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One of my favorite sayings is: If two people agree on everything, only one of them is doing the thinking.

@paulineashcroft1485

5 ай бұрын

So true.

@James_36

5 ай бұрын

@@paulineashcroft1485 and yet in here and other podcasters comments you have cults agreeing with every word LOL makes me laugh hard

@sharonreichter2537

5 ай бұрын

Or perhaps they have just thought things out, independently, before they meet.

@em6577

5 ай бұрын

Oh I like that

@tzc9309

4 ай бұрын

@@sharonreichter2537 to be honest though, i think the chances of anyone meeting someone with whom they agree upon everything 100% without some form of this is close to zero probability wise lol. So the statement would hold true to a greater or lesser degree. You could also take your point from a different approach too, and suggest in order for this to occur, the two people would also have to know exactly the same things, which is also unlikely, otherwise one person would be forming opinions without knowledge on the topic, once again making it somewhat more likely this is the case without some form of unbiased independent research, critical thinking, and discussion.

I've been saying this for decades. In Canada, when talking to someone about something new, one of the first things they say is "arent you afraid" or "isn't that dangerous". Covid really showed just how cowardly the majority are.

@Jeff-cn9up

5 ай бұрын

Since I am one, I can confirm that most Canadians, the classic ones anyway, are chickenshits.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for admitting that.

@luisacleaves9592

5 ай бұрын

Yes, reactions to Covid demonstrated it.

@Jeff-cn9up

5 ай бұрын

@@jmcc2275 Lol. I can admit it for them, but I'm not. Every day I feel like I'm living with pod people from Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The virus years were rough, watching them all wet themselves.

@salmonnnnman

5 ай бұрын

​@@Jeff-cn9upso what makes you not a coward?

Fear of rejection from our "chosen" tribe is the greatest barrier to reaching our full potential as individuals.

@alf3071

5 ай бұрын

can you eliminate the need for having a tribe tho? because most of the time the tribe always tries to drag you down when you want to evolve

@calebroberts08

5 ай бұрын

You say that like its a bad thing! It usually isnt

@Usureboutdat

5 ай бұрын

@@alf3071Counterintuitively, I think that it is actually the case that one of two things happens when we confront this fear and refuse to compromise our own values with those of our tribe. 1 - We first face rejection from the most fearful and fragile within the group, but end up being elevated by the others within the group who silently share our values. 2 - We are entirely rejected and ostracized from the group, which ultimately brings us one step closer to finding the tribe to which we truly belong, as it will be more closely aligned with who we really are. This is undoubtedly a painful process, but the slow death one experiences when compromising our values and instincts over the course of a lifetime is far more painful.

@Usureboutdat

5 ай бұрын

@@calebroberts08 If your goal is simply to be accepted, and you are willing to pay the price of remaining silent every time you disagree with the values of your group, sure it isnt a bad thing. If your goal is to live a life in which your fulfillment is derived from the extent to which you are able to affect positive change in the world, it makes sense to pursue your own highest potential regardless of the social consequences, most of which end up being temporary.

@mattmyers2624

5 ай бұрын

​@@calebroberts08 Until they generate WW3 and genocide and you end up on the losing side in response because your "side" has lost full control of the media and suppression-censorship-narrative control apparatus.

When people do step in to stop crime, especially in the cities, the government seems keen on punishing the "heroes" but not the initial criminals. That is why a lot of people do not want to step into third party encounters.

@MagicE13

5 ай бұрын

I was going to comment on this - that subway hero who choked held some harassing and attacking people, arrested and vilified for being racist. usually when a women is being attacked, they know the attacker and are having an argument. Men's lives have literally been destroyed by the courts for merely helping strangers, Men didn't stop helping because we don't want to be Men, Men stopped helping because society attacked and degraded Men for helping. Douglas should look into why the Society/Government rejects Men and the help they used to provide for their community. The answer is More Government control.

@edwardcorne538

5 ай бұрын

What you’re saying is accurate however the question men have to ask themselves is “Can I live with not taking action?”. For many even if the consequences are to be labeled a racist or anything else negative the price of inaction is too much. No amount of rationalization will calm your consciousness. That’s something everyone needs to face if your put into chaotic situations.

@brianmeen2158

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I just saw another video where a large group storms a Foot Locker and grabs everything they want and then run out. The customers just watch and there are no workers in sight and even had they been present there’s not much they can do

@vlcthefish

5 ай бұрын

​@@edwardcorne538 “Can I live with not taking action?” Sure I can. Remember, statistically speaking the women getting raped on the subway voted liberally for a system that allowed that to take place. In other words imagine intervening on a situation and losing your life over a person who voted for a government to allow that to happen in the first place. They want to defund the police and protect criminals? well here's what they get.

