I love that Rowan is just permanently "The Vintner" for Bryan 😂

@haloichigo1

8 күн бұрын

Thank you! I was always wondering who he meant by the Vintner.

@SgtCrumpet

6 күн бұрын

Where does the origins for Bryan calling Rowan, "The Vintner" come from, exactly?

@jackakimbo5718

6 күн бұрын

@@SgtCrumpet Off the top of my head: I can't remember the exact promo and what he said, but ages ago when Rowan was getting a brief solo push outside of the Wyatt family, he cut some promo where he in some context brought up wine and Bryan just found it really amusing that this swamp hillbilly cultist is now bringing up wine and being all sophisticated so he started calling him The Vintner

This show almost felt like a RAW after Wrestlemania. Absolutely brilliant

@BarryAllenBG

8 күн бұрын

Hell yeah man and last week people asked is this gonna work

@mikedavis5288

8 күн бұрын

@@BarryAllenBGnormal ppl knew it would be over with the crowd and they would look good, it’s literally only people obsessed with “graps” and who don’t like fun that were shitting on it from the jump

@ljmagician

8 күн бұрын

Better than Raw after mania

@rell0715

8 күн бұрын

How?

@mr.arabmoney9677

8 күн бұрын

Except we had more commercials. 20 from my count lol

Dave’s deadpan delivery of they wouldn’t murder Hunter LMAO

@TMPS93

8 күн бұрын

"maybe he was in the bathroom" Hunter missing the whole thing because he was taking a shit 🤣

@OpticZodiac15

8 күн бұрын

HHH can’t be murdered lmao Uncle Dave ! 💚🤯

@josephcooke4678

8 күн бұрын

Yeah I heard the fish in catering was bad yesterday​@@TMPS93

@mr.fantastic1854

8 күн бұрын

The (bookers) pen is mightier than the sword.

@TheHardys01

8 күн бұрын

​@@mr.fantastic1854That doesn't work for The Game brother..

"And they murdered everybody"😂😂 ok Dave.

@keepitwolfson

8 күн бұрын

That was bryan

@jessebaker2769

8 күн бұрын

Just pay Undertaker to do some vignettes with Otis where they travel to the underworld to resurrect everyone.

@MekanikKommandoh88

8 күн бұрын

Well it’s sure what it looked like.

@alternative7586

8 күн бұрын

They had a guy propped up against the wall with blood trailing. Chad Gable was literally shown dead!

@dsadams17

8 күн бұрын

@@jessebaker2769 Nothing says "rooted in reality" like resurrection and zombie wizards.

What an awesome RAW! That one continuous shot was brilliant.

Also, waiting for the reveal that Chad Gable wasn't attacked by the Wyatt etcs, he just snuck in there with some fake blood and played possum to get sympathy from Otis and crew to rejoin Gable

@jessebaker2769

8 күн бұрын

More like Gable is going to join Bo's crew since it makes more sense of him being corrupted by Bo/Howdy as to explain away his heel turn and have Otis get involve in the feud with Howdy's crew

@hobbesthegoblin

8 күн бұрын

@@jessebaker2769 Nah, there's too many Wyatt stable members already. Better to have Gable try and rally Otis and Akira to go against them, then turn on them again. If they even mention Gable being bloodied by the Wyatts, they might just ignore it.

@Gwanzan3325

8 күн бұрын

Chad is going to recruit the Creeds, he doesn't need Otis and crew.

@JT-fz2xy

8 күн бұрын

That mischievous rambling rabbit was in the academy's locker room

@user-jk2mo2tx4p

8 күн бұрын

@@hobbesthegoblinthen what’s was everything for that makes no sense no way in hell should gable be going back to Otis or vise verse

The way I seen it is the people in the production truck laid out didn't look like managers, they looked like they were all wrestlers. I think, according to Kayfabe, they wanted us to believe the production team tried to quickly get away, the wrestlers tried to defend the production truck/stop them from getting out to the crowd, and yea thats why triple h got away and not only that, Drew leaving happened a lot earlier on in the night

@MisterrrrrrParadise

8 күн бұрын

Keeeeeeep reeeeeaaaaching

@doozey1

8 күн бұрын

@@MisterrrrrrParadise how do you explain it

@willbontrager6209

4 күн бұрын

You marks with no imagination wouldn't get it anyway. Stick to clotheslines😂

@devilkid292

Күн бұрын

Jesus, is this what goes on in people's heads? This isn't supposed to be a tv show that ends on cliff hangers with people DEAD. None of it's going to be explained either, no footage, nothing. Their moving on to pushing them and w.e wrestlers we saw are gonna have spooky people fucking with their match

@willbontrager6209

Күн бұрын

@devilkid292 oh no Scoob! Spooky people. And yes, mark, it's a TV show and it needs cliffhangers

Loved the Wyatt 6 debut and the tributes to Bray Wyaat and Luke Harper. Bo Dallas has to work extra hard to make this angle work, though. I am rooting hard for him hard. Hope he can continue Bray's legacy.

