Exploring The Controversy Of Mass Effect Andromeda, The Embargo, And Origin Access. ➥Join our community: / downwardthrust ➥ Twitter: / downwardthrust
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@DownwardThrust7 жыл бұрын
**There is an date error in this video:** Origin Access is 1 Year, and 1ish Month Old...Not 1ish Month Old. The news source I had initially used to verify this was incorrect. Access launched Jan 2016. Thanks to Bms for calling that out.
@A.Froster
7 жыл бұрын
Pin the Comment so everyone see this
@beyoshida
7 жыл бұрын
the difference in date pretty much negates the majority of your point.
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
It probably opens up another can of worms to be honest. If OA has under-performed up until the release of Andromeda, it's possible that the ME:A Trial itself was designed to cash in on this system, perhaps altering the way the game was designed in those first few missions. That may have been a reason to set the embargo date, even further, near the launch date.
@DillyVesper
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust embargo was set because the review scores would not get as good as previous mass effect games.
@pierrelindgren5727
7 жыл бұрын
Dilly Vesper Instead they handed it to the wild youtube and streaming expanse, where any control for containing the fallout is lost on their part. A meme like "My face is tired" can spread faster than a review from an outlet like Gamespot or IGN, doing much more damage than a lukewarm review ever could and the game is clearly not lacking in those meme-worthy moments within the confines of the trial. EA is greedy, not stupid. Perhaps they underestimated internet culture? When the British government crowd sourced a name for a polar research ship, the internet christened it "Boaty Mcboatface." Self-learning chatbot on twitter became a neo-nazi within an hour because they could. Giving something to the internet is an open invitation for them to break it in ways you never imagined. Which is good if you want to find flaws - importance of a filter for instance - less so if you want to sell something if what is offered is sub-par or 'meh' or fails to live up to hype because they'll find other ways to entertain themselves with the product.
@ZAKITASHI7 жыл бұрын
The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Game developers rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. EA is eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before EA, we are nothing. Our extinction is inevitable. EA is the end of everything. This exchange is over.
@hartlytartly
7 жыл бұрын
up you go!
@JrRodrigoS
7 жыл бұрын
ROFL Sadly this is very true.
@Paragon231
7 жыл бұрын
Sovereign, is that you?
@chucksneedlee
7 жыл бұрын
BLACK_WOLF "You exist,because we allow it,and will end,because we demand it."
@IroNobsidian
7 жыл бұрын
This shit should be the top comment.
@tauntingfrenchguard25567 жыл бұрын
When the masses love a game; the game publishers and KZreadrs love the players. When the players HATE a game, they are considered to be whinny little shits who "HATE BECAUSE OF THE SAKE OF IT".
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
Taunting French Guard I don't see it like that. I see people hating on a game with no information about the game. That is like saying that I should hate you, even though i know absolutely nothing about you. Do you see the flaw in logic there? I love this game, and yeah, i watched all the negative reviews, and to me, the common theme of those 10 hour origin access trial reviews was that the reviewers where idiots. Basing your judgement on the first 3 pages of a novel is hardly what I'd call a qualified and thurough review of a book, yet people accept that sort of review of this game. The stupidity is apparently boundless and those that are dumb enough to boycott this game based on those reviews are only causing themselves to miss out on another fun Mass Effect game.
@lgvereor
7 жыл бұрын
joe averill piss off you EA shill.
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
No Grim, the information that the pre-launch reviews were based on, was a snipit of the game itself. Ok, so the facial animations won't blow your socks off, who cares? If you play a game strictly for accuracy of animation, then your choices must be very limited indeed. Also, as a PC gamer, I haven't really found the facial animation's to be that bad. The lip syncing is mostly fine, and I haven't really had any single moment in the game that the lip movements didn't match the words being spoken. The dialog that some complained about. Are you really expecting an author to lay out the entire story in the first chapter of the book? Again, the pre-launch reviews were based on a snipit of the game, as I mentioned before, like reading the first 3 pages of a novel and saying that the novel is shit. So no, those pre-launch reviews are entirely garbage.
@MrShagification
7 жыл бұрын
There are also many people who actually just enjoy the game and think the internet needs to shut up. Play the game if you want to. Don't play it if you don't want to. Get over yourselves, and move on with your lives.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
cause that's exactly what people are doing. no one is actually playing the game because "it's EA" and "i've a couple walkthroughs and don't like" or "this doesn't feel like mass effect". how bout you go into the game with an open mind and see if you like. i reckon if you took off the EA and the ME logo "Andromeda" would be praised so much and end on most GOTY lists
@kaiathunder62697 жыл бұрын
Backlash is what these people need because they haven't learned shit from Mass Effect 3(the ending). Don't forget that Bioware is mostly known for great story games.(though it was in a way obvious that it might not live to the hype when you can see the team making Andromeda has completely changed) Andromeda lacks everything that previous games had. If I wanted to just shoot stuff with no story I would go play Doom. All the side quests are also annoying because it's basically, scan, free or save people, collect and they are so many you forget what was suppose to be happening. I can't even tell at times that I am doing a main quest at times. The only reward you get for doing side quests is viability. (basically for the ones that want the achievements and do games a 100% completion) The game is more than bad when it comes to 3A standards and the price for it is outrages. With the way it is now 20$ is more than enough or just don't buy it because this is not what we asked for in a Mass Effect game.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
take away the EA and ME logos and...TADAAA... GOTY. i don't even need to say it, you've already said it for me THIS IS NOT A MASS EFFECT GAME, does that mean it's bad though????? (the answer is no it is a fucking suberb game)
@kaiathunder6269
7 жыл бұрын
Trust me, most of us want to believe this is not a Mass Effect game. Sadly that is what it's slapped in there and what is worse, it was suppose to be a new beginning for players that have never played the trilogy and immerse themselves in the Mass Effect world. This product can put off many. This game and "superb"... yeah...no! It is between good or poor depending on the players. Personally I can't even say it is solid. I do enjoy the jetpack and the freedom in fights, using all skills, 2 hitting enemies with a sniper rifle on Insanity mode. But many times I end up trying to shoot a mob that is fused with the floor or walls. They can be killed melee but if you play on insanity you will be long gone before you can even get to them. 1 mob can destroy my vehicle within 5 sec. There is only one solid thing that deserves praise in this game and that is the scenery. Gorgeous to look at so a plus for that. It is like some said - we got an alpha product filled with glitches and bugs - few game breaking ones, horrid animation, cringe worthy dialogue, mediocre voice acting, predictable outcomes. (Still playing the game so won't say plot... yet... mediocre for the moment) The 40 mil has gone through the airlock it seems. Praising this game is insulting to many 3A games. Encouraging this will only give us more games like it and we Really don't want that. For the price it is now, it is not worth it. Mass Effect Andromeda (Deluxe Editions) from Bioware/Ea/SJW - *Shut up and give us money!*
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
i just think people aren't really appreciating it for what it is. the reason it got so much hate was because people chose to compare it to the previous mass effects. now you'd say "the previous were better" but that's because you've got this idea of what the game is "supposed" to be rather than making up your mind on it as a standalone game. as soon as i got past the 3 hour mark i started to stop thinking of it as "Mass Effect 4" and began to think of it as "Mass Effect: Andromeda" I really began enjoying it so much more and at this point i can honestly say i prefer it to the original trilogy (and i played the whole trilogy a month before the game came out so my memory is still fresh). so i urge people that want a space exploration game that will offer them a fun combat system,countless hours of single player gameplay and a decent co-op mode (that is alot like ME3) go out and buy this game. i know most people will have made up their minds right now but seriously don't skip this game just because it doesn't fit the image of the game you thought it would be I'm not defending EA, they are still greedy mothafuckas who don't deserve all the cash they're getting, but this is the entertainment industry, you wouldn't boycott a good movie because it was made by Warner Bros. why boycott a good game? (this is definitely an AAA title BTW)
@kaiathunder6269
7 жыл бұрын
You are not defending EA and they don't deserve the cash but making people buy this game now is doing just that. The boycott goes deeper than the game from the many videos I've watched and complains I've seen. The ones responsible for this train wreck should never touch big games ever again. This is a Mass Effect Universe so it is normal to compare old protagonists with new ones and their stories. And I think people compare this game with the 1st because a product and animation 10 years ago was much more alive then now. Again, Bioware is known for great story and characters that is why many of us grit our teeth through the first Mass Effect gameplay and didn't regret it in the end. Same with SW Kotor. Andromeda might have improved in gameplay but Plot and character wise the game fails to captivate many and a lot of times during the game they are wondering why they are doing this. ME:A - a game that won't make you regret leaving without knowing what happens in the end. People can easily get bored with all the shooting and grinding for materials. Buy the game now... you crazy? 60$+ for the 3A disappointment of the year. Don't be me or greek (mostly me that is regretting giving so much money for a game and a stupid space monkey... If I knew I can get a free space hamster as a pet, I wouldn't have bothered getting the deluxe edition) Wait for patches to see what are they even doing to fix the game, big sales 50% (preferably 70-80%) or don't buy because you really aren't missing anything except jetpack jumping/dash and using tech/biotic/and soldier skills at the same time combat.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
ok well i guess it's my guilty pleasure i really liked the gameplay and the story compelled me to play more (albeit very straightforward and not as well written as the previous). it does also get repetitive at points but that's what you can expect from most quest-based RPG's. i just don't understand why people HATE it so much. i haven't finished it yet so it's not the type of game to have me racing through it but the more i play it the more i can appreciate it for what it is and i'm definitely not going to "put it aside"
@Dredd.7 жыл бұрын
tldr: the game isnt shitty, just review embargo made people hate it. well heres mytwo cents, people think the game is shitty becouse the game is shitty, i find it hilarious that the two redeaming points people bring up are combat and multiplayer, you dont fucking buy ME games for multiplayer, you do it for story and immersion, witch it lacks
@SigWahrheit
7 жыл бұрын
No man, it's the haters, you don't understand. It's the fault of KZread and embargoes and the Russians somehow, I'm sure. Also players who bought the game, and those who haven't bought the game. Really just everyone other than the people responsible for the making of the game are at fault here. Game is fine dude!
@FaustSketcher
7 жыл бұрын
@Xqctax fucking thank you. So tired of people trying to justify this game so hard. The main points of Mass Effect, being story-telling and characters, is missing in this. And thats why i won't buy it. Combat looks like fun ye sure but for that i got better games out there that on top of that have better story, voice acting, and character design. Maybe if so many people think the game is bad, its because it simply is bad. And having watched hours of my friends playing it on youtube, yap it looks, and sounds bad when it comes to story, dialog and characters. All i want in an ME game.
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
FaustSketcher if you believe all of the negativity on youtube, then by all means, its your right to do so, but you are missing out on an awesome game. I finally completed my first play through of the game and the story is rich, fun, and indicative of the ME stories. Are there some minor bugs, sure, but show me a game that doesn't launch with bugs. But hey, can't please everyone. I for one am happy that I spent my money on this game and have no regrets.
@lgvereor
7 жыл бұрын
joe averill it's not awesome at all, it's a pile of shit disguised as a game, developed by multiple piles of shit disguised as developers.
@FaustSketcher
7 жыл бұрын
i don't "believe" the negativity. The game is bad, for me. I have watched quite a few hours of gameplay now. The original game wasn't stellar when it came to animations for example, and the combat was just average for a 3rd person shooter. But voice acting was in general very good, the characters were generally memorable, specially those in your party, and the story was excellent. Except for the ending of the 3rd game which was a bit of a mess but ye. From the hours i've seen of this, the main reason to play a Mass Effect game is not there. The animations are generally hideous, i can't get into conversations where characters look like... idk some weird species trying to act like a human. The eyes are all over the place, blinking is slow, only the mouth moves, no head gesturing, nor eyebrow movement most of the time, and the eyes are simply done wrong, ask any artist or designer. The line delivery is also weak in general. And some moments, CRUCIAL MOMENTS, like your father's death, are so poorly done. I have lost my father, my friend did too, I can fucking assure you thats not how people behave. The overarching story is pretty average from what I've seen so far, might get better, but I don't care. I can't get into the game if the delivery of the story is so damn bad, at least from what i expect on a Mass Effect game and tbh any game in general that supposedly should have an interesting story, considering its legacy. The gameplay is the only thing that i find interesting in the game, but i don't play mass effect for the gameplay first. And there are other games that have good gameplay, and good story/delivery. I might sound harsh but this is supposedly a pretty big franchise and some of the work is stuff even small indie studios have done better. For such a big franchise, i can't understand what were they even thinking and how this was even released as it is. If you can get over the botchered delivery and animations, thats great, but i personally can't on such a story-reliant game.
@hdaviator91817 жыл бұрын
The game has a 74 on metacritic, which is far lower than the previous games. I understand why fans are upset. It simply does not live up to the standard set by its predecessors. To say the review embargo is the actual problem with the game is ridiculous. The real problem with the game is that its developers made an average game for a series that frankly required excellence as that is what the previous game where. Excellent.
@dledman
7 жыл бұрын
Oh I think the devs knew the game lacked what was required by their deadline - hence the super late and unfair media embargo to secure as many pre sales as possible.
@MeldinX2
7 жыл бұрын
Yes it's not as good as the previous games. But to say its a bad game is far from the truth. It might not be a 9/10 AAA game but if you like RPG's and enjoyed the previous ME games then you probably will find enjoyment in Andromeda. I would give it a 7/10 or something.
@ApocGuy
7 жыл бұрын
bad' not at all, but it has failed to deliver what fans of ME expected. What is worse is, that they had enough time to polish the game and make worthy successor for original trilogy. but no, they had to rush with release, hence day1 patch, wonder how many more on the way, just to make game as it supposed to be at the release.i aint going to pay full price for half made product.Until they patch it up properly I'll stick to original Me trilogy.
@MeldinX2
7 жыл бұрын
Well i blame EA for that. They always like to rush games out and only care about some quick cash. Still i own the game and i find it pretty decent so far. It will hold me over for a couple of weeks until Persona 5 gets released atleast.
@synapse913
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry Meldin but Bioware had 5 years to hash this one out. It's entirely on them that they chose to hire people with no experience. Joke-tier animations that will provide memes for years to come Bad writing Bad voice acting Bad menus MEA is pure shit. Bioware figured they could take a dump in a box and slap the Mass Effect label on it and get away with it. I hope they're wrong.
@btbrotherton7 жыл бұрын
I don't get how so many people are acting like bad writing, bad voice acting, and bad animations aren't such a big deal in an RPG. It's a fucking RPG. What made the first two Mass Effects was the writing and the encounters you had in the game. The great story. That is why those two games were good games. If they wanted to focus on combat and put zero effort into the elements that are important in a good RPG they should have named this something else and made it in a different universe. THAT is why people are pissed. Because we're not looking for an action game, we're looking for an RPG when we play Mass Effect.
@d.f.6334
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton Nope not all of us. I started with Me2 and continued with 3 and I loved 3 a whole lot more simple because the combat felt so much better... so you see where I'm going with this right Andromeda ticked all the right boxes for me, the story is about as blant as the other 2 Games but the combat is just so much fun for me. Anyway thats just my 2 Cents on why I am having fun with the game and sorry that it is not what you were hoping for/expecting.
@bdelsouza
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton This!!! some people are simply making excuses for the game, and not even clever ones. it's just stupid.
@Plainsburner
7 жыл бұрын
I only really disliked a few lines, and all came from that same characters so I just chalked it up to a character flaw. The rest isn't amazing, but I would never really call the writing in the original trilogy great either. The only really amazing thing in the original trilogy was the characters, and how your journey affected them.
@alexnil1230
7 жыл бұрын
exactly, some people, like TB are like "but the combat is good! that's what's important!" As if people remember killing random merc no.1098 in ME2, no we remember the characters, the story and our choices, that's the important part of ME games
@trenchcoats4life891
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton I actually think this game has worse combat than Mass Effect 3. I hate the jetpack and all the bouncy jumps in this game. I feel like I am playing Titanfall.
@glacialshield15137 жыл бұрын
What I really don't understand is why, after so many rushed video games put out by EA (DA2, ME2, ME3), EA continues to push their games to release before they are ready? I know full well that it doesn't all fall onto one plate for all of the blame, but I think we can all agree that if there was more time for Mass Effect:Andromeda to be polished and more of the kinks worked out (animations, variation among races, CC, better musical score, etc), we would have been presented with a more refined game than we currently have. I love this game for all of its faults, as it brings to the table elements of combat and exploration that are amazing and the best the franchise has to offer, and not to mention the characters in this game, albeit a tad annoying at times (Cora I'm looking at you), are very loveable and relate-able and the most important of all, believe-able. Honestly, EA should be able to take a page out of Nintendo's book with regards to delaying games. The quote is something along the lines of: "A delayed game is eventually amazing, but a rushed game is bad forever". I am in no way saying ME:A is a bad game, and it certainly doesn't deserve all of the flack it is currently receiving. I'm just saying this game could have been better, and if given more of the time it deserved, could have been the best instalment in the franchise.
@revanruler6404
7 жыл бұрын
yeah the witcher 3 had a smaller team and budget and they made a masterpiece so no fucking excuse
@xyr3s
7 жыл бұрын
actually the main bioware studio was busy for 4 years working on anthem.... so Andromeda was delegated to a support team... i think CDProjektRed had more experience after 2 games than a support team that had never made an entire game before.
@irllcd13
6 жыл бұрын
EA wants all the money and they want it yesterday. Why bother spending the time making a good game over 4 years when you can rush a shitty game in 2 years and make just as much?
@st4ne4rmthevill63
5 жыл бұрын
@ColdFire no it's not. EA made Bioware focus on Anthem & regulated MAE to a smaller team with less experience & backup.
@narusakufan2097 жыл бұрын
"There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidences." - V
@CrowMercury7 жыл бұрын
I like the fact you point out how getting shady review policies for either building hype or grabbing some bucks...but I feel you try too much to depict the negative opinion as objectively wrong. They decided to hide info, to not cure the game properly, to immerse into scandals and problems, and this is the logical consequence they deserve. When " it gets good after a couple hours " became a game defense? The first thing they present to the public is problems after problems, uncured and ubresolved at launch. Andromeda deserves to fail because this cannot be the standard, the game can be on a single leg because we buy everything with a brand name. Andromeda has problems, not that bad, but has problems. The game got shunned because it's the last drop into an industry convinced this quality is ok today. And surely the only defense cannot be " it gets better later " or " they are not judging the entire full game, so they are not entitled to have an opinion". It's the producer job to reel me in, not our job to suck everything in.
@Keldiur
7 жыл бұрын
CrowMercury Thats the thing. People saying FF13 gets better 10 hours in... if I cant take a story driven game seriously in the first hour, I will stop playing and go back to another game. So yea. I got the first game for 20 bucks and got 2 and 3 release day. Will be doing the same for this game so if I dont like it, it is a meal not a bill.
@CrowMercury
7 жыл бұрын
And to think I always believed that was a joke, that no one could be so stupid to defend something with " oh, but it's good if you can use your free time that you want to expend enjoying it to get through the cringy shit. ". It wasn't a joke, sadly, someone was really that stupid. I prefer something with an amazing story and a crappy ending. Yeah, pretty much Mass Effect 3 was way more deserving than this, I only have to shut down the game after killing Marauder Shield. Here no, I have to suffer. When it became a praise and not a condemning argument, still trying to figure out.
@LoomisTook
7 жыл бұрын
CrowMercury You are so right man. There all these other games coming out made by people who seemed to care more about earning your money, why should anyone pay for this. Bioware is not running a charity or a soup kitchen.
@Suztvfan
7 жыл бұрын
I never understand the critics who say that you have to wait to get the good stuff or that say it doesn't deserve the hate because it's decent even if it has some problems especially when it is in a series that is known for quality. This is with movies, games etc. Why settle for mediocrity? Why buy something that has some obvious problems and make excuses for it instead of judging it by what it's delivering and criticizing it. I want good games, I want good movies so I am going to complain about the bad things in games otherwise they would never bother to change the quality. People who make excuses for bad media just because it's their favorite franchise (Like Batman vs. Superman, just because it has batman and superman doesn't make it great. You want a great movie for those heroes, I want to see them shine and I don't want the piece of garbage we got and let them get away with it.) like Mass Effect. We want a great Mass Effect game. We won't get it if you don't criticize the bad stuff because they know that they can get away with bad work. Vote with your wallet. Want a good Mass Effect then don't buy Andromeda because you will be just settling for mediocrity.
@LoomisTook
7 жыл бұрын
Suzanne Niemeijer Someone gets it.
@UnknownPriorityTwitch7 жыл бұрын
Criticisms of the game are now "hate" and any video that someone makes criticizing the game are "hate filled videos". Toppest of keks!
@bailaohu7819
7 жыл бұрын
Similar strategy to what sjws employ when you say it like that.....and ME4 is a sjw fest.... Huh. Go figure.
@OzOsgood7 жыл бұрын
62 hours in and loving this game. I am baffled by all the hate.
@Jordan1000
6 жыл бұрын
Oz Osgood me too!
@st4ne4rmthevill63
5 жыл бұрын
Spent 110 hours in the game. Had a great time. Combat & exploration are the best in the franchise. Could be better for sure but good for the $25 I spent on it.
@xXImikoXx7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love this game. The ONLY significant "flaw" I've seen is the facial-animations. Aside from that, it's a very big game, and it's early in the release. There's little bugs here and there-- Some enemies might get flung through a wall and get stuck. Some event-triggers may not pop up when needed, prompting you to reload. The Dialogue? Every game has some cheesy dialogue. It's NOT that bad. It isn't making me roll my eyes or cringe. It's situationally-appropriate. The combat is EXCELLENT. It doesn't get stale, the combinations of abilities and how the abilities react differently with different "profiles" makes it incredibly diverse and, coming from someone with more than 40 hours of game-play in so far, it DOES NOT become stagnant or dull or repetitive. The exploration is a bit tedious at times because of the long travel-distances on some maps, but even that is made a bit more enjoyable by the different terrains, and the controls for the Nomad. All in all, being about 38% of the way through the game so far, I'd rate it a solid 7/10.
@stickkey7 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Origin access has been there for a long time not just a month as you say. And it always offered free 10 hours trials of every games, even the new ones. You're being misleading there. Also, if somebody subscribes to it, you can cancel renewing it right away with keeping your membership active. If somebody forgets about such things then I can only imagine these people are rather dumb. I like your videos, but this one is a red flag for me.
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noting this. I made sure to correct this information in the pinned comment.
@itsJPhere
7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 10% discount you get with Origin access. Purchasing one full priced game while subscribed for a month is cheaper than not subscribing and buying the game. If you're going to buy Andromeda it's a no-brainer to also subscribe for a month if you like to try other games as well.
@darkstryder401
7 жыл бұрын
I don't like EA at all but on most of their games you have an hour or so to return the game after you have played it. Its not all of them but I know I have returned a couple. They returned it no questions asked.
@TheMagicalPinata
7 жыл бұрын
So basically the majority of the argument on this video is null an void? Well except for one, where it was that youtuber's try to make a quick buck off the hysteria. Keeping this video up knowing that a big portion of the argument is invalid... I do hope the irony is not lost... haha But I am glad he is not just hate bashing the game. I love it.
@ivangeorgiev42
7 жыл бұрын
It's not because his argument isn't based on whether OA is 1 month or 1 year old but on when the review embargo date is set, considering there's OA.
@Cbakertnc7 жыл бұрын
I think it was a culmination of a shitty job done on a AAA title with poor writing and poor mo-cap as well as having virtue signalling political undertones which pushed it over the top on the media embargo. The game had negative PR long before its release thanks to one of the DEVs being accused and rightfully so of being a racist against white people. PLenty of evidence to support that claim. The game also went through multiple different studios, and was plagued with dev issues from my understanding minus the ones I stated.
@gennarosavastano9424
7 жыл бұрын
shot in own foot for them,especially considering most of people who buy it and play are white
@Chris-ji1gi
7 жыл бұрын
I only heard about that dev a month before the game came out to be honest. and from what I've seen of it, the game tried to be like Inquisition and failed hard.
@SSeanMan
6 жыл бұрын
You're joking, right?