@vlcthefish

5 ай бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 Never intervene in those situations. Security guards who are getting paid to stop that are losing their lives over this. There was just a case in Philly a couple weeks ago where two Macy's security guards got stabbed and one died trying to stop someone from stealing.

The most terrifying revelation I've had in recent years is that human beings are absolutely a herd animal

@Joao-id4dn

5 ай бұрын

Ok but....was that ever different? I think it was even worse in ancient times

@TheDrunkHamster

5 ай бұрын

​@Joao-id4dn there have always been those who went against the grain and were destroyed for it. History remembers them favorably in hindsight, but they were still destroyed

@dlady4

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDrunkHamster exactly

@kari8187

5 ай бұрын

Social creatures with foresight and irrational emotions, it’s complicated 😂

@neilreynolds3858

5 ай бұрын

It explains so much, doesn't it? It's also hardwired into the amygdala so you can't take someone and convince them to not be a lemming except through extreme measures that change the structure of the amygdala. What's really scary is that they're trying to find drugs that will reinforce herd behavior in both people who are already herd oriented and in those who are not. Herds are much easier to control.

"Be safe" has become like a papercut to my soul's eye. We need courage and curiousity to stay alive.

@7DAYSOFOPENINGNIGHTS

5 ай бұрын

Precisely. "Be safe" is about as dumb as saying "avoid life."

@TheZGALa

5 ай бұрын

Yes! People be walking around with the aspirations of the dead. @@7DAYSOFOPENINGNIGHTS

@Pfeffa

5 ай бұрын

Onward and upward

@neilreynolds3858

5 ай бұрын

When people would repeat that during covid, I just told them no I wouldn't. Life is not safe. Telling someone to stay safe is telling them to die. Fear eats the soul.

@TheZGALa

5 ай бұрын

I turned a lot more abbrasive, and drove nearaly everyone away from me. "Safety can go fuck itself" is what I took to saying. The state I am in (NM) was one of the worst in the US for lockdowns. It was beyond absurd and harmful to nearly everyone, though it did seem to be a good move for beaches, as they got a break from us for a whole year or two. @@neilreynolds3858

'I could always hear my better self clearing his throat in the room next door.' Wow, that is brilliant.

Anyone remember the young Marine Vet who was arrested for coming to the rescue of others on the NYC Subway? No good deed goes unpunished.

Here in Canada, cowardice is worshiped as a social virtue.

@ickster23

5 ай бұрын

I've been saying "strong and free" needs to be removed from our national anthem.

@lisaguo7734

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@tylerdurden8378

5 ай бұрын

@@ickster23 Trudeau is doing his best to get rid of it.

@tylerdurden8378

5 ай бұрын

@@Usureboutdat The problem is that "Canadians" are actually a minority now in most of Canada and definitely in the Toronto and Vancouver areas.

@carmenmccauley585

5 ай бұрын

​@tylerdurden8378yes that's true.

I remember watching the "Ordinary Men" documentary about the German policemen who were conscripted into executing thousands of Jews during WW2. They went over the moment where the leadership lined them up and told them that anyone can step away if they want before they commenced. Surprisingly (or not), only a handful did. What I loved about the documentary highlighted in regard to this is they said that those who stepped away from performing executions were then harassed, ostracized, and given months of menial degrading labor. And most importantly the documentary said, "It's very hard for humans to endure long periods of being ostracized." This is so true and I'm glad they said it. Most people are cowards but it's important to note how painful it can be to not go along with the crowd. It irks me when people act like going against the grain isn't a big deal and who cares what people think. Every human who isn't a sociopath cares on some level what others think and we want to belong, and feeling a sense of belonging is one of the highest highs a person can experience. Being shunned out of a group is incredibly painful and hard to endure. It doesn't make what those men did but it does show how hard it can be to do what's right when you're all alone.

@Joy-qs7jf

5 ай бұрын

I am alone, I refuse to keep quiet and too bad if it is hard and I am no sociopath. May or may not be a big deal but I know right from wrong and have to live with my own conscience. Would rather be alone than go along with a crowd that I do not agree with.

@zelig1799

5 ай бұрын

This may be why opposition often comes from the people who are already outsiders. The people who have little left to lose are more willing to stand up and speak. But, due to their social status they can be easily dismissed.

@ickster23

5 ай бұрын

I disagree. I frequently go it alone and I really don't care what others think. I'm pretty sure I'm not a sociopath, just someone who can find joy in the moment without needing social validation for anything. Solo offshore sailing and solo hiking death valley and other remote areas are some of my most cherished times on this planet.

