This aged like gold

@mystruth5987

Ай бұрын

Fine wine 😢

@CuriousNun

Ай бұрын

In what aspect specifically? Cause even though very insightful and introspective, what he said was apparent and obvious. So what made you say that?

@wideopenwounds

Ай бұрын

@@CuriousNun how does it being apparent and obvious to you change the fact that a statement aged well. The obviousness of something has nothing to do with how it ages.

@CuriousNun

Ай бұрын

@@wideopenwounds if that's how it works then cool, it's like saying the sun will rise tomorrow and someone coming tomorrow to say "this aged like gold" 😂

@wideopenwounds

Ай бұрын

@@CuriousNun yeah except the comparison is disingenuous at best, not all things are equally apparent. Comparing a scientific fact that the sun will rise tomorrow that all humans know, vs his comments aging well because of a beef that you didn’t see coming this year at all, nobody did, is apples and oranges.

This just makes what Kendrick did to Drake that much better 😂😂😂 💯

@edub9930

4 күн бұрын

😂😅😂 Kung Fu Kenny just cured my depression how he did that boy 😂😅

Mos was spitting triple entendre's in an interview😂😂😂

@daimarwalker262

5 ай бұрын

Nah quadruple 😂😂

@marquise7200

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@BProof

Ай бұрын

He's had them saved up after years of shit work ethic and disqualifying himself from the conversation.

@MrStruk17

Ай бұрын

He MOST DEFINITELY was🎤🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💯👑

Tupac died at 25; Illmatic dropped when Nas was 19. The lack of consciousness can’t be put down to age.

@wavyvashon444

5 ай бұрын

Real shit smh

@AndreaClinton

4 ай бұрын

It can when all you see is ass shaking & gang talk, etc.

@craighunterii8742

4 ай бұрын

I agree but Pac was still young minded in other aspects. He likely wouldn't have passed at that early age if he learned to subdue his passions

@Tman33919

4 ай бұрын

@@craighunterii8742he was stalked by the government his whole life, got put in prison for a false rape charge, he was harassed by white people on his own property, people looking through his windows, he got beat up by the police for jaywalking, he got shot 5 times and the whole world made fun of him and tried to make him out like a criminal. How do you think you would react? I would say 2Pac handled that well at 20-25. Through all that he stayed humble and still made conscious music. He had fun on certain songs, yet he still made more conscious music than not. So based on that I don’t think he was young minded. There are people in their 50’s right now who are immature.

@marquise7200

Ай бұрын

Nah Fred Hampton was 20 running a black panther branch in Chicago we kinda devolving

This aged like Pharrell 😂

@shaad4044

Ай бұрын

Pharrell Williams that is

@DashikiBraxton

Ай бұрын

@@shaad4044in other words it didn’t age at all lol

@shaad4044

Ай бұрын

@@DashikiBraxton lmao aged so well, time sat still

@REXae86

Ай бұрын

@@shaad4044 like a fine wine imported from Italy.

@sidepriest

Ай бұрын

Lmao

This aged superbly

@sanyatesGRIA

28 күн бұрын

Like Parisian wine

listening to this after Kendrick exposed the colonizer with a smile on my face...

Yasin was talking this shit in his 20s. There are young artists today who speak their mind. Never an age thing. He just doesn't respect cowards. simple

@yomrap6931

5 ай бұрын

🎯 You can tell Ice leans towards never speaking up. Mos is saying Hip-Hop should always be that voice & the biggest artist should use their platform to say something. Every album can't be all party & girl songs.

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

@@yomrap6931 We didn't put that pressure on Jay and he rarely said anything out of the norm. Why do we expect Drake to be woke let Cole and Kendrick have that lane and guys like Lupe.

@yomrap6931

5 ай бұрын

@@ihateflatbunz He said everyone should do what they're called to do & it was bigger than 1 person but even Jay has said things about social conditions in his music. For instance DJ Khaled lost my respect for not saying a word & he's Palestinian. (Doesn't have to be in the music, say something in an interview)

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

@@yomrap6931 I'm talking Jay in his prime he's just started over the last 7 or so taking stances.

