damn, being an idol sounds terrifying knowing that ur information is all over the internet along with ur every move and the fact that ur life is at risk daily. idols rlly have it hard

@hiimnothuman50yearsago65

3 жыл бұрын

It is! Very scary!

@missbabydoll1001

3 жыл бұрын

I know right they only want to entertain others with their talents but stuff like this happens.

@nahhdudewth

3 жыл бұрын

I still want to be a kpop idol idc no one can change my mind

@hiimnothuman50yearsago65

3 жыл бұрын

Were not trying to, you do what you want, at least I won't stop you I will support and hope you do good!

@mrszoldyck8186

3 жыл бұрын

@@nahhdudewth no one asked you lmao

I feel like Sunny deserves more credit for helping rescue Taeyeon

@kalali7448

3 жыл бұрын

Like she Grabbed Taeyon Right away when she knew there is something wrong

@ruthpotato1950

3 жыл бұрын

For sure, and she showed no fear, she was focused on saving her fellow member. Great job, Sunny, we really appreciate you!!!

@ziab1400

3 жыл бұрын

What's really baffling is htf this guy actually thought he would get away with whatever he was trying to do here. Did he truly think he could just grab her mid performance and run past security without people noticing and doing something about it?! Wtf

@MsAsh3070

3 жыл бұрын

I think that her aegyo persona really disarms a lot of people. Sunny's tough as nails. Don't forget, prior to coming to Korea, she was a war refugee. She had some awful experiences as a child and it does come through at times - not just during fireworks and other explosions which she finds traumatising and other members have to cover her ears, but she is very quick to stand up for herself and others and pull the sleeves up and get hard and unpleasant tasks done without complaint.

@yuki97kira

3 жыл бұрын

@@MsAsh3070 some people forgets that some idol may look cute but badass af, especially in a cut throat industry. Even if theyre not physically strong, all of them are for sure mentally strong

I feel like that guy who tried to take an idol off stage should have gotten a harsher punishment. If you are old enough to be in university, than you are old enough to know not to try and kidnap someone off a stage. I feel like they should have at least reached out to his university and had him kicked out of school for that kind of behavior. I'm glad they didn't publicize who it was or press charges, because I feel like that wouldn't help him become a better person (and would probably permanently ruin his life). But I do think he deserved far more than a slap on the wrist. I do question how security let him get that close to the stage, though. All these stories remind me of what happened not too long ago to Wang Yibo (Chinese Idol). Fans stalked him to his hotel, so he started sleeping in a car with his bodyguard nearby instead. Unfortunately, they found him anyway and attacked him in the car while he was trying to sleep.

@ninarances9074

3 жыл бұрын

Wang Yibo had to sleep in a car because of those people?! My God! He can't even get a proper sleep! I also remember that one time his car is getting chased by those people, and he had to roll down his window and shout at them to stop chasing him. This has nothing to do with sasaengs. I was immediately reminded of what Xiao Zhan had to go through. Especially after the AO3 incident😣. He can't even go out without people hating on him and his fans, saying it's his fault for not lecturing his fans. And now AO3 has been shut down in China.