@michaelblazin4093

5 ай бұрын

I have not seen that work, but have read other stories that, other than being left out, the penalties were minimal for other groups. The Nazis knew that these actions were repugnant. A lot of the discussion at the infamous Wannasee Conference was about their negative impact on regular soldiers. The Nazis in most cases did not want to highlight soldiers or police in disciplinary actions against those that refused to participate. The refusers could not openly challenge the government, but could say no for themselves.

@josephbustamante6734

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, or the events of German atrocities are grossly exaggerated! Which I suspect is the case.

Sometimes courage is simply making the most out of your circumstance and not playing victim.

"The path of least resistance leads to crooked rivers and crooked men." ~Henry David Thoreau

I need to hear what you have to say daily. Keep it up Douglas Murray! You are one of the few that doesn't spout BS on virtually every subject. If more people were able to think themselves and were not afraid not to care "what will other people think" and had a sense of decency and kindness, it would be a far better world.

Unfortunately, if you step in, especially in cities like New York, you are likely to find yourself in jail. When there are no real men in charge, they will prosecute you because they are cowards and ashamed that they would be too afraid to help anyone but they will wield the power they have to make up for their shortcomings, knowing, that in this situation you, the strong man they wish they were, is at their mercy.

@calebncontreras-117

4 ай бұрын

Damn that’s a thorough analysis of a common scenario. I always assumed it was just laziness or incompetence to not put forth the mental energy to investigate who the instigator was and it’s easier to just take everyone to jail. I think you’re right though. People can act very cruel and vindictive in the face of public embarrassment.

Murray is smart and brave. A rare combination in 2023.

@lewreed1871

5 ай бұрын

What a joke.

@wattlebough

5 ай бұрын

This is for Douglas Murray as much as anyone else: get training. A MINIMUM of twice a week for three years. Muay Thai Judo Boxing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Gracie Survival Tactics) Krav Maga Freestyle Wrestling Sambo Don’t waste your time with anything else. If it’s legal to conceal carry, get an Sig P320 X-Compact 9mm or similar with a Safariland IWB retention holster. And train regularly. Look up Shivworks with Craig Douglas or Active Self Protection for their courses in the US. Also carry less-than-lethal if it’s lawful in your area. Pom OC Pepper Spray and a clinch pick knife or similar, and train with them. Learn the laws around self defence in your country or state. And learn and regularly revise your first aid skills, especially dealing with traumatic bleeding. Learn to use a quality tourniquet (Beware of cheap asian made tourniquets that fail. Refer to Mountain Man Medical for quality tourniquets made in the USA). Learn how to wound pack with haemostatic gauze. These are skills that will require lifelong maintenance and upkeep. Get to it.

I’ve told family they’re cowards. There’s a lot of reasons they’re woke or incurious or uninterested but ultimately, it boils down to cowardice.

@incurableromantic4006

5 ай бұрын

It's also laziness - it's just *easier* to repeat what the MSM says than it is to do the mental work of understanding that you're being lied to.

@Cantbearsed447

5 ай бұрын

Arguing with your family achieves very little.

@brianmeen2158

5 ай бұрын

@@Cantbearsed447political arguments rarely go well . I see folks arguing about it daily online - each side uses the same talking points over and over. Insanity

@ZonarosaSmith

5 ай бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 I’ve now boiled most discussion down to taxes. It’s pretty effective unless I’m arguing with a schtlibb extremist who emphatically says “I LIKE paying taxes!!!!”

@ZonarosaSmith

5 ай бұрын

@@incurableromantic4006 I think there’s an element of cowardice in laziness.

1:38 “Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.” - Oscar Wilde.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

You’ve just proved that by quoting him.

@guyincognito.

5 ай бұрын

@@jmcc2275 I knew someone would reply with this. You're wrong, of course. Read it again.

I've made a conscious effort in the last 10 years to always speak up - especially when (as often happens) I'm the only one in the room brave enough to challenge a leftist viewpoint. It's *never* pleasant, but I prefer it to feeling ashamed for not speaking up.

@Stolat79

5 ай бұрын

Same.

@stephenowens3687

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely. The shame of not speaking up, or not stepping in to help will linger in your head for a long long time after the event.

@dukecity7688

5 ай бұрын

Damn straight - Being able to face myself in the mirror is more important to me than being popular.

@chessmckenzie8319

5 ай бұрын

Same

@gabbypage6929

5 ай бұрын

Same

How I love listening to both of you talking, discussing like adults! Mono-thinking, outsourced thinking... I love that.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

So…you not an adult?

