We do not bear culpability for the past over which we had no control or in which we never existed. However, I agree completely that we are culpable now if we do not engage the issue with a historically informed conscience, which I believe means supporting Israel in this conflict. There is no moral equivalence between Hamas'/Palestine's attacks and Israel's response.

@mohamedali2858

5 күн бұрын

J€wish supremacism

Truth over Lies... Know your truths, know where u stand! Long live Israel.

@eviltrickyspider5266

13 күн бұрын

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Camp David with Clinton-2000, Yassa Arafat (PLO) stated that there will never be peace with Israel while a Jew lives. If people really want to carry on about Palestine , the jews /Judea was renamed Palestini by the Romans so that means that the Jews have the right to the name of Palestinian. Not the Muslims.

@stnbch3025

6 күн бұрын

Lie

Continued prayers for Jewish people across the world the IDF the hostages and their families we stand with Israel bring them home🙏🤝

@Roypb01

15 күн бұрын

Two million, five hundred thousand Palestinians murdered in the most brutal fashions imaginable since 1948 and the commencement of The Nakba... as the brutal thugs whine piously, incessantly, about the putative, evanescent holocaust...

Netanyahu literally said he wants an Israel "from the river to the sea". He rejects a two state solution.

I think due to the involvement of the British Empire in the middle east during and after the first world war, it makes sense to call the nation of Israel a colonialist/imperial project, if only in the way that its a logical conclusion. Moreover, I think its also good if we can critisize Israel when there is clear evidence of mistakes by soldiers or actual warcrimes. It doesn't mean that the Jewish people are not the indiginous people with a right to the land the've lived in since the davidic kingdom of 1000 BCE, but it does mean that we should always use common sense and be able to critisize everyone if the're in the wrong.

By 1939, the beggining of the Holocaust, the Jeiwsh Yeshiv in British mandatory palestine ahd most of the establishments that fit a state. The Brits would have left anyway. It was up to the Jews to create their state and not related to the holocoast or the mercy of the nations.

Well said, any chance they will play this on CNN... share and like this video guys.

I'm struggling to understand what the proposed "2 state solution" that the Palestinians rejected in 1948 was meant to resolve from their perspective??

@colinmeehan791

15 күн бұрын

They want Israel gone for ever.Same as now,nothing has changed.

@Stumashedpotatoes

15 күн бұрын

Oh u know, nothing too big, just their national sovereignty and personal freedom. Not really relevant though since those things arent the main focus of their complaints these days

@WickyMA

15 күн бұрын

How about erecting a governing body for them once the British mandate was gone? Would it be better with lawlessness, as it arguably is today?

@carlitaticconi6655

15 күн бұрын

@@Stumashedpotatoes Give up your home and land and gain sovereignty? Life would have to be truly oppressive for me to embrace that deal myself.

@Stumashedpotatoes

15 күн бұрын

@@carlitaticconi6655 nope nobody asked them to give up their homes or their land! Whoops you made a boo boo

Thank you

Some people are repeating common bias here. Here are the facts. Israel is metioned even in Egyptian hieroglyphs. Israel was estabilished and destroyed twice BC. Half of the Israeli Jews came from Arab and Muslim countries expeled by pogroms throughout 1930s and 1940s. Arab invaders first came to Jerusalem in 7th century. Jerusalem was estabilished by Jews 3000 years ago. There were always Jewish community in Jerusalem and surrounding areas throughout history. Arabs rejected all proposals before and after the estabilishment of Israel. All the Middle East doesnt belong to Arabs. Historically, Jewish people had the right for an independent Jewish state. There are 20 Arab countries in the world. Arabs dont care about free Palestinian State, their main goal is destruction of the State of Israel. The facts are right in front of your eyes for those who want to see.

@JBrix86

10 күн бұрын

Peleset is mentioned in Egyptian hieroglyphs too. Peleset is a place though, Isra'El is a people. Judaism did not exist before the Hellenistic Period

Hold it right there, Sparky. I was born in 1956, so I don't bear any culpability for whatever happened in Germany. I was not "slow to recognize what was happening." Nor am I responsible for what is happening currently. I would recommend you reorder your thinking about the way you parse what you say.

Thank you for spreading the truth! love from Israel

Some food for thought: "The Myth of Rescue: Why the Democracies Could Not Have Saved More Jews from the Nazis" (Book by William Rubinstein)

What was the attitude of the Zionists in Israel to the European Jews who survived the Holocaust and then moved to Israel after WW2? Did they welcome them with open arms or treat them with disdain?

@Glenrok

8 күн бұрын

They welcomed them with open arms. In fact, because the British restrictions on Jewish immigration implemented after the 1936 Arab revolt that was maintained even after the war despite US pressure, many wealthy Jews sponsored the (technically illegal) immigration of Jewish refugees exceeding that limit that were then housed in properties legally bought by those and other sponsors.