@john6843

7 күн бұрын

I think it's a win because if it doesn't work long-term then they book the characters strong then they all move on as normal! But like Finn Balors demon they can bring back uncle howdy one every 2 years or so against the right opponents. 🤷

@1Smooth1

7 күн бұрын

I was hoping to see Howdy re-created a little differently using the final Fiend costume which Bray never got a chance to wear. But either way this is good. I would have used abandon in place of Nicky Cross based on Abadon living that gimmick for real. The more real they can make it, the better and more likely it gets over

They weren’t murdered. They are going to say that they were all beat up in bloodied.

I hope they at least got Bruce Pritchard

@jonmeans2637

7 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

For Bray Wyatt’s legacy I’m going to give this a chance the return was great the angle was great as well but the concerns moving forward are very valid.

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

It worked for Undertaker

@KenshinRell

8 күн бұрын

@@jaysgamingcorner8539 Homie the Undertaker is 1 of 1 not to be recreated or duplicated

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

@@KenshinRell WWE made it work twice with Taker and Kane, why wouldn't they go back to the supernatural gimmicks again?

@MisterrrrrrParadise

8 күн бұрын

It's going to be awful, let's not pretend that brays runs were ever good after the initial buzz.

@inuenndo_

8 күн бұрын

@@MisterrrrrrParadiseVince is gone, give it time

Say what you will but since Vince and Dunn have left the booking is different and the production is noticeably different too.

@haloichigo1

8 күн бұрын

Definitely. It is not perfect but miles better. I never get how people think it is the same.

@Daniel-ml6tl

7 күн бұрын

Waaay better there killing it in sales

1:08 if they go with HHH was in the bathroom, I will find this acceptable lol

0:56 LMFAO!!! Bryan: "When these guys murdered everybody, everybody in Gorilla was Murdered" Dave: "Except for Hunter" Bryan: "How do YOU know that?" Dave: "Cause their not gonna Murder him" Bryan: "Well, that Ridiculous. Where was the Guy?" Dave: "Maybe he was in the Bathroom. IDK" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

@M.S.Fitness

7 күн бұрын

World class wrestling journalism right there😂

@thom11780

7 күн бұрын

@@M.S.Fitness Exactly!! 😂😂😂

Nikki looks awesome!

I think Drew quitting would have been a lot cooler if they hadn't announced his re-signing so loudly.

@quesoblanco444

8 күн бұрын

Exactly what I thought after I saw the headline, "Drew quits wwe!".

@GrayRedRoom

8 күн бұрын

Better than anything AEW has going.

@clusterchuck7346

8 күн бұрын

Yeah I ended up kind of chuckling when Drew said he quit because of the resigning

@crappyposts3477

8 күн бұрын

I think this Drew said this on Monday to make Punk believe that he's not going to be in Chicago just for Drew to show up and beat the ever living piss out of him

@brunorubio

8 күн бұрын

@@GrayRedRoomWhat other shows on TV do you want to compare this to that aren’t WWE and have nothing to do with it? WOW, Grey’s Anatomy, Real Housewives of Miami

They murdered Chad Gable !

Did Dave really mention the “no sell thing”?

@leeedwards9068

8 күн бұрын

Yup…Moxley must have re-joined WWE…

@windup13ird60

8 күн бұрын

I figured that the same people who yell at Rey Fenix for doing a flip after taking some leg damage are going to be fine with Chad Gable getting shot in the head and showing up yo work fine the next week.

