The Ruler Trick

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David gives a clear demonstration of his famous 'Ruler Trick'

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  • @bobjones3027
    @bobjones3027 Жыл бұрын

    So glad to see this classic pop up again. David’s wisdom is a timeless classic.

  • @D4u2s0t
    @D4u2s0t3 жыл бұрын

    The only person who can simply call it "The Ruler Trick"

  • @Simonfrios
    @Simonfrios2 жыл бұрын

    This man just as well might have been a surgeon. God bless you sir, and rest in piece.

  • @ianjay3286
    @ianjay32862 жыл бұрын

    So saddened to hear of David's passing. He will be looking down on us all using his famous Ruler Trick with a smile on his face. God bless . RIP

  • @RichMcCabe
    @RichMcCabe7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David. I am a Cosman workshop student and he has pretty much drilled this into my head. But nice to hear it from the legend who created it :)

  • @MrSbenn69
    @MrSbenn697 жыл бұрын

    Hi David, great video and detailed look at the ruler trick, thanks for sharing!

  • @theatticwoodworker4594
    @theatticwoodworker4594 Жыл бұрын

    fantastic tip and method which revolutionised my understanding of sharpening thanks

  • @maheshsuthar2184
    @maheshsuthar2184 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you David for your valuable knowledge and skills

  • @MattSoares42
    @MattSoares426 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @puppoopainter
    @puppoopainter7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mr Charlesworth.How nice of you.

  • @melove2461
    @melove24613 жыл бұрын

    You are like an attainable wood God to me, i’m afraid I shouldn’t be watching you until I improve more!

  • @fredpierce6097
    @fredpierce609710 ай бұрын

    I don’t mind the time outs for David’s sighs and ruminations. I do my best thinking during those lapses. Why do people think that a mouth like a machine gun is more conducive to learning?

  • @mydearriley

    @mydearriley

    3 ай бұрын

    tiktok time limits

  • @gbwildlifeuk8269

    @gbwildlifeuk8269

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@mydearrileytiktok time limits on youtube?

  • @gbwildlifeuk8269

    @gbwildlifeuk8269

    Ай бұрын

    @fredpierce6097 Davids sighs and ruminations were his way of catching his breath. He had COPD.

  • @MarcusRefusius

    @MarcusRefusius

    3 күн бұрын

    I’ve had COPD Asthma/Emphysema for years. I can very much relate.

  • @fredpierce6097

    @fredpierce6097

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MarcusRefusius god bless

  • @boozoochavis7506
    @boozoochavis75065 жыл бұрын

    Well done that man ... a good bit of fore thought almost always saves time during the actual process. Thank you for posting this, no matter what the punters have to say - the rest of us appreciate this bit of information!

  • @rlevitta
    @rlevitta5 жыл бұрын

    I learned of you from Rob Cosman and I use the ruler trick all the time for plane blades. I'm new to woodworking and therefore have no preconceived notions - lucky me. All I know is that my blades are very sharp and I can quickly get back to work. What more does anyone need?

  • @danielgeng2306
    @danielgeng23064 жыл бұрын

    The legendary ruler trick shown by the master ~

  • @12bravo68
    @12bravo687 жыл бұрын

    This man changed how I do woodworking. His DVDs are without equal....

  • @Thom4123
    @Thom41236 жыл бұрын

    Thank You so much for the information.

  • @curoimacdaire3630
    @curoimacdaire36307 жыл бұрын

    What a pleasure it is to see the man himself demonstrating his famous ruler trick, which I find indispensable. Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @bradjoyce3137
    @bradjoyce31372 жыл бұрын

    My condolences to David’s family and friends. RIP David

  • @xyzr_3808

    @xyzr_3808

    2 жыл бұрын

    He died?

  • @MisterBurtonshaw

    @MisterBurtonshaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xyzr_3808 Passed away on Sunday sadly.

  • @robertbrunston5406
    @robertbrunston54066 жыл бұрын

    I know the ruler trick it's an old trick but I have not seen anyone advanced sharpening techniques quite the same way as you! Thank you for sharing.

