I’m very aware of the time captain. That line will always stick out in my mind, the delivery is perfect

David Morse is just a Chameleon actor he plays every roll Good guy/bad guy to perfection.

The thing that bothered me most was that right after Hummel called the first time to state his demands the joint chiefs are immediately looking for a plan to neutralize him, including an incendiary air strike. At no point does anyone propose paying up or at the very least compensating the families of the dead soldiers (which was what Hummel was planning to do with the ransom anyway). They basically prove Hummel's point, that these guys don't care about the men and women they order into battle to die. If they offered to rectify the mistake, pay the families directly, and disclose the circumstances surrounding their deaths, that may have been enough to get Hummel to stand down.

@3hutp

3 жыл бұрын

Why should they care? They are FBI and military experts, their job is to tackle terrorists. Civilian lives are at stake, millions of them. It is not their job to make up for past governments' mistakes. Then and there Hummel poses a national security threat. And as for the fallen soldiers... they entered the military voluntarily, right? They knew what they signed up for, they knew what risks they took. A soldier might die on the battlefield and be forgotten.

@ReaverLordTonus

3 жыл бұрын

3hutp Hummel was pissed because what happened to those soldiers wasn't supposed to in the first place. They were basically betrayed by their own government, they volunteered to serve with the promise that it would be for a worthy cause and that if they died their families would be looked after, they were owed that much for laying down their lives. At the start of the film Hummel said at his wife's grave that he tried everything else and "did not have their attention" meaning he tried to go through proper channels to correct the injustice but someone on the other end of the argument higher up than him made the conscious decision not to do so, hence why he resorted to this action. The tragedy is that after this ended with him and all his men getting killed by Cage and Connery, the government probably learned nothing, heck when the CO is briefing the F18 pilots on blowing up Alcatraz, he mentions that a number of American hostages and US Marines will be killed in their air strike like it's no big deal. That's the thing Hummel was unhappy with, that soldiers are nothing more than expendable pawns for armchair generals to throw away nonchalantly, I wouldn't be surprised if that seal team that got wiped out got disavowed too with no explanation given for their deaths and will be buried forgotten without honor in unmarked graves.

@jjrj8568

Жыл бұрын

We don't deal with terrorists, domestic or foreign

@cbolanz1

Жыл бұрын

I feel Hummel should’ve gotten his wish granted. If the film had shown the government apologizing to the marines families and paying them along with the marines and seals that died on Alcatraz promising to learn from their mistakes, and admit that it was their fault those hostages were locked up and almost killed, and that they nearly got the whole city gassed and the hostages almost got blown up because of their arrogance then maybe I’d be satisfied.

@MarcDufresneosorusrex

Жыл бұрын

I think its because it happens in a "institution" setting. As opposed to "work or a creative entreprise, the institution's sole purpose is to promote uniform "everything", clothing thinking protocols policies etc.. I mean look at the plandemic, everyone wants to act like no one made any mistakes but someone who can afford to see things humbly will come to a different conclusion. The institution cares for its image more than the people they serve; that is its major flaw in my eyes and I hope any organisation that isn't honest fails. (personal opinion of course) How is your week going? Take care.

Such a great movie.

@fullthrottlemaxrpm

3 жыл бұрын

It was a terrible movie with crappy acting, outside of the general and Sean Connery

I like how restless some of them are getting. And to top it off, Al Kramer calling three minutes until deadline, to ask for another hour when they had forty. Hummel seeing through the charade: "You've got three minutes."

@ryang2573

Жыл бұрын

My question is what their gameplan was if they did launch their bioweapon and succeeded. At that point their one bargaining chip preventing the US military from shoving a missile up their ass would be gone AND they'd become the most wanted people on Earth. As combat veterans, they have to know there is no possible safe haven for them anywhere.

@dallasyap3064

Жыл бұрын

@@ryang2573 I mean they're Force Recons. They're specialists in intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance as well as unconventional warfare and espionage operations. They probably have a way to evade the authorities using their skills and tradecraft.