@brunorubio

8 күн бұрын

Can’t wait for the King of the Mountain Dew rematch

@leeedwards9068

8 күн бұрын

@@brunorubiois that your favourite drink while picking and eating your acne scabs?? Do you name them first?? ‘This one is tiny…I will call it Marko Stunt. This one looks a bit infected…I will name it ‘Mox’ This one looks like it still has powdered donut residue on it from when I was eating last night…this one will be tiny cuckhan’

@kidneystonermusic

8 күн бұрын

Orange Cassidy goes through a wood chipper and kicks out at 2 = *****.

Dave actually got something spot on about HHH and a press order not to show him in a "compromised position" in the games.

@Linklex7

8 күн бұрын

I didn’t know about this. What was this rule he had about video games?

@AlwaysBetOnDouk

8 күн бұрын

@@Linklex7 it was just that he couldn't be shown looking weak/selling in any of the promotional material, basically if they wanted to use Triple H in the game's advertisements/trailers it had to be images/video of him looking badass and not getting his ass beat

The show was great👍

That was one bada** ending too a wrestling show

@juniorkhomari1850

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely fantastic

@ricosuave7053

8 күн бұрын

Very cinematic lol

Triple H went to get his coffee during the cutscene

@anonymousnobody326

8 күн бұрын

Pretty easy to tell yourself he was off dealing with Drew...

If anything the big feud would be when they unmask Lumis, have him and Rowan vs. Gargano and Ciampa. At least there would be some history with Gargano and Lumis

I toldd you it s gonna be amazing 😊 I toldd youuu 😊 bolieve

"Maybe he was in the bathroom idk" 😂

@six6thdisciple

8 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@haloichigo1

8 күн бұрын

They should film that as a segment for X that Hunter comes.baxk from the bathroom just to see everyone dead and throw his hands in the air.

wyatt 6... book it like nWo. promos, matches, run-ins. DQ... can do that for maybe a year before it fizzles out

Jay does the entrance because bray's wife said it was ok, I don't think they are basing a feud round that lol

@benjaminlogan8946

8 күн бұрын

Why not? In terms of a story it's perfect. Jey stole Brays lights...instant reason for the 6 to target him.

@PMKru

6 күн бұрын

@@benjaminlogan8946He Didn’t Steal Anything The France Crowd Made It A Thing. Be Mad At Them Thats Not On Jey He Didn’t Ask For The Lights

@Cyrribrae

5 күн бұрын

​@@benjaminlogan8946I personally hope not. It would be a petty thing to have the group represent. "We now gatekeep the memory of Bray and no one may honor or remind you of him but us". That would be terrible on so many levels.

As much as I want to appreciate keeping Bray’s legacy going, I really don’t think this new stable is going to work.

Jey literally said on raw talk that he wants no smoke with the Wyatt sicks

@TMPS93

8 күн бұрын

General rule of thumb is if it didn't happen or get recapped on the show it didn't happen. Can't rely on a web show next to no one watches.

The obvious is first feud is Chad Gable. This is so much better than anything AEW is doing or has ever done.

“We hate everything that everyone else loves” the podcast.

For this to work, WWE NEEDS to have patience this time. No Vince to screw things up, but it can still go poorly.

@Sockimus

8 күн бұрын

Hunter has the patience. In a great creative environment, they watch it back and they go over what worked and what didn't. Biggest thing they need to work on is Bo not doing his Jack Sparrow walk in the dark where he can trip on something.

@mikedavis5288

8 күн бұрын

Wwe has been crazy patient, fans were impatient last time with bray… I think it’s the iwc you need to worry about tbh

@decepticonxhunter4850

8 күн бұрын

Vince invested yrs into the Bray nonsense. GOH with that stuff about Vince messing it up.

@mikedavis5288

8 күн бұрын

@@decepticonxhunter4850 Vince took brats character in ways he didn’t want it to go, that’s why he had to constantly reinvent himself but try to tell the same story Vince invested many years into a lot of people, doesn’t mean he knew best

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

Undertaker did fine with a gimmick way more outrageous than this

Rip Bray 🙏

dave meltzer sounds like dr detroit

I love that they keep asking “well what happens when they have to wrestle?” like Bo, Gacy, Nikki and Redbeard aren’t all good to solid workers.

@Cobralalalala

8 күн бұрын

Bray was a solid worker, but the Fiend matches sucked. Are we going to get multiple people doing that? That was their point.

@nicktennant4301

8 күн бұрын

It doesn’t matter if you’re a good worker, if you’re saddled with a supernatural no-sell monster gimmick, it’s going to be difficult to have good matches.

