What bugs me the most is that when a penalty happens that is unreviewable and clearly replay shows it DIDN'T HAPPEN.

@ABitefLife

6 ай бұрын

I feel bad for Seattle the officiating was abysmal. You could tell the refs WERE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE SEAHAWKS TO WIN

@ittorasetsuxx8077

6 ай бұрын

@@ABitefLifeDallas was flagged just as much as the Seahawks. Dallas lost to the eagles due to flags no one seems to use that as an excuse but you will make up any excuse to discredit Dallas.

@ABitefLife

6 ай бұрын

@@ittorasetsuxx8077 none of the flags On Dallas stopped a drive or extended a drive . It was all harmless penalties at first down usually where people like Dallas fans can say “see they called just as many flags on both teams”. All the flags on Seattle were drive killers or drive extenders for Dallas . Anyone who knows , knows…. People are catching on to the tricks

@kman9884

6 ай бұрын

@@ittorasetsuxx8077Dallas lost bc their WRs forgot how to catch. Don’t cry about it

@ittorasetsuxx8077

6 ай бұрын

@@kman9884 5 point game. Seems like uoure the one crying about it. Dallas has better wins against the same teams the eagles played

Thank you for covering this. The refs were AWFUL. They made the game less enjoyable.

@Ice-Blade

6 ай бұрын

they weren't' helping anyway

@carlodave9

6 ай бұрын

Refs called a lot if bs penalties on Cowboys too, but it was WHEN they called them that showed that old-fashioned Dallas bias.

@alexberge5998

6 ай бұрын

@occamsrazorbladethe hawks absolutely played well enough to win. It was when the refs started home cooking for Dallas and extended one touchdown drive four times with some phantom PI calls that gave them any sort of momentum.

@vikingmama93

6 ай бұрын

​@occamsrazorbladeI'm a Cowboys fan and these refs aggravated the stew outta me.

@wisewolftony

6 ай бұрын

@@alexberge5998 They weren't phantom PI calls they were holding or illegal contact calls which were almost all called correctly. So you can't bitch about flags when both teams were constantly either grabbing a hold of jerseys or putting their hands all over WR more than 5 yards down the field when they are breaking on their routes. All you can complain about is not liking the rule not them enforcing the rule correctly for the most part all game.

They called delay of game on Seahawks when the refs were slow to spot the ball on the FG try. Carroll was trying to call timeout last minute. But then Seattle had a TD called back because of the Cowboys' bs "timeout" call.

@matthewphillips5911

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. You might be able to argue that that's cherry picking, but it strikes me as suspicious that the flags fly on pivitol 3rd and 4ths so *very* often especially on the "most penalized" teams.

How can you not think these games are being fixed?

@smitjimmers144

6 ай бұрын

Especially with there being FanDuel and DraftKings commercials every 5 minutes

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

With bookies saying they are the "official" betting partner of the NFL. They make money the NFL makes money

@retiefgregorovich810

6 ай бұрын

When the number of penalties and yard from penalties was pretty much the same for both teams? Stop crying.

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

@@retiefgregorovich810 When you make an offensive penalty you get yards taken from you. When you have 5 defencive penalties called against you in one drive you give the other team 5 first downs and a TD.

@tacoma81

6 ай бұрын

​@@retiefgregorovich810flags were thrown after plays instead of the time of penalty.

Another Seahawks game taken over by blown officiating? That's just another Seahawks game.

There was a crucial Seattle 4th down where the Dallas defender tackled the receiver at the exact same time as the ball arriving. Bobby Wagner was flagged for the exact same thing just on the drive previously.

@felwinter7883

6 ай бұрын

Bobby Wagner timed his tackle perfectly and he was penalized for it.. probably the most egregious call I saw all night

@danielbailey9049

6 ай бұрын

Yup I noticed it too. But as a Seahawks fan I’m pretty used to refs being slanted against. At the end of the day we had a chance to get a game winning drive and we came up short

@evanpenn1

6 ай бұрын

Agree, that Wagner penalty was awful. The ball was already by them, uncatchable. Really bad. And I'm a Rams fan.

@ace448

6 ай бұрын

@@felwinter7883no that was the picked up flag for a face mask tackle on DJ Dallas. You watch the replay it’s clear it was a face mask and they picked the flag up

@BMW1x1

6 ай бұрын

..and the ball to Wagner was 3 feet away hitting the turf. Geriatric Jones got his 💰 out for this game.

Call it what it is: the game was tainted by refs on the take. The league has ignored this issue thinking it won't affect fan interest. It's too late. I'm out!