  • @TheMrchuck2000
    @TheMrchuck20005 жыл бұрын

    BRILLIANT!

  • @labrat7357
    @labrat73577 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video, it is always good to hear something from the primary source. An old cabinet maker told me that he used to wipe his freshly sharpened blades on clean leather scrapes or cardboard for only a few strokes not to sharpen but to remove any residual oil, metal particles and abrasive from the blade. I often wonder if this is what stropping was intended to be and not what it has become with all the compounds and pastes. All the best.

  • @przybyla420

    @przybyla420

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think so. Stropping makes great sense on a straight razor or gouges, and is an old technique. It doesn’t do much without compound, though, contrary to what some say.

  • @doadoanahtoto740
    @doadoanahtoto7406 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr Charlesworth, thank you for the idea, it's good for the bevel up blade. Would highly appreciate if you could kindly advise how to setup the bevel down blade with the chip breaker. Thanks a lot Kind Regards

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Doadoa, This is quite a long topic which you can see in my plane sharpening DVD. David

  • @itspeterpanbitch
    @itspeterpanbitch4 жыл бұрын

    great video and instructions! thank you for taking the time to explain this. is that a rotary phone in the background??

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes !!!

  • @738polarbear
    @738polarbear6 жыл бұрын

    I didnt believe at first but Rob Cosman made me decide to try it after watching his results AND YES it does work.

  • @brianm.9451

    @brianm.9451

    6 жыл бұрын

    738polarbear I was skeptical as well but with Deneb, Tom Fidgen, and other big name guys throw weight behind it, I had to try it for myself. Let’s just say that I can’t believe the number of hours I’ve spent flattening backs and bevels. This has not only saved me time but it also made sharpening more enjoyable and predictable.

  • @rosshollinger8097
    @rosshollinger80975 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your thorough explanation and demonstration. You are correct, some others' demonstrations on this subject can most certainly be called cringe worthy.

  • @johnlovell7308
    @johnlovell73083 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David

  • @johnpotter4750

    @johnpotter4750

    3 жыл бұрын

    I must say when explained, it all makes perfect sense to me, I'm not an Engineer nor even a Woodworker, my field is elec/electronics and have always noted the stubborn burr thrown up on a metal edge. Off then On a stone gently seems ideal (with care to unnatural stone wear at the edge ! ?) I Thank You Sir.

  • @b1j
    @b1j5 жыл бұрын

    David, I've been a fan of yours for years. Recently I saw you using your blue pad, so I bought one from the supplier you named. I'm having difficulty keeping it from sliding around when it gets the least bit damp. How are you keeping yours so stable?

  • @davidcharlesworth6354

    @davidcharlesworth6354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bob, by keeping the excess water under control. No water under the mat.

  • @brianm.9451
    @brianm.94516 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr. Charlesworth. Does the ruler trick apply to things like combination plane blades (like the Stanley 55) and shoulder plane blades?

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brian, Ruler Trick is certainly good for shoulder plane blades. I don't have a Stanley 55 so not so sure about them. David

  • @danthechippie4439
    @danthechippie44397 жыл бұрын

    hi David, I enjoyed this video very much. I am a carpenter in Ireland and as a hobby I started my main instead in furniture making. I purchased a lot of hand tools from Rob Cosman and lie Nielsen and I enjoy working with them. can I say I learned the ruler trick from Deneb of lie Nielsen and I wanted to thank you for this ingenious method as I use it every day, however to sharpen I noticed you drag the blade where as I push and drag. I take it this is wrong? also I am looking for an educational video which deals with the piston fit drawer, everything from building the carcass to the drawer itself and I wondered if you had a video that covers this area? Cheers Dan

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Thank you. Nothing wrong with pushing! I drag because it helps my beginners not to dig corners of narrow chisels in. Yes I have done a drawer making and fitting DVD, see my site, www.davidcharlesworth.co.uk. David

  • @luispacheco8745
    @luispacheco87455 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir

  • @bigkiv47
    @bigkiv473 жыл бұрын

    I love how you call Rob Cosman "more adventurous..." I bet he feels chuffed about that :)

  • @SusieQsDairyBar
    @SusieQsDairyBar3 жыл бұрын

    I like how this guy takes the time to explain his methods with trig and such and is so kind about explaining why all these young cats a few things. Like this guy has nothing to prove...It's like watching David Attenborough tell me about nature like who's going to argue with this guy?

