The REAL War on Christmas - The Plum Pudding Riots - English History - Extra History
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@danielsantiagourtado3430
5 ай бұрын
Love your content guys!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@also_arles
5 ай бұрын
A lovely holiday special, and it gave an interesting look into the insane events that frequently seem to unfold because of the holidays! Happy holidays!
@SydneyJeffers-kl6kc
5 ай бұрын
You got 3 million subscribers 🎆
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
@@also_arles A Holidy wouldn't be a Holiday without something insane happening.
@InDeepPudding
5 ай бұрын
It's literally rebranded TV dinners
I had a feeling this would be a referrence to the Puritans. "People so uptight the British KICKED THEM OUT!"--Robin Williams
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
good guess!
@Toonrick12
5 ай бұрын
The literal "NO FUN ALLOWED" type of people.
@jamesbodnarchuk3322
5 ай бұрын
Socks & sandals type?😊
@julianshepherd2038
5 ай бұрын
Puritans left of their own accord because they did not like Christmas and tolerating Catholics. It was all too woke for them.
@thebluemarauder
5 ай бұрын
@@jamesbodnarchuk3322Nah, sandals would be too revealing for them.
Always love it when people point out that the Pilgrims were not fleeing religious persecution the way we think of it - they were trying to found their own Jerusalem, where only puritans would be allowed. And forcing their beliefs down everyone's throats was kind of their thing.
@ecurewitz
5 ай бұрын
And not just any Putitans, but separatists at that
@thephone7504
5 ай бұрын
I mean I wasn't there so I would'nt know but wasn't that around the time of the queen bloody Mary???
@BardovBacchus
5 ай бұрын
Ye should be workin. If'n ye nay be workin, ye best be prayin. If'n ye nay be workin, nor prayin, then ye be sinnin! and bound for hell fire by the grace of God!
@eldorados_lost_searcher
5 ай бұрын
@@BardovBacchus "Get thee to the local magistrate of the shire that thou reside. And remember, thou art a wretched sinner, unworthy of God's love."
@BardovBacchus
5 ай бұрын
Atun-Shei, @@eldorados_lost_searcher..?
I think that H.L. Mencken said it best, "A Puritan was someone who lived in perpetual fear that somewhere someone else was enjoying themselves."
The Puritan war on Christmas was part of their general war on fun.
@Darkgun231
5 ай бұрын
They were a dull and dreary lot.
@Dreagostini
5 ай бұрын
@@Darkgun231 They still are.
@shibasaurus322
5 ай бұрын
Part of their century or so long temper tantrum. Fun Fact Dr Seuss’s “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” is actually a story about the most tolerant and whimsical Puritan to ever exist.
@aquamarinerose5405
4 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of a longer, more serious video essay somewhere on the concept of Protestant Ethic and how it basically, literally thinks that anything that you do that's not explicitly for the glorification of God is pointless and anti-christian. Which is an idea the Puritans took to heart in the extreme.
@Attaxalotl
Ай бұрын
@@shibasaurus322 Objection! The Grinch learned to have fun in the end!
Fun fact: the banning of Christmas is the basis of the drinking song “The World Turned Upside-Down”, which got turned into a British marching song that they played at the Yorktown surrender
@safaiaryu12
5 ай бұрын
And now Hamilton is stuck in my head again, thank you
@andrewcyes2049
20 күн бұрын
Which has nothing to do with a protest song on similar age sometimes called "The World Turned Upside Down", normally called "The Diggers Song". The Diggers and Levellers are a fascinating movement, an early communal one which arose in opposition to the Enclosure Of The Commons, which us well worth an episode or two
The true war on Christmas is being waged by corporations bombarding us with Christmas ads and decorations for three months. As a result the magic of the holidays is slowly, slowly dying due to oversaturation. I wish Christmas was kept to December only so it really feels special again.
@safaiaryu12
5 ай бұрын
Yeah. I celebrate Christmas and don't want to hear Christmas music before, like, December 20. It's ridiculous. And very capitalistic.
@MastaDJMax
5 ай бұрын
@@safaiaryu12 'pushy' is another word Id use. And I wouldn't mind listening to Christmas songs for the entirety of December if there were more than 4 or 5 of them total...
