I'm so glad I'm not the only one that remembers FFTL. They were my intro to post-hardcore and will always have a special place in my heart

@deengew

Ай бұрын

thats sad

Finally someone does a deep dive on this band! it's very weird to me how people don't bring them up when talking about 00's "emo/scene" even tho they were up there with The Used and Paramore in terms of popularity.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

FFTL was my favorite band for many years and is till up there. It's honestly sad how forgotten they are considering like you said, they were huge. And arguably the sounds they played with ended up being more influential overtime. They deserve way more credit than a lot of other bands get from that era. Same with Aiden, The Chariot, Drop Dead Gorgeous, and Matchbook Romance. Just seems like everyone forgot about the mall goth era when late 2000s scene took over.

@sebastianslaughter1913

Жыл бұрын

@@graymads Absolutely agree. Aiden is another band from that era that's very special to me. Shame that people don't talk about them. I feel like MCR fans would absolutely love them.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianslaughter1913 you have good taste lol

@dexxxhundo1365

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianslaughter1913 dxe romantic

@dustinvanwinkle5078

11 ай бұрын

Still jam to fftl, Alesana and Aiden quite often. Always bums me out people only ever mention the ones who hit mainstream popularity

Was listening to them on the school bus at 14 and now I'm 32 and listen to them at the gym.

I was 15 when “note to self” started to blast on Stevens Untitled Rock Show back in the gap. Whenever that shit plays at emo nights at clubs, the pit still goes crazy

@orchidmalevolence9726

Жыл бұрын

One of the best riffs ever written mate. I still remember the first time I've heard that intro riff, I decided to pick up a guitar and write the same music!

Sonny Moore is by far one of my favourite vocalists of this genre. From his slight lisp and the raspiness of his voice to his lyricism in Heroine… I was gutted when he left the band, but I enjoyed seeing FFTL play their self titled album when they opened for Deftones in 2007. Matt fell off the stage and hurt his finger and his guitar got bloody while he strummed until the song ended. Metal af

I can't even put into words how much this band means to me and the good memories i had singing their songs with the people that i've cared the most. An special person for me who passed away years ago used to find himself in Sony's voice and lyrics and everytime i hear FFTL i just feel like i'm a little bit closer to him again. I've think that FFTL is popular in USA but where i'm from is basicly impossible to find someone that knew who their where, so thanks for sharing the band, I hope that KZread's algorithm makes it reach more people like it reached me.

I hope they release a new album with Sonny and bring back the edgy and angsty of their old sound. Make War and Surrender sounded way too poppy for me.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

You and me both, apparently they were working on an EP

@heg1098

Жыл бұрын

Make war is super catchy but I wish they did a full ep

@sonsique

Жыл бұрын

@@graymadsThey were working on an EP and we don’t know everything that happened, but something bad happened at Emo Night/before a show and shit fell apart It was presumed to be made up of Make War, Surrender, and Veins, but Veins ended up turning into a collab with Shinigami (at least that is the current theory, since it has a mix between that poppy style of Make War and Surrender as well as some of the instrumental style of Dear Diary.) Due to Sonny being busy (or in some people’s opinion, playing the absolute shit out of the band for clout during a dry period in his career, although I don’t see him doing that.) A lot of people also think Deltitnu, House Party In A Hostage Crisis, and Last Chance To Survive (by Matt Good) were planned for this EP, but it’s very unlikely since Matt says these songs were written in 2020. Even though Sonny is gone, the band (and the members) have been teasing a “Throne To The Wolves Part II” on Twitter, mentioning the prospect of it early last year. FFTL may not be fully laid to rest. It deserves to go out with a bang, as opposed to the 2 singles and 1 collab song we got. Something happened between Sonny and the boys, either he bailed on a show due to his busy schedule or just couldn’t make it work for one reason or another, and the band has been wanting to get a record out for 5 years but is too afraid to get more backlash after Sonny only came back for 2 songs.