@Giggsboson

5 ай бұрын

@@yomrap6931 Exactly. Also, apart from Mel or parks, who seem to educate themselves on topics other than america or the "culture", i feel like what Mos speaks to will go way over there heads. Mos is showing that he has traveled and those travels added to his being hence his appreciation of life and humans has evolved. Not just Turks and Caicos baecations

Mos Def is extremely calculated in his intentions. He knew calling out Drake would shine a very bright light on him. Thus creating a moment for his words to be heard by all. The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.

@ChaosBeforeOrder

5 ай бұрын

That's what I'm on frfr, sovereignty, having a voice...making every step, and breathe I take a slap in the face to those wanting to participate in the oppressors games

@anu-blisselshabazz2676

Ай бұрын

Easy this comment gave me chills. This is how I live life in this realm. Because it is so evil here...

@jashanestone

15 күн бұрын

This was before Drake 😂😂

Yasiin was on his James Baldwin flow

@JordanClemons

15 күн бұрын

Criminally Underrated comment

The irony is that Yasiin Bey wasn't focused on Drake really.

@uzoobidire2249

Ай бұрын

😂 you obviously missed it. He was asked about drake. Mos def is am MC, in new york subliminal is a norm and only smart dudes gets it.

@Msboochie2

Ай бұрын

@@uzoobidire2249You missed it, or you have serious comprehension problems.

@uzoobidire2249

Ай бұрын

@@Msboochie2 nope.i will help you understand because you have terrible comprehension problems. You didn't listen to the full interview, I did. You probably are going off of short clips from a podcast and probably don't know that drake did diss Mos Def on IG. Mos Def was asked, "is drake hiphop"? Those responses came from that question If you don't understand, ask questions and do research rather than exposing your ignorance on social media.

@bigpapamoon9712

12 күн бұрын

@@uzoobidire2249him & 200 ppl 😢

This was heat, Yasiin Bey dropped a freestyle in that interview.

Props to Joe for pointing out an important aspect to this dialogue, which is shorty truly being educated & enlightened enough to understand what Mos was putting down 💜🫡🤙🏾

@kennethrobinson5111

5 ай бұрын

T.I. has left the chat

@shrimp_boogaloo

Ай бұрын

Fuck that, he was being patronising as fuck. A fool playing his jingles over the words being said.

@uriamudeltoro5075

21 күн бұрын

Yo....I was sitting there like shorty doing fill ins as Mos was speaking....shit is golden...

Yasiin articulated what I've been feeling for a long time

@edub9930

4 күн бұрын

Humongous fax. Same 🤘

Drake is empty calories. Yasin is a founder and a major contributor to the art, and Drake took his creative medium and figured out a way to mass produce, cut corners, package it and sell it. Dude needs more respect.

Mos Def basically articulated what Dead Prez rapped about in the song Hip Hop‼️ Fire conversation 🔥

@checkarelli

5 ай бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@jacobprice8048

Ай бұрын

A beamer a Lexus or freeedom

@uriamudeltoro5075

21 күн бұрын

Justice, a song, or some substance....

The fact the comment section is littered with people talking about Drake and his beat selections and how he makes music. Completely missed what Mos Def was saying.

@columbusoking81

5 ай бұрын

Facts

@Disniqqahere

5 ай бұрын

People don’t know the difference between Hip hop or Rap and it shows.

@focuz4899

5 ай бұрын

Sleepwalkers

@SpeedBoostGamer

5 ай бұрын

Let them continue to be idiots. Maybe they’ll take the time to ACTUAL listen…this just shows how easily distracted ppl are

@IspeakFacts-wx3gv

5 ай бұрын

You ever think people don't care like that, at the end of the day it's called entertainment. People like what they like regardless if it's rap or hip hop it's all entertainment.

Coming back to this after the Kendrick battle is even deeper. Especially when understanding that the American military complex puts children and women at risk, the same way that Kendrick alleges Drake does too.

@thehumannugakareemsupreme9484

Ай бұрын

Man Kendrick full of ish. He put his wife in danger

I dead ass heard drake playing in Walmart last week😂😂

Yasiin can see the future. He foretold of these events

WOW!!! What a powerful speech from MOS!!! He caught me off guard with the truth

This aged pretty well!!

Bruh now I see why Kanye holds Mos Def to high regard. 💯

@HStalhane

5 ай бұрын

Meanwhile Kanye is Drake's consumerist twin...

