I'm old enough to remember the moon landing. I hope I'm young enough to watch a Mars landing.

@markdekleva6922

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I've been wishing that for years. Cheers. Best of health to both of us

@coconutsnacks1811

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanr72 your not wrong but we really don't know the impact of other weighted bodies for longer periods of time. If traveling to mars takes between 4-7 months maybe 8 then our bodies can survive that, it depends on how the Martian gravity effects our body. Will Mars gravity after 1 1/2 to 2 years of stay allow our bodies to survive the 4-7/8 months journey back. I'd say yes we can do it. Though your not wrong, we need faster vehicles and especially artifical gravity for a more comfortable journey and to keep our body in shape. Many ideas have been shown by others using starship, and for all we know, Elon and SpaceX have thought of a concept for it, wouldn't be surprised.

@stevoplex

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. I was 5 when Apollo 11 landed. At the time, I thought we'd go to Mars by the time I grew up. "I'm too old to die young and too young to die now " -Warren Zevon

@ShaunHaddrill

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanr72 how about using exoskeletons to help recover from loss of strength and bone density?

@peterblair6489

Жыл бұрын

Shit, I thought I was old. Sorry, but I don't think you're likely to see it. Returning to the moon though. I'm hoping to see that. Ten years maybe.

Im 51 and loved space all my life, cant get enough. This was a great show you made

When I was in school, I remember science books talking about sending people to Mars, but it always seemed more like a fantasy, or at most, something much, MUCH further in the future. It's so cool to me that there are people, RIGHT NOW, seriously trying to get there within my lifetime. Regardless of when or if it does, I respect the drive and passion behind it.

@Shadowdaddy87

2 жыл бұрын

My 3rd or 4th greatest fear in life is the horror of witnessing that passion die through discouragement.

@robertberger8981

2 жыл бұрын

Do you remember in the hight of Nazi power Every thing seems possible. The design of the rockets of llan Musk give.me Chivers I feel the scientist of Ilan are inspired by the spirite of can do of the Nazis or the English west Indian company who possessed a private army and delivered opium to China

@josephooi6424

2 жыл бұрын

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@stevenorcutt2099

2 жыл бұрын

It's the lamest idea, and a total waste of time and resources!! It puts all life on Earth at risk to catastrophic end due to solar storms at a time of deminishing magnetic protection. A solar CME could set us back to stone ages overnight. Any people on Mars are going to need a constant flow of supplies from Earth... And that will end abruptly leaving them with no escape

@audriuspetrikas883

2 жыл бұрын

This is how a robot can explore Mars. a man can go out to see the harvest grow unless

12:09 ERROR! Not Curiosity rover but Perseverance rover is collecting samples to send back to earth.

@distantthunder12ck55

2 жыл бұрын

There were several errors in it. I noticed that one and also he keeps calling Mars an "extra terrestrial planet" when it is not, it is one of the four terrestrial planets in our solar system. Also, he said Mars' gravity is 35% that of Earth's when it is actually 38%.

@Marc_Gagne

2 жыл бұрын

@@distantthunder12ck55 Don't like channels that don't properly research the subject. I've un-subscribed from this channel. There are plenty of dedicated KZreadrs on this platform.

@Laura-S196

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marc_Gagne Please recommend some other channels. Thank you.

@Marc_Gagne

2 жыл бұрын

@@Laura-S196 LabPadre , NASASpaceflight , Everyday Astronaut , RGV Aerial Photography , The Angry Astronaut , The Tesla Space , Ellie in Space , SpaceX Pink , What about it? ,

@Laura-S196

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marc_Gagne Thank you

Watching The Expanse on prime video and watching your channel makes me really think how close to reality we move every day to matching science fiction. Unfortunately born too early to see much of this come to fruition but man this is amazing

@ClutchJunk

2 жыл бұрын

No matter when you're born you're always going to miss out on the next advancements, whatever they are in since no one lives forever.

