Do you miss Mirrodin or do you prefer the compleat edition?

@GeekoTreecko

Жыл бұрын

I think I missed in order: Silver Myr > Mirrodin > compleat edition

@GFreeGamer

Жыл бұрын

I miss Mirrodin a whole bunch. Also, your video came out alongside the Building Worlds video for ONE

@D-Skotes

Жыл бұрын

Mirriodin didn't have Tibalt working under it New Phyrexia does so I have to go with the Compleat Version.

@christopherb501

Жыл бұрын

Like "Khans vs. Dragons", I like both, and wish there was some way to have both around. Tho if push came to shove, in both cases, I'd take the former.

@0th_Law

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the _real_ compleat edition, after Ashiok has recruited Oko to assist in trolling the Panharmommycon, by turning New Phyrexia into New Phyrelkxia.

5:14 "a tiny piece of a puzzle, $2000 to complete" So very true for magic

@allenclark4235

Жыл бұрын

...clever

And now just a few days later, we’ve got Urtet, the 5c legendary myr who’s hauling the mirari around on his back (either that or a new hand has touched Meridia’s Beacon)

This video made me really invested in the wellbeing of the myr.

To wiseass further under a 2 hour video: For each color there's a mana generating Myr. Each color is represented by a different metal e.g. red is copper. The same metals were used by Yawgmoth and Xod in The Thran to find out what mana is and that it has 5 colors. I'm sure the device they used was a Thran Lens, where you also see the 5 metals, except it filters mana from them into colorless, not vice versa. Like a prism.

@phoenixshadow4631

Жыл бұрын

Um actually, copper is green in color identity, iron is red, gold is white, silver is blue and lead is black.

Considering Wizards called the Glistening oil an unperfected weaponization of Old Phyrexia, I like to imagine it was Yawgmoth's unrealized opus magnum. After all, what greater weapon could there be in the mind of the epitome of narcissists than one that turns his enemies into himself? What greater work could the Great Work be than to turn all of the cosmos into reflections of him? In that vein, I like to think of each of the Praetors as fragmentations of his outsized personality, arising separately due to the imperfection of oil and the influence of Mirran mana. All of Phyrexia itself was already geared toward this project, whether by mental manipulation via tampered Heartstones, severe religious indoctrination and physical conditioning, or luring in like minded and bring out the worst of them like what happened with Urza, and the Glistening Oil seems meant to be the ultimate realization of this goal that could be applied on a multiversal scale. For example, Gitaxias is Yawgmoth's obsession with knowledge and its acquisition via experimentation unbounded by moral or ethical limitations. Sheoldred exemplifies his will to power and Machiavellian/Demonic talent for manipulation and coercion. Vorinclex represents his Darwinian obsession with conflict, war, and growth through violence, as well as his brutality, barely hidden under a veneer his civilized and erudite veneer, meant to feed his sense of superiority and justify his base instincts. Urabrask is a lesser realized aspect we see within Yawgmoth that is contrary to his typical narcissism; his competing desire to go his own way and tinker with whatever fascinates or occupies him. We see this more independent side/ self-absorbed side when he is exiled by the Thran or in isolated experimentation in Glacian's labs or on Phyrexia after he first "acquires" it. Urabrask is a manifestation of his compulsive min maxing fetish that he indulges in, where he loses sight of else beyond his focal point, even somehow forgetting himself. Lastly, Mama Elesh is his intense, religious, self-deification; his complete narcissism and dogmatic need for control over everything and everyone one made manifest. That overpowering aspect of himself that made his more Urabrasky nature so rare to manifest and set him on a path to nurture and spread all his worst qualities. I think the Praetor's create a kind of poetry to the legacy of Yawgmoth, and this conception of the Glistening Oil really ties brings home the warning his tale has of pure, unrestrained narcissism and the repeating nature of trauma and abuse. The cherry on top is how the Praetor's, being his spawn, shsring his devastating ego, are unable to see Yawgmoth in themselves. Instead, they mark him as a failure that set something far greater into motion that only they have the true competency to complete. They are all too blind to see that they are him writ small, failings and all, and that will likely be their doom.

