I'll be streaming Battlefront V in a few minutes! www.twitch.tv/eckhartsladder

@clarkieclark6762

6 жыл бұрын

EckhartsLadder do u mean battlefield 5

@jacovo974

6 жыл бұрын

EckhartsLadder do the battle of yuuzhan'tar!

@lukehartfield7134

6 жыл бұрын

Clarkie Clark lmao ur funny becuz Battlefield V and Battlefield 5 are the same thing

@nightfury732

6 жыл бұрын

EckhartsLadder yes

@SuperWindsage

6 жыл бұрын

ah the good oldie, nuke it to hell. I SEE!!! yeah. I think part of the issue besides Palpatine fucking with everyone and Dooku actually knowing they were coming in his own way was that the jedi diddnt want to, you know genocide the place and the genosians, they underestimated the droid numbers, diddnt know what they were walking into and all that.

Yeah but if they didn't land their clones they couldn't show off their cool new clone army.

@allnamesaretakenful

6 жыл бұрын

That is the real reason. Lucas wanted it to look cool, not make sense.

@mozzy207

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, droids and clones and all their vehicles etc duking it out is much entertaining than watching orbital bombardment for 10 minutes

@darwinxavier3516

6 жыл бұрын

I'll be 1st to admit I enjoyed watching all the varied toys shooting each other. That movie probably introduced more new vehicles than any other Star Wars movie ever. Hell, its introduced more interesting vehicles than the entire Disney canon thus far.

@L._.A-06

6 жыл бұрын

Orbital bombardment would be stupid like legit the main combatants live underground they would easily live through even a long time of that plus that is pretty brutal and Jedi would never accept that strat

@quartzking3997

5 жыл бұрын

KingSkeletor why show off the army? Make the enemy believe you have an insignificant force and then surprise them by unleashing your army in a surprise attack where orbital strikes can’t be used

Mace Windu: I feel it would be better if we launch an aerial assault. Yoda: Retarted you are. Land we will and show of our sexy army we shall. Windu: ...

@evolvedturtleproductions7600

5 жыл бұрын

Begun, the Cool Visuals have!

@danieltobin4498

5 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Windu sent Commandos to the front line

@adam6620

Ай бұрын

Wow the unrestricted unknowing use of the r-word. Funny, u r not.

@comedycompilations7748

Ай бұрын

@@adam6620 Grow up

If Dooku escapes, rally more systems to his cause, he will.

@comowowade7864

6 жыл бұрын

Lol "Doge fishon"

@comowowade7864

6 жыл бұрын

Nice profile picture

@lilcolgatevert3715

6 жыл бұрын

A quote from which character, is this? Remember this line, I do not

@breiter4697

6 жыл бұрын

Lil Colgate Vert Yoda I think

@breiter4697

6 жыл бұрын

It's been a while seen this movie though so if I'm wrong don't be mean

The Republic had tactics? Pretty sure they just dropped all their troops in a field and told them to go get 'em. As for your tactics, before watching this video, I thought to myself, "Why didn't the Republic just smash and grab the jedi, retreat to orbit, and bombard the Separatists into submission?" Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought so. As you say though, it's a particularly brutal strategy, and if the CIS can portray Geonosian drones as innocent civilians, the destruction and death rained from orbit may lead systems to joining the Confederacy much how Tarkin's brutal actions led systems to the Rebellion.

@goldenghetto7797

6 жыл бұрын

Justafan IV you know you are right about the Republic's "tactics"

@CaptainM792

6 жыл бұрын

The Acclamator assault ships are not designed for orbital bombardment, they are mainly for transporting troops.

@billclark5055

6 жыл бұрын

If I was a developer in Episode 2, I would have Lucas for the CIS to have a fleet of droid control ships that goes to battle against the acclamators.

@justafaniv1097

6 жыл бұрын

He mentions that the Acclamator is Base Delta Zero capable, which to me means they are more than capable of orbital bombardment.

@michaelramon2411

6 жыл бұрын

Geonosians live underground and most of their structures and foundries are essentially bunkers. I think they can tank a few weeks of orbital bombardment, at least until they muster all of their space assets from elsewhere and start slamming your blockade like there's no tomorrow.

Republic's lack of effective strategy could probably be attributed to Palpatine. Had Geonosis been taken and neutralized, the war would have been short and decisive, preventing Palpatine from building his power base and carrying out his plans.

@ballofmayo5132

6 жыл бұрын

The republic also put Jedi who were peacekeepers as generals and had been demilitarized for a long time too

@girlgarde

5 жыл бұрын

So basically, Palpatine ordered the Jedi and the Clone trooper military forces to land their ground forces for a land battle and have their cruisers leave orbit?

@kofola9145

4 жыл бұрын

It is not possible to win a galactic war with a single planet.

@jackstuhley1745

4 жыл бұрын

fantasticmoose but this makes sense

@nfldend501

4 жыл бұрын

@@kofola9145 I strongly disagree the demorilization of the destruction of leadership would have scared the remaining leadership off world along with an overwhelming victory nd the leadership being killed would have brought them closer to the table for peace talks

I'm going to defend the Republic here. Remember, Geonosisians are a primarily underground species, and the planet itself is probably the most Base Delta Zero-resistant imaginable. Keeping the Acclamators in orbit and depending on LAATs for troop deployment, while offering a better blockade (and potentially preventing the leadership's escape) dramatically slows down the deployment. The core of the canon strategy was a brutal lightning strike to overwhelm the enemy using the element of surprise before the droid factories could be put fully to work. Your strategy seems like it converts the blitzkrieg into a siege, which is fine, but I feel that if the battle took a few days or weeks, the Separatists could muster up enough ships to push the Republic fleet back. More core ships might have been destroyed, but no leadership capture, no planet capture and no stopping the Geonosis foundries, all while the GAR is tied up around a single planet as war breaks out everywhere else. That might not happen, but there's a good chance that it would.