@re1v3r

Жыл бұрын

Ya, Team Mars!!! LESGOOOO

Once the Starship makes it to Mars Orbit, we need to NOT try the "suicide dive" method of landing (aerodynamic braking before swinging to a vertical propulsive landing). That method is being proposed only because it saves on fuel. INSTEAD, what we need to do is land the Starship on Phobos and refuel there. That's right: Use Phobos for a fuel depot. THEN the Starship will have all the fuel it needs to land propulsively like the falcon 9 booster does now. All good wishes.

@vladimirchernikov4249

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a space expert and so it was easy for me to forget about those martian moons. Isn't there another one called Deimos?

@MikoDnst

Жыл бұрын

@@vladimirchernikov4249 yes, it is

Good article. One correction - the sample rover on Mars, to which you referred, is Perseverance, not Curiosity. Curiosity is the older rover that’s been there for a few years.

This is the second time you've used the term 'interstellar' when referring to things of an interplanetary nature. Mars is not an interstellar body from our point of view. Interplanetary = used when referring to multiple planets within a single star system. i.e: travel between Earth and Mars = interplanetary travel. Interstellar = multiple objects that each exist in DIFFERENT star systems, but within the same galactic system. Could also refer to two different star systems that exist in different galaxies, although technically these are also intergalactic objects, and therefore it is more accurate/descriptive to refer to them as such. Intergalactic = multiple objects that each exist in different galaxies, or objects that exist outside of a galactic system (for instance, most nebulae don't exist within a galaxy and are therefore intergalactic objects). Please strive to achieve accuracy and correctness in your terminology, it matters.

Landing a Starship on Mars will be magnitudes harder than launching a space craft from the surface of Mars.

@1701_FyldeFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. No pre prepared square and levelled landing pad on Mars for Musks ridiculously shaped starship.

@user-pi4cf6fj7b

2 жыл бұрын

there is no evidence, (other than Musk's words, which shouldn'tbe taken as gospel) that the Starship program is truly designed for Mars🧐

@la7dfa

2 жыл бұрын

There will be a lot of supply missions before any humans will go.

"That's why Elon Musk is so obsessed with Mars" I just imagined Elon waking up at night going like "AH! MAAARS! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARSSSS!"

I find it interesting that no one ever talks about the most important “fact” of all. This being that any/all future Martian settlers will also require the ability to manufacture their own electronics and hardware systems to ensure they can independently maintain, replace, and produce the systems required to transform ice into hydrogen (for fuel) and most importantly oxygen (to breathe, among so very many other necessities). Shipping the first few generations of equipment from earth is one thing, but then taking the leap (via self-manufacturing) to true independence will be a few hundred years. Can you imagine the stranglehold earth will have on “any” external colony? Or what some corrupt, or inherently evil politicians, or corporate oligarchs would have over such an fledgling establishment? It will literally be hundreds of years before any Martian colony, or other external solar colony will achieve true independence. Even then, the transition will likely be violent and difficult. Maybe, if one day there are orbital-manufacturing facilities in space, or even within the asteroid belt, this will happen, but now we are talking about systems that can self-repair and be programmed to produce everything you could possibly need for a space-based economy. As a side-note, you’d likely want the ability to defend it or hide it, as one small tactical-nuke would wipeout tens of thousands, if not a few million colonists, should their fragile supply chain be eliminated. This is now getting into the realm of complete science-fiction (and I stress the “fiction” part here). Anyway, the human race will never be multi-planetary until the capabilities exist to independently and externally (from earth) produce or manufacture anything a colony could possibly need to survive. We are at least 300-500 years away from this (maybe a thousand) unless some magical new technologies arise to upset the existing metrics. Just my thoughts.

@danmosby7980

2 жыл бұрын

Space Orbiting SHIELD (SOS) The two majopr issues with space travel and mars is radiation and atmoshere loss. How much thought has gone into protecting the Mars atmosphere and inhabitants with a Huge magnetic sheild in orbit around Mars shielding it from the sun and radiation. That would be easier than digging tunnel or living in volcanoes. Then the planet is accessible.

@56redgreen

2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of movies and books about mars, independence, conflict with earth, etc. they are stories and nobody knows what that future would look like. But why would earth care what happens on mars ?

