If 10 years ago you told me that a Halo show, LOTR show, and Obi-Wan Kenobi show would happen in the same year, I would have been beyond excited. Now I am only underwhelmed and angry. What a time to be alive.

@jamescarr8196

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if they were good lol. 2022 would’ve been fucking AWESOMEEEE

@gunnarhjalmarson8930

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself and I’m a huge fan of all three genres

@Dime_time333

Жыл бұрын

I wanna harm these bots account users.

@timnor4803

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@dopekidrepublic

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I couldn't put this into words but you did.

Having so many female warriors makes it seem common, which totally negates the incredible thing Eowyn did, and why it was so unexpected.

@spacegirl226

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could like this comment more than once!

@wwe12153

Жыл бұрын

This is a good point, they are literally destroying the core of the world

@jashloseher578

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@abeartheycallFozzy

Жыл бұрын

And her character wasnt a super skilled fighter. She was terrified at the start of the battle and the Witch King was toying with her before Merry distracted him. Makes what she did even more admirable and brave. And realistic, for a fantasy story.

@basilmcdonnell9807

Жыл бұрын

Also, as Critical Drinker implies, pretty damn unlikely. Medieval swords are too heavy for most females to lift. It's absurd. There's a reason women didn't take a place in the shield line at the Battle of Hastings. They would have all died, and the men around them too.

"It has only the power to destroy" - Frodo Baggins. In reference to the ring, but he could've been talking about Holloywood, Amazon, or modern societal mindsets and he'd still be correct

@theartemisgland

Жыл бұрын

You dont get it do you? The one ring to rule them all has the power to destroy is an allegory for centralised control that only destroys. In this case the centralised wealth of a production multinational corporation that ruins the very source of its criticism.

@kavky

Жыл бұрын

@@theartemisgland Imma be real honest with you chief, any criticism of corporate capitalism made by Marxists is as soulless and empty as the corporations you criticize.

@r.henryjr.1533

Жыл бұрын

If Mr. Marx here is being serious, I would like to point out that Tolkien hated allegory so that wouldn't make any sense, if it's not a joke of course. As for you Kav, you're not even saying anything, that's just ad hominem. Overall I give this reply chain a 6/10, too much water.

@psychokinrazalon

Жыл бұрын

@@kavky Doesn’t make it wrong, though.

@kavky

Жыл бұрын

@@psychokinrazalon It does though.

I always loved the idea of Galadriel being such a powerful, borderline ethereal being that her presence alone was intimidating beyond belief. So of course this translates 1:1 into "SHE DOES A FLIP AND HITS PPL WITH SWORD" badass gymnastics because subtlety is dead and we aren't allowed to have anything remotely intelligent in the year of our lord Anno Domini 2022

The fact that all modern remakes hate their original characters is as mind boggling as it is frustrating. RIP all former great fiction franchises.

@TrangleC

Жыл бұрын

Well, the "problem" is that all the old, good stuff was written by usually conservative white people. It is quite simple and easy to understand, actually. You just need a base line of cynicism to accept it as what it is. It is just a fact that black people haven't produced much of value, substance or staying power in the last 100 000 years or so and now they are jealous and need to rewrite and blackwash everything to pander to their inferiority complex.

@PunishedlLongshanks

Жыл бұрын

It would be mind-boggling were it not for the fact that modern Western media is quite explicit about hating Europeans - especially men - and almost every aspect of our past culture. Big sigh.

@Yesica1993

Жыл бұрын

It's intentional. They are destroying the entire culture. We are in a revolution and most people don't even seem to be aware of it.

@samr8603

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it is as clear as crystal if you understand Narcissism. They cannot enjoy or understand what others love. So they have to take control and then change it to their beliefs. Leaving behind the husk.

@Yarblocosifilitico

Жыл бұрын

it's not mind boggling; there's a cultural war going on

LOTR is the whole reason why I'm even into the fantasy genre to begin with. Seeing these uncreative vampires basically pissing on Tolkien's grave makes me so angry. The fact that they waited until his son died so that they could make this """"show""""", is genuinely disgusting. Well at least I can't wait for my favorite reviewers to tear it apart. I await the upcoming Unbridled Rage episode.

@eol6632

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call them vampires.... vampires hunt and work for there meal.....I'd say leeches...they lazily attached to it's victim and slowly drain everything it can out of it Yeah leeches... seems appropriate

@matthewronson5218

Жыл бұрын

Tolkien is singularly responsible for the Fantasy genre being raised to the level of critical acclaim in Literature. Previously, this was akin to a Comedy winning an Oscar for Best Motion Picture. Other notable works from GoT to Wheel of Time are the children and grandchildren of Tolkien's life efforts and work.

@thorshammer7883

Жыл бұрын

The people responsible for this show can be summarized as this: "Be willingly ignorant, do as thou wilt there is no evil in what you do as long as you deem it right. Exalt yourself do not hearken or be humble. Make wisdom and meaning in your own likeness and vision." In short the commandment and narrative luciferians follow. Same philosophy Morgoth and Sauron promoted as they both are like Satan/Lucifer the fallen angel who was once a Cherubim of Eden before he fell. The exalted hurbis and hatred for truth to exalt yourself is terribly evil.

@myselfandeye3884

Жыл бұрын

"Angry" and "disgusted" fking hell. Dramaqueen much? It's a fking show. You either watch it or you don't. I am not watching this pile of sjit. See how easy that is.

@captainjimmy2306

Жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of lotr, but I understand how you are feeling. That’s how I felt about ready player one. Another great fantasy is nevermoor, and join me in the 3-5 year wait between books hahaha

“But as the theme progressed, it came into the heart of Melkor to interweave matters of his own imagining that were not in accord with the theme of Ilúvatar, for he sought therein to increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself.” - The Silmarilion by J.R.R. Tolkien

@jessegrisham

Жыл бұрын

“But as the show progressed, it came into the heart of Amazon to interweave matters of they/their imagining that were not in accord with the theme of Tolkien, for they/them sought therein to decrease the power and glory of the parts assigned to hetero/cis/white males.” - The Sillymarillion by Wokeists

@davida.taylor8444

Жыл бұрын

@@jessegrisham That is so true. Tolkien knew a thing or two about how evil works and we are seeing it play out exactly like this before our eyes.

I love how Galadriel, after she plunges her dagger into the ice cliff and is supposedly hanging from it, visibly relaxes as if she is, oh I don’t know, standing on a platform or something. 😂

@pigeonsil240sx

Жыл бұрын

not to mention holding on with steel gloves her hands would lose grip and slide off

@midgetydeath

2 ай бұрын

I thought something was strange about her body language. Thanks for putting your finger on it for me.

Galadriel was terrifying in LotR. She gave off a genuinely fearsome aura that didn't, in any way, require her to be some "badass" fighter. It's that quiet, vicious sort of thing you'd associate with an ambush predator. Like a taut violin string being strummed- creating beautiful notes but always on the cusp of snapping. The people writing this garbage are, as most of their peers these days, totally incapable of anything remotely approaching subtlety or nuance.

@johnyentes6643

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think subtlety and nuance exist in really any artistic medium these days. Everything is announced with a fanfare and in-your-face presentation because the goal at this point isn’t integrity or thoughtful direction of art, but rather just to be noticed. Our art forms today are a reflection of what society has become/is becoming. If vapid mediocrity is the status quo, it’s because the masses demand it.

@SugerSprinkledFun

Жыл бұрын

Amen !

@ecurb10

Жыл бұрын

"Like a taut violin string being strummed- creating beautiful notes but always on the cusp of snapping" - beautiful! Describes her exactly! And yes, that was power enough for her, without having to be some fighting warrior.

@sbird8675

Жыл бұрын

What drives me crazy is that the whole 'strong female character" thing is actually super sexist. It basically says that if a woman isn't strong in the same way as a man then she's not actually strong. It completely shits on feminine types of strength. Galadrial is powerful in the original Lord of the Rings/Silmarillion because of her mystical abilities- as you put it her "genuinely fearsome aura". Making her yet another punchy, kicky, stabby hero spits on Tolkien's characterization of her and women in general.

@maxxor-overworldhero6730

Жыл бұрын

@@sbird8675 Especially when Gimli was insulted in the Court. Her interjection immediately shut people up. You could almost literally feel the tension, and sure as Hell felt more than just because she was the Lady of Lothlorian.

The fact they fired a Lord of the Rings and Tolkien expert for telling them they are ruining it. Says a lot

@RuneKatashima

Жыл бұрын

Source?

@Reignor99

Жыл бұрын

@@RuneKatashima I googled it. It's about an expert named Tom Shippey. The top google results are mostly articles dispelling rumors about why Tom left the production. So either it's all been blown out of proportion, or Amazon is doing great damage control by putting out articles to dispel the "rumors".

@adamthorntonillustration9281

Жыл бұрын

@@Reignor99 Tom Shippey was featured in many of Peter Jackson's LOTR appendices documentaries. He's also a retired Oxford professor. Make of that what you will, but to me it suggests he's respected in the field and knows his stuff.

@christiancividino455

Жыл бұрын

@@Reignor99 that’s called speculation and not verified information

@Reignor99

Жыл бұрын

@@christiancividino455 Thankyou Captain Obvious

The biggest crime in my mind is that Amazon paid so much money for the rights while they could have paid a fraction of that amount to a top fantasy writer and gotten an entertaining story that would have fit the cast plus great dialogue and characters. Now they just made Rings of the Cringe.

@Tenchi707

Жыл бұрын

Yeah😞

@mrblobby6284

2 ай бұрын

they paid that money to shit on the source material because its all about tearing down european society and culture.