@superdupeninja8149

5 ай бұрын

@@HStalhaneKanye is consumerist too

@Cackerot79

5 ай бұрын

Kanye used Mos Def and Talib to pretend to be deeper than he is. All he care about is what Louis Vuitton, Balenciaga, and some other designer is doing to not let him run their company into the ground.

@frequentiis

5 ай бұрын

that's a very GenZ thing to say, we millennials been knowing about mos def for DECADES

@jflack6

5 ай бұрын

Just now you do?

I'm glad you all discussed this because this was so much more important of a point he made than the entire Drake conversation

KZread is messy for recommending this to me 😂😂. So relevant haha.

Katt Williams said what kind of year it would be. So far its looking like a year of truth ( at least amongst our people ).

@JoeNeely

5 ай бұрын

Pray it keep going

@jflack6

5 ай бұрын

Until we show up and keep supporting this and all other poisonous bs out here.

Mos Defs Level of Consciousness is What Hip Hop Was Suppose To Be On. Every MC, Rapper, Listener etc Was Suppose To Carry intelligence At Least To Understand The Spiritual Warfare We're in or What Mos Def is Saying Cause it's Basics. Music is The Weapon And Hip-Hop Was Suppose To Be Weapon For The Culture. Now It's A Weapon Used Against The Culture. It's DUMBED DOWN.

@KAM-rl6tz

24 күн бұрын

I love this comment so much.

@martissahouston9720

10 күн бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤ wow beautiful said Dante would be proud

I remember when Bill Maher and mates tried to put down, humiliate, Mos Def. Thinking themselves more sophisticated/intelligent than him, because he was just a rapper. Time has proven the opposite was true.

@kactusJacko

5 ай бұрын

Nah, Mos.was on a few times, he just stepped in a discussion with Christpher Hitchens and was way off. It was cringe but it was a moment to realize, sometimes you're the teacher sometimes you're the student.

@viperrecords3288

4 ай бұрын

I remember watching that live and you’re right one is dead, and the other one might as well be because Bill Maher is one of the most worthless human beings alive.

@yungizzo1

29 күн бұрын

How was he off? I’m all about the hitch slap but please explain considering what his did after and lived in the region he spoke and and not from the W hotel getting information from hand picked perspectives like most westernized media. End on the day, Hitch was for GW like the 70 millions morons who not hates him cuz Jesus Dump says so

@felixd.4150

6 күн бұрын

I remember those appearances, poor Mos was out of his depth. Cornell West did his best to save Mos but it wasn't happening.

Wow, shouts out to Mos the prophet 😂😂😂

S/O to Joe for putting this on a platform

I really like hearing Bey's thoughts on the emptiness of consumerism and normalizing barbarity.

This is too much for Drake fans to comprehend

@5teveV

5 ай бұрын

That’s a fact

@emerg0n0see

4 ай бұрын

Indeed

@viperrecords3288

4 ай бұрын

Most of them are kids with a vapid mindset

Revisiting this clip, as it popped up… Mos and Kendrick should get together for a discussion… I can’t really hear them on the same track. But, love to both and more power to them and strength to each of their voice.

Mos is a different level of consciousness!

Called the man a colonist. Lmao that is wild as hell

@jameschauvet3140

20 күн бұрын

Aged like fine wine now 😂😂

Wow. This is the first time I’ve seen them actually close their mouths and listen! Having said that, this is the best clip of this podcast I’ve ever seen. 💯🙄🤐

@jflack6

5 ай бұрын

Yep, big ass, immature goofy mouths on this show.

Joe be DL loving the attack on Drake. 😂😂😂

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

Take the dl off he loves this shit.

@b.a3595

5 ай бұрын

Especially Parks.

@projectX928

5 ай бұрын

Joe for sure loving it😂😂😂

If you look at Drakes fat contract, he’s obligated to drop an album once a year and part take in two tours annually. UMG owns his image, his publishing, and his freedom when it comes to making public appearances. He is a product for the industry.