@alexandervlaescu9901

2 жыл бұрын

You are assuming that space factories are impossible to made with our technology. This I found to be false. Manufacturing things in space is easier than manufacturing things on Earth. Gravity and atmosphere are two things that make manufacturing harder. Gravity is more about things where error margins are extremely small. Contamination is another thing that makes production of various things on Earth harder or more expensive or nearly impossible. Space factories don't need artificial gravity. So the only real obstacle is starting the cycle. We would need a spaceship (not a rocket) that can mine asteroids while to some degrees seperating the resources on its own. A spaceship/station that can process said resources to a basic and easily usable form. A spaceship (preferably) or station that can manufacture other spaceships or space stations. A habitat in space doesn't need for all of it to possess artificial gravity but only the areas where humans will rest or gravity is necessary. In that case factories and storage areas most likely don't need to occupy precious areas that have artifical gravity. The start probably will be with a spaceship that can mine and process resources. The second spaceship will need to be able to construct other spaceships. In that case 3rd printers and bots will be crucial. Let's not forget the need of a power source. Solar aint gonna cut it. Wind well its useless. So our only realiable power source is nuclear reactors. So we need to figure that out if we want space factories. In my opinion your hundreds of years time line is pretty skewed. Of course I am assuming that there is a will for space factories and asteroid mining. If the big boys don't want that , they we aren't getting them. So depending if there is a will or not you might correct or wrong.

@ufo2go

2 жыл бұрын

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@bobdeverell

2 жыл бұрын

Average Joe, don't agree on your manufacturing point. In fact many devices will be far easier to produce than on Earth. Mars seems to have the necessary raw materials and I cannot think of any product or device that could not be made by printers. i.e. The initial supply chain could be quickly eliminated. However you missed an key issue. Humans cannot to live in a low gravity environment for more than a short time and there is no obvious solution for static gravity today. Without a solution we will need genetically modified humans to survive any real colonization.

@9:50 the three engines on Starship will be 3 vacuum engines. Sea-level engines won't cut it on mars or space. Way too inefficient at that pressure.

Nice video pointing out some important considerations. Supporting large colonies will be very tricky, mostly in the sustainable basics of life categories, until we have a very reliable supply chain. If they can access sufficient water, and grow large enough volumes of food, in spite of typical agriculture challenges, then they should be ok. Fuel and building supplies seem relatively easy to create on planet. Managing exposure to radiation also seems pretty easy. It's very reasonable to assume that there will be some loss of life, as with any long distance colony.

@knowles4242

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we

@richardlumleysmith2843

2 жыл бұрын

Sabotage /use of AI to ensure mission failure!. Musk keeps on announcing new products - like World's fastest computer - what a surprise for USA and China who invest billions on Quantum computers which have extremely limited use!. Musk is a huge distraction to stop Americans from realising USA is collapsing despite 6 trillion US dollars injection into USA economy that is stuck with Banks but boosts GDP of USA. Civil war is next to reduce commitments to Americans like Pensions /Health /security Police etc.! Elite control all the US dollars and could honour all USA commitments but as a recent Stage play title put it "can pay won't pay"!. Says it all!.

@javierderivero9299

2 жыл бұрын

More important than the logistics of colonization is WHY colonize Mars???....it's worthy to spend trillions of dollars in a hell hole....unless there something there that is profitable....I don't see companies or governments investing those trillion of dollars in a colonization.....exploring maybe

@rodschmidt8952

2 жыл бұрын

@@javierderivero9299 So that humanity can survive when--not if--there is an extinction event here on Earth.

@javierderivero9299

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodschmidt8952 Many people have predicted the end, the apocalypsis, the final days, the zombie invasion, etc since the begining of times (thousands years ago)......I wouldn't worry that much....when and if comes that day, we will be prepared....is not going to happen in the next 20 years

Is it possible, or even feasible to create a long enough mass driver to get a ship moving super fast before launching it into the air, then firing the boosters, to save fuel? With a long enough run up, something similar to a bullet train could theoretically get a sizeable vessel up to a pretty impressive speed using mag lev technology before launching it, and before it lost too much momentum fire the boosters, what do you think?

That is very interesting explanation very clear.... Keep going you get my support...