@Janoha17

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Ramon The Empire resorted to chemical weapons to wipe out the Geonosians, when their typical MO is a planetary invasion with a Base Delta Zero as a last resort.

@michaelramon2411

6 жыл бұрын

And the chemical weapons didn't even 100% work! I don't like using bug metaphors regarding insectoid species, but the Geonosians are at least as hard to stomp out as cockroaches are.

@ravenks1sr15

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Ramon as long as you're doing your duty as a citizen, you're good ;)

@tallerstond8105

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Ramon or durge.

@Unammedacc

6 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Nope EckartsLadder, for that battle, the Republic was pretty clever. They did what had to be done.

In the Jedi defense it had been a thousand years since the last major war and most Jedi had no military experience

@zkapsh

5 жыл бұрын

Also I feel like they were kinda just had it thrown at them, I always felt like the majority of the Senate say the jedi as pawns to solve their problems far before the clone wars.

@FizzleFX

5 жыл бұрын

Than you hire someone who does!

@hisroyalhighness7778

4 жыл бұрын

Miguel Sanchez which was no body

@johnrankin7135

4 жыл бұрын

@@hisroyalhighness7778 well the CIS found Grievous... You don't think there were any competent and experienced generals... In a galaxy?

@CelloMaster2000

4 жыл бұрын

Darth Vitiate- yeah Palpatine sure used that to his advantage. He wanted the Jedi to be seen as incompetent and war-mongering, always trying to start wars where there does not need to be. Of course, that was propaganda spewed by the CIS, but the CIS was the republic anyway. Tbh, the Jedi should’ve been smarter and removed themselves from the fighting, since they have emphasized time and again that they are keepers of the peace, and they can’t fight your wars for you. Literally every bad thing that could’ve went wrong, went wrong. Almost everything played into palpatines hands, even when he didn’t intend it to. The clone wars was the perfect storm

If they actually had a good plan, they’d probably be able to capture the geonosis factory and could build a bigger army

@fireblast8972

6 жыл бұрын

Vsause Puppet but it was a droid factory, not only did the republic not use droids, it would cost more resources then it would be worth to try and convert it to produce vehicles and starships

@galaxies101

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But they could reprogram the droids...

@fizzlewick

6 жыл бұрын

its not a law that held them back from using droids, it was the avaiability of the clone army. Nothing is holding them back to use Battledroids and clones combined. give them a paint job, code them for repupöic service and almost double your troops in a small time if you need to/have the resources.

@fireblast8972

6 жыл бұрын

DatGengariosboi let's not forget that the Trade Federation were the ones that originally built and programmed these droids, if they had some kind of signal or switch that could regain control of the droids (not saying they do, but look at it from a republic leader's perspective), then in the middle of battle half your fighting force could do a 180 and fire on your own men. Plus the fact that Geonosis is on the complete opposite side of the galaxy from republic control, so you'd need a sizable garrison to protect the factory, suppress the locals, ship food and materials to the factory and carry back the droids, it would be more trouble then it's worth just to add cannon fodder to your army

@ernestomiguelbaez7649

6 жыл бұрын

No the taxes from the republic did

I think that one of the big problems for the Republic is that they were operating under time pressure, so they had to improvise their way through a lot of the battle. One explanation for why they focused on deploying their ground forces could be that, given the Separatists vast numerical superiority, they might have feared that a smaller force would be insufficient to rescue the Jedi. They could have supported them with their fleet, but there's a limit to how close you can put your fire support to your troops without causing friendly fire. And the Separatist troops were very close to the Jedi, and in quite heavy numbers. A solution could have been to send the Acclamators down in waves, and then return them to orbit once the clones were off the ships, after which the next wave would be sent down, etc. That way the majority of the Acclamators would always be in orbit. Of course this would mean that the ground troops would only arrive slowly, and that runs the risk of them, once again, being insufficient to deal with the Separatists. My guess is that they wanted their forces on the ground as quickly as possible, and in as many numbers as possible, and the Republic fleet couldn't get back in orbit quickly enough to stop the majority of the Separatist fleet that survived the ground assault from escaping.

@michaelramon2411

6 жыл бұрын

Also, this is not a battle they were expecting to fight YESTERDAY. Well, I guess it's possible that Anakin and Padme were in enemy custody for a few days, but not any longer than that. Even if they had been gearing up and preparing to deploy for a while in anticipation that the Separatist Crisis was about to explode, they would have had no idea that Geonosis was the target - no one did until Obi-wan followed Jango there. The army was deployed, for their first real combat EVERY, essentially blind. It's a true testament to the skill of the clones, the power of surprise and the might of a few dozen Jedi in one place that they were able to take the planet at all.

@1987MartinT

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Ramon True.

@shockwave2291

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. I'd also like to add the Republic probably weren't expecting the CIS to have a MASSIVE droid army waiting to fight them. The Clone army was literally organized yesterday/ last week, and all the Republic knew beforehand was that a bunch of systems led by a disillusioned fallen Jedi wanted to break off the Republic. They had no idea the CIS was already building up an army RAPIDLY. They probably thought their objectively superior Clone army was enough to take out the CIS on Geonosis, but ended up overestimating the logistics and allowed the CIS command to escape.

