Thank you James. I am Jewish. I love you.

At the 5:49 mark, the singing is in Slavonic (not Latin) and words are from the hymn sung at the Dormition of the Theotokos (15th August) ”……. you were translated to life, O Mother of Life, and by your prayers you deliver our souls from death”.

@JamesTaborVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that Inna! Good to know. Very touching in any language.

@7Truth7Wins7

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who is putting their trust is Mary's "prayers" to deliver them from death is in for a very rude awakening !!

@cabonlux5344

Ай бұрын

​@JamesTaborVideos Dr. Is there any information on Yoseph in the Qunram scrolls?

Love the videos Dr. Tabor. Your channel is like a treasure trove to us interested non scholars

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

...on the other hand to anyone familiar with the actual source marian material... Dr. Tabor's arbitrary "pick and choose" speculations are underwhelming to say the least...and in particular this one... Merry Christmas Btw...

@babecarla

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 - Why do you not state your "opinion" independently & NOT tag onto Ethan's comment - so not necessary. Be brave & stand on your own ~!

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

@@babecarla I post wherever and wherever I feel it might be most appropriate...appreciated...and I'm so happy you responded ...bossy bossy

@babecarla

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 - Sir, if you are in fact so learned, why do you not have books, articles recognizing your incredible knowledge. If you do know all on Mary - what have you published, that we may learn from you?

@KingoftheJiangl

4 ай бұрын

Your sarcastic disparagement of Anarcho Republican 5954 is noted, and is a reflection of who you are. And we accept that about you.

Great video presentation Dr Tabor, I'm catching up and really enjoying your content. I've just purchased your book 'The Jesus Dynasty'. Can't wait to start it . All the best from a UK fan.

I’m hoping you’ll do a study on Pistis Sophia. I’ve learned so much in that book and I’m wondering what you took from it. I guess I’m assuming you’ve read it. You have touched on everything I study at home and I’m very interested in your studies!! Thank you. Angela

@peterhook2258

Жыл бұрын

You are on the right track imo. His work is awesome.

Excited for the upcoming book!

Perhaps this is still coming in the talk, but at 15:57 I'm curious how this section is positive when Mary is claiming her son has gone crazy? Anyway, great stuff so far 👏 Excited to keep listening.

Wonderful video!

The difference between the image of Mary in the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church is clear as the difference between day and night. In Finland, for example, there has sometimes been a debate about whether Mary would remain a virgin when she became pregnant for a first time or whether she lost her virginity at the latest when she gave birth to Jesus. This is because Mary’s virginity has no special significance to the message and doctrine of Christianity and she no longer needs it after Mary receiving her message from an angel. For example, it has been said that Mary was a human who gave birth to human and if Jesus didn't teleport out of her womb then he was born naturally in a natural way. The Catholic Church will probably never consider and debate anything like this, I suppose?

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

...all the ancient sources are clear, and from all over the Medditerrean World (Latin, Greek, Coptic, and Syriac) ...Mary's only son was Jesus...James, Jesus other brothers and sisters are elderly Joseph's from a previous marriage...in some accounts James is actually decades older than young Mary...

The Mary cult comes later when they need to convert the goddess worshipers. Then we read the Assumption of Mary and an adaptive theology that still exists.

@chrisalfano589

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the Mary Cult started first. She bore Jesus… read SP Laurie.

@ancienthamatendiscipline3533

Жыл бұрын

The concept of God/God's/Goddess didn't exist pre Catholicism. People have a habit of projecting this term back into a history it didn't exist in.

@mjramirez6008

Жыл бұрын

Oh such an specialist on the early church... 😆

@sebolddaniel

Жыл бұрын

@@ancienthamatendiscipline3533 the Catholics have statues of Issis, Inana, Demeter, Athena and Artemis in the Vatican Museum. I really love those convents in South Dakota that pray to women saints.

@ancienthamatendiscipline3533

Жыл бұрын

@@sebolddaniel That's great for the Catholics. Not sure why any of that is relevant to my comment?

I have been thru Catholic instruction & baptism at a college age toward a marriage in the Church to a devout Irish-Italian girl, and much of it my critical thinking must reject. Yet I salute the veneration of Jesus' Mother as a Holy Entity and article of Faith along with their eventual Savior. A morsel. A Foundation.

James Tabor Hey James, I don't know if it matters but the Mary thumbnail you used for the video was of the character Mary Magdalene (Amber Rose Revah) in "The Bible" series. Roma Downey was the actress that played Miriam in that series.

@JamesTaborVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks David...good eye...no, I just wanted a woman who might look vaguely Middle Eastern...rather than white European...

@kendalbrenneman

2 жыл бұрын

It did confuse me, I thought this was going to be about Mary Magdalene. Still interested though!

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesTaborVideos ...more "Pick and Choose"???..."brother" Tabor

One interesting book about the life of Mary is "the Mystical city of God", written by Mary of Agreda. It gives many details, not mentioned in the Bible.

@MarkGrago

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! ☦️☦️☦️

That is so weird.."his mother said"..wow. Why didn't he use her name, very interesting and the cognitive take on "my house is your house:. Its so easy to fall for ideas that may be perceived wrong. This video , dang I love these videos.

Mary is also buried at Ephesus. I have a Vietnamese Mary statue with a round bamboo hat. I picked it up at Saigon Cathedral bookstore.

will the book come out in spanish?

Thank you doctor for sharing your knowledge, I value and appreciate what I have learned from you.

How do we sign up to attend your next lecture?

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .............................................................................

I'd like to know what James Tabor's thoughts on the Gods and Demons fandom wiki is. Also, thoughts on Perennial philosophy. Maybe lastly, simulation theory 🤔

Mary's possible house is now in a church that you can visit right? The house is much lower than the rest of the building. I remember going to a site like that in Nazareth, is that the same location?

