Thank you for the interview. Above all is my best wishes for his wife and Dr Peterson. I personally admire his quest, a necessary and rational intellectual approach to continue dialogues towards where is humanity heading. I include him in the realm of the greatest philosophers and intellectuals that have attempted to improve the human condition. Can’t wait to see the project.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍

Thank for supporting this amazing historical person.

Why so much hate on JP? He simply trying to help people about how to think instead of what to think... seeking balance between emotional response and plain logic is not a bad thing.

@davidrapalyea7727

4 жыл бұрын

I started watching Peterson late Summer 2016 and took close notice for more then a year. WHO are the goblins and what universe do they live in? They must be a seriously disfunctional group.

My prayers to the Jordan Peterson family. Stay strong, Thank you for all the wisdom that you have to offer.

JBP is a cool guy.

If you feel the need to censor people, then your ideas aren't worth implementing

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, this "cost/benefit" equation won't be realized until there are body-counts (literal or figurative).

@OTPpride

4 жыл бұрын

Arguments for and against different levels of censorship for different reasons are worth the discussion

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

@@OTPpride Censorship should be undertaken with the utmost caution and for the most extreme cases. That an idea or opinion (or truth or evidence or axiom) "interferes" with an ideological position is not a valid reason to censor it, save in a totalitarian system.

@psedach

4 жыл бұрын

.... China would disagree and their rapid economic progress shows otherwise. I guess context matters.

Just watched the documentary and deeply enjoyed it. My opinion: the movie is well balanced and rather evenly portrays a very deep, thoughtful, complex character transversing a volatile, highly charged and relatively new cultural landscape. I say “new” because many of the tenets of the progressive movement have barely half a generation of cohesion and praxis to rely upon. Not that new is wrong, but time is a crucial and required element to sift out the bad and crystallize the good. The vast majority of Peterson’s formularies are founded on centuries, and in some cases, thousands of years of chronicling, study and sociological maturation. I think that’s why his opponents are too often reduced to protestation, name calling and labeling. I’ve watched hundreds of hours of his KZread content, attended a lecture in NYC and have consumed as much of his adversarial interviews and debates that I can find. My conclusion so far is there are very few of his opponents and critics who bring any sense of thoughtful, factually founded data to dismount the worldview and ethos he is presenting.

@denali9643

4 жыл бұрын

@Isa Who do you think he has avoided and specifically; what crap?

@denali9643

4 жыл бұрын

@Isa Yes I've seen him debate his own fellow Toronto University Professors and they came across horribly weak. I would love to see Peterson and Pinker have a debate and I will look for the Zizek debate as I have not seen that one. As you probably know, Peterson holds little regard for the past few decades of evolution within the Humanities and I agree with him.

@denali9643

4 жыл бұрын

@Isa On the one hand you say he avoids discussion with peers, then you dismiss the fact that head a debate with his peers. Have you read Maps of Meaning? Have you watched his biblical series? You may not like him, but hardly a fraud. Only young, dumb, ignorant people are fooled by him? Fascinating....

Just finished watching "The Rise of Jordan Peterson." This "poem," placed in the documentary toward the end, was read by JBP at McMinnville. He composed it after being disinvited from the main campus. So he not only was inspired to compose it by the disinvite - the audience who followed him to the much smaller, hastily-procured venue were true fans: Life is suffering Love is the desire to see unnecessary suffering ameliorated Truth is the handmaiden of love Dialogue is the pathway to truth Humility is recognition of personal insufficiency and the willingness to learn To learn is to die voluntarily and be born again, in great ways and small So speech must be untrammeled So that dialogue can take place So that we can all humbly learn So that truth can serve love So that suffering can be ameliorated So that we can all stumble forward to the Kingdom of God - Jordan B. Peterson For me there were maybe 3-4 genuinely moving parts in the documentary. As a whole it was extremely disappointing and misleading. It was not at all stressed that the trans issue had to do with COMPELLED SPEECH which has never before been promulgated in English Common Law, EVER: a travesty of wacky SJW compulsion & totalitarian horror which hid behind the trans issue. When Jordan says it was never about the trans issue he was dead on. So this filmmaker - who is a lefty, who nevertheless couldn't help but be attracted to Jordan's goodness - used as the thrust power shall we say of her documentary a false narrative of JBP being a sort of Nazi Hitler Lenin grifter via all the insinuations and accusations overlaid by portentous awful music. Like there was even a question of this possibly being true. HIS ISSUE ALWAYS HAS BEEN WITH THE COMPELLED SPEECH ASPECT OF ALL THIS. Nothing less, nothing more. So all the GOOD things that he has said in talks where he really shines - which could have taken the place of all these mischaracterizations - were not there to save this film. A very false portrait indeed and overall gave me the creeps. The good parts could not save it and I feel dirtied by such a studied and false narrative, and wish I'd never seen it. Poor job. She also managed to smear by association the huge crowds he attracts, all these good people. She shows they're attracted to his message but by showing JBP as an equivocal messenger, she not only falsely tars HIM, but his devoted audiences as well. Note that one "super-fan" who is highlighted has obvious emotional/mental issues -- another is shown as over-the-top & embarrassing his friends. These were the filmmaker's choices as whom to hilight as his fans.