@dsadams17

8 күн бұрын

And they'll be stuck with the "stand in center and no-sell" gimmick. They're not going to go out and do 15 minutes of solid in-ring, they're gonna do 2 minutes of squash, followed by 13 minutes of standing around, looking ominous.

@FrankPapageorgio

8 күн бұрын

It’s more about how they take off the costumes and are just normal looking dudes that have supernatural powers? They usually means no selling offense and supernatural strength

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

You’re a hater mook😒

The show was basically over,HHH wasn't there,show was over,he went home,And they should put all of Jay Uso matches into a triple threat so they don't Suck! Its amazing to me that all this hype over an entrance because Jey figured out how to get everyone excited About moving there hands up and down 😆

Dave brought up Triple H and his thing with the video games back in the day. Had me dying lmfao

How is Chad in the match after being murdered on the show lol

the corn sent me here

Spooky bullshit. The Wyatt family is like a cheap spinoff.

I just finished Raw and am completely covered in goosebumps. Taker aside, this may have been one of the greatest cinematic execution of horror in all of pro wrestling. I came here to get more insight and see what others were saying...... And here you two are, opening your podcast with "Here's my problem with the......." and cracking wiseass jokes. This is why you guys will never push the business forward. You're only here to hold it back and talk shit about it. I hope you can go back and learn how to become a fan again, and then talk to your thousands of viewers on this platform that you've built.

@ricosuave7053

8 күн бұрын

Only come to these videos for the comments now lol

@haloichigo1

8 күн бұрын

I think you are over reacting to their pretty fair opinions. I enjoyed this segment as well, but there is a lot of truth in what they said regarding the follow up because I loved the Fiend but most of the time it didn't work especially in the ring and when it came to his opponents. The show in general is meant to be a report on what happened and interjecting their opinions not a fanboying session and they didn't even bury it. Just asked where was Hunter and reserving judgement for the follow up. I don't really get what they said that was so terrible.

This segment would get 7 stars if it were in the Tokyo Dome

@six6thdisciple

6 күн бұрын

COPE

I’ll give it a chance even though I wasn’t a fan of the idea initially. As long as they stay away from world titles and main eventers it should be fine

@UncleHarper666

8 күн бұрын

Brother I don't even think they need world titles and I don't think WWE is planning that. Just give them descent booking and let them cause havoc and they should be fine. However I do think that they should atleast be winning mid-card and tag titles. Alexa(when she does return) and Nikki Cross can go for the women tag team championships. Gacy and Lumis can go for the Tag Team Championships. Howdy can go for the IC Title. But yeah even if they don't win any titles they would still do good if given solid booking.

@Linklex7

8 күн бұрын

But the problem is if they are that dominant, why wouldn’t they be going after the world titles?

@UncleHarper666

8 күн бұрын

@@Linklex7 maybe they have a different purpose other than winning world titles? I don't know if a world title reign with Uncle Howdy would work.

I was just impressed by the *filmmaking* of it all. I kept yelling louder and louder the more that one camera take went on 😂

How is Gable making it next week if he died?

I’m puzzled why they would feel bad for Jey Uso. He’s lucky to get any kind of reaction/push after that atrocious Mania match that should’ve killed his career.

Seeing how both Gable and Strowman were executed by Uncle Howdy's animal dress-up gang, does that mean Big Bronson Reed gets a free pass into the MITB Ladder Match due to forfeit? Or is Pierce finding two replacement opponents for him to face on next Monday's RAW?

@stevemygoodman7809

8 күн бұрын

I didn’t see Strowman. Where was he ?

@Shisui5752

8 күн бұрын

The funny part is that Bronson asked the same question on Twitter. 😂

@SpaceGhost92

7 күн бұрын

Maybe they’ll show up in a neck brace like uncle Tony

First time ever visiting this channel. Listening to Dave's comments and scrolling quickly through the comments, it's immediately obvious that this crowd is all that people say it is and more. Even worse than I imagined.

Fantastic debut, nailed it!

The Wyatt 6 is pure wrestlecrap. Reminds me of Retribution. It’s crap

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

Did you watch Undertaker and Kane? How is this different or worse?

@adamlennard1828

8 күн бұрын

Oh go and watch that pretend tough guy Moxley if you want wrestle crap.