@gradipadia9800
5 ай бұрын
Filipinos starting the Christmas season on September ending on either Jenuary or Febuary: 👁👄👁
@lolmanboss
4 ай бұрын
In Austria we Banned any Christmas Items before November. Only Exceptions are things that can be asociated with Saint Nicholas. They put it in place, because in 2017, they went bonkers with christmas starting in September. One radio DJ of a major radio station even played "Last christmas" for 38 hour straight to prove this is madness. He locked himself into the studio and baricaded it. He kept his job and the Goverment passed a law that banned the selling and marketing of christmas goods outside of November and December.
Latin America and the Phillipines had a completely opposite history with Christmas, it's not just one day; its a whole season of festivities. In Mexico it begins since Advent with "Las Posadas" and then comes Nochebuena or "Good Night" (Christmas Eve), then a less formal Thanksgiving like party on Christmas Day. Then more revelry in New Years (in Mexico they follow the Spanish custom of eating 13 grapes, each for each month of the year plus one, at midnight) and also cider is preferred in many homes to Champagne. Then comes the "Rosca de Reyes" or fruit glazed round cake and then the children get their presents. And last on Candlemass (La Candelaria) you feast on Tamales of all flavors, colors and sizes and then finally its over.
@jamesholbrook3648
5 ай бұрын
I would be so down for that👍🏻
@Jaime_garcia-
5 ай бұрын
Always fun with my people during this time.
@EvTheBadConlanger
5 ай бұрын
@@inusocials6295I’m trying to learn more about my Filipino side. Could you tell me what a Filipino Christmas traditions include? I’m very curious (genuine)
@KasumiRINA
15 күн бұрын
It's nice that you have such a nice tradition instead of the absolute destruction that we had here in Eastern Europe with messed up calendars and bad attempts at secularization.
I'm surprised Netflix hasn't made a film about this yet💀
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
It would make a great holiday film! 😂
@GreekV1nce
5 ай бұрын
@@extrahistory True though😂
@GreekV1nce
5 ай бұрын
@@rachel_sj That sounds nice. I'll check it out
Not-so-fun fact: The Puritans (and some other Dissenters, but IIRC not all) were opposed to a lot of other stuff that qualified as 'fun' at the time, even things that did a lot less damage than Medieval English Christmases. For example, the desire to ban bear-baiting, not because it was violent, nor the harm it did to animals, but because the spectators enjoyed it, even when they weren't gambling.
Medieval Christmas sounds fucking lit...minus the drunk carolers breaking into my house I guess.
Christmas is winning so much? That in the US it has eaten Thanksgiving and is gnawing on Halloween.
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@safaiaryu12
5 ай бұрын
Correct!
@CaiRobinson
5 ай бұрын
Why do you think we celebrate thanksgiving in October in Canada?
@thephone7504
5 ай бұрын
By real believers or by the corporations? It's dieing to over saturation and overexposure.
@k1productions87
2 ай бұрын
The "War Against Christmas" is literally the fight to stop Christmas' continued hostile advance across the calendar. Without that war... you know damned well they would encroach upon the entire year, stopping only for Independence Day, cuz the only thing they love more than Christmas is the flag. ... and guns.
How appropriate and festive. After all, Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without Mrs. Baddeley's plum pudding!
@LangThoughts
5 ай бұрын
AT4W Viewer or just a Whovian?
@gemgem396
5 ай бұрын
Both
Ah, Puritans. The people who feared that someone, somewhere, was having amy amount of fun.
Two major things that be pointed out 1)- The Pilgrims were NOT Puritans. The Plymouth colony was eventually subsumed by the Massachusetts Bay colony, yes, but the Pilgrims were a separate Dissenter denomination and specifically fled to the Netherlands to avoid Puritan purges of other Dissenter groups during Cromwell's regime. Thats a pretty important error in the video that should be corrected, 2)- Catholics had once repressed Puritans yes, but this was far from a one way street. In fact the coalition that strove to overthrow Cromwell specifically included Catholics, Anglicans, and Dissenters of all stripes due to the Puritans attacking all other forms of expressing Christianity, and later political cross-denomination political alliances such as the Jacobites find in their origins in said alliance. In addition, the Puritans were explicitly genocidal of ethnic minorities for even tangential associations with other denominations & faiths. Their pogroms against Jews are the most well-known example, but their racial & ethnic genocides of Irish and Romani people (in spite of conversions to Protestantism) were very much under the pretext of their associations with Catholicism and non-Puritan Christian practice, rather than just racism as is commonly misunderstood (although that certainly played a factor as well).
