Humans are so crafty when it comes to killing each other

@ogrehaslayers605

4 жыл бұрын

SBTRIS it’s why aliens haven’t tried to get us yet. We might find a really nifty way to take ‘em out. Go space Orks!

@benetasuku6155

4 жыл бұрын

Every successive civilization kills better than the one before it.

@AusyG

4 жыл бұрын

Basically all of human existence our weapons can be described as throwing rocks, hit him with the stick and stab him with the pointy stick

@Squee7e

4 жыл бұрын

@@AusyG And then came the explosives...

@JoelLTurner

4 жыл бұрын

If we would only expend as much effort in helping each other as we do killing each other...how far ahead would we be ?

“I can’t pull it out, so i just have to abandon it.” best relationship advice i’ve ever heard.

@earthman4222

4 жыл бұрын

Um, I am not going to abandon my little buddy no matter what.

@giantlobsterboy644

4 жыл бұрын

I am not sure if that's what he or she said...?

@vincentprime740

4 жыл бұрын

@@earthman4222 no, abandon the other thing ;)

@ghexhsdhujvcfbsdhucvrej5452

4 жыл бұрын

Best father-daughter relationship advice thanks

@berghesein

4 жыл бұрын

You got the glue down there?

The this soft iron shaft was also an innovation. It was intentionally made to bend easily, which rendered the pilum useless by an enemy that could retrieve one from a shield or fallen comrade. And after the battle, the spent pila could be gathered up and easily repaired by removing the bent shaft via the innovative pin system and replacing it with a new one. The old ones could then be reforged into new pila heads. Roman industrialization of warfare was one of the main forces driving their conquest of the explored world.

@ranjan_v

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks for sharing

@bubson2981

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks squange

@mystfawn8774

3 жыл бұрын

This is the bit they missed and i felt was important!

@jakubcidlik

3 жыл бұрын

Roman recycling was better than 21st century one.

@nospam3327

3 жыл бұрын

Good point. "Explored world" is an interesting euphemism for ethnocentric western imperialism though.

In Caesar's book, he described that the Barbarian legions would overlap their shields in a defensive line, and his legions would throw their pilums at the site of overlap, pinning the shields together and forcing their enemies to drop them.

@ThePamastymui

3 жыл бұрын

Greek defence formation? It would be a shame...

@harleyfagan9637

3 жыл бұрын

Big brain plays

@hia5235

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePamastymui Hes describing the Shield Wall used by the Germans and Gauls for thousands of years.

@dragosd8992

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePamastymui the Greeks had bronze shields. I doubt this technique would have worked against them

@intractablemaskvpmGy

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragosd8992 A thin veneer of bronze over linen or wood sufficient against sword strokes and spear jabs would hardly stop a pilum. Can you imagine a full bronze shield and what it would weigh? The Romans defeated the Greeks handily.

Everybody’s got a plan till somebody throws a pilum at their chest armor.

@terrancemaginnis8735

4 жыл бұрын

Bill Bright learn to zig zag.

@neddevine7692

4 жыл бұрын

@@terrancemaginnis8735 after you've learnt to ghost through your buddies

@elijones7926

4 жыл бұрын

Terrance Maginnis i read this as "learn to zug zug"-orc peon from original warcraft.

@sabir2008

4 жыл бұрын

@@terrancemaginnis8735 Easier said than done when the whole legion throws their pila at once

@terrancemaginnis8735

4 жыл бұрын

Sabir Badri That’s when somersaults come in handy.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a shield is a good guy with a pilum!

@leonardoflorentin

3 жыл бұрын

It's in the cesarean second amendment, I tell you what.

@justsomeguy1671

3 жыл бұрын

As if the romans were good

@tasnimulsarwar9189

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy1671 yes, they were.

@justsomeguy1671

3 жыл бұрын

@@tasnimulsarwar9189 so conquesting small villages and starting wars is good to you?

@aurelien5747

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy1671 yes because Gaule (France back then) was a small village

When you consider the many of Rome’s enemies had only a shield for armor, yes, it is very effective. Arrows get stuck on the shield, but it’s still usable. The pilum effective renders the man defenseless.

@jerrybroderick2858

3 жыл бұрын

Many did have armor, but most armor was focused on being added protection behind the shield, similar to all throughout history, so a man without a shield was a dead man, armor or no. Your point still stands though, most of the threats they faced had basically no armor.

@Monotony619

3 жыл бұрын

But surely Rome’s enemies not having armour, isn’t Rome’s fault. I suppose having pride and not wearing armour is cool and all until your guts spill out infront of you in some field where no one will remember your name (I’ve been playing a lot of total war:Rome 2, so forgive me if I hold a grudge)

@pavel9652

3 жыл бұрын

What a great presentation. I am glad I have found this video. The pilum was a simple yet effective weapon!

@linming5610

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerrybroderick2858 rome's enemies do have armors... that's why they kept losing to the parthians and later to the sassanids. Their pilums got discarded replaced by plumbata.