I agree with all that…and to add on, when they reviewed the face mask call and then determined there was NO Penalty….WTH are we doing?!🤦‍♂️

The refs are the #1 reason I have stopped watching football - other than my team. Way too many times over the last ten years or so the refs have had more of an influence in the outcome of the game than the players. It's not all their fault - the rules have become so complicated and so subjective that they're impossible to enforce consistently. And, to make it worse, it's clear that some teams get more of the benefit of the doubt than others. Like a baseball ump not calling the same pitch a strike batter after batter, the inconsisitency is maddenning. Especially when it comes to calls like roughing the passer. The NFL needs to simplify the rules. They also need to assess the impact penalties have. #1 is DPI. A DPI should be 15 yards - period. The fact that one call - which, by the way, is somehow sometimes DPI and sometimes not depending on the ref and the teams that are playing - can literally change the outcome of a game is, simply, ridiculous. Bottom line is, the players should be deciding the game, not the refs.

@snerdterguson

6 ай бұрын

They didn't influence the outcome. And they weren't bad calls. Fans are now literally upset because refs accurately called pass interference. Both teams had a ton of penalties. Because both teams kept committing penalties. Both had drives extended by penalties, and scored points because of them. I'm not saying the refs don't suck in general, but there being a lot of penalties in a game is not proof that officials did a bad job.

@ABitefLife

6 ай бұрын

@@snerdtergusonif you think they didn’t influence the outcome then you are a cowboys fan because it was obvious Dallas was going to get that win one way or the other . If I was Seattle I would be pissed too . The officiating was a joke

@Ironcabbit

6 ай бұрын

Sean Payton and Drew Brees will never have another opportunity to guide the New Orleans Saints to a Superbowl, and their last best chance was directly denied by lack of a clear Pass Interference call.

@Twin_Hook

6 ай бұрын

@@snerdterguson Someone would have to be a fool to watch one game and draw the conclusions/opinions that I have. My comments were not specific in any way to the Dallas/Seattle game. I didn't watch it but I can tell from what I've read and listened to that it's the same thing I've seen again and again and again. Yes, there will be times when the call is a good call - when the DPI was actually DPI. BUT, then there are the times when it isn't. And that's not acceptable.

@smitty810

6 ай бұрын

Football was so much better back in the day. Played by men and no ticky tack penalties like you see today. Haven't watched NFL in ten years and don't miss it.

The NFL officiating has ruined the experience for me. I don’t think there’s a conspiracy to boost certain teams, I think it’s incompetence. These refs are part time workers with other full time jobs… we all need to hold the NFL accountable so they invest real resources in the quality of officiating

@donaldheinlein7787

6 ай бұрын

Bud, u must not have watch enough NFL , do some critical research of your own and you will think differently

@zombiepicnic9683

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree! If these billionaires would make an investment in full crews of full time officials, the game would be so much better for it. Granted, there will always be mistakes, but people get better the more time and effort they put into something. And while there might not be a conspiracy now, the combo of part time refs with the rise in sports betting means the door is wide open for a scandal that could do irreputable harm to the league. This is a problem for all sports leagues, it's a matter of when not if something happens as far as rigging games (or happen again in the case of the NBA).

@Aljjl

6 ай бұрын

To say Seatless was treated fairly is BS! Dallas did not really earn that win!

@thesciguy4823

6 ай бұрын

Oh they DEFINITELY give certain teams the benefit of the doubt. I've watched it with my own eyes. Sweetheart teams ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt and teams playing them definitely get ticky-tacky calls against them. Does officiating rig games? No. Do they put their thumbs on the scales? Yes.

@thedarkestowl4224

6 ай бұрын

I think you said it well. It's not a conspiracy it's the inconsistency

I have been an NFL fan for a very long time and I'm about to just start watching college. Either these refs are betting on games or they're blind. They are destroying the game.

The missed field goal was due to the refs - they placed the ball with less than 15 seconds plus didn’t give Pete a timeout .

@jerrybarnes3104

6 ай бұрын

They made up for it, gave them two first and goals from the one!

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

No excuse for the kicking team not to be ready - they can see the clock

The refs control not only the game, but the season. Additionally, the games and the refs are influenced by betting!

@lannybackes1053

6 ай бұрын

Been saying this for years...Vegas runs the league!