@marchello84

Жыл бұрын

@@graymads 😊😊

@ErvinandMFantasyFootball

Жыл бұрын

@@graymadsidk, you said Heroin was your favorite album.

We need more "forgotten greats" type vids like this

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

Thats part of the point of these videos lmao

I came back to say two members (Derek, drums, and Travis (guitar and unclean vocals) are in the band If I Die first, which is basically FFTL 2.0. FFTL is still active and Matt Good stated they have new music ready. Hoping they do something this year for the 20th anniversary of dear diary. Where it all really started for them.

Would you consider doing a video about Senses Fail? I’ve always wanted to see a documentary style video about them as they’re one of my favorite bands ever and one of the best from this scene

@anthonydowns9632

10 ай бұрын

THAT WOULD BE DOPE!!!

@nellanellaperched6767

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

Found this band a couple months ago after finding Chiodos, and I’ve been going down the rabbit hole ever since. As a current high schooler who loves modern core shit, it’s been a wild experience going back and listening to where all the stuff started, and even wilder finding out that Sonny was Skrillex lol. Used to listen to dubstep all the time in 6th grade, even shaved half my head like Sonny did. I’d like to say my musical taste came full circle. Great video, looking forward to binging your entire channel🤘

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

Chiodos is another amazing band! Great taste :)

@nellanellaperched6767

5 ай бұрын

Sitting here at 32 thinking how WILD this comment is holy shitttt dude. Way too dope

@millierosse1558

Күн бұрын

@@nellanellaperched6767 I feel so old lol

@nellanellaperched6767

Күн бұрын

@@millierosse1558 it was like a light switch. We had no time to prepare lol

Literally my teenage years! Never tired of FFTL, glad to see a video about them :)

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

Same, after all these years I still bump them all the time!

@DCgames12345

Жыл бұрын

Very Underrated in the music world

such a great retrospective on fftl 🔥 this is the most in depth and thorough of details ive heard of the band and sonny's early career in music in particular. fantastic job! 👏🏻 i was glued to the screen until the very end. 10/10 this makes me want to revist their music now. for some reason i always was more drawn to matt's records than sonnys i never knew why i still dont cuz sonnys voice is one of a kind. maybe cause i always thought matt was such a cutie so that could be one reason lol 😅ummm throne to the wolves was always my personal fav record of the bands. worlds away is also such a classic to me and always pops in my head. imo sonny and matt both have such raw powerful vocals that are just very engaging to listen to.

I really hope they return. They’ve been dead quiet since Emo night 2019 😢

@stephaniemendez2049

4 ай бұрын

rightt:( its cuz skrillex is too busy dj-ing lol

@RetroExhibitCollective

4 ай бұрын

@@stephaniemendez2049 yep, and it’s the 20th anniversary for dear diary so I really hope he takes time to stop with the DJ nonsense, like he’s gotta get bored of that at some point. He knows fans want something new so I really hope he can for the fans but also for the band itself.

@dyzzee7861

2 ай бұрын

Sunny is back out of the band they really should have stuck with Spencer sotello He's a phenomenal vocalist, he may not have went back to periphery if they hadn't kicked him out.

It wasnt during Warped Tour, It was the 2006 World Championship Tour headlined by Atreyu. Atreyu kicked them off because they were going to try and have Craig sing and that would compromise the whole package. I remember it well.

Im from Australia and way back in 2004 me and my mate went to Whistler for a snowboard week and we deliberately went back to LA to see FFTL at House of Blues in Anahiem.. What a night! Band came out and signed some stuff. Matt Good and Travis Rickter are fucking legends! haha Travis couldn’t understand my accent but he got me backstage cause for some reason. “Aussie accents are awesome!?” 🤷🏻‍♂️ but a hell of a night. Matchbook Romance and Bayside played that night aswell 🎉 Shame Sonny became skrillex. But after meeting him, that dubstep beat was ‘his beat’ He was a little different. Very smart tho!! Anyways I rambled on abit so thanks for listening. lol🤘🏼 Dope video too 👍🏼👍🏼 Made me feel 16 again

@Yelhsa0703

3 ай бұрын

I can confirm that Aussies love Whistler lol Whistler is Oz of the northern hemisphere I’d say

this was such a great and informative video. fftl is such an incredibly underrated band. it’s so nice to see other fans that still dive into the nostalgia of their music and continue to appreciate it.