.. Think through all of history up to the present. How many examples of literal *compelled Speech* can you find? Don't limit yourself to just countries. Find examples in all paradigms; political parties, religions, movements, etc. .. .. I learned this from Jordan Peterson. .. Peterson has taken my thinking a step beyond in so many cases. I recommend his many lectures, available on KZread for free. .. Get learning, Canadians. ..

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

There certainly is measurable consequence for not echoing the appropriate puppet-babble of designated ideologies. The canceling of these movies is prime evidence. And let's not forget that JBP predicted that the C-16 "manditory speech" law WOULD be applied against people who did not manifest specific speech. A "legal expert" assured the Canadian Legislature this would not happen. Less than 18 months later it was used as a threat "to comply" against both Peterson and Shepherd.

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

@Isa Truth tends to stand on its own, but lies need to be propped up from so many different angles. And I have noticed the number of different angles that have been introduced in this discussion Isa, jumping from one to another without really gaining any traction for assertions. You'll find true criticism is quite well received on most of those forums you mention. But juvenile attack-and-run tactics not so much. I've actually been amazed at just how much those communities tolerate before deeming someone's free speech as only deceptive speech. Truthful speech Isa. It works wonders. And deceitful speech actively sabotages one's ability to discern between good and evil.

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

@Isa One doesn't need to counter assertion with no evidence to back it up other than "feelings". (Postmodernism deals not with objective evidence, but subjective evidence. Pick one or the other; you cannot have both!) Consider the logic of asserting something without ojbective evidence and then claiming some manner of victory that others cannot employ objective evidence against subjective assertion! Present something rational Isa, and we will have a rational discussion! Your assertions to date (and there's a lot of them) have proven totally unfounded in anything other than your own subjective feelings. Good and evil are transcendent, metaphysical concepts. Few if any, are their "master". It's more like there are a very very few who actually seek the good, by looking to take personal responsibility for themselves (and their ideas/opinions) and to not poison their "reality-detecting equipment" with lies and self-deceit.

Film not available from the Canadian iTunes Store. Classic.

@sahilkhurana_

4 жыл бұрын

and Canadian Prime Video

bunch of cowards who do not want to put out ideas are those who cancel culture.

Where can I see this documentary? I can’t seem to find it anywhere in KZread 🤔

@lotharlamurtra7924

4 жыл бұрын

kyra moonrise you will find the movie in KZread.

Great video but please next time fix the master volume it’s so hard to hear

What is the "controversy" that they speak about in the video?

I pray for his daughter to

Jordan Peterson oh no Hope he gets better he's the best

If the trans people could accept themselves it would go a long way to accepting others.

Looking forward to thinkspot competing with the social censoring sites

Now he thinks he is Skywalker. "The Rise of Skywalker" What next ???

Why did the guy walk up late during the opening monologue? Then the Fat guy walks up acting like there is something in the closet then walks across the stage and directly in front of the camera?

In a society, if there are some areas of conflict between the rights of the majority and the rights of some minorities, the rights of the majority should prevail. .. Does anybody else think this is obvious?

@OTPpride

4 жыл бұрын

bimmjim yes and that is what happens in nearly every scenario. The rights of minority groups is something the West is very proud of though, and fighting for the little guy is something we love too.

@bimmjim

4 жыл бұрын

@@OTPpride Pedophilia? Forced language? Men in women's bathrooms?

@bimmjim

4 жыл бұрын

@@OTPpride Men in women's sports. Ask the female athletes.

@OTPpride

4 жыл бұрын

bimmjim are you stupid?