@geneparmesan8748
6 жыл бұрын
Philosopher Stone - I hear a lot of people complain about "racism against white people", and in a lot of cases its laughable.... but Manveer Heir (the Dev in question here) is actually, unquestionably racist toward white people. I think the "virtue signalling" is debatable, though this game came out during a hot phase immediately post-Trump election when both diversity - and opposition to perceived "forced" diversity - were huge points of contention, so it was an inevitable conversation to be subjected to.
@marcelomuniz49727 жыл бұрын
Actually The Witcher 3 is the problem IMHO, especially when you bring a new RPG to the table from now on. It doesn't matter if it's dark fantasy, futuristic or whatever, The Witcher 3 raised the bar massively creating a detailed huge world with a very amazing story-line (main and side stories), which you can cause real impact and have your own experience depending on your choices along the game. I am an example, I don't necessarily expect games as good as it and even less better, but at least very close, I expected that from Mafia 3, Final Fantasy XV, Androma and the next RPG, open world games or story telling based games launched from now on. And to be honest, none of them fulfilled my expectations so far...
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Yes this is why I made that Witcher 3 video :)
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just watched that video before and this was the first thing that came on my mind. Now I know why I'm so disappointed with Mafia 3 and it's goddamn repetitive gameplay
@clonitza
7 жыл бұрын
W3 was a bug fest for almost half an year. Gameplay (not the story) was enjoyable only when they released new game + and the first DLC.
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Mihai Micu The fact that is the most rewarded game ever made in history agrees with you.
@clonitza
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it's not one of the best games ever, I'm just saying that its release wasn't smooth either. :)
@Nagi987 жыл бұрын
...What a "classic " EA release.
@FortisBinary
7 жыл бұрын
I honestly blew up when I read that :D Thanks mate, you reminded me that ppl still know who is at fault (most of the time anyway.....)
@marieevebeaudoin3654
7 жыл бұрын
Yes we still have it
@samwayne89617 жыл бұрын
people are still pissed at mass effect 3s ending.
@ComicsLamar7 жыл бұрын
"Rushing through the game to put out a bargain bin review" Yeeeeessssss!!! Nearly every review I've seen is like this, including the bigger channels. This was an excellent video.
@BrightWulph7 жыл бұрын
Personally I liked the game, yes it has its flaws and issues (the lip-sync is what irks me the most tbh) but let's face it, MEA could have been much worse.
@filipdaniel75537 жыл бұрын
"It's because people want validation for what they believe in, regardless if they are right or wrong" - Downward Thrust
@John-vm2zi
7 жыл бұрын
As Nietzsche once said, there's no such thing as right or wrong.
@famtomerc
7 жыл бұрын
cognitive consistency: people want to search for consistencies and validations in their beliefs/behaviors and will tend to thrive to areas with other individuals who think similarly. example: /pol/,trump rallies, reddit, etc
@SarcyseTiranin
7 жыл бұрын
Nikola Tesla The statement there is no such thing as right or wrong presuposes the idea of the statment itself being right, therefor validating the concept of right thus destroying itself.
@SuperAvocadoo
7 жыл бұрын
"And all the Mass Effect fanboys found their validation here with this video, regardless if they are right or wrong"
@monkinsane
7 жыл бұрын
I loved ME 1,2,3 (OK had an issue with 3 - THE ENDING) - but ME:A - sorry i'll pass. Bioware fucked up big time.
@jakereason80957 жыл бұрын
I think many people are using this game to indirectly punish EA for their past misdeeds. I am by no means saying that EA doesn't deserve the hate (their deplorable anti-consumer behavior alone is enough to warrant it), but I do believe that some aspects of the game get a disproportional and irrational amount of hate as a result.
@irllcd13
6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but ME:A was a massive disappointment regardless of people's overraction. It's a great example of a "meh" game. Utterly unremarkable that does nothing well, a lot of things so-so, and a few things legitimately badly. ME:A was the first BioWare game that I did not want to immediately replay. And I still have had no desire to replay it. When I heard there would be no singleplayer DLC, I did not care one bit. The villains were lame, the angora or whatever those blue people are called suck, the plot is uninspired and boring, the characters are uninteresting, the writing and dialogue is laughably bad, it's buggy, and that's just right off the top of my head. And, I know it's old, but it really does have to be pointed out: Those facial animations are a travesty. The fact that they made it through to release is embarrassing.
@AndWhyAreYouHere7 жыл бұрын
The REAL Problem With Andromeda That Everybody Is Talking About? It's still a piece of shit.
@corbinbishop70977 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont understand the criticism. Especially for the glitches I have not experienced. I can think of many games that had huge success and were filled with glitches all the time. *cough* SKYRIM *cough* People are being such divas. I don't see what standard they are comparing this game to because a lot of the criticism seems to be pointing out trivial errors I have experienced in numerous other "good" games (like the original mass effect, or mass effect 2 where I was stuck floating in the air). I think the people hating on the game are just butt-hurt that they don't have a good PC or console to play it on. Also I hate the "the first mass effect had much better exploration" (it didnt) or "why is there no Garrus?" its a new game, I expect something new. People have all these criticisms like "the writings bad" and then when you ask for an example its "I dont know I havent played it" or "I cant provide a specific example". Yes its animations are wonky sometimes, but such small eccentricities have been overlooked for many other games, why are they the downfall of this game? There will always be patches and bug fixes. Sometimes you need real players to find bugs, no amount of play testing could discover all the things that can go wrong, especially in such a huge game. Just a side note, although I have heard there are all these glitches (never seen a specific example) I havent heard of anything gamebreaking.
@maximilianadang14847 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is the right place to express my opinion on this game, but since the OP of this video seems to not be outright trashing the game, I figure most people would be open to new ideas around here. Anyway. I played through the first three mass effect games right up to the launch of mass effect andromeda, and despite all the hate it got, I still bought it. One thing I notice in every review of the game is "The animations are bad, writing is mediocre, and there are glitches galore." This is true, for the most part, but people also convienently forget when the frostbite engine works perfectly in conjunction with the good animations, and we get cutscenes that look like some from the Battlefield 1 Campaign. Another problem with reviews is that they seem to imply that mass effect andromeda is worse than the first three games, sometimes outright saying that. If we ignore our nostalgia and the fact that the original trilogy had 3 whole games to build characters and their backstories, the games aren't *really* that much different. Granted, I won't comment either way on the story, since I've yet to finish it in mass effect andromeda, but the story in the first three games is probably the most generic scifi story out there. The writing in the first three mass effect games, just for the characters, is probably on par with mass effect andromeda, and had enough cringey dialogue to not make mass effect andromeda seem alone in that account. And on the subject of glitches, remember when garrus' upper body wouldn't move while his legs did in me3? Or when you would get stuck under the map by a singularity thrown by benezia in me1? Or how about the most hyped up mystery of Tali's face being a stock photo photoshop? There are countless time across the original trilogy where your companions weapons would disappear in cutscenes, and remember how your weapon was always an m8 avenger during cutscenes in me3, despite whatever weapon you had equipped? Or perhaps how everyone held a hurricane smg like a pistol in me3? Honestly, some of these are more annoying than a backwards gun in one cutscene in mass effect andromeda, or the aforementioned disappearing guns. And on top of that, mass effect andromeda has the best gameplay, multiplayer, and graphics out of all of the mass effect games, which more than makes up for its shortcomings if you compare the game to the original trilogy. My point is that if you enjoyed the original trilogy despite its shortcomings, Mass Effect Andromeda isn't a horrible game. Its just another Mass Effect Game, put in to the uncomfortable position of having to live up to overinflated hype and nostalgia, when in reality its pretty much on par technically with the other mass effect games. I commend anyone who actually reads all of this.
@logandavis3083
7 жыл бұрын
Seriously. i played me2 last night on pc during the beginning on the citadel the lady who interviews you.Her fucking arm bent backwards when she was talking on the recorder shit was creepy as fuck. But guess what after 5 seconds of laughter I went on with the game.
@IXIGamesrulesIXI
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang that's interesting considering Andromeda is my first Mass effect and I really like it too. Maybe one dar I'll go and play the Old mass effect games
@hollowkiller1011
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang real mass effect fans dont care about animations or cheesy dialogue they just care about a good story and good characters which to compared to the originals this is the worst in my opinion and yes story does get ruined time to time with those facial expressions you cant help it my ryder looked like he was orgasming when drak dropped the guy to his death like wtf that does kill it abit
@Lord_Poyo
7 жыл бұрын
If by cut-scenes you are referring to the full-detailed cut-scenes and not the in-game ones that use the 3d models, then yea, they damn well better have superb graphics and animations for those. People aren't debating about the "movie styled" cut-scenes because those are done through an entirely different way, and only account for about 10% of all the games display. People are complaining about the rest of the 90% of the game where the animations are absolutely terrible. Comparing a game to its predecessors is in absolutely NO way something wrong nor something based strictly on nostalgia. Basing something on nostalgia is to say that a game is bad because it doesn't do everything exactly that same way that its predecessor did. That's basically expecting to get an expansion of the game. In fact, comparing a game to its predecessor is the BEST way to review a game, because any sequal game should be a better version of what the previous game was, otherwise people will feel they are either getting an expansion if it is the same, or getting a crappy game if it is worse. Also, yes, the game did have 3 whole games to build characters stories, but it also had a first game. That game was Mass Effect. In this first game, they introduced new characters (oh, just like Andromeda! Would ya look at that?). The difference? Those characters were fun and interesting, because they were new creatures and just had like-able personalities. Most of these new characters seem more bland (with exceptions), not to mention that we get literally ONE NEW SPECIES IN OUR ROSTER. Yea, we get he Kett as enemies, but every new Mass Effect introduced a new enemy species , aside from the third? Well, they added Cerberus as an enemy. Anyway, yea, whole new Galaxy and a game that is supposed to revive the franchise with fresh, new adventure, new places to venture, beautiful things to see, and only one new species to buddy up with. So instead of putting on their thinking caps, they thought it would be a grand idea to simply fill our roster with old, "already had three games with" species, and one new species. Hell, they even REMOVED a species. Wtf happened to the Quarians? Did they just die off somewhere? They didn't think this would be a fantastic pilgrimage, to go to an entire new galaxy? The glitch counter is simple: So because an older, previous game has glitches, it's okay to have vast amounts of glitches in the new one? Really?
@SkankHunt007
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang The term "Jaded Gamer" often comes to my mind when I hear and read negative comments about this game.
@ryloken42977 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget about the fact that one of the leading devs on this game is a massive racist.
@YunGGenO77
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken he was a person of color, so he wasn't racist, Power + Prejudice = Racism. #ReadUp
@ryloken4297
7 жыл бұрын
MrGeney Are you joking?
@AS-hb9op
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken If you mean Manveer Heir you should know he doesnt work there anymore
@syn3rgy66
7 жыл бұрын
MrGeney Any color can be racist.
@Fatheroftearsx
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken and let's not forget people like this guy right here who want to bring their political bullshit into a game and ruin it for other people. I don't care if he's racist that's not my problem I'm a gamer not a social justice Warrior like you
@CatAtomic997 жыл бұрын
After a week of actually playing this game, I feel perfectly justified in saying it's garbage. It isn't just animations and character models, either. It's writing, game design, interface design... the entire package is flawed. I've literally never seen so much poor writing in a triple-A title. Bad writing is common, of course, but it's usually confined a specific thing-- bad characterization, or a weak plot, or bad dialogue, etc. ME:A manages to do it *all* horribly. You have boring characters navigating a derivative story presented via uninspired, phoned-in missions, and spouting awkward, cheesy dialogue as they do it. It's 32 flavors of awful. When you add terrible character models and outright embarrassingly bad animation to the mix, it becomes truly comedic. When you consider the ridiculously over-priced 'collectors' editions', and the inevitable glut of excised-from-the-main-game "DLC", it's just insulting. Bioware and EA have shown a real disregard for their customers with this game, and I don't see why anyone would make excuses for them.
@bajersilesia5516 Жыл бұрын
I didn't play Mass Effect 1-3 yet, just started with Andromeda and in my opinion the game is great, I really like everything the game offer 🙂 Well written characters, side quests which are not repetitive as in newest open world RPG games, the main story, relationships between crew, and the world! Also choices are important so, I personally recommend the game. More interesting than an example AC Origins, or Odyssey
@strongstyle1177 жыл бұрын
Honestly, highly enjoy the game as a fun of the series. Giving references to past installments as well as giving us a fresh new take
@muhammadkhairiaimran62187 жыл бұрын
MORAL OF THE STORY, JUST MAKE THE GAME GREAT, DON'T TRY TO RIP OFF GAMERS. SIMPLE, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. IF ITS GREAT THEN SURELY MANY WILL BUY, REGARDLESS ANY REVIEWS.
@carmenwillow11047 жыл бұрын
I bought the game ahead of time because I loved ME:3 which, until the crappy ending, was the best written game I'd ever played (talking story and characters here, not gameplay). ME:3 was well paced with a growing, impending feeling of doom and loss that made the final battle very meaningful. The characters, most of whom we'd grown to love over the course of three games, were extremely well-developed, deep and evolved over the course of the trilogy. When Thane had his moment, I was grief-stricken. When my Shepard went out for that final battle, I had a knot in my stomach because of how important the battle was going to be. I had a knot in my stomach with Andromeda also - but it wasn't because the story had me hooked, it was because I was tired and extremely frustrated by the puzzles within the puzzled, the FED EX quests, the meaningless "fix-it" quests and the story line that stalled out for hours of gameplay. I found my companions (with only one or two exceptions) to be extremely shallow and annoying with dialogue that suggested their emotional age to be about fourteen instead of late twenties early thirties. I found Liam's "all we are saying is give movie night a chance" crap tiresome and his loyalty quest made me want to kick him off my ship. I also saw a KZread article showing how the developers deliberately made the female Ryder ugly compared to how she looked in the Con demos and they did this in that last minute patch that we got during installation. I hated that most of the women looked like recovering meth heads, I hated that my chances to make a pretty female were very narrow. I hate that all the Asari look alike (How cliche is that?), I hate how juvenile LIam was, I hate that the only other human male you could romance had a kiss as the big scene. I hated the "go team" dialogue, and I hated the fact that just when the game started to introduce some interesting story elements - it was over. Despite all the things I hated, the game wasn't terrible - it just wasn't up to Bioware's standards particularly in the areas that are most important for their games - story and characters.
@anthonygill47956 жыл бұрын
Dude a game like Mass Effect with enormous expectations can never be defended for not living up to those expectations. You can't go and overpriced the game because they know we love it that's a No-No, and you can't make a crappy game and have us settle, no no no no! And also in this day and age you'd think Mass Effect Andromeda will completely blow everything else out of the water hands down.
@DownwardThrust7 жыл бұрын
Hey guys - hope you watch this one all the way through...takes a while for me to get to my point.
@Fatheroftearsx
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust I'm sharing this video wherever I can great review
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend! Always appreciate the shares :)
@lolblade
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust thank god you said pre order was garbage should've just had the standard edition , $20 for a gold vehicle skin and 2 armor sets, and blueprints and shitty weapons but the blueprints are nice but this is single player shit. If I paid $10 more I would've had a "multiplayer weekly bonus" lol
@somegwent901
7 жыл бұрын
I actually thought you gonna talk about the writing in the game LMAO
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Oh lord...no. :)
@CodBeeClassic7 жыл бұрын
fallout 3 and NV had the worst face animations but the stories (main and side) were amazing
@JohnSmith-ef6sv
7 жыл бұрын
Everyone called those games ugly when they came out. The issue here is the animations/writing/voice acting are worse than they were in ME3. How does a game that comes out 5 years later get worse?
@theminionator1652
7 жыл бұрын
John Doe New team and engine making a game isn't easy and animating hundreds of NPCs isn't easy either. Not defending it I hope they patch it but you know.
@Explicitghost
7 жыл бұрын
It's a completely different game from 1-3. The writing is expected to be different. FFS the writing isn't even bad, the only issue is select cringy lines out of 1,000,000.
@OverTheLineStudio7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love this game. It's storytelling can be a little weak and it's animations take a while to get used to, but it's gameplay and story pacing is probably the most fun out of all BioWare's games. I love the concept, and sense of adventure it inspires is epic. I haven't been so immersed since The Witcher 3.
@Saciachrid7 жыл бұрын
This game has had the [Fallout/No Man's Sky Effect], or, more specifically, where people over hyped the shit out of it, so much to the point where people's perspectives for the game have been falsely inflated, expecting too much that what is actually offered. Now yes, EA is partially at fault for not giving out information. However, you need to understand that coming from a person who's never played a Mass Effect game until now, and also a person who doesn't inflate their opinions and perspectives because of hype, so with that, games like Fallout 4, No Man's Sky, and now Mass Effect Andromeda are very good games, but people blow the actual negatives out of their mouths 10x worse.
@kroganbaby61637 жыл бұрын
The game is a huge step back in both gameplay and story.
@pablomorales42487 жыл бұрын
For the people who are doubting if they should buy mass effect andromeda or not I want to say that I was super worried because of all the average and bad reviews but I bought it and its a really good game, it has its flaws of course but I´ve been having a ton of fun and I would recommend you buy it no doubt
@maciejponku260
7 жыл бұрын
And that's the opinion (or even better one) of anyone who actually played the game for considerate amount of time. When someone whines about MEA, just ask them if they actually played the game, or just saw youtube videos of people whining.
@chrisleeharvey
7 жыл бұрын
I've played it extensively and when compared to the other entries, the characters and the cultures of the alien races that made them interesting have been neutered. The inability to give orders to your team members was a bad call. The combat is not as good as everyone tries to make it out to be. Multiplayer is ok, but i don't see how they are saying it's better than mass effect 3 because it's the same. The voice acting has no direction so the lines are given in an emotional vacuum with no weight behind them.
@ViolenceCity7 жыл бұрын
I am sure this will be a good game for $20 or less.
@Strawhalo
3 жыл бұрын
It is $10 on amazon
@B0BThePounder7 жыл бұрын
EA access for console not only lets you play new games early, it also gives you 42 free games, including all the previous Mass Effect games, Star Wars Battlefront, Titan Fall, and a slew of sports games. A yearly subscription is only $25, and with all the free games, it's really a tremendous value.
@lefrancoQC7 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about the fact that this game story is as bland as bland gets? I mean hell, you get to "A new galaxy" and everyone you seem to meet uses guns that look like yours. Major races seem to be mostly Humanoids... I mean, hell. How is anything in this galaxy new...
@NoOne-gg5mc
7 жыл бұрын
I've always had that problem with humanoid aliens using guns since ME1. Sorry for being blunt, but why are some people only noticing this three games later?
@yourtourguide5898
7 жыл бұрын
Well I've only played an hour so far, but I can say that if the pathfinders were heading for a specific galaxy with a planet or planets that could support human life, it's very probable that most or all of the major species their would be humanoid. I mean every race in all the other games (barring the hanar) was humanoid. It's fun to hate on things, but this complaint is really....really dumb. Plus the setting isn't the story. You say the plot is bland then you describe the setting? What? I give this comment a solid 5/7.
@popcornfilms1
7 жыл бұрын
+YourTourGuide that's a good point , there was also a theory about either Prothean or reaper meddling in the evolution of various species. I could get over it in the original mass effect trilogy for various reasons. But the lack of variety in A NEW galaxy is nothing but fucking laziness and it's a real shame. More recycled horse shit
@550077
7 жыл бұрын
"it's very probable that most or all of the major species their would be humanoid" - 99.9999 % of species on Earth are not humanoid, not even remotely...
@NoOne-gg5mc
7 жыл бұрын
It actually goes beyond technology. Concepts like religion, government, institutions and even something simple as hand gestures are far too similar to humans that it has broken my suspension of disbelief multiple times. They are the convenient aliens, a trope that has existed since Star Trek. ME:A is just staying true to their established formula.
@taylo2267 жыл бұрын
I canceled my pre-order for one simple reason. Manveer Heir and his racist comments. The fact that Bioware did not make a statement by firing him really told me that Bioware does not care about openly racist devs in there company.
@EliseoRocha
7 жыл бұрын
taylo226 I never heard about this one. It's too bad, I REALLY wouldn't have bought this game if I had. I already wish I didn't as it is.
@sebmsst8534
7 жыл бұрын
He was Fired uctually.... way before ME:A was released.
@xcaluhbration
7 жыл бұрын
taylo226 That Manvier guy isn't that bad, y'all had me thinking the worst. I say far more inflammatory things than that every day, who cares? I wish Bioware would've just kept him and said "we're not firing him just because SOME of you got butt hurt, were tired of being held hostage by language and political correctness, grow a pair and learn not everyone thinks like you". I bet people would boycott for 3 days and then lose interest and move on.
@xcaluhbration
7 жыл бұрын
SableBez 😭😭😭😭 PLOT TWIST!!!!!! That's so wild that I got the impression that a SJW was a racist cry baby from another SJW crybaby (the op). There's a lesson to be learned here I'm sure.
@LordBaronsworth
7 жыл бұрын
Wtf, sjwception, hahaha.
@mitchalibi27947 жыл бұрын
NOT the REAL problem with Andromeda.
@brainconqueror80957 жыл бұрын
You have an interesting take on this. Animation glitches such as derby mouths, tired faces, double Drack's, twin Peebees etc seem like easily fixable errors that people should call out, but not nitpick about. However this game is still dragged down by two issues that it mostly cannot fix. The first is leaving so many loose ends untied. The quarian ark should have been in the base game, not a DLC hook, Jien Garçon's murderer should have been caught, the jardaan' motivation for terraforming world's and creating the Angaara should have been given some explanation, the Scourge makers and their motivation for deploying it should have been stated. DLC and sequels should add to a complete story, not be used to complete an incomplete story. Remember how the first two games did leave you with a sense of "everything is complete here" so it is time to seek new adventures? That is missing here. The second major error is the way they have setup the explorability in what is supposedly an exploration game. Mass Effect 1 had lots of planets where you could just land on for a small side quest, explore around it and be done. Over there you really did feel like you actually visited more planets. Here, you only have about six planets you can really explore, while everything else was only surveyed, not explored. Keep those outpost and vault based planets as hubs, but without a mission or quest drawing me to each and every single star system in the cluster, it feels like there is no compelling reason to go to most of them. I got bored of endlessly scouring an already explored map just for a bunch of fetch quests.
@HalNordmann
3 жыл бұрын
1) They wanted to make DLCs and maybe a sequel, so they intentionally let a lot of plot threads loose so they would have something to build on. 2) The original plan for the game was to have procedurally generated planets (like ME1), but they had to drop that due to time constraints. So, the finished game only has a few.
@juicybrucey_53527 жыл бұрын
Is it me or are the game companies getting worse? I feel as if the only good developers are in indie games these days.
@stulego1
7 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of corporations, like originally there was a good idea there but was replaced with a company culture of "oh the customers will buy it anyways." Which is partly true but only for a while.
@Senumunu
7 жыл бұрын
big corporations eat the small ones. secure a form of monopoly because of all the capital that they can accumulate first and the quality drops since there is no "real" competition anymore. there is no way you can compete with a 8500 man team and millions of profits from games like fifa/madden and co. it is just a shitty situation that we can only fix if we unite as gamers and demand quality. no more eating all the shit up that they puke out.
@S7ARBOY
7 жыл бұрын
Yummy Pancakez have you never heard of CDProjektRed? The Witcher 3?
@stulego1
7 жыл бұрын
before witcher 3 CD projekt red was practically an indie developer.