@blairmarshall544

3 жыл бұрын

Well done you basically just said what he said

Typical range for the first volley was just 20 meters, with the second thrown immediately - possibly at point blank range of under 7 meters (20ft). The first volley would have struck randomly and caused an immediate slowing of the enemy charge as men would be trying to get around those whose shields were tent staked or other wise being tossed down, causing a tripping situation. Those rushing forward from behind would be jammed against others ahead. Then the second volley would begin landing among the tightened mass, causing lots of casualties and further breaking the momentum of the charge. With the enemy charge hopefully blunted, the Romans would draw swords from spitting distance and move forward, possibly at a walk because we have very few records of EXACTLY what a Roman charge looked like. My study tells me that the centurions would have been able to call out what kind of terminal advance was to be exercised. Roman centurions were flexible and able men, like todays NCO's. If the enemy was within 10feet, no charge might be indicated - just a quick few steps in good order, and then contact. Other situations where the Romans were the attacker, might call for a quick run up to pilum range, volleys, then a quick walk to contact. Running into terminal contact was something it seems the Romans avoided. It would have caused deviations in the formations which was the MAIN METHOD of victory the Romans possessed. It wasn't manpower. Typically the Romans were out numbered considerably. It was disciplined ranks and reliance upon the guy next to you that won battles. ONce they were in contact with a hopefully confused and struggling enemy, the gladius was the perfect sword for the job. There would have been no room to swing a longer sword or ax. Jabbing and stabbing with a short, thick weapon was a well thought out and proven tactic.

@littlemouse7066

3 жыл бұрын

this is a good analysis of how the Romans did fight.

@osmoze47300

3 жыл бұрын

thx for sharing man

@chosone2

3 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder why the Romans switched from a short stabbing Gladius to the longer slashing Spatha in their later military reforms

@OutnBacker

3 жыл бұрын

@Andrew they have been written already. What we know about the Roman way if war is somewhat sketchy, but deductive reasoning, educated analysis, and common sense can fairly accurately fill the gaps. The details I've described are learned from riot control methods experienced in South Korea in the 1980,s. They made a science of it and included extensive research into the Tactics used by ancient armies, with the Romans being found the best. In those riots, objects were thrown at police and mass charges against a sheild wall were the norm. The police used jabbing movements with batons, whereas the wild, undisciplined students used sign stakes as longer bashing weapons, similar to the difference between the gladius and the longer Gallic swords. People haven't changed much in hand to hand conflict, so the Koreans replicated, by deductive reasoning, the tactics of tight cohesion and strict discipline. The results are far less injury to police and demonstrators. The Koreans taught these Roman methods to riot police all over the world

@sty0pa

3 жыл бұрын

@@chosone2 The infantry spatha was basically a slightly longer gladius, just gave them more reach without any real loss of effect - it still wasn't a slashing weapon. The cavalry spatha (from which it was descended) was still mostly a slasher, for obvious reasons.

1:53 the words every Man fears.

@F15ElectricEagle

4 жыл бұрын

and some women too.

@revimfadli4666

4 жыл бұрын

@@F15ElectricEagle so most women likes it?

@darthknightwingphoenix2081

4 жыл бұрын

mistgawel 😂

@styns491

4 жыл бұрын

This genuinely made me laugh, thank you

@alikayseri2270

4 жыл бұрын

You made me laugh. Thank you.

This will get nerfed during the next patch.

@aaroncook5928

4 жыл бұрын

How long do the devs leave an OP weapon like this in? These sandbox testing and beta testers are blind.

@SeeFoodDie

4 жыл бұрын

Quality QA testing are hard to come by

@niccatipay

4 жыл бұрын

Updated localization files.

@Summernightsandneonlights

4 жыл бұрын

@@niccatipay whats that ?

@connerschupp4543

3 жыл бұрын

bannerlord fans wish

“Unlike Saxons or Danes, the Romans were clever” -Brother Pyrlig

@jonesie_boi

3 жыл бұрын

I’m currently watching this show.

@pesii1452

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonesie_boi what show?

@raymondjames1341

3 жыл бұрын

@Gaius Julius Caesar. It's a series called the last kingdom based on the books by bernard cornwell. In a nutshell it's about the Saxon defense and then counter attack of the Danes heathen army.

@adamgross1157

3 жыл бұрын

@@pesii1452 fantastic show, highly recommended

@Krossiant

3 жыл бұрын

When your lead character has more dead wives than seasons >>>

The guy who does the narration for this also voices caesar in fallout:NV

@hennerzz3460

3 жыл бұрын

very cool :)

@codyvandal2860

3 жыл бұрын

thats amazing he sounds nothing like him

@estevanpena2188

3 жыл бұрын

Yoooo he does low key!!

@travisbeck8184

3 жыл бұрын

Nah bro it’s John Doman Damon to Doman

@CatnamedMittens

3 жыл бұрын

You can tell

Germanic tribes *Charge at the Roman lines* The Roman Legionaries: Y E E T

@dzonbrodi514

3 жыл бұрын

Yeetus maximus!

@eleethtahgra7182

3 жыл бұрын

Thus...they didnt charge later on. They ambush.

@rustomkanishka

3 жыл бұрын

@@eleethtahgra7182 are we talking about the same thing? Quintillius Varre, Legionis Redde?