@ricosuave7053

8 күн бұрын

Their debut was way better than Retribution. Give this time to see where it goes

Of course these 2 have low expectations. Had this happened in AEW they would’ve said it was brilliant and gave it a 7/5 star rating. Sorry this isn’t House of Black.

Drew is going to show up on Smackdown with a gvn.

One of the best endings in Monday night, raw history and you somehow find an issue with something Triple H wasn’t there? Give me a break.

I get having be a bit hesitant on the Wyatt Sicks. All previous Wyatt storylines/character work started out great and then ended on a dud out of nowhere. A common denominator in that was Vince. History shows that if Vince doesnt like or more importantly, doesnt understand it. He changes his mind and does what he does. We all know that if AEW did this exact same thing Dave would be saying singing a different tune 'this was the great and everyone in the group is going to have great matches.'

They got something with the Wyatt sicks

“Maybe he was in the bathroom” 😂

@labeebulshah8424

4 күн бұрын

With Liv and Dominick.

They killed 2 people, others dead/hurt...who knows. Gable-dead, that poor guy by the door dead too (blood brain splatter on wall)

Same guys who praised the AEW “devil” storyline for months on end btw..

@labeebulshah8424

4 күн бұрын

Davil storyline was stupid. And people call me Tony Khan fangirl.

social media has made it virtually impossible to successfully execute a supernatural storyline in wrestling

@sethputnamsghost6538

8 күн бұрын

It didn’t help that it just looked phony af.🙈

@ericharrison813

8 күн бұрын

@@sethputnamsghost6538what??? It was phenomenally produced and executed… only people disliking it r people that follow meltzer idiot ass

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

​@@sethputnamsghost6538did you feel that way about Undertaker?

@granite8959

8 күн бұрын

@@jaysgamingcorner8539 yes

@mr.ilikespam6081

8 күн бұрын

good thing its not going to be supernatural

Bryan, your bitching too much on the Wyatt 6. Look WWE needs an Undertakeresk type of character and this Uncle Howdy could be the one to fit on that box. We’ll see…

bryan alvarez is such a miserable dork. you can tell the death of bray wyatt and his brother returning to carry his lantern and continue his legacy means absolutely nothing to him. if it ain’t real graps it sucks according to bryan

@UncleHarper666

8 күн бұрын

Same thoughts but hey people like him are in a minority. Let's not waste our time on these dorks and enjoy what we love ❤

@jonmeans2637

7 күн бұрын

If it doesn't contain useless high spots and 50 million kick outs then it ain't any good to these two goofs

@six6thdisciple

6 күн бұрын

ROACHES ON THE MAT???…KNOCK IT OFF

@UncleHarper666

6 күн бұрын

@@six6thdisciple what

Dave listening to this like damn this is good why can't we have story and presentation like this In aew

@oldboygamer9985

5 күн бұрын

Or an episode of Dynamite that doesn’t overrun tv time.

Almost a trip when Bo Howdy started walking.

Bryan's inability to understand the appeal of spooky nonsense in wrasslin is why he not only isn't invited to the cookout but doesn't understand what it means to be invited to the cookout

Bryan and dave hated bray wyatt, they hated everything he did, made fun of him all the time so I expect the same.

Can someone explain to me why is it the Wyatt6 when it's only 5?

@PopKingKeith

8 күн бұрын

Bray Wyatt’s spirit is the sixth member as you can see the light on their new t-shirts.

@PMKru

6 күн бұрын

Alexa Will Join & Its Not 6 Its Sicks

@randallw583

6 күн бұрын

​@@PopKingKeith thank you for clarifying that

@randallw583

6 күн бұрын

​@@PMKruthanks for chiming in but their official name is Sick6.

Dave & The Corn can rule the Flat Earth!

I loved that debut gahah. Yes it’s over the top and maybe corny lol. But it was awesome. Let it play out

Who did I miss? Because I only counted 5 :-\

@wrestlerecap1324

8 күн бұрын

I was saying the same thing lol I guess Bray counts as 1 of them? Either that or there's only 5 and they are spelling it Wyatt Sicks

@nateputerbaugh5709

8 күн бұрын

Alexa will be the 6th when she returns

@UncleHarper666

8 күн бұрын

Alexa will be the sixth. For now they consider Bray's spirit in the lantern as the 6th member. But I don't get it why they are calling it the Wyatt Sicks and not Wyatt 6

@matttibos2562

8 күн бұрын

I assume Bray is the 6th and the lantern represents him

In less than a year, we're gonna talk about how this New Wyatt faction was a bad idea