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

It's not about perfect copying. It's simply no more and no less than a method of reproduction to cheat death and simulate immortality. Perfect copying might be a degenerative mode of it, but the key to what makes virality genius is that leans into the natural. It tries to tap infinite mana by calculating infinite digits of pi and then determining what operand it would take to combo off once you have infinite digits, which might be thought of as charge counters: Not damage or life or cards. But a means to them.

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

Endgame is try to go Past God Mode at a Dyson Sphere like scale. The Dyson Spheres of Phyrexia Caging the Suns of Mirrodin.

@darthparallax5207

Жыл бұрын

Look at Neon Dynasty. Look at the Myr. Look at Kaladesh. Look at Ixalan. Look at Capenna. Yawgmoth wins even if Elesh Norn does not. Mana from the Lands will bow to the March of the Machines. There is no world without Vehicles. Soon there will be no world without Artifact-Enchantments. Artifacts won.

@theodorheidhues2566

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was going to say ;)

@rhystictomato5635

Жыл бұрын

I like this notion a lot, but I’m curious - you mention urabrask twice. Did you mean Vorinclex the first time?

I am now completely in love. Myr and Mirran solidarity forever! ❤

@icholi88

Жыл бұрын

I'm compleatly in love. Myr and Phyrexia, all as one!🛢

@lysander3262

Жыл бұрын

I'll admit I initially scoffed when the 5c identity Myr Legend was previewed. It seemed like Yet Another Tribal Commander. Silver's passion, the narrative of the new Myr, and the observation that some tribes have entirely too many 5c Legends while others languish, has sold me on Myr and their right to their own tribal support. ¡Viva los Myr! Slava Mirrani! F@$k Elesh Norn, she's Not My MOM!

@fraserfuite8816

Жыл бұрын

I began to play magic, at 9 years old, during the Mirrodin set. Myrs were and are my favourite!

My head Canon is that Urabrask is none other than the first completed Myr to reach full consciousness and independence. Only thing i am certain of, is that he's always been my favourite praetor (Sheoldred being the second) and my stance has only solidified with the new cards.

@tempermen6032

3 ай бұрын

Oh my god this is also my new headcannon

"Um, actually": Phyrexia _did_ eventually make some of their own portals; they couldn't have chased around Urza as well as they did without doing so. The process was still ultimately costly, and Rath was created to provide an avenue thru which to take over Dominaria in a foul swoop rather than spend millennia more in infiltration. On the subject of the heartstone's oil, my thought was that it was inert (given Xantcha was long-dead) until Karn sparked, waking it up. And even then, it was still the _tiniest_ bit of it, and didn't become a problem until both many years later and Karn gave up his spark. Hate that retcon so godsdamned much. I just assume that the soul traps kept SOME OG trappees present, and they kept coming back in a kind of reincarnation matrix, and "the Vanished" were when they were finally gone. In my headcanon, "millennia" was still how much time in the intervening time before Karn showed up again, Memnarch's tinkering warping time onto the plane on its own. (Yes, yes, this begs the question why Karn couldn't get back in given he was made of silver specfically due to its temporal resilience; this is the best I've got.) Bosh existed in a state that Slobad could repair; I'm sure there were other golems around. And it had been ~60 years; plenty of time for a handful to be reanimated. You can get a spark...by teleporting a heart. Over a decade later, it's still so damn dumb. Everything Yawgmoth, Memnarch, and many more had ever done to become 'walkers themselves...so pointless, this is telling us. Still haven't headcanoned any of that, but GODS is it dumb. I would like to see that timeline video; too much of MtG's timeline - especially where Mirrodin is concerned - is far too murky. Yes, Mirrodin was/is small. One of the smallest planes we specifically focus on, if not the smallest. Rest assured, if the Sylex were set off as presented in the Brothers' War, Mirrodin would splinter into dust.

