Why The Culture War Matters | Matthew Goodwin
In this interview, John speaks with British political scientist @drmatthewgoodwin.
Matthew recounts the emergence of a new class of elites and the ways in which they have diverged from the more traditional British ruling class, and more importantly, from the general public. They are distinguished by their elite education, lack of real-world experience, and a tendency to refuse engagement with the cultural issues that matter to the everyman. This phenomenon, Goodwin argues, is global and causing both sides of the political establishment to drift further from their constituents.
The framework Goodwin presents offers a compelling explanation for the recent rise in populism around the world, marked by the democratic success of leaders such as Donald Trump, Nigel Farage, Geert Wilders, and Javier Milei.
Matthew Goodwin is an academic, bestselling author, pollster, and speaker known for his research on: politics, populism, elections, voting, public opinion, Brexit, Europe, academic freedom and more. He is Professor of Politics at Rutherford College, University of Kent, recently served as Senior Visiting Fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, at Chatham House, Senior Fellow with the UK In a Changing Europe, Senior Fellow at the Legatum Institute, and Senior Advisor to the UK Education Committee. In 2022, Matt was appointed Social Mobility Commissioner.
The author of six books, he wrote the No.2 Sunday Times bestseller Values, Voice and Virtue: The New British Politics, and the Sunday Times bestseller, National Populism: The Revolt Against Liberal Democracy, which was translated into multiple languages and listed among the Financial Times and Times Literary Supplement as one of the books of the year. He is also co-author of the 2015 Political Book of the Year, Revolt on the Right, which was long-listed for the Orwell Prize and listed among the Financial Times and Guardian books of the year.
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00:00 Intro
00:49 Introducing Matthew Goodwin
01:34 People are turning against the 'new-elite'
03:37 The aftermath of Boris Johnson
08:30 Labor and Conservatives are closer to each other than the average voter
13:27 We need to move on from Margaret Thatcher
19:35 1:9 conservative to liberal academics
23:30 Nationalism and what's deferent with the new elites
29:05 Were the old elites kinder?
31:30 Why have Universities declined so much?
36:00 Does diversity and inclusion makes us less inclusive?
40:48 If you don't believe in God, you'll believe in anything
43:50 How do people reconcile the contradictions of critical theory
49:36 BLM and other Marxist movements
54:44 How do we encourage people to come forward?
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Excellent. Why do we not have people of this calibre to vote for?
@jimturpin6503
3 ай бұрын
No decent man would put his life or that of his family online given the media's ability to slander and defame anyone that does not tow the line.
@Thejonthomas
2 ай бұрын
Precisely why we need men who are decent and brave to run for office at every level of government@@jimturpin6503
Mathew is one of the very few who actually talks sense about politics.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
4 ай бұрын
He used to be an obnoxious open borders type who smeared ordinary people for opposing mass immigration. He works for Chatham House and he used to write papers about how to infiltrate movements opposed to mass immigration c/f "Right reaction" 2011
@DrOktobermensch
3 ай бұрын
That's because of his background and work he's doing - since he's not beholden to a party line, he can speak clearly and without hiding anything about his research and analysis. Shame he's not more widely known in the UK
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
3 ай бұрын
@@DrOktobermensch He literally works for the Foreign Office. He published a paper in 2011 for Chatham House called "Right reaction" - all about how to infiltrate movements opposed to mass immigration
@joycegibbs5267
3 ай бұрын
he's waaaayyy too optimistic though !!
@theinngu5560
3 ай бұрын
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp seems like he has matured and learnt a lot since then. Wisdom is when the mind is flexible as it gains more evidence and experience.Fixed views are a sign of narrow mindedness and consequently tension.
Matthew Goodwin a real modern day hero. John Anderson is a great man in his own right.
@theinngu5560
3 ай бұрын
How you wish that these guys would advise our next government. Along with Konstantin Kisin, Douglas Murray, Nigel Farage….and any Javier Milei type.
@xyo1337
3 ай бұрын
He didn't used to be. His analysis was way off during the days of The Daily Politics on the BBC. Luckily he woke up!
