To me, this story always seemed like someone asked Tim Burton to write a romance 😅 She inspired a saying in Brazil, "agora Inês é morta"(now Ines is dead), meaning it's too late to do something about a situation. Great video ❤

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Haha, that's such a good description for the story! 😅 And I didn't know about the saying in Brazil, that's so interesting! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. 😊

@user-fg9xz4bz3b

6 ай бұрын

Pedro and Ines lived on through a play just like Richard iii.

Oh yeah, Fernando was a bad king😭 Indeed, had it not been for João de Avis (and the resilience of Lisbon's inhabitants and the famous "Padeira de Aljubarota"), Portugal might no longer be...

@cg8397

6 ай бұрын

Fernando didn't learn from his father's mistakes, he took up with a married woman named Leonor Teles and all kinds of bad decisions followed.

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@cg8397 yeah, Fernando lacked his father's strength and had his lusty libido, so a match made south of Heaven

Hollywood should make a film from this incredible story.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

They really should - the Portuguese one is pretty good!

@ardenalexa94

6 ай бұрын

Idk, some they do a good job on, others they don’t stick to the story at all and overdramatize it

@altinaykor364

6 ай бұрын

with the politics modern Hollywood has in casting and telling story in pretty political bias way, I actually would rather see their filthy hands away from such an incredible historical stories

@michelemarmelo3699

Ай бұрын

they have made many my favorite is the 2018 adaptation with diogo amaral i think thats hi name as pedro

Oooooh boy you can imagine my happiness with a Portuguese AND Medieval story! I remember being obcessed with the tragedy of Pedro and Inês since I was 8 or so, though my views on it have changed somewhat, as I feel more and more for Constança. Nevertheless, Inês' fate was tragic, and a great stain on Afonso IV's reputation (though one of the few, as he was actually not a bad king, ya know, if we remove the murder of a woman suposedly in front of her kids💀) I also remember it being said Constança died of a broken heart- while not true, a nice addition to the story... Also, the music you have adorned this video with is beautiful- it's unexplainable istg it's sadness mixed with happiness and melancholy.

@DarthDread-oh2ne

6 ай бұрын

Hello friend, I hope you was able to find that Chinese documentary I told you about.

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@DarthDread-oh2ne I have! I have just not had time to watch it, yet... I hope it at least has english subtitles, though :)

@DarthDread-oh2ne

6 ай бұрын

​@@lfgifu296 I am sorry for bothering you much.

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@DarthDread-oh2ne no, not at all! Thanks for the recomendations :)

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Poor Constança - I felt for her, too. It must have been a double blow, as not only was her new husband not interested in her, but she lost a companion as well. Well, I'm assuming that, I don't think she and Inês would have remained friends afterwards! And you're right about Afonso IV as well. It's so weird that he was actually - as you say - a fairly reasonable and okay monarch, except for the very brutal murder of his son's lover. ☹ And thank you about the music! I decided to try and find something new for these videos, so it's good to know it matches up. 😊

Yeah I heard of her sad tale. She was the prince truly beloved lady. But because his father the king may have killed her and his son rebel and took the crown. He even bring back her corpse and crown her queen. In his grief, he made all of his Lord's and advisor to kiss her dead hand to plead their oaths.

Although the story of the coronation of a corpse has Queen of Portugal is false. It is known that Pedro did in fact proclaim the dead Ines has Queen of Portugal. I am surprised that since Alfonso died so soon after Pedro and he allegedly reconciled and considering the sheer rage Pedro had concerning the murder of Ines that it appears no one has accused Pedro of murdering his father.

thank you...nothing more to say...thank you again...ron

I had a book that talked about her and Pedro called Royal Love Stories. At least in death, Pedro and Ines can be together forever/

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

I love that way of looking at it! As long as hopefully her ghost isn't really floating around the Quinta das Lágrimas (which I personally don't think she is, thank goodness).

Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. He's big and happy. All your history videos are always enjoyable and wonderful. Sometime in the future, could you do a video on King Arthur. Have a great day see you next video 😀

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Hi Michelle, glad you enjoyed the video, and you and Benjamin are doing well! 😊 I love the legends around King Arthur, I might think about how to do one on him in the future, or possibly on another channel I'm planning.