@allenrosales9738

3 жыл бұрын

@@rustomkanishkawhen the trees start speaking Germanic:

@silhouette6158

3 жыл бұрын

When segestes snitches

Multiply this by thousands of legionnaires. Disrupt a charge, neutralize shields, cause casualties and obstacles for the following ranks of attackers. Then move in with the disciplines shield wall and the buzzsaw of the gladius. No wonder this worked well on tribal fighting units.

@ColdHawk

4 жыл бұрын

teutonalex - Ah, a Roman Legion fanboy I see!

@Squee7e

4 жыл бұрын

@@ColdHawk Is he really? I don't see him leaving the matter of an objective statement. Anyways it was quite effective like you can see.

@HighWarlordJC

4 жыл бұрын

@Rob M Advances in military weaponry and strategy have always led to great conquests and empires. Thutmose III's Egypt, Alexander's Greece, Caesar's Rome, Napoleon's France, Peter's Russia, and Hitler's Germany; (edit) and Truman's atom bomb.

@lionelhutz5137

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the flaming onagers

@MK_ULTRA420

4 жыл бұрын

@@ColdHawk Celtic cope

The Romans had a long history of learning from their defeats and coming back with the enemies weapons and tactics refined.

@riseALK

2 күн бұрын

Except in matters of cavalry. The Huns have come....

0:23 I love to watch the passion of this man. His face as he talks, his eyes light up, his body is full of energy. This man is truly into his passion. And he gets up like a young boy, not an old man. Remarkable. I want to find such a passion in my life.

“Unmatched ranged weapon” until some steppe boy on a horse with a bow shows up.

@MatPost

4 жыл бұрын

Probably during that time the Romans misplaced their pilums somewhere else.

@LordVader1094

4 жыл бұрын

Even Mongol horse archers weren't as deadly as this. They exhausted enemies, they didn't do most of the killing. That part was left to the Mongol heavy cavalry with lances.

@duncanohio

4 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 yeah, but you cant throw a pilum at a charging enemy if they never charge you unless you are exhausted or routed.

@berzerkerslair1577

4 жыл бұрын

A bow can't pass a shield

@Jafmanz

4 жыл бұрын

@@berzerkerslair1577 oh really...

This would be the most annoying weapon to ever go against

@IronMaidenDoD

4 жыл бұрын

Gonna need something other than a wooden shield to defend yourself.

@jakeb3157

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of armies at this time had javelins of some sort so I'm sure quite a few people did

@notjohndoe6878

4 жыл бұрын

If your the frontline your basically dead

@funnyfacemegee7271

4 жыл бұрын

Needs a nerf tbh

@therockmanxx

4 жыл бұрын

Report Enemy Team Abuse Glitch

The pilum, also known as the "yeet and delete"

@WexMajor82

3 жыл бұрын

In modern times, that's the Panzerfaust.

@prot07ype87

16 күн бұрын

yelete

Pilum: Help me step shield, I'm stuck

To add: The point of the pilum was case hardened steel. The rest of the metal bar was intentionally left untreated. Because if the thrown pilum gets bent by an enemy pulling it out of a shield (1:51); the said enemy cant throw it back. Ingenious if you ask me

@RoskinGreenrake

4 жыл бұрын

Heh but then they can't re-use the pilums themselves if they were to advance gaining the ground where they were lying

@diegoveloso3rd

4 жыл бұрын

@@RoskinGreenrake Each roman also had 3 pila to throw. Once all 3 had been thrown, they would switch to their gladius.

@sunofpeter2

4 жыл бұрын

the also started putting a wooden peg to replace the weakened steel. the weapon was then repairable by the Romans

@duncanrobertson6472

4 жыл бұрын

Most scholars have actually moved away from this idea as it doesn’t have much evidence behind it. The primary use of the pilum was to do as much damage as possible. The design of the head already made it difficult to remove from a shield, and intentionally weakening the construction would reduce its armor and shield piercing capability.

@RoskinGreenrake

4 жыл бұрын

@@diegoveloso3rd Then having three to throw they could get their opponents with another one if they try to reach around their own shield to chop the wooden part of it off so as to keep being able to use it. heh

"I can't pull it out, so all I do is abandon" That was also my dad's excuse

@deduzz

4 жыл бұрын

Cool story bro

@Stanzi18

3 жыл бұрын

@@deduzz you the dad?

@kobegeens2720

3 жыл бұрын

Nice one

@zamlent2492

3 жыл бұрын

Owo

"Mike Loades and his team prepare to demonstrate how to tie a Granny Knot." 0:15

@mikeoxmaul45

3 жыл бұрын

⏹ 👵

This guy always has THE best historical essays/shows (whatever you want to title them). His program "Going Medieval" is fantastic.

Everyone gangsta until the pila fly

@ehonda7831

4 жыл бұрын

I see your Latin

"Karsten is the barbarian." - It's always the Germans.

@jayk4828

4 жыл бұрын

On March 12, in the year of our lord, 2020, at 12:00 am (local time). I will have it be known, That *I* , SON OF MY FATHER, was this comments 69th like.

@Shitbird3249

4 жыл бұрын

Limp praise be to thee

@christov4202

4 жыл бұрын

Love his smirk too

@revolvency

4 жыл бұрын

@@christov4202 "heh, you got me old man"

@owdeezstrauz1268

4 жыл бұрын

or so the germans would have us believe 🤔

I never knew barbarians were so small in the olden days

@wondertome2023

3 жыл бұрын

Nah. Barbarians actually slithered very quickly towards their enemies.