Biggest problem with this show is that they're compressing over 2000 years into less than 200. It would be like having Alexander the Great leading the D-Day landings in Saving Private Ryan.

@RickAucoin

Жыл бұрын

The biggest problem is the unbelievable hubris they have in rewriting anything Tolkien wrote.

@antoinelachapelle3405

Жыл бұрын

That's an incredible mental image, thank you hahaha

Funny how they took one of the most powerful characters Tolkien ever created, one who was practically a living goddess, and made her basically indistinguishable from any other random elven soldier in the sea of bronze that was Thranduil's host in The Hobbit

@nautilaz

Жыл бұрын

Good point. We had nothing bad to say about Galadriel from the movie or the books. She was portrayed in both as an all wise, not to be fucked with character and you respected that. It wasn't an issue her gender or role. Just a strong character.

@annacanova7060

Жыл бұрын

They can't help but be a multidimensional cult of contradiction: feminism is necessary but not femininity, racism is evil but white men bad, culture is important but not whitey's so let's put ourselves in it. They deserve a massive failure, I really hope they do.

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

"Women don't matter unless they are men." -Hollywood, probably

@TrigonAZR

Жыл бұрын

My first thought about this Galadriel impsotor was that she's got no charisma or presence- just like that child in most recent terminator (forgot the title- one in which terminator does drapes)

@waynehewett4017

Жыл бұрын

You have jam everything into a box to reflect today's gender politics and pushing the fucking message down our throats no matter the cost Gone are the days when you went to the cinema to escape reality for a couple of hours With China no longer proping up the studios movies Now you would attacking and pissing off any fans you have left is probably not good for your business?

I find it stunning and brave that Amazon is determined not to let Disney be the only ones to turn beloved franchises into dog shit.

@Badchi

Жыл бұрын

Ahem. Apple with their appalling take on Azimov’s “Foundation” anyone?

@aaronmicalowe

Жыл бұрын

4:07 despite the $bil pumped into it it still looks cheap. Apparently people walking in deep snow now leave no footprints. Amazon got screwed over by it's own contractors. I guess that's what happens when nobody respects how you got your empire.

@kgpspyguy

Жыл бұрын

@E Van ok Fed.

@danhle7999

Жыл бұрын

ya, like they did with The Wheel of time

@manuelper

Жыл бұрын

CBS's Star Trek says hold my beer.

One of the main things that struck and stuck with me when I'd first watched Fellowship back in 2001 was how imposing Galadriel was. She was, to quote another comment, terrifying. On the one hand, on the surface level, she seemed calm and collected. She radiated a kind of stoic permanence. During an interview, British actress Olivia Coleman described Queen Elizabeth II as the dutiful rock of the British people, and I've heard others say similar things, that she's a living symbol of strength and longevity. Cate Blanchett's performance was incredible in how she portrayed a being that, while kind, is not to be messed with. A kind of Goddess that is willing to offer gifts but only to those who acknowledge their place in this world and show their willingness to be useful. It was pure magic. When Galadriel allows herself to be tempted, when she shows herself giving into her own flaws, we see her becoming like the humans who covet power above all things. She frightens herself almost as much as she frightens Frodo. That strength didn't require her to take up arms and the very last thing Galadriel would need to do is prove herself. No. It's you who must prove yourself to yourself in her presence while she looks on, guiding you with her eyes. Galadriel is possibly one of the strongest figures in the whole of the lore. Seeing her youth could have been interesting, but it looks like they are going towards a kind of Elvish Mulan. I was working at Blockbuster when Fellowship was released. Employees were given five free movie rentals each week but the free rental program didn't include new releases, so I had to pay for it. As a nineteen year old Pagan, I'd spent a lot of time researching various mythologies and lore, and so I'd naturally stumbled upon Tolkien. I remembered seeing bits and pieces of the old 1970's cartoon, and the name Gandalf was somewhat familiar, but Fellowship was my first actual and formal introduction. I was so ignorant to it that, when the credits rolled for Fellowship, I fully expected that there was a second part on the disc. I had no idea that it was the first in a trilogy, and let me tell you, I was HOT. Oh, I was damned salty. I enjoyed it so much that I didn't want it to end, and the very idea of having to wait for the next installments enraged me so much that to this day, over twenty years later, I avoid watching a series until it's all been released.

@davitavandervelde6870

Жыл бұрын

So good. Love that last anecdote! The things LotR has done to us for life...

Just watched the first episode and it honestly looks like their main brief was to watch a few Critical Drinker reviews and try to create something that he could comprehensively rip to shreds after a third bottle of whiskey. And they succeeded! I tried to think of a single female part in GoT that wasn't better written and acted than ANY female part in this disaster, and I came up with nothing. The closest was Sansa in the early episodes but then she was supposed to start out as an emotional teenager whereas Galadriel is supposed to be ancient and battle hardened. Apparently Sansa grows up more in a few years than Galadriel does in hundreds. Go away now.

"The rings of power is going to upset Tolkien purists, and that's a good thing." That's the equivalent to saying spitting in the food of your restaurants customers is a good thing. All these article writers and shill tweeters all make the same erroneous assumption, that we're just going to sit there and keep paying for it. If they're not going to silence their critics by going above and beyond in their accuracy and respect of the lore like they do, and thus give them nothing to complain about then why should I even bother giving it a chance. I'm not going to hate watch it. I'm just not going to acknowledge it exists. And you can't watch a show that doesn't exist. I highly recommend everyone else do the same.

@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158

Жыл бұрын

Well said! I'm not a LOTR acolyte, read them when I was a kid and that was it, rites of passage and you grow up...right... This infantalization and arrested development that modern tv and cinema churns out today is why if we're talking modern stuff here so unimaginative and sterile, afraid to say something new or have an original thought because as the Drinker says the message comes first, years ago we would not of cared if Wilfred Owen, Fernando Pessoa, Wittgenstein were all complexed individuals sexually, today they'd push that front and centre as if that defines them...the whole idea that this is more important than what they gave to the world...herein lies the difference and is it any surprise our youth are completely lost and lacking in critical thinking skills.

@joet7136

Жыл бұрын

I will probably watch the first episode trying my best to keep an open mind but my hopes aren't high. I don't like being preached to and from the previews and the producer's comments it already feels lile they're preaching.

@mouselim72

Жыл бұрын

As I had said before, my visions, memories and knowledge of LoTR stops at the books and to a certain degree, the LoTR trilogy by Peter Jackson (he changed some things too)...

@arthurhogarthur4294

Жыл бұрын

This comment proves you know it exists, so the show exists, and you can watch it.

@randomobserver8168

Жыл бұрын

As soon as I hear something is a good thing, or someone asks if we can talk about something, or someone says something is the thing we need now, I tune right out.

Galadrial was so damn powerful she needed no sword or armor. Having her emulate a man demeans her, not empowers her. Blows me away how ridiculous this is. The idea she wasn't already a strong female character shows they had no idea what a strong female is in the first place.

@mitch9237

Жыл бұрын

This is the exact perfect criticism. I'm surprised I haven't heard it before

@luggy9256

Жыл бұрын

Yep, she was one of the most powerful beings in middle earth, the only ones with more power were the wizards and sauron. And I’m not even sure all the wizards were stronger, it depends on their colour, because colour dictates their role, therefore the power needed.

@alphawolves8809

Жыл бұрын

Totally correct.

@dustman96

Жыл бұрын

It seems as if they stripped her of what made her such a powerful and daunting character. I really loved her character in the movies, but when I see her hanging off a cliff with a dagger the whole feeling of her character is lost in an instant. So stupid.

@eyespy3001

Жыл бұрын

“Fake woman with sword make me angry.”

Drinker Reviews are always next level thoughtful.

Love the part in the trailer when Sauron said " I did not hit her! It’s not true! It’s bullshit! I did not hit her! I did not! Oh, hi Elrond" goosebumps everytime.

@davitavandervelde6870

Жыл бұрын

😂 Or where Galadriel said: "I'm gonna do what I wanna do and that's it. What do you think I should do?"

@elzar5987

Жыл бұрын

Love the part where salron walks to the dwaves saying "I need your cloths, your boots and your balrog" Brings me to tears every time

@TheresaMayPM

10 ай бұрын

I preferred the bit where she said 'I yam what I yam', then punched the octopus over the horizon.

@desdicadoric

6 ай бұрын

Ahahaha 😂😂

"It felt only natural to us that an adaptation of Tolkien's work would reflect what the world actually looks like." - Lindsey Weber, E.P. Amazon's LOTR Series, Vanity Fair (Feb. 2022) . Peter Jackson, interview GreenCine (Dec. 2002) - "There are certainly themes Tolkien felt were important. We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. What we were trying to do was to analyse what was important to Tolkien and to try to honour that. In a way, were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves."

@hunkyhaggis2161

Жыл бұрын

Let's check her early life section on wiki.

@fictiontheorizer1991

Жыл бұрын

You should never trust anything that happens at Vanity Fair. Pilgrim's Progress taught me that.

@NitroModelsAndComics

Жыл бұрын

One statement shows reverence, the other was made by an Amazon employee.

@Fe7Ace

Жыл бұрын

Peter Jackson's LotR films will be remembered fondly long after everyone's forgotten this show.

@sianais

Жыл бұрын

That Lindsey woman realises that the world we live in (certain American states, and some western parts of Europe to folks like her) got their ethnic make up via specific historical events, right? Trying to fit that in a fantasy story based in ancient Europe is plain dumb. Where are the Mexicans? The native Americans? The Polynesians? The Filipinos? Why are they not included in this? Why not make the elves clearly Italian, accent and all, for the sake of diversity? Why are these people so mental?

