Charlie Watts had the decency to go to his funeral. He was always a class act.

@blitzplix01

10 күн бұрын

I always like Charlie. He was stoic, even-tempered, and pure business business.

@agbobier2657

10 күн бұрын

He sure was

@SuperAnimelover100

10 күн бұрын

When they got the news of Brian's death, Charlie Watts was apparently inconsolable. Charlie Watts guiltily admitted: “We took his one thing away, which was being in a a band.

@RoyBennett-dz2cq

9 күн бұрын

So did Bill Wyman

@erepsekahs

9 күн бұрын

I met Charlie Watts in Montreal, Canada, in (I think) 1972 or three. I chatted with him for about ten minutes. He was a real gentleman, quiet and with a good sense of humor.

Jagger, called him manipulative, the tea pot calling the kettle black.

@garethclark5489

5 күн бұрын

Takes one to know one sometimes

@williardbillmore5713

Күн бұрын

Jones was a psychopath and a manipulative malignant narcissist

@decimated550

Күн бұрын

@@garethclark5489 yeah but mick jagger had rock star Neanderthal energy. Poor runty Brian Jones had asthma, but chain smoked from shattered nerves, everyone knew his gf left him, he beat women...he was in over his head

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards both had their own legal woes due to their respective drug use. Jones was no saint, but neither were Jagger and Richards. The biggest problem with these three was battling egos.

@KarmicSalt

10 күн бұрын

no, the biggest problem is that mick and keith together are nothing short of evil. They way they treated Jones and the way they lie about him now. They forget there are people still around that know the real story.

@jillkarlene

10 күн бұрын

Actually, Jagger wasn't a big druggie.

@sventer198

10 күн бұрын

Uh no, the biggest problem was that Jones was no longer putting his work as a band member first nor taking anything serious. He was the only guy who kept missing practice and who our not keep it together.

@peterbrigden2124

10 күн бұрын

When he died there was always a theory that Jagger and Richards had something to do with his drowning? Just like Robert Wagner watched why Natalie Wood drowned 🙈🙈😭😭😈😈😈

@cassandraunheeded

9 күн бұрын

The biggest problem was that Brian was unconscious most of the time.

I'm a fan of the early Rolling Stones, and that means when Brian Jones made essential musical contributions to the band. At that time you never knew how their new song would be. Which instruments would figure in them, which pre-world music vibe would be in it. I always knew that Brian Jones was the musical genius behind all that. As to drugs and all kind of rivalries, almost every group of these times was doing them.

@SuperAnimelover100

10 күн бұрын

Brian was the person that created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. He would pick up an autoharp or a flute or a glockenspiel or marimbas, and he would be able to do all of that kind of stuff.” Among the other instruments Jones played were the harmonica, sitar, organ, recorder, cello, trumpet, trombone, saxophone, oboe, and, of course, guitar. He made so many records successful because of that. Jones was in fact, the original public face of the band: the surliest and sauciest in press interviews, the most nattily dressed, the most lushly coiffed… and, most importantly, the most musically diverse. “I mean, he was brilliant musically in the early days.

@cassandraunheeded

9 күн бұрын

I don’t care. Brian was unconscious with drugs.

@1blastman

4 күн бұрын

@@SuperAnimelover100 Which makes his passing that much more tragic. He had all the talent to go to a higher level of musical excellence, and drugged it away. Even if he was murdered, his life at that time was committed to wasting away on drugs.

@jebrindle9380

4 күн бұрын

Sadly, Brian's drug fuelled life eventually took its toll as a useful band member. It also would have made it difficult for the band to tour in the USA.

@SuperAnimelover100

3 күн бұрын

@@1blastman Brian seemed much happier afterwards. Alexis Korner visited him in late June 1969 and noted that "Jones was happier than he had ever been" and Brian had demoed a few of his own songs in the weeks before his death.

Fun fact, when Jethro Tull played at the Rolling Stone's Rock and Roll Circus, Tommy Iommi was playing lead guitar for Tull

Brian was definitely the most talented stone!!✊🇨🇦

@dennisscalici8217

4 күн бұрын

He added a lot of color

@richarddelgado2723

2 күн бұрын

Not songwriting wise though 😮…. People somehow seem to forget about that one…..

@decimated550

Күн бұрын

@@richarddelgado2723 people say that to be charitable, but it is wrong. maybe he made some cool sounds as elements in songs, but he was no composer, just a experimenter.

Robert Johnson was the first member of the 27 Club. He died in 1938.

