firstly, just want to say thank you to everyone for the support and feedback. i’m glad so many of you enjoyed the video and i can promise there’ll be more to come so make sure you subscribe and stick around 🤝 secondly, this comment section has also become something i didn’t want. for those who have watched the entire video, you should know it’s about appreciating both players. so let’s keep it civilised and respectful 🫡

@monsterrrrgaming

24 күн бұрын

@@ehzardo if you keep up this work, you will be one of the football documentaries GOAT

@p.Espin95

23 күн бұрын

What a great video! Really enjoyed it! Im just thanksful I was alive watching theses two guys at their prime.

@atoyorke7468

21 күн бұрын

You should do well to mention the countless times Ronaldo has disrespected Messi when Messi never says a bad word about Ronaldo…be honest and stop focusing on being impartial

@monsterrrrgaming

21 күн бұрын

@@atoyorke7468 when has ronaldo disrespected messi?

@atoyorke7468

21 күн бұрын

@@monsterrrrgaming In interviews mocking Messi’s copa America exit…Calling him unsavory nicknames in the dressing room…On social media sending laughing emojis at messi slander posts…his family mocking Messi…i’ve seen a lot more

If only we could turn back the clock 14 years and relive that era.

@nathanhosea489

24 күн бұрын

Just be grateful we lived through it. Unless you're 15 or 16 this year, but if you are, 2011-12 was something completely on a different level, the peak of club football as we know it

@dk91750

22 күн бұрын

Hear! Hear!

@RalphieMuskinyaar

21 күн бұрын

I’m just glad we got to see it. What a time to be alive.

If messi and ronaldo played together lord the amount of goals ronaldo would have gotten 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@khosta6690

24 күн бұрын

Messi fan type comment

@nathanhosea489

24 күн бұрын

2 of his best ever seasons were with Ozil, probably the only playmaker he's ever played with who's on the same level as Messi in terms of playmaking. But yeah, that duo would've been absolutely insane, 60+ goals 40+ assists for Messi and 70+ goals 20+ assists for Ronaldo

@Parth-gx1nw

23 күн бұрын

​@@nathanhosea489Messi runs at goals and attracts more players unlike Ozil. Which gives his teammates more chances to exploit his passing and space. Definitely Ronaldo would have had way more goals and even assists. Messi really loves to cross on the left wing or in the box which is Ronaldo's main strong point. So ya definitely no way it wont be a deadly combo

@Vladimirputin11111

21 күн бұрын

​@@nathanhosea489 Messi attracts more players..

@samuelcarrillo4378

21 күн бұрын

@@khosta6690Ronaldo simp. It’s just basic fact that Messi is a better passer. They would have been better than the mns trio. Even as just a duo.

Ronaldo and Messi: 🥺🤝🥰 Their fans: 😡🤬☠️

@okokokokkoko3214

21 күн бұрын

????? havent you seen the comments ronaldo put under Messi’s balon dor wins? “😂😂😂😂” “factos 😂” thats just childish

@NycmanTheNicestOfMen

21 күн бұрын

Ronaldo and messi is JUST AS toxic though. Mostly from ronaldo tho.

@artonio5887

20 күн бұрын

@@okokokokkoko3214 Ronaldo himself is a toxic asshole, and an overall idiot. But online I see messi fans being toxic way more often than ronaldo fans. Like, just look at this comment section, all it takes is someone saying they are a ronaldo fan, for a messi fan to be instantly summoned in the replies, with a wall text, explaining how "it's not even close". Saying shit like "messi's stats are WAY better", even tho it shows in the video that they are just a bit better, and that both players are clearly of a comparable level. I never see ronaldo fans trying to pull messi down from the top legend status, it's always messi fans trying to make ronaldo seem like an average player.

@LeafyPeach

19 күн бұрын

Ronaldo is super jealous of Messi.

@Jama004

15 күн бұрын

lol this is false. Ronaldo hates him. And the evidence is everywhere

One is a machine, the other is a magician. Both are phenomenal, but comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges

@mikelbaningo6407

25 күн бұрын

@@gurururuwarararara8164 messi is clear lol

@strikerfc-gv7pc

25 күн бұрын

@@mikelbaningo6407 bro learned football from yt shorts

@user-ld9zi1cf7i

25 күн бұрын

@@strikerfc-gv7pc He is right, Messi is clear. Just look at imaginary arguments from Ronaldo fans why is better. 1.) "Ronaldo is better because he scored more goals". Number of goals was never, and will never be deciding factor in a debate who is the goat. That is like saying Haaland is better player than Brazilian Ronaldo because he scored more goals. 2.) "Ronaldo did it in Premier League and Messi didn't". That is just a theory, you can't know if Messi would be good in PL. In Premier League, one brainless winger like Sterling was scoring 20 goals per season and Messi would not succeed in that league hahaha. 3.) "World cup was rigged" Yeah, with France having two penalties in finals, and with absolutely zero proof of being rigged. 4.) "CR has 0 WC knockout goal contributions because Portugal is not that good and Messi had strong Argentina always." Figo, Rui Costa, Bruno Fernandes, Cancelo, Nani, Bernardo Silva and many others top class players played with him in Portugal. And Messi won WC with Acuna, Molina and others. You see, almost every single argument where Ronaldo is better is just some theory. 8 Ballon d'Ors, World Cup, two times best player of World Cup, facts, no theories. Of course, CR fans will say that his awards were not deserved, but that is nothing but their opinion, it has no weight at all, it means nothing, it is just their opinions. Messi clear. End of story.