This aged well!!! 😂😂😂😂

Please add to the board *Black owned vs Black targeted* that’s a conversation that need to be had. Mos is hitting on it. Black artist can’t do their music or speak their mind through their music. They want Black artist to do mall/bubble gum music which is black targeted, like Tubi. Murdock used in living color, 21 jump street etc to make millions off the back of black shows only to create white shows off the rating then cancel the black shows. It’s a pattern of practice.

@coreycashdollaz

5 ай бұрын

This right here!!!!! 💯

He was speaking on the Empire of Hiphop also ....

I believe God is not interested in our misery, hearing that just changed my life

Mos was not wrong. But aubrey apologists scrambling to cape for their dad...its sad.

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

when he first dropped with wayne what was his music classified as pop?

Yasiin Bey (Mos Def) is very insightful and completely right in his assessment about hip hop and the socio-political state of the world. Not only one of my fav MCs but also human beings. Speak the truth until the walls of Babylon fall...

@SuperOmnicronsj44

5 ай бұрын

Drake is an industry plant and that’s ok because he still has to perform and tour … just make hit records, that’s the best “insight”

@GODHATESVANDAL

5 ай бұрын

​@@SuperOmnicronsj44if thats all you heard 😴

Over the heads of the masses!

Yasin Bey is a man of his words and he stands on what he says Hip Hop is dying, Drake is killing hip-hop and all these new artist that doesn't know real hip-hop if it bit them on their feet

Drake is pushed to be King of this genre because he upholds consumerism in its highest form. Hip Hop is a culture built on being the voice of the voiceless and rap, being the soundtrack of hiphop gave messaging... Drake messaging is safe to any and all establishment...his raps arent political, nor ideological, and when they are personal, its only pertaining to his view of his love life, family and friends. Even the King of "Pop", Michael Jackson gave us edgy political songs. All of the other important artist in music's history have giving us a time stamped opinion of society. Drake literally moves like Switzerland. He is probably the safest rapper ever to hold such dominace, you can put Drake music on and not think.

@rodneyscott5450

5 ай бұрын

Man shut up...Lil Wayne ran hip hop before Drake and Wayne was never political or spoke on important topics like that... Y'all just be looking for a reason to bash Drake 😂...

@Disniqqahere

5 ай бұрын

@@rodneyscott5450Wayne is not hip hop. Wayne is a rapper. He raps about a lifestyle like Drake/ Yall get Rap and hip hop confused. Rap is industry. Hip hop is culture. Hip hop has 5 principles that DJ, MC, Break dancing, graffiti and kick knowledge. Has wayne or Drake incorporate any of these in their Music or Videos?

@ronbattle9602

5 ай бұрын

​@@rodneyscott5450 listen to Georgia Bush by Lil Wayne and recant your statement sir. Also Tie My Hands spoke on the current state of society at that particular time. Wayne definitely spoke up, you just weren't aware.

@rodneyscott5450

5 ай бұрын

@@ronbattle9602 Okay...You found 2 records out of the thousands of songs Wayne has released 😂...

@ronbattle9602

5 ай бұрын

@@rodneyscott5450 nah I aint gone lie, the scale is definitely uneven as fuck but he did speak up about that Katrina shit that's all I'm sayin lol

Bruh Mos Def is like Yoda of the last great rappers (fallen Jedi).

@HStalhane

5 ай бұрын

So... Kanye is Dooku, Drake is Vader?

@FrancoisDressler

Ай бұрын

@@HStalhane Kanye is Obi-Wan

@josephmoore9706

Ай бұрын

​​@@FrancoisDresslerNah, Kanye is Maul after Episode 1

@kristoamadeus4441

7 күн бұрын

@@FrancoisDresslerbe fr

He was spittin bars

This was prophetic.

Prophetic.

@martissahouston9720

10 күн бұрын

And mathematical

@MotivationalMotivationUnlocked

9 күн бұрын

@@martissahouston9720 explain

He’s too deep for y’all

@rrbass82

5 ай бұрын

Shut up

@pettykingtj

5 ай бұрын

Cut it out.

@Noog6284

5 ай бұрын

This was very constructive but not that deep

@DamnImb0r3d

5 ай бұрын

I mean yeah

@jfraz1992

5 ай бұрын

No he isn’t

I wish I knew and appreciated this bro back in college. I walked by him on 47th Street in NYC years ago. He looks and exudes the same great energy now as then. The Man!!!