@Aragorn62

3 жыл бұрын

It's like Frodo Baggins chargin at you.

@77gravity

3 жыл бұрын

@Dank Farrik There were MANY types and sizes of shields, the one demonstrated is clearly not as big as the holder. Some were larger, some were smaller. Some were only the size of a dinner plate (often called a Targe or Buckler)

@77gravity

3 жыл бұрын

@Dank Farrik Not a good or funny joke then. You'll need to work on that.

@InfamousMax

3 жыл бұрын

That was when they tried to invade Ireland and had to fight the leprechauns first.

Mike Loades is the ultimate medieval history geek, he actually jumped out of a running horse wearing full plate armor, just to prove that mobility wasn't an issue for that type of armor!

@WS_00

6 ай бұрын

How did he get in the horse to start with?

@rickymartin4457

5 ай бұрын

​@@WS_00 With his horse keys obviously, duh!

@WS_00

5 ай бұрын

@@rickymartin4457 genius, why didn’t I think of that!

@rickymartin4457

5 ай бұрын

@@WS_00 It happened a lot to me too in the past, I underestimated the complexity of medieval built horses for a long time.

It was at that moment the saxons realised the MDF sheilds would be their downfall.

@YodaAndCo

4 жыл бұрын

Saxons came after the Roman empire but I like your comment 😉

@Nathand0992

4 жыл бұрын

Saxons are Romans

@jacobmast6217

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nathand0992 wrong

@Nathand0992

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Mast its called 🧬

@Nathand0992

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Mast 🧬🧬🧬🧬right 🧬🧬🧬🧬🧬🧬🧬

Accidentally read 'Roman Plum' and watched out of curiosity. Left educated.

@LeeMinhaoTheMinsterLee

4 жыл бұрын

Roman plum was left unmatched as a ranged weapon

@nachoman2713

4 жыл бұрын

@@LeeMinhaoTheMinsterLee the ultimate pommel to end it rightly

@darthdredz

4 жыл бұрын

Haha

@rubino7

4 жыл бұрын

And we are all very proud of you

@markbegley1564

4 жыл бұрын

lol

That's like the armor piercing bullet invention of that time.

The passion this man has for ancient fighting and weaponry is wonderful. I always enjoy watching his demonstrations

This is the best video to understand how pilum works I've ever seen! Thank you.

@nuperaa6617

4 жыл бұрын

This is a paper shield

@DEV3N87

4 жыл бұрын

The real point of the pilum was that once it was thrown, it would be useless to use again.

@MrRjizz

3 жыл бұрын

@Harupert Beagleton whats your point exactly?

@grisialucens8162

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRjizzI'll try to answer in their place, but what happens at that time is a poorly done editing going from a take where the pilum was barely stuck in the shield (most visible in the view from above at 00:58 - 00:59) to a take where it went all the way. Now in itself making several takes is normal, since mistakes can happen, and throwing a pilum the right way may not be the easiest thing to do (idk, never tried). However, not telling about it and doing this mediocre editing is at best veeeery suspicious and at worse just a blatant lie, depending how you see it

It was extremely effective against Boudica’s army. It was decimated by rows and rows of Pilums flying at the charging Britons mostly with no armor or helmets. 15,000 Romans Soldiers annihilating 80,000 men in one battle

@MajesticSkywhale

4 жыл бұрын

Obliterated not decimated

@Varlwyll

4 жыл бұрын

Epic

@Rucka_Inc.

4 жыл бұрын

It's in bad taste to use the word "decimate/d" incorrectly when you are discussing Roman history.

@abuhajaar2533

4 жыл бұрын

Those numbers are highly disputed. Romans are known for counting the civilians too for propaganda reasons

@MrSporkster

4 жыл бұрын

It was remarkably effective against an attacker charging at high speed.

Mike was my stage fight instructor at Drama College in the late 80's. Consummate professional. Keep Rockin' Mike :-)

“Pilums are an umatched range weapon” I don’t know I thinks rifles are pretty good ranges weapons.

@commodoresan7275

3 жыл бұрын

Wait till you hear about ballistic missiles

@AceDan-gc9po

3 жыл бұрын

@@commodoresan7275 yall talking mad doo doo if your within 20 yards or so

@themarimbaguy1478

3 жыл бұрын

@@AceDan-gc9po yeah bro 20 yards, woo boy so far

@malachi9821

3 жыл бұрын

Guns???? Have you ever heard of a nuclear warhead?

@dennisrichards2540

3 жыл бұрын

Donno Mark, depends on how good your throw is = )

That dudes attempts to pull the pilum out looked like he was selling it on a bad infomercial.

@darcuriousgeorge5457

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly he could've easily pulled it out with some force

@MaxUltimata

4 жыл бұрын

@@darcuriousgeorge5457 It's not like pulling it out of pudding. It's solid wood meant to block all manners of weapon vs. a rod of metal (a flexible rod of metal, which is even worse), and that's in a peaceful environment. In the middle of a battle with hundreds, if not thousands of soldiers on each side, stopping to pull something out of your shield is just out of the question.