@enderwxrld

25 күн бұрын

I don't think Ronaldo is better than Messi. But Messi is also not better than Ronaldo. Sometimes the other plays better, sometimes the other one plays better. It really depends​@@user-ld9zi1cf7i

@Withoutme0

25 күн бұрын

we got 3 year gap boy

Heart says Ronaldo. Brain says Messi. When i wached football the most (2016-2018), it was Ronaldos dominanse and i loved waching his goal complinations. At the time of the world cup final i started to like more of Messis playing style. But i can never forget my love towards Ronaldo scoring. At the end of the day i learned to appriciate both players.

@honzagomela5800

22 күн бұрын

Well, here lies the problem. You and many others probably didn't even see Ronaldo playing in his 20s. Needless to say, he was better in 2011-2013 than in 2016-2018.

@user-bs6ft5ye5z

22 күн бұрын

@@honzagomela5800 the problem is that he also didnt watch messi prior to 16-18

@newtonowaga6433

18 күн бұрын

@@user-bs6ft5ye5z great response 👍🏾

@halftendedifiebf1741

10 күн бұрын

@@honzagomela5800Facts Cristianos Prime is from 2008-2014

@bigsmall2842

9 күн бұрын

@@honzagomela5800id say 2008-2014 are the years Ronaldo really showed his brilliance.

I think that Messi is the GOAT, but Ronaldo isn't far from him, people who think that Ronaldo is the GOAT have a point, people who think Messi is the GOAT have a point.

@TREPIIID

25 күн бұрын

Careful, you're acting too rationale in a comment section like this. Notreubensandwich is such a goon. Unironically using terms like "Pendu" confirms he hasn't matured past 5.

@notreubensandwich

25 күн бұрын

He’s not really though. Messi is far far better. Messi is the greatest dribbler and playmaker ever while Ronaldo’s nowhere near that. You can only compare them in finishing but even there Messi is far more efficient than Ronaldo statistically. For example, Messi has scored more long range goals in half the attempts than Ronaldo. Same with free-kicks. Its not really a debate. Players like Maradona, R9 are more comparable to Messi in pure footballing terms. Cristiano’s prime just isn’t that level but he had longevity though which is why he’s top 5 in my books.

@monsterrrrgaming

25 күн бұрын

@@notreubensandwich dribbling yeah, but messi isn't the best playmaker in the world, iniesta, xavi, pirlo, kroos and modric are better in terms of playmaking. Cristiano is a better goalscorer than Messi. Ronaldo played 200 games as a right midfielder where is harder to score goals from, if we want to compare goalscoring we should take ronaldo's time in Real Madrid in which he has a better goal scoring ratio than messi. Ronaldo's weak foot is better than messi's, ronaldo's heading ability is better than messi's. Messi has free kicks but ronaldo has penalties. Cristiano has more hattricks than messi. He was the top scorer of the ucl more times than messi, has more goals and assists in the champions league than messi. Ronaldo's dribbling ability became worse because he shifted roles, from playing in the LW position in to the ST position, and of course he had that knee injury that worsened his dribbling. Ronaldo's playmaking ability isn't that bad, but messi's is far better. Do you now see why people think that ronaldo is the goat

@notreubensandwich

25 күн бұрын

@@monsterrrrgaming Kroos? hahahah Messi literally has 5 playmaker awards that's by far the most in history. He also has the most assists in the history. Messi's gravity alone makes him a much much deadlier playmaker than Xavi, Kroos, Modrid or Pirlo. F off Penaldo played as a winger in United and pretty much a number 9 in his last season at united with Rooney sacrificing a lot. Messi played most of his 2nd half of his career playing deep where he had to run the game after Xavi retired in 2014. Messi has the most goals in a year which Penaldo can't even dream of. Messi has SIX GOLDEN BOOTS. Messi has the record for League goals which pendu never did. If pendu was a better goalscorer he would've scored a knockout goal in 5 world cups but he failed lololol Most managers, players, commentators rate Messi as the Goat. Even guys like Mourinho has said that much lol

@monsterrrrgaming

24 күн бұрын

@@notreubensandwich so messi's gravity makes him a better playmaker, messi gets those awards because of his name, messi is an elite playmaker but not as good as the actual midfielders, you know, midfielders who's whole job Is to create chances. When you say penaldo and pendu you are referring to ronaldo's penalties which he is far better than messi at pens. Messi played his 2nd half of his career as a right winger mate and sometimes dropped to CAM to create chances. Most goals in a year yes but ronaldo had 60+ goals in 4 consecutive seasons, a nearly equal record. The golden boots are fair, but I will have to say that messi had the better team mates.

Just for a moment, imagine Messi and Ronaldo being on the same team. Ronaldo as the striker, Messi in a more "find the space" role. I think they would have ruled any league they were in. Would have humiliated the best defenses anyone had to offer. Except Puyol, that man would have put his face in front of a power shot from Ronaldo.

@omother6950

22 күн бұрын

What u on about puyol, di Maria made him play twister 😂😂😂

@Matterpalingreview

21 күн бұрын

Psg blew the shot. The only team in my mind that can combine both of em. But i guess mbappe had a say in that….

@atuka9759

20 күн бұрын

Messi ruled the league without Ronaldo.

@infected9693

12 күн бұрын

Nah bro just imagine this, Cristiano on the left, R9 upfront, Pele below him, Messi on the right, Maradona, Cryuff and Zidane at the middle and Maldini, Beckenbaur and Nesta as defenders with Buffon or Casillas as the keeper,

@raider1297

11 күн бұрын

@@infected9693 You'd get scored on 50 times a game and wouldn't score nearly as much as you think, but well...casuals always think attacking players are all that matters and that tactics are a myth or something

Even though some fans still want to debate Messi vs. Ronaldo, it’s no longer a contest. When we watch them play football, especially when they’re not scoring, it becomes evident that Messi has far more in his arsenal than Ronaldo.