@user-xt8ij4wb5i

4 күн бұрын

The 27 Club is such a mundane concept. With a little research on let's say "Dead Rock Stars" you can find the 28,29, 30,31 club. I see your point, but a list doesn't always have to formed

@williardbillmore5713

Күн бұрын

So not only did Jones NOT found the Rolling Stones but he did not even found the 27 club either...Ha ha ha ha ha.

I think Jagger's comments concerning Brian Jones are honest and fair.

According to one excellent biography, Frank Thoroughgood and his workers had been allowed far too much freedom by B.J. when renovating his home. Brian gave them pretty much the run of the place and they abused the privilege and treated the place like their personal squat! Brian was finally getting his act together and realising that things had gone too far, tried to wind-up the arrangement and get them out. Frank took exception to this and a huge bust-up ensued. F.T. on his deathbed confessed to drowning Brian.

@chickyrogue8485

10 күн бұрын

Wow

@spotsterjon74cu

9 күн бұрын

I remember reading that account of the story!

@jibicusmaximus4827

9 күн бұрын

yes, was going to say bout the death bed confession too

@CharliesTrousers-od3lt

9 күн бұрын

I bought that book, "Who Killed Christopher Robin?" (Brian's house used to belong to AA Milne and there was a statue of Christopher Robin there, Winnie the Pooh's friend.) Along with "True Adventures of the Rolling Stones", the most important book on the band

@NovChivon

8 күн бұрын

brians head was held under water until he drowned probably in a headlock

Didn't He Start, The Rolling Stones, Group, ORIGINALLY????!!!!

@KarmicSalt

10 күн бұрын

Yes he did but he was no match for the evil of jagger richards.

@HektorBandimar

10 күн бұрын

He may well have been the guy who started the band, but he couldn't handle his part once they were all up and running as a successful band, what were the other members meant to do, all leave because Brian could no longer hack it?

@agbobier2657

10 күн бұрын

He sure was handsome. I tried to get my parents to let me go to the concert but they thought I was too young at 11 Yeats old. I did catch Steel Wheels in Vancouver though.

@CharliesTrousers-od3lt

9 күн бұрын

Ian Stewart started the band

@FranklinWilson-ev9dq

9 күн бұрын

@@CharliesTrousers-od3lt Yes! He And Ian!

Poor Brian. Rehab could have helped him. He was the most talented.

@garethclark5489

5 күн бұрын

Did he want to be helped though?

Wonder what Brian would think of his geriatric band mates dancing around and trying to twist their arthritic fingers in to chord shapes now...

He was the Boss! -- Inspiration, Founder, Teacher, and All Round Grand Master, Brian Jones made the Rolling Stones into the kind of band he wanted. They are still, to this day, his creation.

To eke out my student grant I took a summer job that year as a deck chair collector in London's Royal Parks. My pitch was Victoria Tower Gardens. The Stones' concert was held in a part of Hyde Park called the Cockpit, also one of our deck chair pitches, that backed onto the Serpentine. The concert became a memorial to Jones. We saw a good deal of it stage-side and the remainder from a rowing boat floating on the Serpentine with a picnic hamper. Happy days.

Perfectly logical statement from Jagger.

@jelkel25

10 күн бұрын

I can understand what he said, I was an egotistical idiot late teens early 20s. You have the trials of an unknown group that couldn't get spat on if you were on fire then all these people treating you like you are something special when it takes off, that's a huge dopamine rollercoaster ride, you are going to be a bit hostile to anyone who potentially threatens said rollercoaster ride.

Anita Pallenberg largely contributed to the demise of Brian Jones.

@garethclark5489

5 күн бұрын

No, I hint it is clear that Brian had a type of personality disorder from a young age. Who knows why? Maybe somewhere in his childhood his needs were not fulfilled. In any case Anita and Brian’s relationship was not healthy but she was not directly responsible for his demise.

@tjroelsma

5 күн бұрын

@@garethclark5489 Agreed, Brian Jones always seemed prone to being self-destructive and his drug abuse kicked things in high gear. Jones also seemed prone to self-pity and always thought someone else was to blame for his mistakes/f*** ups. Ultimately it was Jones' lack of self-control and reliability that got him booted out of the Rolling Stones.

@williardbillmore5713

Күн бұрын

Nonsense!...Anita left Jones fot Keith because Brian was a manipulative abuser and an asshole....Brian was well on his way to self destruction before he even met Palenberg.

First, our favorite narrator again! I don't think Jagger's answer was twisted at all. I think the group's animosity towards Jones (who probably was afflicted with bipolar disorder) was the inevitable result of his persistently contemptuous attitude towards the group. I am curious as to why someone would hear what was essentially a deathbed confession and then not follow up right then and there. Makes me wonder if he said it at all, because the fewer the details, the harder it is to prove.