@swahilimaster

4 жыл бұрын

The issue is the weight of the weapon and the fact that you are completely open while you try to pull it out. You also need a free hand which means if you are holding a weapon you have a difficult decision to make, and likely only a few seconds to make it.

@richardrobbin2225

4 жыл бұрын

And if you order now we'll *throw* in another Pilum at no additional cost!!

@Hieroglyph777

4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxUltimata It was sawdust and glue, not wood.

"Unmatched ranged weapon" *Throws from 2 feet away*

@jonathankowatch6947

4 жыл бұрын

I practiced on my own with no training and hit targets that size 20+ meters away. Did it that close so they wouldn't miss and have to waste money on a reshoot.

@georgewright3949

4 жыл бұрын

I mean if you throwing it at a barbarian horde you dont exactly have to be accurate

@user-zo9qo9jv7y

3 жыл бұрын

Constantine Trian roman hastati would quickly throw one of their pilums, then another and then they would charge in, giving enemy no time to recover from shock and all those pilums that stuck in shields and armor. It is possibly that the second pilum was thrown from 2 feet away. It is not a skirmishing weapon, but a precursor one

@edwardhumphries8806

3 жыл бұрын

100s thrown then a second wave dis sheilding more or killing the first ,now form up sheilds tight stab with shirt sword what a machine

@PowerMetalWizard

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyleminks6374 Roman general Germanicus says hi........

Such a good and simple demonstration without any unnecessary story telling around! Great, short and informativ video!

This is probably the best Pilum test I've ever seen. Really puts it into perspective.

1:08 Ah, the traditional barbarian pressboard shield

@kignacio

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, if it was 10ply or something decent, they would have mentioned it.

@jonothandoeser

3 жыл бұрын

cowhide

@sidviscous5959

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize they had Masonite back then . . .

@realitychampion8022

3 жыл бұрын

Saw the same thing.. particle board.. a kids plastic arrow would go through sawdust and glue

@WestOfEarth

3 жыл бұрын

So what is it you're trying to say? The Romans didn't use the pilum?

231 warriors of Boudica's tribe disliked this.

@liljhomicidel69

4 жыл бұрын

Weak bro 😂

@riverbullshark

4 жыл бұрын

Hunt them to the ends of the Earth and crucify them'

@mr.k418

4 жыл бұрын

Cyril Euscobar they were the only survivors.

@jkjkhardcore666

4 жыл бұрын

It's almost 400 now ,boudica tribes are preparing for another attack looks like we'll need to start making pilums.

@kyleminks6374

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize Boudicca was on purpose marching to her death right? They new they were going to die, they sacked three Roman cities before encountering the giant army in that field, it was a perfect advantage for the romans and they knew this and still attacked to deal as much damage to the romans and last I checked Rome fell apart after her

“I used to be an adventurer like you, until I got shot with a pilum to the knee” -Whiterun guard

@emperornero2902

3 жыл бұрын

Plus, its "but then i took an arrow to the knee." So that mistake was completely unnecessary. *E* for effort.

@TheTurboman23

3 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't have taken that sweet roll

"What's a barbarian?" "Non-Romans" said the Romans, being invaded by non-Romans

@DrShankyy

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, Rome wont fall

@huggniceman4975

3 жыл бұрын

At least half of it. But it's not in Rome anymore so let's give it a new name

@scintillam_dei

3 жыл бұрын

Parthia was the real reason Rome fell. Without Parthia to keep Rome engaged in the east with most of its resources, it would have easily overcome the blond and brunette savages of northern Europe.

@DSSlocksmiths

3 жыл бұрын

@@scintillam_dei Aren't you forgetting a huge plague that killed millions, and the great famine caused by two volcanos? That is what reduced them to a shadow. Plus there was the constant overthrow of the civilian leaders who tried to bring the military back under some sort of control. Rome fell, but it was COMPLICATED.

@scintillam_dei

3 жыл бұрын

@@DSSlocksmiths Well, I never said it was only one reason, nor merely two. Their increasing degeneracy made them weaker and worthy of death so God brought a Scourge called ATTILA whose name doesn't sound as cool when you know it means "lil' daddy O!"

Also once the Pilum penetrates the shield the Roman can step on the shaft and force the opponents shield down and open them for a strike.

@MR-nl8xr

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds as if Roman Soilders were really full of themselves to believe that as soon as their enemy dropped their shields it was a decisive victory.

@marcusporciuscato6404

4 жыл бұрын

@@MR-nl8xr It's just a statistical reality.

@chrisreid5745

4 жыл бұрын

Then I pull out a pistol and end them

@victorqwilleran3331

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Martin This, this, this! Fighting in battle was nothing like dueling, between jabbing spears and whistling arrows, a shieldless warrior on the Frontline was as good as dead.

@WashingtonTuna

4 жыл бұрын

@Trebonius Flonius What is your source for claiming it is a myth for both stepping and bending?

And that’s why I keep a pilum in my truck.

@firmanimad

4 жыл бұрын

Crafty. Never know when you're gonna get mugged by a Gaul warrior.

@Hibernicus1968

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, these are weapons of war! They have no place on our streets.

@bucksfuttly1325

4 жыл бұрын

@@Hibernicus1968 ban assault pilae.