@askani21

Жыл бұрын

You read my mind lol Yeah Mirrodin's botched/retconed timeline has always been a headache to me. It's been 300 years. Karn made Argentum 300 years ago. 200 years ago was the Mirari story, and Memnarch's creation. 100 years ago Memnarch was defeated by Glissa and friends. So, either time moved faster within the plane because of Memnarch, or Memnarch just lied and gaslighted the golems to believe it had been millenia. To be fair, 100 years is enough for "generations" of people to be born on the plane before Memnarch is defeated. It's short, but possible. Did you read something about the timeline inconsistencies? Has WotC clarified anything?

@christopherb501

Жыл бұрын

@@askani21 Yes, I have. I actually read the nim-damned books. And no, WotC never bothered to reconcile these issues, just retcon away.

Return of the king. Always worth the wait for these.

I love this video SO SO much and it's exactly how I've felt about leonin -- and just how WOTC treats their nonhuman races in general. Mirrodin wasn't terrible, but we didn't get anything from the leonin. Everything you say about Scars of Mirrodin is true. The turning point for me was in Theros Beyond Death's story, when we not only didn't get Ajani, but we didn't check in with the leonin at all despite both being critical to the whole premise of the plot. Back to Mirrodin though it still looks like they're ignoring leonin at every turn. Not a single card featuring a group of Mirrans has a single leonin on it. Meanwhile, I'm still desperately waiting on a Ghalma card. She's the whole reason the resistance managed to initially survive! What you say about the Myr is all true, but Myr have the added distinction of only existing on the single plane so far, so every missed opportunity it stings even more. The reveal of a legendary Myr (as well as a handful of Myr cards) does help, but we don't get them in stories or anything. Classic WOTC, always taking one step forward and two steps back in anything and everything creative, and patting themselves on the back for it. Ugh, now I'm pissed off about how they handled werewolves in Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow all over again.

I never comment on youtube but i HAD to go out my way and say that it is absolutely the best magic lore video I've ever watched. Thanks you so so much for all this work, this is just so good !!!

Long time magic player here. I just wanted to let you know that I think your channel is one of the best magic content channels around and I really can’t wait for it to gain more traction. Keep up the great work!

It has been a long time since I found a new channel that is still small like this one with content this well made. Absolutely a diamond in the rough!

I hadn't realized how much nostaglia I had for Mirrodin before watching this. Some of the first cards I saw where beautiful little Myr. Thank you so much for the healthy dose of nostalgia.

Oh god I hope my giant metal dommy mommy ends up ruling the multiverse.

@jankspanking8836

Жыл бұрын

Don't make me get the spray bottle.

@D-Skotes

Жыл бұрын

@@jankspanking8836 Is it filled with Glistening Oil so I can be closer to my Queen?

@Ricardo-zo1ti

Жыл бұрын

Bonk

@christopherb501

Жыл бұрын

How about we compromise and just have her dominate _you?_

@PhantasmalBlast

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s funny how the meme of the dommy mommy has become a thing in the years since we last saw Elesh Norn. Like I remember when New Phyrexia came out no one was talking about her that way. Like maybe a few edgy people said she was hot but there certainly wasn’t a movement behind it. But now it’s so ubiquitous that the de facto nickname for the new version is “Panharmommycon”. … And I would absolutely let her destroy me. Not that I could stop her if I wanted 😍

Mirrodin is small (there's dimensions somewhere, but its much smaller than Earth and you're probably right about it being smaller than the moon), but also, Dominaria is *big*. It's *huge* compared to Earth, and it was even bigger (I think 9x Earth? Like surround a world map with another world map on each side/diagonal) before it got retconned at some point to be "only" a good bit bigger than earth. I'm not sure where that retcon fits with the other impact of the Sylex Blast. My point being that the Sylex devastated Dominaria, which is bigger (and goodness-knows hardier) than Earth, while Mirrodin is smaller (and frankly, being made of hollow spheres can't be the best thing structural-integrity-wise). Unfortunately I'm too lazy to go find exact numbers/sources rn. ...not that any of this will be considered when it comes to the impact of mysterious magic superweapons (that have been rebuilt by entirely different people) on fictional magical planes in the lore of a game that can hardly keep events and characters straight, let alone planetary diameters.