As a practicing Catholic, I deeply appreciate the attention and even reverence you have given to Mary. And unfortunately, it's true that most Christians, and even a lot of Catholics, don't really give much credit to her role as the mother of Jesus. The woman who brought Him up and probably the first human who taught Him obedience to God. It's also sad that a lot of Christians misinterpret Catholic's reverence to Mary. For sure, Jesus loves and reveres His mother greatly, not only while He was human but now as Divine. And so who are we, mere humans, not to love and revere His mother. Just as Jesus loved and loves mankind and taught His apostles, and Mary being the very first disciple when He died, Mary also loved and loves mankind that when she asked her Son to make wine, Jesus though initially was hesitant, obeyed His mother. Would He not still be obedient to her in heaven when mankind ask for her intercession? Mary, the perfect example of a loving, yet stern mother (imagine having 8 children, whether hers biologically or stepchildren, at a young age at that), and also the symbol of strength, especially having witnessed the crucifixion and death of her Son, and the perfect example of obedience and submission to God's will. I believe that God created her holy enough to bear His Son.

@jarikrawczyk

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. The Famous Mary; she got "The Mother of the Year" award, when she has lost baby Jesus for several days while traveling.

@LS-ei7xk

Жыл бұрын

Usually the priests in our church say his brothers and sisters means his cousins.. I'd like to know more about how this is accepted or refuted. And yes, I have also heard, it could mean his step- siblings. A priest I knew a long time ago said that whether Mary was a physical or a spiritual virgin, it doesn't matter: she is still a virgin (pure). So I can recite in the Confiteor, "And I ask Mary, ever Virgin, all the angels and saints..." without feeling conflicted. Thoughts? From either you or from Dr. Tabor--or other Catholics?

What about the mention of Mary in apocryphal sources?

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

...good question...Prof Tabor entirely "marginalized" and ignored them...preferring his own "pick and choose" marginalized Mary...and very frustrating for someone who knows these ancient texts..

Interesting. I think many people would like to know more about Jesus's as a young child and as he grew up into a man. It seems obvious that Mary and Joseph would have played a big role in his upbringing but we know little about this.

Thank, just a beautiful testament to Mary's contribution to Jesus' spirituality.

Great presentation. It was interesting to learn about Mary and her geographical home which not many people knew about. There are many Christians that don’t give credit to Mary at all in fact they only describe her as the carrier of Jesus. I wad in a fundamentalist Evangelical church where they barely mentioned Mary in any of their sermons and describe revering her as a sin.

@3wolfsdown702

2 жыл бұрын

Fake

@chiricahuaapache5132

2 жыл бұрын

Fundy Christians are tonguespeaking nutters, usually obssessed with money.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

Revering is ok...but it seems at one time (maybe yet) that Roman Catholics prayed to her. I don't see any reason to do so We pray to Yahweh and Yeshu'a; no one else.

@jvnd2785

10 ай бұрын

The verb "to revere" is a synonym of "to adore" and "to exalt". The LORD told us clearly that He is the only One we should exalt. Not humans. Exalting anybody but the Father is a grievous sin. Remember Jeremiah 7:18: "The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven [Mary is called the "queen of heaven" by the catholics/orthodox]; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger."

@jvnd2785

10 ай бұрын

@@johntiggleman4686, my friend, the verb "to revere" is a synonym of "to adore" and "to exalt". The LORD told us clearly that He is the only One we should exalt. Not humans. Exalting anybody but the Father is a sin. As to Yeshu'a, He never told us to pray to Him. Isaiah 52:13 tells us: "Behold, My servant will prosper, He will be high and lifted up and greatly exalted." Yes, He *will* be greatly exalted, but not yet. We need to keep in mind that this exaltation will happen in the future (the book of Revelation is quite specific about this). Christ did not come to this world to be exalted but to serve the LORD (the Father)- hence the word servant.

amazing!

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 ..............................................................................................

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

"Pick and Choose" history is amazing??

When the gospel according to Tabor?

really great conclusion about Mary, Mary's voice in Jesus

When Mary registered the birth of Jesus , what year did she give the registrar?

p.s should read "and seeing" , my typo error

I wish I could go on that trip!!

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 ............................................................................................

You did good thank you

Beautiful

Judging by what Americans (& presumably many other nationalities whether they were Protestant or Catholic), used to name their daughters, Mary was one of the most popular girls' names from 1880 until 1960, although it was often paired with another name like Mary Ruth, Mary or Mary Ellen. For example, my maternal grandmother was named "Mary Ruth" as was my mother's older sister, & my paternal grandmother was named Mayme (another spelling for Mamie as in Mamie Eisenhower), which is a variant of the name "Mary". Of course, quite often both girls and boys were named after family members. That too has gone by the wayside.

This is very interesting! One thing that I question is, if she was a city girl and perhaps from a wealthy family, why would they have married her off to a poor village person? Can’t wait for the book to come out next year. My mind goes here - her parents found out early on she was pregnant and tried to foist her off on a village guy. When Joseph found out, he felt betrayed, but was going to put her away quietly so that he didn’t look like a fool and/or because he didn’t want to disrespect the wealthy city family?

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

...you don't have to wait for Tabor's new book of pick and choose Marian speculations...the answer from the all the ancient sources is Mary and her Parents were concerned with a marriage based on piety, rather than monetary prosperity ...nor is Joseph described as particularly poor, he owns hereditary property in Bethlehem...the poverty of Jesus is a just another neoMarxist theological myth....like Tabor's "revolutionary" Mary...it says more about the historian's postmoderne' world view than it does Mary's...Jesus's family were Alms Givers ...and never Alms recievers..

@babecarla

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 - Ah, hah, ha, ha - So you have "All the ancient sources" on Mary. Dissenter, please post your own comments - again you tag onto another's comment. Be brave ~!

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

@@babecarla...Do I (think) I have all the ancient sources on "the Virgin"?...well... yeah... I think I just might...at least alot more than "brother" Tabor cited ...I watched this to see if "brother" Tabor had any additional insights or actual historical sources I might be lacking ...and alas he did not ...rather he outright dismissed the best evidence...howver he did fully informed us of some of his postmoderne' feminist fantasies as applied to the Nativity history (...if that sort speculation floats yer boat)...but sure makes for a disappointing and striped down socialist style Xmas...talk about yer "marginalization"... So I'm here to Save 𝕮𝖍𝖎𝖗𝖘𝖙𝖒𝖆𝖘 for everyone...now how brave is that?..might as well start with you...what Marian misconceptions can I help you with?