“We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren’t going to any of our own messages or our own themes into these movies in a way, we were trying to make these films for him [the author], not for ourselves.” Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh - 2001

@Wolf-ln1ml

Жыл бұрын

Too bad he still had to throw in his own nonsense, as "subtle" as it may be...

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

another peter jackson fanboy Edit: anyone who has read the Lord of the Rings knows that PJ took extensive liberties with LotR. He didn't just cut things from the books, he added unnecessary bs (Faramir taking Frodo to Osgilliath, Aragorn's fake death, Elves at Helm's Deep), he degraded characters (Frodo, Merry, Pippin, Aragorn, Denethor, Faramir, Gimli, Legolas, Gandalf, Treebeard) and missed the spirit of the books (too much action and no Scouring of the Shire).

@robertdouth8979

Жыл бұрын

@@Wolf-ln1ml It's impossible not to have some, but you have to at least applaud as honest a telling as could have been accomplished given it had to fit into 3 movies cleanly. At least he didn't Hobbit them bitches.

@Rlyeh_The_Dead

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 Better than an Amazon shill :/

@wesp5

Жыл бұрын

That's a complete lie! It's called "Peter Jackson's LOTR" for a reason because he wrote as much of him into it as he dared, ruining a lot of great scenes (Frodo at the ford, Gandalf falling, Rohirim attacking down a slide, Oliphant-AT-AT-copy battle...), characters (Frodo is a weakling, GImli is a comic relief...) and even locations (Golden Hall without a golden roof, Minas Tirith like the Babylon Tower...) while Tolien took years to get these things right and even draw pictures. At least in "The Hobbit" with Radagast having bird poo in his beard and driving a slate everybody should have noticed that the goal never was to stay close to the books, but to make the most money out of it. It's only natural that Amazon would take the next step...

This is literally a cruel joke. Let's consider Galadriel, one of the most powerful characters in this series....and still, people act like the women have no power here. "I am no man" and the subsequent attack means so much to me. Anyway, all of it is underestimated and viewed rather lowly. I wish the best of these desperate beings to be gone. It's totally insane.

@taelorpickel2830

Жыл бұрын

She is most certainly one of the most powerful of the Children of Iluvatar. But she is not in the list of even the ten most powerful characters in the series, unless you speak of strictly Lord of the Rings [Third-age or Second-age], then yes, she would be.

@antoinelachapelle3405

Жыл бұрын

@@taelorpickel2830 okay but even if she's only in the top 100 most powerful of the entire damn world, that's a pretty powerful woman lol, literally millions of people and other intelligent beings live in middle Earth

The Lord of the Rings trilogy cost a total of $281M to produce before its final release date in 2003. Adjusted for inflation, the cost in 2022 would have been approx. $462.78M. This means, that the Extended Editions, at 11.5 hrs in length, cost $40.24M per completed production hour. Amazon spent $60M per 60-minute episode of the "Rings of Power" series, or a 50% larger budget per cph. After watching the first episode of "Rings of Power" last night, and watching The Fellowship of the Ring (Ext. Disk 1) tonight, it's abundantly clear that money isn't everything. Amazon should have spent that extra $20M on talent, writing, research, and hiring people that knew how to work with Tolkien's Middle-Earth. Without the "Lord of the Rings" branding on it, perhaps it could have worked out and been less divisive as a generic fantasy story - but trying to pass this off as a work associated with Tolkien is an insulting travesty. Honestly if this didn't have the Lord of the Rings branding, no one would have cared about it.

Tolkien was a conservative Catholic. He wrote a bedtime story for his child that he turned into a mythology for England to use as a foundation myth, that’s his stated goal

@fomorians

Жыл бұрын

Yep. He also stated he simply enjoyed telling a good story. He wasn't interested in making it allegorical or topical to current events, the exact opposite of what most creators are doing today.

@davedogge2280

Жыл бұрын

Lenny Henry was a mainstream comedian who became an old elf in an Amazon Lord of The Rings series ...

@robertlewis6915

Жыл бұрын

LotR was actually written as an adult fairy tale (he wrote stories for his children, but LotR was not one of them, even if his adult son, Christopher, helped with the writing process by reading the drafts DURING WW2), but otherwise you have that right. Roverandom was a children's story. The Silmarillion's first iterations were written on leave from WW1 in 1917, after his marriage but before he had kids.

@justinnee1572

Жыл бұрын

@@fomorians lmao, the entire LoTR universe is an allegory of the Bible.

@hhoi8225

Жыл бұрын

@@justinnee1572 It is literally not.

Why is Galadriel suddenly looking like an 18 year old Arya Stark roaming around in armor looking for things to kill? At this time she should be around 4,000 years old and is a well established and respected leader. Not a recent high school graduate eager to prove how much of a big girl she is.

@MalleusIudaeorum

Жыл бұрын

MUH WAHMEN STRONK AND BOOTIFUL AND NEED NO MAN 💪 DEAL WITH IT YOU IST AND PHOBE! THE RINGS ARE FEMALE!

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

Because she's a young looking Elf Woman? She doesn't have to look like what you think she would.

@Leathal

Жыл бұрын

Nice cherry-picking, reply guy shill. OP was clearly talking about the overall presentation of Galadriel not meshing at all with her established character of a FOUR THOUSAND YEAR OLD sorceress born outside Middle Earth and the inspiration for Feanor crafting the Silmirils. There should be very little difference between her characterization in LoTR and this new Amazon garbage - if anything, she’d perhaps be more trusting at this point, which is the exact opposite of how the trailer portrays her (arguing with her future son in law like they were peers hahaha)

@Leathal

Жыл бұрын

TLDR: she’s an ancient Elder Stateswoman Sorceress, not frickin teenage Joan of Arc but with more angst and girlbossery

@ShadowSonic2

Жыл бұрын

@@Leathal So you base her entire personality off of her arguing with someone, woe And she's immortal, she can look as young as she wants

Morgoth/Melkor: "It felt only natural to me that an adaptation of Eru Illuvatar's work would reflect on what Arda actually looks like."

Actually, Numenor throne could be passed down to women and it had 3 Queens in its history. Would have had 4, but the last king of numenor was usurper who snatched it away from a woman. Ironically that would be the time period where the series takes place.

@gabibraun2756

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. Thank god, at least one person knows that

"The past is dead. We either move on or die with it." I find that ironic coming from a show that exists solely to milk money out of people based on their nostalgia of the *past*

@skyintatters

Жыл бұрын

Also one of the themes of the books is that the past was not just over and lost but *better* and all we can do at present is decline in general.

@jamesmc04

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the producers think that Kylo Ren is a character in this mythology. If that is what they think they are mistaken.

@thorshammer7883

Жыл бұрын

This is a mindset that can called this: "Be willingly ignorant, do as thou wilt there is no evil in what you do as long as you deem it right. Exalt yourself do not hearken or be humble. Make wisdom and meaning in your own likeness and vision." A doctrine which luciferians would follow and advocate.

@WhoTookPlockrock

Жыл бұрын

@@skyintatters To be fair, that was only so for elves (and dwarves to some extent.) Men and Hobbits were doing pretty well for themselves in the Fourth Age, and Tolkien is explicit that there's a mystery as to what truly becomes of Men's souls when they die, unlike the very real and understood doom of elves.

@waynehewett4017

Жыл бұрын

See movie studios are a business like any other business They produce a product Like buying a toaster from Kmart But alot more expensive Studios expect customers to buy their products Attacking any one that complains or has criticism against their products and calling customers names like rasic trolls Emagine going back to Walmart to return and item for a refunds cos it crap and the Walmart customers service manager abusing ,threatening and calling you names just cos they got butt hurt you saying thier product was crap Can you Emagine the shit show that would happen? You would be calling the cops and lawyer on them This is no different to what the studios and actors are doing to the fans Is not good for business and customers will go elsewhere I think both studios and actors have forgotten that very important point

The first time i saw LOTR i thought Galadriel was a lot more intimidating than Saruman. A mysterious elven sorceress queen who can read minds, predict the future and has tremendous magical powers, and what do they chose to do with it? Turn her into a generic snarky elven warrior in plate armor. Might as well turn Gandalf into a leather wearing spear fighter while they're at it. Ridiculous.

@timmythepinky9137

Жыл бұрын

Nah they'd probably turn him into an ordinary guy who can do "magic tricks". Oh and they'd also turn him gay for no apparent reason

@frankjoseph6071

Жыл бұрын

gandalf aint part of "the message"

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

To make Gandalf truly diverse they would need his nippes to be showing through the suit and for him to have a black boyfriend. Or maybe they will make Gandalf the black boyfriend.

@JohnDoe-kg6gy

Жыл бұрын

da lordz of da kangz ! das rite !

@alecheskin9752

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, why not put Gandalf into some leather? Heck you'd probably get Ian McKellen back to play him even faster! /s

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made” - JRR Tolkien

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

false quote commonly used by fake fans. Tolkien never said or wrote that.

@AxenfonKlatismrek

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 Shut up Eunuch, we all know he inserted it in the book through dialogue.

@zacharyjochumsen9677

5 ай бұрын

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“Because If woman are know for anything it’s having the size strength and physical endurance needed for medieval sword combat” 😂😂😂

My Dad is a huge Tolkien nerd, and read the books to me as a child. He was so into the books, that when we were watching the movies, he would occasionally scoff or laugh at the things happening on screen, claiming "they weren't true to the books." When he saw The Hobbit, he was practically yelling "Oh come on!" at some parts of the movie, and he nearly walked out. Now I can't wait to see his reaction to this train wreck lmao.

