I'm rooting for Sauron on this one, hope he sends the whole of Middle Earth to Oblivion

@danieljlanoue8823

Жыл бұрын

They will completely bastardize Sauron in season 2.

@TeodorAngelov

Жыл бұрын

@@danieljlanoue8823 didn't they bastardize him enough?

@danieljlanoue8823

Жыл бұрын

@@TeodorAngelov RoP will give him the Guyladriel treatment in season 2. Total destruction and unrecognizable

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

@@danieljlanoue8823 My bet is that now dead Isildur's sister will take up the banner Karendriel dropped and when Sauron has forged his one ring wearing it not on his fingers or in his ears but on an other part of his anatomy Eariel will cut it off from root to stem.

@omegamwihambi2496

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Sauron never wanted to be a king, Galadriel forced him to be one. Sauron saved Galadriel from drowning, Galadriel left her troops frozen to death. Sauron showed his diplomacy, Galadriel showed her selfishness. Sauron admits his mistakes, Galadriel indirectly blames others of her mistakes. Sauron (a Maiar) gets wounded, Galadriel (an elf) remains unscatched even from a pyroclastic flow. Sauron remains so cool even when angry, Galadriel uncontrollably twitches her nose when angered. This is the only series that made me rooting for the villain to win.

@NP3GA

Жыл бұрын

All hail Sauron the great

@Tim67620

Жыл бұрын

A pyroclastic flow would have killed everyone! Check Pompeii. I'm not a troll, I am just pissed that a show I enjoyed is being crapped on so much. Sauron never revealed himself until the last episode.

@frankjennings4489

Жыл бұрын

@@Tim67620 What did you love so much about it? I'm genuinely curious.

@Tim67620

Жыл бұрын

@@frankjennings4489 I love the world of Lord of the Rings and this series portrays it really well. I know what you're on about. Take into account that Amazon couldn't purchase the rights to all the information from the Tolkien estate even though they spent a pile of money. So, if the writers included anything they were not supposed to then any law suit would easily cost them double. Ok, the writers of House of the Dragon did a much better job but they had Martin in their camp and that show is better. I don't know why the Harfoots are so unappreciated. They add a jolly and natural side to the story and they do discover the Meteor Man, who I believe to be Mithrandir. I heard the writers have all been sacked. Sounds like a Bezos thing to me but the viewing figures were lower than expected for the cost of production. We know Galadriel as a supreme Queen from Jackson's films, all six of them. It's surprising that his Lord of the Rings was done so well. So, I have watched the series twice now and have enjoyed each episode. There are definitely worse things about, past and present. Yeah, they built up a plot and kept us guessing about three men. Was Sauron Harbrand, was he Meteor Man or was he a dishevelled elf looking person building up an army of Orcs? Morgoth and Sauron had been defeated and cast away in the First Age and Sauron was trying to come back. The series isn't about the Elves, it isn't about the Dwarves, it isn't about Numenor, it isn't even about Sauron, it's about all of them, even the Harfoots. They're not going to get Rings of Power literal from the texts, they can't, but the first series was enjoyable. The vistas were great and the action was satisfyingly gruesome. Ok, Galadriel acted like a spoilt teenager a lot. Perhaps Nenya will mature her. Perhaps her heart was full of hurt and her oath to avenge her brother Finrod's death was driving her in this series. I felt that Harbrand was Sauron while they were both in Numenor. However, the men of Numenor were pretty hateful of elves by the time they arrived and only Elendil and the Queen Regent held the old ways. Sauron had obviously been to Numenor earlier to stir up the men against the elves and I heard talk of sailing west during the series. Perhaps the writers could not use the name Annatar in Numenor or Lindon. So they made up the name Halbrand. I have been a Lord of the Rings fan since I first read it in 1968. I enjoyed the unfinished animated version by Ralph Bakshi but Peter Jacksons Lord of the Rings towers above anything before or since. He even took some scenes from the animated film and reproduced them in his own. I do like the Hobbit, I bet you don't. I do like The Rings of Power as the series allows us back in that wonderful world of Middle Earth. I'm with 'In Deep Geek' with this one.

@sheogorath6804

Жыл бұрын

If you didn't read the books and KNEW Sauron was evil what would stop you from rooting for Sauron over everyone else on the show? Yeah, nothing, because Sauron is the fucking good guy in ROP.

The writers wanted so badly to make Galadriel into Eowyn and I completely baffled as to why except for the purposes of fanservice. They had the exact same story arc (a woman obsessed with fighting needs to learn to let go of her anger), very similar personalities, gave her chemistry with a long-lost king, and they even dressed her up like Eowyn while she was in Numenor. It wasn't subtle in the slightest and made it feel like the writers fundamentally misunderstood Galadriel's character. Even if you dismiss it as harmless fanservice, Galadriel would have been 5,000 years old at the minimum here. She is older than every other elf in the show and yet is portrayed like an obnoxious child. It is a massive disservice to her character in the lore and made it feel like they just wanted her to be a girl boss and didn't care about anything else.

@LokiTheAnsuz

Жыл бұрын

If that was their intention, they misunderstood Eowyn as well. She was decisively feminine and it was her femininity that made her arc so appealing and her courage so relevant... This show's Galadriel is just a manchild cosplaying as Galadriel...

@soy_boy69

Жыл бұрын

Better than eywon , she killed a fucking elephant , fellbeast and the witch king , overrated as fuck in my opinion.

@destinyhntr

Жыл бұрын

It really shows how feminism was done well back then and nowadays it isn't about showing women growing and becoming strong, complex characters. Now it's just about showing how effortlessly great women are and how perfect they are without ever needing to grow or learn from their mistakes. Eowyn was, technically, a very simple character with a plot arc that is cliche nowadays, but it was handled well and still made her feel like a fleshed out woman who wasn't perfect. The female characters nowadays are often rude, unrealistically powerful (fighting men much bigger than them but without using techniques that help to counter their size differences), arrogant, and unlikeable. Eowyn is great to see because she isn't as strong as the others but is determined to help anyway. She doesn't beat the bad guy with strength because it would be silly for her to somehow overpower this giant guy with incredible strength and immortality. That's why her victory is so much more satisfying. We have seen her fail and persist and then she finally wins by teaming up with the other character similar to her that was also told to stay behind. Eowyn is a great character because she's a real, flawed person that both men and woman can relate to. (Her and Merry were different genders but had the same people holding them back, which I might add was because the people were trying to protect them, not because they were 'racist' or 'sexist'). Writers nowadays need to learn why Eowyn was so great. She wasn't 'sticking it to the man'. She was merely a woman trying to do what was right despite her weaknesses and drawbacks. She was trying to protect the men she loved, even if it might get her killed. This new Galadrial was just trying to make herself look good and doing whatever she wanted. She doesn't want to protect anyone or anything. (She might say she's fighting for good or the world but her actions say otherwise.) She's not relatable, for men or women like myself, and I don't really care if she succeeds. I rooted for Eowyn and Arwen. I don't root for most female characters nowadays in film.