@babecarla

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 - I encourage every thinking person to search for answers. I do NOT encourage dissent, but challenge in favor of learning. Post your remarks in a courageous way, instead of criticizing others who have done their share of the work of learning.

What about Mary and Martha, the sisters of Lazarus?

This is an enlightening presentation. Thank you for sharing. Your conclusions seem to depend heavily on the accuracy and credibility of the gospels and Acts. You didn't mention where Joseph and Mary actually lived at the time of Jesus' birth, whether Nazareth or Bethlehem. You alluded to the challenge Mary may have faced as a single mother of 8 children. It seems to me that if her eldest child could create all that is, seen and unseen, he ought to be able to help out around the house.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

They lived in Nazareth. The "census" story seems like a religious construct: Caesar Augustus saying all the (Roman) world should be taxed. Therefore, we are told, Yoseph and Marie went to Bethlehem because hes was in David's family tree. Sounds nice, no? But look at it this way. Rome wanted everything to come to a halt for months on end while they struggled with the visitors? Ludicrous. It's most likely that tax agents went to the citizens towns and cities and looked over their possessions, including homes, animals, furnishings, etc; getting the value of those things to properly tax them. You couldn't levy a tax on people with no idea of their worth. There are other stories that have a strong hint at being fabrications.

😔 I'm leaving at minute marker 11:32 11 🕋 32 They said, "O Noah, you have argued with us, and kept on arguing. We challenge you to bring the doom you threaten us with, if you are truthful."

Excellent.

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .........................................................................................................

Taking all the (few) references to Mary in all four Gospels as having historical value and (worse) of equal historical value? Might as well have thrown in the material in the Proto-Gospel of James...

Merry Christmas "brother" Tabor...and why do you assume that Mary is actually the mother James...and further her "care taker"? ... is there a single ancient historical source...anywhere... that ever suggests any such an arrangement???...

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

Do you have historical sources beyond misguided Roman Catholic dogma? There is NO WAY after Yehsu'a was born, and Mary went through with the traditional cleansing, that they never had sex, causing pregnancy. Or do you think he went celibate, or "waxed his weasel?"

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

@@johntiggleman4686 ...probably Pearls💎 before Swine💎🐗❓... ...As far as Yeshua, being Mariam ha'Alma's only child... the relevant earliest extra-biblical texts existing, are entirely consistent traditions (dogmas) are actually from Early Church traditions all over the ancient Mediterranean World...These are Churches not in fellowship with each other, and in detailed dogmatic conflict about the most minute matters of Faith ...but they all are about this.. Coptic; Syriac; Greek; and yes a few Latin, but from 2nd century sources...and certainly not Catholic Dogma that came later... Later Romish Catholic's claim Yosef was also a chaste and lifetime virgin...so the Roman Church has rejected all these texts since about 600 AD ... And I'm objectively none of the above...and from the same strict Texas Biblical tradition as old "brother" Tabor here... Yosef Abbas Yacov, was a very old man, beyond the call of sex desire..all Yeshua's siblings are Yosef's, from a previous marriage ....Yakov, the just one, was actually near Mariam ha' Alma's age or older... It is said, Righteous Yosef Abbas Yacov, died at over 100 yo , when Yeshua was 19... This is more ancient narrative has to be true.. or otherwise the surviving children of Mariam , committed the dreaded sin of "Korban"...are you accusing Yacov, the Just one, and Yeshu's many other brothers and sisters of "Korban" and breaking the 4th Commandment?... Isn't it fun to word play Jewish=...er I mean "Yahudi"... I can also speak in convincing Muslim lingo as well...in fact so well...that sometimes christians assume, I am Islamic..but "play acting" to proselytize, will never actually make me one...get my drift, brother...(1 Cor. 7:18)

Oh and thoughts on the Names of God Bible 🤔 Thanks!

Mary was 18. Elizabeth is Mary's cousin, she was elderly and she and her husband Zechariah could never have children, Now Elizabeth is pregnant as God has worked a miracle so they can conceive. Their child grows up to be John the Baptized. Mary's hair is the right colour and her eyes are blue.

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .........................................................................................

@mjramirez6008

Жыл бұрын

🥱please read the Scripture

@AnnaMaria-po5mk

Жыл бұрын

@@mjramirez6008 I know the scriptures and I also know the Quran. You need to do your research and study before you talk, because talk is cheap and worth nothing at all.

@mjramirez6008

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnnaMaria-po5mkI was talking to walid

Mary offered to the world perfect expression and obedience of and to Yaweh. she was a found perfect for a role and as a role model. ✝️

Mary lived in Ephesus in the later period of her life. Her house is still to be seen there.

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

...of course she did...it's just a matter of if you perfer strong and consistent ancient Tradition ...to Prof. Tabor's postmoderne' pick and choose Marian speculations...

I visited a Mary's House near Ephasus in Turkey. What's all that about?

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .............................................................................................

@louiserussell8267

2 жыл бұрын

@@walid4184 Too complicated. Just follow your Inner Guidance System. Jesus is not complicated. Anything too complicated is false. What's your screed got to do with Mary's House in Ephasus?

@stevenv6463

2 жыл бұрын

Near Ephesus? I mean Paul definitely was there. Perhaps there is a tradition of her going there after Jesus.

@louiserussell8267

2 жыл бұрын

She definitely resided in a house near Ephasus

@stevenv6463

2 жыл бұрын

@@louiserussell8267 What source says she was ever in Ephesus?

Mary or Marie?

did i hear you say you bring people to look at israel?? that would be very cool

I think that Mary Magdalene was the most important Mary.

@somniumisdreaming

Жыл бұрын

How could that work in Christianity? Surely the mother of Jesus would be most important for bringing him into this world? I'm not a believer but do think there was a historical Jesus, if you can expand on your comment that would really be helpful.