We need more conscience rappers, When he talks people listen .. Joe was part of that once upon a time, With Broken wings freestyle is still dope to this day...

@njinhere

5 ай бұрын

Listen to that all the time

@dajion13

5 ай бұрын

We have conscious rappers, we can’t consume our way out of this.

@Sinn3r1337

5 ай бұрын

@@dajion13 do you consume education? The only difference is substance.. That's the whole argument, One of them is junk food devoid of nutrients.. The other ones actual knowledge..

@jflack6

5 ай бұрын

And y’all won’t buy their stuff, yet again.

Prophet and the Prophecy

Revisited... the foresight

3 months ago he predicted this.

Thank you for this.

It’s good that they didn’t overlook his overall message to hyperfocus on the critique on Drake because that matters more. But not as intelligent people will only hear Drake and respond to that

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

He had to know mentioning Drake was gonna go viral and overshadow everything he said here.

@d.o.z.e.shaolin7497

5 ай бұрын

@@ihateflatbunz?? Not really. The whole interview is more important to millions who value humane issues and not worship celebrities

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

@@d.o.z.e.shaolin7497 People weren't gonna give a damn about that interview outside the Drake shade. He is talking about some real issues I wish that was the story first and foremost.

@Marcus-xu7hn

5 ай бұрын

….he didn't have to mention drake.

@IspeakFacts-wx3gv

5 ай бұрын

Only black people look at rappers as some kind of leader. Lol sad bunch.

You know this man know thyself... and I mean know know. Sovereign brother with a mind sharper than a switch 💯

Has yasin wrote any books? I could listen to him/read his words for the rest of my goddamn life most definitely…

The reckoning done reckoned

That comment that he’s 50 drake is 37. Mate he wrote my Umi say in his twenty’s. Clearly reveals more about your maturity than it does about anything else.

This man been speaking truths for decades ❤️

“We were told that America was a thing that would come and go” wow powerful and profound

@aloominknottyheadtap900

5 ай бұрын

Ehh....l guess. Depends on what replaces it. I doubt most will like it.

He is truly rapping

A lot of folks owe that man an apology.

Prophetic. If Mos would've let a few of those points breathe, this would've landed on more people I think. He didn't leave any room for the average person to process any one of his points lol it's like he wasn't having a conversation, he was just spilling thought.

This is what I DIG! Deep talk. That's the real talk for me.

Mighty Mos is the truth…..

Look at Mos being a prophet 🤣

Mos ❤ giving love knowledge 📚and jewels 💎

I lost it when they started singing Umi Says like Negro Spiritual or ancient hymn😂

This whole conversation makes me wish Yasiin put his music out on platforms where I could hear it.

@clopez1148

5 ай бұрын

He does. You have to pay for it exclusively.

@Warrentertainment

5 ай бұрын

@@clopez1148 you're talking about the Black Star album that eventually came out on Bandcamp a year later that you had to pay for monthly on that subscription app. I'm talking about his album he had playing at the Brooklyn Museum in December of 2019. For "one month only." I wish I could have gotten to hear that project, people said it was pretty good.

@Ginga

5 ай бұрын

Three of his first albums (four if you count Black Star) are available to be streamed. It’s just “The Ecstatic” and “No Fear of Time” that aren’t.

@Red5ive

Ай бұрын

We need the ecstatic back on streaming

So many bars

MOS DEF LEGENDARY SINCE DAY 1.

Him describing the views photoshoot Is so funny

Mos def talking levels

If he can put this in song form it'd be a certified hit

@fayettevillan1

5 ай бұрын

Nah bro! It would never make the radio! People do not want to hear this! If "RESPIRATION" aint a hit....I don't know what these other eardrums process!

@theflyent7106

5 ай бұрын

@@fayettevillan1 doesn't have to make the radio, KZread sir

@contentovercommaz4754

5 ай бұрын

​@@theflyent7106agreed, I think the old way of thinking when it comes to hits needs to revamped. I think hits can exist outside of Radio play and billboard top tens, fr fr.

@contentovercommaz4754

5 ай бұрын

​@@fayettevillan1I get the cynicism man fr. Consciousness has always been seen as incompatible with "mainstream" rap success, but I do believe there is a lane he can thrive in and do numbers.