My late father was 5ft 3ins tall. One day he saw a man uncontrollably beating a small child in the street. He went over and told him to stop and got beaten up for his trouble. This is of of the stories of my father I held on to. It told me that sometimes you have to take the beating if what you're doing is right. It's always helped me each time I've taken a beating in my life

@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv

5 ай бұрын

It’s better to be the one beating then getting beaten bro ngl if you arnt a trained fighter or you are but just outclassed you are entirely at the other persons mercy and if they are ok with beating the shit out of a baby if you can’t defend yourself what’s stopping them from killing you? Kinda silly ngl good way to get killed over something you won’t even be remembered for sad but it’s the honest truth

True story: I’m a small female. 5’2” weighed about 115. While walking to the train after work one evening a saw a man assaulting his girlfriend. There were lots of big strong men just standing by and nobody did anything. I finally couldn’t take it anymore and handled it myself. I was pretty mortified that the only person who stepped up to help her was me.

@moniquebode1655

5 ай бұрын

Good on you. Shame on those men that did nothing

@Gail-gf7km

5 ай бұрын

I experienced a similar situation. I cannot abide a bully, and I cannot, I will not, stand by and watch.

@revolutionaryhamburger

5 ай бұрын

As a man I was raised to reflexively help women in distress. Over the years I have been conditioned by strong and empowered feminists to not do that. My experience is current year independent women violently resent such intervention. My experience is the women will turn against the white knight and betray him in the end. Domestic violence is a personal thing, after all. It's like the feminists like to chant, "Her body, her choice!"

@Gail-gf7km

5 ай бұрын

@@revolutionaryhamburger it behooves all of us to help anyone in distress, male or female, young or old.

@revolutionaryhamburger

5 ай бұрын

@@Gail-gf7km Here in US a fellow driving to work saw a woman being savagely beaten by the side of the road. He stopped, got out to help and the male shot him dead. Then the female he meant to help helped cover up the crime of her boyfriend. In another case, a man saw a woman being beaten bloody inside a car parked outside a courthouse. The man used a firearm to rescue the woman. The woman was grateful at the time but, at trial she betrayed him and testified against her savior. Because the woman originally told responding police she was in fear for her life and the man saved her, the man escaped prison time and ended his years long ordeal with just bankruptcy due to legal costs and lawyers. In the end, he lost his job and became unemployable too. He says nobody who googles his name sees past "gunman arrested" can hire him, because nobody reads anything of the facts of the case. Then there's the recent example of a fellow in New York City. He stepped in to rescue women passengers from the depravations of a crazed subway bum. He's been arrested, pilloried in the press and is facing serious prison. No. Despite being behooved to by birth, modern men have been conditioned by current year thinking to carefully resist the urge of toxic masculinity that is the desire to help strangers, especially females.

We truly live in an age of leaders without leadership, justice system without the spirit of justice, academics without honesty, economics without foundations and lives without meaningfulness.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

You know what to do then.

@Rockah0lic

5 ай бұрын

@@jmcc2275 we might know, we might not. It needs to be said and walked in. Men need examples.

Sometimes moral courage is harder to show than physical courage. We fear death, but we fear exclusion just as much. It's why many people commit suicide rather than face disgrace and dishonor.

Most people are selfish cowards, not merely cowards.

I’ve seen Douglas on a lot of shows. I really admire him for speaking truth to power. A much needed voice for the world we live in these days.

@tonyclifton2230

5 ай бұрын

What nonsense. He is just a right wing shill. Trotted out to give the same talking points as sean hannity or jordon peterson.

There was a time when men would step in to stop vile behaviour in public without thinking twice. It's my observation that these days they don't, because they have good reason to believe the law will subsequently focus on them, not on the perpetrator.

Pastiche. This is what I love about Douglas Murray. Each time I listen to or read him, my vocabulary expands.

@Tusitala1967

5 ай бұрын

I knew the word from studying literature, but it's application here is profound.

There’s a good reason to not interfere with a mugging - the DA will actually prosecute you if you seriously injure the mugger but will let the mugger go free. You will also open yourself to a lawsuit with all the financial burden that entails. If there’s anyone to blame for the current state of affairs, it’s the Democratic prosecutors and their insane policies.

I discovered this during Covid. I thought I must be neither in the top, nor bottom per cent of thinkers previous to Covid. I thought a few people were very smart, a few people were very dumb, and that most poeple were in the middle. How wrong I was. It's far more concerning that most can be nudged behaviourally (Milgram et. Al.) than even the possibility of lunatic leaders.