@kyralowry4708

10 күн бұрын

I agree with you, his wasn't twisted at all to me either, that's just a click bait that youtubers do

@SuperAnimelover100

10 күн бұрын

Bill Wyman`s contention that Brian Jones` erratic and destructive behavior could have been due to serious undiagnosed medical problems. One of Jones` out-of-wedlock daughters, now in her 30s, is quoted to the effect that she suffers from epileptic symptoms that cause fits and mood swings similar to those exhibited by the father she never knew. Bill Wyman knew Brian Best . Him not seeing about his kids , was not good but i believe it was how he was brought up with cold parents and his unhealthy body affected him !

@MJ-hl1kk

9 күн бұрын

It was twisted. Totally cynical and heartless. May the souls of devils never know rest.

@baxpiz1289

7 күн бұрын

@@SuperAnimelover100 in her 30s? jones is dead 55 years

@SuperAnimelover100

7 күн бұрын

@@baxpiz1289 So true but the article was old. She was the last baby born.

I was in Vancouver, BC visiting my aunt when Brian Jones died. My late older brother, about 23 years later, was invited over to Keith Richards' house, where he would spend much of the 90s and early 2000s. We saw the original lineup of The Stones perform live (NYC-1966). They performed 'Lady Jane' and ended their set with 'Paint It, Black'. If I remember correctly, my brother told me that the front door of Keith Richards' house is painted red (or, at least it was in the 90s). After my brother died, a message arrived at his memorial service from Keith Richards' business manager: A lady named Jane. I remember asking my brother how come he's wasn't in Keith Richards' autobiography ('Life', released in 2010). After all, he spent virtually a dozen years at his house. His reply was-"I heard all the stories that didn't make it into the book first hand.' For instance, Brian Jones was not the first one to be kicked out of The Stones. Keith was-in the very early days of the band. My brother claimed it was Keith's mother, Doris, who told that story in their presence!

@SuperAnimelover100

10 күн бұрын

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@romanticandperky

10 күн бұрын

@@SuperAnimelover100 yes, hmmm!

@SuperAnimelover100

9 күн бұрын

@@romanticandperky Wow 😮

@romanticandperky

6 күн бұрын

@@Emmie19 Yes, sure!

@romanticandperky

6 күн бұрын

@@Emmie19 What is it that everyone says is not true? My source is my now late older brother; a fine musician in his own right, who hung out with Keith Richards at his house for a dozen years or so. He heard a lot of stories from him. But, according to my brother (who I remember as a fairly truthful guy), it was Keith's Mom (or Mum, as the English say), Doris, who him the story of how, in the early days of The Stones, Mick and Brian kicked Keith out of the band (but changed their minds about it, of course).

My favourite narrator 🙏🏻

Jagger and Richards knew that Brian Jones had more talent than all of the other 3 put together. Jones was a great musician.

@nihilistlivesmatter

3 күн бұрын

Nope nowhere near to being true

Jealousy of the highest order. Brian was the genius of the RS.

Mick stole his band; Keith stole his girl and Pete Townshend stole his style; the guy was left with nothing.

@kingmob2716

5 күн бұрын

What the fuck does Pete Townshend have to with this? What a random comment.

@Winky_

3 күн бұрын

He had many women😆

Some observations, in no particular order. First is that Jones was clearly one of those people who was always going to plough his own furrow. A fine and wonderful thing, but there will always be a point beyond which it'll generate antipathy, and the more antipathy it generates the more some people are determined to carry on with that furrow. Drink and drugs exacerbate the situation, chronic substance abuse tends to lock a person more into themselves and rational objectivity goes down the tubes. That situation with Jones is a common one, notable similar examples are Syd Barrett getting the boot from Pink Floyd the year before, Sid Vicious ten years later would have been kicked out of the Pistols if they hadn't imploded, and latterly Anton Newcomb seems to be heading pretty much the same way, although I think he's more likely to be left by his bandmates (or maybe go solo) than be kicked. Secondly, Jones' death will forever be shrouded in speculation. In general, when there are competing theories for the cause of an event the simplest explanation is usually the most likely, the further a theory is from that the more evidence will be required to support it. In this case the the most likely explanation is that Jones was just too mashed to keep his head above water and get out of the pool, there's plenty of evidence to support that and no evidence of murder, and according to Bill Wyman in 2002 Keylock subsequently denied that Thorogood had confessed. Make of it what you will, people will always believe what they want to believe. Thirdly, the 27 club has been refuted by research, one study in 2011 found similar spikes at the ages of 25 and 32, another published in 2014 found that between 1950 and 2010 over two thirds as many more musicians had died at the age of 56 compared with 27 (2.2% vs 1.3%). A bar chart of age vs percentage published in The Conversation shows a familiar bell curve with 56 at its peak, albeit with fewer deaths before that age than after it, and over 30 ages with more deaths than those at age 27. Finally, Jagger's comments in that Rolling Stone interview were a bit of a mix. On the one hand he admits that the other band members picked on Jones and that he (Jagger) was no angel in that regard, on the other he cites Jones' own behaviour as a justification for it (see my first point), and he also cites a contemporaneous lack of understanding of substance addiction as a factor. I have never bought Jagger's claim that contractual obligations prevented him from attending Jones' funeral, by 1969 he was big enough to take on United Artists over that and the public backlash against UA if they had taken action against Jagger for doing it would have hurt UA more than UA would have hurt Jagger. My own (highly personal) view is that Jagger's non-attendamce was largely a mixture of guilt and apathy but Jagger is sticking to his story and that's where it has to be left. On the whole it's a sad but familiar tale and maybe, 55 years later, it's one that needs to be put to bed.