While Pedro and Inês really do have quite a love story and I sympathize with the tragic fate of Inês, it's difficult to reconcile that with the fact that their romance was adultery; Pedro was cheating on his wife with her lady-in-waiting, who happened to be her kinswoman and childhood friend. Constanza herself had a pretty rotten deal before she married Pedro; she was married off as a child to Castilian royalty, who then annulled the marriage to marry his own concubine and didn't even have the decency to let Constanza go home. Poor Constanza was cursed with two happy marriages-!!! That Pedro does not seem to have been there for Constanza when she died says a lot.

This episode chimes nicely with today's question! Which is, who would your 6 guests for an "Historical Figures Dinner" be? I say it chimes because my answer includes Pedro :) For me, it'd go: Pedro I of Portugal, known both as The Just and The Cruel, so, interesting, also there are many stories regarding him which make him, in my eyes, a nice drinking pal lol Leonardo da Vinci, a most brilliant mind Thomas Moore, intelligent, kind, and bearer of a sad fate Emma of Normandy, a formidable woman Aelfthryth of Devon, soooo many questions I want to ask her, also wanna see how beautiful she was Empress Maud, though perhaps too spikey and maybe a bit abrasive, nevertheless admirable and fascinating :)

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Ooooh.....love this one. Okay, I'm going for - Empress Matilda/Maud. She's my absolute heroine, and I'd love to pick her brain. Elizabeth I. Cliche, I know, but it would be amazing to meet her in person. I could also get her drunk on wine and see if she would spill about really having any illegitimate children. Richard Trevithick. This one's for my little boy as he's obsessed with trains, and Trevithick was the inventor of the world's first moving steam locomotive, although he became largely forgotten after Stephenson's success with the Rocket. Hatshepsut. I'll probably need a translator, but let's pretend! I'd love to find out what her motivation was for going against the norm at the time she became Pharaoh. I don't know their name, but whichever person in ancient history first came up with writing! I'd love to know about the process of that, because it really was the catalyst for so much of civilisation across the world. And Aelfthryth of Devon! Just generally a fascinating person, and I can try and find out what really happened to her stepson....

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople Ooooh solid choices! Also seeing Elizabeth I drunk sounds cursed😭😭 And choosing one for your son's obcession is so cute :))

@leeannproctor2966

4 ай бұрын

Did pedro ever had her portrait done?

@lfgifu296

4 ай бұрын

@@leeannproctor2966 This was the mid XIV century, so I suspect not. If anything, we’d have a rough depiction of her which wouldn’t say that much about her appearance (I love Medieval illuminations, but they’re not very precise), but I don’t think we have that either- I’m not sure, but I don’t even think we have surviving contemporary depictions of Pedro.

This is a fantastic story, thanks for covering it!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it! 😊

Excellent video, thank you muchly. ☮️💜☯️

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊

Hello. Thank you for this video, I never heard someone before document this story as well as you did. Love your channel, I have been a fan for a long while. Hugs from Portugal 🇵🇹

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Obrigado, isso é muito gentil! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😊

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople oh I didn't notice you talking some portuguese! Just a little correction, when one is female, one says "obrigada", since the "a" makes a name feminine, while the "o" makes it masculine- because why not complicate the language further? :)

I really do not have much sympathy for her death after all she was a mistress, but very shocked to say the least on what happened. What a terrible father, poor Pedro and Inez.

@leeannproctor2966

6 ай бұрын

I wonder what kind of stepmother Ines was?

what a sad tragic story reminds of the mad Queen Juan of spain and like this story lot of myths added to it

Can I ask you which Hanover monarch is your favorite in terms of ranking? Which was the most successful in your opinion and the one whose reign had the best legacy? 1. George I 2. George II 3. George III 4. George IV 5. William IV 6. Victoria