  • @kz.irudimen

    @kz.irudimen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh there will always be people who think they know better, don't worry :D But yes people like Mr Charlesworth or Mr Sellers are wonderful teachers and we are lucky to have access to all their content. It's mindblowing to have all this absolutely top quality info available any time for free. I'm barely middle aged and I remember a time where it was NOT easy to get top notch info like that, the internet does have its advantages.

  • @SimopsAus
    @SimopsAus7 жыл бұрын

    David, do you still use the Tormek to initially sharpen the blade then move to what you have demonstrated?

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I do virtually all my grinding on the Tormek. David

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker99994 жыл бұрын

    The ruler trick works and it is efficient even though I do not use it often because of my OCD (I am working on it). The important thing about the ruler trick is to make sure the edges of your waterstones are chamfered and aren't not uneven which happens often even after flattening your stone (from experience).

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, keeping bevels on the edges of your Waterstones is essential. If you don't, edges will crumble, and chip.

  • @snowwalker9999

    @snowwalker9999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidCharlesworth I have been checking youtube everyday hoping you would release new videos. I hope all is well.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@snowwalker9999 Yes!. My new DVD on the Through Dovetail has just been released and is available from my website shop or Lie-Nielsen. Happy Christmas David.

  • @snowwalker9999

    @snowwalker9999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidCharlesworth Thank you, and Happy Christmas to you as well

  • @b1j
    @b1j3 жыл бұрын

    David, for the naysayers: your two-thirds of a degree estimate is a conservative upper limit. It would only reach that high an angle if your stone is only 2.5" wide and you pull back 10 mm from the edge. With a 3" stone the back angle is down to about half a degree ±0.05º.

  • @ChristiannTyler

    @ChristiannTyler

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just asked that question.. my stone is 2-1/4” Will this create too steep of an angle? (First hand plane I’ve ever setup) need all the help I can get. Thanks.

  • @hassleoffa
    @hassleoffa3 жыл бұрын

    I remember being a woodworker with hair ... makes me feel nostalgic.

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk7 жыл бұрын

    Hello! It is nice to see such a renowned craftsman sharing his knowledge. The times we live in! Regarding actual sharpening strokes. Do you advise against push strokes? I've spent a lot of money on my waterstone and it hurts me inside when I hear that grinding sound on the push stroke. The smudge also tells me waterstones don't like it at all. I'm talking about a 1000/3000 combination stone.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    As you see, I always pull. David

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk7 жыл бұрын

    A tip. Many desktop printers contain circa 8 mm wide steel strips of circa 0.5 mm thickness.

  • @greenleaf239
    @greenleaf2394 жыл бұрын

    Does this work for a cambered blade? It seems like only the middle part of the blade edge would contact the stone surface because of the edge's curvature.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it works fine for the slight camber which I use on my 5 1/2. David

  • @chm1701
    @chm17013 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for clearing this up. Although, may I ask, where I would find a 0.5mm ruler, or which brand do you use, please? I can only seem to find 2mm and 1.2mm. Thanks in advance.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chris, I use a cheap , stainless, 6" ruler from Axminster power tools. Best wishes, David

  • @vizsli

    @vizsli

    3 жыл бұрын

    www.lie-nielsen.com/products/measuring-marking-lie-nielsen-6-steel-rule- www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/marking-and-measuring/rules/74162-lee-valley-pocket-rule www.fine-tools.com/vogel-ruler.html

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vizsli Thank you very much for that useful data. David

  • @MyVinylRips
    @MyVinylRips6 жыл бұрын

    This very interesting. I'll definitely try this. Thank you so much for you concise and thorough presentation. However, as somwhat of a novice, I wonder why one can go from 800 to 10000 grit without stopping at, say 5000 in between?