@CHRIS-pz5sr

6 ай бұрын

And the real winners are those who profit off games like this

refs are a joke in this league. still waiting for a coach to have the balls to say it. needs to be regulated with a grade system

@bigpoke7043

6 ай бұрын

If they speak of it.. the fine they will receive will be legendary 😂

@hudsonplays

6 ай бұрын

I know but I want one to just say F it and blow it out of the water lol@@bigpoke7043

@jamesspalten5977

6 ай бұрын

NBA refs suck, too!!

@JennaPitcherTHX1138

6 ай бұрын

@@bigpoke7043 yup, NRL coaches here are fined $20-25K for even a whiff of criticising refs. Can't imagine how much it would be in the US

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

NBA is fixed. The refs are told not to call fouls on certain players and there was a guy who was caught with his hands in the cookie jar

I'm a cowboy fan but even I felt as if the refs was giving us that game it looked suspect for sure

Especially when they didn't get the ball down until 15 seconds left to place and kick, THEN give them 5 yards

I love when they pick up flags and just say there was no penalty

@jamesw6899

6 ай бұрын

You mean when someone almost gets their helmet ripped off by the face mask??

@transer1337

6 ай бұрын

It should happen way more than it does

@JONTEE206

6 ай бұрын

That was soo wild.

@LeahE-dc1gu

6 ай бұрын

Yup, total BS

@maxcrss2845

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesw6899lol that wasn’t a face mask. You have to grab the face mask for it to be a face mask, and there was no grabbing done.

How do you pick up the face mask penalty?

I love Rich and man real talk I'm glad he spoke on it and he said it because this is what's not being spoke about as far as

even watching only the highlights and having no skin in the game, it looked heart breaking to be a seahawk defender in that game. Are these the same guys that robbed the seahawks of a superbowl in Detroit vs the Steelers. Cause that was the worst officiated game in league history.

@snerdterguson

6 ай бұрын

So they shouldn't call pass interference because it happens in a big spot? I mean, they weren't even bad calls.

@DAKreates

6 ай бұрын

@@snerdtergusonyes the actually were bad calls💀 Dallas was carried

@disqusrubbish5467

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that Super Bowl took the cake. Hasselbeck threw an interception and was called for offensive pass interference for tackling the guy with the ball. Suspiciously, all the pre-game hype was "The Bus" was playing in his last game...

@JONTEE206

6 ай бұрын

Someone came out & said that Superbowl was on the fix. He talked on the details and sounded legit. Some mob guy spoke on it a few years ago. I believe the lead official "Leavy?"passed away.

@alexvargo8043

6 ай бұрын

@@snerdtergusonno they shouldn’t call pi when it’s not happening. Wagner clearly got there at the same time maybe even a bit after the ball. Woolen put a hand on Ceedees shoulder on an overthrown ball and woolen jumped making no contact with his hands and yet when #2 does the exact thing Wagner did to JSN it’s not a penalty

It's not the amount of penalties that took place, it's WHEN they took place.

@benjaminpeters6729

6 ай бұрын

Yeah for dalls it always happened in the endzone

So I wasn't the only one yelling at my television. And I didn't have a dog in that fight. Full time refs, accountability, post game referee press... Come on Man! Come on NFL!

when you have identical contact from two diff dbs on diff teams and only one gets called constantly and the other doesn't, it sure smells like a fix. it's either that or the refs are completely inept.

@LC-ue1jh

6 ай бұрын

Except they both were almost exactly equal 😂

@eudymaverickmentor

6 ай бұрын

I agree. But somehow the Cowboys were able to over come it and pull out a win.

@jamesw6899

6 ай бұрын

@@LC-ue1jh- same total does not mean same impact. For example ticky tack fouls on failed third or fourth down tries, that extend the drive each time…. On more than one drive…

@sscswimmer1

6 ай бұрын

Prime example in the bland pick. That was the same amount of contact that had been called on Seattle multiple times throughout the game.

@LC-ue1jh

6 ай бұрын

@jamesw6899 except they weren't tick tacky and it led to extension of drives for both teams hence the 0 punts 😂

I can''t remember a season where the officiating has been so intrusive. College football too!

IMO Clete Blakeman and his crews have had it out for Pete Carroll’s teams as far back as I can remember. That NFC West- deciding game between the Hawks and the Niners a few years ago - the one where Seattle’s receiver got mugged in the endzone with no PI call to deny the game-winning touchdown - was reffed by Blakeman and his crew I think.