@robertagu5533

6 жыл бұрын

While all true. The CUE was ACTUALLY genuinely SURPRISED at the ferocity and SIZE of the Clone forces that launched such an all out heavy attack on them. It was basically a space Clone War equivalent of D-Day an while mostly poorly coordinated the Clones delivered and the CIS got their asses handed to them. Dooku we all notice along with the other CUE leadership was a lot more careful in future engagements. As was their enemies. Had he tried to bail like he did much later he'd probably been caught or shot down. Opting to be more classic suddenly vanished bad guy a lot the time from then on or fight his way out trying to get away fast as possible I guess after getting his wake up call. Grevious also did that a ton as well. Least both side's tactics slowly improved in later fights somewhat most the time

@gustavobernalcastillo7967

6 жыл бұрын

may I add, the surprise in the CIS is genuine, so maybe the troops could have already grounded a few waves of the acclamators before being noticed. Carefully aimed, they shouldnt be overwhelmed that easily, and I say it because, really, the jedi were turning the lightsabers in the middle of the arena, right next to freaking count Dooku before the very fools even realized they were being attacked. if thats the level of security where your leaders are, the rest of the planet was an open landing zone probably

Your strategy makes total sense. This just shows that, not only the Jedi know nothing about fighting a war, but the Republic military doctrine is also antiquated.

@darktemplardelta268

6 жыл бұрын

Mecha-san considering the republic had disbanded its military for roughly 1000 years its not surprising its tactics are outdated.

@SwiftGundam

6 жыл бұрын

Where they ever dated ever?

@johnpatz8395

6 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say there doctrine was antiquated so much as, the ground attack on the seperatist ships was needed to be shown on screen to show the kick off of the clone wars, bombardment from space would have been cool, but been over much quicker, been far less dramatic and not only not involve any of the main characters, but not even put them in jeopardy, so once again less dramatic, so it seems the battle doctrine was created to be as dramatic as possible, almost as if they knew they were making a movie. :)

@jordanpowell2242

6 жыл бұрын

Mecha-san the Jedi and Republic having been in a major war since the days of the Old Republic. As a result the Jedi became docile and inexperienced at leading soldiers just look at the stark-hyperspace war, and the Mandalorian Civil War

@lilcolgatevert3715

6 жыл бұрын

Reed Uchiha The Jedi won the Mandalorian Jedi war from what we heard. And in Legends they rekt them

There is a big flaw in your strategy. While they could base delta zero you mentioned that their basses had shields. As a cis supreme commander I would have imediately pull every important leader to the most secure basses and wait for help. Decoys and distractions would be used so you cant focus fire the building I send everyone to. We wait it out till the lucrehulks arrive and then I would attempt to make you think we got only a small ship to escape with the rest of the ships arriving as you take the bait. Aclamators are not very potent ship to ship vessels..I think a lucrehulk can distract you enough for me to make my actual escape. This entirely relies on how much can our base shields last.

@miken5448

6 жыл бұрын

I have to agree here. While, yes, the GAR does have orbital superiority at the time of the attack's beginning, the CIS definitely had ships elsewhere that would be brought in if the battle dragged on. While the acclamators did have some cruiser capabilities and weapons, primarily they were troop transports. If even a small force of actual warships arrived at Geonosis, the acclamators would have started dropping like flies. And, with that fleet essentially containing the entire clone army that was not in training still, losing it would basically mean handing the war to the CIS on as silver platter. A quick, overwhelming offensive was the strategy they needed to take the planet and defeat the forces there. I've been going over different potential strategies in my head, and ultimately though, anything that gives the CIS time to bunker down into defensive positions is too much of a risk. I would say proceed with the all out ground assault (though if I had my way it would be with actual military commanders in charge instead of Jedi acting as generals, keep them to their own skill set and use them for elite special forces) but leave just a couple of accumulators in orbit to provide bombardments to take out the grounded CIS spacecraft, and assist the ground forces. Once the other ships had unloaded their troops and re-entered orbit they could land if the ground battle needed reinforcements, or stay in orbit if the CIS ships were getting close to escaping.

@gustavobernalcastillo7967

6 жыл бұрын

that is like playing full Raddus on TLJ lol. good, but you could rather counter, with the lucrahulks on the air, just unload the droids you were saving for future encounters, there will be time to load them back when the battle is won

@L._.A-06

5 жыл бұрын

Lol don’t even need shields just go hang out with the geo bois underground

@ExoticButters168

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I literally was thinking the same thing just hold off the acclimators before they rain fire like with some dreadnoughts or vulture droids and wait for more reinforcements in the air because if you deploy say 30% troops and jedi and overload in the air I will be more worried about an Ariel assault and focus my strategies and firepower in the sky and say if the republic were to retreat we would have more support because ships would be coming out of hyperspace

@ExoticButters168

3 жыл бұрын

@@miken5448 usually LAAT'S are troop transports so with them wouldn't you use them for more firepower or just for deploying troops

You forgot how a few saboath cruisers came out of hyperspace to bombard the republic, but adi gallia, along with a small pirate group including the tritus stopped the bombardment and got rid of the trihexalon (star wars: jedi starfighter)

@noahfessenden6478

6 жыл бұрын

That's a good game right there.

@jamiewalsh3349

6 жыл бұрын

I miss playing that game. And such a great final act

@DarksaberForce

6 жыл бұрын

Sabaoth Squadron are one of the most underrated video game villains of all time. I loved those guys.

@phillipblock5304

6 жыл бұрын

Fuckin' quality game for the PS2. I miss those days... The Clone Wars comic did not give her character a good death.

The Jedi are useless in space? Adi Gallia doesn't approve of that :(

@ExoticButters168

3 жыл бұрын

Neither does anakin lol

I feel like this is the one time that the republic had an overwhelming force during the war

@a-drewg1716

6 жыл бұрын

well no the CIS still had more troops but the problem is that they weren't prepared for a attack so they weren't deployed in time and were mostly focused on getting them the fuck out instead of trying to deploy them

I know this would be difficult, but can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: thirty-three times.