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Klaus, The 800 g stone (fairly coarse) makes it quick to reestablish the edge (i.e. get a wire edge). I then raise the honing angle by approx. 2 degrees. This means that only the tip of the edge is getting polished. This always takes no more than 4 gentle strokes! My method is concerned with speed. If we don't have a quick method we are likely to put sharpening off, which is a bad thing! If the angle were not changed, polishing would take more strokes. David

  • @MyVinylRips

    @MyVinylRips

    6 жыл бұрын

    David, thank you for explaning. It get it now. I did not take into consideration that you raise the angle. Although it feels like a radical move for me, considering I'm quite new to this, I am going to try it. The more I think of it, the more it makes sense to achieve a super sharp cutting edge without spending a lot of time honing the backside. Thanks again for getting back to me!

  • @krzysztofkocierba8537
    @krzysztofkocierba85374 жыл бұрын

    Richard Maguire - The English woodworker - aid he sometimes spits on his whetstones. #Me too. ;) Imagine David spitting on a sharpening stone.

  • @werner134897
    @werner1348976 жыл бұрын

    I suppose only use for bevel down planes? Bevel up plane blades need to sit perfectly flush with their flat side on the bed. Although on second thought this is probably also a non issue as the cutting edge including the tiny back bevel is protruding well passed the bed (mouth) edge. I’ll give it a try on my veritas bevel up planes (I own no beve dwn planes).

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Werner, The polished area never gets wider than 1mm or so. The method is suitable for both types of Plane.

  • @stevej8173
    @stevej81737 жыл бұрын

    This is a great technique providing it's properly done. One thing troubles me however, how does one effectively deal with wear bevels on the back of the blade? I find they can make polishing away the wire edge a progressively more arduous affair with each repeated sharpening. It would interesting to hear whether David periodically finds the need to re-flatten the back of his blades on coarser stones, eliminating the small band of polish and also any aggregate wear bevel?

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Steve, I don't find I need to re-flatten the back, but I do resharpen frequently, so wear bevel does not get big. Good question. David

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve, I guess I avoid large wear bevels by resharpening frequently. Good Question! David

  • @Belfast70
    @Belfast706 жыл бұрын

    What mesurement on the ruler is 30° and 25° could you clarify . Many thanks

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tony, In the L-N guide projection for 30 degrees is 30mm. For 25 degrees it is 42mm. David

  • @MisterBurtonshaw
    @MisterBurtonshaw2 жыл бұрын

    RIP David.

  • @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
    @DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo3 ай бұрын

    For those hard of hearing, or not familiar with pronunciation by an Englishman, David's 10,000 grit ceramic waterstone is made by Ohishi.

  • @jimw544
    @jimw5443 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David for the ruler trick and for your explanation. I just successfully sharpened my first chisel and flatting the back was painful. :) It stuck in the mud many time and it is only a 1" chisel.

  • @siagizmobass386

    @siagizmobass386

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jim, you don’t want to use the ruler trick on the back of chisels. It is a technique primarily for plane blades which usually require A LOT of honing to flatten the entire back (as you can imagine a 1” chisel vs a 2/38” plane blade). However, for a chisel you want to be able to register the back flat to the work so you know exactly where it will start to cut and that it will cut flat. Unless you have a chisel exclusively for chipping away wood and plan to never use it for paring tasks, I suppose the trick could be applied in that case but it usually isn’t that much work to flatten an inch or inch and a half from the back edge so you get that flat reference edge to use and the entire back doesn’t need to be flattened so it really doesn’t seem like the little time savings is worth leaving a chisel not able to be used for paring tasks and I think at the end of this video he even had it written (not to be used on chisels but I’m not positive) I hope my long winded reply makes some sense haha!

  • @jimw544

    @jimw544

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siagizmobass386 thanks for the comment. I didn't suggest it be used on a chisel.

  • @nodnalneyugn8753
    @nodnalneyugn87534 жыл бұрын

    this video reminds me of those bureaucrats from the movie, " A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

  • @enricotornotti2883
    @enricotornotti28833 жыл бұрын

    It works also with bevel-down planes?