@haffy03

6 ай бұрын

That was Fred Warner hanging all over Jacob Hollister and holding back his arms on the pass from Russ. That game was for the division and instead SF won that game due to poor officiating. The next 2 plays resulted in a pass to Hollister and Ursua who failed to break the plane and SF made a goalline stop. 🤬

The bizarre thing is that the refs basically stopped calling anything for the entire 4th quarter. For example jaxon got hit way before the ball arrived but no pi yet in the 3rd quarter bobby got called for pi on a similar play where pretty much everyone says he timed it almost perfectly and the ball wasn't catchable. I don't actually mind penalties, what is the most terrible is the lack of consistency. We go one week where puka tripping is pi and the next week jaxon getting tackled is a clean play in the end zone.

@f0rumrr

6 ай бұрын

Ya that call on bobby was a joke, even a hall of famer like him, was like WUT ARE YOU SERIOUS.

@raising5kiddos

6 ай бұрын

They were on pace to break the NFL record for penalty yard so they just stopped calling them for a little while there even though blatant penalties were occurring. It’s a disgrace to the game we love and the NFL doesn’t seem to care.

Legalized gambling. Enough said.

@midori6756

6 ай бұрын

Truth!

That sequence where they overturned jsns touchdown and proceeded to throw 3 flags afterwards told me everything i needed to know about the refs and this game lol they really didn't want Seattle to score before the half

@benjaminpeters6729

6 ай бұрын

1. The ball hit the ground 2. The first penalty was pass interference to set seattle up at the 1 3. They called a timeout 4. The second penalty was declined because Seattle scored.

As a 49er, faithful, even I feel bad for Seattle. The refs bailed out Dallas times in their last two drives. The penalties were even mostly, when they were called was not. Dallas got a lot of fresh downs on a third down they did not convert.Seattle did not lose that game. Dallas did not win that game.

@m8x425

6 ай бұрын

That's only because you realize the Cowboys are a bigger rival for the 49ers than the Seahawks are.

@dbirds21

6 ай бұрын

Dallas won that game cause the refs extended their drives over n over again resulting in 14 points. Pretty weak penalties. The league wants Dallas to win due to Las Vegas. It's out of control.

I am fully convinced the NFL wanted Hawks to loose that game. It got to the point that whenever something positive happened for the Hawks, I would jokingly say “ok, where’s the flag” and probably 95% of the time I was right.

@thegorn68

6 ай бұрын

Them to "loose" the game? As in, loosen their grip on the game or reduce the tightness?

@Knaztr76

6 ай бұрын

I don’t get excited by any football play till almost the next snap because I expect laundry.

@thejudge7737

6 ай бұрын

Facts

@ML.0001

6 ай бұрын

it happens to all the teams not just the Hawks. The Hawks are known for being undisciplined even without the refs

@mojoschmee9320

6 ай бұрын

"...and there's the flag, of course" being stated by Al Michaels on repeat was the most enjoyable aspect of the broadcast...

FG taken away from SEA due to bad clock officiating. (no flag on this, so doesn't show up as bad officiating). Then they tried to take away SEA TD with three bad calls. When all that didn't work, refs gave DAL so many first downs on a drive all the way to inside red zone, of course DAL got a TD. This is all before 4th QTR and at least 10point handicap in favor of DALLAS.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

total penalties... Seattle - 10 for 130yds Dallas - 9 for 127yds 1st downs from penalties... Seattle - 5 Dallas - 6

The officiating has been horrible all year, but somehow it started getting worse last weekend, starting with the Texans/Jaguars game (both sides).

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

The Bills Eagles game was horrible. The refs handed thr win to the Eagles.

@mojoschmee9320

6 ай бұрын

You're obviously not an Eagles fan. Those folks seem to believe this the best NFL officiating has ever been...

The problem isn't that some penalties don't get called. It's when a penalty is called where the same act isn't called often and isn't called in that same game, but calling now changes the outcome of the game.

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

It might be the same game but a different official that is looking at that defender that play.

@TheMattTrakker

6 ай бұрын

@@answeris4217 That doesn't make it accecptable?

@answeris4217

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMattTrakker there are 7 officials on the football field. One guy can decide to let the game flow while the other can decide to call phantom penalties. Or the games could be fixed with their official partners...the book keepers.

Don't forget about the penalties that the Cowboys made that the refs picked up the flag afterwards! It was so egregious what they were doing last night it was unbelievable!

@PaintingWithLight-kt2tc

6 ай бұрын

You are incorrect.

@kimsinthe80s

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree! The obvious flag against DJ Dallas that was called back really pissed me off. There was an obvious facemask and horse collar grab against Dallas, but they called it back?! WTF?! I think the game was pretty even with penalties on both teams until the second half.