@paranoiadev

5 ай бұрын

Douglas was one of the ones nudged by COVID.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂. 🤦🏻‍♂️ You get all that on “ before skool” ?🤦🏻‍♂️

@katepenk3401

5 ай бұрын

What does "nudged by covid" mean, precisely. @@paranoiadev

I agree with Douglas about people being cowards, here in the UK I've seen thieves and thugs attacking security and shops and no one even bothered to call the police for simply help.

@meatyo

5 ай бұрын

Yeah. Thats called the bystander effect.

As a career soldier this conversation resonates. I felt it was my duty to join up. Quoting Jordan Peterson, I think a lot of people are afraid to ‘Pick up their damned cross.’

@bigz5262

5 ай бұрын

What if someone else’s “cross” is to stand up to your government?

@Masaq_TM

5 ай бұрын

@@bigz5262 then they should do that. You should do what you think is right.

@bigz5262

5 ай бұрын

@@Masaq_TM I do appreciate your service but don’t think that just because someone didn’t join that makes them a coward

@Masaq_TM

5 ай бұрын

@@bigz5262 Thank you BigZ. I’m not saying anyone should join up and these days I certainly wouldn’t recommend it. But it was my calling. Your journey will obviously be completely different to mine. I’m just talking about accepting responsibility. Willingly. Whatever form that responsibility takes.

@Masaq_TM

5 ай бұрын

@@bigz5262 and I’m definitely not calling people cowards if they don’t join up. We are all wired differently.

You guys are some of the best kind of people God bless

Finding courageous people is very difficult. Most people I know are total sellouts to the status quo and afraid to challenge what is wrong in society. In my professional experience I became a consultant because working in corporation required that one fit in and not challenge their leaders and peers when needed, and I typically challenge and push for change when required in my life and everything I do so I left and thrived as a professional not having to toe the party line in my work and the way I partnered with organizations. After working with over 100 companies as a consultant I have witnessed that the lack of courage to challenge the status quo is everywhere and in most people. It seems to be the natural instinct in most humans. So where are these other courageous people and how does one find them?

@SupaHoon

5 ай бұрын

Are you a management consultant? Sounds like my kind of thing

@James_36

5 ай бұрын

People cannot be expected to risk their family livelihoods, there is no assurance they will get the same job with the same pay etc..... leaders need to lead the correct way end of story really. We have the wrong leadership and that is not the fault of the everyday worker really. They could risk their finances, lose their partners and kids etc all for trying to speak up. Then who cares about them? this is not cowardice but wise decision making. You know what happens when you speak up today? marginalized, potentially fired, career prospects destroying and the realization your "friends" will not die on a hill to save you.

@neasahayes6044

5 ай бұрын

It is true almost all of humankind have become cowards.

@bardmadsen6956

5 ай бұрын

We live in the shadows and gave up showing the lemmings, they won't listen. I learned how this world really works, forced into homelessness in high school, forty five years ago. The powers that be proved it, that they manipulate the vast majority of sheepeople that won't listen to reason. To me, it is amazing of all this talk of how the kittens have opened their eyes, I know for a fact ya'll haven't come close yet to understanding. I guess sheep have to live it to get it, wait till you realize that the authorities are all in on it also. It is sort of like the film Training Day but a lot bigger, I bet most who watch it don't even see the real story. The cop goes to the leaders, the real criminals, and asks permission. It is closer to a documentary than an action movie. It is about sympathetic magic, propitiation to bring on the better next life, except it is natural, not debauchery, and space debris has no ethics which cyclically destroys, there is no end of all ends. I guess one would have to comprehend my work. Even the scientists are complicit, they go out of their way to obfuscate my message, actually it is our message, stating that stone monuments do not exist and that all of The Tas Tepeler Culture, Gobekli Tepe, is devoid of symbolism! It is just "decoration", move along, nothing to see here. The etymology of Anthropology is The Human Story and they don't even know it! They are sure the comet and superbolide are our "inner dragons" and all of the story is just a fabrication. Best just hope for a CME, but they know how to do it the old school way.

Yes, most people are cowards, they will complain loudly but will not just stand up for what is right. That’s why the anonymity of the internet is perfect for most.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

….like you obviously.

OMG i adore you Douglas!!!!!!!!!! I'm a straight, middle-aged chubby Canadian mom of 4 sons. You give me hope for the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bless you Douglas. ❤❤❤

Douglas Murray is a legend.