The term interstellar is not correct when discussing travel within our solar system. Interstellar refers to travel between stars

One huge 'but' in this video. Starbase is not building Starships. It's just putting pieces together. Pieces that I would safely assume come from around the world. From super-advanced materials that are created in highly sophisticated factories, foundries that make this type of steel, heat tiles, and thousands of other rocket components. So no, building Starbase on Mars will not give us an advantage. We need a big enough human presence in there to build very advanced supply chains on Mars. That is obviously assuming that all the required resources are present on Mars. Edit: Oh, Did I mention microchips that usually come from super ultra advanced so-called foundries that are only a few of them on Earth?

Could you make a video about mining resources and production facilities needed for that facilitates what you said about the building industry on Mars for ships in Rocky point

I like to believe there are pretty much an infinite amount of great filters from life itself evolving all the way to concurring the multiverse and beyond

@LemonsAndSalt69

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment makes no sense.

@robyn051

2 жыл бұрын

@@LemonsAndSalt69 why? there can't be more than one thing that prevents life from progressing?

@xiphactinusaudax1045

2 жыл бұрын

@@LemonsAndSalt69 He means that the concept of a "Great Filter" (as in an event or threshold a civlization has to pass/survive through in order to progress) is actually multiple "filters" such as life evolving or travelling the Universe. The idea arised as a solution to the Fermi Paradox if you're unfamiliar with the concept.

@robyn051

2 жыл бұрын

@@xiphactinusaudax1045 yes thank you!

@jeebusk

Жыл бұрын

@@robyn051 you're a great filter :)

Well written and thoughtful. This channel is definitely more than clickbait. Great job.

This will be a huge undertaking that I hope will not be given up, even if setbacks occur. But from what I've heard a lot of this, if it pans out, won't be a reality until the 2050s. By that time I will be in my 70s. One of my life wishes is that I can live long enough to see or hear it happen. Before I die I just want to know that we did something spectacular, something worth doing, beyond all the selfish nonsense we are inundated with here on Earth. I don't necessarily have to be a part of it, but I just want to see humanity do it.

@dietergould8197

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I'll be in my 90's by then... However, one area that isn't talk about is from Werner Von Braun with his idea of building an orbital space station. His calculation were spot on and we could put it to use to build even bigger rockets in space... it could also be a hub for holding supplies, as well as being a hotel... or house work crews... his dreams were very ambitious and NASA should've followed his plans... but, politics always abskewers our growth, and only operates in self interests...

An amazing video. Thank you so much!

Your videos make the future seem so hopeful and exciting. But they also make me wish I wasn't so old. :/

Energy density in fuel should be a pretty good starting point to improve the mass ratio.

10:31: Normally Wax Doll Pluto is quite cool looking similar to what we had on Dust Storm and the only they have Legoland ish tech entertainment. Usually New Yorkers go there when they don’t want to live on earth anymore.

Dope content Bro!!!

I’m sort of a fan of the “mass driver” concept though admittedly, to avoid the kind of acceleration of a rail-gun, the driver would be several miles long. Once up to orbital speed of about 7 miles per second, the railcar would release the craft, it would coast up to orbital altitude from which a much smaller rocket can then propel the craft onwards. I understand that there would be concern about atmospheric buffeting, resistance along the track. But could certainly reduce the fuel-to-lift the fuel dilemma. But I think it could launch a lot more mass into orbit electronically with lower time between launches. Could launch at night when electric load on the grid would be reduced. Overall, I don’t know why no-one since Gerard O’Neil has proposed this idea

Great video!!

Great video

Clearly the technology needed to take people to Mars has arrived. The biggest problem I see, is finding a handful of people who can maintain their sanity during the two or three years in space, and on a barren planet, far from Earth. Also, as the human body deteriorates in low gravity and constant radiation, depression, anxiety, and the sense of isolation will only increase. It sounds like a small thing, but it’s probably the biggest obstacle.

@IvanPlayStation4LiFe

2 жыл бұрын

Easy to overcome

@LemonsAndSalt69

2 жыл бұрын

IvanPlayStation4LiFe: I don’t know why you say it’s easy to overcome, there is literally no evidence that human beings can handle the psychology of space travel, with no gravity. People can survive on the space station, but that is still here at home (astronauts can see Earth), wherein a rescue can happen in a single day. Beyond Earth, there is no rescue, no relief from the alienation.