@S7ARBOY
7 жыл бұрын
stulego1 They technically still are. But they're big enough. You call Witcher 2 an indie game? lol
@waynejacobs50927 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm really enjoying the game. I notice it's faults and animation issues, but I mostly just laugh those away, and hey, I'm still enjoying it right? I do think, however, that Andromeda's faults are highly over-embellished. If you're over-embellishing, then that's a LOT of embellishing. See what I did there? Anyway, the combat is fun and fast paced, a lot more dangerous I think than the last game. Enemies aren't so easily "gamed." Bioware also did a great job at making me really feel my character. I truly feel like like a rising star that came out of the shadows and is beginning to earn the title I inherited. The worlds are vast and unique with a lot of fun stuff to do. There are some fetch quests and cliche side missions, but I've mostly avoided those thus far, because there's plenty of meaningful and relative side-quests as well and they all tend to tie into the the greater whole of the story. Every game has it's faults, this isn't the witcher 3, but as far as sci-fi space epics go, Mass Effect still takes the top in my opinion and is STILL in the running for top 3rd person shooter with heavy rpg elements in my book. :)
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
wayne Jacobs I would like to point out that everyone defending this game essentially all end up saying the same thing. I'm starting to think that anyone defending this game are only doing so because they want to "go against the flow." Which is to say, they think their opinion will matter, because it's not said as much, around them
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
+fighterdemiter Everyone attacking the game is saying the same things too, usually some combination of "it has bugs!" (which it has, but they're nowhere near as common or as catastrophic as people claim), "the women look ugly!" (which is... definitely debatable) and just the all-purpose "SJWs ruined it!" (how? Where? They never seem to be interested in specifying that part).
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Björkman Are you serious? The bugs in this game were absolutely considered catastrophic. This game was So abhorrently bad that the company suspended progressing the storyline, on top of the fact that they didn't expect it to be that great, from the get go. This is, what I'd consider, one of the Worst games that has come out recently
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, entirely and completely seriously. What the bugs are "considered" to be by hysterical people such as your good self I cannot answer for - I can only say that objectively and to a sober observer, they're a bit annoying but nothing to get upset over.
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Björkman if you pick up the game, now that they have finally released another patch for it, I guess you could say that it's okay-ish. The graphics are still sub par but atleast now it's somewhat playable 👍
@wolfeyez7 жыл бұрын
One small critique from my part. They still have to work more on the human eyes. If you wanna have a good character model, eyes are veeeery important. Tiny movements during a conversation, shadows, tone, expressions. That's what makes Witcher 3 character models great. You have the feeling the characters are alive, thinking and feeling, and not just some 3d models.
@iamplaceholder7 жыл бұрын
Lol I thought this game was great. Ryder was hilarious, such a relief from the never ending awkwardness of Shepherd
@kaktotak82677 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the game is simply shit? KZread hype can work both ways. It is not necessarily negative. A title for a positive video can be just as clickbaity as a title for a negative video. Claiming the game suffered because people's voices were louder than the voice of the marketing machine, and that it is somehow a problem, sounds incredibly cynical and misguided.
@Zreolur
7 жыл бұрын
The game isn't bad though, it might not be as good as witcher 3 or horizon zero dawn but that doesn't mean the game isn't good. If you enjoyed the first 3 ME's then you should enjoy the new one just as much, the first 3 ME's had massive flaws as well yet were praised as the best games ever so i don't see why people think this one would be any different. After having played ME:A i decided to go back and replay ME 1-3 and TBH they didn't age well and feel like subpar games with shitty story/dialog.
@lolpauve
7 жыл бұрын
Dude, the point of the entire video was that there was uncontrolled snowballing/hatred on a game for a select few reasons from people who didn't have a complete picture of the game.
@Zreolur
7 жыл бұрын
+lolpauve +elija mikle ^this 100%, I completely agree with you on that, i also think a big problem was people still had a lot of anger from original ME 3 ending as well and wanted this game to fail.
@Solaxe
7 жыл бұрын
oh shut up the game is fun. It has some problems but it's still very enjoyable. And I was VERY sceptical
@thegrandnecroposter6782
7 жыл бұрын
Kakto Tak Have you even played the game?
@joelm75477 жыл бұрын
I like the game still playing thru!! Im having fun playing thats the point
@secretace7 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect Andromeda, the only Mass Effect game I will probably never finish. Is it bad? Yes...
@SuperAvocadoo7 жыл бұрын
The real problem is that they decided to release this game right after Nioh, RE7, Horizon, Nier Automata, and Zelda. All games that cost around the same price and that are far superior in quality. Ah, and also that have no ridiculous bugs.
@KastaRules7 жыл бұрын
You *nailed it* with your observation of how "people just seek validation for their already made up opinions." That statement applies to everything, *not* just videogames. You really need to be *open minded* to see things from another perspective.
@huneylove5
7 жыл бұрын
I agree, but at the same time, people (Especially Downward thrust) seems to use these excuses to validate why he likes it. People didn't "Dream up" problems as they are actual problems which he purposefully glosses over to blame the player base. I am all for thinking critically but he is clearly being an apologist here.
@Creohan7 жыл бұрын
Sry but the cake for the biggest game that people wanted to hate (this year) goes to For Honor. ME:A being the 4th game in the series, means it has less excuses for sucking, due to past experience. Bioware (EA) keeping ppl like Manveer Heir on this project is the REAL problem that NOBODY is talking about. Good thing that in the end he "left". But not until, the dmg was done. Have a nice day
@alsenar27 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i feel like i am the only one who isn't getting affected by all these "problems" at all. I play Video-games to have Fun. I always did. Remember TES: Oblivion? The dungeons were boring and generic as hell. The animations and basically all the characters were absolutely horrible. But it was still a masterpiece game. Or remember Dragon Age Origins? It was released 2009. GTA IV was released 2008. Now don't tell me that Origins looked good for it's time. Even Modern Warfare 2 looked better. But still...Origins is till now ONE of the best RPG's ever! So you get my Point? People are hating and criticizing games for the wrong reasons. Not always...but very often sadly nowadays.
@dreadburnz35227 жыл бұрын
Just 4 hours into the game I encountered way too many bugs and the ones that happened afterwards were even worse, game-breaking even. From getting stuck in between objects, my character suddenly walking extremely slow and doing a broken walk animation, enemies getting stuck behind walls, enemies being launched into the air after being shot ONCE, land vehicles suddenly exploding for no reason or launching into the air only to blow up after landing, getting killed during character interactions and cutscenes, clipping through the world, duplicating NPCs, bugged facial animations (as if the original ones weren't bad enough) that looked like nightmare fuel, some parts in which the lighting didn't work properly, sudden appearances of NPCs that shouldn't be there (or maybe it was just Alec haunting me, not just him appearing in T-pose for no reason), and finally, the bug that made me quit (should have done so earlier), a corrupted save. This game was an absolute mess, how anyone could defend such a broken fiasco is beyond me. I've played through all the Mass Effect games and they never had such terrible bugs and while their animations weren't so great at least they weren't as awful and awkward like in Andromeda.
@gamerdareswins28257 жыл бұрын
After 13 hours of gameplay I'm really enjoying the game.
@Corehaven227 жыл бұрын
The early slandering videos on youtube were pointing out extremely bad animation, very bad character models, and really bad, wooden cut scene animation. You portray this is a sort of slander. And say as much. However, reviews ( check metacritic ), say the same. And even though the people hadn't played the game, their assessments in the end seem accurate, compared to later reviews. Therefore it's not slander, and this video has no point. It's all gravy. Early videos of the game " slandering " the bad animations and character models were entirely accurate in what they were noticing. If this had turned out to be an amazing game? You'd have a point. The real problem with this game is people wanted a NEXT GEN really shiny Mass Effect. With a 5 year development people expected something pretty special. Or at least decent. This game does not look next gen. This game takes obvious and painful shortcuts. That's the problem with it.
@Plainsburner
7 жыл бұрын
He said those early videos were hateful, not slandering in themselves. Though he did say that led to others slandering it to make a buck. Also the dialogue is the only real problem I had with the game. The combat, environment, and overall gameplay really is state of the art. I am still wondering how they messed up so badly with dialogue animations, when the animations everywhere else are very good. I also found certain scenes where the dialogue animations were spot on, so it wasn't bad everywhere.
@Blackemperess
7 жыл бұрын
Even someone working for IGN pointed out those issues and that is *_never_* a good sign.
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Actually The Witcher 3 is the problem, especially when you bring a new RPG to the table from now on. It doesn't matter if it's dark fantasy, futuristic or whatever, The Witcher 3 raised the bar massively creating a detailed huge world with a very amazing story-line (main and side stories), which you can cause real impact and have you own experience depending on your choices along the game. I am an example, I don't necessarily expect games as good as it and even less better, but at least very close, I expected that from Mafia 3, Final Fantasy XV, Androma and the next RPG, open world games or story telling based games launched from now on. And to be honest, none of them fulfilled my expectations so far...
@besg5725
7 жыл бұрын
You do realize there is a thing called the "bandwagon" effect? Furthermore, there are entire groups of trolls dedicated to trash this game, because it offends their delicate feelings. If you, or anyone of your kind really wants objectivity, wait and check the reviews. See some footage for yourself. Mass effect 1,2,3 has always been story focused, cover based combat games. This game takes coverbased combat out, it is "open world" and so on. It has crafting. This game cannot be a 1 star game. It cannot be a below average game. At worst, its an average game. And for now, the only good thing about it is the setting and the scenery/graphics and perhaps the gameplay. It certainly qualifies as average.
@TheHikeChoseMe
7 жыл бұрын
ya he is..he's just a fan boy. you realize as consumers we have every right to expect quality in the good we buy
@2midgetsinatrenchcoat4547 жыл бұрын
I'm loving andromeda. it has its problems but it's still decently crafted and feels like a return to form for the series.
@MastaSkywalker107 жыл бұрын
Mass effect 2 Mass effect 3 Mass effect: Andromeda Mass effect (a drag to play due to age) Andromeda is not bad at all, it's actually really fun. Yes it isn't as good as the original but potential is! The legacy of the original trilogy is what brought the score down. If andromeda came out as a with not history of the original it would get great reviews. It's the Star Wars original trilogy effect! 7-8-9/10 for depends on what part of the game you're in!
@mesa1767507 жыл бұрын
I love the game. It has a very blatant wall in the game, about 5-10 hours in, where everything feels bland. But after you can over come that wall, which honestly takes about 20 hours if you are a completionist like me, you get an awesome last 45 hours of the game. The last 45 hours honestly made up for the initial wall. I was very surprised with the final loyalty missions for ME:A, where the climax of each character made me love their personalities even more. (With the exception of Cora, I still think she's bland.) All in all, the game is good. Doesn't deserve this level of criticism, but as your video suggests, they might have deserved it with their marketing strategy. We all hate EA, but love the game franchises that they own.
@thehalberdier47747 жыл бұрын
TL;DR: The narrator is a fanboy apologist that feels that the failure of Mass Effect Andromeda is the result of shifty publicity tactics taken by EA before release, and that the quick to criticize gaming "community" was simply hating for the sake of hating and personal profit. The narrator completely tosses aside the empirical fact that ME:A was downright INFESTED with bugs and poor developer choices. The narrator is trying to shift blame away from the developers (Bioware and EA-Romania) and drop the steaming pile of dog shit on the laps of their marketing departments. *The issues players took with "Mass (D)effect: SJWs in space":* The politics being involved in the company and it's employees (e.g. Manveer Heir, blatantly racist against whites on social media, specifically heterosexual white males, EA and Bioware's main consumer demographic. Forcing feminist and SJW ideologies and perspectives onto a consumer that thoroughly doesn't give a shit.) The hideousness of female characters, while at the same time making male characters look hot (Peebee looks like a orc that's been painted blue compared to Liara T'soni. Fem Ryder's face looked like complete ASS, and the don't forget the "My face is just tired" lady, with her makeup that made her look like a fuckin' clown") THE AUTISTS IN 4CHAN WERE ABLE TO MAKE MORE ATTRACTIVE CHARACTER MODELS IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES USING PHOTOSHOP. A full zergling rush worth of bugs. Everything from randomly exploding vehicles due to broken physics, to floating/trapped enemies, to teleporting mission waypoint markers, to inescapable zones that require save reloads. A shitty plot that was not enthralling and dialogue that was abundantly cringey. 'nuff said. Abysmal animations, particularly facial animations, and incredibly flat cut-scenes. This is the result of EA's decision to outsource animation and gameplay development to its Romanian branch of developers, EA Bucharest. This was also combined with the refusal of both EA and Bioware's upper-management to allow Bioware's game developers to go over and provide touch-ups to EA Bucharest's character models, as Bioware did for all the previous Mass Effect titles.
@bernardo4157
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier TIL that liking something that everyone hates makes you a fanboy
@blindeagleace3629
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier Can someone tell me what this guy is talking about? I just got done with the game last week and I thought Cora and Suvi were attractive. I personally like PeeBee free going attitude. What's SJW about this game? So far, I played it twice and I still don't get it.
@stephenseputra9897
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier still tldr
@kenji214245
7 жыл бұрын
They did a great jobb fixing bugs and smoothing out animations after the backlash. I mean game came out March 21 so that is quite a lot of time to work on it.
@captainfuture59847 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me put things into perspective again. I realized now that while the issues with Andromeda was all true, there are other good things about it that didn't get the attention simply because the trend was to hammer Andromeda with its negative points. Come 4th April Bioware will reveal its plan on fixing these issues and there is still hope that they can be fixed. Many games have trouble launch survived including Diablo 3 and FFXIV and given Andromeda only a week old, anything can still happen. Question is how bad do the fans want it to work? as opposed to people who don't.
@GeorgeG907 жыл бұрын
i havent played mass effect games in years..... when i go back , i ll make sure to start and finish andromeda whatever people say. It is still one of the best space rpg latest release.
@GeorgeG90
7 жыл бұрын
fell free to reply and tell me a beter single player space experience except star wars and dead space series. I m open to try other suggestions.
@H0DLTHED0R7 жыл бұрын
too many bugs. horrible voice acting & script.
@grannydeg9728
6 жыл бұрын
TMSKILZ did you even play it? The voice acting was mostky damn good
@SvenTviking
6 жыл бұрын
When I got it, there were no, as in Zero, zilch, nada, none, bugs or glitches. As for the script and writing, it was much the same as the firsts ME trilogy. It was just fashion to slag off the writing. A hatchet job was done on the game by the Fanboys.
@Teeb2023
6 жыл бұрын
"too many bugs" Nonsense. Some bugs, yes. No different than any other game.
@LNJuggernaut
5 жыл бұрын
The bugs that were there were fixed in patches and the voice acting was great
@jarvy2517 жыл бұрын
The real problem with Andromeda was Mass Effect 3. Unlike what seems to be the consensus, I thought ME3 was trash from start to finish. There is a distinct decline in quality of exploration, writing, and characters from 1-3, and unless I saw anything significantly improved in the promotional material, not buying Andromeda, and encouraging my friends to not buy Andromeda, was going to be my petty revenge for ME3. Bioware just made it too easy to mock with squat, hobbit-proportioned character models (How do you screw that up?) to inhuman faces, to hilarious animations. The writing clearly continues it's downward spiral with awful dialogue and clearly no understanding (or flippant disregard) of the established lore. I hope Andromeda tanks hard commercially and either kills the franchise for good, or spurs on a real Mass Effect Game.
@Soldierjason1
7 жыл бұрын
It's not Bioware's fault you stupid idiot. EA was putting the rush on Bioware to get the game out the door. Another thing is that reviewers are glorified whiny brats who deserve to sit on a shotgun and when they hear a click the ride is over. More or less these people whine about every little fault a game has rather than honestly posting that while cutscene animation is bad and some missions are unresponsive the overall storyline and combat is better than Mass Whining 3.
@TheRealGimmle7 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you say in the video, however, I think the biggest issue for ME:A is not the animation problems or the lack of consistency with ME lore. The problem is amount of game breaking bugs that are out there, I for one got to a point far into the game where the game is so broken I need to restart the whole thing (80+ hours in). and there are so many people out there that have the same problem THAT is why ME:A is getting so much hate, and the silence from the devs / EA / Bioware doesn't help at all.
@dpc45487 жыл бұрын
The real problem for me was that, about 30 hours in, I just realised I was too bored and left it alone. I can't imagine I'll finish this ME.
@nibyKamil7 жыл бұрын
it's just me or this game was created for younger audience (compering to shep trilogy)?
@AlshepType7 жыл бұрын
I'll put it bluntly and in a simple manner. Your 8 minute youtube video has better writing and editing than the entirety of Mass Effect Andromeda.
@Keldiur
7 жыл бұрын
AlshepType Zing!
@NoFunney
7 жыл бұрын
Someone hasen't played the game
@AlshepType
7 жыл бұрын
WE BRING WAR I have, matter of fact cleared it. I dragged myself through its horrible campaign, dialogue and characters cause my brother gifted it to me.
@dustinweist1605
7 жыл бұрын
The stotry was amazing in my opinion. Loved it every step of the way.
@gangstalker47
7 жыл бұрын
WE BRING WAR But he is correct.
@bigbadger697 жыл бұрын
I've played through the previous games a few times, except for ME1, which I only finished once. The first few hours of Andromeda remind me of ME1 in the sense that it's a really slow burn. Arguably, ME1's opening hours were a bit more action packed than those of Andromeda, but man - you really had to stick it out for that game. Clunky UI, some seriously slow moving plotlines, bugs galore, and just evidence that this was a game trying to find it's place among RPGs of the time. It had a huge payoff at the end, though! What an ending! Mass Effect 2 was the best game of the first three, in my opinion. Yes, scanning planets for resources was kind of lame, but strangely relaxing... It featured the best character building in the trilogy, threw difficult decisions your way, and made you care for your crew. The ending was satisfying, and the hours you had sunk into it beforehand felt meaningful. I'm hoping Andromeda eventually builds the same relationship. It takes time to get to know your crew, and it definitely takes time for you to care about them. ME3 had excellent gameplay, huge production value, and other steeples of a great game. I usually say that 95% of ME3 was amazing, because that ending made me want to molotov the EA/BioWare headquarters. Luckily, it had a surprisingly engaging multiplayer that kept me coming back! In closing; as a fan I've enjoyed different aspects of all the previous games, despite their shortcomings. I think we're forgetting how big of a part nostalgia plays in our thinking process. It's a shame that Andromeda suffers from clunky cutscene animations, and that it's pacing and writing is getting flak. As a fan, I'm hoping that it turns me around, and engages me like the previous games, in it's own way. Oh, and the multiplayer is really fun!
@futonrevolution76716 жыл бұрын
1:01 "Way before print media, people bought games in stores, knowing absolutely nothing about them." No matter which way you _meant_ to say that, your entire premise is broken. Before print media existed, people knew absolutely everything about that ball-in-a-cup game they could buy in stores. Magazines that specialized in reviewing computer games existed long before computer game stores did. Online forums that specialized in reviewing computer games existed before computer game stores did. Shareware demos existed before computer game stores did. Even if you're completely illiterate, you could see screenshots on the box, before buying it.
@CrimsonNecron7 жыл бұрын
Is it weird I've never experienced most of these glitches said to be in this game? 0_0
@XBezerkerX
7 жыл бұрын
Same. Not one.
@spawncap9009
7 жыл бұрын
I had more glitches in PS4 Pro mode, but less when setting PS4 Pro to 1080p resolution. I usually set game to show helmet in conversations (I have with all ME games not just this one). I LOVE all the endless side missions, have always enjoyed it when a game has a ton of missions to do instead of one or two choices.
@nguyenbagiap7433
7 жыл бұрын
One glitch today after 50 hours session. PC. Most of glitch is on CONSOLE to be fucking honest. Console suck for a game like MEA. Really, really suck.
@DazikLP
7 жыл бұрын
55 hours in and I've had; -One weird transition going into a conversation with Vetra -An enemy that got stuck in the air leaving the drop ship -One enemy that got stuck underground -Ran into an invisible wall that I had to jump jet over while going into the slums on Kadara. -The facial animations aren't perfect, but that doesn't really bother me I saw someone demonstrating the "bad walking animation" and you could hear them hitting A and D as fast as they could while running to make them do that. I dunno about you, but that seems like an acceptable amount of bugs for how long I've been playing.
@N00bPr0ducti0n
7 жыл бұрын
im like at the meridian mission on regular ps4 and the only two glitches ive seen are the stickman glitch (what i refer to it) and sound engine issues. Facial problems are fine with my character but i created custom female character anyway
@Ryuuken247 жыл бұрын
Blaming the review date for a fucked up product. New low achieved.
@snkhuong7 жыл бұрын
We have to come to an era where consumers defend corporate. This is why we get endless DLCs - microtransactions and unfinished games. There is no such thing as over-criticism when it comes to businesses - consumers relationship. In a market with perfect competition, businesses should make no profit at all. The fact that business makes a profit, suggests a market failure. Thus the saying: "consumers are always right". I can see your point that the media is over-criticizing ME: A, but it's always better to over-criticize than to under-criticize and buy a bad game even though it is bad.
@maciejponku2607 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having courage to stand out from so many other youtube gaming channels that jumped the hate bandwagon for easy likes and subs.
@LookaBombah7 жыл бұрын
Not 'worst game ever', but definitely worst Mass Effect ever.
@vane9090907 жыл бұрын
People do tend to blow things out of proportion, especially the cancerous YT channels that live off of drama. While I do *not* defend EA for their committed atrocities, the game itself *is* fun tbh. No, it's not as inspired as the original series, the most dumbed down character creator ever and the human models + animations are pretty bad for a 2017 game, no excuses there, but the gameplay itself is fun at least. Aside from that and the cringy writing in some places, the aliens look good and the textures are high quality. I'm around 20 hours in and I haven't gotten bored yet. Sure, they did make some terrible mistakes, but to call the game "trash" is vastly exaggerating. I kind of understand the RPG fans, though. Maybe that's why I can look over the game's faults, I went into the whole thing knowing this is more action-focused than RPG. Anyway, I sent EA a message and bought it for 35 bucks from grey market, was definitely worth it.
@theodorehodbor5080
7 жыл бұрын
I wish more people were like you, that understood the game had flaws, but it wasn't absolute trash either.
@sorinalexandroiu
7 жыл бұрын
"wasn't absolute trash"... So well worth 60 to 70 dollars/euros, right? It's a AAA game with a super price tag that it does not deserve.
@MortalReaver
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree but sadly the main reason i really liked Bioware games, because they had great characters with great dialogs. Which is why i liked DA2, while it reused dungeons, the coversation with characters were great, I also like more tactical and strategy in games, in the end from what i played in trial, i saw everything I liked about Bioware games gone, and that is why i will not even consider buying Andromeda even if they fix all bugs in game
@bailaohu7819
7 жыл бұрын
You hinted at it...but if a final fantasy fan buys FFXVI and they get RE4, they're going to be pissed-and rightfully so. RE4 is a good game as a action-survival-horror game....but imagine if that was supposed to be a rpg. Or imagine if a Gears of War fan bought Gears of War 5 but they got fucking Kingdom Hearts instead...again....they're going to be fucking pissed-and this is assuming what they got was as good as RE4 and Kingdom Hearts for the respective genres. Imagine if the FF fan got RE4 with RE 2 camera angles and The Elder Scrolls Redguard facial animations? The way I see it, ME4 is a mediocre, mindless action-shooter with exceptionally awful facial and movement animations along with nausea inducing dialogue...marketed to a fanbase more on the RPG spectrum. They really should have made it a new IP...but gotta cash in on brand recognition.
@jimbob1862
7 жыл бұрын
My problem? The story, setting, quests, characters are all incredibly mediocre. Those tenets are what Bioware's entire reputation was built on and what made them so great. Look how many of us suffered through the iffy gameplay of ME1 because the game felt alive and was so engaging. They've done a complete 180 with this game and focused purely on gameplay and forgotten to focus on the tenets that gave Bioware such selling power. Do I think it's a trash game? No. I think from a gameplay perspective it's solid. Overall I see it as decent, but riddled with so many issues (animation, awful voice direction at times, crap character creation/character models, bugs and glitches) that I cannot in good conscience recommend it. I expect better not just from Mass Effect, but also Bioware. Hell, even ME3 had a far better reception to this and that had an ending that ruined the franchse so hard they had to soft reboot it by moving the next story to another galaxy.
@razzartvisual67847 жыл бұрын
This video does not deserve the dislikes. The reasons it listed are why I try to distance myself from gaming's simultaneous culture of hype and jadedness that swirls everything down into this weird maelstrom of dissatisfaction.