I like the way you tell stories. Not annoying. Earned a sub. Imma binge your other vids.

I'm glad to hear at the end that you're happy with the final product that is this video, even if it ballooned beyond what you were originally planning. My favorite thing on KZread is watching long-form discussions/rants/dissertations on things that their creators are excited about. You've become one of the creators whose videos I most anticipate, in the same vein as folks like Spice8Rack and Noah Caldwell-Gervais. And long live the Myr! I've always wanted to make a Myr commander, but none of the options seemed right. Brudiclad as an honorary myr might've been fine, but his color restrictions were too narrow for it. I'm looking forward to Urtet, and would love to see a short or something from you about how you feel about our new Myr Overlord.

This is the first video of yours that's ever been suggested to me. Who knew I'd be blessed with an absolute bearded vision who'd awaken a love for myrs I never knew I had.

Great video as always my man.

@silvermyr

Жыл бұрын

Cheers dude! Really appreciated your insight the other day

@DiceTry

Жыл бұрын

@Silver Myr No problem, I think your usage ended up being just fine. Almost a 2 hour video though wow, editing must have taken ages.

@silvermyr

Жыл бұрын

I managed to make it take extra long by reshooting loads of it after I'd already edited it ha

this video deserves so much more recognition! you do an amazing job at storytelling!

Awesome cant wait for guildless part 3. Your the best source for dnd material out there.

Amazing video ^_^ Thanks for making this. I hope you make many more. I enjoy the way you navigate the stories and your editing style.

Excellent videos! Thank you for taking the time to do this

Loved watching this video right before the lore stream, great pre-show!

Oh lord. The beard swap part way into the video tho 😍😍😍

Absolutely loved that extensive rundown! As a new player getting into Mtg lore it's been a pretty daunting/discouraging experience to hear about all of the inconsistencies/retcons etc. This could not have been a better combination of all of the important details + a note here and there about the content that is worth skipping. Looking forward to future vids!

Mirrodin was my first plane. Ne and some friends played MtG around this time, even though we barely knew how to play. I full-on identify with how he describes the arts of cards making you feel like you were peeking into some grand, unknown story. Unfortunately, my cards were stolen a little after Scars set, and I didn't play again until about a year or two ago. Now it's all heading back to Mirrodin, and I finally have a real incentive to build that Myr deck I joked about from time to time.

Found you yesterday from your Sorin video and have been loving your content! Can't wait for more! You've earned a sub ❤

Awww a happy ending! Great video again! P.S. Would love if there were two of you as well.

This video is super well made! Very rarely do I sit down for such a long time and not lose engagement at all! Great stuff man, keep it coming 👍👍

I have no doubt that Mirrodin was at least slightly inspired by LEGO's Bionicle a few years prior, which is good, because both are awesome.

Saw a comment on another video that can explain Urobrasks motives a bit better "Plot Twist: Urabrask is the biggest and most devout believer in the perfection that is compleation, because he has so much faith in its superiority and virtue that everyone will willingly choose compleation, in time. He understands that if you have to forcefully impose compleation on others, it's an implicit admission in its shortcomings and undesirable nature."

I love that half of this is about phyrexia and the other is about how much you love myrs😂

Fantastic work you fantastic Myr

This video is just a treat to watch! :) Go Myr!

One of the best MtG lore videos I've ever watched. Looking forward to seeing this channel grow!

good work dude. you made learning this part of the lore fun and easy. thanks a lot. also, you look great with the thicker beard.

So glad I youtube showed me this video and your channel. Great content. I love it. My start with magic was similar to yours. Mirrodin was my first block and even in the long stretches of my life in wich mtg had no part in, mirrodin never really left me. The world and creature design imprinted me. I also share your love for the myr. They are just great and kev walkers original cycle will alway be under my favorite mtg artworks. Thank you for the great content.