Her correct title in Greek was "THEOTOKOS"; NOT "TheotokTos". She wasn't on TikTOK! 😁

@richarddemuth7077

4 ай бұрын

Having been raised a Roman Catholic I am familiar with the doctrine if not the terminology of Mary's fate. She DIED and was "ASSUMED" or "assumpted" into Heaven. She DID NOT "ascend" in a BODILY rising like her Son did in the ☁️ on the Mount of Olives when he literally ROSE UP into the sky while his disciples looked up watching him disappear. Apparently, WITHOUT her soul separating from her body, her corpse was "divinely vaporized" or, as "Trekkies" would say, "BEAMED UP". We are thus not to imagine a dead body floating up through the roof into the sky and on through ✨ space into the SPIRITUAL dimension of "Heaven".

As a Catholic child I could not understand why it was said taht Mary, Joseph and Jesus was poor. Mary was related to a Temple aristocratic family. She attended a prosperous wedding. She traveled to Jerusalem. They were (to me) relatives of Martha and Mary, rich women. To me Mary Magdalen, a rich woman, ws also a relative. Yes, as Catholics we did not read the "Bible" at home, we did read the Gospels, and some of Paul. Plus Peter and James. We heard most of Bible in church piece by piece over the years. But the Gospels, Peter and James were always the focus. Mary was at Pentecost as was Mary Magdalene, so why wasn't she an Apostle, since she was ordained with the fire of the Holy Spirit? And, perhaps inffudenced by Annunciation paintings, she could read and read Scripture in Hebrew. The big point here: she was a not poor, Jesus was not poor.

@sorenaleksander2670

2 жыл бұрын

I was raised catholic, as well. Your contention about the financial status of the Holy Family was NEVER taught. The teachings to catholic kids have little to do with the bible. I was taught about guardian angels and saints, and told my "sins" drove more nails into jesus. The catholic church is utterly ludicrous, and every nun I ever met should be kicked in the head ad nauseum!

@alexdiaz155

2 жыл бұрын

Our most Holy Lady, out of piety and love of God, willingly endured poverty, as proven by the sacrifice of doves and not a larger animal when she presented the Lord in the temple. This is in keeping with the law of Moses that sin offerings could be two doves if the family couldn’t afford the larger sacrifice (which I’m unfortunately forgetting). This is why she is the model of monasticism for women, because she willingly sacrificed so much. O Theotokos, save us.

@ritawing1064

2 жыл бұрын

@@sorenaleksander2670 so was I: now gradually realising - and resenting - all the drivel with which our heads were stuffed.

@chiricahuaapache5132

2 жыл бұрын

Were they upper middle class? By the standards of today, would she be the daughter of a tv exec, living in Flushing in a million dollar home? In Nazrat I think not.

@kbeetles

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, as far as I know Nazareth was a tiny place, an outpost, a village viewed with some suspicion....Joseph was a carpenter - I wonder how rich that made him.... the dove sacrifice suggests people with meagre resources. I suppose Jesus would have more stories about his childhood and before he started on his mission, if he had been the son of a well-to-do family. Fleeing with a young child overnight to Egypt also indicates poverty more than riches. But the idea of something novel and controversial is always more juicy...

Mary , mother of Jesus, has a whole Chapter in her name in the Islamic Qur'an. In the book of Matthew she is mentioned only 5 times and only once in the book of Mark and twice in the book of John and 12 times in the book of Luke.

@stevenv6463

2 жыл бұрын

It is also interesting that the professor thinks she has royal lineage as the Quran imagines Mary as having access to the temple.

Glad Dr. Tabor mentions French. Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc, Juana de Arco, etc.) is arguably both the greatest known and the least known woman of all time, and probably the least understood. Very view people realize that before THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST (2004), there was THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC (1928). Today (end of April) may be the day which the French annually renact Joan's (Jeanne's) TRIUMPHAL ENTRY through the EAST GATE (Burgundy Gate) into the besieged City of Orleans, where Joan brought salvation to the starving citizens through supplies of food and military deliverance from the English. Salvation proceeds along a straight line path from EAST to WEST (GATE, DOOR, VEIL). The Golden Gate into the City of Jerusalem, Israel, is sealed shut. The Burgundy Gate into Orleans, France, is today, no longer existent. The Burgundy Gate is temporarily reconstructed annually for the Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc) festival at the end of every April. "Joan of Arc is the GLORY of France and the Universal Church, and France is the Tribe of Judah of the New Covenant." -- Pope Saint Pius X. Then there is the issue of who Joan's mother Isabelle Romee was? Is she like the Virgin Mary, mother of the Son of God? Joan of Arc is called the Daughter of God, by both the archangel Michael, and Joan of Arc's Judges: "Do you consider yourself to be the Daughter of God in the same 'Way'/way that Jesus Christ is considered the Son of God?" Joan: "Oui". [ "Does this question come from you? Or, have others told you about me?" -- Jesus Christ to Pilate. ] "Jehanne la Pucelle. Enfant/Fille de Dieu." -- St. Michael. "A crown of 12 stars is upon her head." (Revelation 12:1-2). "Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?" (Song of Songs 6:10 KJV).

@joni3503

2 жыл бұрын

She will help France when the war starts on her soil, and when the Crown Prince will arrive with his armies, sent by God.

Mary would be represented by the High Priestess in the Tarot deck. Both have the moon under their foot. The stars surrounding her head is brought forth from the goddess Innana. A very old deity. It is only in a Patriartrical society that Mary is not given her due.

Why can't Mary have lived in Nazareth as well? Luke says she did.

No one's body goes to heave as we are spirit living an a body and at death, our spirit leaves our body behind because that is not the essence of who we are.

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's the essence of it....spirit. I've always believed that, like you say, at death our spirits leave the body behind and reunite with God. For many years now, I've been speaking with people and reading accounts of what is called Near Death Experiences. It is a controversial subject and not all NDE stories seem credible to me at least but there are some that are credible and that is what they say: the spirit leaves the dead body and then is alive in the Spirit World. In short, there is no death.

Veneration of Mother seems beyond question. In this question, it refers to Jesus Mother, regardless of the myth of insemination, it need not be Divine. And, the named Mary of Magdalina, it would make sense that a man of Jesus age, in his time & culture, would take a wife & father children as he had time & ability. Mother of...God? Jesus? All Divine association & involvement, which must be taken only on Faith & belief. Children, decendants of Jesus need not be taken on Faith, but on historic fact and actual existence. This is what makes sense and does not require superstition.