@Riteaidbob

2 жыл бұрын

@@IvanPlayStation4LiFe Yeah right genius.

The evolving 'real reason' to colonize Mars is simply to escape the FAA I think. Very interesting discussion, thanks 🙂

@la7dfa

2 жыл бұрын

And zero taxes ^^

@eabutler6861

Жыл бұрын

@@la7dfa the problem is you would probably be working for the people who sent you to mars in the first place, kinda like the early explorers. the only difference being you couldnt survive on mars without said company..... dooh.... sounds pretty grim.

the first landing, wil the starship flip or tilt? how will they create a smooth strong surface for a big rocket to land instead of sink in the ground .. its nice that they show a space trip in 3D with a whole space station on mars, but im more curious on how they will land ..

Excellent video

9:35 you should have also added that it needs 8-10 refuling flights to get to mars. Would have hammered your point 8 fold.

It's very interesting to hear and know about.

I do hope to know more about this.

This is inspiring episode. However you made one very big blunder - it is Perseverance that is collecting Martian samples not Curiosity. Love your show!

Wow all this is amazing Info

A question I keep asking myself, why is there another atmosphere when you go to space? U still see another atmosphere why shud such Happen?

Cool stuff!

Great analysis, thanks

Question- instead of needing 1k times the lift power to launch super heavy loads from earth,what about building alot of the stuff we need to bring to mars on the moon/out of the moon,& launch from there. So basically launch a bunch of ships to moon, make tons of the stuff needed for mars on & made out of the moon(regalith) then launch a few fully loaded (much heavier now) ships to mars from moon instead? So,an example-> land 20 half loaded rockets on moon, along with 10 more empty ones. Load all the stuff from the half loaded, into the empty 10,along with tons of materials that can be made on the moon.then launch the 10 super heavy fully packed rockets easily from moon surface instead of earth? Idk im not a scientist but seems like it'd work

Nice video

Hey, great video, but Mars samples are being collected by Perseverance, not Curiosity.

We need a planet with its own sun that's what we should be looking at putting money into going to explore outer planets that's where these planets exist we need a planet with its own sun

@theartofwanderlust

2 жыл бұрын

why? the Earth shares a sun with multiple planets, if it wasn't for Jupiter it is very unlikely life would have flourished on Earth

@jeebusk

Жыл бұрын

Do you have bad siblings? Do you want your own parents to yourself...

Many of the ideas presented require a steel mill and foundry be built on Mars. Pushing an iron asteroid out of space and into the Martian atmosphere is easy compared to building an enormous steel mill, foundry, and machine shop all of which require an earth-like atmosphere to function.

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

It's impossible. Industrialisation was only possible on Earth because we had fossil fuels.

Mars is the new it, earth was soooo last century ago. Can't wait to get my Martian passport.

@blameyourself4489

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for all those people to go to Mars. Hope they don't get disappointed. At least there will be more space on Earth for rest of us. And coffee.

Movies and series have space stations building and maintaining space ships. Space mining for materials and building them in space could be a possibility.

Good video, I remember Musk said he was thinking about Nuking Mars. I understand where he's coming from with that idea. I've got a better one, send Starship(s) to a ice / rocky asteroid where Starship would slowly change/push the orbital trajectory to intercept Mars orbit, depending on what the asteroid is made of you'd get the added benefit of the increase heat and mass. As for fuel the Starship would require, if the asteroids make up is ice, you'd have H2O to fuel the engine. Solar panels would provide the electricity for the fuel production.

Good one 😎

Future Mars colonists could become insanely wealthy if they focus their life work on asteroid mining. Access to the asteroid belt would be almost easy

Very great video , and very factual , just Awesome . My dream is that we become an Interplanetary species . Mars and beyond 💯

If Elon Musk wants to build huge interplanetary Spaceships he needs to build them in Space! It makes little sense to me in taking a large Rocket up and down to Planet surfaces when all you really need is a much smaller Shuttle that can take people and goods down to the surface instead.

@Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it.