@chucknorris5788

Жыл бұрын

Oh man...for his health and safety, please don't let him watch this.

@bugzyhardrada3168

Жыл бұрын

Chuck Norris is absolutely right dude

@Palaecro

Жыл бұрын

@@chucknorris5788 100% don't tell him it exists

@crowtservo

Жыл бұрын

My cousin is a huge Tolkien fan, we went to all three movies together and finally after ROTK, he said that it wasn’t terrible but he wished that they remained more loyal to the books because the stuff they changed was completely unnecessary.

@janevinfel

Жыл бұрын

You need to film him watching it so we can all see it !!

I just want to say, that as a woman, I'm sick of seeing female characters forced into male roles. It's so unnatural and always overdone. I'm not offended by the idea that men are stronger physically, and the fact that woman can no longer be portrayed and beautiful, gentle, feminine characters just kills me. I can't stand movies/tv these days. Just isn't worth my time.

@Belerez

Жыл бұрын

Galadriel was a well-known warrior-poet-type. Unfinished tales has this: Even after the merciless assault upon the Teleri and the rape of their ships, though she fought fiercely against Fëanor in defence of her mother’s kin, she did not turn back. Her pride was unwilling to return, a defeated suppliant for pardon; but now she burned with desire to follow Fëanor with her anger to whatever lands he might come, and to thwart him in all ways that she could. And there is also ...Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lórien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was cleansed. I can see her commanding as queen, and fighting as an elf-maiden but she never commanded as a general did, at least, not in Tolkein's legendarium. This series seems to be delving into the between-the-lines for its storylines, and made her a warrior-princess rather than the Most Powerful Sorceress On Middle Earth (after Luthien) we are more familiar with. Paraphrasing - the name her mother gave her meant "man maiden," and appropriately she grew up taller and stronger than all other lady elves, and was equal to men in athletic contests. She was said to be "of Amazon disposition," which in Tolkien's writings means "warrior woman" pretty specifically. Additionally, "Galadriel" is actually a nickname meaning "maiden crowned with gold" which references her habit of trying her hair in a braid around her head when doing athletic stuff.

@alejandromartinezgandara2302

Жыл бұрын

The sad part is that there are awesome woman stories in the lore, But they dont care.

@itsokimautistic3848

Жыл бұрын

@@Belerez you keep spamming those lies. unfinished tales are not canon, nor is the rest of what you are claiming true. Galadriel is a magic user, not a warrior, nor is she at the frontlines.

@Belerez

Жыл бұрын

@@itsokimautistic3848 Whaaat? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@badxradxandy

Жыл бұрын

Am I shadow banned, can anyone reply to me

Everyone I implore you don’t watch it. I know a lot of people want to watch this just to laugh at it and say how bad it is but if we want Amazon to stop we must boycott it so they don’t have any excuse to renew it.

@tymekbraciszewski447

Жыл бұрын

*cough cough* pirate it *cough cough*

@thefunnychiptuneman

Жыл бұрын

lets start a movement to boycott it cuz the last thing i need it worst LOTR movies and shows

@BattleCookie404

Жыл бұрын

can you give 0 stars on amazon if you didn't watch it?

@felipesoares5900

Жыл бұрын

Ever heard of torrents, boi?

@jennifermoriarty2188

Жыл бұрын

You know..just wacthing because its bad isn't a bad thing ..would be less stress on u if not worried about politics..you cannot control what they fed u but how u react/ absorb

Actually Númenor did have ruling queens which is why Tar-Miriel is such a tragic figure. She was the rightful heir to the throne, only to have the crown and her hand in marriage stolen by her evil cousin.

The worst part about Galadriel's depiction is that they completely missed the entire point of her power, yet even the Hobbit movies, for all their (many) flaws and executive-meddling-inflicted shortcomings, got it pretty right- even if the context didn't really happen in the book. The point of Galadriel is that she is so pure and powerful that she doesn't NEED a sword, or indeed to fight at all; it'd be the equivalent of putting some spiky bits on the exterior of an atomic warhead. Sure it might make it look badass but it has no effect on its ability. No, Galadriel can literally unmake evil by her very presence- whilst it didn't happen in the book, the scene where she basically tells Sauron to get lost, to his face, AND WINS, is pretty accurate to the spirit of the character. She's not wearing a suit of armour or wielding a giant sword- she holds a purest light which causes the Nazgul to dissipate in fear and even repels Sauron himself, all the while telling him how weak he is. And it WORKS, because that's how Galadriel is supposed to be. She doesn't hit evil really really hard with a special sword until it dies- she literally commands it to get it to get out of her sight. I don't even want to call her a badass because that's underselling her; she's a borderline hand of god. But nope, gotta give the woman a sword I guess.

@eyesofthecervino3366

Жыл бұрын

Well now I'm just sad. I've known plenty of people who could handle themselves in a fight, but there's something so much more intimidating about the type of person that's powerful from the inside, who makes you afraid of crossing them because you don't want them to see you like that. I guess this is what media looks like when it's telling people to respect and value women, but itself only respects and values people who can swing big stick real good :/

@codinghusky5196

Жыл бұрын

@@eyesofthecervino3366 it's not even that. Galadriel basically depsicts that "manipulative b*tch" power attributed to women. Look at the mother in Northman: she's basically taken away from her family by the invaders and raped into submission to birth the king a son. ah but. She seduces the King's brother, has him f*** up the king, destroys the whole kingdom, loses them their land, and sends the few survivors to become pathetic sheep herders on iceland. Where she basically reigns supreme while manipulating the beta male that is the king's brother. She doesn't even provide him with sex, he's reduced to getting some from the slaves, and he's so weak even THEY refuse him. That's womanpower there, and that's what Galadriel does NOT do when offered the ring.

@carno.5911

Жыл бұрын

she was a fighter in her early years in tolkins lore.

@billy-the-butcher

Жыл бұрын

@@carno.5911 No she wasn't. She literally apprenticed under Melian. Melian didn't train her to be a warrior. She trained her to be a spiritual leader and a loremaster. And just because she is rumoured to have fought one time in her entire life, in Alqualonde, in order to escape from the battle doesn't mean she was ever an army general or fought like Arya Stark

@carlosgaleotegandara7812

Жыл бұрын

Galadriel does not win against Saurons Spirit even tho it looked like that. Sauron let her defeat him in order to trick them into believing he was done while he was getting ready for war.

Let’s just all thank god that Lord of the Rings was made when it was made.🙏

@moonlitskylight5740

Жыл бұрын

And was made by people who actually loved Tolkien.

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

Peter Jackson knew what he was doing and he did it very well.

@phil_5430

Жыл бұрын

I tell you that: you're god damn right. At this point I believe LOTR with so many other old good movies should be considered a treasure of the movie industry

@Norbingel

Жыл бұрын

and Sauron would be a straight white man with a slightly orange hue and hair waving an AR-15 around

@Norbingel

Жыл бұрын

@@dx315 are you asking if I believe they'd actually make a straight white man with orange hue and hair waving an AR-15 around in place of Sauron? Maybe like how Wonder Woman 1984 director said a certain straight, white, orange-hued person inspired the villain? Or are you asking whether "we" believe movies today are likely to remake classic IP's into "modern politics" annoyingly tied into the story? Such as, perhaps, this one and all the other things (Star Wars, for one) mentioned in the video or other videos in the channel? Does the Northman represent the general rule or the exception?

This reminds me of a funny post I saw on pinterest where they said how the word "influencer" carries all the menace of "evil royal advisor" and below that was a picture of Grima Wormtongue whispering in Theoden's ear. How relevent that idea has become.

I can see RoP Galadriel claiming the Ring for herself rather than refusing it

". . . no amount of money can buy what Amazon desperately wants: the loyalty of their fans." - very well said.

@bulleyes9059

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't Amazon produce a lot of great shows nowadays? The boys, the expense and invincible were all fantastics and some of the best tv show on tv in the last year, I liked reacher too and peoples seem to like the terminal list. I am all in for hating Bezos and amazon, but they do produce good tv. Not sure if this show is going to suck or not, but they have a good track record this year.

@greytroll1632

Жыл бұрын

@@bulleyes9059 that is great because then they will notice the difference in viewing between these great shows and the bad ones.

@archam777

Жыл бұрын

@@bulleyes9059 I liked the 1st seaon of "the Boys", but I can't bring myself to watch the 3rd seaon........I guess im still recovering from "I can do whatever I want!!!" I was in it at 1st because, at 1st glance, I thought "edgy action comedy", but now.........all I see is a "tragedy horror", not really into that. Ntm, every single "fight" is about as anti-climatic as they can possibly get. The best/longest one being when Butcher fought Translucent in the very 1st episode. Idk, maybe i'll get around to season 3..........just feel like I need to take a shower or something after I finish watching an episode, I guess thats why I stopped and haven't gotten around to season 3 yet.

@r.c.8268

Жыл бұрын

@@greytroll1632 they have so much money, that no longer matter if a show is great or not

@jonathanellis6097

Жыл бұрын

It will though. People will still watch. Amazon will win. The house always wins.

As a woman, it's really annoying that these shows don't get that 'strong female character' doesn't actually mean PHYSICALLY strong, that's just pandering. There are so many other ways to make a 'strong female character'.

@abs7469

Жыл бұрын

@Char YES. The thing about actual, non-pandering, feminism is that it’s for ALL women. You can be a ‘strong female character’ that loves high heels and lipgloss and has never fought someone in their life🙄 look at Miranda from Devil Wears Prada for example… if anything it makes the ‘strong female character’ less strong, cause they just mimic typically masculine traits and don’t have their own agency. (Sorry for the rant haha)

@justmonika2345

Жыл бұрын

It's cheap, bad writing. We had Aliens in the 80's. It's a wonder why we can't make more Ripley's and Galadriel's.