@girlgarde

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the Battle of Coruscant. I don't care if the Vong occupied Coruscant and named it Yuuzhan'tar, I will never recognize that name anymore then Thrawn recognized the New Republic.

My fat ass thought that thumbnail was a slice of pizza

@justleo2956

6 жыл бұрын

BXOTROT ___ That's just sad.

@aniketbiswas7660

6 жыл бұрын

Funny but you may need to be cautious

@the_bohemian4536

6 жыл бұрын

KininjaFX yeah I know, I lost my fourteen gallons of mustard I ordered from Pizza Hut by hurricane Harvey so I couldn’t stop thinking about pizza

@the_bohemian4536

6 жыл бұрын

Aniket Biswas your right, you may never expect when the Spanish Inquisition may appear

@justleo2956

6 жыл бұрын

BXOTROT ___ I worry about you now.

I feel an orbital bombardment would be too brutal for a jedi tactic. Effective, yes. But "Not the jedi way"

@AAhmou

6 жыл бұрын

Couldn't they shoot at least the Coreships that are crewed each by a dozen thousand droids?

@Phoenix_254

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, The Jedi of the clone wars are horrible generals. In war, the objective is to kill the enemy. The Jedi cannot accomplish that without betraying their ideals. Previous Jedi in legends seemed to be able to balance the need to defeat the enemy without betraying their ideals (General Hoth comes to mind, though there was a bit were it was close)

@hippymad1

6 жыл бұрын

Too brutal against inanimate, unthinking objects?

@chadthundercock4806

6 жыл бұрын

there were geonosians that were not millitaraly involved, so they are civillians.

@Phoenix_254

6 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess, there were probably nimodeans on the ships. We saw them crewed by them during episode 1. I don't believe the Trade federation would've made them completely autonomous. The Jedi would be wary of killing them. They shouldn't, but they would.

*insert epic Battlefront II quote here*

@beasticy4216

6 жыл бұрын

Logan Smith *Watch those Risk Rockets*

@nickthecynic587

6 жыл бұрын

they're sendin in the supers!!

@billsciencenye9103

6 жыл бұрын

Just like the simulations

@Trey-dp6tl

6 жыл бұрын

For the Republic!

@justinschauwecker

6 жыл бұрын

They just don't learn do they.

I think there are several issues with your strategy. Some of which were actually addressed (although not directly) within the movie. The first and foremost is that a good portion of the Geonosian factories were underground. You'd be able to disable the lucrehulks and techno union ships, but without destroying the factories...well we saw what happened in Star Wars Clone Wars Season 2 and the Landing at Point Rain. Second, consider the implications if the Republic were to completely level Geonosis. How would that look on the holonet? With the Separatist Crisis in full swing, if the Republic had leveled the planet, the Separatists could have easily used that event to generate support. I mean the Separatists were already open to chemical attacks and blaming them on the Republic (Battle of Ohma-D'un), they'd have definitely used a Republic bombardment for their own political advantage. Countless systems would have joined them, easily furthering the Separatist cause. Overall, cool video though. Just saying that a lot of people forget that military strategy also coincides with political strategy, and that's what I love most about the Clone Wars. Some of the tactics may not make sense from a military perspective, but you also have to analyze the political reasoning behind certain strategies. Would bombing Geonosis into oblivion have worked? Yeah, probably. The Republic could have starved them out, but it would not have worked in the Republic's overall strategy (ignoring Palpatine's own strategy). Countless systems would have joined the Separatist's who would have been seen as the victims of "Republic imperialism".

It sounds good until you consider the fact that the C.I.S. most likely had munificents in orbit (From the Banking Clan.) which would have been more than a match for Aclamators which are little more than glorified transports.

@arc3028

6 жыл бұрын

Plot armor.

@lilcolgatevert3715

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure munificents didn't exist in the CIS armament during the episode 2 timeline

@tacticaldroidtx22

6 жыл бұрын

Lil Colgate Vert The Banking Clan used them long before the Clone Wars to collect debts from various worlds.

@lilcolgatevert3715

6 жыл бұрын

Tactical Droid Again, pretty sure munificents didn't exist in the CIS armament during the episode 2 timeline

@tacticaldroidtx22

6 жыл бұрын

Lil Colgate Vert San Hill was at the meeting and he decided to bring Banking Clan hellfire droids so, it would be plausible for him to also bring in munificents.

Great video and yeah I agree the battle was a mess and you have great ideas.

The one thing that no one acknowledges in the tactics is that Palpatine/Sideous wanted a prolonged war. His plan was to have most of the CIS forces escape...and it worked.

Although the tactics were rubbish, it created some great ground battle scenes, which I loved watching as a kid

"The Jedi are useless in space." Anakin would like to know your location.

What could you expect. The republic haven't had an army in years.

@ballofmayo5132

6 жыл бұрын

The republic also put Jedi who were peacekeepers as generals

Cool video, i like how you examine every single detail in your vids. Your amazing keep it up!

"I think the strategy could be tied to a few different things.." 1. Palpatine. 2. Palpatine. 3. Palpatine.

"Droid curb stomp" lol

“The Jedi are useless in space” wow that’s an ignorant assumption. Plo Koon and Adi Gallia as well as Master Tiin were known for being amazing pilots and deadly in space combat.

@RanplexLP

4 жыл бұрын

On a Fighter to Fighter basis jedi were very deadly, sure, but against Lucrehulks and other Warships there isnt that much a jedi starfighter can do. Jedi are way more decisive on the Ground than they are in space i would argue.

@isoSw1fty

2 жыл бұрын

3 out of 10,000...

I love these battle videos! I just wish for the land ones, you could use battle lines like in battlemaps, as to make your videos more accurate. Keep up the good work!

I don't know if the outro is new, but it was really cool lol.