@infinityentity

Жыл бұрын

Is it really fanservice when no fan wanted it?

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

Morfydd Clark's performance is so opposite of that of Miranda Otto I had not made that connection. Eowyn's desire to play her part in the battle is one of dedication to her people and her uncle, she tried to protect him when he was under the spell of Wormtongue and tries to protect him at the battlefield. Karendriel is just permanent PMS and Narcissism combined, she has nothing of dedication to others but only to her personal peeves. By copy pasting the showrunners neither understood Galadriel as they understood Eowyn. When Eowyn in book or movie had been anything alike Karendriel, the Nazgul-king would have crushed her like a bug.

The reason the show is how it is, is because they’re from JJ Abrams “Bad Reboot”. Season Mystery Box=Who is Sauron? Most of your questions to do with plotting comes down to this, they wanted their Sauron Mystery Box reveal to be midways through the finale, so everything else has to accommodate that. That’s why the forging of the rings were crammed into the last episode, because if they began sooner it would give away their Mystery Box Sauron reveal, so they couldn’t. Gandalf can’t speak until Sauron is revealed or else it will give away he’s a red herring. Etc. It’s a horrible way to write something, and this is the quality of story that you end up with.

@partyboi8773

Жыл бұрын

The Mystery Box (two of them, no less) really is a sad core to build an entire story around. Can you imagine if a show like Breaking Bad had built an entire season around "Who is Heisenberg?" We knew who Heisenberg was; that wasn't the point. The point was watching his character development unfold and the plot unfold as a result of his actions and decisions, and their effects on the people around him. This could've been done with a strong portrayal of Sauron (=Annatar); even if viewers learned who he was early on, the important thing would be that the ELVES didn't know, and watching in increasing horror as they're deceived would be the perfect source of story tension, as Galadriel, the only one who mistrusts him, clashes with Celebrimbor, especially, who wants to learn the secrets he has to teach. The plot as laid out by Tolkien would've worked perfectly well, with competent writers.

It's easy to understand Saurons plan to propose to Galadriel in the ocean because what if she says "no", but she wouldn't possibly say "no" because of the implication...

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

I mean he would NEVER do anything. We know that. He knows that. But the implication is there, so she could never say no.

@RyanMan1337

Жыл бұрын

@@doomsdaybooty1072 exactly! She's not in any danger! But, there's the implication.

@mglegacy012

Жыл бұрын

This comment is better than the entire show 😂

@knightr0685

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanMan1337 I don't get it bro

@seanm241

Жыл бұрын

@@knightr0685 tuff

I find it ironic that, despite all their self-congratulatory notions that they “transformed” Galadriel into a “strong” character, this couldn’t be further from the case: in the lore she is the wisest of the Elves in Middle-earth and here she is wrathful and impulsive. She also lets herself be deceived by Sauron while Tolkien in the lore explicitly stated that she was one of the Elves that Sauron couldn’t deceive. It seems that they think that having an armour and a sword is enough to make any ‘femenine’ character “strong” now.

@nolster1

Жыл бұрын

And where did Galadriel get that female, elven armor (that she wore for about 4 episodes straight)? The Numenoreans said an elf hadn't visited in centuries but they just happened to have an extra set of armor laying around for her?

@no1guy825

Жыл бұрын

@@nolster1 it's armor, dude. is it Elven make? they made her armor, or had some from their own women. easy. done.

@nolster1

Жыл бұрын

@@no1guy825 It WAS elven armor. It even had the same star insignia on it she wore in ep 1. If it was just an extra set, why was she the only one wearing it? Or, if they made it special for her, how did they make an entire set of plate armor in just a few days?

@margarethmichelina5146

Жыл бұрын

What's more embarrasing is Galadriel is supposed to be Elrond's mother-in-law, but somehow she acts childish and immature while Elrond looks so done with her bullshits.

@ExistentialWill

Жыл бұрын

"Wise" and "wrathful and impulsive" are not mutually exclusive. This is trash psychology you're running on.

I hope Galadriel and Sauron hook up: it would be the most compelling love story since Kylo Ren and Rey.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

the writers dropped the ball on that, now I don't think it can happen anymore :( unless they make sauron return looking like galadriel's husband

@obsessivefangirl5055

Жыл бұрын

oh lord I laughed for a straight minute🤣.. I do hope you were being sarcastic!

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

Sauron will take the shape of Celeborn and when united with Karendriel she will say in stead "Oh my love I thought you were dead" she will greet him with : "Where the F*** have you been?" Answer : Out! Again!

@Ragnarswe

Жыл бұрын

hahahah :D

@spendingtimetogether8428

Жыл бұрын

…and that's when Sauron coined the term, cuz Galadriel was his "precious" during this time of courtship😅

I was 100% expecting that Orc brute to smash the Elf ranger’s head against the well. When he didn’t, I kinda stopped caring. It was plot armor 101.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

if the big orc had oberyn'd arrondir's head, that would have been thebest moment of the show. but the show went so hard with the plot armour that they didn't even kill the florist.

@korndud

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek you can't expect GoT level violence in Tolkien's world.

@JosephC555

Жыл бұрын

I felt like any close-up scene of someone in trouble went like this: fight -> oh no this looks like trouble->OH NO THEYRE GONNA DIE -> nope last second some character teleports behind them and kills the attacker xd. Like I get they don't wanna GOT it but like let them save themselves or make it believable other than some half-assed "you saved my life" moment

@holysecret2

Жыл бұрын

That orc had a sense for dramatic timing

@jaunbeltza7661

Жыл бұрын

@@korndud yeah, that's what they said. But there's certainly many gore and bloody scenes, along with problematic messages.

I can’t help thinking that the whole “Stranger” storyline arose out of a Jeff Bezos memo that said “Show must have Gandalf & hobbits. No excuses.” It’s why they feel so detached from everything else.

@RaphaelPalatin

Жыл бұрын

Gandalf, Hobbits and Isildur

I really hoped this show would be good but it turned out just the way most of us expected. Extremely disappointing.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know the show was happening until shortly before, and just went into ROP and hot D both with the same low expectations set by seasons 7 and 8 of GOT as a recent example of big budget fantasy TV sucking. hot D got my expectations for season 2 up almost as high as early GOT, whereas ROP managed to disappoint even my very low expectations, as it is much worse than the worst of GOT.