  • @davidcharlesworth6354

    @davidcharlesworth6354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. In fact I use it on all plane blades and scraper blades.

  • @stevesteve6545
    @stevesteve6545 Жыл бұрын

    Simply a way to only polish the part of the back of the blade that needs polishing, thereby saving loads of time and elbow grease. I wish I knew a way to do it for curved (e.g. moulding plane) blades.

  • @fr33dumb0

    @fr33dumb0

    5 ай бұрын

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  • @garypickering7981
    @garypickering79812 жыл бұрын

    Rest in peace

  • @richardc6932
    @richardc69324 жыл бұрын

    Hello David, would the substitution of a DMT 8000 grit diamond stone work just as well ? It sounds to me that you might be dedicated to water stones and I don’t have a fine Japanese water stone in my shop.

  • @rickhickman2730

    @rickhickman2730

    4 жыл бұрын

    As someone with the extra extra fine DMT stone, the "polish" from the DMT 8,000 grit would not match the polish of a true 8,000 grit "polishing" stone. I'm not David, but I can speak to the experience of both a diamond stone rated as a fine grit polisher, and a true polishing stone like a Shapton, or Ohishi as is mentioned in the video. The next best thing, would be lapping film at low microns (9,5,3,1,0.5 ((0.5 μ is unnecessary for mirror polished)) ) to replicate the polishing effect of a polishing stone. Another option, you could try diamond paste on dense hardwood/MDF, as a makeshift strop, this would again, replicate the effect of a fine polishing stone as demonstrated in the video.

  • @joeobrien196
    @joeobrien1965 жыл бұрын

    Could a motor mechanics feeler gauge be used?

  • @rickhickman2730

    @rickhickman2730

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would think so. 0.5 millimeters is going to be 0.5mil whether it's a feeler gauge, or, a thin rule.

  • @ChristiannTyler
    @ChristiannTyler2 жыл бұрын

    Does the width of the stone matter? Wouldn’t the degree change if you had a 2.25” stone vs a 2.5-3”?

  • @e139439

    @e139439

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope, as he said these are very small angles. I personally think no angle will matter unless you go beyond your chipbreaker tip line with this back bevel. And even if you do, yo can give a negative back bevel to the chipbraker as he mentioned.

  • @patmac3510

    @patmac3510

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. But negligible difference.

  • @finefurnituremaker5591
    @finefurnituremaker55917 жыл бұрын

    Hello David, I am a beginner DIY woodworker from India. I have been following your videos on ruler trick and also went through the chapters for the same in "Hand Tool Essentials". In India, the plane iron's we are having, back of which are not flat to a large extent, which I find very very time consuming to flatten. I am amazed by your methodology of ruler trick, and how quickly sharpening can be achieved, but again, I think I need to flatten back of plane iron to a significant degree for back bevel to appear in the last action of ruler trick. It takes hours and hours for me to flatten back(I am using Sigma power ceramic water-stone, and dmt duo sharp x-coarse for lapping it). Is there any way back flattening process can be quicker? or I need to resort import channel for A2 blades? Thanking in advance.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kingshuk, Out of flat plane blades do take a long time to prepare. Some people recommend 80 grit Aluminium Oxide paper to start with, (Stuck to a flat surface). One thing that helps me is to stick a small wooden handle, with double sided tape, close to the bevel. This provides a good grip and prevents the fingertips from being honed away! Best wishes, David

  • @finefurnituremaker5591

    @finefurnituremaker5591

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks David. This helps.

  • @alx252

    @alx252

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kingshuk Chakraborty if you have lots of out of plane tools, diamond sharpener are sometimes a good choice too. they stay flat and don't rip like sandpaper. long-term they are cheaper then.

  • @finefurnituremaker5591

    @finefurnituremaker5591

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks ALX

  • @chinthakawickramasinghe4879
    @chinthakawickramasinghe48792 жыл бұрын

    Can i use ruler trick on oil stones as well?