2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Denley , That is fundamentally an excellent idea , but requires prepositioning of large amounts of equipment and supplies on Phobos . Staging all along the way will greatly increase the capabilities of any future Mars visitors . 😎

@daviddenley3512

2 жыл бұрын

Well that was basically the idea behind the suggestion but you put it better then I did.

@Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it.

2 жыл бұрын

@@daviddenley3512 I can say it even better ; just go to Google-Chrome , and type in : How can rocket-fuel be changed in the future ? Scroll down to the blue title-question , and click that. Then read contribution#3. *.Click 2nd from bottom .

@jeebusk

Жыл бұрын

@@Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it. Google results are different for each user, even if you don't login they vary by ip etc. It's easier to go straight to mars than to stop along the way, I'm not sure what benefit you think there is to stopping or staging.

What research have you really done on the subject of space travel and what it takes to explore the surface of other planets?

Your assuming the colony spacecraft from the movie " Don't Look Up " was launched from Earth. Well, if it was it would be launched in smaller segments, then assembled in orbit, taking many multiple launches. If the human race survives long enough ( a big if ) , large spacecraft should be constructed in orbit and the resources for said craft should be gathered from space. Sooner or later we will need to learn the importance of being much less dependent on the sink hole of Earth. After all, our end goal is to explore space, so we should learn to refine, construct and work in space. It would be cool to see you make a video on the subject of constructing large colony habitats and or spacecraft in near earth orbit.

Mars Spaceport: Less congested, inhabited and less dizzy-antated. (than I am now!!) Great idea, makes sense.... Go Elon!!

I'm all for this. I was infantry in the USMC. Do they need a security team?? Lol

Every SpaceX launch announces their Max Q event. At what velocity/altitude/time is the Martian Max Q for a Starship from its surface?

@rodschmidt8952

2 жыл бұрын

With such a thin atmosphere, it hardly matters

On mars when you call in sick too many times your gonna hear"if you can't work,your going back to earth!" Lol

love it

Great ideas! It’s frustrating knowing you’re not going to be around long enough to have the chance to work on Mars or do any other of the amazing space ideas which are right now just dreams. I’d like to come back in a second life hundreds of years in the future - maybe by being born on Mars or Titan.

this is really interesting, but there are so many obstacles that need to be overcome in order for this to become a reality. 1-landing a rocket on mars is still theoretical. 2- getting equipment to mars to build a base would require an insane amount of money. 3- no atmosphere, no air, and deadly radiation, would make living on mars a nightmare living mostly in the space ship. building any structures on mars would be a death sentence. we are so far off from this becoming a reality. but its fun to dream

Wonder if its possible to lower air pressure around the vessel artificially. Could also use giant weather balloons to lift the vehicle into the upper atmosphere.

@leonardgibney2997

2 жыл бұрын

We've got enough weather balloons already.

@dustysdesk

Жыл бұрын

Definately thinking outside the box.

Build a Starship in sections, launch sections on heavy rockets and assemble in orbit. That type of Starship, could be a cargo spacecraft, to only be used for sending passengers and cargo between Earth, Moon and Mars, but no ability to land on the planets, just orbit, unload on Gateway stations and reload cargo from Mars, to go back to Earth.

Not sure if it is correct I always understood Venus atmosphere much more pressure than earth

Great video as usual!! But if we want a low gravity environment to build big spaceships why not start with the moon? It would have a much better supply chain connection with respect to Earth.

@ufo2go

2 жыл бұрын

🧑‍🍳As the proprietor of 🌜SHACKLETON BASE CAFETERIA🌛 I invite you for a complementary Enceladus Burger. 🍔 For an 'out of this world' gourmet treat. Just across the from the landing zone in Armstrong Dome. Free fries too! 🍟 🚀GO ELON GO🚀

@rodschmidt8952

2 жыл бұрын

There are certainly people planning this.

@mikldude9376

2 жыл бұрын

Yep , and if the moon was to become a base and a supply depot , and was a re fuelling point too , it would be much nicer launching point from the moon , and saving a shit load of fuel in the process for the trip to mars surely ? And the moon is only relatively a stones throw away and easier to get the ball rolling you would think .