@Hibernicus1968

4 жыл бұрын

@@bucksfuttly1325 And we need more pilum-free zones.

@brianbullivant4753

4 жыл бұрын

Sergio, my semi- auto handgun will trump the pointy stick in your truck.

Keep in mind. The Roman throwing it has trained. They would be very physically strong

@bemotivated8443

2 жыл бұрын

They also had to March over 20 miles a day so yes they would be very strong

Reading about it, trying to imagine it is not the same as seeing it in practice. This was great, thanks!

That “barbarian” didn’t say a single word.

@ivancolonna7520

4 жыл бұрын

iahmed he could feel the pain of Alesia...

@nameslastnames3332

4 жыл бұрын

Absolute savage

@funwithphobias

4 жыл бұрын

"BAR BAR BAR BAR"

@IndraSunrise

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn't speak Latin.

@alexandercrush

4 жыл бұрын

funwithphobias Be funny if he actually said that .

**roman pilum unmatched as ranged weapon** Mexico: hold my sandal

@veniaminmurashko2513

4 жыл бұрын

*Chancla

@winn305

4 жыл бұрын

@Marksman King ha 😲😂

@darkincognito3826

4 жыл бұрын

Are you the guy that's everywhere

@thisiswhatilike54

4 жыл бұрын

LA CHANCLA DE LOS MUERTO!

I'm just thinking of all the poor souls who were pinned to their shield on a battlefield. I couldn't imagine the helplessness it must have distilled into the mind.

Short, and clear video ! Goes directly to the point ! How i like it !

Smithsonian: "The Roman pilum Was unmatched as a ranged weapon" Parthian Archers: "Hold my fermented horse milk"

@pavarottiaardvark3431

4 жыл бұрын

@Александр oh, absolutely. But the Parthians make the best example because the Romans really struggled against them, specifically because of their horse-archer tactics. As you may know, the Romans were unmatched *when they could fight a battle on their own terms* and had the civil and logistical skills to make sure that was often the case. But the Parthians gave them trouble precisely because their warfare was designed to deny the Romans advantageous battle.

@sugoi9680

4 жыл бұрын

@@pavarottiaardvark3431 Did the Parthians ever gain another victory like Carrhae over Rome before they were taken over by the Sassanids?

@akemisayaka8905

4 жыл бұрын

No people also often overlook the victories the romans usually ended up thrashed upon their enemies in revenge later. Some general was smart of enough to use slingers and terrain and basically checked Parthia for a long time and they even got their city or capital I think sacked a few times. Same thing happened to the germanic tribes after the forest ambush, rome came back and laid a smacked down and recovered their standards and would eventually lead to their border along that area for the rest of its history.

@joeessig3550

4 жыл бұрын

PavarottiAardvark-I appreciate your insight on the parthians. Out of curiousity, what are your general ideological leanings? I detect some subtle anti-imperial subtext-sort of a plucky love of the clever Parthian underdogs, and you portray the romans as elitist bureaucrats who didn’t like tough fights. I know you must know this, but just to be tedious, it’s worth noting that avoiding battles that aren’t a “sure thing” is one of the most essential strategies for remaining an utterly badass military. As smart as the Parthian tactics were, the “bureaucratic” efficiencies must also be looked at as ingenious military tactics, instead of just the fruits of institutional inertia. Any distinctions between the two are mostly surface level.

@pavarottiaardvark3431

4 жыл бұрын

@@sugoi9680 Nothing so crushing. Most of the other wars ended in stalemates. It was just very hard for Rome to project power out that hard, not to mention having their own internal strife from time to time (which the Parthians then took sides in). Rome's big win came in AD162 (or 161, should check) when they sacked the Pathian capital - almost 200 years after Carrhae, with more fighting carrying on inconclusively until 217AD. (It's weird for us in the modern era to imagine a three century war). Eventually Parthia fell to the Sassanids, who would go onto have many splendid/bloody wars with Rome's own successor, Byzantium.

"My garden is smaller than your Rome, but my pilum is harder than your sternum...." (Asterix in Britain)

@andreasmerkel5717

3 жыл бұрын

@Rod 1984 Way more better than Trump....

A pilum was a cheap, mass-produced weapons. Two were issued to every legionary before battle. They were thrown before the lines met, after which the legionary would use his sword. (Gladius) After the battle they were - assuming that the Romans won - collected and if possible, repaired. A legion had smiths, tools and mobile workshops attactched.

@Chraan

Жыл бұрын

The last sentence is unsurprising, every army to be organized enough to be considered an army had all kinds of workers.

@KirbyZhang

Жыл бұрын

would the back rows receive pilums?

Often the metal shaft was held on to the wooden shaft by two pins. One was iron and one was a wooden peg. When the pilum hit the shield the wooden pin would shear. The barbarian would have a six foot long pole hinged in the middle flopping around on his shield. The Roman soldiers could step on the wooden shaft, pulling the shield down. Another type of pilum just relied on the bending of the iron shaft for the same effect.

"we developed this test where we throw this shield at this stationary spear"

@NihilSineDeo09

3 жыл бұрын

As long as relative speed is about the same, it makes no difference

@V.D.22

3 жыл бұрын

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) true

@lespectator4962

3 жыл бұрын

But it makes perfect sense though, throwing it when you're being charged is the most ideal time to use it because of the enemies momentum. It may have not worked all the time but when it did it was decisive.