  • @e139439

    @e139439

    Жыл бұрын

    Method is not related to stone type, it's just creating an angle

  • @stephenpaddison5401
    @stephenpaddison54016 жыл бұрын

    If the ruler trick produces only 2/3 of a degree angle on the back of the plane blade, can you not use the same on a chisel? Conversely, if you advocate flattening and polishing the back (a least a cm or more) of a chisel, why not flatten and polish a similar amount on the back of a plane blade?

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stephen, you don't want to have to lift a chisel by 2/3 of a degree to cut straight. A chisel is jigged by its back. Backs of plane blades are different. They do need to be flat in width, but polishing takes far less time, and is more repeatable. Best wishes, David

  • @stephenpaddison5401

    @stephenpaddison5401

    6 жыл бұрын

    David: Thank you for your reply. Clearly, your ruler trick (which I have used with satisfaction) saves the work of flattening the back of a plane blade. However, once the back of the plane blade is perfectly flat and polished (on an 8000 or higher grit water stone) then sharpening and resharpening may be performed by simply honing the secondary and tertiary bevels (a few strokes) followed by removal of the burr on the polishing stone. With only a tiny 'back bevel' of 2/3 of a degree, if you register a full inch of your chisel on your wood, how much would you "have to lift a chisel ... to cut straight"? Only slightly more than 1/100"! I'm not, however, putting a back bevel on my chisels. Best wishes! Stephen

  • @leroy5007
    @leroy50073 жыл бұрын

    What grit of nagura stone are you using on your water stone

  • @davidcharlesworth6354

    @davidcharlesworth6354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just the one which comes with the King 10,000 stone.

  • @sparkfishes

    @sparkfishes

    3 жыл бұрын

    10 000 grit is on the end of the stone , but he does say 10 000 grit also.....but it is easily issued in the video

  • @blackfender100
    @blackfender1007 жыл бұрын

    I tried this a couple years ago when Rob Cosman showed it.I was skeptical.It is wonderful .I say if you are a nay sayer give it a go you won't be sorry.

  • @_trismegistus
    @_trismegistus3 жыл бұрын

    Any particular reason that you only pull the blade on the stone and not push as well?

  • @davidcharlesworth6354

    @davidcharlesworth6354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joey, for beginners there is a risk of tipping the blade and gouging the stone. I tend to get stuck in demonstration mode, but do also push sometimes.

  • @JeremyB8419
    @JeremyB84192 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't you do similarly with an unused card scraper on half the length of the stone, to prevent having to change the honing guide? Just set the honing guide to the right angle for the grinding portion, then put a card scraper under its' wheel to raise the angle by a degree or two to polish on the 10,000 grit. Could also use the same card scraper in place of the ruler.

  • @e139439

    @e139439

    Жыл бұрын

    First one ok but you'll wear your stone in a very concentradet area. And you can't use card scraper instead of a ruler, it has to be narrow to give you a shallow angle (8:04) , and you can't keep a wide card scraper hanging from side of the stone cause it'll tip off.

  • @patmac3510

    @patmac3510

    Жыл бұрын

    No. That would put the angle on the bevel side.

  • @GenePavlovsky

    @GenePavlovsky

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's a great idea for the bevel. For the "back microbevel" I think it's easier to use a narrow ruler (or a piece of shim stock).

  • @gooseberrylay
    @gooseberrylay6 жыл бұрын

    Hello David! Here you show us how to first sharpen the full bevel, followed by slightly raising the angle to sharpen only the tip of the bevel/blade. Assuming that is right, how would we proceed with sharpening the next time around? It seems to me that it would only be necessary to start at 'step two' of you procedure - the slightly raised angle. Many thanks!

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tomas, I don't sharpen the full bevel. The tool is generally ground at 25 degrees. A wire edge is produced at 30 or 33 degrees, This bevel is kept small. Edge is polished at 32 or 35 degrees. Hope this helps, David

  • @larsof54
    @larsof547 жыл бұрын

    I have looked and looked for a .5mm ruler but I can't seem to locate any. Suggestions please...

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Larry, You don't say where you are. In UK Axminster power tools have a stainless one for less than £2. In USA L-N have a nice one for $3. David

  • @larsof54

    @larsof54

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I should have mentioned that I live in Canada. Thanks for the two leads. LW

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Larry, I would have thought that Veritas would be almost certain to have such a ruler.