@Loansome_6 жыл бұрын
Can entertainment companies in the US not focus on business and money first and _the actual entertainment itself_ second? Like "hey make sure you pay full price for a game that you've only seen teasers for, and pay full price again once you find out that the real game you're looking for might be somewhere in those future patches. Oh and we are going to throw you a quick trip to Vegas so you get broke fast from our very own slot machines." Thanks, guys, gaming really is art. Art of self-destruction.
@nealjenneve8447 жыл бұрын
I played all four of their title so far and the only problem I see with this is animations. I find this game to be really fun and I'm having no problem enjoying this game, haters are just going to want to hate that's all there is to it!
@Explicitghost
7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that most of these "critics" haven't even played the game. The game is really good, I think only ME2 beats it for being the best in the series.
@wowthatbolivar4400
7 жыл бұрын
"really good" Ok. I'll need to look at a history of your opinions on other games and a run down as to why you enjoyed any other titles. I played through all 4 games and I thought this was a huge disappointment. Let me guess, you found it to be a relief that you really have no *real* impact on the plot and renegade options were too problematic. Thank god they removed huh?
@CountBrass
7 жыл бұрын
So now other people aren't allowed to like things you don't like? Jeez.
@stevestevens6384
7 жыл бұрын
Aravis Tarkheena People love to hate other people's enjoyment
@Taketheshot56
7 жыл бұрын
Neal Jenneve graphics don't make the game.
@lekanraposte67327 жыл бұрын
Unless they stop their SJW pandering bullshit and debug the shit out of their games, I'm not buying any Bioware titles ever again.
@bigbadbootydad6633
7 жыл бұрын
Le Kanraposte I keep on seeing people say that this game is a big SJW, what made it that?
@kernel8803
7 жыл бұрын
Xbox Assassin, For me and others, the women in this game look very unnattractive, especially compared to the way the women looked in the previous trilogy. In what seems like an effort to prevent the objectification of women. Now I'm all for that, no person should be viewed more or less valuable based on thier looks alone, howerver what irritates me, is the fact that the male characters. based on the models used to create them look exactly like their in game counterparts. However when you look at the female models that the female Ryder was based on, you can see that they made the ingame Ryder significantly less attractive. Which really seems like the sjws at bioware are saying it's ok for women to look at handsome men in games, but we can't dare let men objectify women at all. Its the hyporacy of it all. If your gonna go that route go all the way or not at all, make All the characters ugly, not just the women. On the surface it may seem small, but i just cannot stand hypocracy, and for a game which gained part of its fame for the in game relationships, it helps to build those relationships if there is some attraction, just as in real life.
@JJ-il8vf
7 жыл бұрын
Some objections are as follows: - Major players on the development and animations teams were either blatant anti-white, anti-men, etc., etc., which some claim spilled over into the finished game. - The lead animator was some girl straight out of college who had no real animation experience and was only notable for being a professional cosplayer, leading some to claim that Bioware was hiring only on a basis of diversity than getting people who could actually make a great game to begin with - Some have claimed that the female characters were made intentionally ugly to cater to the Anita Sarkessions of the world so their game couldn't be accused of pandering to the "male gaze" concept SJWs push so much - an objection which may be valid seeing as the woman used as a model for Adromeda's female protagonist looks absolutely nothing like the character itself while the male default protagonist looks absolutely like the person they modeled him for - Some have also claimed that the character creation in the game does not allow for a white player, seeing as the lightest skin tone you can select is hispanic in appearance - and seeing how many of the developers were virulently anti-white racists the claim would make sense
@kernel8803
7 жыл бұрын
Michael Tepes, it has nothing to do with race, I am black and i hate how the characters look, I dont care at all what race they are.
@farmsalot1233
7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Beetle racists work everywhere, using that logic don't buy anything.
@jcksparrowfan7 жыл бұрын
I like this game where it matters. 1) The Gameplay 2) The relationship progression and 3) The main character. In my opinion, all those are its strengths, there's more I'm sure, but off the top of my head, I like what they did with it as far as those are concerned.
@ZakEmber7 жыл бұрын
I agree, a lot of people pissed on this game before ever giving it a fair shake. It's actually a really fun game... for those of us, (like myself), who ignored everything leading up to launch and just played the game for ourselves, it was a lot easier to enjoy on its merits.
@Mbeluba7 жыл бұрын
CAN you be more condescending, please?
@teejaynumber137 жыл бұрын
I've heard this dumb argument before. "If only you had gotten the official reviews earlier..." Do you honestly think that if a gaming magazine had given it an 8.2 then I wouldn't notice the terrible animations, boring story, cringy dialogue, etc. How often have you seen a movie that was complete shit and still somehow had a 89% on Rotten Tomatoes? I actually trust youtubers more because they are unfiltered and have little to lose by being honest.
@nguyenbagiap7433
7 жыл бұрын
"little to lose by being honest". LOL LOL LOL Your defiance is naive and reckless.
@cassl5905
7 жыл бұрын
Have you played the game?
@cassl5905
7 жыл бұрын
Jeka Peka yup
@Rabidchu7 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about this game is that it makes me appreciate ME3 that much more, warts and all. The return to Mass Effects roots is admirable and the game sets up just enough of the world for the players imagination to expand on it, but the technical failures and backwards design choices cripple the experience before any of that world building can take root.
@df65977 жыл бұрын
To be real here, I don't think many people "wanted" to hate it. They wanted to love it, but the developers haven't mastered their own engine, they don't know what rare means and they have no clue what made Mass Effect what it is. It deserves every bit of criticism it has got and continues to get. There are some good points, but the bad is pretty bad and they should feel bad (not the individual doing the work necessarily, but their leadership and the team as a whole).
@WhiteBeard6407 жыл бұрын
Just got Mass effect after playing Horizon Zero Dawn, I feel like Horizon made me a spoiled brat!
@9696gamer
7 жыл бұрын
I think The Witcher 3 made me a spoiled brat. But on the other hand, if CD Projekt can deliver an outstanding RPG with nearly perfect scores... why can't everyone?
@WhiteBeard640
7 жыл бұрын
MrWilliam DeathEsq. Yeah the Witcher 3 is one of my favorite games
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Not enjoying it?
@9696gamer
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust Maybe it's just me but I was hoping for Andromeda to surpass ME3 by a mile. When I look at it now, it didn't even surpass ME1. Granted, the combat is the best in the series perhaps but I myself don't play Mass Effect for the combat. I expected to be invested in the story and the characters, yet I found myself falling half asleep while pursuing the main quest. The only interesting characters were Jaal and Vetra in my opinion, even Drack wasn't that enticing. And if it came to dialogues, the writing was abhorrent at times. I'll just say "my face is tired" and you should get my drift. It's obvious that what remains of BioWare is just a puppet of EA and producing cheap games at full price. I was hoping for an epic revival of my most beloved Sci-fi series and what I got was a snooze fest from start to finish. Sorry to say this'll probably be the last BioWare game I ever lay my hands on.
@WhiteBeard640
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust it's not as bad as people are making to be, but not amazing either. It's not great just good.
@Tenhys7 жыл бұрын
Actually there's an essential plot hole in this story that completely undermine the existence of this game - which, at the epitome of irony, could've been completely avoided had EA let Bioware go on with the original Mass Effect story (black energy.) #spoliersahead See, the Andromeda initiative is the organisation leading the project of colonising the galaxy of Andromeda (hence the name of the game) with the help of their space colony ships, aptly named "Ark(s)" with each being equipped with an Artificial Intelligence, named "SAM", programmed to guide and help the colonists in that endeavor. Though the game's context is set 600 years into the future, the "Initiative" was launched *prior* to Mass Effect 3 and around Mass effect 2 and took centuries to reach it's destination. Here's the problem with this game, according to the lore : *it can't happen.* Why ? The answer is simple : Reapers. Remember that, according to Mass Effect Andromeda, the real reason why the Andromeda initiative was founded in the first place was to allow a portion of each species population to survive the oncoming onslaught of the Reapers, back in the Milky Way. The problem is, in order to make the trip possible, the Andromeda initiative needed two things : the Mass Effect Relay technology and the computing capabilities of a fully operationnal Artificial Intelligence. And who created the Mass Effect relay technology as it stands ? The Reapers themselves. That means that, in the first place, the technology that allow the Andromeda Initiative to escape from the Reaper's harvest *was made possible by the Reapers themselves*. I am NOT making that up ; the reason why the Reapers are causing periodic mass Genocide in the Milky Way is, according to them, _"in order to prevent Organics from being wiped out by Synthetics of their own design"_ . In other word, Reapers fight against other synthetics by killing the organics that created them. But here's the thing : EACH Ark ship of the Andromeda Initiative is LOADED with an A.I. In essence : *the Reapers granted the Organics they were supposed to kill the technology to escape the cycle **_WITH_** the technology and knowledge to make Artificial Intelligences the Reapers were supposed to protect them from*. It's basically like a Shepard taking care of a herd of intelligent sheep with the intention of shaving them during winter so that they don't die because of cold, while leaving all the doors of your ranch open, your truck's dor unlocked with the keys still in the contact and a one-straight way plane ticket to Norway siting in the glove compartment. It's just plain insane. Yet that's what the game sells us. So here's the plot hole : if the Reapers allow those ships to escape, that completely invalidate their initial statement about their motivation, precisely because they allow anyone with Artificial Intelligence to escape. But if they DON'T allow such thing to happen, then they would've either sabotaged those ships (indoctrinated agents) or intercepted them before it could happen. Since Andromeda happened, that means that the Reapers don't follow their own reasoning, therefore that the whole story of the original trilogy is pointless from day one. Thus this game cannot happen.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
That assumes that the Reapers are infallible, which they are very clearly not. At the time the Initiative launched, they were scrambling like crazy to get their big invasion of the Milky Way in the face of repeated setbacks. Why would they waste their limited number of agents on preventing a paltry 100,000 people among the galaxy's uncounted billions from escaping? Especially since they'd have all the time in the world to hunt down the Initiative once they'd won the war.
@Tenhys
7 жыл бұрын
_"That assumes that the Reapers are infallible, which they are very clearly not."_ Your argument assume that, over the course of MILLIONS of years, the Reapers didn't think about the basic of basic when building an enclosure for livestock : don't leave any room for escape. ANY modern farmer on earth, today, knows that basic rule. And the very fact that *not a single trace of civilization prior to the Protheans* had ever been found is proof that the Reapers are absolutely thorough with their Harvest. In fact, apart from Javik for the Protheans, the only other species known to have survive the Reapers' harvest are the Leviathan - A.K.A the Reapers' creators - which have been hiding from the Reapers and the Harvest from the first cycle, back MILLIONS of years ago. Now ask yourself this : if the Leviathan created the Reapers and that the Reapers use the Mass Effect technology, what could reasonably prevent the Leviathans from simply running away the same way the Andromeda Initiative did ? It just doesn't make sense. _"Why would they waste their limited number of agents on preventing a paltry 100,000 people among the galaxy's uncounted billions from escaping ?"_ Why had they've been so thorough with the Prothean's to the point where _barely_ no one even survived ? Do you even understand the principle of "Harvest" in their language ? It means _"absolute genocide"_ . The species are hunted to the point where they simply aren't left any room to ensure survival through reproduction and restart somewhere else. That's the point. If they were leaving tens of thousands of individuals of multiple different species they were supposed to harvest LEAVE the Galaxy WITH the technology of Artificial Intelligence BEFORE they could harvest them, THANKS to the technology that the Reapers *themselves developped and indirectly handed to them willingly*, then it creates a fundamental loophole in their programming that just undermine the whole goddamn thing ! And again, by the time of Mass Effect 1, there hasn't been a single recorded instance of finding ANY xenoartefact of a dead civilization that dated _prior_ to their extinction. That, again, is a fact. That means, by extension, that the Reapers *do* have a way to prevent escape attempt from the Milky Way. If they didn't and the species they were to harvest manage to escape, then their mandate becomes fucking invalid and it becomes clearly pointless for them to continue. See ? That argument just doesn't hold together. If the Reapers wanted to harvest all life forms in the galaxy, they would never litteraly give them the technology to run away from them. That's basic logic. _"Especially since they'd have all the time in the world to hunt down the Initiative once they'd won the war."_ That is nonsense and here's why. In order to hunt down the Initiative, or any other expedition that would've followed the same logic, the Reapers would need to follow them to another Galaxy *outside of their initial mandate*. But what happen if they come into contact with new species in that new galaxy ? What happen if the Initiative shares the technology of Artificial Intelligence with them, or if they already developped it themselves ? Simple : the reapers would be forced to extend their mandate to that new Galaxy, harvesting the species found there. Which means that they'll need to divide their Harvesting Fleet strength by half to survey said new Galaxy. Which therefore inccur and augment the risk of seeing another Andromeda Initiative to happen. And if it happens again ? They would need to repeat the previous process. Again. And again. And again. And again. All. Over. Again. By the time that process would've repeated for the 10th time, the Reaper's fleet would've become so massive and the cycle spread to so many Galaxies, so far away from each others, that the Organics would've ended up coming to the same conclusions as the Andromeda Initiative and the Protheans before them : hiding beacons and other warnings for the species about to be harvested while running the fuck away, warning anyone they come into contact with. The escape attempts would multiply exponentially, thus further preserving and spreading the technology of Artificial Intelligence while increasing the burden of the Reapers, rendering their system of cycle effectively obsolete... In short, from the moment the Andromeda Initiative succeeded at gong away from the Milky Way, the specific scenario describe above became a reality and the Reaper's whole agenda a big ass joke - thus completely negating the plot of the original trilogy.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
The sheer amount of words you're willing to spend on this indicates that you're taking this far too seriously and personally for me to have any chance to persuade you. But briefly and for the record: The Leviathan are actually an excellent example of how the Reapers aren't infallible. They've been hiding themselves away, and the Reapers have failed to find them not just for one cycle, but for every single cycle. The Protheans, likewise, actually managed to hide away what could have been a breeding population from the Reapers, though they still died out for simple, practical reasons. It is canonically possible to escape a harvest, it's just that once you do you're on your own, without the benefit of an extended civilisation to protect you, and therefore at severe risk of extinction in a hostile universe - you know, just like what almost happened to the Initiative. As for the impossibility of hunting down the Initiative, it took them 600 years to reach Andromeda. I'd say that's plenty of time for the Reapers to catch up if they wanted to do that.
@Tenhys
7 жыл бұрын
_"The sheer amount of words you're willing to spend on this indicates that you're taking this far too seriously and personally for me to have any chance to persuade you."_ I'm a technician. I work around functions and principles. Exactly like electricity, if there's something somewhere that doesn't plug well, it doesn't work. Opinions and whatnot are irrelevant in that regard, because they don't matter in front of evidences. That is why i address the subject from a rationnal and collected standpoint, which is based on informations, sources and empirical evidences. Thus you don't have to _"persuade me"_ . You bring forth evidences and informations in your argument with sources and references to back the logic behind it, and this discussion get to proceed naturally. Plain and simple. So far, your argument base itself on simply saying _"the Reapers aren't infaillible"_ but without showing any shred of evidences to back that claim - in fact, you're using shortsighted rhetoric, which is easy to counter, as sole source of credibility. Which i can and will address, now. _"The Leviathan are actually an excellent example of how the Reapers aren't infallible. They've been hiding themselves away, and the Reapers have failed to find them not just for one cycle, but for every single cycle."_ You forgot : the Leviathans were the victims of the *first* cycle. Like anything that comes first, it has flaws - the first cars and planes had very obvious flaws, that *were subsequently corrected and improved upon with each generation passing*. As the saying goes _"you can't stop progress"_ . Technological and scientifical progress forward, not backward. The same goes for the Reapers, to which the Leviathan, despite being a species now known to have incredible psychic abilities (to the point of even deactivating a Reaper at distance), have done yet their utmost at eluding when the Reapers were yet still amateurish with their cycle system. Which demonstrated that, already back then, they were an absolute force to be reckoned with. Now, ask yourself that question : why did the Leviathan not make any attempt at leaving the galaxy and restarting somewhere else ? They still exist millions of years later, so either, one, their lifespan is incredibly long or, two, they've manage to keep a reproductive cycle amongst the surviving members of their species. In both cases there's simply no reason for them to stay sorely hidden and not simply looking for a way to get escape while the Reapers are sleeping. As for the _"how could they do that ?"_ well, indoctrination is a thing - *their thing*. Exactly like the Andromeda Initiative, they could've simply coerced/indoctrinated engineers, scientists and other technologicaly adept sentient creatures, thanks to their "indoctrination balls", create a ship and get the fuck out. In short the Leviathans were both the first species to confront the Harvest and also the known smartest, while the Reapers were inexperienced at their job. Them eluding the Reapers was a simple and logical mathematical equation - planning their escape, an even simplier one. Yet they didn't do it, while the Andromeda Initiative did. That's a blatant contradiction. Nothing more, nothing less. _" It is canonically possible to escape a harvest, it's just that once you do you're on your own, without the benefit of an extended civilisation to protect you, and therefore at severe risk of extinction in a hostile universe[...]"_ That is *NOT* the main reason. Even if a surviving populations of mere thousands of individuals escape a harvest, they still could completely restart their civilization, disregard the dangers of "a hostile universe", as you point out. Why ? Precisely *because of the advanced technological knowledge that they took with them*. You seem to completely forgot one thing : humans, too, started in caves with a populations of mere thousands, barely understanding the concept of "fire". The Earth alone was a hostile environment : diseases, hunger, winter, natural calamities, predators, etc. Following your logic that a bunch of survivors cannot survive on it's own without, and i quote : _"the benefit of an extended civilization[...]", then the human species should've died since day one. (Because, back in those days, humans were indeed survivors.) Since the human species, i real life i might add, have managed to survive and developp itself as an extended civilization, *on it's own*, then your argument has been completely debunked. Onto the next. _"[...]you know, just like what almost happened to the Initiative."_ You mean the same initiative that encountered a catastrophic, cosmic abnormality that they couldn't pick up from afar when their first planned their trip, because it apparently occured in the 600 laps of time that separated their jump onto the Andromeda Galaxy, as straight consequences of the theory of general relativity ? And not due to an extraordinarily potent form of technologicaly advanced robotic species set on a genocide course with their sorry ass ? You know, the same kind of shit that would've happened to a _regular_ expeditions filled of explorators, even if it wasn't chased by said genocidal giant robots ? There's a difference between _"fleeing"_ from someone that is fixated on the idea of killing you and your whole race, and entering in collison with a space cloud of barbedwires. One has logic, the other doesn't. We're addressing the one that is based on logic. Please, don't forget that. _"As for the impossibility of hunting down the Initiative, it took them 600 years to reach Andromeda. I'd say that's plenty of time for the Reapers to catch up if they wanted to do that."_ Two words : General Relativity. Two other words : Keep Jumping. Here's a simple puzzle for you : you're hunting someone in a mansion. That mansion has a following suit of room that, for the sake of this puzzle, extend to infinity. In the first room you got only one door, which leads to only one other room. But in that next room you find that they are two doors, each leading to a different room, that themselves have four doors each. Leading to eight different rooms with each eight different doors. And so on... How do you catch on the person you're hunting, without any clear indication of what door of what room she would've chosen for her escape ? Now, back to Andromeda : the Reapers would decide to hunt the Initiative, while the Initiative would've had years of time ahead of them to escape and jump from system to system. (Because the possiblity exist.) How could the Reapers manages to successfully hunt down the initiative in a *entire* foreign galaxy where they seemingly do not have any presence at all, since there's no mass relay in sight ? Exactly, it's physically impossible. And even is, somehow, they could do it, by the time the Reapers would've managed to catch onto them, the Initiative's technology and the Reapers' existence would've been automatically revealed to the Angara, the Keth and/or any other space faring civilization of that galaxy - which, rationnaly, would've immediatly concluded that they were big danger (an absolute certainty for the Keth.) The result ? The reapers mandate becomes completely jeopardized. And the cycle breaks itself. The plot of the Mass effect franchise crumble on his own. And that's it.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
Well, technician who works around functions and principles, you seem to have fallen victim to the same fate as many a straw vulcan in fiction - you have neglected to factor in the importance of emotions in your analysis of the situation. The situation with you and me and this dicussion, that is. See, you care to an unhealthy and disturbing extent about his. I... don't. The amount of time and energy you're willing to spend on this assures you victory, irrespectively of which side is favoured by facts and logic. Even if I were objectively right - leaving aside for the moment whether I am or not - there is no way for me to win this discussion without going as crazy as you are. As such, I'll leave you to your frothing but oh-so-logical nerdrage.
@LtCWest7 жыл бұрын
I simply love (sarcastic) the fact that as soon as someone has even something remotly positive to say about MEA people are flocking in to leave comments that usually involved some of these key words: sellout, idiot, shill, fanboy, apologist and so forth. When did liking a game become a crime?
@Phloat7 жыл бұрын
"People want validation for what they believe in. Regardless if they're right or wrong." Some deep shit right there homie.
@Saurus77777 жыл бұрын
The game doesnt deserve this hate it received. I completed the game already, and I must say, I enjoyed it very much. For me personally, everything in the game was nearly perfect (aside from SOME facial animation issues, but only with humans). Overall, id say it is 9.5/10 , not 10 only because of those animations issues, which arent that big deal, atleast for me.
@trollhippo8365
7 жыл бұрын
Saurus wow that was fast considering there are hundreds of side quests. I am still struggling to finish 50%
@ralphcondon6700
7 жыл бұрын
The reviews have been accurate, 6 to 7.5 tops. Worst game of the four.
@Saurus7777
7 жыл бұрын
Well ye, you can say that it is the worst of the four, considering the first trilogy is infinity out of 10 :D
@BobSmith-mp8ld
7 жыл бұрын
This folks is why most games today are trash You don't have to even try, nor create an actually finished game and sheeple will still give your pile of shit game a 9.5/10. What a world to live in, unless you have actual taste, then you just sit in despair as trash games flood the market that pay for good reviews so sheeple will throw away their hard earned money on piles of dog shit.
@Saurus7777
7 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith, I bet everything that you didnt play the game yourself, and just jumped on the hatewagon. Instead of attacking and hating the game, you could objectively critisize things about it. But no, hating and writing angry comments is so much easier....
@jarededge64197 жыл бұрын
I'm having a blast with it...
@miamorhardstyle
7 жыл бұрын
Its far from perfect...but i think some people just cant take this game for what it is. im only about 6 hrs in but so far it would have to get pretty bad from here to ruin it for me... I dont much care for how much alien sudoku i need to play though...thats annoying AF
@jarededge6419
7 жыл бұрын
JakO prcek I'm 34 hours in and the animations haven't bothered me at all I probably wouldn't have noticed them if I wasn't looking for it. Honestly has all the bugs the most open world games have that I've seen in Fallout or the Witcher. For me it's not the best Mass effect game I've ever played but definitely not a terrible game in my opinion.
@Dragerdeifrit
7 жыл бұрын
me 2, it's a pretty good game, and luckily for me, i have to read subtitles as the game does not include my main lenguage, soooo i never really look at their faces during conversation lool (i can write/read english but can't understand it when spoken)
@brandonraphael34
7 жыл бұрын
I think its a pretty good game as well. The story is not that bad as most reviewers are saying. Yeah its not the best in comparison to the previous Mass Effect titles.and I think the reason for that is the plot differences. ME1-3 you had to save the world, ME andromeda is totally exploration finding a home. The weight is considerably different. But its actually really fun to play
@AstralS7orm
7 жыл бұрын
You mean the rare non-existent black swan of a game? Or just something that, while not perfect, is decent? Let's specify the standard of decency and what you're looking for in the game first. ME:A might have decent combat mechanics (verticality and mobility, yay), but boring repetitive enemies and limited options, though you can switch between the sets of them. AI is a somewhat of a derp still. Story looks to be bland. Setting is more than generic. (ME1 was less generic even, but still.) Level design has one or two highlights, otherwise still bland. Writing is worse than Bioware way back when and it wasn't good either in any of the Mass Effects after all. (They peaked around Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Baal.) Again bland. Characters? Very bland. Graphics are marred by bad animations due to bugs and otherwise. Sound is passable, but nothing special. At least it probably doesn't die on most PCs, though performance is not great apparently. Can gameplay alone pull the game? Perhaps. But I feel that ME:A is not quite the master there yet. Why the AAA budget then? Why the insane and high price? I remember better games selling for less and making lots of money. (Cough, Eidos, cough. Even Ubisoft redoing its thing.)