@MJ-hl1kk

9 күн бұрын

@mitabpraga7487 Why are you eager for it to be put to bed at any stage? There have been cold cases solved with evidence that propped up decades later. Maybe there is someone who is near and dear to Jones who would like to know, for sure, if possible.

@mitabpraga7487

9 күн бұрын

@@MJ-hl1kk Re-read the last line. 1. The word "maybe" is a suggestion, it doesn't mean I'm eager. 2. It begins "On the whole". That means the entire story. It's nothing new, and it's certainly nothing unusual. People form a band. Over time things change. Some of its members might want the band to do different stuff, change this, try that. They find out the guy they thought would be a buddy forever is an asshole, whatever. Stuff happens. Disagreements, arguments, fist fights. Some get kicked out, some quit, or the band breaks up, and sometimes somebody dies. Sad and all, but that's the way it goes, it happens with bands all over the world every day. Newsworthy for a while sure, but as time goes on evrything that can be said about it has been said, there's a time to draw a line under it. Look at those muppets Gilmour and Waters. They've been feuding for 40 years, they're still at it and they're not going to stop until one of them finally goes to The Great Gig In The Sky. Quite why anybody gives a stuff about that anymore beats me, but some people are still banging on about it as if it's something important or even relevant. 3. To be specific about Jones' death I don't believe it should be considered a closed case, and that's not how things work in the UK. The police will always investigate any new evidence presented to them, they did so in 2009 after a journalist called Scott Jones gave them what he believed to be new information gleaned from several sources including people who were at the house at the time and from police files at the National Archive. The following year, at the conclusion of the review, Sussex Police stated that it would not be reopening the case and that "this has been thoroughly reviewed by Sussex Police's Crime Policy and Review Branch, but there is no new evidence to suggest that the coroner's original verdict of 'death by misadventure' was incorrect". The key word is evidence.

@mitabpraga7487

6 күн бұрын

@@Emmie19 You've clearly put a lot of thought and effort into your comment, for that alone it deserves a few likes. I hink we'd agree that Jones was very much a fish out of water. The 60s was a frenetic decade, the world changed a great deal, especially for the younger generation, in just a few short years. It's easy to imagine wanting or needing to be part of it, but overwhelmed by it at the same time. Pallenberg yes, bad news all round. Dunno about Dawn, but I think Anna Wohlin was on his side. All Jones wanted was what the rest of us want, to do his thing, love, and be loved. As you say, it could have been prevented with the right support. It came too late. The night he died, well there may only be one person who knows what happened and he can't tell us. If there are any more some of them have joined Jones and the rest aren't going to say anything they haven't said before. The only sure thing is that we'll never know. The history of the 27 Club is part of the history of urban mythit's evolved the same as any other. I think its impetus was that Jones, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison (along with Alan Wilson, Dickie Pride and Arlester Christian) all popped off in a little over two years of each other. It's nailed on that somebody is going to read something into that. After that, it's largely a mix of statistical mean and confirmation bias. Incidentally, you may be interested to know that Robert Johnson is no longer considered the founder. He was beaten to it by a couple of ragtime pianists, Louis Chauvin in 1908 and Alexandre Levy in 1892. Oh and Rupert Brooke in 1915, but he's a poet so I wouldn't know if that counts. As for the 56 Club, I'd be interested to see a list. My own completely uneducated guess is that most of the artists in it would still have had active careers. Artists can't stop, it's not in their DNA. Not much in the way of argument I know, but it's the best I've got 🙂

I can’t help thinking that virtually every ‘incident’ was a publicity stunt.