Captain Darrow (Tony Todd) was in Platoon (He gets shot up in the second ambush but he survives). It's one of those blink twice and you miss him role.

@aum6032

3 жыл бұрын

We can see him in couple of scenes in the movie platoon, scene where 4 soldiers big Harold, junior, Francis and Sgt Warren the character played by Tony Todd, where Tony Todd's character actually talks in favour of Sgt. Barnes after illegal shooting in the village after which Barnes and Elias fight.. he can also be seen in a scene where the platoon searches and Todd finds rice.. he can also be seen in ambush briefing where O'Neil and Elias get on a verbal spat..

@hammerfest1912

3 жыл бұрын

As a StarGate and Star Trek fan, I know him from a lot of roles.

That slogan belongs to the Army, they're the Marines, they got Semper Fi.

@JohnBart86

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think Frye and Darrow were Force Recon Marines. The movie establishes early on that they never served under Hummel, and they're also frequently referred to as "soldiers" both by themselves and by Major Baxter (something Marines would never refer to themselves as). Based on this, I think they were either Army officers, or freelance mercenaries with an ex-Army past. The latter would also explain why they mutineered when it became clear that "there is no f*ckin' money".

@PaddyMcQueen

3 жыл бұрын

They are confused

@daffyduck9323

3 жыл бұрын

I checked Wikipedia and it said they were marines so clearly Bay doesn’t quite get how the marines work

@Angry.General1461

2 жыл бұрын

@JeremyCuddles The story seriously doesn't make sense. General Hummel have them thinking that they are doing this for $1,000,000. They've already murdered an entire seal team and held hostages. Regardless if they use the Rockets to kill more people they're not going to have a chance to enjoy the money. The island will be surrounded unable for them to escape!

@pronkb000

Жыл бұрын

@@daffyduck9323 Or Wikipedia is wrong.

Let's be all who we can be.

Lets be all we can be.

It's a good scene, but it's playing fast and lose with reality. Hummel if anyone would know that there wouldn't be any damn money due to hostage procedure 101, never pay the ransom, as well as the 1st rule in the counter terrorist handbook "we don't negotiate with terrorists" In my opinon the only way for Hummel to get the money would be to be serious, fire a missile from something like a stealth ship and tell them that you will fire one rocket every hour until the ransom has been paid.

@ColonelWillGaming

3 жыл бұрын

He was never expecting to get any money, the whole thing was to raise awareness of his case of how his fallen men were treated.

Love the general ❤❤❤❤❤❤ everybody else can die

You see, God put man on this planet for 3 reasons: eatin', fightin', and launching those tight wet rockets!

It was at this point the general realized he recruited the wrong men for this. Him and his friend both knew the other two were lunatics.

@marluxia8832

2 ай бұрын

I doubt that "good Marines" - captain Hendrix, privates Starling, Yates, Scarpetti and Gamble - would be pleased with Hummel's decision had all or some of them lived up to this moment. At least the officer and sergeant half of his men had definitely sacrificed their military careers by joining him, and all of the renegade Marines sacrificed their normal lives too. Only to find out that Hummel never intended to go through with his threats and fire the rockets. Frye and Darrow were completely right, the government would't have even arrested Hummel like he originally wanted, they just decided to bomb Alcatraz with thermal plasma as they predicted.

@dallasyap3064

Ай бұрын

To be honest, even Hummel's closest friend and 2IC Major Baxter (David Morse) turned lunatics too, so it's safe to say the other marines under Hummel's command have turned to lunatics too. But that's bcoz Hummel told them to, he asked them to turn to the darkside with him and become bad people doing bad sh*t, and these guys bcoz of their loyalty to Hummel did it. This is the major flaw of Hummel. He should have explained properly to his men, that they were to bluff and not actually kill anyone or actually turn to the darkside.

I don’t care how wronged I happen to be in the military. Killing thousands in a horrible chemical attack is not justified.