@Havok229x

6 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a blatant PI against my Lions in the playoffs awhile back. The flag was magically picked up in the cowboys favor.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

Yea bro. The only legit penalties were committed by Dallas and the only flags picked up were on Dallas. Totally.

@Drago2600

6 ай бұрын

@@Havok229xyou mean the play where both the reciever (Dez) was being held and or facemasked??

Refs picked up several flags when there was a penalty called on Dallas.

@benjaminpeters6729

6 ай бұрын

The refs picked up an illegal contect penalty on Seattle also

I am REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping that the betting agencies start filing lawsuits against the NFL due to the extremely incompetent refing in these games costing people money unless this is all rigged to help the house already.

Finally we’re taking our game back. Good for Pete. The majority of NFL games comes down to 5 plays… refs need to reel it in

They helped Dallas down the field for an entire drive with multiple highly questionable PI calls. It was an absolute disgrace to the game to watch them take over like that.

@dianavecchio

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 bland/gilmore would tap a shoulder and get called for pi

@Achilles217

6 ай бұрын

Gilmore had a few phantom penalties that resulted in Seahawks extending their drives. Bottom line, the officiating crew for this game sucked.

@jerrybarnes3104

6 ай бұрын

They were just trying to make up for giving Seattle two first and goals from the one.

@jerrybarnes3104

6 ай бұрын

I seen two defensive holding calls that cowboys only got 5 yards and the first down, and they were both clearly pass interference the ball was in the air, and should have been the spot foul.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

total penalties... Seattle - 10 for 130yds Dallas - 9 for 127yds 1st downs from penalties... Seattle - 5 Dallas - 6

It's about damn time somebody actually talks about this. The NFL is straight up manipulating games through officials, and they only need offensive holding and defensive pass interference calls (or no calls) to do it. I'm not even suggesting the Seahawks weren't committing penalties, but they consistently get called for ticky tack garbage. Meanwhile, Dallas got away with offensive holding all game, including directly on big offensive plays for them. Rich brought up the time out the was given to McCarthy, but what about no timeout given to Pete when the officials spotted the ball late for the field goal and didn't reset the clock which is standard. None of these are mistakes.

Thank you for talking about this…it is a real problem. I think we need to look into the influence of legal gambling on all professional sports!

Ive been watching football religiously for 3.5 decades. Not once have I ever seen an "Illegal Man Downfield" call from the 2yd line. And when you look at the play, it was a the result of a block...then Spears just stood there. Pure insanity.

@Ice-Blade

6 ай бұрын

yeah they were reefing by the book and enforcing it out there... no leniency or obvious decision making going on. they missed a few calls too they were happening so much.

Watching this game made me not want to watch football anymore. It was pretty obvious that the refs were helping Dallas. The last straw for me was that face mask that they watched the replay and picked it up the flag. Also I would like to state Seahawks got so many PI’s that they stopped playing press coverage and that’s when Dallas really took over in the game it was sad to watch.

@timduncan5572

6 ай бұрын

yep was clearly a face mask and everyone knew it especially the Seahawks sideline

@PokeMaster03

6 ай бұрын

It's not just Dallas. The texans and jaguars game was also a game like this one where there were many flags on both sides.

@PokeMaster03

6 ай бұрын

It's been like this. The Whole season is frustrating.

@EZeast1

6 ай бұрын

@@PokeMaster03 oh I feel you on that but this game was definitely the last straw for me. Make me wonder if there is some kind of protest going on in the background or if these refs making hella money betting on these games since they not getting paid great.

Why in the world do the ref's not get called out by the NFL?? They need to call ALL the ref's into a full blown meeting by Goodell & the owners!!!

Smh the amount of calls against the Seahawks is crazy. idc if Dallas had almost the same amount but it’s the TIMING OF THESE CALLS! it was ridiculous. funny how Dallas takes the lead, and within the last 5 min no flags are thrown all of a sudden

@midori6756

6 ай бұрын

Gayboys always get bailed out 🤬

That was one of the worst officiated games I can ever remember seeing. That officiating team should be disciplined, but we all know they won’t be. They ruined that game, but they’ll just move on like nothing happen. Such BS. The NFL should be embarrassed.

Thank you Rich. The refs got paid. Vegas has spoken.

@Listman11

6 ай бұрын

Seattle covered.

@treborheminway3814

6 ай бұрын

@@Listman11 Vegas wins when Dallas wins but loses. Far more betting Dallas.