@talideon
5 ай бұрын
Yep, that definitely has to go in a Lies video, because all that had a huge effect on Ireland and subsequently the US.
@catdogfan732
5 ай бұрын
Didn’t the Mayflower land in America in 1620 and Cromwell didn’t come to power until 1653?
"They don't celebrate Easter in the bible." Don't most non-English languages call it passover which is like... celebrated in the NT. Granted not in its modern form and far closer to its original Jewish tradition (because at that point it basically was). Then again Puritans are like... insane.
@timothystamm3200
5 ай бұрын
@cg4259 well here I am to correct you depending on the Gospel, Jesus either died the first day of Passover or the day before on the day of preparation. So Easter and Passover cross over a little bit except they don't because they're all celebrated based on when the Hebrew Calendar Month of Nisan starts. That is determined by when the full moon is sighted after the vernal equinox. The Julian, Gregorian, and Hebrew Calendars all have different ways of determining that. So, it rarely lines up that Eastern Orthodox, nor the Western Churches Easters exactly line up, nor that Passover occurs at the same time because they each use one of those calendars. Eastern Rite uses Julian, Western Rite and Protestants use Gregorian, and Jewish holidays follow the Hebrew Calendar.
@pdan4
5 ай бұрын
I think what the video meant was, like, the current celebrations of Easter - with the bunny and eggs and flowers and so on.
I've always wanted this to be covered more. Like you said in the video, for all the "War on Christmas" stuff we here nowadays, it's hilarious that most people aren't aware of the actual war on Christmas that occurred in history and more hilariously that it was waged by certain Christians. History is full of irony I suppose.
@Dreagostini
5 ай бұрын
It's projection if anything.
@k1productions87
2 ай бұрын
The war against Christmas is to stop its hostile advance across the entire calendar The current front lines of that war is Halloween... and some places have already maneuvered around it, putting out Christmas Stuff the day after Independence Day. And then you got Hobby Lobby who has a permanent Christmas section all year round. In a way,... Christmas is already engaging in a war of figurative genocide. The only day immune to their attacks is Independence Day itself, cuz the only thing they love more than Christmas is the flag.
Laughing my head off over that picture of Bob Parr (AKA Mr. Incredible) sitting in his cubicle at his soul-sucking job at Insuricare. Perfect! Just perfect!
"The Puritans..." say no more.
@alexandersturnn4530
5 ай бұрын
Also known as 'The Biggest Buzzkills in History'.
Christmas started this war by crossing the borders of other holidays. It has almost completely conquered Thanksgiving. It is making serious inroads against Halloween. And, has even gone as far as to make attacks against the 4tth of July. I refuse to end hostilities until it withdraws back into its own borders.
@k1productions87
2 ай бұрын
the 4th of July is really the only holiday that is essentially immune. Cuz you know, the only thing they love more than Christmas is the American Flag. ... and guns
Yoinking and boinking is an all time line.
From what I've heard about British Christmases, things have not changed much since the holiday was relegalized.
the saturnalia comparisons already fit but make so much more sense with the medieval traditons
Fun fact: When the Netherlands turned more and more puritan in it's younger years, all saints days started getting banned, EXCEPT sinterklaas (our version of the saint Nickolas bit of modern christmas) The government wanted to ban it, but they feared riots and protests would get too out of hand, so they allowed it (I do wonder if these British riots had something to do with that) To this day, the Netherlands has some of the fewest hollidays in all of western europe
I tell people this history all the time when they bring up a war on Christmas. I’m glad your covering this
A very happy holidays to all!
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
Happy Holidays!
Modern Conservatives: They are taking away our Christmas! The horror!!! Ancient Puritans: They are celebrating Christmas! The horror!!!
@k1productions87
2 ай бұрын
In actuality, Christmas is taking away every other holiday BUT Christmas. And Easter, of course. You know if they had their way, the Christmas season would begin on July 5th and officially end at Easter, but only for a slow transition into several months of "AMERICA... F*CK YEAH!!!" then back into Christmas.