  • @WatchingPlanes165

    @WatchingPlanes165

    7 жыл бұрын

    Lee Valley sells a series of "Stainless Steel Cabinetmaker's Rules" (www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=32568&cat=1,43513). I use the 6" version for the ruler trick. It measures 0.022 inches in thickness, which corresponds to 0.56 mm, which in turn corresponds to a 0.42 degree "back bevel" [sorry, David!] when used across a 3 inch wide stone.

  • @steffenmain

    @steffenmain

    7 жыл бұрын

    dictum.com have all you need :D only quality

  • @JustAnotherDayToday
    @JustAnotherDayToday4 жыл бұрын

    Rob Cosman brought me here.

  • @welshknight1456
    @welshknight14562 жыл бұрын

    Many years ago, our technical college teacher used to say, It's not called a Ruler it's a Rule, Ceasar was a Ruler" Always made me chuckle.

  • @pat280356
    @pat2803566 жыл бұрын

    Lovely to watch, but 'counsels of perfection' for most of us who 'just want to plane something' see Paul Sellers on plane sharpening!

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well Patrick, planing becomes much more pleasurable with a sharp blade! The people coming on my short course have frequently not mastered this vital skill. They are always blown away by the performance and control which can be had from a properly prepared (fettled) plane. Another not inconsiderable point is that Paul works mostly with softwood. Glad you enjoyed it. David

  • @sausageseggandchips

    @sausageseggandchips

    5 жыл бұрын

    Patrick - I've tried both and whilst Paul's method does indeed work for him and many others, it is just a matter of preference. What I would say is that Paul's method is quite tricky on the very hard blades on more expensive tools, not least because they are very, very thick as well as wide (planes as opposed to chisels). Notwithstanding David's video which is in slow time, the above method is pretty quick too & of course works freehand (see Rob Cosman) or with jigs.

  • @shareddaros9533
    @shareddaros95336 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jesus I appreciate your divine knowledge.

  • @jassin1
    @jassin16 жыл бұрын

    Hi david, I feel you need to be seen by a Dr , your lungs maybe blocked, ps love your videos . ps please do not be offended.

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jas, thank you, I have a lung complaint and see a specialist regularly. David

  • @jassin1

    @jassin1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Take care of yourself , you are doing great work . mad as it sounds try and wear masks when around MDF .. and soft fibre crap.

  • @executive
    @executive Жыл бұрын

    why not chisels?

  • @lincolndickerson1293

    @lincolndickerson1293

    Жыл бұрын

    Because with a chisel you want to be able to hold the back of the chisel in a dovetail or half lap… against a wall off wood and have it meet squarely at the bottom. If you use a back bevel of any sort you cant get the a square corner at the bottom

  • @executive

    @executive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lincolndickerson1293 why not. the difference will be be a few micron.

  • @andyboxish4436

    @andyboxish4436

    Жыл бұрын

    @@executive I think the idea is that as the chisel is hammered/struck and is rapidly cutting through the wood, the 2/3 of a degree back bevel, while negligible in most other applications, may, and I repeat may because I am not sure myself, but it may steer the chisel off its intended path slightly.

  • @executive

    @executive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andyboxish4436 the path difference is imperceptible and you steer the chisel with your hand (for example it is sometimes desirable to undercut slightly )

  • @cwell2112

    @cwell2112

    6 ай бұрын

    @@executiveThe real reason is that you want to be able to use the flat back of the chisel as a reference for paring. If there is even a small back bevel, you need to raise the back off the workpiece in order to take a shaving, and that defeats the purpose of the back as a reference.

  • @robertfsautters1153
    @robertfsautters11537 жыл бұрын

    As masterful as David Charlesworth is, I still miss old Jim Kingshott!!