@washedblue

3 жыл бұрын

it's, I think, one of the uglier sides of a culture. every culture is different which is fine but with East Asian, especially Korean culture, it's currently less progressive in its treatment of women. and if you're an idol, you're not taken very seriously or treated with much respect outside of the entertainer bubble, and even then.. before people come for me for being racist, I'm Asian myself. I don't have all the knowledge and I don't want to make blanket statements but for the context of this video: schooling and therefore securing a good job is extremely valued (highly competitive in Korea and Japan) so it's unfortunately not surprising that at the time this happened, they let a grown man off because he "deserves a future," meanwhile Taeyeon for all we know was highly affected. the debacle showed that little to no repercussions will come of acts like this. they downplayed it by saying he's just a regular guy. the interviewee said he "showed his love in a different way" and hopes he'll put his fanaticism in a brighter direction, which tells me the obvious: companies don't care about their employees as long as they keep clients happy, even if the "clients" are terrible. here, that means compliance and allowing and sometimes even encouraging this type of behaviour. if it's punished or stricter laws are put in place, that's less money, bad press, and loss of potential fans down the grapevine. intense fan culture is the root basis for K-pop and these companies know this and want it, but that comes at a cost that's collateral in their eyes or a hazard of the job to be swept under the rug. the only reason some are finally publicly standing up for the groups they manage is because it looks good in a socially-conscious time and it being such a rarity for charges or boundaries to be put forth by companies. security is still pretty crap across the board, too, so it's clearly performative in many cases. K-pop was partially created as a form of soft power for Korea and its GDP. and it worked. it's a good formula until it's not. idols are meant to be just that - idolized, and so you won't see the 'real them' or much of it which creates a big problem not only with fans blindly defending them and creating impossible standards for the idols and fans, but with people thinking they know them in a parasocial manner or wanting to know them personally at whatever cost. since they're idols, they can't really show their human side and express complexities, defend themselves, tell people to f off, establish clear boundaries, or be rude when necessary because of expectations and reputation. the times they've spoken up, it brings a mountain of shame from defensive fans feeling betrayed and non-fans telling them to suck it up; idols' statements/requests are also always worded so carefully and nicely because they predict backlash that it doesn't deliver the impact needed. fansites have cameras on them at all times so even when they're off the job, they're still on it. that not only means they're filmed much of their day but that some fansites (not all) consort with sasaengs and gossip/word spreads fast if you piss any of them off. this obviously brings a multitude of problems. similarly, some groups make most of their money by ginormous bulk-buys and gifts/donations which means they're at the mercy of these "fans" in order to keep their group and/or company going. these fans then feel entitled to their idols or think that they should feel no shame in wanting them on strings because of this. it's all so messy and unfortunate tbh. there's small improvements happening but things need to change. sorry for the essay lol

@iskara012

3 жыл бұрын

@@ninarances9074 I still feel bad for what Xiao Zhan has to go through. Sometimes, fans forget their limits and their idol's feelings. I also dislike people who hate on an certain celebrity,like, if you don't like a certain person then don't pay attention. Idk why people go out of thier line just to hate someone. XZ is just stuck in a situation where he can't do anything. I feel so bad for him😔

@ninarances9074

3 жыл бұрын

@@iskara012 I know! I agree with what he said, though, that celebs and fans are equal. No one is superior. He's right! Celebs are still humans who have talents that inspire others! But they're not gods or goddesses who you should worship!I really hope he's doing ok and being healthy now😔.

@nahhdudewth

3 жыл бұрын

He pretended to be a staff so he could get back there and all security thought he was a staff so thats how

No true fan would even think of invading a celebrity's privacy. I refuse to refer to sasaengs as fans.

@_k.e.n.i.s.a_9309

3 жыл бұрын

They are just way to obsessed to know what there doing

@929er13

3 жыл бұрын

@@_k.e.n.i.s.a_9309 they know what they're doing full well and that's what's scarier

@yyg4632

2 жыл бұрын

yep when you knowingly hurt someone you dont rlly care about them you care about yourself

i think companies should be way more stricter on penalizing obsessive fans, the last story is absolutely heartbreaking it's a real life horror movie :(

@transranpo

3 жыл бұрын

caguai to die it's even more chilling to know that that wasn't even a fan, but their producer

@KimchiYeo

2 жыл бұрын

in every western country they would be dealt with but sadly in asia it isn'tlike this,the management thinks too much about the sasaeng who have a life but not about the idols who are affected by their actions.

@ms.chuisin7727

Жыл бұрын

@@KimchiYeo The media and public often turned it around and try to make those who take action as the villain by using the fact that they're rich(most common excuse). The best example is IU, when she took action and sue the public expect her to withdraw and started to criticize her(including the person she sued)when she didn't. Not many could handle the stress but IU is an exception, she announced that she will donate everything she got from it and she believes people should be punished for what they do and it's not her problem if the person who decided to do bad things were punished, it's their own fault.

@akiko7298

6 ай бұрын

and three years after your comment, I still agree with it because fans have just gotten worse with how insane they are!

He tried to kidnap her and the agency just let him off like that?? wtf EDIT: It's mostly the agencies that are at fault. They treat sasaengs like real fans, not obsessive criminals. And korea has no anti stalking laws, really? -_-

@caramelraspberry8378

3 жыл бұрын

No anti stalking laws is a bit of an exaggeration, I think. What she probably meant was that these laws had to be tightened and broadened. Sadly, many sasaengs also spend large amounts of money on their idols, hence the motive for the company to tuen a blind eye. Very unfortunate

@rebekahmikaelson1198

3 жыл бұрын

@@caramelraspberry8378 true. companies care more for the money than their idols, thats sad

@yeriberri3757

3 жыл бұрын

I think the companies do this out of greed, they want to keep them as fans no matter what so they don’t punish the sasaengs to keep them from leaving the fandom. More fans equals more money it’s truly disgusting. This just my theory, it might be false but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true.