@jflack6

5 ай бұрын

It would not be a hit, do you hear the “hits”? Are they full of knowledge and are prophetic? Or are they “Hey, I just met you, this is crazy”?

He was right!

Why is everyones legs crossed 😂

All of them shaking their head in agreement to the Mass Bay colony comment is priceless!!! Mighty Mos waaaay over their head and they are just going along with "Big Words"..LMAO

@GoldSkye

5 ай бұрын

😅

Pure genius!!

Gotdamn, this aged well

Welp. Here we are 😂

I just want to say, rap did not start out being this deep, introspective thing…. It transformed into that during the 80s, as a reflection of the times… but at its beginning, it was a party genre…. Everything doesn’t have to be DEEP…..

@williamk6605

5 ай бұрын

Shut up.

@Kuliothecreator

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

@greaterthanharrowk1679

5 ай бұрын

The issue isn't simply lack of depth in messaging, it's creating "art" that's solely designed to sell well without necessarily producing value.

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

Its evolved even further in the 50 years.

@jfraz1992

5 ай бұрын

EXACTLY

Mos Def mentioning Unilever explains what he’s really saying. Listen to the intro to Burna Boy’s song, “Another Story” and how it explains Unilever colonizing Nigeria as a business deal for the British. All we know of Unilever is that they sell Dove soap and Axe bodyspray and ice cream sandwiches. In other words, when you allowing your voice to be controlled by the corporations you get in bed with… you don’t know what you REALLY in bed with. It’s not a bad thing to have corporate partners, but, can you do the partnership AND call them to task? Can you stand strong and speak truth - at great risk to yourself and your money?? There are emcees who did it. Ice Cube. JayZ. Nas. But then there are those who never said not a word… the Drake, Ja Rule, Nelly types. Even 50 Cent, who famously was praising George Bush as like him. Lil Wayne, Young Thug, Souljah Boy.. the “thank god for slavery” crew.

YES !!!!!! MOS/YAASIN !!!!! Intelligent conversation that will go over so many people's heads

Mos def Called it

There are still people who draw their inspiration from Malcolm, from the Panthers, from Marcus Garvey and anti-colonialist struggle. We dont fall for the "black capitalism", getting a piece of the white mans cake, getting a chance to play the part of the oppressor. We listened to Dead Prez, Mos Def, KRS-1. Drake music is good for dancing, but if you have a soul you long for something deeper. People power ✊🏿

I can listen to him all day. He is telling the truth.

I've always said why am I gonna listen to someone brag about what I don't have.?

It’s funny cause it is true. I realized this by Summer Sixteen and the hype on Twitter, his Radio Show/Venture with Apple. This guy doesn’t talk about anything important. His is basically monetizing ‘mood’. You could have learned financial literacy instead of just waiting and listening to his releases

@Beamken

5 ай бұрын

After his project with future I didn’t really care for him, I don’t get how people are mad at Mos when Drake is literally the most mainstream artists ever

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

I Dont wanna hear Drake rapping like Kendrick lamar i have Lupe for that we dont ask Jay z to be 2pac.

@jfraz1992

5 ай бұрын

Then listen to other artists then

@ihateflatbunz

5 ай бұрын

@@jfraz1992 They won't they will try and force others to make their form of music.

@tmitche9

5 ай бұрын

@@jfraz1992you can listen to other music and still give critique

Lmao everybody is not breathing proper on this clip 😂 Yasin been dropping gems thru features with Navy Blue, J.I.D

Mos def was out here at Paris fashion show around them folks

@ibalance925

5 ай бұрын

yeah supporting a black owned label. Ya know, generating and recycling black wealth.

@Atribecalledsuccess

5 ай бұрын

He’s a hypocrite according to his statements played in this video

@will4us

5 ай бұрын

He was out there not rapping luxury hip hop which is Yasin’s point ❤

Mos called it like an omen…aged like fine wine 🍷

Flip nods his head even tho he doesnt know whats being said🤣🤣🤣

Joe is a real one for digging in to what Mos really meant. Drake fans are children!!

Next level cookery

Drake fans are the same fans who would listen to Taylor Swift. These are not hardcore hiphop fans. They dont get it. They dont get the cultural distinction.