Robert Johnson was the founding victim of the 27 club. That doesn’t make what happened to Brian Jones any less of a sad tragedy, and he may have been second, but he wasn’t first.

You don't get someone "accidentally" pregnant. And then do it again.

@PamelaMacmillan-pc4rx

10 күн бұрын

It takes two to tango.

@davidpage3893

9 күн бұрын

He forgot to use a condom.

@richarddelgado2723

2 күн бұрын

Y?!!! You can’t make two ✌️mistakes? 😮…. lol 😂…..

How about a tribute to all the girls Brian Jones impregnated and abandoned and all the children he left fatherless? Why all this eternal worship of a narcissistic drug addict who didn't compose any of the Stones songs, physically abused Anita Pallenberg (and that's just the girlfriend abuse we know for sure) and had to be fired from the Stones because he could or would no longer contribute anything to the band? Because he looked and acted cool?! And btw, compared to Ravi Shankar (and a million Indian sitar players most people have never heard of) Brian Jones was an amateur dilettante on the sitar! If you read Keith Richards' biography "Life," you can also read about what a cruel person Brian was to perfect strangers, like a fan he left out in the freezing cold after taking his coat! He was a very pretty, very pretentious nothing with a mean streak!

Mick Taylor made the difference. Brilliant

@davidboyce8683

5 күн бұрын

Agree, easily the most musically creative period in the Stones , inmo anyway.

@robertkelly6282

5 күн бұрын

And was smart enough to get out when drugs were being used a lot. He didn’t want to get caught up like Keith and mick.

Never let your little head rule your big head boys !

@secondchance6603

9 күн бұрын

Correct, always men's fault for everything when it comes to women... apparently.

Enjoyed this video, took a look around the channel and decided I needed to SUBSCRIBE & HIT THE BELL!

At least he and the girlfriends had the maturity to allow the babies to be adopted. Those babies probably thrived.

Richards n Jagger sold their souls n Brian Jones was offered up as the sacrifice.

@user-fu2mi1nd5l

9 күн бұрын

after talkin to The Beatles who sacrificed Paul in 66

@effdonahue6595

5 күн бұрын

I heard they ate him 😈😈

Excellent work. Thank you.

he was drowned by a man hired to fix his swimming pool, who upon his death bed confessed to the crime, which was actually a case of manslaughter, dying while the man was harassing Brian, dunking him to death, Brian being more frail than the killer figured. I knew I'd find out one day, found that out years ago.

The great Alan Wilson from Canned Heat is also, sadly, a part of the 27 Club..

Thanks so informative

Dont believe he ended up in pool by accident..was his band he named them and was best musician.

@decimated550

Күн бұрын

no, he may have been creative but he didn't put out the classic hits. he noodled around with exotic insttruments. he fell apart when his girlfriend ran off

But he had great hair!

Robert Johnson is the founding memder of the 27 Club in 1938...

Best narrator.

See the movie "Stoned." It is a bio of Brian Jones.

@RockinProfessor

9 күн бұрын

Good movie....

Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day also a fantastic weekend ❤😊

They wanted to tour in America and Brian couldn't go.

Hey, just wanted to say that I love your Scottish accent! I also appreciate the care and attention you put into your narration. Greetings from Austin!

Jagger’s reply was not twisted at all. Click bait once again…

Very informative and interesting! I have followed the Stones since their records came out in America and got to see them live 3 times! I know Brian was a very talented musician and it's so sad he was so yroubled! GBY. Jim

The 27th birthday is the beginning of the Saturn Return which longs for 2 1/2 years. During this period, people change from young to mature… or dead!

Brian jones was the hottest stone .... jagger wasnt going to handle that

@alukuhito

8 күн бұрын

Did Jagger have him offed?

@Vibeagain

4 күн бұрын

WTH?

I appreciated a fairly complete account of Brian Jones’ story.

The band started in 1962 ,

Don't forget Ian Stewart, He as well started the Rolling Stones !!!!

Jones just wasn't a very responsible person.

@malcolmmitchell6529

7 күн бұрын

How awful.

Even Charlie said Brian was an asshole.

@karameaD

9 күн бұрын

Yes he did, but he put it in a very delicate, Charlie way: “…the trouble with Brian is that he wasn’t very nice…”. Class act. Most of the musicians who have commented on this video have known a Brian or two over the years and they’re always a pain in the arse!!!