New comer to your channel, and after this video, new subscriber, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this. Happy to have stumbled upon your channel and I look forward to your new videos and perusing your older ones. Also, I very much enjoy both the longer beard and your voice. You're very entertaining 😊

I kinda want a scenario where when all hope is lost, Emrakul finally emerges to combat the Phyrexians in a sort of "Force of Nature" vs "Unnatural Force" style showdown. Extremely wishful thinking, but I think it'd be awesome given she's still residing in the moon on innistrad waiting for the perfect time.

Great video dude, keep up the good work! I certainly do not mind waiting if this is the amount and quality we are getting in each video.

Great video! Thank you for great amount of work you put in.

Thanks for this. On my list of D&D campaigns I eventually want to run, playing one on original Mirrodin is definitely on that. Currently dming a Ravnica campaign, so I couldn't be happier with the content of this channel so far. Love both the content as well as the presentation. Funny, heartfelt and utterly entertaining. Looking forward to the next one!

Finally got around to watching this and just today a legendary Myr was revealed for ONE! Brilliant coincidence, and another great vid!! :D

I’m so glad I found your channel. This is top notch content. Thanks for making this

first Video I saw from you and I'm deeply impressed. It's so nice to see someone talking about the flavour of the game instead of just the technical aspect, especially with that passion. But it was not only a great summary of Mirrodin's past (with a good chunk of humor) but also a very cool philosophical analysis of the Myr and artifical life and their purpose in that world out of nowhere. Great Video!

I'm glad you got your five color myr commander who still carries the mirari on his back

Just made it before the story releases. Great job, sir!

Oh my god this is the channel I've been looking for. Just lore about Magic! This is awesome

OOO I love the content man, someone whos energetic, uses great amount of different art and cards to explain the lore? Sign me up!

Ya not going to lie that card story timeline idea sounds awesome. Like I keep pausing/rewinding this video to read the flavor text on quite literally every card that has any for a very similar reason. a hellva time sink to watch and certainly a greater one of you to make, but I'd definitely enjoy it. Hell, I've only just found your channel this past week and am watching em in order. Gotta say, I am loving every video so far and I'm looking forward to more, bother in the video posted after this one from yesterday, and the ones that follow. Also I completely understand on the cant quite let go of your "home" plane like you talked about. as someone who joined right before the original Theros block, and someone who loves mythology in general, I still can't let go of that world of gods and monsters. sure, we got Theros beyond death and i was happy for the return, but it was still only a short visit and like you with the myr and the war, my favorite bits were sidelined for WoTC's story they wanted to tell in their limited number of short stories.

Binging all your videos. Love how you narrate the Lore. Passionate but critical.

Thank you for all the effort! As someone who just started playing, this really gave me a new appreciation for the game! LOVE IT!

Good, easy to understand, lore and can feel your passion for the story and game. Good content. 👍

Wow, this is an awesome video! Subbed and looking forward to more!

I hope you do one of these for every new set that comes out. I love to hear about the lore!

I’m a MtG lore newbie and your style of presentation has been a great aid! Showing cards on the left is also amazingly helpful as most of the time I don’t know what you are talking about.

Thank you for this video! After countless hours trying to find the right video to understand phyrexia i stumbled on yours and it is so well put together, i love how the focus on one "species" that is original from that plane shaped your narrative! I knew of the myr and did not know them well, but they fascinated me eversince i started playing with my big brother. I seldom write comments, but you really have done a terrific job, thank you again.

Great job covering that long twisted story about phyrexian (and the Myr's!) storyline connected to the released sets. That helped me a lot to understand what's going on right now. WotC should be more concerned publishing their own lore, though that players can emotionally participate into the cards they like and play.

Discovered this video today while looking for videos to hype myself up for the new set. Loved the presentation of the lore, and you certainly earned my sub

Late here, but I have started with Mirrodin. It's my favorite plane, and I loved the story of the block. New Phyrexia has become the one thing of Magic's Lore that I DESPISE!!! They have taken my favorite characters, first Glissa, then my beloved plane, then Tamiyo, then Jace and Slobad. I seriously want to see New Phyrexia be utterly destroyed, but I would begrudgingly accept Urabrask taking over but with Elesh Norn and the other Praetors murdered. I love that Urabrask is revolting, it gives me hope that the Mirrans can reclaim their home. I would love to see a Myr become a planeswalker.