Also, didn't the Republic still have some old Mandators in service, which while outdated could probably still have brought a good deal of firepower to the table? I would have used these heavy assets in a attempted decapitation strike against the CIS leadership.

@Jfk2Mr

6 жыл бұрын

Marcus Tullius Cicero they were parked at Kuat (property of KDY). It would take too long (negotiations and travel to the frontlines) to be used effectively at Geonosis

@datkat2001

6 жыл бұрын

I though that was just the “pride of the core” or whatever not all the mandator 1 and 2’s at kuat

I think the reason for a ground-focus was emphasized for two-things ---Jedi migt not have been used to a brutal stategy (as said). ---Palpatine wasn't ready for the war to end (as said). ---For a live experiment of the effectivity of Clones. Countering your tactics: ---Loss is inevitable. Any counter-attack would result in annihilation, regardless of how effective it could possible turn out. With this in mind, the idea is to hurt the Republic as much as possible, while escaping with the leadership. ---The leadership would leave on smaller, faster ships, leaving as soon as possible, hopefully escaping prior to a blockade. ---Put as much of my forces as possible underground, forcing you to at somepoint make a ground invasion. ---If any capital ships land too close, they would become primary targets, for stealing or simply destruction. ---Hold out as long as possible relying on pincer movement and guerrila warfare. ---If enough CIS ships were available, I would use it as a strike force to open up the blockade. If even more was available, then possibly a full counter-attack. I doubt however, that enough was available.

Wow, I just saw that snippet of Battlefield 5 & I can see it’s set partly in Narvik Norway. I used to live nearby in Sweden and recognize the terrain around the town. Amazing job.

Love your content and your channel, would love a Sidious saber, and lastly could you link your exit clip of that amazing doggo getting booped and pummeled with love amidst the spacy exit tunes of Resonance, thanks! XD

No mention of the Republic Commandos?

@YormanGina

6 жыл бұрын

Inquisitor Rhurick you mean how a good majority of them were deployed poorly and ended up getting killed?

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

Not Delta - oo-rah!

Do the Battles on Istvaan III and V during the Horus Heresy (Warhammer 40k).

It took me a month to realize I had watched probably half your videos and haven't subscribed yet. Keep up the good work.

Hey EckhartsLadder, I was just wondering if you've covered any Rebels content on your channel already, because if you haven't, I think it would be really interesting if you covered some of the battles on there, and some of the main characters, such as Rebels Thrawn, etc.

Doesn't matter if it's called Republic, Empire or First Order. If that logo is attached to you, then tactics frequently sit out of your battle plans!

Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (260th try *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

Bro what software you use to make the battle presentation?

Please where I can find the 2d models of the ships you use to the battle

An Elite Zealot vs Predator

Nothing could stop the might of the confederacy

Thank you for doing this video, it answered a few of my questions. As for your strategy, weren't there anti-air batteries guarding the separatist's forces? Also, if your issue is brutality, you could soften up the orbital bombardment; instead of glassing everything where the separatist forces are expected to be, you could utilize another, smaller ground based task force to scout out the area, to allow more precision bombing from the carriers.

The Acclamator is a transport ship, similar to the big landing ships of WW2. Which landed (dunno how to say in English) on the beach, opened a huge door to release tanks and troops. Also don't forget the heavy artillery. I doubt they would have been able to drop another way. The best strat would have been mixing a land assault like in the movie, with air superiority with some acclamators to prevent any escape

The jedi started the clone wars,period!

@kingsolomon673

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader but you were once a Jedi

@youngsmitty347

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader Damn Republic-sanctioned dogs.

@craignewsome2058

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader Only a Sith deals an absolute

@joker3889

6 жыл бұрын

You started the war.

@joker3889

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader I'm not a rebel i'm a good friend of your boss, and he told me you didn't like the sand on Geonosis. By the way your son kissed your daughter.

Excellent

Good video eck , and i think the best way to destroy the geonosian factories and defenses would be orbital bombardment with the aclamators then send the clones after all the droids are destroyed and occupy the planet. Even know the geonosians would be a problem but a surprise attack would catch them all off guard and destroy majority of the droids and geonosians , plus the core ships would also be destroyed and you can either kill the leaders or capture them but kill count dooku.

Hey Eck great vid 😁 Keep the good work on my men 😁

Star wars vs star trek vs halo vs mass effect who has best moustache! 1st attempt

@noivern8869

6 жыл бұрын

Yularen wins

As a counter to your strategy, I am assuming that I have to use what is available, and can't just say I'd have a shield, so here's what I would do. I would have heavily defended the anti-orbital cannons, as they are the only way I could keep the Republic Fleet at bay. I don't know how well defended they were, but it is clear that it was not enough. I would have had my available Navy in orbit, and not grounded, to allow for my troops to retreat if needed without risk of Republic interception, and immediately had my major leaders retreat from the planet the moment Republic Ships came out of hyperspace (which would have been much easier to detect with even a small Navy in orbit) as to avoid loosing such pivotal figures. Even if Republic ships managed to get past my defensive fleet, enough small fighters would have been destroyed to stop a ground assault on the Anti-Orbital Cannons, forcing any ground assault on them to have Republic fighters to come within range to deploy troops. This would be the only way for the Republic to stop a full evacuation at the very least, as they would be forced too far out by the cannons to form a blockade. Even then, a retreat would be unnecessary, as many more droids could be produced by the time Republic ships could dismantle the cannons, and by the time Republic reinforcements came, a planetary shield could have been constructed, and a much larger CIS Navy could have been launched, forcing the Republic into a much worse position. Another option would be to have small fighter squads to be launched to attack important Republic outposts in other sectors, as they would be barely defended in the early stages of the war, as the Republic hadn't properly deployed the Clone Army yet. And once again, even if my plan to stop the Republic had failed, it would allow my troops to be in a great position to retreat, and my key figureheads would already be evacuated. If I was unable to evacuate, I would have used the Republic bombardment as a way of slandering the Jedi and Republic, to show how evil they were, indiscriminately bombarding a planet and hitting and killing many civilian populations.