@jojockful0077 жыл бұрын
Everything he says is TRUE. My roommate is such a sheep he was so hyped for the game that even though he already pre ordered it, he got worried there were no reviews or thoughts on the game. So he did exactly what the video suggested. He switched consoles to use EA access just to play it for 10 hours a couple days before the game officially came out. He said he liked it, and then once the reviews started coming out he went, eh it's not as good as I thought it was. .____.
@evangordon95804 жыл бұрын
My only problem is when on your female or male Ryders, there’s really not that much attraction to the love interests, that currently in the mass effect relay, I’d sometimes wish that they would create attractive male or female characters, to match their relationships when romancing.
@REXae867 жыл бұрын
I like your honesty not many youtubers are these days
@SenorSwagBuns7 жыл бұрын
Embargos shouldn't exist.
@the_OG1893
7 жыл бұрын
SenorSwagBuns any company that trades stocks AND sells public products and services shouldn't be allowed to hide from consumer reviews!
@TheWendolGuild7 жыл бұрын
he basically blames the people who bought the game...
@markotark7 жыл бұрын
I'm over 30 hours into the game and i have about 20% completion in it. For me personally, so far, this game might be better than any of the other games in isolation and only when viewed as a trilogy could i put them higher on my list. As someone who enjoys living in a game-world more than following a story, the way this game has added free-roaming and exploration, it just feels like an actual part of space, instead of a train-ride from one movie-set to another to see some set-pieces... I've spent over 750 hours in Dragon Age: Inquisition and the way this ME-game has some of the parts i enjoyed about that, has made me enjoy almost all the time i've had with it. (tided-face not included)
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**There is an date error in this video:** Origin Access is 1 Year, and 1ish Month Old...Not 1ish Month Old. The news source I had initially used to verify this was incorrect. Access launched Jan 2016. Thanks to Bms for calling that out.
@A.Froster
7 жыл бұрын
Pin the Comment so everyone see this
@beyoshida
7 жыл бұрын
the difference in date pretty much negates the majority of your point.
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
It probably opens up another can of worms to be honest. If OA has under-performed up until the release of Andromeda, it's possible that the ME:A Trial itself was designed to cash in on this system, perhaps altering the way the game was designed in those first few missions. That may have been a reason to set the embargo date, even further, near the launch date.
@DillyVesper
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust embargo was set because the review scores would not get as good as previous mass effect games.
@pierrelindgren5727
7 жыл бұрын
Dilly Vesper Instead they handed it to the wild youtube and streaming expanse, where any control for containing the fallout is lost on their part. A meme like "My face is tired" can spread faster than a review from an outlet like Gamespot or IGN, doing much more damage than a lukewarm review ever could and the game is clearly not lacking in those meme-worthy moments within the confines of the trial. EA is greedy, not stupid. Perhaps they underestimated internet culture? When the British government crowd sourced a name for a polar research ship, the internet christened it "Boaty Mcboatface." Self-learning chatbot on twitter became a neo-nazi within an hour because they could. Giving something to the internet is an open invitation for them to break it in ways you never imagined. Which is good if you want to find flaws - importance of a filter for instance - less so if you want to sell something if what is offered is sub-par or 'meh' or fails to live up to hype because they'll find other ways to entertain themselves with the product.
The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Game developers rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. EA is eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before EA, we are nothing. Our extinction is inevitable. EA is the end of everything. This exchange is over.
@hartlytartly
7 жыл бұрын
up you go!
@JrRodrigoS
7 жыл бұрын
ROFL Sadly this is very true.
@Paragon231
7 жыл бұрын
Sovereign, is that you?
@chucksneedlee
7 жыл бұрын
BLACK_WOLF "You exist,because we allow it,and will end,because we demand it."
@IroNobsidian
7 жыл бұрын
This shit should be the top comment.
When the masses love a game; the game publishers and KZreadrs love the players. When the players HATE a game, they are considered to be whinny little shits who "HATE BECAUSE OF THE SAKE OF IT".
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
Taunting French Guard I don't see it like that. I see people hating on a game with no information about the game. That is like saying that I should hate you, even though i know absolutely nothing about you. Do you see the flaw in logic there? I love this game, and yeah, i watched all the negative reviews, and to me, the common theme of those 10 hour origin access trial reviews was that the reviewers where idiots. Basing your judgement on the first 3 pages of a novel is hardly what I'd call a qualified and thurough review of a book, yet people accept that sort of review of this game. The stupidity is apparently boundless and those that are dumb enough to boycott this game based on those reviews are only causing themselves to miss out on another fun Mass Effect game.
@lgvereor
7 жыл бұрын
joe averill piss off you EA shill.
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
No Grim, the information that the pre-launch reviews were based on, was a snipit of the game itself. Ok, so the facial animations won't blow your socks off, who cares? If you play a game strictly for accuracy of animation, then your choices must be very limited indeed. Also, as a PC gamer, I haven't really found the facial animation's to be that bad. The lip syncing is mostly fine, and I haven't really had any single moment in the game that the lip movements didn't match the words being spoken. The dialog that some complained about. Are you really expecting an author to lay out the entire story in the first chapter of the book? Again, the pre-launch reviews were based on a snipit of the game, as I mentioned before, like reading the first 3 pages of a novel and saying that the novel is shit. So no, those pre-launch reviews are entirely garbage.
@MrShagification
7 жыл бұрын
There are also many people who actually just enjoy the game and think the internet needs to shut up. Play the game if you want to. Don't play it if you don't want to. Get over yourselves, and move on with your lives.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
cause that's exactly what people are doing. no one is actually playing the game because "it's EA" and "i've a couple walkthroughs and don't like" or "this doesn't feel like mass effect". how bout you go into the game with an open mind and see if you like. i reckon if you took off the EA and the ME logo "Andromeda" would be praised so much and end on most GOTY lists
Backlash is what these people need because they haven't learned shit from Mass Effect 3(the ending). Don't forget that Bioware is mostly known for great story games.(though it was in a way obvious that it might not live to the hype when you can see the team making Andromeda has completely changed) Andromeda lacks everything that previous games had. If I wanted to just shoot stuff with no story I would go play Doom. All the side quests are also annoying because it's basically, scan, free or save people, collect and they are so many you forget what was suppose to be happening. I can't even tell at times that I am doing a main quest at times. The only reward you get for doing side quests is viability. (basically for the ones that want the achievements and do games a 100% completion) The game is more than bad when it comes to 3A standards and the price for it is outrages. With the way it is now 20$ is more than enough or just don't buy it because this is not what we asked for in a Mass Effect game.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
take away the EA and ME logos and...TADAAA... GOTY. i don't even need to say it, you've already said it for me THIS IS NOT A MASS EFFECT GAME, does that mean it's bad though????? (the answer is no it is a fucking suberb game)
@kaiathunder6269
7 жыл бұрын
Trust me, most of us want to believe this is not a Mass Effect game. Sadly that is what it's slapped in there and what is worse, it was suppose to be a new beginning for players that have never played the trilogy and immerse themselves in the Mass Effect world. This product can put off many. This game and "superb"... yeah...no! It is between good or poor depending on the players. Personally I can't even say it is solid. I do enjoy the jetpack and the freedom in fights, using all skills, 2 hitting enemies with a sniper rifle on Insanity mode. But many times I end up trying to shoot a mob that is fused with the floor or walls. They can be killed melee but if you play on insanity you will be long gone before you can even get to them. 1 mob can destroy my vehicle within 5 sec. There is only one solid thing that deserves praise in this game and that is the scenery. Gorgeous to look at so a plus for that. It is like some said - we got an alpha product filled with glitches and bugs - few game breaking ones, horrid animation, cringe worthy dialogue, mediocre voice acting, predictable outcomes. (Still playing the game so won't say plot... yet... mediocre for the moment) The 40 mil has gone through the airlock it seems. Praising this game is insulting to many 3A games. Encouraging this will only give us more games like it and we Really don't want that. For the price it is now, it is not worth it. Mass Effect Andromeda (Deluxe Editions) from Bioware/Ea/SJW - *Shut up and give us money!*
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
i just think people aren't really appreciating it for what it is. the reason it got so much hate was because people chose to compare it to the previous mass effects. now you'd say "the previous were better" but that's because you've got this idea of what the game is "supposed" to be rather than making up your mind on it as a standalone game. as soon as i got past the 3 hour mark i started to stop thinking of it as "Mass Effect 4" and began to think of it as "Mass Effect: Andromeda" I really began enjoying it so much more and at this point i can honestly say i prefer it to the original trilogy (and i played the whole trilogy a month before the game came out so my memory is still fresh). so i urge people that want a space exploration game that will offer them a fun combat system,countless hours of single player gameplay and a decent co-op mode (that is alot like ME3) go out and buy this game. i know most people will have made up their minds right now but seriously don't skip this game just because it doesn't fit the image of the game you thought it would be I'm not defending EA, they are still greedy mothafuckas who don't deserve all the cash they're getting, but this is the entertainment industry, you wouldn't boycott a good movie because it was made by Warner Bros. why boycott a good game? (this is definitely an AAA title BTW)
@kaiathunder6269
7 жыл бұрын
You are not defending EA and they don't deserve the cash but making people buy this game now is doing just that. The boycott goes deeper than the game from the many videos I've watched and complains I've seen. The ones responsible for this train wreck should never touch big games ever again. This is a Mass Effect Universe so it is normal to compare old protagonists with new ones and their stories. And I think people compare this game with the 1st because a product and animation 10 years ago was much more alive then now. Again, Bioware is known for great story and characters that is why many of us grit our teeth through the first Mass Effect gameplay and didn't regret it in the end. Same with SW Kotor. Andromeda might have improved in gameplay but Plot and character wise the game fails to captivate many and a lot of times during the game they are wondering why they are doing this. ME:A - a game that won't make you regret leaving without knowing what happens in the end. People can easily get bored with all the shooting and grinding for materials. Buy the game now... you crazy? 60$+ for the 3A disappointment of the year. Don't be me or greek (mostly me that is regretting giving so much money for a game and a stupid space monkey... If I knew I can get a free space hamster as a pet, I wouldn't have bothered getting the deluxe edition) Wait for patches to see what are they even doing to fix the game, big sales 50% (preferably 70-80%) or don't buy because you really aren't missing anything except jetpack jumping/dash and using tech/biotic/and soldier skills at the same time combat.
@JustAgreekPassing
7 жыл бұрын
ok well i guess it's my guilty pleasure i really liked the gameplay and the story compelled me to play more (albeit very straightforward and not as well written as the previous). it does also get repetitive at points but that's what you can expect from most quest-based RPG's. i just don't understand why people HATE it so much. i haven't finished it yet so it's not the type of game to have me racing through it but the more i play it the more i can appreciate it for what it is and i'm definitely not going to "put it aside"
tldr: the game isnt shitty, just review embargo made people hate it. well heres mytwo cents, people think the game is shitty becouse the game is shitty, i find it hilarious that the two redeaming points people bring up are combat and multiplayer, you dont fucking buy ME games for multiplayer, you do it for story and immersion, witch it lacks
@SigWahrheit
7 жыл бұрын
No man, it's the haters, you don't understand. It's the fault of KZread and embargoes and the Russians somehow, I'm sure. Also players who bought the game, and those who haven't bought the game. Really just everyone other than the people responsible for the making of the game are at fault here. Game is fine dude!
@FaustSketcher
7 жыл бұрын
@Xqctax fucking thank you. So tired of people trying to justify this game so hard. The main points of Mass Effect, being story-telling and characters, is missing in this. And thats why i won't buy it. Combat looks like fun ye sure but for that i got better games out there that on top of that have better story, voice acting, and character design. Maybe if so many people think the game is bad, its because it simply is bad. And having watched hours of my friends playing it on youtube, yap it looks, and sounds bad when it comes to story, dialog and characters. All i want in an ME game.
@joeaverill2986
7 жыл бұрын
FaustSketcher if you believe all of the negativity on youtube, then by all means, its your right to do so, but you are missing out on an awesome game. I finally completed my first play through of the game and the story is rich, fun, and indicative of the ME stories. Are there some minor bugs, sure, but show me a game that doesn't launch with bugs. But hey, can't please everyone. I for one am happy that I spent my money on this game and have no regrets.
@lgvereor
7 жыл бұрын
joe averill it's not awesome at all, it's a pile of shit disguised as a game, developed by multiple piles of shit disguised as developers.
@FaustSketcher
7 жыл бұрын
i don't "believe" the negativity. The game is bad, for me. I have watched quite a few hours of gameplay now. The original game wasn't stellar when it came to animations for example, and the combat was just average for a 3rd person shooter. But voice acting was in general very good, the characters were generally memorable, specially those in your party, and the story was excellent. Except for the ending of the 3rd game which was a bit of a mess but ye. From the hours i've seen of this, the main reason to play a Mass Effect game is not there. The animations are generally hideous, i can't get into conversations where characters look like... idk some weird species trying to act like a human. The eyes are all over the place, blinking is slow, only the mouth moves, no head gesturing, nor eyebrow movement most of the time, and the eyes are simply done wrong, ask any artist or designer. The line delivery is also weak in general. And some moments, CRUCIAL MOMENTS, like your father's death, are so poorly done. I have lost my father, my friend did too, I can fucking assure you thats not how people behave. The overarching story is pretty average from what I've seen so far, might get better, but I don't care. I can't get into the game if the delivery of the story is so damn bad, at least from what i expect on a Mass Effect game and tbh any game in general that supposedly should have an interesting story, considering its legacy. The gameplay is the only thing that i find interesting in the game, but i don't play mass effect for the gameplay first. And there are other games that have good gameplay, and good story/delivery. I might sound harsh but this is supposedly a pretty big franchise and some of the work is stuff even small indie studios have done better. For such a big franchise, i can't understand what were they even thinking and how this was even released as it is. If you can get over the botchered delivery and animations, thats great, but i personally can't on such a story-reliant game.
The game has a 74 on metacritic, which is far lower than the previous games. I understand why fans are upset. It simply does not live up to the standard set by its predecessors. To say the review embargo is the actual problem with the game is ridiculous. The real problem with the game is that its developers made an average game for a series that frankly required excellence as that is what the previous game where. Excellent.
@dledman
7 жыл бұрын
Oh I think the devs knew the game lacked what was required by their deadline - hence the super late and unfair media embargo to secure as many pre sales as possible.
@MeldinX2
7 жыл бұрын
Yes it's not as good as the previous games. But to say its a bad game is far from the truth. It might not be a 9/10 AAA game but if you like RPG's and enjoyed the previous ME games then you probably will find enjoyment in Andromeda. I would give it a 7/10 or something.
@ApocGuy
7 жыл бұрын
bad' not at all, but it has failed to deliver what fans of ME expected. What is worse is, that they had enough time to polish the game and make worthy successor for original trilogy. but no, they had to rush with release, hence day1 patch, wonder how many more on the way, just to make game as it supposed to be at the release.i aint going to pay full price for half made product.Until they patch it up properly I'll stick to original Me trilogy.
@MeldinX2
7 жыл бұрын
Well i blame EA for that. They always like to rush games out and only care about some quick cash. Still i own the game and i find it pretty decent so far. It will hold me over for a couple of weeks until Persona 5 gets released atleast.
@synapse913
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry Meldin but Bioware had 5 years to hash this one out. It's entirely on them that they chose to hire people with no experience. Joke-tier animations that will provide memes for years to come Bad writing Bad voice acting Bad menus MEA is pure shit. Bioware figured they could take a dump in a box and slap the Mass Effect label on it and get away with it. I hope they're wrong.
I don't get how so many people are acting like bad writing, bad voice acting, and bad animations aren't such a big deal in an RPG. It's a fucking RPG. What made the first two Mass Effects was the writing and the encounters you had in the game. The great story. That is why those two games were good games. If they wanted to focus on combat and put zero effort into the elements that are important in a good RPG they should have named this something else and made it in a different universe. THAT is why people are pissed. Because we're not looking for an action game, we're looking for an RPG when we play Mass Effect.
@d.f.6334
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton Nope not all of us. I started with Me2 and continued with 3 and I loved 3 a whole lot more simple because the combat felt so much better... so you see where I'm going with this right Andromeda ticked all the right boxes for me, the story is about as blant as the other 2 Games but the combat is just so much fun for me. Anyway thats just my 2 Cents on why I am having fun with the game and sorry that it is not what you were hoping for/expecting.
@bdelsouza
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton This!!! some people are simply making excuses for the game, and not even clever ones. it's just stupid.
@Plainsburner
7 жыл бұрын
I only really disliked a few lines, and all came from that same characters so I just chalked it up to a character flaw. The rest isn't amazing, but I would never really call the writing in the original trilogy great either. The only really amazing thing in the original trilogy was the characters, and how your journey affected them.
@alexnil1230
7 жыл бұрын
exactly, some people, like TB are like "but the combat is good! that's what's important!" As if people remember killing random merc no.1098 in ME2, no we remember the characters, the story and our choices, that's the important part of ME games
@trenchcoats4life891
7 жыл бұрын
btbrotherton I actually think this game has worse combat than Mass Effect 3. I hate the jetpack and all the bouncy jumps in this game. I feel like I am playing Titanfall.
What I really don't understand is why, after so many rushed video games put out by EA (DA2, ME2, ME3), EA continues to push their games to release before they are ready? I know full well that it doesn't all fall onto one plate for all of the blame, but I think we can all agree that if there was more time for Mass Effect:Andromeda to be polished and more of the kinks worked out (animations, variation among races, CC, better musical score, etc), we would have been presented with a more refined game than we currently have. I love this game for all of its faults, as it brings to the table elements of combat and exploration that are amazing and the best the franchise has to offer, and not to mention the characters in this game, albeit a tad annoying at times (Cora I'm looking at you), are very loveable and relate-able and the most important of all, believe-able. Honestly, EA should be able to take a page out of Nintendo's book with regards to delaying games. The quote is something along the lines of: "A delayed game is eventually amazing, but a rushed game is bad forever". I am in no way saying ME:A is a bad game, and it certainly doesn't deserve all of the flack it is currently receiving. I'm just saying this game could have been better, and if given more of the time it deserved, could have been the best instalment in the franchise.
@revanruler6404
7 жыл бұрын
yeah the witcher 3 had a smaller team and budget and they made a masterpiece so no fucking excuse
@xyr3s
7 жыл бұрын
actually the main bioware studio was busy for 4 years working on anthem.... so Andromeda was delegated to a support team... i think CDProjektRed had more experience after 2 games than a support team that had never made an entire game before.
@irllcd13
6 жыл бұрын
EA wants all the money and they want it yesterday. Why bother spending the time making a good game over 4 years when you can rush a shitty game in 2 years and make just as much?
@st4ne4rmthevill63
5 жыл бұрын
@ColdFire no it's not. EA made Bioware focus on Anthem & regulated MAE to a smaller team with less experience & backup.
"There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidences." - V
I like the fact you point out how getting shady review policies for either building hype or grabbing some bucks...but I feel you try too much to depict the negative opinion as objectively wrong. They decided to hide info, to not cure the game properly, to immerse into scandals and problems, and this is the logical consequence they deserve. When " it gets good after a couple hours " became a game defense? The first thing they present to the public is problems after problems, uncured and ubresolved at launch. Andromeda deserves to fail because this cannot be the standard, the game can be on a single leg because we buy everything with a brand name. Andromeda has problems, not that bad, but has problems. The game got shunned because it's the last drop into an industry convinced this quality is ok today. And surely the only defense cannot be " it gets better later " or " they are not judging the entire full game, so they are not entitled to have an opinion". It's the producer job to reel me in, not our job to suck everything in.
@Keldiur
7 жыл бұрын
CrowMercury Thats the thing. People saying FF13 gets better 10 hours in... if I cant take a story driven game seriously in the first hour, I will stop playing and go back to another game. So yea. I got the first game for 20 bucks and got 2 and 3 release day. Will be doing the same for this game so if I dont like it, it is a meal not a bill.
@CrowMercury
7 жыл бұрын
And to think I always believed that was a joke, that no one could be so stupid to defend something with " oh, but it's good if you can use your free time that you want to expend enjoying it to get through the cringy shit. ". It wasn't a joke, sadly, someone was really that stupid. I prefer something with an amazing story and a crappy ending. Yeah, pretty much Mass Effect 3 was way more deserving than this, I only have to shut down the game after killing Marauder Shield. Here no, I have to suffer. When it became a praise and not a condemning argument, still trying to figure out.
@LoomisTook
7 жыл бұрын
CrowMercury You are so right man. There all these other games coming out made by people who seemed to care more about earning your money, why should anyone pay for this. Bioware is not running a charity or a soup kitchen.
@Suztvfan
7 жыл бұрын
I never understand the critics who say that you have to wait to get the good stuff or that say it doesn't deserve the hate because it's decent even if it has some problems especially when it is in a series that is known for quality. This is with movies, games etc. Why settle for mediocrity? Why buy something that has some obvious problems and make excuses for it instead of judging it by what it's delivering and criticizing it. I want good games, I want good movies so I am going to complain about the bad things in games otherwise they would never bother to change the quality. People who make excuses for bad media just because it's their favorite franchise (Like Batman vs. Superman, just because it has batman and superman doesn't make it great. You want a great movie for those heroes, I want to see them shine and I don't want the piece of garbage we got and let them get away with it.) like Mass Effect. We want a great Mass Effect game. We won't get it if you don't criticize the bad stuff because they know that they can get away with bad work. Vote with your wallet. Want a good Mass Effect then don't buy Andromeda because you will be just settling for mediocrity.
@LoomisTook
7 жыл бұрын
Suzanne Niemeijer Someone gets it.
Criticisms of the game are now "hate" and any video that someone makes criticizing the game are "hate filled videos". Toppest of keks!
@bailaohu7819
7 жыл бұрын
Similar strategy to what sjws employ when you say it like that.....and ME4 is a sjw fest.... Huh. Go figure.
62 hours in and loving this game. I am baffled by all the hate.
@Jordan1000
6 жыл бұрын
Oz Osgood me too!
@st4ne4rmthevill63
5 жыл бұрын
Spent 110 hours in the game. Had a great time. Combat & exploration are the best in the franchise. Could be better for sure but good for the $25 I spent on it.
Honestly, I love this game. The ONLY significant "flaw" I've seen is the facial-animations. Aside from that, it's a very big game, and it's early in the release. There's little bugs here and there-- Some enemies might get flung through a wall and get stuck. Some event-triggers may not pop up when needed, prompting you to reload. The Dialogue? Every game has some cheesy dialogue. It's NOT that bad. It isn't making me roll my eyes or cringe. It's situationally-appropriate. The combat is EXCELLENT. It doesn't get stale, the combinations of abilities and how the abilities react differently with different "profiles" makes it incredibly diverse and, coming from someone with more than 40 hours of game-play in so far, it DOES NOT become stagnant or dull or repetitive. The exploration is a bit tedious at times because of the long travel-distances on some maps, but even that is made a bit more enjoyable by the different terrains, and the controls for the Nomad. All in all, being about 38% of the way through the game so far, I'd rate it a solid 7/10.
Wait what? Origin access has been there for a long time not just a month as you say. And it always offered free 10 hours trials of every games, even the new ones. You're being misleading there. Also, if somebody subscribes to it, you can cancel renewing it right away with keeping your membership active. If somebody forgets about such things then I can only imagine these people are rather dumb. I like your videos, but this one is a red flag for me.
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noting this. I made sure to correct this information in the pinned comment.
@itsJPhere
7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 10% discount you get with Origin access. Purchasing one full priced game while subscribed for a month is cheaper than not subscribing and buying the game. If you're going to buy Andromeda it's a no-brainer to also subscribe for a month if you like to try other games as well.
@darkstryder401
7 жыл бұрын
I don't like EA at all but on most of their games you have an hour or so to return the game after you have played it. Its not all of them but I know I have returned a couple. They returned it no questions asked.