Omg my emo MySpace days of coding FFTL stuff onto my page haha. Awesome.

It's probably not integral to the story of how the band started but the reason they were looking for a guitarist and recruited Sonny is because Travis actually broke both of his arms while riding a skateboard and barrelling into a wall. I don't remember where he said it anymore but it was some interview. Then they heard Sonny sing the backing vocals in the studio and decided to put him on vocal. By then most of Dear Diary was written by Matt so yea Sonny's lyrics are Emily and Boxer on that album. Also probably it deserved to be mentioned in this video as well - the show in the very early era of the band with Sonny where he performed with blood running down his face from the broken nose which some guy broke 30mins before FFTL performance and he refused to let it stop him from singing. I think it was Warped tour, the video was on youtube. This injury, which was never properly treated and caused his nose to heal wrong, caused his later vocal issues (due to him being unable to breathe through his nose and only thorugh his mouth, putting strain on his vocal chords) which eventually lead him to leaving the band and even later getting nose surgery after 3 previous vocal surgeries. He also said after the surgery that he never actually learned how to sing properly since his start as the band's vocalist was so quick and there was never time for him to learn any techniques and his screaming was done always in a way that was damaging him further. I want to mention something most people don't know and highlight just how generous and incredibly caring to their fans FFTL always were. In 2008, after the release of self-titled, the band announced tour dates in EU and back then I contacted our local promoter in a futile hope of him trying to secure a date for Prague. He did and the band agreed to become the last addition to a show along with Silverstein. The most amazing part of it is that they did this show for almost no fee at all, simply because they've never been to Prague and wanted to visit. They had the best time here, we hung out with them after the show and they were the nicest guys ever and basically did this show for a city tour and dinner after concert by the promoter. Second thing I want to add is that despite the kickstarter long-winded path with Dead Trees, year-long silence, line-up changes and everything, they committed to delivering that album to everyone who supported it. Even though the lowest support tiers were originally only for digital download only, they shipped the physical copies of the album even to them all over the world. So, thank you for this video, bringing awareness back to them because honestly they were one of the pillars of the emo/post-hardcore scene in the 00's and deserve all the recognition. I still consider them as one of the top favorite bands in my life. Hopefully we will hear from them again at some point.

I watched the music video for “Ride the Wings of Pestilence” over and over. They had influences of other Warped Core bands but they had that intangible special sauce that set them apart.

It's interesting how history works. For those interested, Matt Manning was in a hardcore band called Nor Am I, before he joined FFTL. I was also in that band (as the singer) and I had connections with people who knew FFTL, and brought the band down to that area, where Matt became friends with them while Nor Am I was still a thing. Our drummer had just left to pursue school, and we were looking for a new one, and before I had joined Nor Am I, I tried out for another band called "The Last Try" which consisted of drummer Jake Bundrick (Mayday Parade) and Blake Steiner. I ended up joining Nor Am I instead, and when our drummer departed, we talked to Jake about playin drums for us. He even came to a tryout, but ultimately did not end up playing with us, but in doing that.. the rest of the band (including Matt Manning) got to know both Jake and Blake Steiner.... Of course Matt would end up in FFTL shortly after our band split, and he recruited Blake later. I didn't end up playing in any notable bands after that (sadly) but it's fun to think about sometimes, (and they probably don't even remember it) had I not joined Nor Am I, they likely would have never crossed paths, and this musical history lesson might be very different.

My favorite band ever since 04. Thanks for the video

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

It was a labor of love.

As an fftl fan from well over a decade ago I just came across this and I’m in love, you need way more views, I hope this random find pushes more to your channel.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

This video was a labor of love. Been a die hard fan since 2010.