@stoutyyyy

5 жыл бұрын

William Dex geonosian drones aren’t even sentient, good luck trying to condemn that. Filthy bugs deserved what the empire did to them.

Your strategy makes perfect sense in that situation. To counter this I would have literally any think that the seperatists had in space. A couple of Munificent ships would have taken some of those carriers down

Avery interesting and important view for the what would have been the most decisive battle in the Clone Wars. I'd still like to ad that the call for attacking Geonosis was very rushed, and they perhaps had no time to make a plan. They had no intel on the planet, it's surface, or fighting capabilities, so they perhaps rushed in to secure the rescue team/capture all Separatist leaders on ground?. Thank you for making this :)

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Even if your plan is implemented to prevent the escape of separatist forces, one of the biggest holdbacks is that some of the factories of Geonosis & other sensitive areas are so well shielded that base delta zero would have little to no effects (borrowing from “Republic Commando”). Yes, air superiority is essential, but having troops on the ground probably hid the special ops groups slipping into key target locations. As for the Acclamators, I’m guessing that the ones at the battle were actually unarmed, that they actually had no turbolasers nor were their torpedo tubes loaded. Sure they loaded up everything they could on Kamino, SPMAs, LAATs, AT-TEs, & more, but I’m definitely sure that this was done for #2: keeping a low profile & not advertise itself as an actual warship & #1: Palpatine deliberately made it so that the Clone Wars would go off without a hitch. However, shortly after the start, the Acclamators had their specifically designed & built weapons bolted onto their designated hard-points & their warhead tubes filled to capacity.

@stoutyyyy

5 жыл бұрын

Nick Vinsable you don’t just “bolt on” the guns, warships are designed from the ground up to be a weapons platform.

@nickvinsable3798

5 жыл бұрын

I typed “Specifically Designed & Built Weapons” towards the end because that is what most likely would’ve happened, Stephen M. Stouter. And these Acclamators were built more like Transports rather than dedicated Battleships & Carriers.

I remember in star wars jedi starfighter that a band of priates and other jedi had had to take care of some orbital hex weapons during the battle. other wise the ground forces would be decimated with Hex weapons.

What’s the intro music that starts at 0:17??

I'm not convinced orbital bombardment would work for a few reasons. The Republic forces only know where the Lucrehulk's were and the surface factories and structures were. The vast majority of the industry and populace of Geonosis was deep underground thus protected against the admittedly limited weapons of the Acclamators. I see the only way to win is a balls to the walls assault with everything you have. I think the best tactic to be employed by the Republic (ignoring mace windu's assault of the arena) is to save the remaining Jedi in the same way. The Clones drop down and lead a forlorn hope assault on the Droids with little regard for casualties. Instead of the Acclamator's staying in orbit or keeping their distance i'd make them give close air support directly in atmosphere above the battle, this would give a huge firepower bonus and could even block many Lucrehulk's taking off. The droids might even shoot down a few cruisers but that just draws away fire from the clone spearhead. I would leave a fraction of the cruisers in orbit to destroy the Lucrehulk 'rings' with bombers and cruisers alike. The Jedi Split into two groups with clone escorts; first sets off to hunt down the head of the snake and the second goes after the CIS leadership. I'd use the Jedi as shock troopers and assassins. The aim of this is to bog down the CIS into a fight they can't leave as i believe the republic has initiative and superiority. The ground campaign would be blobby but with the turbo laser fire from the Acclamator's it would render the tight formations of the enemy an advantage for the republic.

@stoutyyyy

5 жыл бұрын

друг honestly that’s a better utilisation of the Jedi in general. They’re skilled warriors, but most of them were shit commanders, therefore organizing them into their own units is better than having them command the clones (actual trained soldiers.)

Honestly the first battle of Klendathu from starship troopers was better planned than the first and second invasions of geonosis

@chaszczek

6 жыл бұрын

Are you sure? They at least brought tanks and air suport

@commanderknight9314

6 жыл бұрын

The jedi may not have been expert tacticians then but they are not dumb or over-confident of their abilities compared to their enemy.

@AdmiralBlackstar

6 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree. The republic at least used mixed-unit tactics even at the first invasion. And the second invasion did seem more planned out, if perhaps not properly prepared for given how thinly their resources were spread out, but that was a case of taking the whole planet rather than just the key cities and facilities that we saw with the capture of most other planets.

@commanderknight9314

6 жыл бұрын

ChakatBlackstar, I agree.

@tennoshenaniganizer9234

6 жыл бұрын

ChakatBlackstar its called sarcasm

Great video, but you did leave out the Republic Commandos that were active to destroy the foundries and at least one core ship which did play a part in reducing the number of droids in the battle

3:16 the one shop two the left. What class is that?

Do the yuuzhan vong vs. the borg.

@skyslasher2297

6 жыл бұрын

Commander Knight vong 100% it was seen in voyager that the Borg can’t adapt to organic weapons

@joshuakielty

6 жыл бұрын

Vong easy. They are basically Star Wars’ species 8472

@lukeskywalker5392

6 жыл бұрын

But what if they could assimilate the vong?. They did it with species 8472 too. But they couldnt tell the rest of the collective in time.