@mikelbaningo6407

25 күн бұрын

Swrs bro😂 Ronaldo is currently finished😂😂 while messi is currently the ballon dor holder at 36😂

@ladyole9291

25 күн бұрын

​​@@mikelbaningo6407while Ronaldo is 39?, compare both of them at the same age Ronaldo at 36 clutching up for man UTD 2021 season and Messi inter Miami. You can study the effects of aging on athletes 2 to 3 yrs age cap might seem minute but it's very important especially in players who are in their 16 to 20 and those of 36 to 41 and Ronaldo plays as a winger which focusses more on pace and athletic ability that was why cryuff said Ronaldo would be finished at 29 cus his style used his pace , speed and athletic prowess unlike Messi who used his amazing lower center of gravity as a basis of his style as well as his high football iq

@michaelbozimo8454

25 күн бұрын

​@ladyole9291 Somewhat agree. But looking at it ronaldo without goals didn't really do much in matches long before he became 39. It's not just this year

@mikelbaningo6407

25 күн бұрын

@@ladyole9291 Ronaldo at 36 Trophyless with united Took them to Europa league Got 2 coaches sacked Rejected by every club in Europe Had one of the worst WC campaigns of all time 💀 just 1 goal Lol messi is clear

@strikerfc-gv7pc

25 күн бұрын

@@mikelbaningo6407 if you had any ball knowledge you’d know that United team were in the mud and cr7 was the scapegoat for all of the club’s problems which started after he left in 2009 even though he saved them multiple times whilst Messi is in the mls at 36 struggling vs Atlanta utd with some of the best players he’s ever played with also on this team

The whole "they both helped each other do well, we cant compare them, they both respect each other so much it was a healthy rivalry" narrative is borderline virtue signalling 😭😭 Ronaldo IS jealous of the guy, and hes childish about it. The entire debate was pushed by the Media to drum up El Classico back in the day, we all know who the better player was and Ronaldo clearly knows it too, he just probably wont admit it for a long time.

@Miuranger1

3 күн бұрын

We saw who's the better player when one of them scored 6 in a league for PSG

What paradox?

@Sami-rp1nh

20 күн бұрын

he really has no idea what a paradox is lmao

@edotensei496

20 күн бұрын

wallahi same question I've watched the whole video trying to understand the paradox thing 😂

@wiisportsbaseball

12 күн бұрын

he even dropped a definition just to never mention the paradox thing😭😭

@doctorsam5771

10 күн бұрын

It's hilarious to see that all these guys know that Messi is way better than Ronaldo in every aspect but have to play this "two GOATs" and fence sitting gimmick to avoid backlash from Ronaldo fanboys 😂

@sando_stando

9 күн бұрын

I think what he's trying to say is it's not as much of a rivalry as it is two great but very different players that compliment each other, marking an era of football, so he's trying to highlight them together instead of individually

federer nadal and ronaldo messi in the same era is crazy

@lukkabadel4971

24 күн бұрын

đoković

@TheAriznPremium

24 күн бұрын

​@@lukkabadel4971 federe, nadal and dokovic is like ronaldo messi and neymar 1st 2nd and a cringe third

@lukkabadel4971

24 күн бұрын

@@TheAriznPremium hahahaha u dont watch tennis, he is the goat, the trophies, statistics and looks show novak

@TheAriznPremium

24 күн бұрын

@@lukkabadel4971 his behaviour is the most cringe by a long shot

@TheAriznPremium

24 күн бұрын

like neymar

I wish they play atleast once match in the same team before retiring

I don't think I've heard a single defender say they rather be stuck with marking Messi than Cristiano.

@ozukabeats2456

25 күн бұрын

Oh no one cares man

@fatehshoaib9423

25 күн бұрын

video flew right over your head

@cellsentinel239

25 күн бұрын

honestly this is kinda valid

@fatehshoaib9423

25 күн бұрын

@@cellsentinel239 definitely not valid

@cellsentinel239

25 күн бұрын

@@fatehshoaib9423 sure ok whatever you say

its a media forced debate messi was always been better even before the world cup its as simple as that! ronaldo is a great goalscorer messi is the best playmaker, the best goalscorer and also has a better stats in defence than ronaldo but still we have to appreciate both!

@banksfranks775

25 күн бұрын

People forget how good ronaldo was in his prime. Its not media forced at all.

@matsalvatore9074

25 күн бұрын

Pep. Xavi. Iniesta. 0 trophies since aging n leaving. La masia at 13. Farmed. Argentina won more pre Messi. CR7 twice as many goals. Better ratio for gls assists n total at international when removing friendlies. Messi is limited. Cr7 is Limitless. It's not facts. It's opinions. Messi is just better to you

@ballsballsballs3617

25 күн бұрын

Messi has never done anything without Barca. And even with Barca he pretty much hasn’t done anything in a decade other than his World Cup. Everyone (not just Ronaldo fans simply fans of football) know that Messi has 2 ballon dor that r heavily scrutinized because he didn’t deserve them as much as others where as Ronaldo has had a ballon dor stolen from him in broad daylight (funnily enough from a player on his own team who he just won the ucl for 3rd time in a row while being the driving force). There will always be a debate. The fact is the people like u ( and the opposite with die hard Ronaldo fans) r ruining football cuz u can’t get over the fact not everybody cares about ur opinion

@alexanderkhandolishvili5336

25 күн бұрын

@@banksfranks775 It is media forced, because Messi had better prime as well. Better prime, better stats, better h2h stats, more team trophies, more individual trophies and even if you forget all of the above the eye test just shows that messi is a better player.