@rebekahmikaelson1198

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeriberri3757 yeah, and if you think about it, the companies lowkey encourage these sasaengs too. the whole "yeah, we love our fans so much, we'll always be there for them. they're our girlfriends uwu" thing doesnt help. it feeds into the delusions of those stalkers and attracts more people like them to the group

@akiko7298

6 ай бұрын

Legit seen stalker fans get off with basically nothing more than a "no no that is naughty" when caught stalking idols on their day off overseas. But we also knew in the fandom that those fans spend a LOT of money, like they spend it like money grows on trees. I figure they won't ever get in trouble until a manager catches them trying to get in the dorm or something.

The kidnapping one with the producer is absolutely chilling!!! Those poor girls

one thing i've noticed is that a lot of Koreans bash international fans for being really involved in 'scandals' or having unnecessary opinions but they don't bash sasaengs who literally invade peoples lives and are a threat to them. edit: also I'm not generalising them as a whole, I'm speaking of my personal experience and my experience ONLY if you have had similar experiences or just want to out your opinion please do respond :))

@winwinner6674

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, a lot of korean kfans talk shit about us ifans and think we are dumb, but they don't realise how problematic they are, especially when they think idols are their property and they can't marry someone or when the foreign members are talking in english on vlives and insta lives and they're telling them to switch to korean.👀

@kalali7448

3 жыл бұрын

I lot of Kfans and Knetz are close minded AF

@lv3r742

3 жыл бұрын

@@barritybee that is also true, as an ifan I get so annoyed by them fr.

@purpleeyebrows19

3 жыл бұрын

I think ifans don't understand just how toxic they can be. They constantly act holier than thou as if they don't do some of the shit knetz do. Knetz can be very toxic but ifans aren't that much better imo

@yappycircus

3 жыл бұрын

@woo!ah!zone! i mean kpop companies are the ones expanding and coming to the west and spreading kpop over there. Its expected for international fans to get into kpop. Its all about money afterall

I’d hate to be BTS in that prank. I mean, what. But Suga looked kinda too chill during it. He looked like “my time has come, so whatever”.

@sadisticgirl_

3 жыл бұрын

well, he's a genius so maybe he figured out it was fake 😂

@dagikiri649

3 жыл бұрын

I felt sorry for them when i first saw it but i was laughing so hard that i felt even sorry specially j-hope's part

@beingamultifanisnotacrime2508

3 жыл бұрын

if you haven’t watched the full clip, Yoongi saw the camera and decided to tag along

@sadisticgirl_

3 жыл бұрын

@@beingamultifanisnotacrime2508 lol, that's so like him 😅 where can I watch the full clip?

@beingamultifanisnotacrime2508

3 жыл бұрын

JK ikr 😂 but it didn’t highlighted the part that Yoongi saw it though but he was already pretty chill the next seconds. i don’t have the link ☹️ but if you want to watch it in yt, just search “bts kidnapped prank” but if you’ll watch it in vlive, it’s bangtan bomb ep. 77 i think. sorry i really can’t remember, i’ll try to look ☺️

I had the chance to interview an ex sasaeng. I don’t remember much because I deactivated my Twitter(which had everything), but I still have this quote written down in my google docs. “I know there are a lot of people that hate me for who I was but trust me there’s nobody that hates me for it as much as myself” I’m gonna be honest, I started crying halfway through the interview because it’s sad. I remember her saying that before she became a sasaeng, she thought of sasaengs as bad people. When she was a sasaeng, she saw them as potential friends. Now, after she quit, she views them as lost souls. She had said that most of the sasaengs she met had mental health problems and used being a sasaeng as a way to escape from their problems. I think sasaengs are bad people, yes, but I also think that they just need some help. She also advised to not expose sasaengs to large amounts of people as it will just create more sasaengs. This can also be said with sh/ed accounts as well. I wish everyone were to be happy and healthy.

@prokshhh

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@nallyaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

that's so sad. i'm glad that she left that awful lifestyle though.

@yyg4632

2 жыл бұрын

agreed, i think we become bad people when we do bad actions. We're all doing the best with what we have, so people who live like that must not have much.