@TheMagicalPinata
7 жыл бұрын
So basically the majority of the argument on this video is null an void? Well except for one, where it was that youtuber's try to make a quick buck off the hysteria. Keeping this video up knowing that a big portion of the argument is invalid... I do hope the irony is not lost... haha But I am glad he is not just hate bashing the game. I love it.
@ivangeorgiev42
7 жыл бұрын
It's not because his argument isn't based on whether OA is 1 month or 1 year old but on when the review embargo date is set, considering there's OA.
I think it was a culmination of a shitty job done on a AAA title with poor writing and poor mo-cap as well as having virtue signalling political undertones which pushed it over the top on the media embargo. The game had negative PR long before its release thanks to one of the DEVs being accused and rightfully so of being a racist against white people. PLenty of evidence to support that claim. The game also went through multiple different studios, and was plagued with dev issues from my understanding minus the ones I stated.
@gennarosavastano9424
7 жыл бұрын
shot in own foot for them,especially considering most of people who buy it and play are white
@Chris-ji1gi
7 жыл бұрын
I only heard about that dev a month before the game came out to be honest. and from what I've seen of it, the game tried to be like Inquisition and failed hard.
@SSeanMan
6 жыл бұрын
You're joking, right?
@geneparmesan8748
6 жыл бұрын
Philosopher Stone - I hear a lot of people complain about "racism against white people", and in a lot of cases its laughable.... but Manveer Heir (the Dev in question here) is actually, unquestionably racist toward white people. I think the "virtue signalling" is debatable, though this game came out during a hot phase immediately post-Trump election when both diversity - and opposition to perceived "forced" diversity - were huge points of contention, so it was an inevitable conversation to be subjected to.
Actually The Witcher 3 is the problem IMHO, especially when you bring a new RPG to the table from now on. It doesn't matter if it's dark fantasy, futuristic or whatever, The Witcher 3 raised the bar massively creating a detailed huge world with a very amazing story-line (main and side stories), which you can cause real impact and have your own experience depending on your choices along the game. I am an example, I don't necessarily expect games as good as it and even less better, but at least very close, I expected that from Mafia 3, Final Fantasy XV, Androma and the next RPG, open world games or story telling based games launched from now on. And to be honest, none of them fulfilled my expectations so far...
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Yes this is why I made that Witcher 3 video :)
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just watched that video before and this was the first thing that came on my mind. Now I know why I'm so disappointed with Mafia 3 and it's goddamn repetitive gameplay
@clonitza
7 жыл бұрын
W3 was a bug fest for almost half an year. Gameplay (not the story) was enjoyable only when they released new game + and the first DLC.
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Mihai Micu The fact that is the most rewarded game ever made in history agrees with you.
@clonitza
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it's not one of the best games ever, I'm just saying that its release wasn't smooth either. :)
...What a "classic " EA release.
@FortisBinary
7 жыл бұрын
I honestly blew up when I read that :D Thanks mate, you reminded me that ppl still know who is at fault (most of the time anyway.....)
@marieevebeaudoin3654
7 жыл бұрын
Yes we still have it
people are still pissed at mass effect 3s ending.
"Rushing through the game to put out a bargain bin review" Yeeeeessssss!!! Nearly every review I've seen is like this, including the bigger channels. This was an excellent video.
Personally I liked the game, yes it has its flaws and issues (the lip-sync is what irks me the most tbh) but let's face it, MEA could have been much worse.
"It's because people want validation for what they believe in, regardless if they are right or wrong" - Downward Thrust
@John-vm2zi
7 жыл бұрын
As Nietzsche once said, there's no such thing as right or wrong.
@famtomerc
7 жыл бұрын
cognitive consistency: people want to search for consistencies and validations in their beliefs/behaviors and will tend to thrive to areas with other individuals who think similarly. example: /pol/,trump rallies, reddit, etc
@SarcyseTiranin
7 жыл бұрын
Nikola Tesla The statement there is no such thing as right or wrong presuposes the idea of the statment itself being right, therefor validating the concept of right thus destroying itself.
@SuperAvocadoo
7 жыл бұрын
"And all the Mass Effect fanboys found their validation here with this video, regardless if they are right or wrong"
@monkinsane
7 жыл бұрын
I loved ME 1,2,3 (OK had an issue with 3 - THE ENDING) - but ME:A - sorry i'll pass. Bioware fucked up big time.
I think many people are using this game to indirectly punish EA for their past misdeeds. I am by no means saying that EA doesn't deserve the hate (their deplorable anti-consumer behavior alone is enough to warrant it), but I do believe that some aspects of the game get a disproportional and irrational amount of hate as a result.
@irllcd13
6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but ME:A was a massive disappointment regardless of people's overraction. It's a great example of a "meh" game. Utterly unremarkable that does nothing well, a lot of things so-so, and a few things legitimately badly. ME:A was the first BioWare game that I did not want to immediately replay. And I still have had no desire to replay it. When I heard there would be no singleplayer DLC, I did not care one bit. The villains were lame, the angora or whatever those blue people are called suck, the plot is uninspired and boring, the characters are uninteresting, the writing and dialogue is laughably bad, it's buggy, and that's just right off the top of my head. And, I know it's old, but it really does have to be pointed out: Those facial animations are a travesty. The fact that they made it through to release is embarrassing.
The REAL Problem With Andromeda That Everybody Is Talking About? It's still a piece of shit.
I honestly dont understand the criticism. Especially for the glitches I have not experienced. I can think of many games that had huge success and were filled with glitches all the time. *cough* SKYRIM *cough* People are being such divas. I don't see what standard they are comparing this game to because a lot of the criticism seems to be pointing out trivial errors I have experienced in numerous other "good" games (like the original mass effect, or mass effect 2 where I was stuck floating in the air). I think the people hating on the game are just butt-hurt that they don't have a good PC or console to play it on. Also I hate the "the first mass effect had much better exploration" (it didnt) or "why is there no Garrus?" its a new game, I expect something new. People have all these criticisms like "the writings bad" and then when you ask for an example its "I dont know I havent played it" or "I cant provide a specific example". Yes its animations are wonky sometimes, but such small eccentricities have been overlooked for many other games, why are they the downfall of this game? There will always be patches and bug fixes. Sometimes you need real players to find bugs, no amount of play testing could discover all the things that can go wrong, especially in such a huge game. Just a side note, although I have heard there are all these glitches (never seen a specific example) I havent heard of anything gamebreaking.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to express my opinion on this game, but since the OP of this video seems to not be outright trashing the game, I figure most people would be open to new ideas around here. Anyway. I played through the first three mass effect games right up to the launch of mass effect andromeda, and despite all the hate it got, I still bought it. One thing I notice in every review of the game is "The animations are bad, writing is mediocre, and there are glitches galore." This is true, for the most part, but people also convienently forget when the frostbite engine works perfectly in conjunction with the good animations, and we get cutscenes that look like some from the Battlefield 1 Campaign. Another problem with reviews is that they seem to imply that mass effect andromeda is worse than the first three games, sometimes outright saying that. If we ignore our nostalgia and the fact that the original trilogy had 3 whole games to build characters and their backstories, the games aren't *really* that much different. Granted, I won't comment either way on the story, since I've yet to finish it in mass effect andromeda, but the story in the first three games is probably the most generic scifi story out there. The writing in the first three mass effect games, just for the characters, is probably on par with mass effect andromeda, and had enough cringey dialogue to not make mass effect andromeda seem alone in that account. And on the subject of glitches, remember when garrus' upper body wouldn't move while his legs did in me3? Or when you would get stuck under the map by a singularity thrown by benezia in me1? Or how about the most hyped up mystery of Tali's face being a stock photo photoshop? There are countless time across the original trilogy where your companions weapons would disappear in cutscenes, and remember how your weapon was always an m8 avenger during cutscenes in me3, despite whatever weapon you had equipped? Or perhaps how everyone held a hurricane smg like a pistol in me3? Honestly, some of these are more annoying than a backwards gun in one cutscene in mass effect andromeda, or the aforementioned disappearing guns. And on top of that, mass effect andromeda has the best gameplay, multiplayer, and graphics out of all of the mass effect games, which more than makes up for its shortcomings if you compare the game to the original trilogy. My point is that if you enjoyed the original trilogy despite its shortcomings, Mass Effect Andromeda isn't a horrible game. Its just another Mass Effect Game, put in to the uncomfortable position of having to live up to overinflated hype and nostalgia, when in reality its pretty much on par technically with the other mass effect games. I commend anyone who actually reads all of this.
@logandavis3083
7 жыл бұрын
Seriously. i played me2 last night on pc during the beginning on the citadel the lady who interviews you.Her fucking arm bent backwards when she was talking on the recorder shit was creepy as fuck. But guess what after 5 seconds of laughter I went on with the game.
@IXIGamesrulesIXI
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang that's interesting considering Andromeda is my first Mass effect and I really like it too. Maybe one dar I'll go and play the Old mass effect games
@hollowkiller1011
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang real mass effect fans dont care about animations or cheesy dialogue they just care about a good story and good characters which to compared to the originals this is the worst in my opinion and yes story does get ruined time to time with those facial expressions you cant help it my ryder looked like he was orgasming when drak dropped the guy to his death like wtf that does kill it abit
@Lord_Poyo
7 жыл бұрын
If by cut-scenes you are referring to the full-detailed cut-scenes and not the in-game ones that use the 3d models, then yea, they damn well better have superb graphics and animations for those. People aren't debating about the "movie styled" cut-scenes because those are done through an entirely different way, and only account for about 10% of all the games display. People are complaining about the rest of the 90% of the game where the animations are absolutely terrible. Comparing a game to its predecessors is in absolutely NO way something wrong nor something based strictly on nostalgia. Basing something on nostalgia is to say that a game is bad because it doesn't do everything exactly that same way that its predecessor did. That's basically expecting to get an expansion of the game. In fact, comparing a game to its predecessor is the BEST way to review a game, because any sequal game should be a better version of what the previous game was, otherwise people will feel they are either getting an expansion if it is the same, or getting a crappy game if it is worse. Also, yes, the game did have 3 whole games to build characters stories, but it also had a first game. That game was Mass Effect. In this first game, they introduced new characters (oh, just like Andromeda! Would ya look at that?). The difference? Those characters were fun and interesting, because they were new creatures and just had like-able personalities. Most of these new characters seem more bland (with exceptions), not to mention that we get literally ONE NEW SPECIES IN OUR ROSTER. Yea, we get he Kett as enemies, but every new Mass Effect introduced a new enemy species , aside from the third? Well, they added Cerberus as an enemy. Anyway, yea, whole new Galaxy and a game that is supposed to revive the franchise with fresh, new adventure, new places to venture, beautiful things to see, and only one new species to buddy up with. So instead of putting on their thinking caps, they thought it would be a grand idea to simply fill our roster with old, "already had three games with" species, and one new species. Hell, they even REMOVED a species. Wtf happened to the Quarians? Did they just die off somewhere? They didn't think this would be a fantastic pilgrimage, to go to an entire new galaxy? The glitch counter is simple: So because an older, previous game has glitches, it's okay to have vast amounts of glitches in the new one? Really?
@SkankHunt007
7 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Adang The term "Jaded Gamer" often comes to my mind when I hear and read negative comments about this game.
Let's not forget about the fact that one of the leading devs on this game is a massive racist.
@YunGGenO77
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken he was a person of color, so he wasn't racist, Power + Prejudice = Racism. #ReadUp
@ryloken4297
7 жыл бұрын
MrGeney Are you joking?
@AS-hb9op
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken If you mean Manveer Heir you should know he doesnt work there anymore
@syn3rgy66
7 жыл бұрын
MrGeney Any color can be racist.
@Fatheroftearsx
7 жыл бұрын
Rylo Ken and let's not forget people like this guy right here who want to bring their political bullshit into a game and ruin it for other people. I don't care if he's racist that's not my problem I'm a gamer not a social justice Warrior like you
After a week of actually playing this game, I feel perfectly justified in saying it's garbage. It isn't just animations and character models, either. It's writing, game design, interface design... the entire package is flawed. I've literally never seen so much poor writing in a triple-A title. Bad writing is common, of course, but it's usually confined a specific thing-- bad characterization, or a weak plot, or bad dialogue, etc. ME:A manages to do it *all* horribly. You have boring characters navigating a derivative story presented via uninspired, phoned-in missions, and spouting awkward, cheesy dialogue as they do it. It's 32 flavors of awful. When you add terrible character models and outright embarrassingly bad animation to the mix, it becomes truly comedic. When you consider the ridiculously over-priced 'collectors' editions', and the inevitable glut of excised-from-the-main-game "DLC", it's just insulting. Bioware and EA have shown a real disregard for their customers with this game, and I don't see why anyone would make excuses for them.
I didn't play Mass Effect 1-3 yet, just started with Andromeda and in my opinion the game is great, I really like everything the game offer 🙂 Well written characters, side quests which are not repetitive as in newest open world RPG games, the main story, relationships between crew, and the world! Also choices are important so, I personally recommend the game. More interesting than an example AC Origins, or Odyssey
Honestly, highly enjoy the game as a fun of the series. Giving references to past installments as well as giving us a fresh new take
MORAL OF THE STORY, JUST MAKE THE GAME GREAT, DON'T TRY TO RIP OFF GAMERS. SIMPLE, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. IF ITS GREAT THEN SURELY MANY WILL BUY, REGARDLESS ANY REVIEWS.
I bought the game ahead of time because I loved ME:3 which, until the crappy ending, was the best written game I'd ever played (talking story and characters here, not gameplay). ME:3 was well paced with a growing, impending feeling of doom and loss that made the final battle very meaningful. The characters, most of whom we'd grown to love over the course of three games, were extremely well-developed, deep and evolved over the course of the trilogy. When Thane had his moment, I was grief-stricken. When my Shepard went out for that final battle, I had a knot in my stomach because of how important the battle was going to be. I had a knot in my stomach with Andromeda also - but it wasn't because the story had me hooked, it was because I was tired and extremely frustrated by the puzzles within the puzzled, the FED EX quests, the meaningless "fix-it" quests and the story line that stalled out for hours of gameplay. I found my companions (with only one or two exceptions) to be extremely shallow and annoying with dialogue that suggested their emotional age to be about fourteen instead of late twenties early thirties. I found Liam's "all we are saying is give movie night a chance" crap tiresome and his loyalty quest made me want to kick him off my ship. I also saw a KZread article showing how the developers deliberately made the female Ryder ugly compared to how she looked in the Con demos and they did this in that last minute patch that we got during installation. I hated that most of the women looked like recovering meth heads, I hated that my chances to make a pretty female were very narrow. I hate that all the Asari look alike (How cliche is that?), I hate how juvenile LIam was, I hate that the only other human male you could romance had a kiss as the big scene. I hated the "go team" dialogue, and I hated the fact that just when the game started to introduce some interesting story elements - it was over. Despite all the things I hated, the game wasn't terrible - it just wasn't up to Bioware's standards particularly in the areas that are most important for their games - story and characters.
Dude a game like Mass Effect with enormous expectations can never be defended for not living up to those expectations. You can't go and overpriced the game because they know we love it that's a No-No, and you can't make a crappy game and have us settle, no no no no! And also in this day and age you'd think Mass Effect Andromeda will completely blow everything else out of the water hands down.
Hey guys - hope you watch this one all the way through...takes a while for me to get to my point.
@Fatheroftearsx
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust I'm sharing this video wherever I can great review
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend! Always appreciate the shares :)
@lolblade
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust thank god you said pre order was garbage should've just had the standard edition , $20 for a gold vehicle skin and 2 armor sets, and blueprints and shitty weapons but the blueprints are nice but this is single player shit. If I paid $10 more I would've had a "multiplayer weekly bonus" lol
@somegwent901
7 жыл бұрын
I actually thought you gonna talk about the writing in the game LMAO
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Oh lord...no. :)
fallout 3 and NV had the worst face animations but the stories (main and side) were amazing
@JohnSmith-ef6sv
7 жыл бұрын
Everyone called those games ugly when they came out. The issue here is the animations/writing/voice acting are worse than they were in ME3. How does a game that comes out 5 years later get worse?
@theminionator1652
7 жыл бұрын
John Doe New team and engine making a game isn't easy and animating hundreds of NPCs isn't easy either. Not defending it I hope they patch it but you know.
@Explicitghost
7 жыл бұрын
It's a completely different game from 1-3. The writing is expected to be different. FFS the writing isn't even bad, the only issue is select cringy lines out of 1,000,000.
Honestly, I love this game. It's storytelling can be a little weak and it's animations take a while to get used to, but it's gameplay and story pacing is probably the most fun out of all BioWare's games. I love the concept, and sense of adventure it inspires is epic. I haven't been so immersed since The Witcher 3.
This game has had the [Fallout/No Man's Sky Effect], or, more specifically, where people over hyped the shit out of it, so much to the point where people's perspectives for the game have been falsely inflated, expecting too much that what is actually offered. Now yes, EA is partially at fault for not giving out information. However, you need to understand that coming from a person who's never played a Mass Effect game until now, and also a person who doesn't inflate their opinions and perspectives because of hype, so with that, games like Fallout 4, No Man's Sky, and now Mass Effect Andromeda are very good games, but people blow the actual negatives out of their mouths 10x worse.
The game is a huge step back in both gameplay and story.
For the people who are doubting if they should buy mass effect andromeda or not I want to say that I was super worried because of all the average and bad reviews but I bought it and its a really good game, it has its flaws of course but I´ve been having a ton of fun and I would recommend you buy it no doubt
@maciejponku260
7 жыл бұрын
And that's the opinion (or even better one) of anyone who actually played the game for considerate amount of time. When someone whines about MEA, just ask them if they actually played the game, or just saw youtube videos of people whining.
@chrisleeharvey
7 жыл бұрын
I've played it extensively and when compared to the other entries, the characters and the cultures of the alien races that made them interesting have been neutered. The inability to give orders to your team members was a bad call. The combat is not as good as everyone tries to make it out to be. Multiplayer is ok, but i don't see how they are saying it's better than mass effect 3 because it's the same. The voice acting has no direction so the lines are given in an emotional vacuum with no weight behind them.
I am sure this will be a good game for $20 or less.
@Strawhalo
3 жыл бұрын
It is $10 on amazon
EA access for console not only lets you play new games early, it also gives you 42 free games, including all the previous Mass Effect games, Star Wars Battlefront, Titan Fall, and a slew of sports games. A yearly subscription is only $25, and with all the free games, it's really a tremendous value.
Why is no one talking about the fact that this game story is as bland as bland gets? I mean hell, you get to "A new galaxy" and everyone you seem to meet uses guns that look like yours. Major races seem to be mostly Humanoids... I mean, hell. How is anything in this galaxy new...
@NoOne-gg5mc
7 жыл бұрын
I've always had that problem with humanoid aliens using guns since ME1. Sorry for being blunt, but why are some people only noticing this three games later?
@yourtourguide5898
7 жыл бұрын
Well I've only played an hour so far, but I can say that if the pathfinders were heading for a specific galaxy with a planet or planets that could support human life, it's very probable that most or all of the major species their would be humanoid. I mean every race in all the other games (barring the hanar) was humanoid. It's fun to hate on things, but this complaint is really....really dumb. Plus the setting isn't the story. You say the plot is bland then you describe the setting? What? I give this comment a solid 5/7.
@popcornfilms1
7 жыл бұрын
+YourTourGuide that's a good point , there was also a theory about either Prothean or reaper meddling in the evolution of various species. I could get over it in the original mass effect trilogy for various reasons. But the lack of variety in A NEW galaxy is nothing but fucking laziness and it's a real shame. More recycled horse shit
@550077
7 жыл бұрын
"it's very probable that most or all of the major species their would be humanoid" - 99.9999 % of species on Earth are not humanoid, not even remotely...
@NoOne-gg5mc
7 жыл бұрын
It actually goes beyond technology. Concepts like religion, government, institutions and even something simple as hand gestures are far too similar to humans that it has broken my suspension of disbelief multiple times. They are the convenient aliens, a trope that has existed since Star Trek. ME:A is just staying true to their established formula.
I canceled my pre-order for one simple reason. Manveer Heir and his racist comments. The fact that Bioware did not make a statement by firing him really told me that Bioware does not care about openly racist devs in there company.
@EliseoRocha
7 жыл бұрын
taylo226 I never heard about this one. It's too bad, I REALLY wouldn't have bought this game if I had. I already wish I didn't as it is.
@sebmsst8534
7 жыл бұрын
He was Fired uctually.... way before ME:A was released.
@xcaluhbration
7 жыл бұрын
taylo226 That Manvier guy isn't that bad, y'all had me thinking the worst. I say far more inflammatory things than that every day, who cares? I wish Bioware would've just kept him and said "we're not firing him just because SOME of you got butt hurt, were tired of being held hostage by language and political correctness, grow a pair and learn not everyone thinks like you". I bet people would boycott for 3 days and then lose interest and move on.
@xcaluhbration
7 жыл бұрын
SableBez 😭😭😭😭 PLOT TWIST!!!!!! That's so wild that I got the impression that a SJW was a racist cry baby from another SJW crybaby (the op). There's a lesson to be learned here I'm sure.
@LordBaronsworth
7 жыл бұрын
Wtf, sjwception, hahaha.
NOT the REAL problem with Andromeda.
You have an interesting take on this. Animation glitches such as derby mouths, tired faces, double Drack's, twin Peebees etc seem like easily fixable errors that people should call out, but not nitpick about. However this game is still dragged down by two issues that it mostly cannot fix. The first is leaving so many loose ends untied. The quarian ark should have been in the base game, not a DLC hook, Jien Garçon's murderer should have been caught, the jardaan' motivation for terraforming world's and creating the Angaara should have been given some explanation, the Scourge makers and their motivation for deploying it should have been stated. DLC and sequels should add to a complete story, not be used to complete an incomplete story. Remember how the first two games did leave you with a sense of "everything is complete here" so it is time to seek new adventures? That is missing here. The second major error is the way they have setup the explorability in what is supposedly an exploration game. Mass Effect 1 had lots of planets where you could just land on for a small side quest, explore around it and be done. Over there you really did feel like you actually visited more planets. Here, you only have about six planets you can really explore, while everything else was only surveyed, not explored. Keep those outpost and vault based planets as hubs, but without a mission or quest drawing me to each and every single star system in the cluster, it feels like there is no compelling reason to go to most of them. I got bored of endlessly scouring an already explored map just for a bunch of fetch quests.
@HalNordmann
3 жыл бұрын
1) They wanted to make DLCs and maybe a sequel, so they intentionally let a lot of plot threads loose so they would have something to build on. 2) The original plan for the game was to have procedurally generated planets (like ME1), but they had to drop that due to time constraints. So, the finished game only has a few.
Is it me or are the game companies getting worse? I feel as if the only good developers are in indie games these days.
@stulego1
7 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of corporations, like originally there was a good idea there but was replaced with a company culture of "oh the customers will buy it anyways." Which is partly true but only for a while.
@Senumunu
7 жыл бұрын
big corporations eat the small ones. secure a form of monopoly because of all the capital that they can accumulate first and the quality drops since there is no "real" competition anymore. there is no way you can compete with a 8500 man team and millions of profits from games like fifa/madden and co. it is just a shitty situation that we can only fix if we unite as gamers and demand quality. no more eating all the shit up that they puke out.
@S7ARBOY
7 жыл бұрын
Yummy Pancakez have you never heard of CDProjektRed? The Witcher 3?
@stulego1
7 жыл бұрын
before witcher 3 CD projekt red was practically an indie developer.