St Peter and St Paul marginalised the role of women in the foundations of Christianity a parallel thing happened in Judaism too. It was the Roman Empires influence.

@joni3503

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite. The reason is Mary's humility. She didn't want the disciples to write very much about her. However, she was the most important teacher of the Church, after the Crucifixion. The apostle's and disciples obeyed and venerated her as the mother of their Lord. St. John called her "My Lady" as if speaking to a Queen. And st. James built the very first Catholic chapel in Saragoza, Spain, in her honor, while she was still alive on this earth. He called the chapel "Mary of the Pillar". It is still there in Spain. So much for modern criticism, that the church is "patriarchal"

@andrewferran8942

Жыл бұрын

Your 100% correct

I have a problem with that prayer because it is in defiance of Yeshua's directive to pray, "to Father and Father alone". Just to be clear he included DO NOT PRAY TO HIM either (Yeshua).

Divine Mother Holy Spirit , Jeshua 's twin Soul❤

Where in the bible does Jesus say, pray to my mother and she'll pass on the message ?

Amen ! Yes.

respect James greatly but found this disappointing. dont think he got us any nearer to the historical Mary, found the archaeology interesting

Cleophas/Clopas isn't Mary's husband because Jesus had to tell one of the disciples to take care of her.

John 2:12 shoots a huge hole in the Roman Catholic belief of Mary being a "perpetual virgin." The most well known brother is James. Also, Mark 6:3 (and other references) say Yeshu'a and Yoseph were carpenters; many scholars say they were mostly "day workers," working for Rome; possibly at Sepphoris. This comes from the book "Zealot" by Reza Aslan. And the verse "is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary.." seems odd. In Yeshu'as day, it would be Yeshu'a bar Yoseph, not Yeshua bar (bat?) Maria. I suppose that verse is what leads some scholars to think Yoseph had died when Yeshu'a was a lad.

@LS-ei7xk

Жыл бұрын

The Roman Catholic explanation for this is that either they were cousins or step-siblings from Joseph, who was married before (as he was older). I would like to know more about this. See my comment above. And it would be Yeshua bar Miryam... only "bat" if he were a female.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

@@LS-ei7xk Oops on the "bat." Fat finger syndrome. I've heard that tired excuse of cousins/step sons before.

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

@@johntiggleman4686 Churches of all kinds are not above twisting the Scriptures to fit their dogma. A Baptist minister once told me that at the wedding in Cana of Galilee, Jesus turned water into "unfermented wine." Baptists, as you may know, have a doctrine against consuming alcoholic beverages.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

@@grantsmythe8625 I heard the same baloney from the Reformed Church. Once I was in my late teens, I called bullshit on it.

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

@@johntiggleman4686 Yes, when I told the Baptist minister that "unfermented wine" was simply grape juice he had a puzzled look on his face. What can you say?

God chose the right person at the right time to have the responsibility of the task in the time that was given to her, this also applies to Joseph her husband.Having lost a husband and the seeing your son crucified , one could say her heart was torn out of her.

Jesus has the heart of Mary!

Both Mary and John the Baptiser were the mentors of Jesus christ PBUH. Mary is the most glorified woman ever existed on Earth.

mary,s name was, miriam. nothing is known about th first 30 years. but what is sure she lived in the galiee as ..mary..or miriam of migdal. a place above lake ģalilee. as i live in israel ì know all the geography, ķfar nahum,migdal but i personally am a jewish mother too. but the customs mentioned are still practised

In greece they thnk that mary become goddess with jesus in heavens and today the greeks think that mary is protector of the muslims of the country i wonder did jesus abandoned in ephesus or he take with him and what happen with his father josef!

She was blonde with blue eyes.

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 ...........................................................................

Very interesting. Never thought of that she'd be taken out or kinda swept under the rug. You said at the end of the video Jesus's upbringing. Mary being apart of that. "Turn the other cheek" i wonder if that was from when Jesus was picked on as a kid? And Jesus would basically kill them. (I dont know if all that's true. Im still learning and thought i knew alot but after watching you. I dont know sh*t🤣🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️❤️)

I've always thought she was Jesus mother

theotoktos on poster should be THEOTOKOS (god bearer).

@LS-ei7xk

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I noticed that too, but didn't know if I ought to point it out. Thanks for doing so for me! : )

Thank Jesus he left us his authoritative Catholic Church, to save us from 21st century historians and scholars.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

He did not. His message was to the Jews. He had little or nothing to do with gentiles (pearls before swine). And even if he did, it was very grudgingly. James was the head of the Jerusalem (Jewish) church, along with Peter and John (the disciple that Yeshu'a loved). Don't forget, Yeshu'a was a Jew, not a Christian; that came about from Paul's errant preaching.

In the wedding gospel, they run out of wine. Mary tells Jesus, they are out of wine. Jesus says it's not his time yet. Who set the time? There obviously was a scheduled time.

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

It was not His time to disclose His miraculous abilities... So how did Mary know Jesus could perform them?... All the Infancy Gospels, which Tabor apparentlu dismisses and ignores, describe repeatedly that when the boy Jesus did something miraculous...it would cause a community uproar and uncomfortable problems for his Family...so he was instructed not to do any more Signs in public...i.e. "His time to do them had not come"...

@marybaumer9812

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 ok but who set the time? If God set the time, then Mary did something most wouldn't do, directly disobey God.

@anarchorepublican5954

Жыл бұрын

@@marybaumer9812 ...according to the texts Jesus is Godlike ...from birth ...and He has godlike powers...that is their point..He performs them publically and it causes problems...however He did use them privately, on occasionally help his family...this explains how Mary knew Jesus could help at the wedding...In effect God was obedient to his mother's naggy request...and every pious Son can relate to that..