@akiko7298

6 ай бұрын

Having seen several people turn into sasaengs, it is sad to watch them. The ones I knew weren't to the super creepy weird stage but they did do things like: make major life decisions based around the idol, decide what neighborhood to live based off of where the idol lived at the time (I guess hoping they could run into them at the convenience store??? Idk), stalking on personal days, getting a stuffed animal doll that looked like the idol and taking it around Seoul on "dates", endangering their personal health to wait outside in negative temps for hours just to be first in line to meet the idol, stalking (in person and online) other fans to make sure they weren't "higher" than themselves...I still think the sasaengs are bad people in a manner of speaking but they are also incredibly lost and its just sad how far they've gone with the delusions in their minds.

I just Don't understand Big hit in that situation. Like they were handed A script in which it was stated that somebody will kidnapp their group. And they were like "yeah that's Good idea,lets do it". What lol

@boostedboosted3088

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao they would have got cursed out by me

@Sasha-gl4ip

3 жыл бұрын

They also put a stereotype on black men like damn🤦🏾‍♀️

@staycgirlsitsgoingdown8947

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sasha-gl4ip exactly

@slayer-dj3dc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sasha-gl4ip not rly

@ilikeyourcutg5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sasha-gl4ip Once again, stop making things about race

About the BTS kidnapping thing, it makes me how they used black people instead of other races.

@Sasha-gl4ip

3 жыл бұрын

Cause at that time in society black ppl were feared by other races especially because they have a more athletic build.

@jkv5332

3 жыл бұрын

But weren't those people their hip-hop teachers? Or am i wrong?

@Sasha-gl4ip

3 жыл бұрын

@@jkv5332oh they were but in the beginning they had them as the kidnappers who were very aggressive and intimidating towards them

@Lemieux_channel

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they were only black because they were revealed later to be their hip hop and rap trainers throughout the show, and hip hop culture is primarily black because that is the race from which it originated. So their main mission was not just to kidnap them, but to teach them later

@someforiegner30

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sasha-gl4ip that isn’t an excuse to portray one race as such aggressive people. Also even now people still think like this. Even the smallest things like the beginning of that show is very influential especially since bts were most likely unfamiliar with African Americans considering Korea isn’t exactly the first place you would think of them inhabiting. I understand why they were involved with the show but they easily could have had a different way of introducing the men. Then they wouldn’t have risked traumatizing the boys or showing African Americans in that way.

It's so wrong and possibly dangerous to portray such abuse as a "prank". People will watch and maybe try for themselves bc it was portrayed as funny on TV.

ugh I hate when women cant live their lives with out anything happening.

@iloveu1579

3 жыл бұрын

ugh I hate when people act like women are the only ones at risk. im a female but im so tired of people acting like its only men who are stalkers and only women who are attacked yes, it does happen but women can stalk and men can be victims. sure, it's less heard of because the media are fairly sexist but it still happens.

@iloveu1579

3 жыл бұрын

@berry yuqi im not pretending this issue doesn't exist, I'm pointing out how sexist this is. I've seen as many cases of men being assaulted, stalked, raped, etc as I have of women. this is downplaying these situations, not reminding us of how bad it is. people need to open their eyes up to the actual problem instead of just whining "oh poor women men are so evil boohoo" to any women or men that have been a victim to this, im sorry and my heart goes out to you, I hope you're better now

@dancerjelena9641

3 жыл бұрын

@@iloveu1579 she didn't say anything about men. She didn't say that it doesn't happen to men. It does. But don't say "oh, but this happens to men too" when someone's talking about how horrible it is when something happens to women. When you only bring up men's issues when someone's talking about women's issues, that's kinda weird. Sure, you can talk about men's issues, what they go through, but don't only mention that when someone's talking about what a woman when through. Let me put it this way: if a girl talks about something very upsetting that happened to her, and someone says "yeah, okay, but that doesn't only happen to women", that's disrespectful, because a girl is talking about their experience. It's just disrespectful.

@iloveu1579

3 жыл бұрын

@@dancerjelena9641 im not trying to say that. i accept that i worded it very wrongly what im trying to say is that yes, it happens to women but people victimize women a lot and make men the enemy. women are being sexually assaulted daily, that's a fact and its an absolutely abhorrent one, nobody should go through that, but people act like only men can be the criminals and treat men like they can't have emotions. as soon as a woman comes out about her sexual assault story there's so much support from other people (which is the morally right thing to do) but when a man comes out about it they're usually attacked by the majority. im not trying to say women can't be attacked and im not trying to make it seem like men are the only victims but i dont want people to continue saying stuff like this which can make others doubt themselves.