He quit it cold turkey? As a CLINICAL psychologist shouldn't he have know that's very dangerous? I know psychiatrists are usually the ones who prescribe the drugs but here in the US PCP's can prescribe them. I love the guy but....tsk

@annieinwonderland

3 жыл бұрын

He can't prescribe he does talk therepy or used to.

Eye am not a fan of Peterson and will be at odds over the pronouns issues. That stated, as an artist am not Politically Correct and as he does, WILL not stand with either left or right wing political extremism that is fundamentally authoritarian. As a student scholar Will state that his analysis of religious, philosophical and social themes in movies such as The Lion King are genius like.

Don't rate the guy at all,,, u want the real deal and honestly the real deal he's still around is without doubt tony parsons, this guy is nothing but a lunatic,

I read his book, its full of philosophy. He read the Bible and missed the message.

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

@Brian Bellin He side-stepped the religious message. To say that he missed it would be to say there was nothing more than religion there -- remembering, that religion is man-made. (If it helps, remember that God does not equal religion nor does religion equal God. Both defile God in unimaginable ways).

@dvrmte

4 жыл бұрын

Is there something wrong with philosophy? Are you saying the psychological significance of the Bible stories isn't real? Peterson wrote his book so that a high school graduate could understand it. What's your problem?

@griz063

4 жыл бұрын

@@dvrmte Religion may be the problem. With the caveat that "religion" is "us trying to put a handle on God". And secondarily, any set of presuppositions one applies "religiously" manifests almost all of the same artifacts as what most identify as "organized deistic religion". I find personally that there is a considerable push-back against Peterson because he presents things in a far more "academic" manner than some "followers of religion" are comfortable with. Again, I'm casting a distinction between a "seeker of Truth" and a "follower of religion". If Truth is the highest standard then religious perceptions might have to change. But if religion is the highest standard, then everything else (including God?) has to change to meet that standard.

Petersons books are self-help books for himself

@ToddHowes

4 жыл бұрын

His chapter on parenting is the single most important message for any parent. You can disregard his advice but your kids will grow to resent you if you do.

@dvrmte

4 жыл бұрын

Do you have anything intelligent to add, like what you thought of the book 12 Rules for Life after actually reading it?

Just finished watching "The Rise of Jordan Peterson." This "poem," placed in the documentary toward the end, was read by JBP at McMinnville. He composed it after being disinvited from the main campus. So he not only was inspired to compose it by the disinvite - the audience who followed him to the much smaller, hastily-procured venue were true fans: Life is suffering Love is the desire to see unnecessary suffering ameliorated Truth is the handmaiden of love Dialogue is the pathway to truth Humility is recognition of personal insufficiency and the willingness to learn To learn is to die voluntarily and be born again, in great ways and small So speech must be untrammeled So that dialogue can take place So that we can all humbly learn So that truth can serve love So that suffering can be ameliorated So that we can all stumble forward to the Kingdom of God - Jordan B. Peterson For me there were maybe 3-4 genuinely moving parts in the documentary. As a whole it was extremely disappointing and misleading. It was not at all stressed that the trans issue had to do with COMPELLED SPEECH which has never before been promulgated in English Common Law, EVER: a travesty of wacky SJW compulsion & totalitarian horror which hid behind the trans issue. When Jordan says it was never about the trans issue he was dead on. So this filmmaker - who is a lefty, who nevertheless couldn't help but be attracted to Jordan's goodness - used as the thrust power shall we say of her documentary a false narrative of JBP being a sort of Nazi Hitler Lenin grifter via all the insinuations and accusations overlaid by portentous awful music. Like there was even a question of this possibly being true. HIS ISSUE ALWAYS HAS BEEN WITH THE COMPELLED SPEECH ASPECT OF ALL THIS. Nothing less, nothing more. So all the GOOD things that he has said in talks where he really shines - which could have taken the place of all these mischaracterizations - were not there to save this film. A very false portrait indeed and overall gave me the creeps. The good parts could not save it and I feel dirtied by such a studied and false narrative, and wish I'd never seen it. Poor job. She also managed to smear by association the huge crowds he attracts, all these good people. She shows they're attracted to his message but by showing JBP as an equivocal messenger, she not only falsely tars HIM, but his devoted audiences as well. Note that one "super-fan" who is highlighted has obvious emotional/mental issues -- another is shown as over-the-top & embarrassing his friends. These were the filmmaker's choices as whom to hilight as his fans.