@user-vl8qw8hp1g

9 күн бұрын

@cassandraunheeded Of all the guys in the band, Bill Wyman was probably closest to Brian Jones. In his book, Stone Alone, even Bill discussed the difficulties they had with Brian. Brian apparently could be sweet and charming and then turn around and be a total jerk. Brian actually once put a cigarette out on the back of Bill's hand, so Bill said. Bill Wyman is in contact with one of Brian Jones' adult children, a daughter, I believe. This person has a seizure disorder that no one else in her known family has. The disorder is apparently hereditary, and the daughter believes that she got it from her father, Brian Jones. Bill said in his book that this condition might have led to Brian's drug and alcohol use and at least some of his erratic behavior.

Had there been no Brian Jones, there would be no Brian Jonestown Massacre.

Mick's response sound more confessional than twisted. Everyone wonders how good a career Jones might have had, but was his path any different from the other tragic characters in Rock history? Ego can be a toxic thing. It's a sad story which recurred way too often.

You’re my favorite narrator!

The dude doesn’t show up for rehearsals and sessions, and when he does turn up he’s often too drugged-up to play. What can you do but throw him out of the band?

@secondchance6603

9 күн бұрын

Same happened with Syd Barrett and Pink Floyd.

Mick got Marianne, Brian got Anita. Nuff said. Even tough Keith looked like a wasted heroin zombie after a decade with her.

@effdonahue6595

5 күн бұрын

She was a witchypoo 🧙😈🔥

the group started in 62 not 69. I have album from 65

Pretty sure Jones was a very difficult person to have around, and then there was the money thing. He was essentially useless by the end. I wouldn't be surprised if he was rubbed out. It happens.

Robert Johnson was the first in the 27 club.

@effdonahue6595

5 күн бұрын

Nope, Howard Johnson was 🍨 🍦🐸

just goes to show, we don't always get what we want

If i had a genie, one wish would be how did Brian Jones die? Jones was such a wasted talent. Great video of Brian, awesome as always.

@chickyrogue8485

10 күн бұрын

Scroll down 7 comments from your comment under new

I went to the same school in Cheltenham that Brian Jones had attended, 1970-75. Amazingly, none of us students had any idea that a Rolling Stone, the founder no less, was an alumnus; I only found out about 15 years ago. That was because there was no internet in the 70s, but also because Jones had been expelled from the school and was known to have gotten involved with "drugs", so his attendance was kept secret from us. The name of the school was Dean Close School.

Many thing I wasn't aware of till I watched this video.

Loved early Stones! So good!

It was like syd Barrett getting booted out of his band

This happened to Brian Connolly, of Sweet. Connolly went the same way by not turning up for rehearsals, and when he did, he was so drunk and full of drugs that he couldn't perform. He was later kicked out of the band too!

@effdonahue6595

5 күн бұрын

What a Sweet story 🤓

@redblade8160

5 күн бұрын

@@effdonahue6595 Not really; it went a bit sour for him!

Jones invented World Music in Morocco

"27 club??? How bout Robert Johnson?

It all comes down to fanny at the end of the day. Brian got more of it than Mick or Keith, and that's why he had to go.

@garethclark5489

5 күн бұрын

No. Sadly for Brian he was not able to play his role in the band. Sadly they probably didnt handle it well but they were all very young.

There is no denying Jagger's stage presence. And his voice. And his look. Natural rock star.

@Avrillo-gf7tx

9 күн бұрын

This is about Brian Jones not Mick but both were great to watch, Mick had great vocals & moves. Richards very was seedy to my eyes. Brian was a strong lead guitar player and talent in the band. I was so sad to see him leave and then as legend grew, he was ‘bumped off’! Scandalous the truth needs to be outed though.

@johnstorton

8 күн бұрын

His VOICE????

@IusedtohaveausernameIliked

6 күн бұрын

People who don't really care about music need something to look at. People who do actually like the music don't.

@haliaeetus8221

6 күн бұрын

Back in the 60's people didn't need to have as much skills and talent and from this example evidently even looks. Mostly about the drive and work to success and getting fortunate opportunities. Once popularity starts the mass formation psychology fuels the thing. Mick couldn't even dance. Plenty of other people could have been the successful vocalists for the RS.

Imagine how messed up your life must be to be too wasted to be in the Rolling Stones.

@steveconn

8 күн бұрын

Only Keith the heavy drug user, particularly after Brian died. The others other than a little coke and weed tight professionals. Wouldn't be where they are otherwise.

@bingsinatra5283

7 күн бұрын

​​@@steveconnMick Taylor was hooked on heroin. He left the band to save his life & his marriage.

@effdonahue6595

5 күн бұрын

@@bingsinatra5283and Ronnie was a crack head in the early 80’s

A Wild Group Indeed Full Of Energy And Still Going Strong 😉

@KarmicSalt

10 күн бұрын

well the evil of the stones, jagger/ richards are still going strong. They are the example I use when I say that karma isn't real.