@dancerjelena9641

3 жыл бұрын

@@iloveu1579 she just said "ugh i hate it when women can't live their life without anything happening". And it's true, really. She didn't say anything wrong. She said something about women, not about men. Her comment had nothing to do with men. But yes, I understand what you mean.

This is why when fans are all over a group I Stan and if it like somewhere in public I just sit on a tree and watch from fair since I have panic attacks when I’m in a big crowd and sorry if this sounds weird of me climbing a tree and watching from far

@jayzy8065

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it's only me doing that

@choiyeonjun8071

3 жыл бұрын

I would fight a person then climva tree with you

@from1__107

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayzy8065 you’re not alone

@from1__107

3 жыл бұрын

@@choiyeonjun8071 climbing a tree gang 👍🏻

@choiyeonjun8071

3 жыл бұрын

@@from1__107 yes😎

Wonder how security methods have been implemented or changed to cope. We all can guess that These stalkers will only upgrade their tactics or be more brutal in finding a way to get to their chosen artist

Jungkook was like 16 or smth when american hustle life happened right? The boys are prolly still traumatized to this day even tho they joke about it on bts run

@jackbryan5075

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh, move on

Sometimes I grateful I have a normal life even though I don’t live in luxury like some idols

@shashachuu

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly even as a non idol/celebrity you can get stalked and harassed.. It happened to me for three years by my own best friend.. Be careful of people and who you surround yourself with, that's the advice i'd give.

@sadisticgirl_

3 жыл бұрын

@@shashachuu whoa why did he/she harassed you?

I really hated how they made BTS think they were getting kidnapped...this scared me tbh, and not to seem like I'm pulling the race card...but why were they all black men...ive always wondered that. All these stories are scary and the fact that these people are risking their life to make and produce music for their fans is absolutely insane. All idols have my respect whether i stan them or not, their lives are at risk because they're doing this job.

@youngajummah

2 жыл бұрын

I stopped watching after the first episode. I love BTS but thay scene pissed me off. The fact that they used black men was on purpose and you can't change my mind on that. Way to continue pushing stereotypes, ugh 😒

@June.Pandora

2 жыл бұрын

@@youngajummah RIGHT!!! Like come on now dude

and this is why I don't want to be a singer or an artist, because of stories like these. people are a bit deranged when it comes down to pretty much, this kinda stuff. I'd never harm or put anyone I love in danger, musically and or professionally.

You got me pretty worried for REDSQUARE xd

@---ew9nx

3 жыл бұрын

Sameee

@franzzee6278

3 жыл бұрын

why?

@---ew9nx

3 жыл бұрын

@@franzzee6278 the girl group in the thumbnail is RedSquare, the concept of their debut song is that they won't show their faces... We were worried because we thought they were kidnapped or something

@franzzee6278

3 жыл бұрын

@@---ew9nx ah i just realized that it was redsquare's intro in the thumbnail, wow, im happy that there more and more people recognizing redsquare! :))

@newchannel7523

3 жыл бұрын

I was worried too

7:57 Oh yeah! I forgot VIXX got kidnapped once! It made me think, though: why didn't the president just told the manager that he wanted the group to have a private meet and greet with his daughter? But then again, the manager might tell him they can't because of schedule.

@lalalablackjackies5156

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe somehow she managed to do it secretly without her father knowing, most likely the people that helped her did it because she was the president's daughter

@ninarances9074

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalalablackjackies5156 yeah, that makes sense.

@afra.1658

3 жыл бұрын

i’m from Kazakhstan, and the president’s daughter is like 50💀 so, yeah, it must be some random rich man’s daughter or smth

@Staylor1

3 жыл бұрын

@@afra.1658 they literally said the president of some company in the video. They’re just paraphrase for commenting purposes

About this thing , I think Fantagio Music is such a good company . Like they sue sasaengs left and right and even said that they will not take this types of cases lightly as it hurt their idols physically and mentally . They also added that it caused damage to their idol's reputation and caused fans problem .