You guys are the absolute best at analyzing. Everything and totally agree. So the debut no doubt was one of the best of all time but when it comes down to it this is wrestling not a horror movie. And the follow up is everything and seeing it then performing in the ring. Is half of it and hopefully they will succeed

Raw Rocked

Netflix exec loves Uncke Howdy/Wyatt6... new series coming to netflix

It's the worst hokey thing in forever. Nobody in that group can work, it's an embarrassing angle.

dave sounded crazy when he was talking about hunter being in the bathroom WHAT

Find it hilarious that if AEW did this they are a shitty company but WWE does it it’s the greatest thing ever

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

You’re a hater mook😒

Well as Hell in a Cell 2019 is anything to go by, the giant mallet will be fine to use

It was awesome!! But the follow up will be very interesting, Bron Breaker got suspended for wrecking havoc so what is gonna happen to Howdys group after they took everyone out in the back lmaoo . Did Adam Pierce hire them ? And if he did wouldn’t he fire them now after what they did 😂😂

Wwe is doing good but this won't end well

Weren't there only 5?

@michaelvandoran1377

8 күн бұрын

Yeah the 6th is either bliss or bray in spirit 🤷‍♂️

@steviemacc2745

8 күн бұрын

@@michaelvandoran1377 ohhhhhhhh ok

Hell yeah i remember the video game ego. Killed that studio over his own image.

I hope this is just a special attire moment. I would prefer them wrestle without the masks. I hope their motive is that their respect for Bray brought them together to carry his legacy. Bo can go after the men who each member feuded with or has history with Jey, Balor (Judgement Day), DIY, LA Knight, Orton, Reigns, Rollins,

What an awesome Raw

I think they will tone down the supernatural aspect a bit. The best way in my opinion is to say these people let the fiend into their lives and uncle howdy unleashed them into the WWE. They should all have a unique “supernatural” ability where they dont sell the move or have a cheating gimmick like munta’s mist. Rowan can imitate a hulk up ability. Nikki, can get up and crawl towards her opponent immediately after hard knock down. Joe Gacy, can do something with gas/smoke. Maybe something like scare crow in the movie batman begins. Dexture can go on psychotic rampages that gets him DQ’ed. Basically keep the creep/“supernatural” stuff believable in the ring. On the outside, make things even more creepy, but make it believable based on their individual personalities. Make this group seem like the movie Purge and we might have something here. No ghost/lightning bolts, just a psychotic cult that is on a rampage.

A faction full of lower mid-card talents and the WWE marks ate it up.🤣

@labeebulshah8424

4 күн бұрын

Yes

So much negativity about the Wyatt Sicks. But the Learning Tree is "great. TV."

Great Wyatt family debut, They'll be having Segments, with R Truth & The Miz in 2 weeks...

@Empest

8 күн бұрын

You're clearly a hate watcher. Go back to watching AEW. aka AEL.

@blackjack23able

8 күн бұрын

@@Empest You're clearly apart of the WWE Fan Club Defense Force. Tell ya Papa H I said what'd up..

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

You’re a hater mook😒

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

@@blackjack23able You’re a hater mook😒

@haloichigo1

8 күн бұрын

To be fair R-Truth dealing with them would be hilarious and it would be even better if Truth tells Miz they can handle them since Miz has experience with fighting zombies.

If they no selled the attack, did a 450 and 7 super kicks in Japan yall would of said, "best debut ever" gtfoh. Yall think your opinions are end all be all.

The fans on Twitter and in the arena going nuts for the Wyatt family is a sign that wrestling has passed me by.

@horgh_japan

8 күн бұрын

I remember Cornette ranting about that "four Doinks" Survivor Series team being more over than the Rock n' Roll Express and how much he loathed WWF fans at the time. Some people were legit worried about Warrior being cursed by Papa Shango. People truly went nuts for Hogan beating up an actor playing a character from a movie he starred, somehow believing that Tiny Lister, actor credited with the character of Zeus, was not a character but a real life monster. There were people who loved and went nuts for the 'Taker going to heaven after half the heel locker room beat him up and locked him in a casket. WWF fans have always been into these things.