Truly ingenious. Even as a Latinist who studies the Roman Empire and Republic and spent years learning about the Romans in detail, I've never truly appreciated the Pilum until seeing this.

@AvrahamYairStern

3 жыл бұрын

@Rod 1984 what?

1:54 Deadbeat dads:

Cracking video, in 2 mins I have learnt more about the point of the interestingly shaped pilum than in the rest of my whole life, beautifully explained.

Man I love Mike Loades lol he’s so energetic and loves what he does

@krybling

4 жыл бұрын

pretty bad experiment, laughable even

Love how you still used the footage from when it didn't go through the first time

@ShaiYammanee

4 жыл бұрын

chasebh89 - I think I’ll give him a pass. He’s no spring chicken and obviously didn’t spend a lifetime training to be a legionnaire.

@krybling

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShaiYammanee yea but imagine you do educational research test with two different result and just dont mention the result you didnt want. he should simply have done a gravity test for the laws of physics and not a stabbing test, also there is no other holes in the shield when he shows how it went all the way through and the shield is made out of cardbox wood, its so bad that not seeing the second throw other than a close up zoom makes you wonder how legit this is

@Lestweforgot

3 жыл бұрын

@@krybling Watch it again and realize the shield cart is being vigorously pulled, it was one take but the cart stopping suddenly caused the spear to slip out a bit.

@xBrabus76

3 жыл бұрын

Theres a 1st hole every1 saw!!

0:14 This man tried to tie a square knot and made a granny knot instead Smh

I always imagine how horrific these puppies were to phalanx formations. Shields become useless and the lack of mobility and tight formations make the piercing barrages all the more devastating.

I didn't know anything about this and, honestly, I'm in awe. Imagine going to war against the Romans along side your friends and family and knowing that, purely out probability and terrible odds, either at least one of them, or you, was gonna die.

@captain9470

4 жыл бұрын

Romans never conquered Germany though.

@muscledavis5434

6 ай бұрын

​@@captain9470they conquered a lot of it and lost a big part after Varus' defeat, but a lot of the area of modern Germany was still Roman for centuries. I live about 50 km north of the Limes and there is still a lot of Germany south of that. 2 Roman provinces were established, Germania superior and Germania inferior. The lands north east of the border were called Germania Magna and were not conquered again (there were some campaigns but not for expansion)

History guy: Yeah, it's going to be rough. Sturdy wood and all. History guy: Went through it like butter!

@Auriflamme

3 жыл бұрын

It looked like 1/2 inch plywood to me, a knife could stab through that with ease.

@lespectator4962

3 жыл бұрын

But thats what its meant to do... Lol

Also pleasing to see someone enthusiastically enthralled in their craft

What a very capable and lethal weapon, so much thought has went into every part of that spear.

I was taught that the pilum was also designed to bend on impact so it could not be thrown back. On the first impact, while the shaft is straight, it penetrates, but then it bends rendering it useless!

The shield was my plans for 2020 and the pilum is coronavirus

@gentlebabarian

3 жыл бұрын

Lol can't relate more!

@pablopinzon1370

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Great demonstration!

what a beautiful weapon and so well constructed :-)

Crossbow : Am I a joke to you?!?

@bitsnpieces11

4 жыл бұрын

How about 12 crossbow bolts hitting the same spot.

@gwine9087

4 жыл бұрын

It didn't exist then.

@ryanjones7681

4 жыл бұрын

Crossbow was not invented yet.

@lordnecrotis5517

4 жыл бұрын

Ballista and Scorpio = big crossbows

@gwine9087

4 жыл бұрын

@@alaric_3015 True. My mistake, I was thinking about Europe.

The biggest thing about the pilum was it couldn't be reused against you. It bent when it hit. The one(s) they are using in this video are actually harder than the originals. They would strike and bend badly. Even if the enemy could pick them up from the battle field, they were usually bent just from hitting the ground. Not supplying your enemy with a weapon to throw back at you was an excellent idea.

I miss raids. Only 90s kids remember the barbarian raids.

@7636kei

3 жыл бұрын

OH YOU X)

@xBrabus76

3 жыл бұрын

What about raiding the Capitol??

I had always read/heard about how the pilum would foal up the shield and was made so it could not be cut or removed easily. I had not realized until seeing this demo, the first purpose of the design was to punch through the shield and stab the shield holder! The combination of dead or wounded men with fouled-up shields must have helped break up the enemy line enough for the Romans to draw gladius and counter-charge into them.

wow so much thought process went into designing these ancient weapons truly unbelievable

I love his frustration at not being able to free the pilum. You know millions felt the same through history.

@basrengangetch.2042

3 жыл бұрын

My pilum never penetrared any shield F

Maybe the most informing video on military history and tactics under three minutes on Youttube

I’m home for lunch from work. This showed up in my recommendations. How does KZread know about how my morning went?!?!

Am I the only one that sees the cut where one shot the pilum is barely in it, then one shot it’s drilled through ?