John is so correct about the lack of humility. This is sadly the age of the hubristic narcissist.
@joycegibbs5267
3 ай бұрын
OMG yes. And it's getting worse and worse !
The UK has entered a pre-revolutionary phase.
@PibrochPonder
3 ай бұрын
It feels like it
@longandshort6639
2 ай бұрын
Civil war coming?
@Thejonthomas
2 ай бұрын
I've just learned about Matt, today. His ideas certainly resonate with me, and I find myself agreeing with him. I'm an American, and I feel the same way as you about my own country. I think it's increasingly important that we keep our heads about us. While we should firmly stand up for the values that make both our countries great, I'd strongly, to the very end, urge people to resist acting out of anger and to become violent. I only say that, because, at least here in the United States, there's increasing buzz about potential for civil war. Grace and peace to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.@@PibrochPonder
I vote Conservative, but I no longer see them as an option, and Labour are no different.
@FiveLiver
4 ай бұрын
UKIP still exist.
@christophersmith3248
4 ай бұрын
And the SDP
@davidthompson4662
4 ай бұрын
Now called the Reform Party, the party that I will be voting for.@@FiveLiver
@FiveLiver
4 ай бұрын
@@davidthompson4662 No - the Reform Party were known as the Brexit Party, UKIP are separate. They both had Farage as leader though.
@davidthompson4662
4 ай бұрын
@@FiveLiver ok, I understand now, and thanks
Thank goodness for articulate, educated people like Matthew speaking up publicly.
What a breath of fresh air this interview was. Matthew Goodwin has hit the nail on the proverbial head with exactly what is wrong in British Politics today. We need people like him, Douglas Murray and Konstantin Kisin in politics to put back value, pride and common sense into our democracy before the new elites take things too far to the left!
@FiveLiver
4 ай бұрын
Did you support For Britain? Anne_Marie_Waters was what British politics needed but not enough people made the effort to get involved. She was talking like this while Goodwin was banging on about 'the far-right'.
@mysterioanonymous3206
4 ай бұрын
You limit yourself and your understanding of politics significantly if you keep thinking in left/right terms... It's a very simplistic view and will make sure solid policy isn't happening due to Polarisation. They're almost meaningless terms. Some typical leftist policies are necessary as are right ones, so let's think practical and NOT dogmatic.
@grannyannie2948
4 ай бұрын
I agree except for Kisin
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
4 ай бұрын
Goodwin used to be an obnoxious open borders type who smeared ordinary people for opposing mass immigration. He works for Chatham House and he used to write papers about how to infiltrate movements opposed to mass immigration c/f "Right reaction" 2011
@markjeffery7319
4 ай бұрын
@@FiveLiveran Irish lesbian who's in favour of LGBTQ nonsense and political correctness? NO!
You speak the truth so bravely and logically! Thank you Matthew -
@joycegibbs5267
3 ай бұрын
makes you wonder how he's still kept his job ??
Those elites in power don’t care and will not compromise. They will just get rid of those who don’t comply or agree one way or another.
@01Lenda
3 ай бұрын
They are trying and NOT succeeding.
Tony Blair started the spiral downward in the UK.
@LisaCarswell-zt4mn
2 ай бұрын
I'm from America how did he do that
@snakeplissken5480
2 ай бұрын
@@LisaCarswell-zt4mn all the policies of the so called conservative party are continuation of blairs sometimes doubling and tripling down , instead of reversing blairs poison they took it all further in an attempt to out progressive him , Tory prime minister cameron described himself and his party as the heirs to blair
@davehiggins8083
2 ай бұрын
Not too difficult apparently - he invited the 3rd world to relocate to the UK and gave the bill for their housing, education and health care to the UK's indigenous population. Blair was obviously a great inspiration to Biden.
@joce11
2 ай бұрын
@@LisaCarswell-zt4mnThe same way as the Democrats and Bill Clinton did in the US and it's called Third Way politics. With respect, research it.
@user-cu6rv3bh2y
Ай бұрын
Yes
Oh for more people with this intellect 🙏
I have never heard of Matthew before. What an articulate, smart, young man who speaks in common sense! I really enjoyed this episode.