@jaysgamingcorner8539

8 күн бұрын

It worked for Undertaker

@horgh_japan

8 күн бұрын

@@jaysgamingcorner8539 Context, context, context. "Mean" Mark Callous was not a big name in JCP/WCW and WWF fans at the time largely didn't read Apter mags or followed JCP closely enough to know who he was. Unlike Rowan or Cross or for that matter Dexter Lumis. Plus, no internet to tell you who these people were before and no Apter tying himself in a knot to explain how former lesser Skyscraper/midcarder Mark Callous became a zombie undertaker capable of taking insane amounts of punishment (too far back, so anyone remember how Apter explained it?). Second, this was relatively brand new and the WWF kind of kept it simple for the initial heel run. If fans could accept Zeus, they could accept 'Taker. It's his first face run that got wacky and weird but by then the guy was so over and the WWF so cartoony that fans would buy into a lot of dumb stuff. Plus, they kept him somewhat apart from other stuff happening. No "let's go pretend murder people" or anything like that. This ain't the Codyverse - they were introduced as having agency over EVERYONE right off the bat. If an ECW fans didn't like hardcore, they still had RVD doing his rolls and flips or the light heavy/cruiser weight guys. Or they could sing along with a chant. Or just enjoy the popular music blaring through the PA. Critics of Taker's rise to heaven still had tons of non-fantasy/supernatural stuff to enjoy and could avoid Taker like I avoided Hogan matches in the late 80's onward. Mind you, the attitude era brought its own share of reality defying stunts including Austin repeatedly breaking the law in full view of a camera crew conveniently following him and yet never seeing jail time. But that just proves that WWF fans (and probably wrestling fans in general) have always been apt to swallow stupid stuff if they thought it was fun.

@jaysgamingcorner8539

7 күн бұрын

@@horgh_japancall it stupid or call it great Taker is one of the most legendary wrestlers of the last 30 years and his gimmick was a zombie with magic powers. I find it odd that now people want WWE to be so real, like we should just pretend all that stuff didn't happen because everyone is a "smart fan" now that allowed the Internet to destroy their suspension of disbelief. I watched Wrestlemania and heard the crazy pop when he magically teleported behind The Rock and choke slammed him; no one seemed too bothered by the unreal thing that just happened

@horgh_japan

7 күн бұрын

@@jaysgamingcorner8539 I assume you're too young to have seen 'Taker during his initial heel run following his introduction as part of DiBIase's team at the Survivor's Series. Until his face turn, 'Taker had been rather subdued. Yes, he seemed impervious to pain but then we had Zeus doing that before him. At least 'Taker WRESTLED and bumped as opposed to just doing rest holds and pretending to snap people's necks. Liked Diesel, looking badass made him cool and popular enough to warrant a face turn. Then things got weird. Imagine if Taker had arrived doing his post face turn schtick with the magic zombie stuff. Magic urn shooting beams of light, "going to heaven" and all that. Would he have become as popular? Imagine if the Ultimate Warrior came in and his first feud involved Papa Shango and voodoo curses instead of his running over HTM in record time. Would he have made the same impact?

You guys are being too negative this could actually be something really cool just wait and watch

Job squad is back

@normaningemann3868

8 күн бұрын

Dungeon of Doom!

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

You’re a hater mook😒

@anthonylucero6650

8 күн бұрын

@@normaningemann3868 You’re a hater mook😒

I grew up always likeing the supernatural stuff since the Undertaker was and is my favorite wrestler of all time so I loved the segment. But I am also now a fan that greatly appreciates great in ring work rate. So while the segment was great, I hope the in ring pays off because while I love gimmicks and story it is the in ring work that is going to make me invest in seeing them more so hopefully they are Wrestlers or put on smoke and mirrors to make matches good.

They will be on superrstars doing 50 50 booking before you know it.

The ending was fine and everything but I have to agree with Dave and Bryan - most of the Wyatt stuff sucked and I’m afraid this will be similar.

Do these guys ever not complain

You see… triple H gave them contracts to wrestle in sanctioned professional wrestling matches. Everyone else is fair game to harm

What if ....the Wyatt Sicks go around "murdering" all in their way, rollins, cody cant defend, save the lockeroom on their own, WWE need a vindicator, a hero.....cue the call to drew

Wyatt6 💯🔥🔥🥶👏

Uncle dave uncle howdy me crying uncle on this angle allready. A lot of uncle stuff going on here.

Can tell Dave had a talk with Bryan..Dont wanna lose his job then they couldnt rip people off that pay them money to listen to dog shit