@MachoManEditz

25 күн бұрын

@@matsalvatore9074 first why r u mentioning xavi, inesta and pep? la masia what?🤣 and if u remove euro qualifiers where ronaldo farms goals against luxumborg, lithuenia, andora and the likes and count goals(or assists if u like) messi has more and also ronaldo has 0 player of the tournament in 16 tournaments played that says a lot and u say messi is limited? limited in what? he is the better playmaker(the best actually), the better goal scorer( has better goal to game ratio, scores more from outside the box, had the greatest goal scoring prime, more golden boots, more shot on target and needs less shot to score than ronaldo and he is the better free kick shooter) , and he's even better in defence check his stats so ronaldo is the limited one and it is definetly not an opinion objectively messi is miles better!

It's a rivalry in the sense that other than CR7 no one else in their generation came close to Messi's level, be it on the football field or in stats. But the truth is, and most EPL fans have a hard time accepting this (most notably Man Utd fans), Messi is just better. They are not on the same level. In terms of career, yes, they're comparable. They're more victorious and consistent than everyone else. Some players have more World Cup titles than them, or more Champions League titles, but when you add stats + longevity + individual accolades + consistency + iconic performances to the equation there's no debate. It's Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo first, then comes everyone else. That's one thing. But on the pitch? I'm sorry. Messi is better. He always was and he always will be. You can like watching other players more than you like watching Messi - like my father prefers Ronaldinho over him - but he is the best player of the last 30 years and arguably the GOAT. That's a fact.

It’s a paradox for the Ronaldo fans. Messi is obviously the best and the only true goat candidate of their generation. For me the goat

@captainfalconmain6576

6 күн бұрын

they lack football knowledge

CR7 is the reason i support United. He made me a FAN of himself & football since 2007. As i grew up i realized Messi in his Prime was CLEARLY about 4X BETTER than CR7 in his Prime. + (idgaf about weather Messi won the WC or not..) No man in history has Ever PLAYED FOOTBALL BETTER THAN MESSI FOR AS LONG AS HE DID (2009-2019) & ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

The comment section is filled with typical fanboys of both sides instead of rational ones ☠️ Edit: Great video by the way. I like how you framed it as a Paradox

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

yep unfortunately you’re right 😭😭 thanks for the positive feedback though, glad you enjoyed it man 🙏

@Niimerium

25 күн бұрын

@ehzardo This is how it is always going to be unfortunately 😂 playerFC arguing and hating over one another. Can't wait for your next video man!

@yvl444

22 күн бұрын

Messi fans are rational because they support a fact, on the other hand ronaldo kids deny a fact.

@Niimerium

22 күн бұрын

@@yvl444 That is literally not the case with either one of the fanbase or any of the player specific fans. Carry on.

@ArianusOnTop

22 күн бұрын

@@yvl444 Messi is not near Pele, so they also support a position that’s incorrect

With Messi's playmaking and Ronaldo's ability to score from that, If they were on the same team then that would create an unstoppable force. If the other team would try to stop Ronaldo then Messi would be there to cover his weaknesses. I think Ronaldo covers Messi's weaknesses to a lesser extent than Messi would cover Ronaldo but I could see Ronaldo pulling out some insane risky stuff if the team is in a losing position. Its not really worth it to compare them because of all the different factors that come into play, all we can do is be glad that we were graced with two kings of football and not just one.

@ryukobestwaifu3319

23 күн бұрын

Would be amazing if Ronaldo signed for Miami

@liam3104

11 күн бұрын

People talk about ronaldo scoring way more goals than Messi and Messi’s a playmaker when Messi has more goals per 90 than ronaldo

Ive seen R9s regen in CR7. Then he was regened in mbappe. Weve seen guys like that before. Guys like Messi dont just pop out in the next generation. I do think that both messi and Ronaldo are the best in history. Maradona and pele have been outshined by how long both these titans have done it and how consistent they've been. Football will never be as enjoyable as it was back then.

@ArianusOnTop

22 күн бұрын

@@jozc4273 Pele clear of everyone you just mentioned. His only flaw was the fact he played in an era much less athletically gifted than today and that’s not even a personal shortcoming. He was extremely technically gifted, and laid the foundations for football as we know it today. He was basically MJ playing in Bill Russell’s era

@kiran-thetributechannel

22 күн бұрын

CR7 + Mbappe = R9

@poptraxx418

21 күн бұрын

Cr7 is different from mbappe and r9

@technica6338

20 күн бұрын

CR7 heading, playmaking, weak foot, skills, dribbling, free kicks, penalties, defending, are all better than R9s, lmfao stop it

@kiran-thetributechannel

20 күн бұрын

@@technica6338 weak foot ? Skills ? DRIBBLING ? Cr7 sucks at free kicks

im honestly so baffled how this comparison even came about, i believe it was the casuals, media hype and Barca x madrid rivalry that forced a debate that didn't even exist. their footballing abilities are galaxies or even universes apart. its honestly so disrespectful to both of their legacies that they were even compared in the first place. you could make a case until about 2010 but apart from that its not even close

@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII

20 күн бұрын

Ronaldo vs Messi was one of the main marketing points building up to the UCL final in 2009. Ronaldo was the previous best player in the world and Messi was on the up making a case for himself. Then Ronaldo moved to Madrid and the idea of a rivalry stuck.

@TREPIIID

20 күн бұрын

2010... When both hadn't peaked yet? Indian Messi fans are like climate change deniers.

@qal4real372

19 күн бұрын

@@TREPIIID indian?

@drisskettani1692

9 күн бұрын

Galaxies seriously are u drunk

@qal4real372

9 күн бұрын

@@drisskettani1692 just watch a single game from both of them. there is nothing to compare

I don’t say that Ronaldo is bad I have mad respect for the things he achieved but Messi clear by far. All those ishowspeed fans are brainwashed even my little brother is saying ronaldo is better & he doesn’t know 1 thing about football 😤

@captainfalconmain6576

6 күн бұрын

penaldo for a reason

Great video! Looking forward to more!