Listening to Matt is so great. Reassuring that not everything is lost in the West!
Thank you for an excellent conversation. What you discuss applies here in Ireland 🇮🇪 as well. Retaking our education systems & media is a must to begin with. 🍻 from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪. 🇦🇺 🇬🇧.
@01Lenda
3 ай бұрын
It is called Sovereignty. THEY ARE TRYING TO REPLACE IT WITH their low mentality subjects, who are lazy and live off whatever they give them. Look at our border crossing in the US. Texas has been overrun. Why? Because we want to put us, 1st.
This is such an important video, John is a brilliant interviewer.
I think the problem with Boris Johnson is that the only thing he ever really believed in was Boris Johnson.
I would also argue that the loss of the Christian ethos and philosophical basis for our universities has left them floundering around for a moral purpose. The result is that they have invented one based on all the issues you're discussing, particularly the acceptance of the ridiculous notion that White Europeans are the only ethnic group guilty of the invented concept called 'racism'.
@robcooper5813
4 ай бұрын
If a person does not have God as a foundation for life then it leads to very poor decisions and decision making both on the left and right side of politics.
@kirstinstrand6292
4 ай бұрын
Humanism is better than Authoritarian Christianity. Give it a thought. God is not necessary if an individual has agency, achieved from self-knowledge. 😮😮😅😂
@murphyorama
4 ай бұрын
Whether you believe God to be 'necessary' or not is irrelevant. What do you mean by 'agency'? If God is a fact, you don't have a logical option other than to do as he requires. The chance of God not existing as the creator of everything including your presumed 'agency' is so tiny that it is irrational to place your faith otherwise. @@kirstinstrand6292
@KunDziki
4 ай бұрын
@@kirstinstrand6292achieved by rationality granted by God. Repent and pray sinner!
@jenna2431
4 ай бұрын
Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing. Christianity says do the right thing because you've been told to.
Very true! The FIRST thing that they go for is your career/ livelihood/ means to pay your bills and put food in your mouth!
Great interview. Matt Goodwin is always worth listening to and his books are a good read.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
4 ай бұрын
Goodwin used to be an obnoxious open borders type who smeared ordinary people for opposing mass immigration. He works for Chatham House and he used to write papers about how to infiltrate movements opposed to mass immigration c/f "Right reaction" 2011
Love Matt Goodwin and the work he does
@iancormie9916
3 ай бұрын
This interview certainly touched a number of our society's ills.
Well spoken, clarified and articulated...
A very sensible thinking man, there's not many people like this in academia unfortunately.
great debate. Really enjoyed the sober, composed realistic comments. I"m in Canada....you can imagine as a parent how I feel about how things are going. Yikes.
Low wages, high rents and cultural oblivion are just some of the many 'benefits' of you know what.
One of your best John. Extremely concise and informative. Congratulations
I think mass immigration is particularly important as an issue as, with the exception of Japan, the Western elites are determined to pursue a policy that is not only wildly unpopular among their people (including huge numbers of rank and file Center Left people) but is quite obviously designed deliberately to destroy their countries.
@grahamt5924
4 ай бұрын
I am surprised they have allowed you to post that comment on KZread without being banned for life.
@Iittleblackchook
4 ай бұрын
I lost my last job as it was overrun by Indians doing it THEIR WAY
@Itraininthebogs
4 ай бұрын
They have been instructed by the WEF and the UN to flood every western country with immigrants to crash the system and create a single government to oversee the US, Europe, UK, Australia, NZ and Canada as a single economic and cultural entity. In order to achieve that, states must dissolve. It's a generational project that will likely be complete by the 2040s. I know that seems very soon but the immigrant situation is going to accelerate in the coming years because all liberal governments are onboard for this project and no powerful or meaningful opposition exists except for the voters but they don't get to vote on immigration issues, ever. Global government had its seeds sown in the founding of the UN but will truly blossom once western states begin to collapse as they will with the debt growing every day.
@Itraininthebogs
4 ай бұрын
@@grahamt5924my comments get deleted
@fedorshabashev4387
4 ай бұрын
but these policies are good for real estate prices!