Throne to the Wolves is one of my favorite album of all times 🖤

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

I hate that it became so obscure in the long run because it's a fucking amazing record.

EXCELLENT QUALITY DOCUMENTARY

I remember finding these guys in college and I fell in love with their music. Every album never failed to impress. (Throne to the Wolves is my personal favourite.) Now I’m 36 years old and still blasting them out on a daily basis 😂

Dude I had no idea about practically any of this! The line up changes, the meaning behind some of the lyrics I’ve been listening to for years! Matt Good’s absolute unwavering tenacity all of those years. erm yeah thank you for making this. Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one who fondly remembers this band and thinks that they really did something innovative and special. As far as I know they were the first to do the helium vocal post hardcore with pop punk sensibilities. It makes sense that one of the members ended up in human abstract that’s also one of my fave bands. I hope Matt is capitalizing on this revival right now 🤔

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

FFTL was a power house of talent. Not every band could recruit someone like Wes Borland or get the attention of Ross Robinson.

Heroine is still a top 25 record for me. People only ever talk about Dear Diary, but Heroine is objectively the most diverse and intense record they made. Hell, I still ride for self titled and at least SOME of Throne lol.

Derek wrote most of the lyrics on Dear Diary and Throne, plus he was the best drummer of his generation, LEGEND

A fantastic comprehensive overview but man how did you skip over covering their final (as of now) show in NOLA 2019. It’s where they played Surrender live for the first time, and they even whipped out Populace In Two. It was such an amazing show to be at

Aesthetic is my favorite album of all time.

@Jaytl359

Жыл бұрын

Hands fucking Down! Great album.

"Heroine is an absolute masterpiece" - absolutely agree. FFTL was one of my favorite bands back then. Still rinse that album to this day. Thanks for making this!

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

FFTL has been in my top 5 forever. Thanks for checking out the video.

Mannn no video could've been better to document FFTL. Thank you for making this!

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

Had to do the boys some justice. Thanks for watching!

Aesthetic is an ep I listen to a lot

just found you on my main page binged al oad of your videos, you have a good style and i like how through your documentary style is. you should have a lot more subs. great content keep it up

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Their debut is my favorite album of all time. I go back to it multiple times a year

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

Dear Diary is god tier

@aaronvilla3824

Жыл бұрын

@@graymads something about that early 2000 emo post hardcore that just hits different. That album and Alexisonfire’s debut are insanely good for their time

Oh my heart ❤

I love Sonny's vocals both in FFTL and those in his first electronic music projects to a point that it's insane. If you listen to "Mora" you know what I'm talking about. So versatile as a singer

It's about damn time someone put out a video of this glorious band! And a great job you did sir, thus earning a sub!

Love them sm they're my childhood band with my all time favorite Worlds Away. If only I was born earlier to experience it longer. And c'mon Dead Trees was and still is a badass album I love them all to be frank

My all time favorite track on Heroine is the self titled Heroine. Absolutely incredible

Goddamn, I genuinely welled up and shed a tear when you said that _Heroine_ was a masterpiece. They'd already been one of my favorite bands since their debut but I vividly remember the first time I'd heard the synths from the title track for _Heroine_ on a Fuse ad and I fucking knew that I needed that album. It's for sure my all-time favorite of theirs with _Throne To The Wolves_ right behind it, criminally underrated and underappreciated, I always loved how much of a cynical middle finger _Throne..._ was, and has aged fucking incredibly. Oh and Derek's drumming went so hard, easily my favorite from that era of the genre/scene. 🖤

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

Those are my two favorite albums too. Good taste.

@atlys258

Жыл бұрын

@@graymads Lol agreed my guy, you do too, especially after watching your Dir En Grey, MSI, & BMTH vids, still need to go back and comment on Diru & MSI lol

Thank you for making this.

Wow, their self-titled was one of my favorite albums years ago, it's interesting to hear an opinion completly different from mine. English was never my first language, so I was never thinking about lyrics as the biggest part of their music, for me this album is just so catchy from beginning to start, that is addictive.