I have no skin in the game, but their were key drives where it felt like Refs were going to make sure Dallas scored...anything that was even close to being called was going to get a flag....it's become worse than Pop warner, HS and way worse then college.

@natej84

6 ай бұрын

I'm a Bengals fan and I turned this game off after the refs dragged the cowboys down the field twice and kept slowing Seattle down. I knew the cowboys would win so I stopped watching

Wagner's PI call was brutal.

@thewinstons9609

6 ай бұрын

Bih shouldn't have did it then 😂😂😂😂

@sscswimmer1

6 ай бұрын

Shouldn't have made a play? He made contact driving to the ball with his eyes on the ball. And on top of that he wasn't even early. Textbook play.

@thewinstons9609

6 ай бұрын

@sscswimmer1 shouldn't have jumped on his back b4 the ball got there

@sscswimmer1

6 ай бұрын

@@thewinstons9609 he wasn't early brother lmao

@thewinstons9609

6 ай бұрын

@@sscswimmer1 😂😂😂😂 he was mane

49ers fan. Wanted Dallas to win. But I was shocked to see several of these calls against the Shehawks. It was horrendous and made the game very difficult to watch, besides the fact that I wish both teams could have lost this game.

" We don't want to hear from them. " Rich has attended far more games than I have so he knows damn well fans are always screaming for calls no matter what.

What was even worse were all the flags that were thrown and then picked up. I remember 4 or 5 that had to be announced that there was no foul. That annoys me worse than just lots of penalties.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

Really??? You actually think that's a BAD thing???

@justin_watson1

6 ай бұрын

@@RyTrapp0 yes, it shows just how trigger happy they were. It’s bad enough how many times the game was stopped to soft penalties, it’s worse how many times the game was stopped to not call penalties.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

@@justin_watson1 If they just picked up more 'soft penalties', the game would move a lot faster...

@justin_watson1

6 ай бұрын

@@RyTrapp0 if they stop the broadcast to announce something anyways the game time stays the same

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

@@justin_watson1 If you just ignore how long it takes them to ID the player, new spot of the ball, etc., sure I guess?

The other play that influenced the outcome of the game in Dallas' favor was the sack that Dak escaped from and completed a pass for a first down. If the defense is not allowed to hit the QB then that play should have been whistled dead when Dak was in the grasp.

Looks like jerry is spending his billions on striped shirts this year 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂

@thatboyneedssomemilkholemd819

6 ай бұрын

*Jeffrey Lurie

The one that pissed me off is when they called a pi on Bobby Wagner but didn’t call one when they did it to Jaxon. Like literally the same sequence.

The sad truth is, unless you take out the human element, there will always be officiating blunders. Even as a Dallas fan, thought that Dallas got some ticky tack fouls in their favor at very key times.

@irishsage2459

6 ай бұрын

Even with all the camera angles and technology, these guys still can't get it right. Unless you chalk up "the human element" to ego and not admitting you're wrong, still seems sus. Some of these games are so lopsided in who gets calls it's incredible. There's virtually zero consistency. Play-clocks going 3 seconds over for one team while delay of game is instantly getting called for the other team...idk ...

@snerdterguson

6 ай бұрын

Seattle got those same calls though. When they occur is irrelevant. A ticky tack penalty that gets a team a TD in the second is worth exactly as many points as a ticky tack penalty that gets a team a TD in the 4th.

@tyreek.6815

6 ай бұрын

The Seahawks did too. Stop feeding into peoples narratives. It was a fairly called game

@SwayneIII

6 ай бұрын

@@snerdterguson you're silly. How many ticky-tacky PI's were called on Dallas? There were 4 in one drive, even the commentators were puzzled.

@travistotle

6 ай бұрын

The thing is, if you took out the human element, it would likely be even worse. Holding, on some level, takes place on EVERY single play of the game. You HAVE to look the other way on very minor instances of holding, interference, roughness, all that. The stuff that draws the flags is the egregious stuff. At least, it used to be. Now it seems like anything is being called, and that's where the fun comes to a screeching halt.

it's whatever. I think i'm done with football as a seahawk fan. This is every game now. Every game has a ridiculous drive where there's bs penalties converting multiple 1st downs that kills the defense down the line. The league clearly doesn't want Seattle to win when they play certain teams. I'm just done with it all, it's not worth watching when i can predict the outcomes like jsn's touchdown not standing to the chagrin of the entire broadcast team. I expect it at this juncture of my fandom, they do this every. game. to the seahawks. It's not worth watching.