When I heard about VIXX getting kidnapped I almost passed out since I was so shocked and scared

Being a kpop idol or just an idol for instance it's scary

Disclaimer: I am not talking about every fan. I am well aware that every fan is different and there are many sane fans who know their boundaries/limitations when it comes to respecting their idols. However, I just wanted to roughly summarise how the general kpop fan culture looks like, when it comes to the sasaengs and delusion fans, in general and how every fan acts a certain way when they first enter kpop. Please don't take this personally. It is not meant to offend anyone except for the sasaengs maybe because I could care less about those people. Okay now here goes- The sad thing is the kpop industry thrives on the whole "idols are products for fans" analogy, with the way they are trained, produced (musically), on how they have to act. Of course, I am aware that the idols are not at fault and how they behave is also what they sincerely feel at times. However, as rookies, they have to first garner attention and how that attention gets garnered is when the members or soloists show themselves to be available for the fans, if you know what I mean. It could be through words or through actions but the more they act a certain way as rookies, the more support they get. It's not just the idols that are taught and conditioned to act a certain way while singing, during variety, with fans but even the fans are conditioned to consider these idols as their own, even though that shouldn't be the case. Hence we have dating bans in the first place and how many fansites shut down when their favourite idols get married or start dating. There are types of fans that just talk about their fantasies with their idols through comments, fanfics, etc and that is mostly minor. It is mostly done in every pop culture fandom and not just in kpop. However, people keep it to their private spaces unless some of them go out of control and it reaches their idols/celebrities themselves (for example, how 1D got to know their members being shipped, fanfics being written and what not). Now that isn't a kpop idol group but that case is actually quite relatable to the kpop idols. One cannot say none of the kpop idols know about their own fanfics. It is usually harmless to the idols and with age, fans grow and get out of that zone or explore wider and rich topics. The other types are those that end up stalking and hurting the idols, for their love. And I think every kpop fan must have heard about the numerous sasaeng cases happening from 1st generation idol days. In this comment, I think I have simplified and summarised stuff a lot but of course, the kpop industry and fan culture isn't limited to what I have said. Yes, bad apples would exist in every entertainment/media/etc fandoms and it isn't just limited to kpop. However, the extreme lengths that some of these bad apples go to, isn't something you always hear for various other industries slot and that's because, the kpop industry works much more differently than others. I think for a fan to realise that "this oppa/unnie/noona/hyung - is not mine" is tough because of the blinding glimmer of the kpop content. Only with time and mistakes, people can see where their boundaries are but sadly, that ain't gonna happen quickly. There is more to this then what I have just written but I hope, I managed to make some people ponder on this topic.

companies need to start treating sasaengs as sasaengs and not just “committed fans” they need to start protecting their idols better it’s their job

@anaasacados

2 жыл бұрын

hey unrelated but who's the anime girl in your pfp?

What's up, Midnight Theories! I'm Ryan Little. It's really cool to hear my music in your video. Thanks!

@cassiopeia2829

3 жыл бұрын

Wow beautiful

@cassiopeia2829

3 жыл бұрын

😇

@pastelhotmess9299

3 жыл бұрын

oooo shoutout!

Yeah with the Bts one I didn't really like and like you said it was due to the fact that they were kinda putting a negative light on black men, As a black kpop stan I felt a bit uncomfortable before when I watched it, But overall I feel bad for these idols that had to go through this doesn't matter if it was a prank or not it's just not cool

I actually thought you were talking about Redsquare and I got scared 😭

i really wish we knew who was in the last one, it's horrible that their own producer would do that

The "pranks" about someones phobia is literally the most monstrous thing you could do. Even if it seems dumb to you , some phobias have HEAVY damage .I am a very anxious person with tourettes which means my brain obsseses over things very easilee and when exposed to them I feel distressed ans I want to dissapear .Even if soemone dosent have that, the feeling of bei g exposed to something that makes you feel lost and panic is AWFUL .So even if its lighthearted .Dont do those things

@tetecole3448

3 жыл бұрын

When I read your comment, I was reminded of NCT Hendery and his phobia of frogs

Other army's are were like joking and laughing on the kidnapped prank last 2014, do you think it's funny? Being kidnapped by unknown is not serious and funny at all yet you just laughed? What a pathetic u are, imagine you are getting kidnapped by unknown then u regret of what you done? Sorry for my bad english💀

@ice-choco-Icecream

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao yes it is fucked up, but if you know thats a show and that you're supposed to laugh you will just to 'feel' that you're accomplishing the goal

@ispeakforthe12yrolds76

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't funny at all. Plus the BTS members must associate being kidnapped and in danger with big, black men. As a black ARMY, I'm upset that they must think all black people are like this. It's not true.

@chaengrang6560

3 жыл бұрын

@@ice-choco-Icecream smh it's funny and smh it's not-

@chaengrang6560

3 жыл бұрын

@@r1bsatsy0779 🙂

@chaengrang6560

3 жыл бұрын

@@ispeakforthe12yrolds76 im not hating on the black mens, im saying that their kidnapped prank doing before it's not okay but it's lowkey funny at the same time

wait so nobody knows which rookie girl group was kidnapped? but if they had already debuted under a company and promoted and went on shows and stuff then wouldnt their name be public? or how did they cover it up?