@heidibee501

10 күн бұрын

In our minds, Brian Jones will always remain young and very cute. The same cannot be said of the surviving members.

@heidibee501

10 күн бұрын

@@KarmicSalt Don't give up on "karma". It is not over, till it's over,

@SharonMartinez

10 күн бұрын

@@heidibee501given that sage observation, I’d opt for “surviving.” One can hardly call it surviving…more like flourishing.

@SharonMartinez

10 күн бұрын

@@heidibee501…until the fat lady sings…

Imagine being able to pick up any instrument and play. Obviously Brian was cursed.

I think Mick Jagger tried to give Brian Jones the kiss of life after he was dragged out of the swimming pool, and that's what killed him!

Never should have become Involved with them in the first Place!

@johngore7744

9 күн бұрын

He’d already fathered 4 kids by the time he was 20 and paid no support. Brian has been glorified as a golden boy. He wasn’t built for the long haul. He was very intelligent and talented but had issues. And the dope made it worse. It’s very sad. Kinda like Syd Barrett or Peter Greene. I’ve been a fan since 1967 and I always remember Brian always seemed fragile to me as a kid. He could be mean too apparently. But none of the back then knew squat about mental illness or drug addition ( of which they were basically rewriting the book.) it was a long time ago and it was really a shame. Cheers from Montreal

I believe and won't change my mind ,he was murdered.I believe it was not i vestigated because he was a heavy grug user and part of a wild group.

If you go with enthusiasm through the personal lives of your idols in any field, you'll later discover it would be better to get the art without knowing the rest.

Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman who was the closest to Brian Jones all along speculates in his autobiography "Stone Alone" that Brian Jones may have been epileptic and perhaps a seizure overcame him in that pool that fateful night. This speculation is based on a finding that one of Jones' children, a daughter has an epilepsy diagnosis and the girl's mother has no family history of it.

Its part of that industry Jagger Richards made a deal with the "commander and chief"*, and Jones was the sacrifice Bob Dylan admitted on 60 minutes that he "sold his soul" He called him " the commander and chief "

I was in the music business many years ago, and knew individuals familiar with the band members. They were a great band, but a bunch of messed up missfits who brought dirt to the industry. Yes, they had a massive fan base and still going strong. Amazing, to say the least.

@steveconn

8 күн бұрын

Created badboy Rock n Roll as opposed to the Beatles cutesy image. No Doors, Zep, Queen, Aerosmith etc. without them.

Thanks

@Factinate

9 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!!

They all took drugs but only Jones let it get out of hand to the point where he couldn’t function as a professional musician or person. He was a fantastic multi instrumentalist but he last played electric guitar on 1967’s Between the Buttons. Richards covered for him for two years before he was fired. He was very troubled just like Jim Morrison and many others. They needed serious professional help and didn’t get it.

I always assumed The Rolling Stones hid their R&R Circus show because The Who were so much better that night. Decades later at the SARS benefit concert in Toronto, AC/DC showed the world just how much more entertaining they were than the Stones.

Still trying to figure out what positive societal or cultural changes occurred as a result of the 60’s. It seems that it all started to unravel back then and what we have now is its afterbirth.

5 pounds is equal to about $1.68. That was his managerial supplement

Why do people consistently mention Brian Jones as "the first member of the 27 club" when it was obviously Robert Johnson who began the 27 club? I just don't get that at all. They didn't recognize Robert Johnson for years as the master musician he was, and they still recognize the correlation of him being THE founding member of the 27 club, not that it's something you'd really want to be known for admittedly.

Sacrifice?

The band had its first row when Brian Jones was on the phone setting up a gig. Jones realized that they needed a name. Looking around, he saw a Sheb Wooley record and said the band was The Purple People Eaters. Keith Richards (later Keith Richard then still later Keith Richards) objected and a fight broke out. After scuffling for several minutes, the band members voted and picked Rollin’ Stones (later, The Rolling Stones then The Stones, then tentatively Mick Jagger and His Sidemen [which Charlie Watts vetoed]). Jones (who was always Jones except for the several birth certificates that omitted his name entirely) never forgave the others but eventually took credit for founding and naming the band.

At Jaggers drawn.

She dragged a dead body to safety.

The Rolling Stones was started in 1962 not 1969. Brian Jones died in 1969, July 3.

I remember watching an interview with Charlie Watts the drummer and he said 'The problem with Brian was he was a horrible person'.