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

There were signs, We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"

@Chadius_Thundercock

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek that’s harsh, ROP is bad but not THAT bad

@Azzzoth

Жыл бұрын

Honestly way worse then I expected

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

@@Chadius_Thundercock no, it really is. I don't have high standards. I liked the shannara chronicles, it was better than ROP in almost every way. I thought the hobbit movies were alright, though quite forgettable. I had the same low expectations for GOT season 8 as I did for ROP, and I moderately enjoyed S8 whereas I was disappointed and bored by ROP. GOT at its worst arguably had similarly bad writing as ROP (hard to tell since it benefited from having established characters and plot from earlier seasons), but it still looked much better, sounded much better, and the characters and the acting were much better. the writing is the only thing that sucked in late GOT, and it sucked terribly, but with ROP, almost everything sucks that hard. ROP fucked up the writing (both story and characters), the casting, the acting, about half of the set design and some of the CGI, many of the costumes, the music, the fight scenes, and the physics. I am highly confused how they spent all that money, given the use of exclusively no-name and almost entirely bad actors and writers. the only top notch professionals in the production of ROP were the horses. those are some good horses, they did a good job. I also liked the orcs somewhat - I think I've seen people say that the extreme light sensitivity isn't tolkien-accurate, but I kinda like it.

Calling this "deeply flawed" is being very, very gentle.

@lexiferenczy9695

Жыл бұрын

True, it's such an abyss of a show

@throgoy

Жыл бұрын

Its not just shit, its an entire diarrhea

@Andriej69

Жыл бұрын

Uploader is a leftie, he won't dare call it shit

@magmafang

Жыл бұрын

@@throgoy Golden comment, wholly agreed.

@sayuriwickramasingha1560

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

We got a better backstory for the Rings of Power from the Shadow of Mordor games than we did from the actual show.

@FSousA7X

Жыл бұрын

For real, that game gave so much story about and through Celebrimbor

There were a lot of strong contenders for worst line in the season, but "the sea is always right" lost at the last minute to new challenger "I'm good!"

@GeorgeThoughts

Жыл бұрын

That bit about the elves coming to take our jobs was rough

@yigithan.kilinc

Жыл бұрын

"There is a tempest in me!"

@szabok1999

Жыл бұрын

@@yigithan.kilinc You say that when you mess up your stomach.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeThoughts they take er jerbs

@damatar

Жыл бұрын

lol, right? Wow, "I'm good!" Someone paid to write a billion dollar show wrote that, someone edited it, and it made it into the show. whoa. Also, Honest Trailers got it right: Call and Response, the show!

Saying it's flawed is the understatement of the month.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

sheesh, bald arya looks like jeff bezos

@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

Жыл бұрын

Well, when you hand a show to a couple of buttholes whose best work so far is uncredited writing on the Star trek reboot movie that killed that series, why would you expect anything good?

@jiku1106

Жыл бұрын

Understatement of the century you mean

@JoJo-vg8dz

Жыл бұрын

It's complete sh*t

I feared a lot of things about this show, but i never would have thought that the show would simply just be...boring

The worst written scene to me was when galadriel refused sauron proposal in the middle of the ocean without minding the IMPLICATIONS I mean seriously...

@jasonfenton8250

Жыл бұрын

@Productive Centaur It's from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Dennis (a creep) wants to buy a boat because if he propositions women while they're alone with him on the open water, they would be too scared to say no, because of the implication that something bad could happen to them. Dennis is explaining this idea to his friend Mac, who is horrified, but Dennis lacks all self awareness and doesn't get what the problem is.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonfenton8250 the sea is always right

@someone-pz4dg

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek nooo lol

You could almost do a 'Devoid of logic' video of this show. Theo magically disapearing after running away from a house two seconds ago chased by an orc. And we have to believe that the orc doesn't realize he is in the only spot he could posibly be in, the well. Not to mention Adar "tricking" everyone with the key for the volcano. Item that they don't check even when Galadriel was told that Adar can't escape with it.

@nolster1

Жыл бұрын

Why did they need that key so desperately anyway? I mean... if you had a thousand or so orc workers, equipped with construction tools to build... I don't know... a trench and some tunnels, for instance... wouldn't it be relatively easy for these orcs to tear down a small dam?

@Railriderchris

Жыл бұрын

@@nolster1 Exactly my thought! In hindsight, it made the entire plot about the magic-key-sword so ridiculous....

It's amazing to me how a BILLION dollars can't even buy cogent, effective writers. Seems to me that's the most important thing about a series. If your characters aren't likable; if they do things which make no sense; if plot holes are so glaring, then who gaf about vfx and set design?

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

It could be that no self respecting effective scriptwriter wanted to be connected with a set of inclusivity ticking ( mystery) boxes. Jennifer Salke CEO Amazon Studio's did set the tone when she cancelled the Conan serie because of "toxic masculinity" so I would not be surprised her demands chased a lot of competent writer out of that henhouse. With that billion dollar budget they could have afforded a Quentin Tarentino or a Oliver Stone or someone else of the list of best scriptwriters working today. Why did nobody of that group showed up?

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

nor did they manage to buy good actors. there's not a single actor involved that I've seen before, and most of them are notably bad, including galadriel and other main characters. even with bad direction, a good actress would not have given a performance this bad for galadriel.

@asafb1984

Жыл бұрын

The showrunners are delusional and think they are good writers. Tolkien deserved better than this show.

@jpshawful

Жыл бұрын

You’d be suprised…

@kim8dk

Жыл бұрын

First reason is that they don't need to. They can just blame any criticism on racism or sexism if ppl dont like it. Second reason is nepotism. Bad writers get hired due to nepotism and then they become the writers with the most on their resume, so they have writing credits and nepotism to help them get the jobs over anyone else.

It's funny to me how I went to see H.O.T.D completely sceptical thanks to the ending of G.O.T and with every single episode that went by I ended up loving it and expecting the following chapter. Well written characters, interesting world building, good usage of time skips all throughout. And a good introduction for powerful female characters. In contrast; I saw R.O.P excited from the get go, didn't see any behind the scenes footage, nor any news from it so I thought: "Okay, rings of power, so like the Silmarillion, possibly first age and second age in a show, that'll be good considering it's a series and not a movie". Oh boy... Disappointment after disappointment. Bad use of slow mo, the world building feels atrocious, every place looks pretty much the same, being in Numenor might as well be the same as being in Middle Earth. The elves look like normal people, they don't stand out. Am I the only one that thinks that putting prehistoric hobbits with a Scottish - Irish accent is kinda offensive? Like why? Idk... It's such a let down with every scene and dialogue.

@sailiealquadacil1284

Жыл бұрын

Oh, the Irish were certainly offended by this.