@KuraIthys

6 жыл бұрын

That's not entirely true. They couldn't adapt to species 8472 because the biology was well outside anything the borg were familiar with. Borg Adaptation is not infallible, but it IS underestimated quite often. (the most common and self-evidently inane piece of reasoning being that borg are vulnerable to projectile weapons, based solely on what Picard did on the holodeck, even though prior evidence shows adaptation to a weapon takes somewhat longer than that scene took.) Problem with cross-universe comparisons is trying to establish a baseline for all the unknown factors. Some random things about star wars vs star trek in general: - How powerful are phasers & disruptors compared to turbolasers, etc? - Speed and limitations of Warp vs Hyperdrive. (notwithstanding weird niche things seen often in Star Trek that vastly exceed the regular speed scales) - Does an interdiction field work on warp drive? - Do star trek shields have any defensive value against star wars weaponry? - can a turbolaser track fast enough to hit even a 'large' star trek target like a galaxy class ship (or borg cube for that matter) - are fighters of any use against star trek ships. (see; Enterprise D destroying 6 fighter size targets in under 5 seconds.) - do star wars ray and particle shield protect against phasers, photons, distruptors and so on. Are they any more or less effective at this than the typical star wars weapons? - Does star wars shielding offer any protection whatsoever against transporters? There's an exceedingly long list of such things that you can come up with. Some of them are relatively easy to answer in a moderately objective manner. (warp vs hyperdrive for instance - hyperdrive wins by a landslide, but has some limitations that warp drive does not, though that offers little practical benefit to warp ships) Some are near impossible to answer meaningfully (eg. Transporters vs star wars shielding.) Some can be guessed at through secondary means, (turbolaser vs phaser firepower) but any such guess is subject to massive uncertainty. The list of such problems is so long it's almost impossible to properly compare such things without making a long list of relatively arbitrary assumptions. Even within a single universe you get questions like that though; - Eg. what are the limits of borg adaptation? - What are the Q incapable of doing? - is there a viable way to defeat the Krenim Temporal weapon that isn't basically a plot device/random luck? etc...

@commanderknight9314

6 жыл бұрын

How to stop the Krenim temporal weapon: knock it back into temporal sink with the universe then ram it.

"let's analyze republic stratagy." Gather up all your friends and dog-pile anyone who isn't you.

thanks for doing at battle during the clone wars, i can really understand it now. :D

I like your idea of how you would do it differently. But to add to that what you could do, is Cycle the ships in orbit so you can keep landing more and more forces. So say for example 1st Fleet lands their Forces while 2nd & 3rd stay in orbit, than then after 1st offloads its forces cycle 1st and 2nd out so 1st and 3rd are in orbit while 2nd lands and so on.

Master Chief vs Boba Fett

@Raving_Rando

6 жыл бұрын

MC takes the victory and runs with it.

@joshuakielty

6 жыл бұрын

I think legends Boba would win (he went toe to toe with Vader) but just based on cannon Master Chief would win easily

@greaterhalo0659

6 жыл бұрын

Joshua Kielty Master Chief would beat legends boba fett

@AdmiralBlackstar

6 жыл бұрын

Master Chief, the man who wiped out an entire armada vs. Boba Fett, the man who got wiped out by a blind guy. Who will die....laughing at how bad Boba Fett gets his ass kicked?

@CABOOSEBOB

6 жыл бұрын

Chief curbstomp

Spartans vs N7 and UNSC Marines vs System Alliance Marines

@beasticy4216

6 жыл бұрын

100% American Buffalo and Space Marines

@joshuakielty

6 жыл бұрын

Spartans>N7 but Spectors>Spartans Also Systems Alliance marines>UNSC Marines

@thedustinmobile1054

6 жыл бұрын

100% American Buffalo all system alliance marines had augmentation equal to or better than odst's

Dear creator: love the channel, fastest I've ever subscribed and the only channel I receive notifications for. Given that...my issues with your analysis. At the beginning of the battle, the entirety of the intelligence that Yoda (I'm just gonna assume he is the planner of the battle as in the film) has at the start of the battle, the movie has you beat. The Republic has an intelligence asset (Kenobi) who has potentially vital knowledge of...something. Yoda doesn't know that there is a Separatist movement yet, just that something strange is going on and Kenobi is the key. Given this, it makes sense to dispatch special forces (Jedi) to retrieve that asset and determine the threat. The only reason to have a clone army in reserve must be due to Jedi magic, because there is no other way that Yoda could have known about the extent of the Separatist presence on Geonosis. This is comparable to a US spy reporting something odd from his post in Toronto and immediately going dark, so you send an elite team to find and extract him/her. The movie posits: That team finds the asset as well as evidence of an impending invasion force, so troops must be deployed to eliminate the threat. You posit: Spy goes dark, elite team dispatched while simultaneously raining death on the entire city for...reasons? Many Monday morning generals fall victim to the trap of perfect intelligence, but given the level of information present to Yoda when he planned this assault, the only reason I can think of why he assumed command of an army and brought it to Geonosis in the first place is the Force. No major military engagement in human history has been staged on as thin evidence of threat as this battle (except for the times when a causus belli was manufactured to start a conflict).

Imperial Guard General, "I see nothing wrong here"

Boba Fett vs Predator

@joshuakielty

6 жыл бұрын

GreaterHalo06 Boba Fett

@greaterhalo0659

6 жыл бұрын

Predator would tear bobas spine out

@DarksaberForce

6 жыл бұрын

Predator

How are Jedi useless in space? Jedi are some of the best pilots in the galaxy! 4:31

@chadthundercock4806

6 жыл бұрын

they are like fighter aces in ww2, impressive but in the end doesent do much of a difference

@AdmiralBlackstar

6 жыл бұрын

True, but against the sheer numbers of the Separatists they can only do so much. Remember, Germany had the most and best aces in WW2, some of the most advanced fighters including the first jet fighters to be deployed in combat, but the Allies were the ones with the sheer numbers.