So many memories ! I started when the set invasion came out, thanks for the video handsome !

The Legend!

Excellent essay. Bravo Silver Myr!

1:10:10 You actually make a really good point here. Maybe Karn has been affected by the Praetors after all and whispers of violence are driving his actions subconsciously.

I am so happy I found this in my recommended list. The algorithm works. Lmao. But seriously great fucking job on this video. Can't wait to dive in to the rest of your content!

Crazy good work dude ! Keep up !

Wish this dude came back. Best videos for a new player like me. He's so good at distilling info

Yessss! I thought I was the only one that got really excited to hear Taimyo's story and the acknowledgement of Myrs after years of nothing!

This was a fantastic compilation of information that would otherwise take hours/days to uncover in the correct chronological order. Thanks man, great vid

Yo this is a super cool video! Very glad to have stumbled across this channel. Love me some Myr. I have strong feelings for Myr Superion from back when I was first seriously playing Standard. The eventual Heartless Summoning/Superion deck it developed into is still one of my favorite constructed lists, though it’s not actually you know, good, or anything.

Today I finally learned that "older" Mtg lore, and the only thing I am disappointed by now - I want MORE videos.

You did fantastic work! All of your videos have been unbelievably good: I can only hope that some lesser-known planes get some love in the future as well :D

You should have more suscribers, this video must have taken so much work and it turns out awesome. It only hyped me even more for the March of Machinesm can't belive mtg story is getting this good

Hi! New to your channel. Tried to listen while doing something else, but got hooked. Ended up religiously watching your whole video! I already read all books and stories, but the way you told the story was captivating. I love your long in-depth format. I'm also very intrigued by your Guildless video, I'll check out your channel. Thanks! :)

Awesome video! Very impressed with your channel.

Thanks for the hour long rant about your love of Myr. It's nice to have a condensed thing of a full plane of Magic. MtG being a hodgepodge of multiple authors and game designers means there's a lot of moving parts going around in the background.

Sweet lore video, i like how not cringe it was and your use of cards aswell as your fluid conversational talking

i have become OBSESSED with your videos !!!!!!!! incredibly well done you are incredibly good at this, I feel like I am learning more than I have in 13 years of playing the game lmao P.S I had a Myr tribal deck in highschool and it was my pride and joy, Myr Battlesphere forever

I've played magic for years since Kommigawa Saviors and never gave the lore greater thought than the flavor text, this was a fantastic deep dive! Can't wait for more

Commenting because this took a lot of work, thank you for posting this!

I'm a junkie for MTG Lore and stories... so this video and the others you have made, (I specially enjoyed the one about Sorin) are just fantastic. I'm really really enjoying them. Great Video!

Great video, you have gained a new subscriber!

this vid deserves so many more views! looking forward to the next one =O

Love the long formatting for lore videos.

I just want more of your videos!! Found the One on Sorin, loved it!!! And have since then seen Them all, they are Great! I joined at Ixalan so it is Great to hear what came before!

Incredible work, congratulations

Youre so good at what you do! Keep up the good work

Also. YES on the Mirrodin War Chronically please! Also, be a Myr is my favorite inspiring phrase now!

I need more of this retro-videos across all sets!

this is great, so much work!

God this was long but so worth it. I really enjoyed this. I started playing during Scars of Mirrodin. I adore the myr and am super excited for the new Myr Commander. Urtent, Remnant of Memnarch will bring purpose to our little non robot, robot buddies.

Let’s all be myr together and await guildless FIVE!

I don't know who this handsome man is but I'm glad I found his channel.

Silver Myr returned and now we have a WUBRG Myr commander. Coincidence? Yes, and the best one!

GREAT! Video, Thank you for the IMMENSE work you put into this, and to be honest, I wasn't a Myr fan prior to this, but after... I'm A FRIGGIN MYR!!!! lol, Thanks Man.

Honestly, reaaaaaally loving this content. :)

THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD! It now everything makes sense... though, I need more Nichol Bolas/Urza!