@milkduds9148

3 жыл бұрын

Charges were never filed and the group didn't want to be public about their trauma. It also seems to have been a first gen group, so it makes sense for it to have slipped under the radar since the industry was still in its early days

@junmyeonsdeobi

3 жыл бұрын

@@milkduds9148 ahh okay, thank you!

With Sasaseng sometimes there is an underlying Mental Illness like Anxiety or Depression and this obsessive devotion is a way to keep those feelings at bay. Other times it's not so much that the person is a Sasaeng becuese of some kind of obsessive devotion it becomes a way to make money. As some Sasaeng become what amounts to Information Brokers for other Sasaeng selling Idol's personal information for money online. The scarier ones more than the ones who attempt kidnapping are the ones who have been able to get into the Entertainment Industry in some capacity.

I'll be watching this later since I currently have school. I love your videos!

Alternate title: 'Try not to get mad/upset' Me: failed

It sucks knowing If you achieve your dream of being a music artists through being a kpop Idol and be a success then you have this Saesengs people to deal with.

'Can't wait for the next episode of this series.

I legit thought you were going to talk about Red Square, click baited but I'm happy they're ok 👍

Hey this sounds really nitpicky (because it is) but I would appreciate that you credit where you got the thumbnail image from, it's from a really underground rookie group called redsquare and I think that if a person was interested in the group in the image they wouldn't know where to find them as you didn't link the M/V where it was from.

@wr346

3 жыл бұрын

was just trying to find out where it was from! thank you

I don't usually comment often but your videos are so well put together ahh I love them and they're always so interesting. Keep it up queen ;-;

your videos are always so good! thanks for making great content

What does it take for creepers to be punished harshly? I wonder if some people feel like they can get away with these things by saying they're young, in college, or promising to "reflect."

knetizens said that 2 out of 3 girls that in rookie girlgroup debuted in fanatics.

@light_bit

3 жыл бұрын

Which one ? The last story one ?

@raveniee2165

3 жыл бұрын

@@light_bit yes

@light_bit

3 жыл бұрын

@@raveniee2165 really ? Where you read that ?

@raveniee2165

3 жыл бұрын

@@light_bit it's just a rumor but many knetizens said that.

@light_bit

3 жыл бұрын

@@raveniee2165 okay thanks

Earlyyyy but don't know what to say other than your videos are always amazing!!

Next can you talk about the sexualization of kpop idols?!

oh my god i just found your channel and i’m obsessed (no pun intended)

Loving it so far

notif squad ayyy

This series is going to be so interesting omg

I LOVE these videos so much

Imagine if the sasaengs were body gaurds of idols

I remember when Jin was confused during a prank and he started applauding. My heart.

As a fan of VIXX when N first revealed that story about the kidnapping I got really upset. These stupid ass people don’t even know how this can emotionally/mentally affect them. Idols are human too. I feel so bad for what these idols have to deal with on day to day basis.

Early gang where y'all guys at

Poor kids. How terrifying. I’m not a fan of pranks in general. But some of these are especially terrible. These kids work so hard and give up so much for these opportunities. And it’s heartbreaking to learn of them being terrorized in these ways. Certainly not fun or lighthearted.

Notif Squad uwu uwu lezzgoooo

4:15 Sm: "go to your room and think about what you've done!" But in all serious i really do believe he should of gotten a harsher punishment instead of just a slap on the wrist.

these are the unwanted consequences of being an idol

Holy shit he had to kiss her, that’s actually really traumatizing.

Vixx’s story sound like a whole anime

the heo young saeng music video you featured in this video is so good and brave and i wish more idols would do concepts like that to call out these sasaeng fans with art

I remember asking a friend why they didnt arrest the sasaengs of NCT that moved to the building where ct lives and they told me that the sasaengs are underage and they leave when they are adults so SM can't do anything

i feel so bad for them this is horrible

We call that crazy and put those people in jail or mental facilities. Allowing stuff like that to happen without some penalties only encourages more of that behavior. Most of the people involved in your vid would've gone to jail for attempted and actual kidnapping. Good vid, I didnt realize that was the level of saesangs.🤯

The fact that clips from the movie White: melody of a curse was used here had me 💖

That last story is FREAKY!!!

The last one so scary.. what group is that??