Underrated KZreadr. A great quality video. Thank you!

There's no paradox: Rivalries sell, so the sports media hyped up the only player putting up similar numbers to Messi and ignored the fact that Messi is clearly superior at everything else. Casual fans and kids fell for it, and since Ronaldo is a couple of years older plenty of people had time to become die-hard Ronaldo fans before Messi came along, and stubbornly stuck with their guy despite the evidence.

@captainfalconmain6576

6 күн бұрын

obviously messi is clearly better

@korganrocks3995

6 күн бұрын

@@captainfalconmain6576 If you know something about football and actually watch both of them play, yeah. If you just look at goals scored you could be tricked into thinking it's really close.

it aint even close dawg its messi

@UserTheLion7722

9 күн бұрын

It's messi but it's way closer thn what people nowadays try to make it out to be

@captainfalconmain6576

8 күн бұрын

@@UserTheLion7722not really ronaldo never really performed in big games not even in the ucls

@leandersantos2477

8 күн бұрын

This is a brain dead take He literally has multiple hat tricks in the World Cup and UCL just to keep his team FROM elimination

@UserTheLion7722

8 күн бұрын

@captainfalconmain6576 he has 4 ucl final goals what do u mean not even in the ucl

@dt3688

8 күн бұрын

@@captainfalconmain6576bro what happened to football fans not perform in the ucl while having every record in the ucl 💀

Love your video . I’ve been on KZread a long time. Trust me your video style and presentation stands out. It’s a matter of time until you blow up

finally a well written text on the two goats

Nice video and well explained

why do people feel the need to shit on messi/ronaldo

@yohannes9958

25 күн бұрын

It’s just 10 year olds that do that

@danielmcgrath680

25 күн бұрын

Theyre on both sides but its mostly the Ronaldo stans that get heated tbh. Think its down to them being a lot younger and in their adolescence get mad when they lose things, like a 'goat debate'. Theres actually a Ronaldo fan replying to all Messi related comments on this video. Its childish, but theyre children

@dsavage6618

25 күн бұрын

@@danielmcgrath680 Exactly lmao

@jakestar121

25 күн бұрын

@@danielmcgrath680nah the Messi supporters can get pretty riled up too lmfao

@yohannes9958

25 күн бұрын

@@danielmcgrath680 it’s not just cr7 fans also Messi fans. Both fanbase are toxic

Great video👏

I am a big fan of Ronaldo, and I have accepted that Messi is a better and more successful player. However, nothing can change the admiration I have for Ronaldo as my idol. You can have a favorite player without having to elevate them above others or hate their rivals

@captainfalconmain6576

8 күн бұрын

true ❤

The debaters are fanboys. He who knows who's better simply knows.

@ModernFootball866

20 күн бұрын

Exactly. Everyone who is neutral and understands something about football knows who is better. There is a reason why there is a consensus among coaches that he is the best of his generation.

@brohdez8857

12 күн бұрын

And he’s not gonna stop scoring almost at 900 goals at 40 years old

@hannesdewinter1458

10 күн бұрын

@@brohdez8857 Lol

@galactica604

7 күн бұрын

everyone knows who's the goat 🇵🇹

@mohammadismailismail921

7 күн бұрын

​@@galactica604another fanboy

Good video 🔥

imagine getting to tell your kids and grandkids that you got to witness these two at the same time, going head to head on a weekly basis. we really had it good.

Wow! Very well laid down

Amazing video

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

glad you enjoyed it 🤝

I feel like Messi is Yang and Ronaldo is Yin, especially with Ronaldo's general portrayal as the "villain". Also with how Yang is "light" and Yin is "darkness"... Messi is almost always positive and mostly avoids controversies, the same can't be same for Cristiano. And regarding charisma, just look at the way Argentina players treat Messi and compare it to how Portugal players treat Cristiano. Messi is a proper leader.

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

that’s another way of looking at it for sure

@Quipie

25 күн бұрын

? portugal players treat cristiano ronaldo perfectly, you’re acting like argentina were always like this lmfao, where was messi’s leadership in copa america final 2007, 2014, 2015 & 2016?

@vedaacharya9807

25 күн бұрын

@@Quipie they reached finals of 2014 15 16. Isn't that an achievement in itself? How many finals have portugal played all combined?😂😂

@vedaacharya9807

25 күн бұрын

@@Quipie and yeah portugal players are all pis**d of at all the antics and tantrums ronaldo does just to be focal point in media and just force on the debate. Even his own teammates want him to hangup his boots. Portugal has golden generation waiting to conquer the world but ronaldo sadly doesn't fits in. It's not he is not good it's all about age and fading attributes he had to offer for his game and team.

@Quipie

25 күн бұрын

@@vedaacharya9807reached the finals but lost them all, losing 3 consecutive finals isn’t an accomplishment, why are you acting like it is? 🤷‍♂️

amazing video , 800 subs is crazy

If this is your first channel, this is quite impressive for a first vid! Really like your delivery and your editing style feels very confident. Subbed and looking forward to more soft-spoken football breakdowns :)

@ehzardo

23 күн бұрын

appreciate it man! been around a while but never got down to posting consistently over the years. more videos are in the works so i’m glad you’re here for it 🤝

Great Video🎉

I am your 500th sub!