Absolutely Amazing video, super well done! FFTL is one of my favorite bands of all time and you definitely did their legacy justice with this.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

I am glad you liked it! FFTL deserves to be remembered for the legends they were!

yesss i used to listen to my teenage angst has a bodycounton my CD walkman on repeat lmaoo what a great album. xo

"NOW I SEEE THE TRUTH IN YOUR EYES"

Man great video, just found you from your reddit post. FFTL was my real entry into the genre decades ago and hearing the tracks from the video brought back so many memories. I can't really get much into their newer rebirthed albums, but Dear Diary will forever be a part of me. I'm still riding the wings of pestilence to this day.

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

thank you! and yea FFTL is the best band from that era.

aesthetic EP is the best album from them IMHO

So siick to see a video about this band. Still one of my favorite bands to this day 😼

Good to see a vid on them they really are forgotten legends it’s mad.. best band ever thx for the vid!

I LOVE Throne to the Wolves, one of the few albums I never get tired of listening front to back… or from first to last ;)

I'd love more music from them. Such a good band. Way ahead of their time in my opinion. I still jam them all the time.

My first concert when I was 14 in 2005, with He Is Legend and Haste The Day. Wish I could go back all the time.

Heroine is an album i've listened to more than anything else I've ever purchased. Even tho I probably do like the sound of Dear Diary more.

I miss MySpace

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

Degenerate.

One armed boxer is such a good song i love the drumming from this band in my opinion it isnt talked about as much as it should be, secrets dont make friends is another really solid drum track

Absolutely amazing

@RyanRexWrex

Жыл бұрын

Dead Trees review was the most generic part of the video sadly, love that album. That album is amazing.

I will never understand what it is about FFTL that stuck around to me through all these years where others left it behind. Theres so many parts where it feels like they caught lightning in a bottle. When I think of the scene back then this is the first band I will always think of. It felt like a movement for my teen angst and kinda shaped me a bit.

Wow i found someone who made content about FFTL. Legendary and unknown. It's strange that nobody did this before 'cause this band have really interesting story. TttW is unfairly underrated. Still waiting something new from them. Nice video, keep up the good work! :)

I am so glad I saw these guys back in the good ol' days on the Heroine tour! The title track still remains one of my favorite songs of all time!

Massive FFTL fan. Really love the video until the end. Those two new songs are NOTHING like the OG Sonny era.

Thank you for this. I've been listening to FFTL since the beginning. I hope the boys make one last album idc if it's with Matt good or sonny .

It’s hard to believe that this was my favorite band almost 20 years ago.

Love From First To Last! Super underrated IMO. My band Discord Theory is lucky enough to record with Dear Diary producer Lee Dyess 🤘

Ride the wings of pestilence, note to self, Emily. My favorites. Also secrets don't make friends.

Awesome video! These guys don't get the love they deserve.

Great video

Their first EP is by far their best release!!! I fkn loveeeeee that EP

@BrandonBrown-wl3xy

Жыл бұрын

Lolololol and "For the Taking" is my favorite track

There used to be a full video of their emo nite set on either owsla or fftl's KZread page, and it seems to be gone now. There's a couple reuploads of individual songs, but not the full show. I hope it isn't lost, super important piece of music history

Came for FFTL stayed for the SH2 sounds

I still can’t believe this is the same guy who made bangarang wtf

subscribed cause they were your top in HS. same bro. FFTL and The Used >.>

@arwtw33

Жыл бұрын

checking the sonny video now before I continue this my b

Surrender is an absolute fucking CLASSIC!!!

BMTH new song Lost sounds like what FFTL should be sounding like today. I honestly feel like they wrote it and gave it to BMTH

I first became aware of FFTL because of Andy Biersack from Black Veil Brides being friends with Matt Good. Only discovered the Skrillex connection later.