@abs7469

Жыл бұрын

@@justmonika2345 agree, just so so cliché. What was wrong with Galadriel the way she was originally written, wasn’t she ALREADY a strong female character🤦‍♀️

@jacobj3933

Жыл бұрын

@@abs7469 Well you're correct in your og post. Tolkien's female characters were to embody the natural beauty of the feminine, and present the strength of the feminine, which differs to that of the masculine.

@3ggshe11s

Жыл бұрын

Well, you're dealing with people who think men belong in women's sporting competitions. To them, "woman" is just a costume, which is why they can't even define what a woman is. So what else are they going to do but create a female character who's basically a smaller man with breasts? The woke are the most misogynist people alive.

My favorite part is when Galadriel yells “THIS IS SPARTA!” Before push kicking the orc into the bottomless pit

You know, if Rings of power was new fantasy setting created by the writers, it would be at least okay at best

Remember when Eowyn was all like "I am no man" and stabbed the Witch King right in the face? And instead of being cringeworthy, it was actually pretty badass? Those were the days...

@arisel0v360

Жыл бұрын

Then everything changed when the SJW Nation attacked...

@smithcubs

Жыл бұрын

I stopped caring about the Lord of the Rings when I saw that. It took all of the fun out of my sails.

@pnut3844able

Жыл бұрын

@@smithcubs aaaaand no one cares.

@smithcubs

Жыл бұрын

@@pnut3844able This is a public forum and I can post what I want, regardless of how people feel about it you bum. So, take your hurt feelings somewhere else.

@jark06

Жыл бұрын

@@smithcubs why? It’s a perfectly written and set up moment. The witch king is told he cannot be killed by men. He takes this overconfidence into battle and it is his downfall and a badass moment cause Eowyn is a woman and the witch king is like ‘oh shit’ because he finally understands the prophecy. This is a perfect example of a well written moment. However in recent media a moment like this wouldn’t have any real setup it would just be forced down our throats. The witch king would charge into battle (no prophecy) and kill a bunch of guys effortlessly then instantly die to Eowyn as she lectures him about feminism or something. I guess my point is that these kinds of moments have always been in storytelling and media but recently writers have been getting lazy and not making the moment as in depth as it should be which makes it stick out and feel forced.

As a woman the whole empowering shtick is so upsetting to me, it teaches young girls to be violent, bitchy and always in the opposition to "the men" and that they should be dominating any situation they're in. It's toxic masculinity on steroids. Compare this to studio ghibli films, with tons of main female heroes, who struggle trough difficult situations without ever losing who they are.

@queenberuthiel5469

Жыл бұрын

Right? Studio Ghibli also know how to portray "strong" women. I mean in a physical sense. Examples are Lady Eboshi and San in Princess Mononoke. Even if Lady Eboshi have questionable methods and goals, she is still a strong woman who men and women alike in her land greatly respected. She does lead assaults and does carry a gun but she's not the typical "flashy show-off warrior who have the highest kills" She is just what a leader is supposed to be. Treats her subjects with equal respect. She also rescued people that society treats poorly (the prostitutes and those men in bondages/have terrible illnesses) and gave them second chance at life. The only time she fights one-on-one is with San who's literally a girl. And San, the wolf princess, doesn't overpower grown ass men either. It really shows that one can make female characters look "strong" but in a more believable way.

@JohnDoe-kg6gy

Жыл бұрын

Women in power feminize societies make them weak, incompetent and emotional. Current results speak by themselves. Just have a look at Sweden, UK or Canada. When the heat is on and shit hits the fan, just look who fight and solve problems. Hava a look in Russia, Ukraine, Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, Chechnya, Korea, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Siria, etc... Reality is not an attack, the truth is not an offense.

@armitagehux8190

Жыл бұрын

When you can't even give a definition of "woman" how can you write a good female character?

@zidahya

Жыл бұрын

Please stop assuming the gender of young people who happens to have a female phenotype.

@P.HATHCOX

Жыл бұрын

@@armitagehux8190 I wish your comment didn't reflect the state of things as well as it does right now BUT here we are 😞

"The past is dead, we either move forward or we die with it." They really never read anything from Tolkien. The producers, writers, directors, none of them has even seen the cover of a book written by Tolkien. All their research was just skimming through quick resumes on wikia pages.

@petravotroubkova1916

Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen a single episode, but WOW, this line made me stop the video and just stare at the screen. The past is dead? In works of Tolkien, which basically live in the past, sing about it, praise it and try everything they could to stop the past from dying? I hope they will have some character say "trees are boring, we should cut them all down" to really drive their point home 😁

@kavky

Жыл бұрын

@@petravotroubkova1916 And the character saying it is discount offbrand Elendil. The Elendil who lead the Faithful and survived the Downfall of Numenor specifically because they stuck with the old ways while everyone else started worshipping Morgoth.

I'm less mad about a black elf and more upset about the rest of the show. I was somewhat excited when I heard they were making this show but... After all this... I just... I'm so glad I got to watch The Lord Of the Rings in theaters. Hollywood is slowly destroying all of our favorite characters and shows and movies

When I read that the showrunners FIRED Tom Shippey, who is a renowned Tolkien biographer, I knew this was headed for fuckups-ville. I can only imagine what he had to tell them to get them to fire him. More than likely the truth.

@wyssmaster

Жыл бұрын

"Are you sure this is a good idea? Because it doesn't make sense" "Interesting you're fired get the fuck out of here"

@samlee6749

Жыл бұрын

That just shows their arrogance perfectly. I can imagine the conversation aswell. 'We don't appreciate your facts and logic Tom, please leave the set!'

@jonbaxter2254

Жыл бұрын

They hated him because he told them the truth...

@felixmerz6229

Жыл бұрын

"We didn't hire you to hear your opinion, we hired you to hear our opinions back at us. There's the door."

@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825

Жыл бұрын

He was fired because he did an interview about the series and supposedly violated an NDA (he didn't tell shit in that interview). Thats the oficial version. More likely than not they just wanted to get rid of him so they didn't have to deal with an actual based opinion about Tolkien's work...

I'm so unbelievably glad that Peter Jacksons trilogy came out when it did and that I got to experience it in cinema. Unless something seriously changes in Hollywood which I don't expect to happen at all and even if not any time soon, I don't think I will get that experience ever again. So I'm really thankful for that.

@benjaminjeffery6873

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I think every time I watch it. And I also think it every time I watch any other generic sci-fi / fantasy/ superhero film.

@felixkaletsch8691

Жыл бұрын

I am so jealous of you! Experiencing the third in Theater would have been a dream.

@JimmyRustL

Жыл бұрын

@@felixkaletsch8691 The only thing was it had such a long run time and I didn't want to miss any by going to the toilet. I was actually desperate for it to end 😂 I always thought they should have had an intermission in the middle

@r0btech

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I remember experiencing the Moria sequence in the theater and just thinking “”this is the coolest thing I’ve ever seen.” To when the audience cheered after Aragorn cut off Lurtzs head.

@xagain3106

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood was taken over my The Marxist from Russia & Germany, long ago. There's no saving it. Purge it. "Nuke it from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure." was a direct message.

Actually there were Numenorian queens. This might be Tar-Míriel, the last true heir to Numenor before her throne was stolen by Ar Pharazon. See there is some liberalism in the books (although these were later edits).

'Idiot McSquishyface' (Elrond) Caught me off guard and now I can't stop giggling like a schoolie every time I think of it.😂

The good thing about living in this age of endless shit being pumped out by corporations is that my favourite review channels get something new to rip into every week

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

@RedDot hello, infestation bot. Go away now.

@LBrobie

Жыл бұрын

that's exactly what i was thinking. 🤣

@fermentedcinema4892

Жыл бұрын

Made a little mockery of the rings of power myself! kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5-ozJlmqrzeZ9Y.html

@vcdonovan5943

Жыл бұрын

Heck, some youtube review channels and podcasts get more viewership than these mainstream media dumpster fires so it's nice that said msm dump fires keep giving these independent content creators material to work with!

@jdogg448

Жыл бұрын

Yep I spend my time watching these guys rip the shit apart rather than watching the shit, I just wish more people would stop watching this type of crap so it wouldn't get made in the first place :S

They don’t need to push Elrond down in order to prop up Galadriel. The entire Tolkien community already has so much respect for her. All they are doing is ruining two great characters

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

That's the point, they know exactly what they are doing. It is to demotivate, and destroy the passion for LOTR in the fanbase.

@VeteranVandal

Жыл бұрын

Cate Blanchet played Galadriel for less than 15 minutes on screen and did an amazing performance everyone that watched the movies remember. Besides, she's objectively more powerful than Elrond in the source material because she comes from Valinor. If they took the time to show that alone... And if they mimicked the movies antics (we'd notice) it'd be a better show than it's so far. A 7. It might become a 6.5. It's into worse than the Hobbit movies territory as is.

@user-H0000

Жыл бұрын

@@ziephel-6780 The tribe of david Seeks poison in the hearts of men

@cakins1986

Жыл бұрын

@@ziephel-6780 You will own nothing, you will like nothing, all of your favorite fictional media will be ruined, and you WILL be happy.

@JadedDragon662

Жыл бұрын

Have to constantly shove the "man bad, woman good" narrative down our throats.

As a brazillian, the national debt part is totally accurate.