This is why I listen to Band-Maid

Brian Jones did NOT start the Rolling Stones. That is a myth and a lie. Jones TRIED to put his own band together but he was unsuccessful, only recruiting pianist Ian Stewart. Keith, Mick and Dick Taylor had started their own blues band the year before called The Blue Boys and they made several recordings where the early sounds of the Rolling Stones are impressively evident. Mick's unique singing style and Keith's eclectic rhythm and blues guitar accompaniment . Dejected by his failure to start his own blues band Brian got himself introduced to Keith and he asked Keith is he and Ian could join Keith's blues band. Keith liked the idea of having someone who could play slide guitar in his blues band even though he only could play a couple of songs on slide guitar...so Keith agreed. Later that year Keith's band the Blue Boys changed their name to the Rollin Stones on the suggestion of their mentor Alex Korner of the blues band Blues Incorporated, just before their debut at the Marquee Club in Soho a job that Alex Korner got for them.. The name came from a Muddy Waters song called Rollin' Stone that Mick and Keith played when they sat in with Alex's band at the Ealing Club. Mick was carrying the album that contained that song when Keith and Mick reunited at the Dartford train station the year before, Dick Taylor and Alex Korner were more instrumental in forming the Rolling Stones and naming the band than Brian Jones ever was. The true facts are never quite as exciting and romantic as the myths and legends Journalists and book writers make up to sell their stories, but what I just laid out are the facts about how the band was really formed and how they truly got their name. BTW there is no melodramatic shroud of mystery about Brian Jones demise. He was a steady abuser of alcohol and hard drugs for many years and he frequently passed out cold after medicating himself with Booze after bingeing for several days straight on amphetamines.This last time he happened to pass out in his heated pool and he just stopped trying to breathe as he sank to the bottom. He didn't even have enough water in his airway to officially list it as a drowning in his autopsy report. Drug users and alcoholics die from their deadly habits and abuses every day and Brian was just one more to succumb to his fatal abuses that day. Many stories and scandalous tales were made up because Brian was wealthy and famous... Dead, famous, wealthy people's stories sell a lot of books and newspapers. That's all the hoopla and conjecture around his death are for..

@Rich-ng3yy

9 күн бұрын

I thought that Ian stewart and Brian started it together and that Brian put the ad in the paper?

@williardbillmore5713

9 күн бұрын

@@Rich-ng3yy You thought wrong. Brian ran the advert in the Jazz News and Ian was the only one who answered the advert that was a serious musician. Two guys who can't sing do not make a band. Dejected and unsuccessful at starting his own band Brian went to Keith and asked if they could join Keith's band and Keith agreed. That is the real story. The Blue Boys never broke up and none of the Rolling Stones members auditioned for Brian. Brian was one of the Blue Boys under Keith's musical direction. Jones NEVER" led" the band. It was always Keith's band as it still is to this day.

@lacikollar64

8 күн бұрын

@@williardbillmore5713 Wow great explanation thanks

@williardbillmore5713

8 күн бұрын

@@lacikollar64 Most of what has been written about Jones are sensationalistic lies. Don't be fooled by their prevalence.

@Rich-ng3yy

8 күн бұрын

@@williardbillmore5713 I only said that I thought he put the ad in and he and Ian started the band. I wasn't saying it was a already a band with Brian and Ian stewart operating as a band alone merely they were starting one up. I'm not disputing the things you said, it is well known that when they were kids they started little boy blue and the blue boys in dartford but were not that trio joining Brian and Ian rather than the other way round? Even if you're right and he asked them? Bill is adamant Brian started the band. I'm not saying it was Brian's band in that it belonged to him I'm asking about the genesis, simply asking because I thought that once they all started joining in at Alexis Korners it was Brian and Ian who first wanted to start a more serious band and get gigs, which Dick Mick and Keith were not initially doing as a unit? .. who first used the rehearsal room above the bricklayers? Did Ian and Brian use it first?

It’s unfortunate what happened to Brian, but despite Mick and Keith having big egos, they were the ones writing the hits and were always the driving force behind the band. Brian became a burden, and they did what they had to do. Even John Lennon said in an interview that Brian Jones was a person that he dreaded to be around, because he was a such a shitty person after the drugs.

He started it in 1963! They kicked him out after the beggers banquet album in 1968 and as they were crossing the peace bridge for a gig in Toronto, they caught him with a bag a weed and they wouldn't let the group in! So in 69 they replaced him with Mick Taylor

Jones was NOT the first member of the 27 Club. Robert Johnson was.

All within a month, my opinion of Mick has changed twice. First, I heard he often went to the handicap section of concerts, because wheelchairs didn't have seating on a lot of arenas in those days, and Mick gave out T-Shirts and 8 Tracks and CD's. One of his roadies admitted it. Then I hear this, and I have met a lot of crappy rich people in business. They didn't get to the top by being a nice guy.