@tamalibose9133

25 күн бұрын

🥳

Messi is certainly better, this doesn't means anyone is hating cr7😂 whether you see stats or onfield performance, whether you see trophies or individual awards messi clears Ronaldo everywhere.So why is this a debate? The answer is because of Ronaldo fans😂they are nowhere equal , the fact is we are comparing them only on goalscoring even in that messi has the edge, forget about playmaking and passing 💀 Respect every footballer but remember there is only one goat that is messi. In 2016 when Ronaldo won euros, his fans claimed he was the goat now cause he has win more , now when messi won back to back 4 titles, they are equal bro🤡 respect both goats🤡 wc doesn't make you the best🤡it is team trophy 🤡ironic😂 The video maker is probably a ronaldo fan 😂

@yusufkhan4621

16 күн бұрын

Did you know that there isn’t a single major tournament where Pessi hasn’t been carried. Copa America shouldn’t even be recognized, but the midget from Rosario gave up on his country and was harassed into playing for them again, only for his team to carry him to his first international trophy. Don’t even get me started on the 2022 World Cup. The games were staged for Pessi to win in, he was given a penalty every game. FIFA launched an investigation but it was swept under the carpet by DePaul’s dad (who is in FIFA) because they love Pessi so much. Every single champions league win was because of other players, not him, he just turned up, walked around the pitch, showed no passion for the game. If anything Pessi is a disgrace to the sport, incredibly egotistical and self-centered. Did you know he barred Garnacho from barely playing this tournament just because he likes Ronaldo, talk about putting himself before the team😂😂😂. Anyways Pessi is a fraud and is better compared with Luiz Diaz, than Ronaldo who has cemented himself as the greatest player of all time.

@diegoesparza9927

12 күн бұрын

@@yusufkhan4621its been 2 years since the world cup and your still crying

Awesome video, you've gained a sub

Outstanding video! God damn! Well done! I never understood the need of some people to declare one better than the other. It never made sense to me. All of us watching football for the past fifteen, twenty, twenty-five years were lucky to live in this era. Ronaldo showed his greatness first, being older. Messi appeared shortly after that. They gave us beautiful football...and don't forget it's a team sport. And don't forget the greats on other teams. The argument was stupid, it was always stupid. How can you watch football, watch Madrid's three-in-a-row Champions League titles and not understand Ronaldo's greatness, his otherworldly ability to score goals at any moment, from seemingly anywhere? Remember he was not alone on that team. How can you watch football, watch the alien telepathy of Guardiola's Barcelona, seemingly reading each other's minds, see Messi make elite defenders look like amateurs, and not understand Messi's greatness? He also had ten teammates. And both, older than 35 years, are STILL better than, what?, at least 50% of the professionals now playing? I got to see this. I count myself lucky. I'm a Barca fan, from before Messi was in the first team, but I count myself lucky to have been alive during their prime years. Who was better? Who is the GOAT? Who the fuck cares? The football was epic. It was glorious. It was beautiful. It was art in motion, for twelve or thirteen years. I got to see it. That's all I care about.

really well executed video I like how you brought the ideas of Yin and Yang and the paradox back at the end

Amazing video, my brother!

Bruh Ronaldo literally was a midfielder until his late MUN era... Messi had shoulders of literal Giants to build his career as a winger from the get go! Had CR7 been a winger throughout his younger years, he would've scored A LOT more goals

The comments on these type of videos are always so nice to read arent they :)

2 copa america now

nice video man.

amazing video

Absolutely fantastic video, I'm glad that for once the video with few views in my recommendations is not a poorly made TTS narrated video, but instead a very beautifully thought out and inspiring video. I hope there's more success coming your way, you're doing great! On the topic: The era of them will always be special to me, even though I was just a kid, I've seen Messi since he was starting to leave a mark at Barca. I have great respect for both players in different ways, minus CR7 going to Saudi Arabia, which taints his legacy not as footballer but as a person in my eyes. The only thing is: I will see goals like Ronaldo's again. Probably not as many over such a long period of time, but still they will always exist. I've never seen a player who moves like Messi and I sadly don't think I ever will again. No tricks, just a man with the ball glued to his feet who knows what the defender will do next before he does. It feels impossible to recreate. I'm just grateful to have witnessed all of this.

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

appreciate the kind words my friend. really glad you enjoyed it and there will be many more videos to come 🙏❤️

There was no rivalry. It became clear in 2012 itself. A mere machine cannot rival a demigod. Ronaldo is a prolific goalscorer with a never-give-up worth ethic but Messi is something out of this world.

@NNoitraa

25 күн бұрын

Then what happened in 2014-16-17-18? 😂 And what about 2019 in which Barcelona lost 4-0 to Liverpool and messi ghosted? When both were in their prime, Ronaldo dominated the competition.

@vb2388

25 күн бұрын

Messi also dominated UCL from 2009 to 2015.. winning 3 UCLs to CR7’s 0 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also, When Messi (2009-2013) was doing cr7’s job of goalpoaching.. - He won 4 Ballon d’Ors in a row - He was the UCL Top Scorer for 4 years in a row - He won 3 Golden Boots in that span - He won 3 Picchichis (Laliga Top Scorer) in that span - He scored 91 goals in a calendar year (Most in History) - He assisted 36 goals in a calendar year (Most in History) - He scored in all UCL finals in that span - In 2009 UCL campaign, He scored in RO16 against Lyon, a brace and an assist against Bayern in QF, a decisive assist against Chelsea in SF and a header against United in the final - In 2011 UCL campaign, He scored a brace against Arsenal in RO16, He scored in QF against Shaktar, He scored one of his best goals of his career against Real Madrid in the Semis and also scored from OTB against Van Der Sar in the UCL final Etc etc.. Its easy being a goal poacher….Messi thrived in it and did a better job than cr7.. Try being a goal poacher, playmaker and dribbler at the same time….cr7 wished he played like Messi 😂

@NNoitraa

25 күн бұрын

@@vb2388 Nice try cherry picking the years 2009 (Ronaldo won in 2008) and 2015 (Ronaldo would win in 2016), however Ronaldo won CL in 2014 so get your facts straight. Messi hasn't won a Champions League since 2015, which means he never won a Champions league while both he and Ronaldo were at their primes.