Israel has been fortunate that the Arabs rejected all the suicidal deals that they were willing to accept. None of those left Israel with defensible borders.

We should stop saying right and left, these terms have been turned upside down

There was 2 state solution. Jordan and Israel.

Great to hear Albert Mohler speaking sense for once. When I hear things like this kzread.infoJue7nYC7y5o, it's easy for me to come to a different conclusion about him

The state of Israel exists for no reason other than to act as an access point and an intelligence source for the West in that region, and perpetuated Holocaust guilt is used as the excuse for why it must continue to exist. You can argue that such a thing is a force for good or you can argue that such a thing is unjust. Personally, I think both sides have behaved atrociously at times. If someone held a gun to my head and forced me to pick a side, I suppose I'd pick Israel for the simple fact that I'd rather live there. But, since no one is holding a gun to my head, I'm on Team Bacon!

@melissacoupal585

15 күн бұрын

Lol -- team Bacon? 😂😂 I love it. Israel itself has been there for thousands of years though, and it is the original birth place of the Jewish people -- their ethnicity is considered to be Israeli. I guess Israel is different than the State of Israel though. It's very confusing, but I have little faith in our current governments intentions as well. I do know that Jewish people are the actual minority in that region and the people in Gaza, (I don't really mind calling them Palestinians) have caused uprisings and unrest in every other country that has taken large portions of them into their own countries. I don't believe there are actual, "right" sides to be taken in war, but I'd have to agree that in this case that I'd pick Israel if I were forced to choose a side.

@John-bravooo

15 күн бұрын

I dont think israel has behaved more atrocious then any other country in the scale of time. When was there holocaust guilt? I hear this a lot but i am not seeing it.

@stnbch3025

6 күн бұрын

​@@melissacoupal585 Before 1948 Jews had a Palestinian passport.

There is no such thing as palestine!

@stephenw2992

15 күн бұрын

The British drew the maps so it was what they said it was. The Arabs were there and promised the land. There was no Jewish homeland there.

@colinmeehan791

15 күн бұрын

@@stephenw2992 Israel has ALWAYS existed.

@UNCHART3DGAMING

15 күн бұрын

Israelites have been there for more than 3000 years - to quote Golda Meir there were Jews and Arabs who then referred to themselves as “Palestinians” to lay claim to the piece of desert with NO OIL that the Israelis have made abundant and prosperous while terriers siphoned off the futures of all Gazans(Palestinians/arabs)

@daniellebcooper7160

15 күн бұрын

@@stephenw2992 The oldest known writings on the subject say that it was called judea, the land of the isralites

@dovidell

14 күн бұрын

@@stephenw2992 Jerusalem was the city of ( King) David , a Jew, 1600 years BEFORE the prophet Mohammed was born, even when the Jews were exiled to the diaspora , there remained Jewish communities who kept their religious lineage constant

I don't always agree with John Anderson's views, but I have always respected his position's because they were well articulated and understandable from his perspective. I am completely appalled by his lack of understanding on this issue. John Anderson, take the time and read the report submitted to the ICJ by South Africa, or the numerous reports in the ICC.

You are not telling the truth about real history.

@M77982

15 күн бұрын

Karen 😂

@patbowlby2497

15 күн бұрын

If you don't know history it is bound to repeat itself. Karen stop watching CNN, and learn some history.

@JBrix86

10 күн бұрын

@@patbowlby2497 Real history is Israel never existed outside of the bible before 1948, and Judaism was created after the Hellenistic period.

@patbowlby2497

10 күн бұрын

​@@JBrix86oh my, J you're a bit lacking in historical facts as well. Judaism has existed since at least the bronze age and Israel since the 12 tribes were separated. So I'm not sure what your real history is or where it comes from but we'll respectfully disagree. Peace my friend.

Genocider

@Glenrok

8 күн бұрын

Hamas…..?

Ancient Israel never existed outside of the bible

@Glenrok

8 күн бұрын

That is patently untrue. The kingdom of Israel existed over Judea and Samaria- where modern day the West Bank is located.

@JBrix86

8 күн бұрын

@@Glenrok It's very true. A fact, in fact. Judea didn't exist until after the Yehudites returned from exile in what had been god king *Gudea's* province of Lagash. But, it's absolutely ridiculous to believe one type of people of one religion controlled and were the only ones to live in a region that connects Europe, Russia, Asia and Africa in a time before borders. The entitled stupidity it takes to think something like that in this day and age is incomprehensible to me.

@Glenrok

7 күн бұрын

@@JBrix86 sigh. Where did I say that?? What type of “entitled stupidity” does it take to automatically assume that’s what someone MEANT??! Regardless, the kingdom of Israel DID exist- long before the current troubles. Palestine, however, did not……

@JBrix86

7 күн бұрын

@@Glenrok Where did I say you had said that?

@Glenrok

7 күн бұрын

@@JBrix86 if you weren’t saying it was ME who said or believed it- then WHY did you mention it in the context of our debate??