@HistorysForgottenPeople

2 ай бұрын

Oooh, this is a tough one. Okay, from favourite to least favourite; 1. George III 2. William IV 3. George II 4. Victoria 5. George IV 6. George I Although in all honesty, you could group the last three joint bottom for me, haha! So the answer to the second part of your question is totally different from my favourites. While George III was the nicest of the bunch, in my humble opinion, and he did well as king, his later mental illness meant it just wasn't possible for him to have a decent legacy. And William IV wasn't king for long enough, although again, seems like a nice guy. Victoria has to be the one with the greatest legacy. Her reign saw huge changes, political and social reform, the building of an empire (which I don't agree with, but nevertheless is one of the barometers of how someone performs as monarch at that time), and Britain became the wealthiest country in the world at one point, the industrial powerhouse of the entire globe. However, I think she as a person was horrible. She was a toxic mother to her children, and despite being the first female monarch for decades, she believed women shouldn't fight for equal rights and despised feminists and suffragettes. It's difficult to even gauge how much influence she really had in matters, since Parliament by that point was far more powerful. But she is probably the monarch with the most enduring legacy, partly because she lived through so much change (some positive, some not), and the propaganda surrounding her and her family was very effective, and was the forerunner for the royal family's propaganda that would follow to this day.

Have you made a video about Lucretia Borgia?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Not yet, but I have the Borgias waiting on my list! I've wanted to cover them for a while, so they're definitely coming next year.

Also, in Art History, we study Pedro amd Inês' tomb as a Gothic piece of art!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

I'm not surprised, it's stunning! Most tombs of that period are ornate, but not that much (including the other tombs that share the mausoleum). Knowing the story behind it, you can really feel how much Pedro was grieving when you look at the carvings and care taken on the tombs.

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople oh yeah Pedro took it two steps further :) And as much as I dislike him and feel for Constança, the tomb is really touching (and mesmerizes me each time I visit)

It would make a fabulous political romance movie!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

It would be amazing! There is a film already, but in Portuguese - I do think it would be great as a TV series, as well.

I became distracted when I heard "Aldonza Lorenzo". I mean... I knew Dulcinea del Toboso was actually called Aldonza Lorenzo. I had no idea there had been a real person of that name.

@DonTitoNYC

Ай бұрын

It was spelled in Portuguese, Aldonça Lourenço.

Horrific

And through their daughter, the royal families of Europe carry their blood and specifically their great grand daughter brought it right back into Portugal!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

That's absolutely right! I thought it was a good sort of revenge on Afonso, that Pedro and Ines are the ancestors to the Portuguese royal family (and many others, as you point out)!

Some Portuguese Historians says that it really Happened the Corpse Queen.

Not exactly or completely similar story, but Inês for me seems like Katherine Swynford of Portugal and since both women happen to born and live in the same century, makes this believe stronger for me! although I'm not gonna ignore that Inês' ending was tragic and a lot more weird in afterlife. but parallels are undeniable to me

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

You're right, there's definitely some similarities between the two women, except that Katherine had a much happier ending! I wonder if it would have been the same if John of Gaunt was heir apparent, though, like Pedro was? 🤔

@beth7935

6 ай бұрын

I was thinking of her as well.

@lfgifu296

6 ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople well... Edward III allowed his heir apparent to wed Joan of Kent- ok he didn't allow it, but he accepted it once it became known lol-. The situations were different though, Joan's family connections were nowhere as controversial to the English as Inês' were to the Portuguese

@rebeccaorman1823

4 ай бұрын

Just a slight correction. Katherine Stanford was from England not Portugal.

@altinaykor364

4 ай бұрын

@@rebeccaorman1823 as if I said anything else! and by the way, Katherine Swynford

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@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

Think of all of the misery that arranged marriages, especially royal and aristocratic ones, have caused over the centuries! Putting money and family bloodlines above the happiness of marriage partners is so wrong! The partners and any children who are born to them are almost always doomed to terrible unhappiness throughout their lives especially when divorce is not an option. Perhaps Fernando would’ve been a better king if he hadn’t had to deal with the drama and trauma of having to deal with a loveless marriage that he couldn’t get out of except by the death of his queen. I’m not excusing his atrocious and bloodthirsty behavior with the matter of tearing out the hearts of his enemies. That’s just over the top evil! However, I CAN imagine that the constant stress over his relationship with Ines, his wife and the feud between him and his father could very well have tipped him over the edge into insanity or some type of personality disorder. What do you think?

Is this the inspo for blood 🩸 and cheese? 🧀

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Ай бұрын

It's possible! GRRM seems to use a lot of interesting history as inspiration.

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