What a great honest conversation about the reality of how things look
Matthew Goodwin articulates perfectly the currents flowing through society today. The quality of (the majority) of our ruling classes is abysmal, and in some cases downright corrupt. The mainstream media is to a massive extent to blame for this. It is so important that we follow the brave examples of the few (growing) who contradict wokery and progress our societies with logic and reason.
Never heard of this guy before, but he speaks very clearly and succinctly about this topic. If only there were more professors willing to speak up about this.
What a sensible clear understanding and discussion with enough nuance to satisfy many perspectives. Fabulous, thank you.
Matthew, is a very important person for the good of the western world. Not only are is observations spot on but he can express them in a way that everyone one can follow. We must all learn to speak out about the capture of our country. We must all stand up for the truth about what it is to be human. Before it is too late.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
4 ай бұрын
Goodwin used to be an obnoxious open borders type who smeared ordinary people for opposing mass immigration. He works for Chatham House and he used to write papers about how to infiltrate movements opposed to mass immigration c/f "Right reaction" 2011
Nailed it! Ruling without representation. Within a Democracy!!
This was spectacular
I've spent a few hours listening to people talk about Trump and saying that they can't understand why he is so popular. This talk explains why. He makes his people feel respected. They are willing to forgive him a lot for that.
Thank you for this excellent conversation . Thank you for your courage and clarity. Such a breath of fresh air..
The students in a high school in Brooklyn NY, were recently kicked out and forced to conduct classes remotely as illegal immigrants were placed in the school.
@MB-dp1rj
4 ай бұрын
Biden's "open border" policy...ruling without representation!!! Declares war without Congressional approval, etc. The Far Left are now as toxic and pernicious as the Far Right.
@grannyannie2948
4 ай бұрын
Replacement?
A very good piece of intellectual discussion
How do we get these discussions on mainstream free to air television! It needs to be on there. Not hiding on KZread.
We must go after elite’s assets because they are going after ours. They told us we would own nothing, so who will own what exists ?
@elbertmoreno2159
3 ай бұрын
Agreed, as they're living off other people's hard work and lives.
Perfectly summarized DEI. Thank you for this conversation.
Excellent perspective!!! Thanks John and Matthew!!
Excellent interview.
WOW! I finally heard, almost word for word, what I see happening around me. THANKS!!
So reassuring to hear my concerns so eloquently expressed. Thank you
The Truth Logic and common sense from Matt we need him in the cabinet
This conversation discusses many of the reasons why I am standing for the Reform Party in Oxford West and Abingdon. at the next General Elction.
@jumblestiltskin1365
4 ай бұрын
Good luck to you.
@jamesgunn5103
4 ай бұрын
@@jumblestiltskin1365THank you
@Globaldave1970
4 ай бұрын
Good luck, James. I shall look out for your result.
@jamesgunn5103
4 ай бұрын
Thx @@Globaldave1970
@mataform
3 ай бұрын
Good for you.😊
Admirable common sense spoken, supported by real factual evidence based information. Well done to both of you for brining mana to those of us isolated in the political wilderness.
In my opinion the men who fought alongside each other and relied on each other in world war 2 knew that society had to work for everyone and not just an elite group. The idea that noblesse oblige and the more fortunate members of society should help those in need has gone. I hope we don't have to have another major war involving many nations to rediscover that we are all deserving of good treatment.
Unless a new counter elite emerges soon there won't be anything left to save.