The moment I heard the word 'football', I knew things were gonna get even more nuts.
Ah the puritans the ultimate kill joy. Thank for the for those cool Quakers.
@M.E.ANDHistory
5 ай бұрын
Yes, Puritans were the ultimate buzzkills.
If a Puritan saw a modern Christmas celebration like at Rockefeller Center or a display at a mall, they would probably start screaming and then never stop.
@LangThoughts
5 ай бұрын
And that the holiday of Thanksgiving has been created out of their history, AND that it's the beginning of the Xmas Season......
@peggyliepmann5248
5 ай бұрын
@@LangThoughts Oh geez, imagine finding out about Halloween!
Been here since 6 years and I just want to thank you guys for always having a series for everything I needed to learn either for school or out of boredom
@cinderbunnie
5 ай бұрын
As have i! This channel is what got me into history!
@WileyGunslinger
5 ай бұрын
If you like spin on your history it’s an awesome channel for sure. 👍🏼 If you want real history generally get as close to the source as possible. I.E. read actual excerpts from journals of ppl like George Washington.
Wait, are you telling me that I’m not supposed to get extremely drunk on Christmas?
@slevinchannel7589
4 ай бұрын
Hbomberguy covered this
Medieval Christmas seems absolutely lit.
So Christmas used to be the purge? That is metal.
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
5 ай бұрын
It was more like Halloween meets St. Patrick's Day, cranked up to 11. Everyone getting drunk and rowdy in the streets, dressing up, acting crazy, playing pranks, etc... Then again, it is 12 straight days of partying and drunken debauchery. Maybe we should bring Medieval Christmas back.
Really, really funny that my US Catholic elementary school taught me the pilgrims came here for "religious freedom," and not ONLY does it turn out that the "freedom" was freedom from watching others practice their own beliefs and traditions *cough* but that apparently WE were the problem. On the other hand, I completely relate to wanting to go to the other side of the world to get away from noise.
@IdiotandOpinion
5 ай бұрын
Freedom can also mean “free to be a misery guts that everyone hates”!
@tz8785
5 ай бұрын
There is a reason why the concepts of positive and negative freedom of religion exist. With a religion claiming universal validity, positive freedom of religion can be very oppressive.
Sounds like SantaCon is trying to bring back Medieval Christmas lol
Hey folks! I hope you all have an AWESOME Christmas and a wonderful New Year! ~Brianna
It's starting to become a holiday tradition of ours to just do mostly snacky stuff like those saucy little weiners, cheese and meat platters and a veggie tray and just hang out doing something playing playing cards against humanity or guestures. Just a good time laughing at each other's cards or ridiculous actions trying to get people to guess what it is.
@ferretyluv
5 ай бұрын
Playing parlor games is actually a very Victorian Christmas.
@thehowlinggamer5784
5 ай бұрын
@@ferretyluv We used to play poker. But once covid hit, doing something like Gestures and Cards Against Humanity just helped us cope with not being together for 3 years in a row. We just needed a good laugh and it's continued ever since.
I live in mass and never new of this, they never taught this in school thanks!
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
Anytime!
@chedelirio6984
5 ай бұрын
"We don't talk about THAT 😬..."
British Medieval Christmas Sounded Awesome. Bring that back!!!
howdy from the Patreon crowd, Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone who sees this!
@jesenjin8467
5 ай бұрын
Helloto Undertale. May you be merry and happy, and have as few lvls as possible.
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
🎄
You know, I always thought the whole 'Christmas is cancelled' thing was just made up for children shows and movies...only to find out that (thanks to this video) Christmas DID get CANCELLED at one point in history!
@k1productions87
2 ай бұрын
One thing those asinine children's shows refuse to ask themselves is,... how the hell could Christmas be cancelled when it has already taken over Thanksgiving, and is trying to overtake Halloween?
Being Puritan always sounds miserable.
@M.E.ANDHistory
5 ай бұрын
Ya think? They were a bunch of buzzkills!
Merry Christmas! Thanks Saint Nicholas and Klaus to bring joy around the world!
@dragoninthewest1
5 ай бұрын
Who's Mary Christmas? Merry Christmas, my dude.