The arrogance of the show runners to think that somehow they had the abilitty to create plot lines or characters on par with the greatest fantasy writer in history is amazing. The resulting mess is the consquence of mistaking hubris for actual creativity.

@no1guy825

Жыл бұрын

your arrogance and hubris is off the charts if you take this THAT seriously that you level these holier than thou insults....at fucking showrunners. They did what they could....it's a fucking show. Who knows how these decisions are made or what the day to day process is in the offices. Move on.

@tuomaspirinen8018

Жыл бұрын

Fools rushing where angels fear to tread!

@Astropeleki

Жыл бұрын

They even dared to compare their Sauron to the Miltonic Satan. So not only they think they can go toe-to-toe with one of the greatest British writers in history, they think they can do it with *two* of them.

@FablestoneSeries

Жыл бұрын

This is the thing I keep saying. It is the highest form of Hollywood arrogance to assume ANY 2 writers with no large credits to their names could write a masterpiece in 6 weeks on par with a legendary author who spent years crafting his novels. OF COURSE it felt like a fan fiction. The ONLY possible way this wouldn't have felt like a fan fiction is if they took a team of the best authorities on LoTR and gave them a year to hammer out a story, but Hollywood is in such a hurry to make a return on their investment that they are willing to put out shit to do it.

The last episode seemed to me as basically a retcon for the season How is that everything that happened is a masterplan by Sauron? There were no signs of halbrand having any intention to get to Mordor and then to Eregion How is that mithril suddenly bestowes power instead of healing the elves? Why is Gil Galad suspicious? Wasn't it his plan initially? How is that this tiny bit of mithril is suddenly enough and it'll do? Why did they want so dwsperately to mine as much is possible? It makes the whole plot with Durin unnecessary I am confused

thank you so much for your reviews , I absolutely love them. I'm very excited for your review of the finale of HOTD. it is absolutely breathtaking. thank you again.

If you want to know how strong Galadriel is in this series, she survives an eruption of Mount Doom without a scratch, the only volcano hot enough to melt the One Ring. So Galadriel is literally more indestructible than the One Ring was.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

galadriel is asbestos confirmed

@-pront2457

Жыл бұрын

thats a really, really stupid nitpick to choose about considering how much many actual things there are to show how stupid the show is

@captainfighter7666

Жыл бұрын

She has the power of Morgoth inside of her.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

@@-pront2457 no, it isn't. surviving an orange glowing pyroclastic flow to the face is in fact the dumbest moment of the show.

@luckyducky7819

Жыл бұрын

@@-pront2457 Its a "nitpick" to say people can't survive volcanos to teh face? That's a nitpick now?

In the Jackson films, whenever the characters arrived at a location like Edoras and Minas Tirith, the movie would take a little time to introduce us to the place. The characters would ride their horses through the gates and along the streets, we'd see people and buildings passing by to give an impression of the environment, and characters would share a little expository dialogue about the location. It felt very real and lived-in. In Rings of Power, whenever we see a place like Numenor or Lindon, we just get a 5-second bird's-eye establishing shot that's 100% CGI and then immediately cut to an interior studio set where the characters just stand in one place and talk. It feels like Star Trek: TNG. That show always had establishing shots of a matte painting of a Klingon city or whatever whenever they went down to a planet, but I would expect more from RoP. Also, did anyone else notice that the city location in Numenor is never specifically named? It's all just "Numenor," no named cities like Armenolos from the lore. Isn't that strange?

@sailiealquadacil1284

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I can explain that last one. Armenelos is not located by the sea. They probably thought that, if they never named their capital city, they could get away with this without anyone noticing.

You should make a compilation of all the shots where we're supposed to feel something simply because of a swelling musical cue. Often paired with a slomo or sweeping shot.

_"that wouldn't make sense in episode 4 where they couldn't go out of the forest"_ And they apparently forgot they had bows... which they were using just two seconds earlier.

My biggest problem with this show is that it's predictable, boring, and I fell asleep in every episode I watched. The reason why Sauron convinces people so easily and overcomes every obstacle with ease is that cham is a primary skill of his. I think it would have been more interesting of the writers didn't hide that from the audience and instead used that as a reason to support everyone he decieves.

@IshtarNike

Жыл бұрын

Yes! We should have found out who Sauron was from the start and the show should have revolved around him seeking redemption and manipulating people so he can remain in place while creating the rings. Much more interesting and I think casual fans who didn't know the law would be blown away by finding out Sauron was "good" and beautiful at one point.

@grahamo5966

Жыл бұрын

Like John Milton in Devil's Advocate

I'm rooting for Sauron.

When I first saw Halbrand, I rubbed the only two brain cells I have together and figured it out

Kinda amazing how story and characters can become the biggest issue on a Tolkien based production.

So I'm gonna start this comment off with saying I'm someone who hasn't read the books but loves the Peter Jackson lotr trilogy to bits, the hobbit trilogy less so but have watched many MANY Lore videos so I kinda have a ruff understanding of the lore, but I have mad respect for Tolkien being the grandfather of mordern fantasy, just so you all know where I'm coming from. now I'm going to outline every issue in general I had with the show from the starting point in pretending it has nothing to do with tolkien as it's full of issues from Top to bottom - a huge portion of the show nothing happens its incredibly boring and the pacing is awful - the dialogue is full of ridiculous Psudo intellectual crap that's trying so hard to sound smart but is just so dump and hardly a episode goes by without a line that is just head scratching and makes me laugh - the casting generally across the board is just bad with the exception of the 2 durins and adar, other then those I don't buy any of the actors playing the characters - the story is crammed full of ridiculous leeps and bounds in logic that just do not make any sense what so ever such as the South landers leaving the tower to fight in the village or everything to do with the damm sword key or everyome surviving mount doom, the list is to big to even approach in this comment but it's ridiculous - the show has absolutely no sense of time or how long it takes things to happen - the show can't decide how susceptible orcs are to sunlight and it changes depending on the whim of the writers - the fight choreography is honestly really bad and downright unbelievably stupid in a lot of cases - the bloody harfoots are downright horrible little psychopathic morons that add nothing to the story and I was honestly rooting for them all to die - the props and costume somehow managed to look both over produced and cheep at the same time such as the numenorean armor looking plastic being the worst offender here - the introduction is honestly really mid and pales in comparison to the Jacksons trilogy opening in establishing the world - and I hate to haft to make some political ish points but here we go, this show has a massive insufferable girl boss problem with many of its female characters just being to most annoying self absorbed people ever and this is especially bad with galadriel which is a problem as she is the closest thing to a main character, while almost all the male characters are either timid skinny teenage boys or stupid corrupt idiots it's acutaly kinda blatant - another horrible political point is some of the ridiculous Mordern allagory this show puts in such as the whole elves coming "to take ur jurbs" and we all know how much tolkien loved allagory which speak off - even without Tolkiens lore this show is just a horribly written dumpster fire but add in all the acutal ridiculous and stupid lore breaks and changes, this is Tolkiens world in name only it has nothing off him and its bad fanfiction at best, and I get that they only had the rights to the appendices or whatever but my answer to that would be either dont make the show or get the full acutal rights and tell the story properly, this middle ground stance doesn't work - and not to mention the way the marketing team handed things and the way they and the cast have been treating the fans and critics of this show its honestly just a little bit disgusting - while yes This show is visually beautiful with a ok sound track when watching this show to have any kind of enjoyment I actively need to make myself feel stupid cuz you need to forgive so much ridiculous stuff, probably why I always watched with with a couple beers to dump myself down, it really feels like this was made for super SUPER Casual viewers that just want to see pretty pictures and not use thier brain in any measure And that leaves me with my final point, idk how you build from this horrible dumpster fire of a first season, even if you completely change the writing team you've started out on such a bad foot I'm not sure if you can course correct here, you can't build a good house of a shakey foundation like this, I honestly hope they don't make a second season I just want them to cancel the second season and just scrap this and hopefully in the future someone else can do tolkiens work the same justice Peter Jackson trilogy did.