I think cowardice and laziness have become the norm in today’s society. It’s rare to find someone who I could classify as a man these days! The strong not only don’t protect the weak these days; but, appear literally oblivious to the concept and morality that makes us human. 😮

@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv

5 ай бұрын

It’s because the people you are talking down about in this comment literally get treated like subhumans every day and then expected to save people that despise them that can’t save themselves weak men aren’t masculine men sure but it’s pretty pathetic to hang shit on men that aren’t strong just because they are men most guys would just get their ass kicked that’s the honest truth and for nothing in these scenarios because they aren’t trained fighters or even know the first thing about fighting and could get seriously hurt or killed all to try help someone that hates them or atbeast just dosnt like them lol that’s the reality of where society is and is heading in todays times

I like that quote, most people have just downloaded opinions which are not their own.

The part of history we are currently in, will be remembered as the time when people talked about everything that was wrong, but did nothing about it. Talk, Discuss, Analyse, Criticise, Examine, Complain, but do nothing. There are 2 reasons for this, 1- people can make a lot of money on social media talking about the world and 2- There is nobody with the courage, expertise or wisdom to lead us out of the chaos and back into normality. We all know what is wrong and these speakers remind us everyday, but the Douglas Murrays of the world, cannot lead us out. But you can buy their books.

You guys give me goosebumps every time i hear you. LIFE LESS ORDINARY

Don't be a coward to speak truth. No matter who it shines a light on,

I love Douglas Murray. I don't always agree with him, but he's bright as hell and often makes a fair point even when I feel he's not right.

"Surround yourself with courageous people" ~Murray YES💯🌟🙌🙏

@skyhappy

5 ай бұрын

Calm down with the emojis

@moniquebode1655

5 ай бұрын

Douglas Murray is the voice of reason in a crazy mixed up society we now live in

Douglas is courageous.

@lewreed1871

5 ай бұрын

I'm a banana.

@kiely4561

5 ай бұрын

He’s verbally courageous, however I’m not sure Douglas and his middle class accent would be the one to stand up and be counted on a subway amidst adversity, I could be wrong but talking a good game isn’t the same as playing the game, all men think they’d take action if the situation warrants it, nobody really knows if they can though until they’re put in that situation.

@samueldelaney385

5 ай бұрын

@@kiely4561 Douglas lives in America. If he lives in a red state, then he’d be a good guy with a weapon, guns are the great equalizer, the most demure thing, when properly trained, properly practiced has a chance to live much longer.

@lewreed1871

5 ай бұрын

@@kiely4561 He'd be as quiet as a cadavre and he'd wet himself if someone "amidst adversity" even looked at him.

@wattlebough

5 ай бұрын

@@kiely4561 This is for Douglas Murray as much as anyone else: get training. A MINIMUM of twice a week for three years. Muay Thai Judo Boxing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Gracie Survival Tactics) Krav Maga Freestyle Wrestling Sambo Don’t waste your time with anything else. If it’s legal to conceal carry, get an Sig P320 X-Compact 9mm or similar with a Safariland IWB retention holster. And train regularly. Look up Shivworks with Craig Douglas or Active Self Protection for their courses in the US. Also carry less-than-lethal if it’s lawful in your area. Pom OC Pepper Spray and a clinch pick knife or similar, and train with them. Learn the laws around self defence in your country or state. And learn and regularly revise your first aid skills, especially dealing with traumatic bleeding. Learn to use a quality tourniquet (Beware of cheap asian made tourniquets that fail. Refer to Mountain Man Medical for quality tourniquets made in the USA). Learn how to wound pack with haemostatic gauze. These are skills that will require lifelong maintenance and upkeep. Get to it.

In Brazil it is possible to predict how the supreme court judges will vote EVERY TIME. I wonder why

I love to listen to you and Douglas talking common sense. All too rare these days.

The repercussions here in the UK for saying what you think, for daring to raise your head above the parapet and let your personality bloom are all too real if you're a rare flower from another climate. I'm not cowardly but holy smokes, my battered sense of self preservation was like a fence being pissed on by a dog all through 2023. I have no interest in getting fired from my job, getting a bike lock in my face, encouraging my house to get firebombed, getting visited by the Old Bill and getting a criminal record just for, "speaking my truth", ahem. I have to choose my battles and in doing so, am living this oddball double life. Like almost every peppery, creative iconoclast raconteur reading this. Easy to sound like a horse-mounted medieval warrior ready for battle when you're leaving a trail of fiery letters behind you online, but life off the digital battlefield is quite another matter. What a state...

"At the bottom of not a little of the bravery that appears in the world, there lurks a miserable cowardice. Men will face powder and steel because they have not the courage to face public opinion." ~Edwin Hubbel Chapin

@gerryh6385

5 ай бұрын

Certainly explains how young men are pushed into wars like vietnam. Each of them made a decision to either face the social cost of being a draft dodger or the smaller but very real risk of physical harm in being conscripted.