I love your voice smmmm

Damn this is a whole Shane Dawson Kinda video !! I hope you reach way more recognition!!!

I'm scared because there's Red Square on thumbnail and there's kidnaping in thumbnail too

they should do a law against these psychopaths

the last one..damn that's so creepy. these girls must be heavenly traumatized..

I was so confused watching the first ep of American Hustle life. I get that they wanted the boys to be in a serious mindset but scaring the shit out of them by 'kidnapping' them was really not the way to go. You could see just how scared the boys were and, even though they actually handled the situation pretty well, they shouldn't of had to go through that (and no one should). even though I really loved the show and really loved watching one of the moments that really set the boys up for stardom, there was so much little things that were just wrong but were dismissed- The fake kidnapping being one of them (and let's not get started on the discrimination of certain members by certain people because we'd be here all day). Just because it's supposed to be a show where the boys were supposed to learn about how to deal with the harsher world and how to go about being successful (in a nutshell), doesn't mean they should of let the boys go through what could of been a scarring and mortifying experience. Thank you for listening to my tedtalk.

omg. using footage from i saw the devil gave me serious flashbacks to everything from that movie... 0_0

The taeyeon clip is why I love sunny

Korea have a bs law about stalkers and obsessed people like this...I mean I watch in a video once that in Korea there are taxis you can rent that will follow your favorites and you can even choose how fast you want the driver to go🤷🤷

@maddie9655

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and to be honest stalker laws are shitty in almost every single countries.

The pranks were horrible like you said they should be funny and light hearted BTS got embarrassed keep in mind they were still really young. And it was racist for black men as they showed them as bad people which black people are not and I personally think that If that guy was old enough to be in university then he should know its not okay to kidnap or harass ANYONE especially idols or actors who already go through so much and if you dont mind can you please tell me the name of the girl group who got abused allegedly

@acupofjin9469

3 жыл бұрын

It's been years and i'm still trying to find out what group it was :( I heard someone say the group is Kiss&Cry but it's not confirmed

Can anyone tell me the context of the Red Velvet clip 0:44 - 0:48 ?

@ice-choco-Icecream

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, tried looking up Power Up stage's but couldn't find a thing

@meongjaez

3 жыл бұрын

That’s from their redmare concert!

@yerinbaekscandlelight

3 жыл бұрын

I think they were acting. Don't worry, nothing bad happened.

@stephaniehall2812

3 жыл бұрын

Its at the beginning of their redmare concert. Look up Red Velvet Redmare in Seoul. You can watch a recording of it.

That title reminded me of fear files

Seen Redsquare and clicked immediately

You'd think idols would have a solid team of bodyguards with them wherever they go :/

even tho this stuff happens I still want to be a kpop idol

okay excellent video but i was having flashbacks from the clip of 'i saw the devil'

0:27-0:32 omg my ults 😔🤚

My heart stopped when you mentioned N and Vixx in another country… can you imagine what could have happened had the girl wanted more than just a private meet and greet??? So scary 🥺🥺

Those pranks were horrible. Someone deserves to get punched in the face.

Just imagine being an idol and having fans do his to me that would be really scary

The last one is the most terrifying one

I'm surprised no one has found out who that girl group was that got kidnapped. It sounded like an extremely serious case that should've had charges pressed

The only thing that would be hard when you're filing for stalking cases are the proofs and who the sasengs are. Since, you're going against a complete stranger, we don't know when they are approaching. Good thing, some idols have security but how about the ones from small companies?

No but the last story omggggg I hope they are fine now and/or that they get help, it must have been so traumatizing...

pretty confident that girl group was peernine

fhhdjdjd AT FIRST I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT RED SQUARE BUT then realized you used them as a placeholder bcuz of blindfolds

I feel like most sassengs have some illnesses which they want to escape from. They resort to methods like these so that they could distract themselves from the pain. They are lost without a direction. Although I'm not saying that being a sasseng is not wrong, it definitely is. When they love the idols, they used the wrong way to show it. Loving someone is right but stalking them, even going to the extent of kidnapping them is just wrong. I hope that they seek proper help and when they quit, they would not hate themselves for the problem s they have caused

The last story....those poor girls...

How to free yourself from kidnapper 2020 : you just need to say you have corona and you're free 😌👍

EXO have the most scary saesang

Those kidnapping pranks are so fucking cruel. I feel like it would almost be more traumatizing to find out it was fake, like knowing people you work with and trust are willing to cause you major distress just so people can laugh at it on some TV show. So humiliating.