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jim was a friend and a fountain of knowledge. One of the last craftsmen who did a seven year apprenticeship. I was particularly impressed with the way he adopted Japanese tools. Best wishes, David

  • @richardfweeler2939
    @richardfweeler29393 жыл бұрын

    Must be a guitar player …..me thinks

  • @DavidCharlesworth

    @DavidCharlesworth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Richard, Lapsed I fear! David

  • @HelloNotMe9999
    @HelloNotMe99993 жыл бұрын

    You should look into a job in voiceover... David Attenborough is getting old and needs a successor.

  • @woodworker4063
    @woodworker40637 жыл бұрын

    David don't fall into the trap of pandering to the so called forum gurus as none of them actually make a living by making or teaching woodwork. None actually spend money on doing class run courses. Since Cohen has become your latest fanboy as he has tried with many others and responds to every post you make into which most of these threads turn into ego driven arguments.In my opinion the only reason you have made this vid is to set things straight for the forums. You are far more than this and I mean that from a woodworkers heart, I remember reading when Schwarz announced his was giving himself an early Christmas present that he was giving up reading forums and with even starting his own he after a year to give it a chance canned it. Christmas is coming.

  • @TheMrchuck2000
    @TheMrchuck2000 Жыл бұрын

    RIP, Mr. Charlesworth. Ruler trick is a great help in my sharpening. However, I’ve always found Charlesworth’s manner-precise, soft-spoken, thoughtfully s-l-o-w-w-w - either puts me to sleep, or makes me homicidal. If he and I shared a shop, one of us would be dead within a fortnight. I’m loud, foul-mouthed, impulsive, irritable, fast-talking, and… did I say LOUD? He’s entirely too fussy and anal-retentive in his approach, but his talents, skills, and inventiveness(es) are undeniable. But his “careful” pace makes me crazy. And he would find ME insufferable and brutish. SOLUTION: I play his videos at 1.5x speed, and my world changes! Suddenly, he’s chipper, energetic, dynamic! If you’re my type (irritable and irritating) I suggest you try this. The man knows what he’s talking about; he’s invaluable. (Just probably not that useful in a bar fight.)

  • @dale1956ties

    @dale1956ties

    Жыл бұрын

    The 1.5 playback speed is pure genius. Funny how many of the best ideas are dead simple and make you slap your forehead and say "WHY... didn't I think of that?!?"

  • @bobjones3027

    @bobjones3027

    Жыл бұрын

    Yours was the only 1.5-speed wisecrack that I actually enjoyed, thanks to your self-deprecating humor. Happy sharpening.

  • @benjamincrossman5937

    @benjamincrossman5937

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that he is speaking slowly in the video as he is trying to catch his breath- he wasn't well. I find him quite chipper and dynamic, he was so enthusiastic about the craft.

  • @leonpse

    @leonpse

    3 ай бұрын

    Have you read paul sellers blogs, extremely long winded and more like long trailers with mainly background information.

  • @youarenotme01
    @youarenotme01 Жыл бұрын

    i wish this fella was still alive so i could show him how i accomplish this same goal. he’d drop his method instantly. i originally learned this concept from him, but i refined it to be much easier and effective. full circle.

  • @patmac3510

    @patmac3510

    Жыл бұрын

    Talk is cheap

  • @CabinetFramingUK

    @CabinetFramingUK

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you accomplish the same goal then?

  • @twcmaker

    @twcmaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell us about your refined method.

  • @BOHANTHEFLESHGOD

    @BOHANTHEFLESHGOD

    Жыл бұрын

    Well what is it?

  • @bobjones3027

    @bobjones3027

    Жыл бұрын

    I too wish this fella was still with us. A kinder, more generous soul never drew breath.

  • @jimforgrave6365
    @jimforgrave63654 жыл бұрын

    Playback speed 1.5 ......youre welcome

  • @andrasv7905

    @andrasv7905

    3 жыл бұрын

    @1 New Notification Yes, it's rude

  • @bobjones3027

    @bobjones3027

    Жыл бұрын

    Attention span much?

  • @micks9155
    @micks91552 жыл бұрын

    It’s a rule not ruler. The Queens a ruler

  • @Spaceman_spliff

    @Spaceman_spliff

    2 жыл бұрын

    The queen doesn’t rule jack diddly, f the monarchy.

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