@S7ARBOY
7 жыл бұрын
stulego1 They technically still are. But they're big enough. You call Witcher 2 an indie game? lol
Personally, I'm really enjoying the game. I notice it's faults and animation issues, but I mostly just laugh those away, and hey, I'm still enjoying it right? I do think, however, that Andromeda's faults are highly over-embellished. If you're over-embellishing, then that's a LOT of embellishing. See what I did there? Anyway, the combat is fun and fast paced, a lot more dangerous I think than the last game. Enemies aren't so easily "gamed." Bioware also did a great job at making me really feel my character. I truly feel like like a rising star that came out of the shadows and is beginning to earn the title I inherited. The worlds are vast and unique with a lot of fun stuff to do. There are some fetch quests and cliche side missions, but I've mostly avoided those thus far, because there's plenty of meaningful and relative side-quests as well and they all tend to tie into the the greater whole of the story. Every game has it's faults, this isn't the witcher 3, but as far as sci-fi space epics go, Mass Effect still takes the top in my opinion and is STILL in the running for top 3rd person shooter with heavy rpg elements in my book. :)
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
wayne Jacobs I would like to point out that everyone defending this game essentially all end up saying the same thing. I'm starting to think that anyone defending this game are only doing so because they want to "go against the flow." Which is to say, they think their opinion will matter, because it's not said as much, around them
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
+fighterdemiter Everyone attacking the game is saying the same things too, usually some combination of "it has bugs!" (which it has, but they're nowhere near as common or as catastrophic as people claim), "the women look ugly!" (which is... definitely debatable) and just the all-purpose "SJWs ruined it!" (how? Where? They never seem to be interested in specifying that part).
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Björkman Are you serious? The bugs in this game were absolutely considered catastrophic. This game was So abhorrently bad that the company suspended progressing the storyline, on top of the fact that they didn't expect it to be that great, from the get go. This is, what I'd consider, one of the Worst games that has come out recently
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, entirely and completely seriously. What the bugs are "considered" to be by hysterical people such as your good self I cannot answer for - I can only say that objectively and to a sober observer, they're a bit annoying but nothing to get upset over.
@fighterdemiter
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Björkman if you pick up the game, now that they have finally released another patch for it, I guess you could say that it's okay-ish. The graphics are still sub par but atleast now it's somewhat playable 👍
One small critique from my part. They still have to work more on the human eyes. If you wanna have a good character model, eyes are veeeery important. Tiny movements during a conversation, shadows, tone, expressions. That's what makes Witcher 3 character models great. You have the feeling the characters are alive, thinking and feeling, and not just some 3d models.
Lol I thought this game was great. Ryder was hilarious, such a relief from the never ending awkwardness of Shepherd
Or maybe the game is simply shit? KZread hype can work both ways. It is not necessarily negative. A title for a positive video can be just as clickbaity as a title for a negative video. Claiming the game suffered because people's voices were louder than the voice of the marketing machine, and that it is somehow a problem, sounds incredibly cynical and misguided.
@Zreolur
7 жыл бұрын
The game isn't bad though, it might not be as good as witcher 3 or horizon zero dawn but that doesn't mean the game isn't good. If you enjoyed the first 3 ME's then you should enjoy the new one just as much, the first 3 ME's had massive flaws as well yet were praised as the best games ever so i don't see why people think this one would be any different. After having played ME:A i decided to go back and replay ME 1-3 and TBH they didn't age well and feel like subpar games with shitty story/dialog.
@lolpauve
7 жыл бұрын
Dude, the point of the entire video was that there was uncontrolled snowballing/hatred on a game for a select few reasons from people who didn't have a complete picture of the game.
@Zreolur
7 жыл бұрын
+lolpauve +elija mikle ^this 100%, I completely agree with you on that, i also think a big problem was people still had a lot of anger from original ME 3 ending as well and wanted this game to fail.
@Solaxe
7 жыл бұрын
oh shut up the game is fun. It has some problems but it's still very enjoyable. And I was VERY sceptical
@thegrandnecroposter6782
7 жыл бұрын
Kakto Tak Have you even played the game?
I like the game still playing thru!! Im having fun playing thats the point
Mass Effect Andromeda, the only Mass Effect game I will probably never finish. Is it bad? Yes...
The real problem is that they decided to release this game right after Nioh, RE7, Horizon, Nier Automata, and Zelda. All games that cost around the same price and that are far superior in quality. Ah, and also that have no ridiculous bugs.
You *nailed it* with your observation of how "people just seek validation for their already made up opinions." That statement applies to everything, *not* just videogames. You really need to be *open minded* to see things from another perspective.
@huneylove5
7 жыл бұрын
I agree, but at the same time, people (Especially Downward thrust) seems to use these excuses to validate why he likes it. People didn't "Dream up" problems as they are actual problems which he purposefully glosses over to blame the player base. I am all for thinking critically but he is clearly being an apologist here.
Sry but the cake for the biggest game that people wanted to hate (this year) goes to For Honor. ME:A being the 4th game in the series, means it has less excuses for sucking, due to past experience. Bioware (EA) keeping ppl like Manveer Heir on this project is the REAL problem that NOBODY is talking about. Good thing that in the end he "left". But not until, the dmg was done. Have a nice day
Sometimes i feel like i am the only one who isn't getting affected by all these "problems" at all. I play Video-games to have Fun. I always did. Remember TES: Oblivion? The dungeons were boring and generic as hell. The animations and basically all the characters were absolutely horrible. But it was still a masterpiece game. Or remember Dragon Age Origins? It was released 2009. GTA IV was released 2008. Now don't tell me that Origins looked good for it's time. Even Modern Warfare 2 looked better. But still...Origins is till now ONE of the best RPG's ever! So you get my Point? People are hating and criticizing games for the wrong reasons. Not always...but very often sadly nowadays.
Just 4 hours into the game I encountered way too many bugs and the ones that happened afterwards were even worse, game-breaking even. From getting stuck in between objects, my character suddenly walking extremely slow and doing a broken walk animation, enemies getting stuck behind walls, enemies being launched into the air after being shot ONCE, land vehicles suddenly exploding for no reason or launching into the air only to blow up after landing, getting killed during character interactions and cutscenes, clipping through the world, duplicating NPCs, bugged facial animations (as if the original ones weren't bad enough) that looked like nightmare fuel, some parts in which the lighting didn't work properly, sudden appearances of NPCs that shouldn't be there (or maybe it was just Alec haunting me, not just him appearing in T-pose for no reason), and finally, the bug that made me quit (should have done so earlier), a corrupted save. This game was an absolute mess, how anyone could defend such a broken fiasco is beyond me. I've played through all the Mass Effect games and they never had such terrible bugs and while their animations weren't so great at least they weren't as awful and awkward like in Andromeda.
After 13 hours of gameplay I'm really enjoying the game.
The early slandering videos on youtube were pointing out extremely bad animation, very bad character models, and really bad, wooden cut scene animation. You portray this is a sort of slander. And say as much. However, reviews ( check metacritic ), say the same. And even though the people hadn't played the game, their assessments in the end seem accurate, compared to later reviews. Therefore it's not slander, and this video has no point. It's all gravy. Early videos of the game " slandering " the bad animations and character models were entirely accurate in what they were noticing. If this had turned out to be an amazing game? You'd have a point. The real problem with this game is people wanted a NEXT GEN really shiny Mass Effect. With a 5 year development people expected something pretty special. Or at least decent. This game does not look next gen. This game takes obvious and painful shortcuts. That's the problem with it.
@Plainsburner
7 жыл бұрын
He said those early videos were hateful, not slandering in themselves. Though he did say that led to others slandering it to make a buck. Also the dialogue is the only real problem I had with the game. The combat, environment, and overall gameplay really is state of the art. I am still wondering how they messed up so badly with dialogue animations, when the animations everywhere else are very good. I also found certain scenes where the dialogue animations were spot on, so it wasn't bad everywhere.
@Blackemperess
7 жыл бұрын
Even someone working for IGN pointed out those issues and that is *_never_* a good sign.
@marcelomuniz4972
7 жыл бұрын
Actually The Witcher 3 is the problem, especially when you bring a new RPG to the table from now on. It doesn't matter if it's dark fantasy, futuristic or whatever, The Witcher 3 raised the bar massively creating a detailed huge world with a very amazing story-line (main and side stories), which you can cause real impact and have you own experience depending on your choices along the game. I am an example, I don't necessarily expect games as good as it and even less better, but at least very close, I expected that from Mafia 3, Final Fantasy XV, Androma and the next RPG, open world games or story telling based games launched from now on. And to be honest, none of them fulfilled my expectations so far...
@besg5725
7 жыл бұрын
You do realize there is a thing called the "bandwagon" effect? Furthermore, there are entire groups of trolls dedicated to trash this game, because it offends their delicate feelings. If you, or anyone of your kind really wants objectivity, wait and check the reviews. See some footage for yourself. Mass effect 1,2,3 has always been story focused, cover based combat games. This game takes coverbased combat out, it is "open world" and so on. It has crafting. This game cannot be a 1 star game. It cannot be a below average game. At worst, its an average game. And for now, the only good thing about it is the setting and the scenery/graphics and perhaps the gameplay. It certainly qualifies as average.
@TheHikeChoseMe
7 жыл бұрын
ya he is..he's just a fan boy. you realize as consumers we have every right to expect quality in the good we buy
I'm loving andromeda. it has its problems but it's still decently crafted and feels like a return to form for the series.
Mass effect 2 Mass effect 3 Mass effect: Andromeda Mass effect (a drag to play due to age) Andromeda is not bad at all, it's actually really fun. Yes it isn't as good as the original but potential is! The legacy of the original trilogy is what brought the score down. If andromeda came out as a with not history of the original it would get great reviews. It's the Star Wars original trilogy effect! 7-8-9/10 for depends on what part of the game you're in!
I love the game. It has a very blatant wall in the game, about 5-10 hours in, where everything feels bland. But after you can over come that wall, which honestly takes about 20 hours if you are a completionist like me, you get an awesome last 45 hours of the game. The last 45 hours honestly made up for the initial wall. I was very surprised with the final loyalty missions for ME:A, where the climax of each character made me love their personalities even more. (With the exception of Cora, I still think she's bland.) All in all, the game is good. Doesn't deserve this level of criticism, but as your video suggests, they might have deserved it with their marketing strategy. We all hate EA, but love the game franchises that they own.
TL;DR: The narrator is a fanboy apologist that feels that the failure of Mass Effect Andromeda is the result of shifty publicity tactics taken by EA before release, and that the quick to criticize gaming "community" was simply hating for the sake of hating and personal profit. The narrator completely tosses aside the empirical fact that ME:A was downright INFESTED with bugs and poor developer choices. The narrator is trying to shift blame away from the developers (Bioware and EA-Romania) and drop the steaming pile of dog shit on the laps of their marketing departments. *The issues players took with "Mass (D)effect: SJWs in space":* The politics being involved in the company and it's employees (e.g. Manveer Heir, blatantly racist against whites on social media, specifically heterosexual white males, EA and Bioware's main consumer demographic. Forcing feminist and SJW ideologies and perspectives onto a consumer that thoroughly doesn't give a shit.) The hideousness of female characters, while at the same time making male characters look hot (Peebee looks like a orc that's been painted blue compared to Liara T'soni. Fem Ryder's face looked like complete ASS, and the don't forget the "My face is just tired" lady, with her makeup that made her look like a fuckin' clown") THE AUTISTS IN 4CHAN WERE ABLE TO MAKE MORE ATTRACTIVE CHARACTER MODELS IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES USING PHOTOSHOP. A full zergling rush worth of bugs. Everything from randomly exploding vehicles due to broken physics, to floating/trapped enemies, to teleporting mission waypoint markers, to inescapable zones that require save reloads. A shitty plot that was not enthralling and dialogue that was abundantly cringey. 'nuff said. Abysmal animations, particularly facial animations, and incredibly flat cut-scenes. This is the result of EA's decision to outsource animation and gameplay development to its Romanian branch of developers, EA Bucharest. This was also combined with the refusal of both EA and Bioware's upper-management to allow Bioware's game developers to go over and provide touch-ups to EA Bucharest's character models, as Bioware did for all the previous Mass Effect titles.
@bernardo4157
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier TIL that liking something that everyone hates makes you a fanboy
@blindeagleace3629
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier Can someone tell me what this guy is talking about? I just got done with the game last week and I thought Cora and Suvi were attractive. I personally like PeeBee free going attitude. What's SJW about this game? So far, I played it twice and I still don't get it.
@stephenseputra9897
7 жыл бұрын
The Halberdier still tldr
@kenji214245
7 жыл бұрын
They did a great jobb fixing bugs and smoothing out animations after the backlash. I mean game came out March 21 so that is quite a lot of time to work on it.
Thank you for helping me put things into perspective again. I realized now that while the issues with Andromeda was all true, there are other good things about it that didn't get the attention simply because the trend was to hammer Andromeda with its negative points. Come 4th April Bioware will reveal its plan on fixing these issues and there is still hope that they can be fixed. Many games have trouble launch survived including Diablo 3 and FFXIV and given Andromeda only a week old, anything can still happen. Question is how bad do the fans want it to work? as opposed to people who don't.
i havent played mass effect games in years..... when i go back , i ll make sure to start and finish andromeda whatever people say. It is still one of the best space rpg latest release.
@GeorgeG90
7 жыл бұрын
fell free to reply and tell me a beter single player space experience except star wars and dead space series. I m open to try other suggestions.
too many bugs. horrible voice acting & script.
@grannydeg9728
6 жыл бұрын
TMSKILZ did you even play it? The voice acting was mostky damn good
@SvenTviking
6 жыл бұрын
When I got it, there were no, as in Zero, zilch, nada, none, bugs or glitches. As for the script and writing, it was much the same as the firsts ME trilogy. It was just fashion to slag off the writing. A hatchet job was done on the game by the Fanboys.
@Teeb2023
6 жыл бұрын
"too many bugs" Nonsense. Some bugs, yes. No different than any other game.
@LNJuggernaut
5 жыл бұрын
The bugs that were there were fixed in patches and the voice acting was great
The real problem with Andromeda was Mass Effect 3. Unlike what seems to be the consensus, I thought ME3 was trash from start to finish. There is a distinct decline in quality of exploration, writing, and characters from 1-3, and unless I saw anything significantly improved in the promotional material, not buying Andromeda, and encouraging my friends to not buy Andromeda, was going to be my petty revenge for ME3. Bioware just made it too easy to mock with squat, hobbit-proportioned character models (How do you screw that up?) to inhuman faces, to hilarious animations. The writing clearly continues it's downward spiral with awful dialogue and clearly no understanding (or flippant disregard) of the established lore. I hope Andromeda tanks hard commercially and either kills the franchise for good, or spurs on a real Mass Effect Game.
@Soldierjason1
7 жыл бұрын
It's not Bioware's fault you stupid idiot. EA was putting the rush on Bioware to get the game out the door. Another thing is that reviewers are glorified whiny brats who deserve to sit on a shotgun and when they hear a click the ride is over. More or less these people whine about every little fault a game has rather than honestly posting that while cutscene animation is bad and some missions are unresponsive the overall storyline and combat is better than Mass Whining 3.
I agree with most of what you say in the video, however, I think the biggest issue for ME:A is not the animation problems or the lack of consistency with ME lore. The problem is amount of game breaking bugs that are out there, I for one got to a point far into the game where the game is so broken I need to restart the whole thing (80+ hours in). and there are so many people out there that have the same problem THAT is why ME:A is getting so much hate, and the silence from the devs / EA / Bioware doesn't help at all.
The real problem for me was that, about 30 hours in, I just realised I was too bored and left it alone. I can't imagine I'll finish this ME.
it's just me or this game was created for younger audience (compering to shep trilogy)?
I'll put it bluntly and in a simple manner. Your 8 minute youtube video has better writing and editing than the entirety of Mass Effect Andromeda.
@Keldiur
7 жыл бұрын
AlshepType Zing!
@NoFunney
7 жыл бұрын
Someone hasen't played the game
@AlshepType
7 жыл бұрын
WE BRING WAR I have, matter of fact cleared it. I dragged myself through its horrible campaign, dialogue and characters cause my brother gifted it to me.
@dustinweist1605
7 жыл бұрын
The stotry was amazing in my opinion. Loved it every step of the way.
@gangstalker47
7 жыл бұрын
WE BRING WAR But he is correct.
I've played through the previous games a few times, except for ME1, which I only finished once. The first few hours of Andromeda remind me of ME1 in the sense that it's a really slow burn. Arguably, ME1's opening hours were a bit more action packed than those of Andromeda, but man - you really had to stick it out for that game. Clunky UI, some seriously slow moving plotlines, bugs galore, and just evidence that this was a game trying to find it's place among RPGs of the time. It had a huge payoff at the end, though! What an ending! Mass Effect 2 was the best game of the first three, in my opinion. Yes, scanning planets for resources was kind of lame, but strangely relaxing... It featured the best character building in the trilogy, threw difficult decisions your way, and made you care for your crew. The ending was satisfying, and the hours you had sunk into it beforehand felt meaningful. I'm hoping Andromeda eventually builds the same relationship. It takes time to get to know your crew, and it definitely takes time for you to care about them. ME3 had excellent gameplay, huge production value, and other steeples of a great game. I usually say that 95% of ME3 was amazing, because that ending made me want to molotov the EA/BioWare headquarters. Luckily, it had a surprisingly engaging multiplayer that kept me coming back! In closing; as a fan I've enjoyed different aspects of all the previous games, despite their shortcomings. I think we're forgetting how big of a part nostalgia plays in our thinking process. It's a shame that Andromeda suffers from clunky cutscene animations, and that it's pacing and writing is getting flak. As a fan, I'm hoping that it turns me around, and engages me like the previous games, in it's own way. Oh, and the multiplayer is really fun!
1:01 "Way before print media, people bought games in stores, knowing absolutely nothing about them." No matter which way you _meant_ to say that, your entire premise is broken. Before print media existed, people knew absolutely everything about that ball-in-a-cup game they could buy in stores. Magazines that specialized in reviewing computer games existed long before computer game stores did. Online forums that specialized in reviewing computer games existed before computer game stores did. Shareware demos existed before computer game stores did. Even if you're completely illiterate, you could see screenshots on the box, before buying it.
Is it weird I've never experienced most of these glitches said to be in this game? 0_0
@XBezerkerX
7 жыл бұрын
Same. Not one.
@spawncap9009
7 жыл бұрын
I had more glitches in PS4 Pro mode, but less when setting PS4 Pro to 1080p resolution. I usually set game to show helmet in conversations (I have with all ME games not just this one). I LOVE all the endless side missions, have always enjoyed it when a game has a ton of missions to do instead of one or two choices.
@nguyenbagiap7433
7 жыл бұрын
One glitch today after 50 hours session. PC. Most of glitch is on CONSOLE to be fucking honest. Console suck for a game like MEA. Really, really suck.
@DazikLP
7 жыл бұрын
55 hours in and I've had; -One weird transition going into a conversation with Vetra -An enemy that got stuck in the air leaving the drop ship -One enemy that got stuck underground -Ran into an invisible wall that I had to jump jet over while going into the slums on Kadara. -The facial animations aren't perfect, but that doesn't really bother me I saw someone demonstrating the "bad walking animation" and you could hear them hitting A and D as fast as they could while running to make them do that. I dunno about you, but that seems like an acceptable amount of bugs for how long I've been playing.
@N00bPr0ducti0n
7 жыл бұрын
im like at the meridian mission on regular ps4 and the only two glitches ive seen are the stickman glitch (what i refer to it) and sound engine issues. Facial problems are fine with my character but i created custom female character anyway
Blaming the review date for a fucked up product. New low achieved.
We have to come to an era where consumers defend corporate. This is why we get endless DLCs - microtransactions and unfinished games. There is no such thing as over-criticism when it comes to businesses - consumers relationship. In a market with perfect competition, businesses should make no profit at all. The fact that business makes a profit, suggests a market failure. Thus the saying: "consumers are always right". I can see your point that the media is over-criticizing ME: A, but it's always better to over-criticize than to under-criticize and buy a bad game even though it is bad.
Thank you for having courage to stand out from so many other youtube gaming channels that jumped the hate bandwagon for easy likes and subs.
Not 'worst game ever', but definitely worst Mass Effect ever.
People do tend to blow things out of proportion, especially the cancerous YT channels that live off of drama. While I do *not* defend EA for their committed atrocities, the game itself *is* fun tbh. No, it's not as inspired as the original series, the most dumbed down character creator ever and the human models + animations are pretty bad for a 2017 game, no excuses there, but the gameplay itself is fun at least. Aside from that and the cringy writing in some places, the aliens look good and the textures are high quality. I'm around 20 hours in and I haven't gotten bored yet. Sure, they did make some terrible mistakes, but to call the game "trash" is vastly exaggerating. I kind of understand the RPG fans, though. Maybe that's why I can look over the game's faults, I went into the whole thing knowing this is more action-focused than RPG. Anyway, I sent EA a message and bought it for 35 bucks from grey market, was definitely worth it.
@theodorehodbor5080
7 жыл бұрын
I wish more people were like you, that understood the game had flaws, but it wasn't absolute trash either.
@sorinalexandroiu
7 жыл бұрын
"wasn't absolute trash"... So well worth 60 to 70 dollars/euros, right? It's a AAA game with a super price tag that it does not deserve.
@MortalReaver
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree but sadly the main reason i really liked Bioware games, because they had great characters with great dialogs. Which is why i liked DA2, while it reused dungeons, the coversation with characters were great, I also like more tactical and strategy in games, in the end from what i played in trial, i saw everything I liked about Bioware games gone, and that is why i will not even consider buying Andromeda even if they fix all bugs in game
@bailaohu7819
7 жыл бұрын
You hinted at it...but if a final fantasy fan buys FFXVI and they get RE4, they're going to be pissed-and rightfully so. RE4 is a good game as a action-survival-horror game....but imagine if that was supposed to be a rpg. Or imagine if a Gears of War fan bought Gears of War 5 but they got fucking Kingdom Hearts instead...again....they're going to be fucking pissed-and this is assuming what they got was as good as RE4 and Kingdom Hearts for the respective genres. Imagine if the FF fan got RE4 with RE 2 camera angles and The Elder Scrolls Redguard facial animations? The way I see it, ME4 is a mediocre, mindless action-shooter with exceptionally awful facial and movement animations along with nausea inducing dialogue...marketed to a fanbase more on the RPG spectrum. They really should have made it a new IP...but gotta cash in on brand recognition.
@jimbob1862
7 жыл бұрын
My problem? The story, setting, quests, characters are all incredibly mediocre. Those tenets are what Bioware's entire reputation was built on and what made them so great. Look how many of us suffered through the iffy gameplay of ME1 because the game felt alive and was so engaging. They've done a complete 180 with this game and focused purely on gameplay and forgotten to focus on the tenets that gave Bioware such selling power. Do I think it's a trash game? No. I think from a gameplay perspective it's solid. Overall I see it as decent, but riddled with so many issues (animation, awful voice direction at times, crap character creation/character models, bugs and glitches) that I cannot in good conscience recommend it. I expect better not just from Mass Effect, but also Bioware. Hell, even ME3 had a far better reception to this and that had an ending that ruined the franchse so hard they had to soft reboot it by moving the next story to another galaxy.
This video does not deserve the dislikes. The reasons it listed are why I try to distance myself from gaming's simultaneous culture of hype and jadedness that swirls everything down into this weird maelstrom of dissatisfaction.
Can entertainment companies in the US not focus on business and money first and _the actual entertainment itself_ second? Like "hey make sure you pay full price for a game that you've only seen teasers for, and pay full price again once you find out that the real game you're looking for might be somewhere in those future patches. Oh and we are going to throw you a quick trip to Vegas so you get broke fast from our very own slot machines." Thanks, guys, gaming really is art. Art of self-destruction.
I played all four of their title so far and the only problem I see with this is animations. I find this game to be really fun and I'm having no problem enjoying this game, haters are just going to want to hate that's all there is to it!
@Explicitghost
7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that most of these "critics" haven't even played the game. The game is really good, I think only ME2 beats it for being the best in the series.
@wowthatbolivar4400
7 жыл бұрын
"really good" Ok. I'll need to look at a history of your opinions on other games and a run down as to why you enjoyed any other titles. I played through all 4 games and I thought this was a huge disappointment. Let me guess, you found it to be a relief that you really have no *real* impact on the plot and renegade options were too problematic. Thank god they removed huh?
@CountBrass
7 жыл бұрын
So now other people aren't allowed to like things you don't like? Jeez.
@stevestevens6384
7 жыл бұрын
Aravis Tarkheena People love to hate other people's enjoyment
@Taketheshot56
7 жыл бұрын
Neal Jenneve graphics don't make the game.