I literally wanna rage and break things,I don't know if it's just me. The lotr franchise probably played one of the biggest roles in my life as far as entertainment and was a gateway to many passions and interests of mine.

@Hoffmanpack

Жыл бұрын

This absurd reality is also causing me to want to break things, like my monthly sub to amazon..Amazon... why fund a company that obliterates the creation of a great writer with modern politics...

@anastudio5248

Жыл бұрын

It's not just you, I'm furious

If they really want this franchise to be diversed, then we need Palm Tree Ents!

@wazzzaap8243

Жыл бұрын

sooo good this one :))))

@martineshamzin7535

Жыл бұрын

Im crying!!🤣

@wammbarro

Жыл бұрын

The coconuts will be censored

@georgeuferov1497

Жыл бұрын

That requires being original

@turridanrobo4051

Жыл бұрын

Or Pee Wee herman

"Forget the past, it is dead... we killed it and resurrected it in our own twisted sick image... it was easier than actually trying to create something of our own after all..." said EVERYONE involved in this horror. :(

I had goosebumps just by those few shots of Gandalf and Bilbo at the end of your video - such a profound effect has the original trilogy on me. It is timeless, I can watch it again and again. I can read the books again and again. I was so sure Rings of Power would be crap that I didn't dare to watch it myself and review like yours help me tremendously, thanks!

We still have the books and the movies to watch and no matter what happens now or in the future, remember that: All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost.

@GigglingStoners

Жыл бұрын

Be careful with the books though, Amazon started slapping on advertisements on LOTR books for their crappy show

@kw9849

Жыл бұрын

True gold never tarnishes.

@Jacob_64

Жыл бұрын

@@GigglingStoners And let them be, because as what happened in the story when the White tree of Gondor was dead and there was no fruit or sapling that could let it grow again, but it was discovered in the white mountain by Gandalf (who was wise in lore and knowledge, just like the purists of Tolkien) hence the following: the old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

@Krawurxus

Жыл бұрын

You're right, but also buy everything you care about on physical media. Anything you have on a subscription service or in the cloud can be changed or taken away. I recommend the second hand market for the books, I got a kickass hardcover LOTR triology from 1986 for like 50 bucks. You couldn't even buy anything new of that quality today.

@Stinkyremy

Жыл бұрын

I know it is in nowhere near cannon but the shadow of mordor games do a really good justice to the lore, of course it is not canon but they kept true to the actual source material and with shelob, celibrimbor ans the wraiths they added some good story that any LotR fan would enjoy.

"the company that killed more small businesses than the Great Depression..." You nailed it, mate!

In Germany, we call the stuff of the first 30 seconds "verschlimmbessern"

"Idiot McSquishy Face" I completely lost it. You, sir, are an international treasure.

Tolkien was a genius, a polygot, a great intellect, extremely religious and one very hard-working man- it is most extraordinary that he was an Oxford professor, a soldier who survived in WW1, extremely skilled in languages, incredibly versed in history and myth, AND had the creative ability to use all that to write something new. And to faithfully adapt his work in films requires geniuses, dedicated people and a small army of well prepared writers, producers, actors, set designers, craftsmen and many others. The Rings of Power creators just laid manure on all that and think they can write their own thing- "Based on the works of J.R.R. Tolkien". It is folly and it's as false as the lies of Morgoth and Sauron.

@mish375

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget, he was a polyglot that also fought in WWI and understood the sacrifices soldiers made for others. These hacks can't comprehend the work that goes into learning languages or fighting for your country. Rumour is he was also writing while serving.

@charliecharliewhiskey9403

Жыл бұрын

The writers or at least their political commisars are highly likely to have been active fanfiction writers a decade ago. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with fanfiction, but the online culture 10 years back was such that you could NEVER critique a fanfiction's quality, which led to ONLY positive comments from dullards who would be impressed by sack cloth. When you take an "author" like that, exposed to that environment during their entire adolescent foray into writing, and then heap on ideological biases, you get exactly the sort of entitlement that makes someone thing their excrement is worthy of being an official add-on to a masterpiece. Same thing happened across the arts over the past century. Was merely accelerated by the Internet.

@skatemetrix

Жыл бұрын

@@mish375 Tolkien DID write the earliest tales of the first Silmarillion whilst sheltering in the trenches of WW1- the Tale of the Fall of Gondolin was written in 1916.

@thorshammer7883

Жыл бұрын

The people responsible for this show can be summarized as this: "Be willingly ignorant, do as thou wilt there is no evil in what you do as long as you deem it right. Exalt yourself do not hearken or be humble. Make wisdom and meaning in your own likeness and vision." In short the commandment and narrative luciferians follow. And both Morgoth and Sauron are like Satan who refers to himself as Lucifer and was once known as Gadre'el the Cherubim before he fell.

@andrewjazdzyk1215

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I'm not sure being extremely religious (while obviously influenced his work) is an achievement or accomplishment worth pointing out in his list of qualifications

The strangest thing about Galadriel is she literally gave me a more uneasy feeling than any other character in LoTR. And when I finally saw her on screen it only reinforced that deep down uneasiness about her power as an ancient elf. The manspreading version of her in this 'off the rails' adaptation is laughable. What they did to her is accomplishing the opposite of their intentions, she has become a meme...Meh guhl Galadriel....as the "influencer" called her...is a joke. She was far more badass as that silent almost all powerful matriarch architype. As said in The Crow...a quote from William Makepeace Thackeray ....“Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children.” Yeah, she sort of had that aura. Almost like a motherly angel that could snatch your life away with a word of power. She was like lightning as you walked across a flat field completely exposed to it's frightening power.

@AnoNymous-gn6tl

Жыл бұрын

Also, Cate Blanchett was perfectly cast for that role. I have no idea who this actor is in this new series, but she doesn't have the presence or charisma that Blanchett does. Whenever she was on screen, everyone's eyes and ears would give her their full attention. This new performance is just "insert female empowerment quote here". I'm guessing it's going to be a case of Jackson being a better storyteller in general as well. There's going to be a lot of "tell, don't show" as is the case with most modern "the message" movies.

@akuladoctor7355

Жыл бұрын

If i were hellbent to put her in a battle, then i would have made it by creating a giant magical storm, that sweeps away her foes into the wind. A literal one woman army without the need for armor, weapon, or any of that manly strength. But considering the source material i wouldn't do that here.

@FlorisDVijfde

Жыл бұрын

Really spot on. It's really as if the supposed "feminists" consider strength as everything that was traditionally masculine, completely ignoring the power women have had for centuries. They want to ignore all differences between the sexes. What we get are dull, annoying and ridiculous Mary Sues that don't appeal to women as role models and lazy writing. Because it takes more effort to tell about the more subtle way that women wield power.

@AN71H3RO

Жыл бұрын

Writers, take notes. This is how you describe a character.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@jonbaxter2254

Жыл бұрын

I loved that feel she gave off in Two Towers. Stunning, but awe-inspiring too, like a rockslide or typhoon, a force of nature that cares not for me.

I can honestly say I belong to one of the biggest fans of LotR. I have read the book more than 15x, went 3x to the cinema to see the Fellowship of the Ring when it came out in 2001 and same goes for The Two Towers and 4x to Return of the King. I was so incredibly excited when they announced the series came out. Hoping on the best, Tolkiens world, hoping it would have 15 seasons or more. Im so incredible disappointed how they destroyed Tolkiens world you have no idea.

Tolkien specifically said he was an anarchist. But that's the opposite of the crazy nonsense of Amazon today.

Me enjoying Tolkien's books and Jackson's films for the first time: "Oh, a nice thing. I like that.' Me *remembering* Tolkien's books and Jackson's films *now* : "the world was fair, the mountains tall, in elder days before the fall"

@Ryan-mech-muffin

Жыл бұрын

Nice reference

@hammer1349

Жыл бұрын

"The wolrd is grey, the mountains old, the forge's fire is ashen cold. No harp is strung, no hammer falls, the darkness dwells in Durin's halls"

@guillaumequevy418

Жыл бұрын

You know the Hobbit movies are Jackson's as well right? And based on a Tolkien book. They were bad.

@davfree9732

Жыл бұрын

I reckon RoP is an attempt to craft a new licence that will be used to try and acquire the actual, real licence. This is smacking to close to how Star Trek went after the Alt licence was developed. RoP doesn’t have access to the source licence and so they bought access to what they could and threw something together. If their slice of the LOtR pie gets enough views and money, they’ll make a play for the whole pie.

@VasiliyOgniov

Жыл бұрын

@@guillaumequevy418 I'd argue that they were not bad. At least not "shit" as a lot of people say. They felt much worse than they actually are in comparison to the LOTR trilogy (which is one of the best film trilogies of the whole fucking cinema) and, well, not a lot of films can really compare. They are not in the same league with their older brothers but still not a "trash". They had great music, nice visuals, good cast and overall these films were pretty pleasant to watch despite fucked up pacing, weak and shallow story and a lot of differences with the canon. I've watched them once, enjoyed, and never touched again. This new series, however, is seems to be much, much, much worse. I sincerely hope that it wouldn't be half as bad as we expect or else new generation will have pretty fucked up perception of Arda

being a hispanic I feel that my race in general is ultimately under represented but I don't go around trying to push hispanics into roles that were originally created a certain way. I don't want a hispanic captain america, I don't want a hispanic elf, I don't want a hispanic Leon Kennedy. I enjoy the art for what it is. What seems more racist? A movie that only has white people, or a movie trying to cram every single race like it's bullet points on a form.

@TheRealNormanBates

Жыл бұрын

well, we know the answer to _that_ one!

@Almighty_Mage

Жыл бұрын

Hispanic isn’t a race.