@scoliosis9478

Жыл бұрын

only gripe i have with this is i think the Elendil actor deserves credit too, only character ive liked in the whole galadriel arc

Rings of power is atrocious.

Comparing to to House of the Dragon, I think that is a “better” (or more well received) show is because the writers & producers clearly mapped out everything they wanted to do; start to finish BEFORE they began filming. Heck they’ve actually admitted to having it all laid out already inc season 2 & 3. Obviously, they’ll make changes, add or remove things but it’s clear where their goal is and how they get there. Rings of Power lacks this completely! Watching the first and last episodes you cannot see the connection between them whatsoever. Ep 1 of HotD makes it clear this series will end with a conflict over rulership of the realm. Can you tell what role Galadriel is gonna play, without prior knowledge of the lore? Nope. They clearly wanted to create the spectacle without substance which is a shame.

@nolster1

Жыл бұрын

It's like RoP had an entire team of writers working on the show but they never communicated with each other and just slapped the scenes together. This would explain why characters constantly contradict themselves. Like when Galadriel stops Halbrand from killing Adar, "We need him alive!" Then she says she will keep him alive until she's killed all the orcs... then two seconds later is trying to kill him until Halbrand stops her.

@Zizou19989

Жыл бұрын

Comparing this show to house of the dragon is a major insult to house of the dragon

@Zaneswe

Жыл бұрын

@@nolster1 100%! Literally, nothing the characters do makes sense to their characterisation. It’s genuinely lazy work by the writers. Now that you say it, it does look like the team didn’t communicate and just slapped scenes together without consideration for anything other than “looks good”. No thought towards how characters would behave based upon their pre-existing characterisation, nor the story and never mind the lore lol.

@Zaneswe

Жыл бұрын

@@Zizou19989 True! I was only trying to highlight why HotD is a "better" show (imo) from every aspect.

@Zizou19989

Жыл бұрын

@@Zaneswe I got it no worries 👍 just adding onto the statement

My friend asked me whats the story of the rings of power and i told him i don't know what the f*** happened in this show

Is it weird that the thing that disconnected me that most about this series was the fact that elves have short hair? Like throughout the entire Hobbit and Lord of The Rings franchise the elves have silky long beautiful hair, like even the male elves have them and now some of them don't. Like it totally broke me, I cannot see these characters as being elves.

@fgf4973

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the short hair made me think of Star Trek Vulcans

@Utaeru

Жыл бұрын

"It totally broke me" What a drama queen. The thing about elves is their beauty that is beyond human, the long hair were just a trademark of the PJ movies and were a bit limiting in regards to the actors that would pull off the look imo.

@kstina9563

Жыл бұрын

@@Utaeru i want an example of an actor who could not pull off long hair.

@Utaeru

Жыл бұрын

@@kstina9563 Elrond

@kstina9563

Жыл бұрын

@@Utaeru I disagree haha someone photoshopped long hair on young elrond and I think he looks great. And older elrond is ofc fire with long hair.

"The LOTR franchise was given to lesser men."

you are head on. saying the battle for "random cottage in the literal asscrack of morder" was underwhelming is an understatement. a small raid party of 3 ships sail around half the world to have a skirmish over some small village in the southlands? about as epic as birkenstock sandals.

I'm really glad I didn't get my hopes up for the show. Besides Elrond and Durin the only thing that was interesting to me was Adar. His point of view in giving the orcs some character was fascinating and I hope they'll do more with it in the next season. But instead of hyping for the next season I will hype the next season of House of the Dragon and start to read the Silmarillion.

@IshtarNike

Жыл бұрын

The Silmarillion is really good in my opinion. Gets a bad rap but if you're into Tolkien and the movies then it gives so much back story to all the names and allusions in Rings that it's just wonderful to read.

@emperornero2902

Жыл бұрын

I never wasted my time watching this dumpster fire, but in my opinion, trying to make orcs into an oppressed, misunderstood minority must be the greatest affront to the lore of all.

@user-ux2vc5sk5u

Жыл бұрын

Adar is the most faithful to the lore elf. He is brave, compassionate, good leader, wise, gentle and caring with his subjects. Taking his dark hair, fair look and interest in philology in consideration, I would assume he is noldo.

@wrantheim6777

Жыл бұрын

@@emperornero2902 Thats not exactly was Adar is trying to say. He rather sees Orcs as his kind and wants to give them a home. It's not about what orcs are in general but what they are to Adar. It's more on a personal level. That makes the character (in theory) very interesting but I am afraid the show won't do anything interesting with him.

As a person who hasn’t watched the show, is not too deep into Tolkien lore, but has looked for video reviews, I must thank you for not directing 40% of the video to black elves and 30% to differences between the original lore and the show itself. ❤

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

I have no problem with woke hollywood, and haven't read tolkien (I tried and hated it). ROP is trash as a TV show all on its own. it's the most expensive show ever, but it has the quality of a mid-tier low budget show. the shannara chronicles is better than ROP in almost every way. I think ROP can be a somewhat enjoyable watch, though boring, but you have to set your expectations on the floor and forget entirely that it's a big budget production. it's not the worst show ever, but it is a contender for the biggest failure of a fantasy TV show.