@tedstrauss916

2 жыл бұрын

Great video, but I agree with the writer's question - why not do this from the moon first? Everything pointed out in this video seems to bolster the argument that going to the moon would be far easier and cheaper, and could be accomplished much faster. There's far less gravity and near zero atmospheric pressure AND tons of free concentrated sunlight and even Helium-3. Has Elon set himself up to be eclipsed by China? They get it. They're not going to make this mistake. What exactly is the rationale for going all the way to Mars first? I'm perplexed.

@barry28907

Жыл бұрын

I had exactly the same thought! My guess is that it's just a more romantic concept -- to colonize a full size planet. But another thought is that the moon is still somewhat within the gravity well of Earth. Also, you don't get 'easy' access to the asteroid belt. Do Mars and the belt possess many resources that are missing from our moon?

What is a rezzorz??? Never heard of that before...

Cook,I agree with your line of though.

Soon it will be a reality how wonderful.

10:47: That’s how Wax Doll usually looks like. Quite nice.

Yes you've nailed it.

i would love to see that in my life time. I would also love to work on mars

Maybe, it would be a good idea for Elon to just put a Mars base starting out with 12 asternauts and ending with 250 astronauts for the next 30 to 40 years researching what needs to be realistically done. It -mitt that we don't have the technology to construct a Mars city with a million inhabitants until maybe the next century. For starters, construct an indoor huge hangerbay on Mars so they can work on starships for their return home. A must be if we want to fix and prep them up safely. Now, the Mars base should consist of scientist, workers assistance for everything, cooks,Drs/dentist, communications specialist, how to both plant food and maintain huge gardens, how to purify water treatment and the list gos on. Too much work must be done to just maintain such a base on Mars.

@ufo2go

2 жыл бұрын

On your way to Mars: 🧑‍🍳As the proprietor of 🌜SHACKLETON BASE CAFETERIA🌛 I invite you for a complementary Enceladus Burger. 🍔 For an 'out of this world' gourmet treat. Just across the from the landing zone in Armstrong Dome. Free fries too! 🍟 🚀GO ELON GO🚀

That word: "Interstella" means, not "between planets" but "between stars" and the nearest star to our sun is 4.25 LIGHT YEARS away. So to get there in 425 years a spaceship would need to travel at 0.01 times the speed of light = 3,000,000 m/s and carry sufficient supplies. Then there's the question of what would any humans on board do if they managed to get there? Also, human technology will have advanced by 425 years making the spaceship look like a Roman Chariot. If we want an outpost or two off of this planet then space station cities are a much better idea.

11:29: This is how the surface of my moon currently looks. 😅It was a Jelly Hawaiian place before the wax dolls decided to crash land and implode their most comfortable home Dark Saturn and splatter all over our surface. We are a Galatian Saturn looking thing right now on the surface. Water in the interior feels like water on Milky Way Pluto. Thicker than normal water.

Yes next step we get there we know what to do next

I hope there is no billy the kid, bars, gringos, cowboys and hamburger fast food up there.

These reasons are exactly why industrializing the moon is so important. Once we have lunar infrastructure in place it's gonna be so much easier to go from the moon to other places in the Solar System, including Mars.

Training at Antarctica would be a good idea. Drop in Robots to build the shelters by aircraft, see if it works.

I just heard an exchange of words in my garage between a cockroach and Marduro. The cockroach was being pressed slowly by Jupiter because he ate plastic candy instead of what cockroaches usually eat and stay away and have a place in nature as a wood and leaf decomposer under your mulching. The dying cockroach was still showing off telling the Marduro that what they were feeling was the cockroach dying the house over to somewhere.

Think of the mass that a 747 can carry in passengers, freight and the baggage of the customers. So, sing a rocket of this weight under a 747. (or on top similar to how a 747 carried the shuttle back to it's space port). Alter the wings for high altitude and likewise the engines. Fly with the rocket toward the Equator while gaining altitude to 100,000ft. Turn along the equator in the direction of rotation of the earth. Fire the rocket. Glide back to the space port and pick up a second rocket. Repeat as much as 5 times a day per mother ship.