@gonova8412

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why the general never planned on actually going through with it

@pronkb000

Жыл бұрын

"This? This is not combat. It's an act of lunacy, General Sir."

@danielmiller9012

Жыл бұрын

@@gonova8412 Yep, they called his bluff, he had 0 plans on doing it. It was about the THREAT of force as he said.

Great movie

ITS A SIMPLE ORDER MAJOR!

@daffyduck9323

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not so simple Frank

It is established that Hummel is a genius combat commander. His mistake however is recruiting men who are outside his loyalty circle. For Hummel's loyal men, it was about the cause. For Darrow and Frye and their crew it was all about the money. I do not think they really cared about those other Marines who died under the various commands of Hummel. It was all about the payday and even if they did succeed in getting the money? I think Darrow and Frye would have double crossed Hummel at some point to keep all the money for themselves

@dars5229

28 күн бұрын

Hummel's moral blind spot was that he was such a patriot galvanized by the deaths of fellow patriots under his command that he honestly believed other men who put on the same uniform are just like him. Like, SEAL Commander Anderson tells him he personally agrees with him and understands why he's doing what he's doing. But when the SEALs don't surrender, Hummel finds himself yelling "What the hell is wrong with you men?" He doesn't see who Frye and Darrow are until it's too late. Baxter does, and tries to make Hummel see it but too late. Damn, Shakespeare would have loved to live long enough to write action movies.

Let's not to listen them all voices only yours you are 😎General 💖 Long Live 😏 is it not we all we can be 🤐 Sir😤

Those 2 captains are not thinking straight of they fired the rocket, what makes them think that the government would just give up and give want they want after hundreds civilian casualties?

I wish there was some redemption arc for Hummel. Like at the very last minute the public found out of Hummel's cause. Cause once the hostages were released, they started talking and his men that died their families were finally paid.

У нас в России с нашим дубляжем этот фильм кажется настоящим шедевром .Кто знает Русский язык,посмотрите с нашим дубляжем,профессионально, эмоционально.

@marluxia8832

2 ай бұрын

Там ляпы есть. Перед бойней в душевой капитан Фрай говорит майору Бакстеру "Давайте завалим этих уёбков", в нашем дубляже это "О, Боже!". Причём это именно ошибка, это фраза одного из "морских котиков" прямо перед этим. И в эмоциональной перепалке Хаммела с Андерсоном там всё не так с фразой Хаммела после "Но это не даёт вам права на мятеж!". На самом деле Хаммел говорит "Зови это как хочешь! Но вы внизу, а мы наверху! Ты попал в западню, коммандер!". У нас он снова требует от "котиков" сложить оружие. Или там Фрай говорит не "Эй, это бизнес", а "Эй, это служба". Тоже бред. Мелочь, а неприятно. Зато круто получилось с "Раз, два, три- на, жри!".

Bello

Love this movie to death but no Marine would ever utter a catchphrase for the Army lol

@callofdutyguy9

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that slogan sounds so badass.

@unclequack5445

2 жыл бұрын

True no jarhead should utter a Army catch phrase, they're not worthy .

@t.baitman

Жыл бұрын

Who cares? It’s a fucking Michael Bay movie and it fit the scene

@pronkb000

Жыл бұрын

Aren't Frye and Darrow Army vets, though? Granted, saying it to a Marine general probably isn't the best idea even if he's a soldier.

Mercenaries *GET PAID*

The music sounds like Red October

Obviously the two captains were planning to betray Hummel from the start

@daffyduck9323

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I don’t know if there was a deleted scene or something like that but you know

@daffyduck9323

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why people can’t see that

@goldengun9970

2 жыл бұрын

No. I don't see why they would betray Hummel if Hummel was on the same pages as them and agreeing

@daffyduck9323

2 жыл бұрын

Hey people manipulate others for their bidding and when they no longer have any use well…

@miguelporras8366

Жыл бұрын

No. They were clearly not exclusively guided by Hummels' ideals and their cruelty went out once this started to get rough and desperate

if they had iPhones.......they'd all be texting and playing on their phones!!!