@TREPIIID

25 күн бұрын

​@vb2388 Even with your cherry-picked trimeframe... Ronaldo won 1 UCL in 2014, not 0... Don't even bother editing it again because I screenshotted it. Doesn't do your argument any favours that you can't count to 1. Numeracy isn't for everyone 😂😂

@Hyperzan

25 күн бұрын

Where is cr7 from 2019 to 2022 when messi won 3 international tournament as best player something cr7 never done and 3 ballondor?😂😂

Imagine if one of them didn't exist at the same time as the other, we would've seen the biggest domination by a single footballer ever.

@captainfalconmain6576

Күн бұрын

it’s already dominated by 1 player for me messi is way better

the video is not available in 480p :(

I'm a Ronaldo fan, but I'm well aware that out of the 2, Messi is the better player, nevertheless I'll still prefer Ronaldo, not Because he is better but it's more of a matter of preference

@captainfalconmain6576

8 күн бұрын

we need more ronaldo fans like you thanks

What a great video! As an argentinian myself of course I prefer Messi for ovbious reasons, but I can't deny Ronaldo's talent and magnitude to this sport. Growing up as a teenager watching them play every weekend was something I truly treasure now as I am older, it was an unique time for football and we all enjoyed it so much that only now we are being conscious of what we witnessed. And even if I prefer Messi it's sad for me that Cristiano didn't won more trophies with his national team, he really deserved more, but even if he didn't no one can deny he's a legend.

The Debate was Over 2 years ago . 8 Finals. 6 Copa Finals 2 Won,4 Lost. 2 World Cup Finals 1 Won, Another Lost in Luck.

I consider myself lucky to have been able to watch both players in their prime. They are true masters of their craft.

Messi can make any team better and badass. Ronaldo needs others to pass him the ball to score a goal. Anybody can score a goal but nobody can do what Messi can do MESSI IS THE GOAT 🔥

@winglessmecha

9 күн бұрын

@@r1ckyrusso Mauricio Pochettino is a trashy coach. Blame him and his stupid tactics

no way this video wasnt recorded before euros

vid made me think you had much more subs ngl high quality

his iconic noodle hair era😂

There was never a true comparison. Just media. Messi is levels higher.

@strikerfc-gv7pc

25 күн бұрын

What’s with these fans saying the media hyped Ronaldo up? The media has always favored Messi so ytf would they try to put cr7 on a pedestal if they are constantly criticizing him even when he plays good, let’s not forget when cr7 went from 3 ballon d’ors down to tying with Messi 5, cr7 in his prime is the greatest player in history

@Ajayharrysimon

25 күн бұрын

@@strikerfc-gv7pc greatest player in history would win world cup 🙄. Greatest player would give assist as good as he is scoring goals. Defo not ronaldo

@strikerfc-gv7pc

25 күн бұрын

@@Ajayharrysimon with that logic Pele>>>> any other player

@monsterrrrgaming

24 күн бұрын

@@Ajayharrysimon before messi won the world cup, yall said that you don't need a world cup to be the GOAT but now all of a sudden, when messi has won it, yall can say that you should definetly win the world cup to be the GOAT. And I'm on messi's side, I can agree that messi is the GOAT, but to say that it was never a debate, and the media pushed it, is simply wrong, ronaldo always was competitive with messi.

@kushalmongar9318

24 күн бұрын

@@monsterrrrgaming Nope. The moment Messi won a sextuple with Barcelona we knew that he was gonna be the GOAT...

One is better at everything football related, the other one is just better looking.

@captainfalconmain6576

8 күн бұрын

dont let ishowspeed see this 😂😂😂

nice work

Holy shit, this is a high quality video.

im not even joking when i first saw this video and didn't look at you're sub count i thought you had like 300k now that i see you're only at 600 subs im questioning how you're not at 300k

This video is nice and shows great respect for both of them, but mises context extremely by not going into in depth analysis to show exactly who is the better, more complete player, it also fails to mention glaring flaws these two had, so while I appreciate the effort the video is not real analytical look at them

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

appreciate the feedback but the video was never intended to be an in depth analysis and comparison. it was always about looking at their rivalry in a different angle and appreciating both players. glad you enjoyed it though :)

@mohammadalfattal2902

25 күн бұрын

@@ehzardo I would appreciate it more if it was clearer since the title and the start of the video made it look like an in depth analysis, but the video has a nice production value and very nice editing style, so great effort

@jorgeherrera1074

25 күн бұрын

@@ehzardo it doesnt make sense to present the video in a very "rivalry" manner and then say it's not about the rivalry. Click-bait.

@ehzardo

25 күн бұрын

​@@jorgeherrera1074 title is "The Ronaldo vs Messi Paradox". not the "Ronaldo vs Messi rivalry". the intro explains how most people see it as a rivalry, but quite clearly states "Is the greatest rivalry in football actually hiding a deeper truth?". the paradox is then explained. how exactly is this click-bait...

As an American and someone that started watching soccer only a few years ago this is my flawed take. Ronaldo is like a flashy receiver. Can make insane plays. Can win you a game on his athleticism alone. Major threat. Messi is Tom Brady. Not physically impressive. Not the fastest. Not the strongest. But he is the smartest. And that allows him to exploit your flaws to win a game. Both are legends. But one is, in my opinion, the better footballer. And elevates his teammates more. And that’s Messi.

@captainfalconmain6576

6 күн бұрын

messi goated

@oger3225

5 күн бұрын

"Not physically impressive" Messi is one of the most physically impressive players i've seen. This man takes ground duels from defenders larger than him and still keeps running and dribbling. His strength is the most underrated part of him.