@TheAmericanCatholic

2 жыл бұрын

A 747 isn’t going 100k feet (~30km) not even close. Launching rockets on a plane just isn’t practical.

We are still using 11th century propulsion (or whenever rockets were invented). What is really needed is some type of EM propulsion with stronger lift. Ion thrusters on steroids.

@larky368

2 жыл бұрын

Even if we could travel at the speed of light (which is impossible) there is no place to go. Nearby planets still take decades and centuries to reach and time dilation would practically defeat the purpose for all but a few fanatical explorers.

@bryanfreeman437

2 жыл бұрын

@@larky368 Wrong.

Make it so!

Cool

Thank you ginius

Starship can also use vacuum raptors to lift off from the Martian surface.

I never understand why payloads are not lifted by rail maglev such that the mass of the fuel does not have to be lifted. Surely, an escape velocity could be reached by a rail up, say, mount Everest. Also, getting the payload into orbit could be accelerated without exploding massive fuel at rocket launch. Not lifting the fuel would be a major saving, surely.

@rodschmidt8952

2 жыл бұрын

Please estimate the cost of building a rail up Mount Everest, compare it with the cost of a SpaceX rocket, and your answer will become clear.

Thanks for your observations of the extremeness of the challenge to overcome Earth's gravity with chemical propulsion, particularly for moving things to the moon or Mars that any human colony would require. The extremeness makes me wonder if we might already have other technology, such as that demonstrated by the "Tic-Tac" craft recorded by the Navy fighter pilots and widely reported upon, particularly in the last few years. In this case, could SpaceX perhaps be creating the general awareness needed, so such technological capabilities can be revealed to the general public without causing major psychological trauma, particularly for many holding very restricted science-based or religion-based views of what might be possible?

need to start sending stuff to mars before we even go (building supplies)

Will we see a virtual coffee shop where the risks of space travel begat a speculative trade in missions and

@rekording

2 жыл бұрын

...cargoes. The space trade may resemble the sea trade of sailing days with millisecond delays substituting for weeks at sea in speculations.

We need to build the Utopia Planetia shipyard, from Trek!

A martian spaceport is a inevitability If we are to survive as a species we have to go to the stars

Gold

Is there also a 26 month launch widow coming back to Earth?

I believe in order for mankind to survive we're gonna have to get off this rock. Problem is it's gonna take a lot of time and sometimes I don't know if mankind has that luxury. Just look what's going It's on around the world we are hell bound to destroy one another. If we can manage to work things out I know we won't be at Mars in my lifetime I'm in my late fifties. So I hope and hope is all we have we can make the next step.

We have to figure out how to use local resources in Space.

Wax Doll Uranus has dreaming oil painting like atmosphere and landscape. It was home of the Galatians and the most intelligent wax dolls.

I switched off at "inevitable" and "not even very difficult" lol nothing is inevitable and it certainly will be difficult. And I'm still waiting to hear one good reason for even going there at all. Just one...

to my meaning, if the atmosphere of Mars is way less dense, the engines also should have less thrust (3rd newtons law, action equals reaction), or am I wrong? e.g. the NASA engineers also had this challenge when they constructed the helicopter of perseverance and had to let the blade tip spin at a speed of up to 0.7x the speed of sound... a typical drone from earth will probably never launch at mars

@pablogrebe

2 жыл бұрын

Un helicoptero si tendria problemas porque utiliza la atmosfera para propulsarse, pero no un cohete que lleva su propio combustible. La masa que expele rinde mas y da mas empuje en una atmosfera menos densa porque hay menos resistencia.

@rodschmidt8952

2 жыл бұрын

Rockets oppose gravity. Air is just in the way. So the engines will need less thrust because there is less gravity on Mars (and the Martian atmosphere is thinner ALSO because there is less gravity on Mars).

I think the only way we will successfully reach and remain on mars is if we can build, maintain, and safely use a moon base if for no other reason is to build a Mars lander and supply ships. Mars would be a stepping stone to the asteroid belt where mining materials are easy to reach and collect. There is simply no way Earth can supply long term any base for extended time the cost would trash any hope of success. Based on what I've heard a gallon of milk even in powered form would cost well over $500 USD