@NightspeakerR
5 ай бұрын
@@dragoninthewest1 Autocorrected to Mary lol
@dragoninthewest1
5 ай бұрын
@NightspeakerR Frakking auto correct, lol. Have a festive time. Although I can imagine someone thinking Mary Christmas is the Virgin Mary's real name.
@NightspeakerR
5 ай бұрын
@@dragoninthewest1 True, but nonetheless have a good Christmas 🤙✨🎁
I just love how some of the raucous celebrations inspired other Christmases. Japan got hookups, Peru got brawls and WW1 got football.
The war on Christmas will continue until it ceases its illegal occupation of November and its invasion of October! :P
Worth thinking about - The ones currently complaining about a "War on Christmas" are the very ones whose Spiritual Ancestors Banned Christmas.... Consistency?
i just imagined a swat team rushing someone singing carols lol
Can we go back to medieval Christmas cause tons of alcohol and being out of hand for 12 days sounds like a kick ass party
@malogibeaux4946
5 ай бұрын
Is there anything stopping you from getting drunk outside for christmas?
@artornis606
5 ай бұрын
@@malogibeaux4946 the law lol
@malogibeaux4946
5 ай бұрын
@@artornis606 gawdamit. Well maybe you can do it in a field in the middle of north dakota but that's less fun
PANR has tuned in. Hope your holidays are going well, friend.
@extrahistory
5 ай бұрын
PANR! Thanks for watching, have an amazing holiday season!
You scared me so much when you said you were not going to do the dishes until new years eve😢
Well I'd say I support a truly traditional Christmas. 12 days of riots, drinking, and drag!
4:55 And as some of you likely know thanks to anime and manga, in Japan Christmas Eve is basically Valentine's Day two months early (or 10 months late)
@Toonrick12
5 ай бұрын
And where on December 25th, they feast on KFC. No, really.
@safaiaryu12
5 ай бұрын
@@Toonrick12 You know... I need to see if there's a KFC open on Christmas day... I could totally incorporate that into my festivities. 😋
I can’t wait for your series on “ Oliver Cromwell “
@M.E.ANDHistory
5 ай бұрын
Ah, Cromwell, the King of Puritan buzzkills...
Happy holidays guys! Wish you all the Best 🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅🎄🎄🎄❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Merry Christmas Thankyou for all your work this year Love everything you do
I found the title very disrespectful. I've lost years, friends and good friends in War on Christmas. Saying it wasn't real insults memory of all who fought and gave their lives trying to end Christmas.
@malogibeaux4946
5 ай бұрын
I want to know more about the Grinch's elite squad.
@martinsriber7760
5 ай бұрын
@@malogibeaux4946 I am afraid that's classified.
Interesting topic! Makes you want to look back and see what other Christmas time concepts and ideas could have other meanings. Like Scrooge in a Christmas Carol could have had some inspiration from the Puritans and Calvinist.
@M.E.ANDHistory
5 ай бұрын
Wonder where the inspiration from the Grinch came from.
Christmas was basically The Purge lol
Puritans being puritans The founders of America, everyone
Thanks for another fascinating historical tale. Happy holidays.
Christmas seems like the Purge Lite.
Man, Christmas is so fucking metal.
Oh my....that Reindeer pose you guys did. Whoever is the artist for that moment, you knew what you were doing.
You guys always make My day! You're the Best!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Have a merry christmas extra credits team!
After the line "Feasts and Beasts," my partner commented "early Furries." I found this too amusing not to share.
My Protestant ancestors persecuted you if you said merry Christmas. My present Protestant relations will boycott you if you don’t say merry Christmas
I love your guys vids, most of all the christmas ones
So much about Christmas makes sense now...
Thank you! Good job guys!
Santa’s built like Potemkin in this episode
As a Protestant christian, I don't mind celebrating Christmas or that it is now being a secularised holiday. Sure, greedy companies taking advantage of this holiday does suck but having friends of different beliefs or no beliefs celebrate it together is just fun and wholesome.
No one can stop other people from having their own beliefs, but at the same time no one can stop people from having fun either. So it was always going to be a lose-lose situation when it comes to Christmas. So you either compromise so continue to fight a losing battle. I'm glad compromising worked out
Now how can we go about restoring the medieval Christmas festivities in the present day?