@7Truth7Wins7

Жыл бұрын

"..he who is of the EARTH is EARTHLY and speaks of the EARTH.." (John 3:31) When Jesus says it is not "His time" yet, He is NOT talking about turning water in to wine. He is referring to His Death and Ascension into Heaven which would PRECLUDE the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on believer's. "Wine" is symbolic of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. Jesus was saying, when you fill your vessel (yourself) to the brim with "water", which is symbolic for God's Word, the Holy Spirit follows and transforms you into a "new" creation. Although the marriage and the wine miracle in Canaan was LITERAL., the Word of God has both a natural and spiritual application. The "carnal" man can ONLY understand the "natural" application. "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED." (1st Corinthians 2:14)

@7Truth7Wins7

Жыл бұрын

@@anarchorepublican5954 "..he who is of the EARTH is EARTHLY and speaks of the EARTH.." (John 3:31) When Jesus says it is not "His time" yet, He is NOT talking about turning water in to wine. He is referring to His Death and Ascension into Heaven which would PRECLUDE the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on believer's. "Wine" is symbolic of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. Jesus was saying, when you fill your vessel (yourself) to the brim with "water", which is symbolic for God's Word, the Holy Spirit follows and transforms you into a "new" creation. Although the marriage and the wine miracle in Canaan was LITERAL., the Word of God has both a natural and spiritual application. The "carnal" man can ONLY understand the "natural" application. "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED." (1st Corinthians 2:14)

Aisha is also a leading lady in the preaching teaching sector still she was a child not a real woman, a toddler some say. Sahih liars. Yeah.

We barely know anything about Mary from the scriptures.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

Barley is a grain. Check your spelling, please.

@sksman71

Жыл бұрын

@@johntiggleman4686 lol your correct

Mary is said to have been the daughter of the priest, Joachim. Joseph is said to have been an elderly widower, a tekton (laborer) of not much account. Now the question you need to ask yourself is: why is a prime young maiden of high social standing betrothed to an old geezer of much lower social standing? I draw your attention to MARK 6.03......."Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him." Now if you have noticed in your bible, it was the norm to refer to men as: "the son of XXXX". To do as these people did, indicates that his hometown neighbors knew, or at least believed, that he was not the son of Joseph. It seems likely to me that Mary was found to have "a bun in the oven" and for some reason, the father was not available for marriage, a difficult situation. Obviously none of the young men of the village are going to marry her, and without a husband she is open to being stoned to death as per Mosaic Law. But there is old Joseph who is open to the prospect of getting a fresh young wife, albeit a little used......a prospect he could never otherwise expected to have. A prime young maiden wedding a poor old widower is not something that would have been forgotten. Some claim that the divine birth story came from Mary. Maybe so, maybe so. You know something.........sometimes people tell a lie for so long, they come to believe it themselves.

Mary had to be "assumed" into heaven because, being born without original sin.(the "Immaculate Conception"), she was not suject to death (this is the corner into which the Roman Catholic church painted itself). One has to ask: was childbirth painful for her, according to that same institution? Bit of a problem there, if you think about it.

@joni3503

2 жыл бұрын

No, it was not painful for her. Jesus was born in a miraculous way, and didn't harm her virginity. Mary did undergo death, but she chose it voluntarily, because she wanted to follow her Son. She layed down on a couch and her heart stopped, out of pure Love for God. It happened 13th of August, and all the disciples were there, because she was the most important Teacher of the Church, venerated by all the Apostle's, as their queen. Then she was buried, and she was resurrected from the dead on Sunday 15th August. She went up to Heaven, body and soul united, as a human of flesh and blood. She is in Heaven, united to her flesh, just like her divine Son. How that works, we can not understand. Many details of her life, described in "the mystical city of God", by Mary of Agreda.

@ritawing1064

2 жыл бұрын

@@joni3503 yes, that's the folklore: I meant to draw attention to the conflict of reason and ideology in the whole businesd.

@joni3503

2 жыл бұрын

@@ritawing1064 it's reasonable to believe, but we can't understand everything, in this life.

@ritawing1064

2 жыл бұрын

@@joni3503 no indeed, but there's no excuse for not trying.

@joni3503

2 жыл бұрын

@@ritawing1064 it's a bit more than folklore. This is how Mary of Agreda, the nun, describes it in the 17th century, in Spain. According to her, it was Mary who has told her this. And her book was approved by the Church, and advocated by at least six pope's.

Paul and Peter were ( Paul particularly) was a notorious misogynist and woman hater, and it really comes as no suprise, when you think of the cultural patriarchal bias that has been a constant of north African countries through to the old ottoman empire regions. The only exceptions being ancient Egypt and some Muslim traditions. I find it particularly interesting that from medieval times through to today Mary's iconography is classically that of ancient portrayals of the Egyptian Isis.

I can't believe that Catholics think Mary is the Mother of God and a 4th Person of the Holy Trinity (Quadrinity?). I wish they would stop marginalizing her already.

@mjramirez6008

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe you believe Catholics believe in a Quadrinity(??)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If God has a mother, who s his father????

@LS-ei7xk

Жыл бұрын

The Holy Spirit (according to tradition and belief). Also, in scripture: the Infancy Narrative.

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

Don't ask such questions.....unless you're prepared to get some rather strange answers.

Holy forgotten :)

The Earth belongs to Mother Mary. The Heaven and the Earth belongs to God.

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 ..............................................................................

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

The earth is the Lord's, and all the fullness thereof. NOT Mary.

@AnnaMaria-po5mk

Жыл бұрын

It depends on what religion you are.

@johntiggleman4686

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnaMaria-po5mk I'm certainly not Roman Catholic. I'm more logical, and don't buy into the hokum given out by that religion.

@AnnaMaria-po5mk

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@@johntiggleman4686 People can believe in what they want. Depending on what your opinion is? According to catholic tradition, as christ is king of the world, Mary is the Queen of the earth because of her divine redemption serving as the Mother of the saviour. The Garden of Eden was not in heaven it was on earth. Eve was the mother of Mankind on earth not in heaven. Mary is the New Eve. Because of Eve's disobedience to God and Adams's cooperation with her, they lost sanctification grace for themselves and their offspring. Like Eve, was created full of grace. But unlike Eve, Mary remained obedient to God. In cooperation of the Redeemer and in cooperation with christ, she not only because the Mother of the Redeemer she also became Mother of mankind on earth. Scripture tells us that christ is the New Adam, and we all died in Adam, all being made alive in christ. Without Mary this would have not been possible. God's ways are not are ways. The Catholics hourner Mary because she is the mother of the saviour Jesus christ, but all praise and glory go's to God and worship is only to Him. When Jesus comes again he is going to make a new heaven and Earth. Paradise is going to be on earth not in heaven the heaven belongs to God the creator of all things. Mother nature is on Earth.