Unless they stop their SJW pandering bullshit and debug the shit out of their games, I'm not buying any Bioware titles ever again.
@bigbadbootydad6633
7 жыл бұрын
Le Kanraposte I keep on seeing people say that this game is a big SJW, what made it that?
@kernel8803
7 жыл бұрын
Xbox Assassin, For me and others, the women in this game look very unnattractive, especially compared to the way the women looked in the previous trilogy. In what seems like an effort to prevent the objectification of women. Now I'm all for that, no person should be viewed more or less valuable based on thier looks alone, howerver what irritates me, is the fact that the male characters. based on the models used to create them look exactly like their in game counterparts. However when you look at the female models that the female Ryder was based on, you can see that they made the ingame Ryder significantly less attractive. Which really seems like the sjws at bioware are saying it's ok for women to look at handsome men in games, but we can't dare let men objectify women at all. Its the hyporacy of it all. If your gonna go that route go all the way or not at all, make All the characters ugly, not just the women. On the surface it may seem small, but i just cannot stand hypocracy, and for a game which gained part of its fame for the in game relationships, it helps to build those relationships if there is some attraction, just as in real life.
@JJ-il8vf
7 жыл бұрын
Some objections are as follows: - Major players on the development and animations teams were either blatant anti-white, anti-men, etc., etc., which some claim spilled over into the finished game. - The lead animator was some girl straight out of college who had no real animation experience and was only notable for being a professional cosplayer, leading some to claim that Bioware was hiring only on a basis of diversity than getting people who could actually make a great game to begin with - Some have claimed that the female characters were made intentionally ugly to cater to the Anita Sarkessions of the world so their game couldn't be accused of pandering to the "male gaze" concept SJWs push so much - an objection which may be valid seeing as the woman used as a model for Adromeda's female protagonist looks absolutely nothing like the character itself while the male default protagonist looks absolutely like the person they modeled him for - Some have also claimed that the character creation in the game does not allow for a white player, seeing as the lightest skin tone you can select is hispanic in appearance - and seeing how many of the developers were virulently anti-white racists the claim would make sense
@kernel8803
7 жыл бұрын
Michael Tepes, it has nothing to do with race, I am black and i hate how the characters look, I dont care at all what race they are.
@farmsalot1233
7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Beetle racists work everywhere, using that logic don't buy anything.
I like this game where it matters. 1) The Gameplay 2) The relationship progression and 3) The main character. In my opinion, all those are its strengths, there's more I'm sure, but off the top of my head, I like what they did with it as far as those are concerned.
I agree, a lot of people pissed on this game before ever giving it a fair shake. It's actually a really fun game... for those of us, (like myself), who ignored everything leading up to launch and just played the game for ourselves, it was a lot easier to enjoy on its merits.
CAN you be more condescending, please?
I've heard this dumb argument before. "If only you had gotten the official reviews earlier..." Do you honestly think that if a gaming magazine had given it an 8.2 then I wouldn't notice the terrible animations, boring story, cringy dialogue, etc. How often have you seen a movie that was complete shit and still somehow had a 89% on Rotten Tomatoes? I actually trust youtubers more because they are unfiltered and have little to lose by being honest.
@nguyenbagiap7433
7 жыл бұрын
"little to lose by being honest". LOL LOL LOL Your defiance is naive and reckless.
@cassl5905
7 жыл бұрын
Have you played the game?
@cassl5905
7 жыл бұрын
Jeka Peka yup
The only good thing about this game is that it makes me appreciate ME3 that much more, warts and all. The return to Mass Effects roots is admirable and the game sets up just enough of the world for the players imagination to expand on it, but the technical failures and backwards design choices cripple the experience before any of that world building can take root.
To be real here, I don't think many people "wanted" to hate it. They wanted to love it, but the developers haven't mastered their own engine, they don't know what rare means and they have no clue what made Mass Effect what it is. It deserves every bit of criticism it has got and continues to get. There are some good points, but the bad is pretty bad and they should feel bad (not the individual doing the work necessarily, but their leadership and the team as a whole).
Just got Mass effect after playing Horizon Zero Dawn, I feel like Horizon made me a spoiled brat!
@9696gamer
7 жыл бұрын
I think The Witcher 3 made me a spoiled brat. But on the other hand, if CD Projekt can deliver an outstanding RPG with nearly perfect scores... why can't everyone?
@WhiteBeard640
7 жыл бұрын
MrWilliam DeathEsq. Yeah the Witcher 3 is one of my favorite games
@DownwardThrust
7 жыл бұрын
Not enjoying it?
@9696gamer
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust Maybe it's just me but I was hoping for Andromeda to surpass ME3 by a mile. When I look at it now, it didn't even surpass ME1. Granted, the combat is the best in the series perhaps but I myself don't play Mass Effect for the combat. I expected to be invested in the story and the characters, yet I found myself falling half asleep while pursuing the main quest. The only interesting characters were Jaal and Vetra in my opinion, even Drack wasn't that enticing. And if it came to dialogues, the writing was abhorrent at times. I'll just say "my face is tired" and you should get my drift. It's obvious that what remains of BioWare is just a puppet of EA and producing cheap games at full price. I was hoping for an epic revival of my most beloved Sci-fi series and what I got was a snooze fest from start to finish. Sorry to say this'll probably be the last BioWare game I ever lay my hands on.
@WhiteBeard640
7 жыл бұрын
Downward Thrust it's not as bad as people are making to be, but not amazing either. It's not great just good.
Actually there's an essential plot hole in this story that completely undermine the existence of this game - which, at the epitome of irony, could've been completely avoided had EA let Bioware go on with the original Mass Effect story (black energy.) #spoliersahead See, the Andromeda initiative is the organisation leading the project of colonising the galaxy of Andromeda (hence the name of the game) with the help of their space colony ships, aptly named "Ark(s)" with each being equipped with an Artificial Intelligence, named "SAM", programmed to guide and help the colonists in that endeavor. Though the game's context is set 600 years into the future, the "Initiative" was launched *prior* to Mass Effect 3 and around Mass effect 2 and took centuries to reach it's destination. Here's the problem with this game, according to the lore : *it can't happen.* Why ? The answer is simple : Reapers. Remember that, according to Mass Effect Andromeda, the real reason why the Andromeda initiative was founded in the first place was to allow a portion of each species population to survive the oncoming onslaught of the Reapers, back in the Milky Way. The problem is, in order to make the trip possible, the Andromeda initiative needed two things : the Mass Effect Relay technology and the computing capabilities of a fully operationnal Artificial Intelligence. And who created the Mass Effect relay technology as it stands ? The Reapers themselves. That means that, in the first place, the technology that allow the Andromeda Initiative to escape from the Reaper's harvest *was made possible by the Reapers themselves*. I am NOT making that up ; the reason why the Reapers are causing periodic mass Genocide in the Milky Way is, according to them, _"in order to prevent Organics from being wiped out by Synthetics of their own design"_ . In other word, Reapers fight against other synthetics by killing the organics that created them. But here's the thing : EACH Ark ship of the Andromeda Initiative is LOADED with an A.I. In essence : *the Reapers granted the Organics they were supposed to kill the technology to escape the cycle **_WITH_** the technology and knowledge to make Artificial Intelligences the Reapers were supposed to protect them from*. It's basically like a Shepard taking care of a herd of intelligent sheep with the intention of shaving them during winter so that they don't die because of cold, while leaving all the doors of your ranch open, your truck's dor unlocked with the keys still in the contact and a one-straight way plane ticket to Norway siting in the glove compartment. It's just plain insane. Yet that's what the game sells us. So here's the plot hole : if the Reapers allow those ships to escape, that completely invalidate their initial statement about their motivation, precisely because they allow anyone with Artificial Intelligence to escape. But if they DON'T allow such thing to happen, then they would've either sabotaged those ships (indoctrinated agents) or intercepted them before it could happen. Since Andromeda happened, that means that the Reapers don't follow their own reasoning, therefore that the whole story of the original trilogy is pointless from day one. Thus this game cannot happen.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
That assumes that the Reapers are infallible, which they are very clearly not. At the time the Initiative launched, they were scrambling like crazy to get their big invasion of the Milky Way in the face of repeated setbacks. Why would they waste their limited number of agents on preventing a paltry 100,000 people among the galaxy's uncounted billions from escaping? Especially since they'd have all the time in the world to hunt down the Initiative once they'd won the war.
@Tenhys
7 жыл бұрын
_"That assumes that the Reapers are infallible, which they are very clearly not."_ Your argument assume that, over the course of MILLIONS of years, the Reapers didn't think about the basic of basic when building an enclosure for livestock : don't leave any room for escape. ANY modern farmer on earth, today, knows that basic rule. And the very fact that *not a single trace of civilization prior to the Protheans* had ever been found is proof that the Reapers are absolutely thorough with their Harvest. In fact, apart from Javik for the Protheans, the only other species known to have survive the Reapers' harvest are the Leviathan - A.K.A the Reapers' creators - which have been hiding from the Reapers and the Harvest from the first cycle, back MILLIONS of years ago. Now ask yourself this : if the Leviathan created the Reapers and that the Reapers use the Mass Effect technology, what could reasonably prevent the Leviathans from simply running away the same way the Andromeda Initiative did ? It just doesn't make sense. _"Why would they waste their limited number of agents on preventing a paltry 100,000 people among the galaxy's uncounted billions from escaping ?"_ Why had they've been so thorough with the Prothean's to the point where _barely_ no one even survived ? Do you even understand the principle of "Harvest" in their language ? It means _"absolute genocide"_ . The species are hunted to the point where they simply aren't left any room to ensure survival through reproduction and restart somewhere else. That's the point. If they were leaving tens of thousands of individuals of multiple different species they were supposed to harvest LEAVE the Galaxy WITH the technology of Artificial Intelligence BEFORE they could harvest them, THANKS to the technology that the Reapers *themselves developped and indirectly handed to them willingly*, then it creates a fundamental loophole in their programming that just undermine the whole goddamn thing ! And again, by the time of Mass Effect 1, there hasn't been a single recorded instance of finding ANY xenoartefact of a dead civilization that dated _prior_ to their extinction. That, again, is a fact. That means, by extension, that the Reapers *do* have a way to prevent escape attempt from the Milky Way. If they didn't and the species they were to harvest manage to escape, then their mandate becomes fucking invalid and it becomes clearly pointless for them to continue. See ? That argument just doesn't hold together. If the Reapers wanted to harvest all life forms in the galaxy, they would never litteraly give them the technology to run away from them. That's basic logic. _"Especially since they'd have all the time in the world to hunt down the Initiative once they'd won the war."_ That is nonsense and here's why. In order to hunt down the Initiative, or any other expedition that would've followed the same logic, the Reapers would need to follow them to another Galaxy *outside of their initial mandate*. But what happen if they come into contact with new species in that new galaxy ? What happen if the Initiative shares the technology of Artificial Intelligence with them, or if they already developped it themselves ? Simple : the reapers would be forced to extend their mandate to that new Galaxy, harvesting the species found there. Which means that they'll need to divide their Harvesting Fleet strength by half to survey said new Galaxy. Which therefore inccur and augment the risk of seeing another Andromeda Initiative to happen. And if it happens again ? They would need to repeat the previous process. Again. And again. And again. And again. All. Over. Again. By the time that process would've repeated for the 10th time, the Reaper's fleet would've become so massive and the cycle spread to so many Galaxies, so far away from each others, that the Organics would've ended up coming to the same conclusions as the Andromeda Initiative and the Protheans before them : hiding beacons and other warnings for the species about to be harvested while running the fuck away, warning anyone they come into contact with. The escape attempts would multiply exponentially, thus further preserving and spreading the technology of Artificial Intelligence while increasing the burden of the Reapers, rendering their system of cycle effectively obsolete... In short, from the moment the Andromeda Initiative succeeded at gong away from the Milky Way, the specific scenario describe above became a reality and the Reaper's whole agenda a big ass joke - thus completely negating the plot of the original trilogy.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
The sheer amount of words you're willing to spend on this indicates that you're taking this far too seriously and personally for me to have any chance to persuade you. But briefly and for the record: The Leviathan are actually an excellent example of how the Reapers aren't infallible. They've been hiding themselves away, and the Reapers have failed to find them not just for one cycle, but for every single cycle. The Protheans, likewise, actually managed to hide away what could have been a breeding population from the Reapers, though they still died out for simple, practical reasons. It is canonically possible to escape a harvest, it's just that once you do you're on your own, without the benefit of an extended civilisation to protect you, and therefore at severe risk of extinction in a hostile universe - you know, just like what almost happened to the Initiative. As for the impossibility of hunting down the Initiative, it took them 600 years to reach Andromeda. I'd say that's plenty of time for the Reapers to catch up if they wanted to do that.
@Tenhys
7 жыл бұрын
_"The sheer amount of words you're willing to spend on this indicates that you're taking this far too seriously and personally for me to have any chance to persuade you."_ I'm a technician. I work around functions and principles. Exactly like electricity, if there's something somewhere that doesn't plug well, it doesn't work. Opinions and whatnot are irrelevant in that regard, because they don't matter in front of evidences. That is why i address the subject from a rationnal and collected standpoint, which is based on informations, sources and empirical evidences. Thus you don't have to _"persuade me"_ . You bring forth evidences and informations in your argument with sources and references to back the logic behind it, and this discussion get to proceed naturally. Plain and simple. So far, your argument base itself on simply saying _"the Reapers aren't infaillible"_ but without showing any shred of evidences to back that claim - in fact, you're using shortsighted rhetoric, which is easy to counter, as sole source of credibility. Which i can and will address, now. _"The Leviathan are actually an excellent example of how the Reapers aren't infallible. They've been hiding themselves away, and the Reapers have failed to find them not just for one cycle, but for every single cycle."_ You forgot : the Leviathans were the victims of the *first* cycle. Like anything that comes first, it has flaws - the first cars and planes had very obvious flaws, that *were subsequently corrected and improved upon with each generation passing*. As the saying goes _"you can't stop progress"_ . Technological and scientifical progress forward, not backward. The same goes for the Reapers, to which the Leviathan, despite being a species now known to have incredible psychic abilities (to the point of even deactivating a Reaper at distance), have done yet their utmost at eluding when the Reapers were yet still amateurish with their cycle system. Which demonstrated that, already back then, they were an absolute force to be reckoned with. Now, ask yourself that question : why did the Leviathan not make any attempt at leaving the galaxy and restarting somewhere else ? They still exist millions of years later, so either, one, their lifespan is incredibly long or, two, they've manage to keep a reproductive cycle amongst the surviving members of their species. In both cases there's simply no reason for them to stay sorely hidden and not simply looking for a way to get escape while the Reapers are sleeping. As for the _"how could they do that ?"_ well, indoctrination is a thing - *their thing*. Exactly like the Andromeda Initiative, they could've simply coerced/indoctrinated engineers, scientists and other technologicaly adept sentient creatures, thanks to their "indoctrination balls", create a ship and get the fuck out. In short the Leviathans were both the first species to confront the Harvest and also the known smartest, while the Reapers were inexperienced at their job. Them eluding the Reapers was a simple and logical mathematical equation - planning their escape, an even simplier one. Yet they didn't do it, while the Andromeda Initiative did. That's a blatant contradiction. Nothing more, nothing less. _" It is canonically possible to escape a harvest, it's just that once you do you're on your own, without the benefit of an extended civilisation to protect you, and therefore at severe risk of extinction in a hostile universe[...]"_ That is *NOT* the main reason. Even if a surviving populations of mere thousands of individuals escape a harvest, they still could completely restart their civilization, disregard the dangers of "a hostile universe", as you point out. Why ? Precisely *because of the advanced technological knowledge that they took with them*. You seem to completely forgot one thing : humans, too, started in caves with a populations of mere thousands, barely understanding the concept of "fire". The Earth alone was a hostile environment : diseases, hunger, winter, natural calamities, predators, etc. Following your logic that a bunch of survivors cannot survive on it's own without, and i quote : _"the benefit of an extended civilization[...]", then the human species should've died since day one. (Because, back in those days, humans were indeed survivors.) Since the human species, i real life i might add, have managed to survive and developp itself as an extended civilization, *on it's own*, then your argument has been completely debunked. Onto the next. _"[...]you know, just like what almost happened to the Initiative."_ You mean the same initiative that encountered a catastrophic, cosmic abnormality that they couldn't pick up from afar when their first planned their trip, because it apparently occured in the 600 laps of time that separated their jump onto the Andromeda Galaxy, as straight consequences of the theory of general relativity ? And not due to an extraordinarily potent form of technologicaly advanced robotic species set on a genocide course with their sorry ass ? You know, the same kind of shit that would've happened to a _regular_ expeditions filled of explorators, even if it wasn't chased by said genocidal giant robots ? There's a difference between _"fleeing"_ from someone that is fixated on the idea of killing you and your whole race, and entering in collison with a space cloud of barbedwires. One has logic, the other doesn't. We're addressing the one that is based on logic. Please, don't forget that. _"As for the impossibility of hunting down the Initiative, it took them 600 years to reach Andromeda. I'd say that's plenty of time for the Reapers to catch up if they wanted to do that."_ Two words : General Relativity. Two other words : Keep Jumping. Here's a simple puzzle for you : you're hunting someone in a mansion. That mansion has a following suit of room that, for the sake of this puzzle, extend to infinity. In the first room you got only one door, which leads to only one other room. But in that next room you find that they are two doors, each leading to a different room, that themselves have four doors each. Leading to eight different rooms with each eight different doors. And so on... How do you catch on the person you're hunting, without any clear indication of what door of what room she would've chosen for her escape ? Now, back to Andromeda : the Reapers would decide to hunt the Initiative, while the Initiative would've had years of time ahead of them to escape and jump from system to system. (Because the possiblity exist.) How could the Reapers manages to successfully hunt down the initiative in a *entire* foreign galaxy where they seemingly do not have any presence at all, since there's no mass relay in sight ? Exactly, it's physically impossible. And even is, somehow, they could do it, by the time the Reapers would've managed to catch onto them, the Initiative's technology and the Reapers' existence would've been automatically revealed to the Angara, the Keth and/or any other space faring civilization of that galaxy - which, rationnaly, would've immediatly concluded that they were big danger (an absolute certainty for the Keth.) The result ? The reapers mandate becomes completely jeopardized. And the cycle breaks itself. The plot of the Mass effect franchise crumble on his own. And that's it.
@Baeraad
7 жыл бұрын
Well, technician who works around functions and principles, you seem to have fallen victim to the same fate as many a straw vulcan in fiction - you have neglected to factor in the importance of emotions in your analysis of the situation. The situation with you and me and this dicussion, that is. See, you care to an unhealthy and disturbing extent about his. I... don't. The amount of time and energy you're willing to spend on this assures you victory, irrespectively of which side is favoured by facts and logic. Even if I were objectively right - leaving aside for the moment whether I am or not - there is no way for me to win this discussion without going as crazy as you are. As such, I'll leave you to your frothing but oh-so-logical nerdrage.
I simply love (sarcastic) the fact that as soon as someone has even something remotly positive to say about MEA people are flocking in to leave comments that usually involved some of these key words: sellout, idiot, shill, fanboy, apologist and so forth. When did liking a game become a crime?
"People want validation for what they believe in. Regardless if they're right or wrong." Some deep shit right there homie.
The game doesnt deserve this hate it received. I completed the game already, and I must say, I enjoyed it very much. For me personally, everything in the game was nearly perfect (aside from SOME facial animation issues, but only with humans). Overall, id say it is 9.5/10 , not 10 only because of those animations issues, which arent that big deal, atleast for me.
@trollhippo8365
7 жыл бұрын
Saurus wow that was fast considering there are hundreds of side quests. I am still struggling to finish 50%
@ralphcondon6700
7 жыл бұрын
The reviews have been accurate, 6 to 7.5 tops. Worst game of the four.
@Saurus7777
7 жыл бұрын
Well ye, you can say that it is the worst of the four, considering the first trilogy is infinity out of 10 :D
@BobSmith-mp8ld
7 жыл бұрын
This folks is why most games today are trash You don't have to even try, nor create an actually finished game and sheeple will still give your pile of shit game a 9.5/10. What a world to live in, unless you have actual taste, then you just sit in despair as trash games flood the market that pay for good reviews so sheeple will throw away their hard earned money on piles of dog shit.
@Saurus7777
7 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith, I bet everything that you didnt play the game yourself, and just jumped on the hatewagon. Instead of attacking and hating the game, you could objectively critisize things about it. But no, hating and writing angry comments is so much easier....
I'm having a blast with it...
@miamorhardstyle
7 жыл бұрын
Its far from perfect...but i think some people just cant take this game for what it is. im only about 6 hrs in but so far it would have to get pretty bad from here to ruin it for me... I dont much care for how much alien sudoku i need to play though...thats annoying AF
@jarededge6419
7 жыл бұрын
JakO prcek I'm 34 hours in and the animations haven't bothered me at all I probably wouldn't have noticed them if I wasn't looking for it. Honestly has all the bugs the most open world games have that I've seen in Fallout or the Witcher. For me it's not the best Mass effect game I've ever played but definitely not a terrible game in my opinion.
@Dragerdeifrit
7 жыл бұрын
me 2, it's a pretty good game, and luckily for me, i have to read subtitles as the game does not include my main lenguage, soooo i never really look at their faces during conversation lool (i can write/read english but can't understand it when spoken)
@brandonraphael34
7 жыл бұрын
I think its a pretty good game as well. The story is not that bad as most reviewers are saying. Yeah its not the best in comparison to the previous Mass Effect titles.and I think the reason for that is the plot differences. ME1-3 you had to save the world, ME andromeda is totally exploration finding a home. The weight is considerably different. But its actually really fun to play
@AstralS7orm
7 жыл бұрын
You mean the rare non-existent black swan of a game? Or just something that, while not perfect, is decent? Let's specify the standard of decency and what you're looking for in the game first. ME:A might have decent combat mechanics (verticality and mobility, yay), but boring repetitive enemies and limited options, though you can switch between the sets of them. AI is a somewhat of a derp still. Story looks to be bland. Setting is more than generic. (ME1 was less generic even, but still.) Level design has one or two highlights, otherwise still bland. Writing is worse than Bioware way back when and it wasn't good either in any of the Mass Effects after all. (They peaked around Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Baal.) Again bland. Characters? Very bland. Graphics are marred by bad animations due to bugs and otherwise. Sound is passable, but nothing special. At least it probably doesn't die on most PCs, though performance is not great apparently. Can gameplay alone pull the game? Perhaps. But I feel that ME:A is not quite the master there yet. Why the AAA budget then? Why the insane and high price? I remember better games selling for less and making lots of money. (Cough, Eidos, cough. Even Ubisoft redoing its thing.)
Everything he says is TRUE. My roommate is such a sheep he was so hyped for the game that even though he already pre ordered it, he got worried there were no reviews or thoughts on the game. So he did exactly what the video suggested. He switched consoles to use EA access just to play it for 10 hours a couple days before the game officially came out. He said he liked it, and then once the reviews started coming out he went, eh it's not as good as I thought it was. .____.
My only problem is when on your female or male Ryders, there’s really not that much attraction to the love interests, that currently in the mass effect relay, I’d sometimes wish that they would create attractive male or female characters, to match their relationships when romancing.
I like your honesty not many youtubers are these days
Embargos shouldn't exist.
@the_OG1893
7 жыл бұрын
SenorSwagBuns any company that trades stocks AND sells public products and services shouldn't be allowed to hide from consumer reviews!
he basically blames the people who bought the game...
I'm over 30 hours into the game and i have about 20% completion in it. For me personally, so far, this game might be better than any of the other games in isolation and only when viewed as a trilogy could i put them higher on my list. As someone who enjoys living in a game-world more than following a story, the way this game has added free-roaming and exploration, it just feels like an actual part of space, instead of a train-ride from one movie-set to another to see some set-pieces... I've spent over 750 hours in Dragon Age: Inquisition and the way this ME-game has some of the parts i enjoyed about that, has made me enjoy almost all the time i've had with it. (tided-face not included)