ALSO, you never said a damn word about failure by designer jeans. I think that deserves a shout

@graymads

Жыл бұрын

I actually had to cut it because the KZread content ID blocked the video over that song. Most of my channel is demonitized because I use clips but a few songs straight up get you blocked off. Had to cut 3 songs including a 2 minute breakdown of "The Words 'Best Friend' Become Redefined" thanks to it.

@eck4324

Жыл бұрын

@@graymads oh ok fair

🤘🤘

Banger

Iremember them on fuse with my latest plague. I didn't get into them that much and kind of forgot about them. In 20212 I found them again and got dead trees. I also have throne to the wolves and from first to last as well.

I just don’t get why he never mentioned the song “Worlds Away.” It was truly a groundbreaking song that changed the scene musically and showed a new sound that everybody loved.

@screamitsoftly

2 ай бұрын

im not sure about everything else u said but i do love worlds away was sad he didn't let us hear a snippet of it lol :'c

Track called “worlds away” on self titled with Matt (my crush) singing is about sonny leaving!!!!

I miss sonny but I also liked their album after him

FFTL was one of the GOATS with ALL their albums, especially throne to the wolves.

“Throne to the Wolves is their second best outing, behind Heroine” Finally. That album was so much better than it got credit for. Those first four albums have always been close to my heart. There’s also been no other band I’ve followed as closely, which was a roller coaster for a fan. The abuse they took from fans after Sonny left was horrible, Myspace briefly filled up with stuff like “you guys suck without Sonny”. Every time I think of that I think about how Throne was basically the soundtrack to my life for that year. The Color of Violence was also one of my all-time favorite hardcore records. The surf rock style and humor made it an iconic album for me.

If it wasn't for this band I would've killed myself from depression years ago. Dear Diary, though isn't my favorite fftl record, is still the album that has the most impact to me growing up.

Sucks that matt and his biological father had just reconnected and rekindled their relationship after X amount of years. i.e. "you would bury the hatchet and start again but you threw it all away" also what hit me when my friend matt told me the whole story was "you were so young! x2 your were so dumb! x2" Sorry if some lyrics are off but anyways. Very hard on matt and I could see it.

Band changed my life

GENISIS

I love your vids. Music/aesthetic nostalgia is is my jam. Plz do a vid on Darude-Sandstorm and how it was the soundtrack to the millennium

@graymads

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that would make a good video. I just might!

@nulspace3782

2 жыл бұрын

@@graymads it’s sad there are no vids that talk about the aesthetic and culturally effect of that song.

Back to Hannalei is my Favorite song!

When I was younger, friends of mine used to play these guys songs on their phones, I didn't really think much of it, sounded whiney and such to me at the time but that may be because of how bad the phone speakers were and how bad my concentration is. When I listened to these after I got home a few months later and actually paid attention to the instruments and lyrics I was like... Holy shit bro shit is so good.

Dead Baby Kickball (Hidden Track) on Dear Diary, was actually 5 minutes lmao. The Beau Burchell remaster from 2005 (yes Saosin Beau.) was what cut it down to 3… I honestly prefer the Lee Dyess mix of the album from 2004. Alot of songs got cut down on Beau’s mix.

Aesthetic is my favorite

From first to last was like their old stuff was basicly pop punk post hardcore and no one was really doing that back then of that level Silverstein say theyre og emo but From first to last had the pure raw sound.

I love FFTL omg i touvhed to sonny moores hand and hug him.

Dead Trees is a badass album and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on.

@gogoheretic

Ай бұрын

Absolutely you will not

I feel I had a different and equally important relationship with each of their releases (except for Dead Trees. I was listening to different genres at that point). They were a big part of my music listening life for a stretch there, and I still go back occasionally to get those feels. And it's crazy how those core things influence you. To this day it's hard for me to write a traditional song format. I'd much rather have a chorus at the beginning and end like Note to Self lol

I love old FFTL n it's so underrated even though it was so influential and good ‼️ Sonny was way too good and unique and a lot of people have no idea it's literally Skrillex singing 💀

Heroine is the best album of that decade. Of that genre. There's nothing else to say about it.