In this sene tony todd is to handsom to my heart soul powerful genius all the time everyone I look at seems to be it

Be all you can be is an Army thing, not Marines.

I dont fucking understand why they didnt pay the fuckimn money considering such threat!!!

@dimonsesue

2 жыл бұрын

you don't negotiate with terrorists

@dallasyap3064

Жыл бұрын

They take their "we don't negotiate with terrorists" too seriously. Another reason is probably their egos. They would rather let tens and hundreds of thousands of people die than to give away $100 million. They just proved Hummel's point that they don't care about people, they just want their benefits and willing to let people die. What Hummel did wasn't just a terrorist attack/threat or something, it's what the government rightfully and legally owes it to him and his fallen men and their families. And he's asking the money from an illegal arms dealing funds, meaning he's not taking money from the taxpayers' hard earned money (he still respects the taxpayers). If the President was smart, he'll just pay them the funds, and Hummel releases the hostages and ends the crises and his men can escape to safe destinations. Everybody get what they want, and nobody dies.

Do none of the general’s men in this movie have eyebrows?

@bimanatawilaga7509

3 жыл бұрын

Eyebrows add additional weight to the battlefield, son 🤣

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way...

@kuyucu_

2 ай бұрын

Bu nasıl bir Allah anlayışı? Bir insan kafasından çıkmış olduğu çok belli. Sizi kandırmışlar.Ama bu masal etkisiz bu zamanda ki, artık sağlam inanani yok.

What does he say before "they're playing you for a fool"?

@Mustnged

3 жыл бұрын

They're calling our bluff

@coryboy345

4 ай бұрын

He wants his FUCKING... MONEY!!!!!

The weird part is... as a General.. he has access to a large amount of "budget"... could have some wired off some as contingencies .....

@dars5229

28 күн бұрын

If that was all Hummel wanted, it could have easily been arranged. But he also wanted official acknowledgment of how his men died, and that wasn't happening. For example, he led troops into China. Sending armed soldiers into another country without a formal declaration of war is a war crime. A China is nuclear-armed. Official acknowledgment by the US government would mean China being free to retaliate any way they see fit.

reciting the Army motto to a Marine General....?

@therealmistahjay

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Makes absolutely no sense... Still love the movie though.

@tammymism

3 жыл бұрын

It's a movie made for the public not military historians.

1:30

jail B

Be all we can be...... odd for Marines to say that, no?

@marluxia8832

2 ай бұрын

I don't know. Frye and Darrow are seen wearing black berets, they and their men might be Rangers and not Marines. Because at the time US Rangers wore black berets, and were the only ones to do so in the US Armed Forces.

@davidbennett288

2 ай бұрын

@@marluxia8832 Also, Major Baxter addresses Darrow as "soldier", further indicating Army.

This scene annoyed me. I liked the movie but "NO" Marine would say "lets be all we can be". There are so many other things they could have said but "lets be all we can be" was the absolute worse. That is what happens in Hollywood when they do not hire a Marine as an advisor to help make their movie. Could you imagine if this movie was about the Army and one of the soldiers said come on General lets "Aim High"....lol. Semper Fidelis

@fiqfiq2388

3 жыл бұрын

because he is not real soldiers in this movie. he is mercenary and fight for money.

@dn1467

3 жыл бұрын

@@fiqfiq2388 the entire premise of the story arch is that they are Marines. It is mentioned many time throughout the movie. They know what their punishment will be and they accept it in order to bring to the forefront what has happened to their brothers. Yes it is a movie. When you make a movie you make it in order to bring your audience into the world you are creating to tell a story. It is a small detail but as I said it is annoying to see it in this story.

@tammymism

3 жыл бұрын

The movie is made for the public...mass consumption. The average person, actually only in USA, is only vaguely aware that 'be all that you can be' is a motto associated with the military. That's all that's needed for the line to register and [seemingly] make sense in the average person's mind.