Despite the toxic fanatics who will hopefully fade away with time, this rivalry and everything that was happening around it (the legendary Barcelona team that also was big part of the 2010 spain on of the best national teams, also the Madrid that absolutely dominated europe) is probably the best football event in history.

There’s nothing wrong with having two GOAT. Someone being good at something doesn’t mean another wouldn’t be good at it aswell.

@arno9233

8 күн бұрын

You know what the abbreviation stands for😂

Messi

I regret coming to this Toxic comment Section ...I am CR7 fan but I respect Messi Equally .. ...They have their own styles of Play...Grow up KIDS....

Messi and MJ are GOATS 🐐🐐 of Football and Basketball

It was never a debate. Messi been clear from the start it’s a media narrative to sell tickets and brands etc

@TheEstavonian

16 күн бұрын

Shut up kid

@THneedsomeluck

15 күн бұрын

you seem like a soccer fan than a football one 😂

@diegoesparza9927

12 күн бұрын

real madrid tax created the debate

@brohdez8857

12 күн бұрын

So if it’s never a debate why they keep pampering Messi and rigging trophies for him.

@diegoesparza9927

10 күн бұрын

@@brohdez8857 lmao is that really ur arguement, the coping is sad

Messi is easily the better player and has always been. Better playmaker, dribbler, passer, arguably even scorer if we look at the advanced statistics. Also better teammate and less selfish. However, the amount of disrespect towards Ronaldo (which is exacerbated by how he acts nowadays) is crazy. People saying "it was never a debate" etc. People forget very quickly that Ronaldo only became a pure goalscorer in his last 3 years in Madrid. And that is thanks to his chronic knee injury which made him change his dribbling and freekick style. Before that...he was something else entirely

@Way_Of_The_Light

21 күн бұрын

Messi should be compared to Modric or Ozil not Ronaldo. Ronaldo and Messi fulfill different needs so you can’t say that Messi is better player.

@ally4131

21 күн бұрын

@@Way_Of_The_Light You can if you have eyes. Messi performs on par if not better for the role of Ronaldo and ozil simultaneously.

@Way_Of_The_Light

21 күн бұрын

@@ally4131 Messi can’t be an areal threat. He definitely can’t replace Ronaldo’s exact role.

@wiilli4471

20 күн бұрын

@@ally4131 lmfao you are so dumb

@minnal0234

16 күн бұрын

@@Way_Of_The_Light What a silly arguement?

Great stuff. What a pleasure for us fans to see these living legends play for such a long time! To me, the comparison is a lot like MJ vs LeBron with a clear winner in both comparisons if you ask me...

I thought he was going to say something about the paradox or something meaningful as stated earlier in the video as well as in the title. But it was just another messi ronaldo video. Anyway it was fun to watch.

This vid deserves so much more credit, well done bro

No mention of the title decider in 2012 is a bit weird. Wonderfull video overall though

Talking about paradoxes, I think Messi is the true GOAT while Ronaldo is the pseudo goat 🐐

I subscribed. The video you made is underrated in my opinion and I believe that you can reach a million subs one day.

@ehzardo

26 күн бұрын

really appreciate the support and glad you enjoyed the video man 🙏❤️

Messi is better, can’t get more simple than that

I appreciate the perspective of yin and yang. I want to add another perspective that is a bit more complex. From a technical standpoint you evaluate how many times either of them played the role they have excellently. I would guess that in order for one to do that you would need a deep understanding of the game; football; and off course the time to watch all the matches they both played. How many times they made a wrong pass, they made the right move and running towards position, how they adapt to their opponents' formation, how many assists, how many goals and lastly, how many missed opportunities. Furthermore one could evaluate _all the rest of their teammates_ in each season to evaluate how hard was it for them to perform because: with the right teammates it is only logical that you can excel; and vice versa with the wrong players around them it is hard to perform. In other words you evaluate their 'greatness' based on the context of their successful seasons. For example if player A performs well even though the stats of some of his teammates are not well then his success could count higher than Player B who suceeds too but has the support just fine.

It's gonna be one of those story tales like a bedroom story 100 years from now. Something like, "There once was a time of two greats", that'll be told like some sort of football mythology or something.

Best Messi Ronaldo video I’ve seen. It’s so good bro.👏👏👏❤️‍🔥

To me it’s always been the fact that Messi can easily be the best player on the pitch without scoring where as Ronaldo especially when he hit his 30s was a bit of non factor when he didn’t score

I’m just grateful that I got to live in an era where 2 of the greatest players existed at the same time. If Messi wins I’m happy if Ronaldo wins I’m happy. If one loses I’m not happy. I think the “rivalry” would be less toxic if people were more grateful for football giving us 2 legends 🔥

Wow what a beautiful story illustratling the Greatness of these two TITANS

I believe that both of these players were great but a bit unfair. The media pressured them into a long rivalry and that’s how they were able to win multiple Ballan D’ors.

They are both the goats. They both respect each other no matter what, meanwhile both fan base do not respect each other which is sad

Sad to see it end ❤

Cope. Messi is light years ahead and better than

@captainfalconmain6576

8 күн бұрын

people like him an this video are the problem

Here before this blows up

There is so much to say about both. One thing I would like to add was their leadership skill. While both being important leaders to their team, Ronaldo developed the skills earlier then Messi and pushed his team forward while Messi relied for a longer time on player like Xavi and Iniesta. Both are in the end exceptional leaders now for their team espically in their national teams. The only critique for Ronaldo is that he doesn't step down in Portugal which will leave a negative mark in that area.

Keep up the content man

@ehzardo

26 күн бұрын

much more to come 🤝

Messi won