Most people are emotional cowards

I could listen to you two gentleman for hours, thanks for your common sense and wisdom. Douglas Murray is a true treasure.

We all need a friend like Douglas ...my mother was was the most courageous woman i know. She taught me well. Stand up for what is right, even if you stand alone. And i have, many times.

I don't think it's cowardice, rather it's choosing your battles. The consequences for stating the wrong opinion can be utterly devastating. Why destitute yourself for something that you are not really that interested in. I think people will stand up when it's something they truly care for, rather than for something that's just an annoyance. If you are going to be ruined, better it be for something that truly is important for you. Especially as making a stand on something frivolous may massively reduce your reach later to speak about something that is vital. Part of me think much of what is going on atm is precisely that, creating traps for people that remove their ability to speak about something important.

@RobDaCajun

5 ай бұрын

Have you by chance read Robert Green’s 48 Rules of Power? It definitely shows the folies of blindly speaking your opinion.

@zelig1799

5 ай бұрын

@@RobDaCajunYes, I have. Although it has been many years since I last read it.

@annetta594

5 ай бұрын

What Douglas Murray stands up for could never be more important!

@RobDaCajun

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@zelig1799I thought so from your response. I’ve got it on my bookshelf and found it eye opening. I may not act in some of the ways described in it. I definitely keep myself of others and how they act now.

@justachannel8600

5 ай бұрын

I think at the point where stating the wrong opinion (and let's be honest here, often it's not an opinion, it's just the truth) is dangerous you have already lost. Bullies only get worse over time. It's true though, that you have to pick your battles.

Living life from the inside out instead of outside in. I love listening to good conversation! It seems to be a dying art.

If you don’t succeed at your first choice, find a different way to do the same thing in a different way. Just don’t give up.

Thank you for that content! In these 10 min of conversation there was way more content than all my conversations for the past 5 years and that is including those with my therapists.

Most people dont know if they are cowards or not, because they haven't taken risks or done anything dangerous or challenging. You have to go outside your comfort zone to find out what you're about.

Thank you for all you do both of you👍👍👍👍

Indeed, most are cowards, and ppl against what he's saying are intimated and feel called out.

Great insights. I do have a vision of my life. I follow it to some degree but no where near to my full satisfaction. The only thing stopping me is courage. I will change this to the best of my ability.

Douglas Murray. Best reporter. In the world ❤🎉❤🎉

Most people are not the people they think they are - Everybody wants to do Captain stuff until there is Captain stuff to do....ie Bystander effect/ Bystander apathy..

Remember in places like New York, the authorities will try to send you to prison for decades if you intervene to help someone who is being attacked.

@evanduquette

5 ай бұрын

It's simple: Don't live in New York

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

Is that right? Name cases where has happened.

@incurableromantic4006

5 ай бұрын

@@jmcc2275 Daniel Penny Want to humiliate yourself again?

"hearing my better self clearing his throat in the room next door" WOW

Not living your authentic life is a slow death

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

How old are you?

"Outsourced thinking" -- perfect!

Most People Are Cowards ? Sadly , In My Life this has been Mainly True !

@wattlebough

5 ай бұрын

This is for Douglas Murray as much as anyone else: get training. A MINIMUM of twice a week for three years. Muay Thai Judo Boxing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Gracie Survival Tactics) Krav Maga Freestyle Wrestling Sambo Don’t waste your time with anything else. If it’s legal to conceal carry, get an Sig P320 X-Compact 9mm or similar with a Safariland IWB retention holster. And train regularly. Look up Shivworks with Craig Douglas or Active Self Protection for their courses in the US. Also carry less-than-lethal if it’s lawful in your area. Pom OC Pepper Spray and a clinch pick knife or similar, and train with them. Learn the laws around self defence in your country or state. And learn and regularly revise your first aid skills, especially dealing with traumatic bleeding. Learn to use a quality tourniquet (Beware of cheap asian made tourniquets that fail. Refer to Mountain Man Medical for quality tourniquets made in the USA). Learn how to wound pack with haemostatic gauze. These are skills that will require lifelong maintenance and upkeep. Get to it.

@skippylippy547

5 ай бұрын

We're doomed.

I’ve definitely had to pull back from KZread because it feeds you similar content and creates this group think regardless of which algorithm your being fed. I want to be an independent thinker. A rational thinker. I unsubscribed from premium because I was so addicted.

@lonewolfandcub668

5 ай бұрын

Turn your search history off. It forces you to search

I really respect Douglas Murray. Plain and simple.