@tommyjames2448

6 ай бұрын

It's so obvious. The 9ers have this and next season left in their SB window. They are a massive TV market, and Seattle got too good to quickly for the NFL to milk that SF TV market as long as they wanted, so thats why the league is working overtime to screw Seattle this season.

@PapaT79

6 ай бұрын

I was listening too, and the broadcast crew couldn’t believe it.

Completely agree with the over-refereeing last night! I have had 3 CFB games in the last three weeks where I changed the channel and didn’t go back because of the refs simply throwing flags on 1 out of 4 plays. It was no longer football in these games.

Fix was in for dallas. NFL wants them in the SB so bad I hope they don't blow the integrity of the whole league for them. I remember when the NFL was a bush league in the '70's and a huckleberry shitkicker named tex schramm ran the refs out of the GM's office of the cowboys. It was an absolute disgrace but the league felt the best thing was those markets for the advertising so the refs gave the cowboys as many chances as necessary for them to win the game.

@thatboyneedssomemilkholemd819

6 ай бұрын

So is the fix in for the Eagles as well?

@RSTBKT

6 ай бұрын

@@thatboyneedssomemilkholemd819 you cowboys fans remind me of Chevy fans. "points out something bad about the Cowboys" cowboys fans "but but the EAGLES!" "points out something bad about Chevy" "but but Ford is gay!" 😂😂

@thatboyneedssomemilkholemd819

6 ай бұрын

@@RSTBKT Am I wrong?

Seattle was robbed last night. Dallas got called in the 2nd qt, Seattle got called all game... the refs 100% influenced this game for Dallas when it was all said and done.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

*selective memory* total penalties... Seattle - 10 for 130yds Dallas - 9 for 127yds 1st downs from penalties... Seattle - 5 Dallas - 6

@shawnheenan9000

6 ай бұрын

​@@RyTrapp0If you had a brain, you would realize it matters far more WHEN the penalty was called, not just that they were both penalized. Dallas got like 4 calls in one drive to get them down the field.

@RyTrapp0

6 ай бұрын

@@shawnheenan9000 Yea dude, you don't want Seattle to get penalties called on them when the penalties that they legitimately commit are costly. You only want them called when they don't matter as much. Right. In case you missed it before... 1st downs from penalties Seattle - 5 Dallas - 6 Also, just a reminder, these were "coincidentally" the two most penalized teams in the league coming into the game. Cry me a river.

Being fined for calling out the officials tells you all you need to know.

The NFL definitely tipped the scale for the Cowboys. I dont blame them.

@SolidSnake8295

6 ай бұрын

10 penalties for 130 yards vs 9 penalties for 127 yards. The refs were equally bad for BOTH teams.

@distortedsoul27

6 ай бұрын

​@@SolidSnake8295It all depends on where and when they happened during the course of the game.

@SolidSnake8295

6 ай бұрын

@@distortedsoul27 10 penalties for 130 yards and 9 penalties for 127 yards destroys the narrative that “the refs gave the game to the Cowboys.”

@taylorgreg752

6 ай бұрын

​@@SolidSnake8295facts fam

@benjaminpeters6729

6 ай бұрын

​@@distortedsoul27yeah the seahawks got 3 first and goals from the 1 dye to penalty.

I’d be interested to hear what’s going on, communication wise, between the NFL and each officiating crews before each game. The refs have way too much control over the outcome of games.

refs have singlehandedly lost the seahawks 2 games now Rams and Cowboys To be fair, I did not expect seattle to win, but to be the better team and lose because of terrible officiating pisses me off That rams game was bad and I did not think it could get worse… I was wrong

@Ironcabbit

6 ай бұрын

That Rams game was a Blakeman game too.

@jamespark3134

6 ай бұрын

​@@Ironcabbiti mean the problem with with Seahawks is that they not help themselves with the penalties they're an easy target but i mean last night both teams were pretty bad with penalties

I like rich. Not one major sports show will mention it. This guy says the truth and is clearly not on the payroll. Much respect.

It’s so bad that every week there’s a 15-20 min compilation of bad reffing. I’d pay so much money just to see Peyton&Eli react to those

Yes!!! Thank you for saying what you did!

Its not the referees its vegas. Tell the truth rich you know better. Sports betting is a billion dollar business. You think the NFL is not going to dip their hands into that well?

@Rick-sm1oh

6 ай бұрын

Right Vegas need to make it up with loosing people on card games , not to many tables .. the house always win.. plus the economy is bad ..