@Mcfunface
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. These guys knew how to party!
A funny little video by Atun-Shei (Whitchfinder General Vvarre on Christmas) also touches on the subject from the Puritan perspective ;)
The spinning globe at 3:20 bugs me. It looks like the continents are just sliding left to right instead of rotating around.
This was very enlightening.
"A peasant would dress up like royalty and give nonsensical orders everyone had to follow." Damn. That fits so well with a fantasy culture I've been writing about lately. I'm gonna yoink that. >.>
Happy Christmas everyoneone!!!! 🎅🎄🎁
Was expecting a shoutout to Nixon going against xmas lights
Happy holidays!
Bring back the 12 day Christmas!
My country has a 5% Cristian population and is a focal point of the Abraham's religions and still is flooded with Christmas decorations. Have a good Christmas, anyone who celebrates it
“If the person that you sing to can’t provide the Wassaale you are entitled to their credit card and piiiin number Love and joy unto you! Unless you can’t provide the wassale Then sever financial penalties on yoooou” -MST3K
"Really, really, really ,really drunk" *Me on Christmas day 6 cans in and half a bottle of Bailey's & Kraken with the same again to go* "Yeah.......could you picture it?"
Good video, I just merely have one quibble. Christmas and Saturnalia have nothing to do with each other. It's a common misconception, but it's a misconception none the less. Christmas is dated as it is due to the Annunciation, which is dated due to Easter, which is dated due to Passover.
@timothystamm3200
5 ай бұрын
Yeah then why did some of the traditions that he mentioned the Puritans trying to kill sound almost exactly like Saturnalia. The King of Misrule is almost one to one with the Saturnalia King. See Historia Civilis for more about what Saturnalia looked like.
@erraticonteuse
5 ай бұрын
The important thing for this video is the Puritans believed it did.
@koolmckool7039
5 ай бұрын
@@erraticonteuse Fair point.
@koolmckool7039
5 ай бұрын
@@PhilipK635 You realize how general you made both sound, right? Thanksgiving involves feasting, drinking, and merriment as well, but I'm pretty sure no one would tell me that Thanksgiving copied one of the other two. Furthermore, happening in December isn't really evidence. Saturnalia for a lot of its history was celebrated on the 17th of December. Christmas, when it got its later date when Christians pinned down when they thought the Annunciation occurred, always took place on the 25th when popularly celebrated.
@koolmckool7039
5 ай бұрын
@@PhilipK635 And in Russia Christmas happens on Jan 7.
Really interesting
As a jewish atheist, I celebrate christmas... and any religious holiday that gives me an excuse to relax / have fun. It's the only good aspect of religions.
The people who claim there's a war on Christmas were the ones who banned it in the first place.
Happy Honda Days, everyone!
6:01 The legislature using a budget crisis to demand unrelated, unpopular laws from the executive? I'm sure glad that's no longer a problem!
I WANT THIS Christmas
I love this
The only “war on Christmas” end I’ll accept, it’s done. Loved learning about this.
While the puritans may have believed it, Christmas traditions like Christmas Trees and yule logs do not have a pagan origin. Religion for Breakfast has some great videos debunking the memes about Christmas being 90% pagan.
@lysanamcmillan7972
5 ай бұрын
I've seen it in other spaces, too. Like how Dec 25 was Jesus' birthday because someone decided the Annunciation was Mar 25. The belief amongst early Christians in Rome was that perfect people were born precisely nine months after their conception. And this was in Rome, second century CE, by a man named Hippolytus. Roman Christians in the second century CE knew jack-all about the Gaulish or Nordic traditions. They didn't care about Mithras, either. The greenery on the walls of houses is real enough. Pretty much anything from the period of evangelization and conversion that coincides with winter solstice traditions are 100% due to the fact the priests tried to end the hold of older ways on the population and failed. At best, they judged some of it "mostly harmless."
7:13 ...and was met by an unruly crowd of 500 people, determined to make the season merry and bright.
@boredtolife323
4 ай бұрын
They descended.
Awesome
Can we go back to the medieval version of Christmas celebration? It sounds chaotic, which is my kinda thing
The Lord of misrule stuff actually sound really fun