@julianmunoz7836

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah there was 2 shots

@JohnDoukasPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Cody Menhennett I was also noticing the shield looks like particle board...if that means anything

@will5204

4 жыл бұрын

Hahah yeah I noticed too

@gaelannash2279

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, definitely a thing.

@PhilippeLarcher

4 жыл бұрын

No

“Sturdy piece of wood” = 1/4 inch particle board 😂

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

Most likely plywood. Which in all honesty is a more effective shield material, especially against puncturing weapons like a Pilum, than what they would have actually used.

@davidm8135

4 жыл бұрын

@@1337penguinman finally someone said it

@ryans6309

4 жыл бұрын

1337penguinman it looks effective for its sturdy ness to weight ratio but I’d imagine some type of metal shields were used back then

@Interrobang212

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryans6309 in this time period? Not as often. It was far more common to have a metal center around a wooden shield. Sometimes there would be a reinforcing metal ring. I'd imagine cost / crafting time was a large factor. Weight is also another huge issue.

@antonhelsgaun

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryans6309 metal was quite expensive

Great demo.

The thumbnail looks like a "tried this at home" disaster waiting to happen, but actually really well done!

It does appear they were barbaric. Was their shield made of compost plywood?

@siuolsretlaw8166

4 жыл бұрын

Styrafoam with balsa wood and paper covering! Lol

@yashasvinathan6932

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. They all belonged to the IKEA tribe.

@jerrybroderick2858

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenhawk352 throughout history, man would not square the shield, and to this day if you learn how to fight with a sword and shield they teach you to hold the shield as far forward as possible, and not square the shield as the edge provides more resistance.

@ememe1412

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenhawk352 on point three, the Roman skirmishers would've just thrown the pilum in volleys. The effective distance is only 15 to 20 yards. On the march towards the Roman line, their enemy's formation would've been harassed at successive ranges by ballista, slings and pilum. Their shield positioning is already considered. On the point of strategy, it's known that Romans would send a barrage from slings and ballista at the advancing line and when the shields moved (or the line squatted to defend projectiles overhead), skirmishers would charge the line and throw the pilum before retreating behind another line of skirmishers who would throw another volley. Any case, the pilum was not the deciding weapon. Its use was typical of skirmishing.

@ememe1412

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerrybroderick2858 this is not entirely true for using a scutum. The use of the scutum depends on the mode of combat being used which is normally based on unit formation. (The use of shield that you are describing is for individual combat with flat shields or bucklers.) The scutum is about a meter high and curved to leave about 2feet distance from the boss to the clad edges. This was for squaring the shield in tight formations (famously the testudo) while still being more maneuverable than interlocked shields (ie. aspis in phalanx formation.). When the Romans charged in a wedged formation, the scutum was held close to the body, gladius out, and used as a ram whilst stabbing with the gladius. (Why the gladius is short). Simply, when it's line to line, you have to square your shield and push against it. You can see to this day when a police riot line is charged. There's no other way to use the shield in that crush.

The romans were amazing. Armies still use their tactics today. Developing a weapon that can't be used against you. No wonder vikings started carrying two shields. One on their backs and one to defend. They're amazing people too. If you've ever seen a longboat you'll understand.

0:58 they used 2 different throws and spliced them together. I can’t unsee it now

Great demonstration.

This guy is so passionate about weapons. Always found him a pleasure to watch.

A couple of things : they weren't fighting against gauls with plywood shields, so I'd hardly take this as a good example of the penetrating power of a pilum. Second : the metal end of the pilum was fixed using one iron peg and one wooden one. The idea was on impact, the wooden peg would snap, bending the pilum at the joining point, making it even more awkward to have hanging out of your shield, and impossible to throw back.

@zee9709

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, i thought pilum should bending, this is not.

@vanlao6367

4 жыл бұрын

@@zee9709 It's because in this pilum, the rivet was held at the rear of the metal end. The Roman pilum has the rivet moved 2 inches up to the metal end, causing it to wobble after hitting the shield.

@RoninTF2011

4 жыл бұрын

In this video, the shield is rougly half and inch thick. plywood is much more resilient then a single piece wood of the same thickness

@kovona

4 жыл бұрын

There's no historic evidence that Roman pilums were meant to perform that way, it was something 19th century scholars made up.

@Smithsonian Channel How is this shield constructed? With hide facing and planks?

That was awesome and fascinating!

Me at 2:37 in the morning: I should really go to bed. KZread: PILUM

Everybody gangsta till the pilum makes u pasta

A cool fact is that the romans used to "loosen" the Pilum's connecting bolt so when you pulled it out of your shield the shaft disconnected and the pilum was left useless

@myparceltape1169

3 жыл бұрын

I can't argue with you but I had supposed that the thin metal shaft bent when it stopped moving and had to be fixed by the armourer after the fight.

@Andrey.youtube

2 жыл бұрын

Judging by the excavations, early darts were planted like shovels. The design has changed over the centuries. One mount is just speculation by historians.

Very good explaining

They also were designed to bend so they couldn’t be effectively thrown back at the Roman soldiers.

When the nails were intact, the pilum can be used as a conventional Spear for melee purposes. If you remove one of the nails then you can use it as a javelin but the enemy can't throw back.

Everybody's gangsta 'till pilla starts flyin'

This was a very efficient video. I like it