@MollyFC

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind people being upset with it not having much attachment to the lore, but yeah the people whining about women and black people is cringy at best. Glad he doesn't include any of that

@bobbiecat8000

Жыл бұрын

​@@MollyFC some of the people whining about black elves kinda forgot that being a racist is bad. I'm like bro, try being more subtle next time.

@HurrpyDurrDerp

Жыл бұрын

But black elves are still a problem.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

@@MollyFC well, the argument against black dwarves is pretty good, being that dwarves live underground so they certainly don't need highly UV-protective skin (and real world humans evolve pale skin even with much less extreme lack of light, in order to produce more vitamin D with the little light they get). it's also dumb that they made various relatively isolated communities multiracial instead of focusing their different storylines on different communities with visually distinct racial identities. I've seen tolkien nerds say that there are canonically dark-skinned people in that world, like the easterlings that ally with sauron in LOTR. the show could have just included some of those, instead of adding black and brown people to every single community and species.

I think the main problem is a pure issue of greed affecting timing. With the original films, they had literal YEARS and no real pressure to perform well. Solely through Peter Jackson and Co's hard work and attention to detail---- all over the course of many years instead of mere months---- did we get the amazing films that so many of us know and love. And of course, the films created a much larger audience for Tolkien, and THAT is what truly increased the book's popularity. However, with something like The Hobbit or RoP, the studio execs knew that they could cash in on our noatalgia and the intertextuality of LotR. They thought we wouldnt notice plots holes, filler, deus ex machinas, etc. because we would be so dazzled by the 'Lord of the Ring-ness!!!!' of it all. It also doesnt help that Peter Jackson, Phillipa Boyens and Fran Walsh were all true Tolkien fans while making the original films, and that love certainly shone through. With this though, it just felt like a cash grab with some LotR refs thrown in for good measure. Im so sorry to say that all of this seems like such a common trait with a lot of films and big tv these days: studio goals seems to revolve around cashing in on the noteriety of the source material instead of actually investing both time and money into development and all around art form. It does however make me happy that audiences are waking up to this and are making their displeasure known..... hopefully, itt marks a return to ACTUAL cinematic art form!

Your rundowns, like this one, just proves why this channel has become my favourite. You mention and focus on the elements that actually matter to a meaningful viewing experience. Thank you!

Durin and Elrond were truly my favourite part of the show. It pissed me off that we didn't get more of this stuff.

It's painful to watch

Already waiting on your thoughts on House of the dragon E10 and the overal season. I'm so happy about how it turned out!

So...Much...Filler.... You could easily turn RoP into a single movie and not lose anything of value. It'd still be a bad movie. But at least then it'd be 2 and a half hours of bad instead of 8 hours of bad.

I'm honestly glad this isn't a GoT style show. With HotD existing it's nice not to worry about a character dying and just enjoy a "safe" fantasy show. Also, I loved the Harfoots.

I think you were really fair to the show and i would probably myself give it a 4/10 as a whole. I see a lot of people saying its the worst show ever and complete trash aka 1/10 which is just not true. Simply based on the production value its not that bad. But something you failed to mention was how bad the acting was, weirdly enough a lot of the supporting cast that barely are on screen are played by experienced and good actors. While 2 of our main leads Galadriel and Arondir are played by young actors who are not doing a good job. You can argue that it's just because the writing is so bad, but i have seen great actors do a lot with a shitty script.

@ULTIMAFAX

Жыл бұрын

If you ate literal shit covered in chocolate, would you say, "It wasn't that bad; it was covered in chocolate"?

@dimo9463

Жыл бұрын

@@ULTIMAFAX I do get what you mean, but i think that's mostly down to tastes. And i do personally hate the show, however a lot of people calling it: ''the worst show ever made'' are not being subjective, as i mentioned just on production values alone the show has some merit.

@knightr0685

Жыл бұрын

@@dimo9463 Yeah, there are definitely worse shows, but it's still terrible.

@drrickmarshall1191

Жыл бұрын

@@ULTIMAFAX Shit covered in chocolate is still more bearable than just shit, but no way you can justify a price tag like that.

@andrewfisher3566

Жыл бұрын

its probably the worst show ive ever seen not joking. nonsensical plot, horrid acting, fake looking sets, local theater level hair and makeup, corny score, i mean every single element is atrocious.

It sucks that they think just bc it’s set in middle earth and has recognizable names that they could lazily write this. Makes me so mad

@no1guy825

Жыл бұрын

right...that's what they thought. show about LOTR....mustn't mention ANY names at all to be truly creative, got it.

I just don’t understand how the most expensive show ever made could have some of the worst acting, casting and writing ever.

Honestly sad to hear that, one of my favorite parts of the history of Middle Earth is Sauron's deception and the fall of Numenor. It sounds like they rushed a lot of things that would have been better if done more slowly and with real deliberation. Such a shame. I guess I'll have to keep waiting for a production that does the story justice.

Finally! I've been waiting for supercut to tackle this show since it came out

I took a pause for 3 weeks between the fourth and fifth episode , and when i tried to watch episode 5 i completed forgot who the characters are what they're motives and plotlines about That's how i knew this did absolutely nothing to captivate me

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

Take heart and Join us for our counter ROP series. Mae G'ovannen! Now the evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Take heart for our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of Tolkien's Canon displayed out of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"

@Unlimited469

Жыл бұрын

@@NovRen19 This is deranged

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

@@Unlimited469 nay good sir it actually combines scholarship and satire, what is deranged is a corporate machine Theyocracy repurposing and deconstructing the words of Professor Tolkien by design, creating schism in Tolkien-verse and doing it with hubris...and if dont like that we have an original series; Dor Vahdor Lost Legends and Sagas of Preflood Earth ull find interesting...spend 32 min watching Exsurge Tolkien, vice 8 hours of ROP heresy.

Great vid! Thank you for your reviews on this and HotD, love the channel

"Midgets with rocks" F L M A O. Bravo, my dude, bravo!

If they just made the show about Elrond, Durin and making the rings of power, it would feel so much more enjoyable imo. Imagine how much more character development those two could have had if they were given this whole season.

@dustywaffles1297

Жыл бұрын

​@@BFNH459 We also have to remember that this is a prologue season. Story-lines that may have felt boring or useless, may bear fruit later on down the road. The main issue is, if we aren't given enough of a reason to care from the get go, like he mentioned in his video, the show will feel like a chore to get through. It's tough to judge the quality of the Dwarven storyline when it wasn't given a proper amount of time to flourish and actually tell its story, which is why I say it would be nice to see what that story-line would be like if given the proper time and space to develop. Elrond and Durin have the best chemistry in the show and I feel like there is enough there to really focus on that story and make it compelling.