@lithe.susurrous661

Жыл бұрын

I'm not Hispanic but I always thought it strange how underrepresented Hispanics are compared to blacks and Jews. They're way way more Hispanics in America then Jews or blacks.

@Us3r739

Жыл бұрын

That’s the main problem with most media today. They try and include political nonsense and abortion and random culture and gay nonsense in a fantasy world. Is it a fantasy world? Or our world? ☹️

@NRSGuardian

Жыл бұрын

Especially, when there are so many great stories and so much rich culture to draw from to create Hispanic media from. All the mythology and history connected to Hispanic culture is ripe for story-tellers to use to create something that most audiences haven't really seen before.

There are only two Tolkien scholars, JRR and Christopher.

Amazon : " you will consume the content , and you will be happy "

Just imagine the level of ego it takes to copy somebody else's creation that is widely revered by generations without the consent of the author or his son, while simultaneously slandering the shit out of the original material, and then insulting the people who loved it by labelling them as racists and sexists when they point out that all of the changes you've made have zero resemblance to what they loved. Sums up modern society, eh?

@overgrowndwarf1628

Жыл бұрын

90 years of uninterrupted greatness, a story that a father was telling his son that got out of hand. A few years ago that son died, and the latest generation gains custody. Within a year, it has been corrupted beyond recognition.

@brandong550

Жыл бұрын

It's nice to see some people still get it.

@dianamgallagher

Жыл бұрын

Right! Cue the "Fucking hubris" clip!

@koekaiking

Жыл бұрын

Postmodern nihilistic narcicism,

@stormryder4305

Жыл бұрын

Sums up only to Amazon's "Super fans." Not the rest of modern society.

Amazon probably paid KZread more money to remove the dislike button than they did the writers who worked on this show.

@BaddeJimme

Жыл бұрын

It looks like videos that mention recent big budget movies show up in feeds far more often than other content. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKiZ1LN_mqzgYtI.html The hilarious part? I am swamped with "RoP is woke bs" videos. Far more than I ever care to watch. I have never seen a straightforward ad for it.

@hamuArt

Жыл бұрын

luckily we have addons to show that

@AntonVeliTajan

Жыл бұрын

There are browser addons which bring back the dislike count.

Amazon don't own the TV rights to the Silmarilion. So I hope Warner Bros can buy them.

I think most including me agree with you fully. One correction though, Numenor did have queens rule over them. This was because one of the kings was left with only a daughter as his successor. The law was then updated so that eldest child (son or daughter) would ascend to the throne. However this was seen only in Numenor as neither Gondor or Arnor had queens.

Tolkien will outlast these destroyers and usurpers. The silly “influencers” who “love” LOTR will forget about it faster than they hyped it and the true fans will return and claim the throne again.

@Yesica1993

Жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you! I just feel sorry for any younger people for whom this will be their first exposure to it. But maybe it will lead them to the original 3 Peter Jackson movies and especially the Tolkien books. They will then see what crap they were fed here.

@chogan73

Жыл бұрын

Jesus christ seeing those "influencers" was the most cringe thing I've ever seen.

@AltoStratusX1

Жыл бұрын

"It’s like in the great stories Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy. How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad happened. But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer."

@SamtheBravesFan

Жыл бұрын

I do believe that. The grifters will get bored and move on and the fans will stay.

We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. What we were trying to do was to analyze what was important to Tolkien and to try to honor that. In a way, we were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves. - Peter Jackson

@EspatiallyGood

Жыл бұрын

Did Peter actually say that? Wow.... Quite a different attitude and one that should be applauded. Amazon and Disney seem to be trying to do the complete opposite these days.

@luxintenebris1776

Жыл бұрын

@@EspatiallyGood Yeah, he said it during an interview.

@pizzasharkguy3807

11 ай бұрын

And that's just what they did. Enormous respect for him and the insane effort that was making the film (like making edoras alone it's insane)

It's as if "Rings of Power" was written by Wormtongue for Sauron.

We were pleasantly surprised by House of the Dragon.

Lord of the rings is deeply rooted in English History. It is a love letter to the thematic beats that founded England as a country, from the Mythological ideas of King Arthur, the migrations of the Saxons and even the politcal and ethnic divide of the Norman "High men" and Saxon "Lower men". All these themes are English to the core, which is reflected in Lord of the Rings. Fundamentally, encroaching Lord of the Rings with identity politics is to prove the culture of English people is no longer to be owned by them, it is to be cut up and distributed as everyones. Rings of Power is fundamentally Anti-white and anti-english.

@dmtaboo_truth7052

Жыл бұрын

Also European history at large. The Charge of the Rohirim is based on the holy league riding down from Europe to liberate the hopelessly besieged city of Vienna from the Turks (Gondor and the orcs).

@metalassassin8841

Жыл бұрын

@@dmtaboo_truth7052 🎶then the winged hussars arrived!🎶 But yea, Tolkien didn't only get inspiration from the English folklore but the whole Europe, just sayin :)

@gianna526

Жыл бұрын

I really don't understand why there NEEDS to be a bunch of different races. It should be ok to occasionally have a story with a cast of one race, especially if there's a reason to. There are movies/shows with all black casts, made for black people, about black issues, and that's perfectly ok. Not everything needs to include everyone. And plenty of black people absolutely love Lord of the Rings.

@furryfury.

Жыл бұрын

As a PoC, I agree. What’s scary is forced diversity creates even more division as it creates resentment amongst the ‘disrespected.’ I feel like forced diversity is mostly about vengeance against colonialists and that sort of mindset is humanity not moving forward.

@GeraltofRivia22

Жыл бұрын

So basically what's actually busy happening in England.

"The rings of power is going to upset Tolkien purists, and that's a good thing." that's a marketing disaster right there, whoever is responsible for this, should be fired immediately

@thatonerandompersononthein9590

Жыл бұрын

"The people who are most likely to show interest in, and support our products? Yeah, they wont like it" LMAO

@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight

Жыл бұрын

Even stupider is the PR behind intentionally making enemies out of your audience and berating them. While every fandom has its share of unsavory folks, it’s never a smart idea to lump all fans as being the same “toxic fanbase” just for disagreeing with your adaptation. Disney Star Wars made this mistake already. You’re supposed to unite your fans through their passionate love of the same franchise to maximize your profits, not play an asinine political agenda game to divide them.

@ironsentinel6047

Жыл бұрын

They probably got promoted.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Star Wars fans are toxic and piteous. They've spent months complaining aboot Reva even before the Kenobi series aired.

@Real_MisterSir

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight They want to abuse the love for the franchise to ensure easy marketing potential. Yet they will switch on a dime as soon as any of that "love for the franchise" goes against their wokefest agenda. They just can't make up their minds on what they wanna do. Cater to existing beloved franchise fanbases or not? They want to take those fans' money while belittling them for being fans. It's so hypocritical it makes my brain hurt just thinking about such people actually existing.

They are ruining them on purpose. It's the only thing I can think of. "Lawd o dem rangz".

According to Amazon, the responses to the diverse cast is "the reactionary backlash accompanying any modern project with female characters or characters of color".

@bigplato6668

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely disgusting

“Elrond” telling “Galadriel” to put down her sword cause there’s no more evil to fight in the world is one of the most stupid things in the entire trailer. (And that is pretty impressive because almost everything in the trailer is pretty damn stupid.) In the books Elrond was one of the only Elves to be prepared for Sauron’s return to middle earth. He knew there were servants of Morgoth still left in the world, and consequently he didn’t fall for Sauron’s attempt at deceiving the elves. It is totally out of character for him to be saying this to anyone, more or less freaking Galadriel. This show is going to make him out to be an incompetent beta male who gets out shown by Amazon’s manspreading Galadriel. However, in reality he was one of the most wise and powerful elvish lords of the second age. And another thing, Elrond and Galadriel would not be bantering with each other like the stupid teenagers Amazon is trying to portray them as. They are two of the most wise and powerful of the Eldar left in middle earth. The fact that Amazon is trying to portray these royal immortal beings like mere human teenagers makes me want to puke. This entire scene with them talking is so stupid and convoluted. The dialogue sounds like it was written by a twelve year old. Where are they even at? It looks like a frozen waste land. So is it Forodwaith in the north? If so, why the hell are these two characters in Forodwaith? Is it the crossing of the Helcaraxë? If it is then why is Elrond there? He wouldn’t have even been born yet. Also their swords look freaking stupid. The hilts are so stupidly long and the cross guards so stupidly small. They do not look practical at all. In Peter Jackson’s movies they made sure to make everything look like it could exist and be used in real life. Even down to spoons and forks! Amazon clearly does not have that same level of care and respect for Tolkien’s world. I could go on endlessly ranting about Amazon’s bastardization of Tolkien’s life long work, but I thing this will have to do for today.

@commentdouchery2838

Жыл бұрын

Probably the most thought out comment I've read all day. Sad to think that this is more entertaining and lore accurate than the show Amazon is producing...

@raureif1874

Жыл бұрын

I bet you the writters, directors, showrunners and basically everyone involved in making the series have no clue what the hell a Forodwaith or a Helcaraxe even is. They just made an awe insprining frozen landscape because it looks pretty and is cheap to do in CGI. The ice location is problably somewhere around Moria because that's a location that "fans" know from the original trilogy. I don't expect them to have any more knowledge about the lore than what you pick up with in one sitting of LOTR and the Hobbit.

@garyhardison9265

Жыл бұрын

Males have to be portrayed as weak and incompetent so that the female characters can be strong and save the male characters.