@davidlawrence8051

6 ай бұрын

@@Rick-sm1oh Yup and too many people are willing to risk their money on a chance to win alot more. It's an addiction and they're taking advantage of it

@Rick-sm1oh

6 ай бұрын

@@davidlawrence8051 David .. I was one of them guys.. two years before I was hitting 400,500.. now it's one or two games being rigged. Am done.

Dallas Cowboys got the NBA caliber referees. They called interference on the Seahawks for CeeDee Lamb dropping a pass.

refs have caused at least 3 losses for the seahawks this year. both rams games (though the offense definitely struggled that first game but still, bad calls from the refs are bad calls) and this game. yes the penalties were around equal, but they took a huge TD from JSN away. had we scored that and added that extra time saved to the end of the game, we wouldn't be rushing plays, wasting downs to spike the ball. seattle does do a good job in driving the ball down on the lost drive of the game so they probably come back and win it. and as rich said, 130 penalty yards on seattle in 2/3 games. yes some are penalties, but there are some BAD calls made. multiple drive ending plays or giving the other team another chance after a 3rd/4th down stop.

The pic they pulled up with Pete "unintentionally" flippin the refs off was golden.

It's funny they talking about the officiate in Dallas but don't even speak about it in philly

Penalties that result in automatic first downs need to be reviewed automatically. If the league is worried about extending game times with constant reviews, automatic first downs need to be removed from the game. Too many calls are affecting outcomes of games.

The officiating has been so terrible this year. It has really impacted my enjoyment of the games. There have been many MANY games where I feel like the outcome of a game has been changed by bad calls. Even when it's not a late game impact penalty, the flags disrupt the flow of the game and make it horrible to watch.

The referees have figured out that they can make far more money by controlling the score than by simply working the game.

Every single call should be reviewed. Every single one.

Refs should have to answer questions after the game just like everyone else involved.... They have way too much To Do with the outcome to not.

The mistake is thinking this isn't working as planned.

I was rooting for the Seahawks and felt terrible for them. This unaccountability of the officiating is astounding and frustrating.

No more pi for receiver stopping dead and letting defender run into them for short pass

Let them play!

Sportsbooks are influencing these games folks. They advertise more than any sponsor. Keep your sponsors happy. They have succeeded.

I’m glad that my team played hard as they did and I’m glad that everyone watched what I was seeing they called a PI on Bobby but didn’t call the same thing when jsn got hit before the ball

I was thinking this same thought during the Eagles game and the flags on the center near the end of the game. Every center moves the ball every time. Why call it then? And the tackle early leg kickout that some get called for and others don't. Too many seemingly random penalties.

Wonder how many times Stonestreet texted RG during that game

“Ref-ball” has become a common term in my household

The laundry was definitely flying

“It’s the first game - let me get this one correct - in NFL history. Yeah, it’s never happened before!” - Rich Eisen, 2023

Officiating has been horrific this season. There's almost zero consistency from game to game about what a holding call should be, or OPI/DPI.

Need eyes in the sky to reverse some of these calls. I'm a Dallas fan and agree some of those Seattle penalties were a joke. BUT Ferguson for Dallas also took a head shot that wasn't called. The main problem with the Refs is too many are old dudes who just can't keep up with the game. Last night the offciating was embarassing. No game should be greatly impacted by the Zebras.

Every play should be reviewable.

Listen to Dallas fans and you’ll think this wasn’t a factor at all 😂

@suminternetsht290

6 ай бұрын

jags fans too

Pass Interference should only be a 10 yard penalty unless it’s egregious.

One drive had like 6 P.I.'s in it Now my Niners benefit greatly if the Hawks lose, but there was something ridiculous about the amount of calls. I hate to say it but it feels the Hawks were screwed. It seems like the refs were trying to ensure the Cowboys got just enough to win. One example was the Wagner P.I. on a crucial drive.

I thought I was watching the NBA! And I already quit watching that league! Thanks Rich for calling out how bad Thursday Night Flag Football was.

Seattle and Dallas are the two most undispisplined teams in the league they are 1 and 2 in penalties

At one point, it really did feel like there was a flag on every play. Its like your favorite song is playing and somebody keeps hitting the pause button.

Vegas, baby! The House never looses.

That was one of the best games Seattle has played all year. Let the players play... listen to Tom Brady, he knows what he is talking about. Stop protecting receivers so much! We don't want umpires to control the play... let them play!

I stopped watching in the middle of the third quarter. If the league does not get control of this nonsense, it will absolutely kill the sport.

I just can’t believe the NFL would put a product on the field on national TV like this game. This game looked like none of these players actually played football in their entire lives. This game was a disgrace to professional sports.