@dustywaffles1297

Жыл бұрын

@@BFNH459 Which again is why I just want to see what would happen if we had the story revolve around them and the forging of the rings. None of the other storylines/characters really interested me that much and just felt fairly generic, bland and heavily under developed. With the insane amount of money that Amazon has dumped into this show, you'd hope that not all of it went to the visuals and that a healthy amount was given to the actual story construction and writing.

Harfoots were so unlikeable and I was bored. I fell in love immediately with the Hobbits made me want to live amongst them first watch.

I thought the writers only had access to the notes and not the actual source material in the books (Silmarillion etc) and this really really restricted them. So they had to make a bunch of crap up. Which isn't to say they couldn't have done a better job with the stuff they had to fill in but still. They were severely limited thanks to the Tolken Estate

@drrickmarshall1191

Жыл бұрын

They had the rights to the appendices of the LotR, that's it. I don't think people would've minded taking liberties to fit in a decent story, the problem is it wasn't decent, it was downright infantile.

@szabok1999

Жыл бұрын

I mean do you see what they do with the material they get their hands on? It's no wonder the estste protects what it can.

I just got to say one thing. I might be the only one, but... The show review, it's saddening and I am disappointed. But the background music....Rohan theme....gods I felt very nostalgic of the glory of the Rohirrim. Theoden, Helm’s Deep, Pellennor Fields...the music...reminds of the greatest film trilogy ever made....

Durin crying was the only thing that made me feel anything because I would cry to know that I will never see my best friend

It's really amazing. In a great series (Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, The Queen's Gambit, pre-Season 6 Game of Thrones, etc.), the more you watch and think about it, the better it becomes; new depths and connections become clear. With this series, the more you think about it, the dumber it becomes. As just one point out of dozens, Galadriel's sole motivation for, what, 1000 years and more has been to hunt Sauron and seek vengeance for her brother. It's her entire character, her only motivation. Then she discovers that Halbrand is Sauron (because for no reason whatsoever he just... tells her). So does she kill him on the spot? No. Does she, after he escapes, gather a force of the mightiest elves to pursue him? No. Does she pursue him herself, alone? No. Does she even *mention* it to anyone? No. The writers don't have even a rudimentary understanding of how to write characters and their motivations. It's bad enough that Galadriel isn't remotely consistent with Tolkien's Galadriel, but she's not even remotely consistent with HERSELF within the series!

"The Rings of Power" "Resident Evil" "She-Hulk" all suffer from incompetent writing what a trend!

This was like GOT season5-8, looks and sounds good, but story and dialogue was terrible. it was an interesting show as itself but once you remember this shite was supposed to be from JRRT`s work, then you know how bad it is.

@Darkstar_Dayne

Жыл бұрын

Even Season 8 was better than this cancer

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

my expectations for this show were set very low by seasons 7 and 8 of GOT, and I was still disappointed big time. ROP is far worse than the worst of GOT.

agree very much with a lot of this. But its the same old story we see time and time again. Studios spending so much money on VFX, Actors, Costumes, Set design, etc. and leave the relegate the most important aspect:- The script, to a clumsy after-thought. When are they going to learn?

0:06 production design are steller Yea, especially those plastic Numenorian armors and jackets with printed armor pattern on it.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

or how they were too lazy to make more costumes, so they made galadriel and the numenorians wear armour at sea even though that's a drowning hazard and the orcs have no navy.

Amazon, you can’t really expect to show people a crazy expensive show with no real budget going into the writing. Early seasons of Game of Thrones prove you don’t need insane CGI or set pieces if the writing is great

@budakbaongsiah

Жыл бұрын

The CG of HotD this season is BAD, but that doesn't impact the enjoyment I got from it.

@Glurfl

Жыл бұрын

@@budakbaongsiah I didn’t find anything wrong with it but at least they used their budget properly. GRRM writes insane stuff that’s almost impossible to produce in TV lol

I could not agree more with you. This was everything I also felt deeply let down by. Thanks for your breakdown! Very hopeful it will improve in season 2, but not confident it will.

Iirc season 2 of this show has been in production since before season 1 ended, so all the criticisms wont get to writers/directors in time. We are due for more of the same terrible writing

Im so disappointed its lacklustre, especially since I was so excited and willing to give it a chance when many fans weren't.

Sauron probably transformed into a bat, that's how he got ot Mordor so quickly

A lot of the diversions from the source material comes from their lack of rights to the Silmarillion. They were going off of the appendices so they had to make a lot of changes. Still, pretty subpar writing and could have been a lot better in complexity and character building.

@msanjelica

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I've read better fan fic. Had they narrowed the scope, and eliminated the psycho proto-hobbits, they could have "House of the Dragon"ed their way into a better show. You know - if they had better writers.

@campbellsmith403

Жыл бұрын

@@msanjelica Oh yeah it was awful writing. You'd think them spending $1 billion they would invest in writers who could write dialogue or likeable characters

7:24 The other thing that doesn't make sense is... where and when is this supposed to be? It's got to be either just before sunset, which would make sense geographically (they're heading east through the gap in the mountains where Minas Ithil will be later, so we can see the sun setting in the west), but doesn't make sense to be cutting from the village fight, which is in pitch darkness, which they then cut back to. It makes less sense than the Chewbacca defense.

Yup think this went over the main problems with the show quite well. Maybe something to add, or rather highlight, would the the fact that we have only the vaguest idea of what most of the characters’ motivations and allegiances are, particularly the Numenorians. What does Miriel want? Probably to save Numenor from destruction, but how do her actions in the show match that? First she hates the elves and tells Elendil to watch Galadriel, then she likes them and decides to even go herself to Middle Earth - why? To fight Sauron, who has never, as far as we know in the world of the show, been a threat to Numenor. The same is true of Elendil, his daughter, the son of Pharazon - even the better developed characters like Durin. It’s just a mess all around.