Ironic title considering her “real” name was Miryam (likely named after Moshe’s sister). Why are original names important? Because they have language meaning built in, while English transliterations lose this. It doesn’t mean they’re not the person intended, only dilutes the purpose of Biblical names. No one is to be worshipped or “revered” as a “saint” or similar. Doing so violates YHVH’s commandments. The Roman church has been venerating (another word for worshiping) saints for over a thousand years, another clear sign it is man-made religion, NOT the Faith, The Way of YHVH. Come out of her My people. Leave the false papal Roman cult.

@anarchorepublican5954

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not really ...because even in the New Testament Hebraic names are consistently given their Greek transliteration equalvants....i.e. Yeshua is "Jesus" or rather "IESOUS"...Old Testament "Joshua" is even described by the Greek "IESOUS" (Acts 7:45 & Hebrews 4:8), and consistency translated "Jesus" in the KJV...which can be confusing to some readers...

@scottintexas

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@@anarchorepublican5954 Only by the Greeks. Much research and discovery is taking place now leading to the conclusion that, in fact, most, if not all of the “new testament” was originally written in Hebrew. Hebrew is God’s language while Greek (Latin, English) are man’s pagan language. It works but it loses something in translation. Don’t expect your local seminarian to go along; they’ve been regurgitating non-sense for centuries.

@johntiggleman4686

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The translations are so messed up...If one could go back in time to Yeshu'as ministry ,and called out to "Jesus," you would probably get no reaction. Jesus is an English variant of the Greek translation of Yeshu'a into Iesus, as they had (or have) no letter J. Nevertheless, Jesus is incorrect. A smaller name mistranslation is in the fabricated crucifixion narrative: the name we hear is Barabbas, but correctly it would be bar Abbas (bar=son of), or son of Abbas (father). And to be persnickity, then let's stop saying Jesus Christ; Correctly, it should be Jesus The Christ, or Jesus, Christ. Written as Jesus Christ, it sounds as if Christ is his last name. I totally agree with your take on "revering" and/or worshipping Mary and the Saints. Also, all statues of Mary or saints need to be removed, as they are idols ("graven images"). I used to get in arguments with a Roman Catholic guy at work years ago about this very thing. Don't get me started on so-called "visions" of Mary at Medugorija (or however that's spelled). Too many things in Roman Catholicism are unblblical.

@scottintexas

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@@johntiggleman4686 Martin Luther was a good start. Most Christian denominations remain indoctrinated by Roman-based theology. You’d think evangelical seminaries would have been the first to correct this, but they also regurgitate what they’ve been taught by previous “great teachers” who didn’t “come out of her.” Christianity is full of syncretism, forbidden by YHVH. The translators could have used Joshua but they wanted to distinguish Him. Modern translations have no excuse. People are now used to referring to people by their name in their own language (Roberto, Mikhail, etc.).

"Ave Maria,cheia de graça, o Senhor é convosco, rogai por Nós pecadoresno Céu e na Terra...agora e na hora da nossa morte...Amém!"...When we go to the friday confession,the "penalty" to our sins (..."I didn't obey my Fathers...","...i've said bad words..."...) was allways 10/12 "Ave Maris's" and...1/2 "Padre nossos" ( the "Lords preyer"...)... them we "mumble" a few minutes,and...go running to our...football (...ah!:soccer!) game in front of the church!: that's the beauty of growing up catholic!...nobody takes it as a..."religion", moral rules, or, mutch less!,something related to a God that have the power of life and death, even or hell, to judge our acts!...POOR PROTESTANT KIDS!

KZread is the evolution of... book

I kind of came to the conclusion that Joseph and Mary were affluent as well. Not based on deep research like you but rather,, there's a scripture in the New testament where Jesus is dining with taxpayers and basically the lowlifes of the town. The ruling class at the time was very concerned about him eating with, which makes me think they had people watching him constantly. I couldn't help but think that if he was a run of the mill, take a number get in line religious figure, why would they care who he ate with or any of the details of his life for that matter? I think that because he was of the Davidic line and he was wealthy, they watched him carefully. He not only was one of them, but he could literally qualify for messiah. Must have made them pretty nervous.

@alexdiaz155

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When Mary gives birth to Christ, she follows the law of Moses and presents a sin offering because she gave birth (ritual uncleanliness isn’t the same as sin, since giving birth is clearly not a sin). Normally the sacrifice is lamb, but Mary and Joseph sacrificed doves, which is a provision made for the poor. All the early Church knew she was poor, the protoevangelium says she was poor, and her example encourages us to be poor in this life and rich in the next.

@kendalbrenneman

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@@alexdiaz155 but the whole birth narrative is fictional and we know that, so that’s probably the last story we want to rely on for any facts.

@ritawing1064

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@@alexdiaz155 giving birth is not a sin but the list of things which could make women unclean is bad enough. Catholic women used to be "churched" after giving birth, too. If you want an idea if the intrusive and controlling rules around female reproductive functions, look up the Orthodox Jewish rules for "Niddah".

@3wolfsdown702

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Fake stories

You bring up some very good point about Mary. I think it is Mary's genealogy in Matthew because Jesus was born King of the Jews. So Mary's father had to have died right before Jesus was born and Joseph would have been in place as the kinsman redeemer. So Jacob was the biological father of Mary. Joseph couldn't have been in line for the throne ahead of Jesus since Jesus was born King. This all makes sense considering John the Baptist was born 6 months before Jesus and all the Jews knew God was on the move with John's miraculous birth. So Mary was the princess of Israel and everyone knew it. This is why the priests knew of Jesus' out of wedlock birth. They were all making fun of Mary for messing up the plans by getting pregnant before the wedding. This also means Mary actually owned the house in Bethlehem, Jesse's house which David was born in. Yah, No room for Jesus even before He was born, even in the house Mary owned.