@richardgaldos6901

6 жыл бұрын

Not actually true Chakat. Germany had the best and most aces that is true. But the Allied Airforce was actually more advance for the entire war. The Spitfire was supreme in the battle of Britain despite being outnumbered and nothing could hold up against the P-51 Mustang. Even things like the famous Stuka were less effective then their counterparts like the IL-2. The difference is that in the early stages of the war, the Germans were just better trained with better tactics. Germany had the first jet fighter but the ME-262 which showed up very late in the war but thats one fighter at the very end that was not mass produced. Not really accurate to that Germany had the most advanced fighters in the war when its only 1 plane showing up for a few months. You want advance, Spitfire, P-51, B-17, B-29, IL-2, and ME-262 are all the planes you are looking for. And only 1 of those is German. Stuka is famous for pioneering tactics, not because it was more advance then its counter-parts

@reillyrussell4022

6 жыл бұрын

I'm just going to make the point that the superior fighter in the Battle of Britain was in fact the Hawker Hurricane, which was far more effective than the spitfire in that situation, as well as in other battles throughout the war.

This reminds me of when Generation Tech was making their “Everything Wrong with the Battle of ...” and I really missed it. Thanks for this!

There was a shield in Rebbels Cartoon, so perhaps it broken? Did you account for battle details spelled out in excellent Republic Commando game?

In Republic Commando, you see factories deep underground impervious to bombardment. Ground troops would have had to take them out either way.

The republic fleet curbstomping the droid army does sounds pretty fun to watch

Bombardment can be focused to key locations such as seppies leadership and military installations like the droid factories?

how long after the battle of geonosis did the Republic acquire venator class cruisers

I got some ideas about this: 1. I am not sure that some of the heavier machinery could have been sent planetside with transport craft(correct me if i am wrong pls) because of that this is how i would do it 2. I would land a minor force initially however i would rotate the ships in orbit eventually landing the full force while still maintaining the orbital blockade 3. I am not sure how effective orbital fire would be at some of the geonosian installations since most of them are underground that why i think the larger force is necessary tough i would simply storm in there blindly like the commando's did instead i would have the commando's act in a recon role to identify paths into these dug in facilities and bury them until they can be dealt with. 4. The ground force would not take the offensive instead they would initially feign weakness to try to draw in the majority of the droid army into attempting to deal a "finishing blow" once a sufficient force was confirmed to be in contact the ground forces would call in a focused orbital fire on the droid formations for maximum damage. If this succeeded i would only then start the attack, if i hard spot was encountered i would have the force wait for orbital support instead of engaging. I would also keep a force of LAAT gunships in reserve to help exploit any openings to try to strike any any facilities whose defense was sufficiently reduced.

I think the biggest issue is that they didn’t send their gunships or Acclamators to essentially block the core ships from leaving. The gunships could’ve landed their troops to the front line and then moved forward, hitting the core ships with their missiles and lasers. Without bombing them out of existence, they could’ve used the cruisers to block the coreships and blast them down as they left the surface, the core’s being pretty defenseless without the large ring-structure. Bombing the surface as you mentioned would’ve been far too brutal, and would’ve made the Republic seem far more aggressive than they are, plus the Jedi likely wouldn’t have wanted to do it and it would’ve been an issue between the Jedi and Republic.

It may have been bad tactics, but dang did it look good on the big screen!

@The-Blue-Knight

6 жыл бұрын

I

Battle geonosis:*exist* General Kenobi: lets attack with no hesitations...

What's the platform he's using to simulate these battles?

Yeah your defiantly right about abusing air superiority. There isn't much you can do about that. But the way I would countered your tactic, since you asked, is when Anakin Skywalker and padame were caught going after obi-one, figuring out that others know your position and a republic attack is incoming isn't hard. From there I would order a small fleet to return to genesis and camp out in orbit. From there I would bait the Jedi, kill as many as can be safely killed and order the evacuation while simultaneously ordering some droids to pull a scorched earth campaine on military assets. Can't avoid a republic victory so I make it a strategic loss of possible.

All your strategies are GENIUS!!!!

Can you do a video on the Dark Reaper? An ancient super weapon in the Star Wars universe?

Outro Song music?

Your strategy make perfect sense. You’re using the republic navy perfectly. if ever studied the pacific theater of World War Two you would know that a navy unopposed can help out their troops significantly when it comes to an assault on targets. So I love the strategy

Were there venators present in this battle?

YES...A video talking about the battle I can rant on! LET'S DO THIS!

In republic commando, they say that the squad is sent after a factory deep underground that cant be destroyed from the air. Also that the battle was a diversion for this op to be completed also they have to find and kill Sun Fac the leader of the native forces.

Good video. I wonder though were the Clones anticipating an all-out battle to the death with the droids? The Trade Federation insisted that all available droids immediately be sent into battle but because of Count Dooku, who wants a long galactic war, they retreat. Of course, Palpatine doesn't want a total victory at Geonosis either but as far as I know he had no direct effect on the outcome of this battle.

A big issue is that they'd need to eventually land because most of the droid factory infrastructure was underground, as we learn in republic commando

Nice vid can you do the the battle for earth from mass effect 3 please.

Is there any material that says why there aren’t any Venators on Geonosis? It seems like they had them pretty quickly after this battle and they would’ve come in handy.

Can you do a video about the battle of batonn and the strategies used by Admiral Thrawn?

From the title of this video, I was expecting it to be about how battles in Star Wars tend to get portrayed like they're Napoleonic line battles with all the soldiers just charging into each others' firing line, waving their guns around wildly...

What if a SLDF (Star League Defense Force) assault fleet of same size invaded? Could be a cool type of video were different sifi factions fought in different universes important battles.