@jonwacken4312

Жыл бұрын

Fucking nailed it

@CoNteMpTone

Жыл бұрын

@Kaleb Dude please do a full fledged, twelve hour long in depth roasting review of the entire series in ONE PART. No "episode 3-review" but one big, final, definitive piece.

I feel nostalgic for the days when we argued about the validity of that scene where Aragorn is nearly killed by a warg, or whether Jackson was right to kill off Saruman. Happy times. Innocent times 😔

@hathawaydj1

Жыл бұрын

Or... did that Balrog have wings?

@longwlenguyen4214

Жыл бұрын

@@hathawaydj1 Or Tom Bombadil.

@berengustav7714

10 ай бұрын

And how inaccurate it is to have Gandalf the White have a mere wraith as his nemesis when book Gandalf is greater than even the highest elf.

@sarov7658

10 ай бұрын

Or how Hobbit trilogy is better than lotr

@MRAIClassroom

6 ай бұрын

Aaah the good old days, I still say Tom Bom and golden berry shoulda made it in, but that’s an argument for a simpler time! lol

When he referenced “Idiot McSquishy Face” Elrond I spit out my coffee. 😂

7:45 initially that was true, but the law in Númenor was later changed to allow Ruling Queens. Miriel was supposed to be Queen but was forced to marry Ar-Pharazôn and he usurped the throne. I think Númenór had three Ruling Queens or something. 👍

I'm so glad the original LOTR trilogy was made in a time when people were smarter. I've got that to hang on to while I ignore this anti-Middle-Earth campaign completely.

@snuffmeister6720

Жыл бұрын

the brilliant minds of the early 2000s, creators of such work as smashmouth and 9-11

@anbu2

Жыл бұрын

@@snuffmeister6720 He's got a point. "The Flynn Effect" hasn't been true since the mid eighties, meaning we've had four decades of lowering IQs.

@kanikagaral7637

Жыл бұрын

I swear. It was done with in time for us to enjoy a quality entertainment. Now its all woke and cringe.

@FreedomAndPeaceOnly

Жыл бұрын

Rings of Woker. As a German it feels wierd to think maybe we would live in a better time if Hitler wouldn't have lost.

@IMBREISGAU

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly where you live? I got something to deliver.

Remember Tolkien's words: _"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"._

@ohsteeev

Жыл бұрын

Not his words, but has the spirit of something he might write

@notcrazy6288

Жыл бұрын

@@ohsteeev It's a paraphrase of a conversation in the Two Towers regarding how orcs were made.

@aesir1ases64

Жыл бұрын

@@ohsteeev It has the spirit of something HE WROTE: Thats basically the whole story of the first age, Melkor (the real dark lord) is a rebellious child and wants to create his own things outside Eru's (god) intentions, so he goes searching for the imperishable flame that will allows him to do so, but he never finds it, and as such he cannot create anything but only corrupts and distorts it. Thats how Orcs, Dragons and other beasts were made, only God can create life and beauty (humans and elves actions trough God's intent).

@ohsteeev

Жыл бұрын

@@aesir1ases64 Hence, not his words.

@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370

Жыл бұрын

@@aesir1ases64 a perfect description of today's writers and producers.

We are living in a time period which will be mocked in the future.

as a harry potter scholar i have to ask: "is that like a personal attack or something?"

“Evil cannot create anything new, it can only corrupt and destroy what the forces of good have invented or done.” - J.R.R.Tolkien

@captain_context9991

Жыл бұрын

Thats exactly why I dont like "monsters" and "evil" in games or movies. Because they are a singular destructive force. They have no other function or motive. Which is so one-dimensional and boring.

@thorshammer7883

Жыл бұрын

The people responsible and overseeing this show can be summarized as this: "Be willingly ignorant, do as thou wilt there is no evil in what you do as long as you deem it right. Exalt yourself do not hearken or be humble. Make wisdom and meaning in your own likeness and vision." In short the commandment and narrative luciferians follow. Same philosophy Morgoth and Sauron practiced as they both are like Satan/Lucifer/Gadre'el the fallen angel who was once a Cherubim of Eden before he fell. The exalted hurbis and hatred for truth to exalt yourself and by your delusional brightness is terribly evil. Baking lies and half truths to forge the paradigms of your narrative, false wisdom.

@rapecelnationalist

Жыл бұрын

@@captain_context9991 Evil is a necessary force, though. Without Evil, Good eventually disposes of itself. I would rather have Evil destroy Good, rather than Good destroy itself. It is, in this way, how Evil redeems itself; without Evil there would truly be no Good.

@TankTaur

Жыл бұрын

Tolkien never said that though

@archam777

Жыл бұрын

@@captain_context9991 Newsflash, you're NOT suppose to "like" the monster. Some things are just evil........the common theme of "everything is a shade of gray" has been beaten to death, people are sick of it. The "everything is subjective" movement is part of the problem with the @$$tards screwing up masterpieces like LOTR. Give me "the monster is the bad guy" any day over this, "know YOUR truth", "the bad guy is actually the good guy", "diversity in everything", sh!t that we've been dealing with since Ghostbusters 2016. Rather have the classic "Heroes Journey" than ANY of the modern "SH!T", that stands on the shoulders of giants.......just to spit on their heads.

There is one character we can absolutely guarantee will not be altered via "the message" in the new Rings of Power series. If Sauron makes an appearance, he will undoubtedly be a white male. What other sex and race would now be considered suitable for the character Tolkien stated, "came as near to a wholly evil will as was possible." A white male, of course.

@breastmilkenjoyer5552

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen him? He looks like Eminem they gave him like almost a buzz cut.

@aivokallo77

Жыл бұрын

Sauron will also make more money than any female character. Money and wage gap need to be addressed in the LoTR next.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@MrSnake9419

Жыл бұрын

@@breastmilkenjoyer5552 That isn't Sauron - stop believing everything you read on the internet and go find out yourself before making yourself look stupid

@nilocblue

Жыл бұрын

Of course, because he’s the evil dictator, he needs to be a white male.

You know they really found "the biggest fans" when not one of them shows up in cosplay.

Do they have in-house critics that understand the core story that the franchise revolved around? Surely there has to be SOMEONE in a multi-billion dollar industry that knows good when they see it, and has the guts to tell people when something is hot, wet, steaming dog droppings.

Remember, if this becomes canon, then the elves could be percieved as having committed a huge purging of their own kind based on the colour of their flesh

@kaydars

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that's the point.

@ryanwilkinson1513

Жыл бұрын

it's not going to become canon is it, are you dim? do you think the lord of the rings movies became canon

@-.-.11

Жыл бұрын

Will never be canon. Only what was written by Tolkien himself will ever be canon. Either way though, this show is just generic fantasy sludge.

@YevOnegin

Жыл бұрын

wtf I love Rivendell now

@HateshWarkio

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Hitelf and his Third Age Reich

We already had well written female characters in the original trilogy. When Eowyn said "I am no man" and stabbed the Witch King in the face in true badass fashion, I thought that it was a great spectacle to see.

@dajongedflamer1375

Жыл бұрын

And that's pretty memorable scene too..without pushing too hard on feminist stuff

@izabelmariabroad5368

Жыл бұрын

And might I add how gracefully and humbly Tolkien wrote that moment to be. It isn't Eowyn saying 'I'm a woman, I'm better than men', rather it's her fulfilling the Witch King's prophetic statement that no man can defeat him. And it is uniquely Eowyn's love for her uncle that fuels her standing up to the Witch King. A woman defending a man she loves. Such an awesome, beautiful thing. Eowyn is fierce, and driven to be of service to her people. She's not a vacuous, self-centred 'boss bitch'.

@studyguy.7660

Жыл бұрын

@@dajongedflamer1375 Precisely

@ricardosalavisa4490

Жыл бұрын

@@izabelmariabroad5368 still Eowyn defeat Witch King thanks to Merry, there is some details about that are not in the movie.

@TheOrientalNightFish

Жыл бұрын

@@ricardosalavisa4490 true, let's not overlook Merry! ❤️ Merry is also encouraged not to participate in the battle. Eowyn is headstrong and determined to fight for the people and the land that she loves, but she's borderline forbidden to participate. Merry is deemed too inexperienced to be of service. Both of them are unlikely heroes in that respect, yet its because of them that the Witch King is defeated. Not even a king or a seasoned warrior defeats this incredible enemy. I think Tolkien is telling us about the huge strength of spirit and courageous hearts that reside in both Eowyn and Merry and this is what turns the tide in the world.

The Matrix, LoTR, Cowboy Beebop...so many of my beloved ip's getting remade...and I'm not watching a single one of them, who would've thought...

BTW Lenny Henry as a Hobbit is genuine, not a Comic Relief sketch.

When the #1 goal is to showcase diversity, inclusion, and equity instead of making a good show, you get stuff like this. I'm sure that at least some of the actors in this thing realize that the only reason they got a part in this show was because they checked the right diversity box that the producers were looking for. It's gotta be a blow to the ego of some of these actors to know that you're just a diversity hire.

@Zukoiu

Жыл бұрын

I do wonder if that's the case, because you know what? Money or not, if someone was using me as a poster-child thing, I'd fucking quit.

@redfordreddington8834

Жыл бұрын

you are a bigot

@killbotter6998

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if there is a word for when you hire someone based on their ethnicity.....

@Icetea-2000

Жыл бұрын

I doubt it, they’re so far up their own asses they genuinely believe they’re fighting for diversity here

@trouper206

Жыл бұрын

Dude if you’re not on board with the ideology, then you wouldn’t be making movies in left leaning Hollywood, for left leaning Amazon. I highly doubt that any of these actors regret their multi million dollar contracts.