@chrisalfano589

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Huh…. Then Mathew got it wrong. It’s Joseph’s genealogy in Mathew. From David. I agree, it’s Mary’s. But for a different reason. Mary bore Jesus, spiritually. Everything that Paul says is of a spiritual Jesus. It’s not physical. Mary was of a sect in Judaism that prophesied that’s Messiah would come. Remember, when they dug under St.Peter’s, they found the skeleton of a 70 yr old woman. Reply for material

@solonkazos1379

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@@chrisalfano589 Matthew and Luke both have it right. Joseph is a kinsman redeemer. Mary can not be the King of Israel, women could not attain the roll. Matthews genealogy is concerned with the throne of Israel and the proper handling of it from generation to generation. This is why 5 women appear in the account of Matthew. So the throne would have passed to Mary, but she needs a son to receive it. It could have been she had no brothers or they all died. However being the only child left she would need a kinsmen redeemer to continue the family line and inherit the throne to her son. Joseph can not be the king in waiting , if he was than Jesus couldn't be born the King of the Jews. So Joseph had to have agreed ahead of time to marriage that his role was to supply an heir to the throne for Mary was in deed the agreement. To see how this works read the Book of Ruth. In it Boaz becomes the kinsman redeemer for Naomi who is too old to bare children. So her daughter in law " Ruth " became the child bearer for Naomi. Thus Naomi's family name is preserved in Israel and the child inherits Naomi's dead husbands lands. Boaz doesn't get Naomi's lands, the child Ruth bears gets it. So the kinsman redeemer law is a sacrifice for the man doing it. Since he is the closest relative the land would fall to him, but he passes that up to provide for the widow to continue the land in her family's name. It is really a very beautiful thing to see, a true act of love. Of course Boaz does get to marry Ruth for real. It looks like he was very excited about that process. So Matthew's genealogy is for Mary and Luke's is for Joseph. Both lines are from King David. Jesus was born King of the Jews.

@chrisalfano589

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@@solonkazos1379 if you believe the genealogy then you have a point. Both are not identical, and Luke is absurd going back to Adam. Joseph doesn’t count, he is not the father of Jesus. He probably counts as the father of Mary. It’s a moot point, as I agree with Paul that Jesus was a spiritual being. Not of THIS earth, but of the other higher one. My opinion .

@solonkazos1379

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@@chrisalfano589 We don't get to spiritualize Jesus. Prophecies say he is a man, yet also much more. I don't want to get into the weeds about the Trinity, but there is a flesh side to Jesus. This man part is what holds the throne of Israel. This is why the genealogies are so important. If Jesus isn't from the line of David than the prophets have it all wrong or we need to look somewhere else for the Messiah. Matthew and Luke have it correct. The only debate back then was the virgin birth, the Jews saw this as a bastard child. It was for this exact reason all the other signs were given at Jesus' birth. Why not be willing to trust Mary and Joseph's story of the virgin birth. John the Baptist had just been born miraculously, Anna and Simeon had just gave their accounts Jesus was the Messiah. Herod killed all the babies, the great statesmen from the east showed up to trouble all of Jerusalem. We need to look at Mary with the position she held before Jesus. She was the princess of Israel. Her child would be king, and everyone knew it. Herod knew he wasn't of the family of David, and therefore would never be accepted as king. Isaiah was telling us the truth when he said a virgin would give us a Son. This is a very fleshly experience, not a spiritual one. He said this would be a sign, the virgin birth. If we can't trust the signs than we have nothing. To be consistent , people are going to miss the coming of Jesus again because of blindness to the signs. I could go into depth here about what could be missed, but will hold that unless your interested in them. For now, it is completely wonderful how God fit the birth of Jesus into such a tight package of fleshly prophesies and spiritual bonds.

Maybbe luke change the words not to plagerize mathews orbthe others

I didn't know god had a mother😳

God the Father God the Mother, Christ the child. make the two one. 2+1=3 Where we not made Male and Female from the beginning?

Hold up, "ever-virgin"? But, Jesus had brothers... ?

Tell me James ,Joseph being a righteous Man. You think that if he would have Touched her before she gave birth, Jesus Would have been a little girl ? Taking into Account what her Grandmother's we're like!

Dr. You are very difficult to listen to. Please cut to the chase. I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

@johnmichaelson9173

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He's simply giving a lecture on Early Christianity. There isn't a point as such other than here's what we know, here's what we think about what we don't know. And then Dr Tabor gives his thoughts in regards to both. Personal belief & faith aren't any part of these scholarly lectures on Early Christianity.

Agrippina minor

No the real Jesus father was there at the crucifixion he made sure that no bone was broken this would of been his 30th year of service in the Roman legions he would have been 47 years old sad sad times .After the resurrection he granted pardon and the holy ghost and gave him life to 62 a grand old age for a soldier.

12 tribes. Only 2 of the tribes are jewish, which are Judah and Benjamin. Levi are the Levitical priests. The rest are hebrew Israelites, NON jewish.

@walid4184

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The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .....................................................................................

@johntiggleman4686

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Oy gevalt! Such a shanda. So the other tribes are shikkers?

My question is if Your God Is Jewish, Why wouldn't you not be?. He said he was King of the Jews & They are his people.. Why are you not? . Seriously..

@walid4184

2 жыл бұрын

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 .........................................................................................

@mistaman4638

2 жыл бұрын

@@walid4184 is that how you deal with the fact you going to hell

@mistaman4638

2 жыл бұрын

@@walid4184 no one ever said anything about the most important thing.. Its was " I am king of the jews an all others will burn in hell forever" .. and remember to hate your parents. Luke 14:15 .. that's exactly what it says.. You Must Hate .. Not that's not what he meant.. you just have a American version of religion... You would have a eye opener experience if you go over to the Holy Land .. Lived in Jerusalem for 7yrs .. That's when I learned the truth.. only thing Christian's did was Brutality murder everyone that didn't believe in magic.. Besides The bible is Not History, There is No Evidence of Any Jesus .. That's why it's called faith, or magic, Voodoo, cult .. all the same thing