So inspiring !

Great conversation. I am a Bible believing Christian, and I often fear that when the time comes for me to step up and be a champion I may act like a coward. But that is not so much fear of the world, more a case of fear that God will be disappointed in how I respond in a tough situation. So, like Douglas said, I surround myself with strong people, especially from a spiritual point of view.

"Outsourced thinking". Love that term

Love Douglas Murray .

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

“Surround yourself by courageous people.”

Prescribed opinions. Spot on !

Most of the squaddies I served with were worried that when the shit hit the fan they'd find out that they were a coward, as was I , I'm an old shit now and we found we weren't. They were as scared as I was during the moment but they never backed down and they're mostly still around. Doing what you consider to the be the right thing does has consequences though, I've spent time in a police cell but was never charged. I cant say that was very comfortable though, the other guy got to spend some time in a hospital, I guess that wasn't comfortable for him but he started it and he was in the wrong. On the civvy side of life I've binned good jobs because it was a terrible working environment for others and I didn't want to be part of it even though I wasn't directly effected by the "woke" HR environment but I couldn't change it so why stay there making them money? The world we live in today is pretty fu%ked and the only people that can change it is us, stop supporting the bad and work for the good. Not easy though.

birds of a feather fly together so you should not be surprised you surround yourself with courageous people!!

You make so much sense

I resonate deeply with this topic. I was one of the only military service member in my unit that refused to take the covid 19 vaccine. I was ostracized, and given disciplinary action. Was given an ultimatum to comply or get discharged. Doing the right thing felt like the wrong thing. I'm glad I stood my ground and honored my oath

@TheDrunkHamster

5 ай бұрын

And now they are begging to have people like you back in the Army now that manning rates are even worse off. Stay strong, history will remember

@walkerblack8403

5 ай бұрын

People needlessly get sick and die due to this kind of ignorance

@jirkazalabak1514

5 ай бұрын

I think it needs to be said that in many cases, the group is right. This is one of them. Seriously, of all the different hills to die on, THIS is the one you chose?

@lemongate4869

5 ай бұрын

Good on you.

@andyusfca

5 ай бұрын

lol....this is something to brag about???

Courage grows strong at a wound

Murray is a Hero to Me

On the topic of doing the right thing in the subway, in NY that person gets charged with assault

@skippylippy547

5 ай бұрын

Yes indeed. We're so doomed.

What you were saying about being pushed away from a real life that's the way I've been feeling specially since the covid thing

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

See a doctor.

Currently reading his book “War on the West” while receiving the ding notification 😄

@penny3427

5 ай бұрын

Me too, fantastic book.

Pastiche. Such a great word

People would usually not adopt contradictory views by thinking for themselves. A contradiction in someone's worldview means that they have 'clicked' at least once and downloaded an opinion that is not theirs.

Good bits in here

Truth. Most people will trade freedom for comfort.

I would go as far as saying "Almost all people are cowards" or "There are barely any people left who are not cowards".

Re: "“Most People Are Cowards” - Douglas Murray!..So true! Henry David Thoreau :-"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" is an observation that most people live an empty life caused by unfulfilling work, lack of leisure time and misplaced values; money, possessions and accolades"!

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

When you quote people you stopped thinking for yourself.

@kenhickford6581

5 ай бұрын

When I quote people , its because I recognise they have encapsulated my own thoughts in pros far better than I ever could. A man has to know his limitations, a fact you will discover if you live that long enough to admit! Lol!@@jmcc2275

‘Download an opinion’ brilliant

Some interesting points.

Definitely terrible feeling and pure frustration. No matter how you try, you don’t always get what you wish for. And then you feel stuck in the eternal rat race with zombie robotic sheep, pretending you’re one of those apocalyptic energy sucking beasts, cuz this is the only way to survive among them. But yeah, Douglas is inspiring and gives some hope to those with common sense and sanity. Just keep going, never give up on your talent, your dreams, your life.

@jmcc2275

5 ай бұрын

Pretentious nonsense.

@SaBiNuKi

5 ай бұрын

@@jmcc2275 thanks for your kind words. You’re a gift to humanity! 🙊

Just thanks

The reason for this, at least in part, is that the average person puts more stock into how they're perceived by others, rather than adhering to their established convictions if these beliefs happen to be unpopular.

Douglas Murray👍👍👍

8:11 - love this guy

Its true, id run away from them.

Quite possibly, the most intelligent conversation I'm hearing. Between two intelligent men. Chris.....you've got to organise more interviews like this. On another note.... Douglas is a class of his own. 🎉