Very interesting analysis and greatly appreciate that you're making clear critical points about the writing failures, and not just falling into an angry rant. Aside from a lot of bad filler scenes with dull characters, these are the issues that bothered me most: 1. Galadriel is obnoxious and lacks empathy. A female character suffering toxic masculinity is no more appealing than a male character with the same traits. 2. Galadriel is also dense, which is strange for a semi-immortal elf who has lived centuries and is supposedly incredibly wise. When viewers are way, way ahead of the transcendent “Commander of the Northern Armies” in figuring out who Sauron is .... yikes! 3. Jumping off the ship in the middle of the ocean instead of entering Valinor might have worked if there was some foreshadowing that Galadriel made that crazy decision because she had fallen under a spell from Sauron. This would not need to reveal Halbrand as Sauron. The idea that she made that foolhardy decision on her own - at the last moment - in order to defend Middle Earth seems ludicrous. 4. Are we really supposed to believe that Sauron picking her up on a life raft is just a coincidence? If there was some indication in the story that Sauron arranged the encounter, it would make sense. Otherwise, it’s embarrassing and incompetent storytelling. But if Galadriel only makes her decision to jump into the ocean at the last moment, how would Sauron know how and where to scoop her up? And the Numenor ship picking them up by chance, yet again, makes it all even more absurd. 5. The Rube Goldberg volcano machine is not even plausible in a Coyote and Roadrunner cartoon. 6. No one considered that Halbrand might NOT be the true heir to the the Southlands before it was far too late? 6. Surviving a volcanic pyroclastic blast was epic and cartoonish. Yes, it’s fantasy but still needs verisimilitude to work as fiction. And Galadriel could have made more of an effort to assist survivors to establish her decency. Again, she seems to lack empathy in multiple scenes. 7. When Galadriel finally figures out Halbrand is Sauron … her failure to warn the other elves is more than a little mystifying. 🤔

_"just using this moment to destroy them"_ She tells them to stab the orcs with the pointy end... and then immediately shows them how easy it is to avoid this attack. And is Numenor so short of soldiers they need to send bumbling rookies into battle?

The Elf's are meant to be thousands of years old, experienced in warfare and smart and extremely versatile and skilled and yet the Orc's capture these supreme creatures and turn them in to slaves and then slaughter them in such an easy way it is laughable

I agree with everything in this video. You've managed to put Into words exactly how I feel. Much like the Star Wars sequels the whole show just screams missed/wasted potential and now I'm left feeling disappointed all over again. Also that Numenorean armour is awful. Just looks like cheap plastic. Why didn't they go with any of the fan/concept art or even just the armour from Fellowship's Last Alliance scene? I hope they change it next season.

great video as always! any chance you can do a video on game of thrones deleted scenes? if it was a good/bad idea to remove them.

I am glad to finally see some valid criticism instead of hate brigading like I feel other channels such as Nerdotic seem to do and just memeing it up. Being a big Tolkien fan I still enjoyed the show, that may be because I went in with very low expectations. I was like, I hope it is better than the percy jackson films and avatar the last airbender movie level. So that is why I think I still found it enjoyable enough but I think they can still turn it around and get better. I agree the main issues with it are the pacing and story telling for sure but they have good moments in there. Thank you for your breakdown and even though I think getting into this kind of analytical mindset we can get a bit nitpicky it is valid. One example is my wife and my family loved the Harfoots story and wanted more of it. Where I like you saw it as filler. So I guess it might depend on the person.

When KZread is too sensitive so you go with "Deeply flawed." Meanwhile on the inside: Rings of power is ******* ********* ******* ********* .

I am amazed taht even though you say you're just a casual fan, you were able to find so many flaws with this show. Imagine how painful it must be for the ones who care deeply about Tolkien's lore. Thank you for the video!

"the sea is always right" After the last season of GOT i thought i had seen the most stupid line ever said on TV with "sHes mY qUeEeN" but boy i was wrong.

@msanjelica

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but "keep your Queen warm" trumps all the "she's my Queen" and "I don't want it". But yes, "the sea is always right" was just...🙄

Honestly, Hallbrand comes across as someone you could share a couple of pints with.

Saying Rings of Power is deeply flawed is like saying the pits of Hell are warm.

It's a great review, probably first aiming to be objective and thoughtfull criticism. I was disapoinnted about the show, but the prejudition towards it was huge and all the people claiming to know what Tolkien would like and dislike were simply annoying. That makes this video even better to me. And now i understant better why I didn't like Numenor so much.

7:03 Orcs are affected by sunlight but not by the light of a million flaming torches xD

It's clear they were so proud of their Sauron twist that they built the whole plot around it. The twist itself would be okay in my opinion if other interesting things happened as well.

This Galadriel actress would be a great old Ciri from the Witcher series….but we prob never gonna get that.

I love ur vids... For the HOTD i sometimes havent even watched the newest ep and still watch ur vids regardless

Did anyone else feel that Arondir was just a dollar store version of Greyworm from GoT?

The point of the Numenoreans reaching the village so quickly AND directly is the one of the only major grievances I have with the show. Otherwise I thought it was totally fine. It is a lot of setup for season two it seems. It's not perfect, but damn people are hating on this show so much.

Thank you for being honest. You can tell who has been paid to review this positively on KZread

Another thing: in the Numenorian Rohirrim charge, when the sun was rising behind them, keep in mind that they're coming from the West....

A bit off topic but you should make a review of Andor its an amazing star wars series and I'd love to see a review of it from you

I think the only good thing about Harfoots is that it explain the love and hope that Gandalf had for halflings and hobbits, cuz harfoots helped him to be good. Of course this is IF the stranger is gandalf.

@TeodorAngelov

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It's not a good thing for me as it didn't need explaining

@anastasiskelesidis6113

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Y'all confuse yourselves...I didn't say we needed it. I said it's the only logical things about harfoots being in the series, don't tip

i loved the elrond and durin parts, maybe it's just that i love anything dwarf related but getting to see Khazad-dum in it's full glory and getting to see the things that made me love LOTR was amazing. while it was really cut short and half baked the dwarf mithril storyline was my favourite one, i wish they gave more time to that plot line because they did it really well

Maybe the village is actually between the Orc Camp and the Tower, so Arondir had to pass through the village on his way, and that's how he ran into Theo. The geography on this show is as murky as time.

Tis season was so disappointing. I was really expecting 3 main storylines. I was so hoping for a political thriller on the side of Eregion with Sauron slowly worming his way into the smith halls and playing on Celebrimbor's thirst for achievement equal to what Feanor achieved. For Numenor, a storyline showing the evolution of their relationship with the elves and the valar, gratitude > indiference > resentment > lashing out > destruction. And to give more of an adventure feel beside the political storylines, the fight of influence in the south and the east between a rising sauron faction then empire and the freewilled who oppose him. Lots of room for original characters, Alatar and Pallando (which Tolkien in later notes said arrived in the second age to oppose the rise of Sauron), whole nations of arabic or african heritage. So much potential squandered for cheap mysteries and action without stakes.

Is season two already recorded? Or do they have time to receive some feedback?

Orcs didn't ever burn under sunlight, the Trolls did.

@szabok1999

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No. The trolls turn to stone. The sunlight does hurt the orcs. Not burn them like vampires, but it is painful for them and they are slower.

@NagashGames

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@@szabok1999 well, you're right abput the trolls my bad; but in relation to the orcs, why did the orcs fight normally under sunlight in LotR and Hobbit?

Series starts with elves bullying Galadriel in Valinor and his brother gives worst written advice. Storytelling at its finest.