I would love to be able to vote for him as a politician ,
Great interview with Matthew Godwin, who made so many excellent points. British people shouldn’t think of the halcyon days of Conservative rule from 1979 to 1990 under Margaret Thatcher, and forget about the Major government that followed it from 1990 until 1997. In fact, the Major government marked, in monetary policy, a much more decisive break with the past than the Thatcher government. Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont made the Bank of England the first European bank with an inflation targeting regime. By making the target inflation indicator the Retail Prices Index excluding mortgage interest (RPIX), not the RPI, he also recognized that there should be a distinction between a consumer price series used for this purpose and one used for uprating pensions or incomes. And in 1995, with the incorporation of a housing depreciation component in the RPI, the RPIX series became a superior target inflation indicator as it now gave a substantial weight to current house price changes. The Conservative governments from David Cameron forward have largely destroyed this legacy. Gordon Brown made the UK HICP, misleadingly renamed the UK CPI, in December 2003, but the exclusion of housing prices from the new inflation measure was only supposed to be temporary, until Eurostat added an owner-occupied housing component based on the net acquisitions approach to the HICP. Unfortunately, waiting for this to happen has been like waiting for the second coming of Christ. The Cameron government, against all expectations, chose to create a CPIH series that supplemented the UK CPI, not with an OOH component including housing prices but with an imputed rent measure. Now the Conservatives plan to turn the RPI into a meaningless index with a movement that mirrors the RPI. In the long term, the CPIH will also almost certainly be the target inflation indicator of the Bank of England, since the Conservatives seem bent on a J.R.R. Tolkien approach to inflation measurement: one index to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. It is a betrayal of the legacy of the Major government and is bound to lead to more of the housing booms and busts that have plagued the British economy for so long. Shaun Richards, an English economist and blogger, has written extensively on this issue. It is a pity that he has not been more influential with the UK government.
An extremely intellectual and informing dialogue that can open new dimensions for all of us.
We need people like Matt Goodwin in politics
Politicians have forgotten what Democracy means, you must always listen to public opinion, and do what's right.
By awful event, do you mean: When a violent criminal (who pointed a pistol at the belly of a pregnant woman) died while resisting arrest from a heart attack/drug overdose. Then there was a political show trial of the officers present and they were sent to jail, having done nothing wrong.
Genuine logical reasoning explained with terms understood by normalnon acasemics who love geopolitics history and social science. Thank you for the lovely interview
Good man Mathew.,for that statement on immigration.
Great interview and insight…. However literally nothing is going to change. This country is finished.
I was wondering about societal changes, remaining in the dark. Not anymore, Very enlightening !
How I agree with the concept of a new counter elite.
60s 70s 80s and 90s were the best of times. Stemmed from back to back World Wars.. Now as the silent generation dies off and boomers going into retirement, the selfish world has slowly lost the moral plot..
@FiveLiver
4 ай бұрын
It sees the height of morality to be antiwhite.
@dontcallthemliberals3316
4 ай бұрын
The boomers of the west had the opportunity to be the greatest generation in human history. Instead they will be seen as the most morally bankrupt.
Excellent interview thank you!!
Thank you from Canada 🇨🇦
Thank you John.
Great discussion… and very encouraging for the future!
Thank you Mr Anderson. You are a gift to Western civilisation.
That was spot on.
Great interview as always.
I was thinking about this yesterday. Workers are coming and going. Until a new worker is trained the quality goes down. Customer service is affected. Turnover is very high everywhere. When people were responsible you put up with the policies bc you had to pay your bills so you keep your job. Now adults living with their parents they quit their jobs and go elsewhere. The quality of employees is going down. Staff cut in front of customers almost run down the customer. They are rude discourteous. Apparently they are unaware of if you don't have customers you dont have a job. The company does not exist if you chase your customers away
Superb gentleman
Another fabulous and insightful interview
The extremist voices on both ends are driving the rest of us insane.
@paddioche
2 ай бұрын
There's no extreme on the right, if its extreme to protect your own country and care about your citizens then were all lost
Very well put.
Super grateful. Sanity brain gym, indeed. 💜
This is what I've been thinking. It's making me think of joining the Liberal party despite not being aligned to a party in the past.
Excellent discussion! Matthew summarized my own observations, concerns, and sense of cultural malaise quite well.
The Voice told us what Australia REALLY thinks OI!
@vladimirvolkov187
4 ай бұрын
Voice referendum results were very close to the results of 1999 referendum on the preamble, not much changed in 24 years.
@Iittleblackchook
4 ай бұрын
What a waste of money we all knew it would be
@niceworkabc
4 ай бұрын
@@Iittleblackchook but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the $38 BILLION given to indigenous affairs ANNUALLY - with no apparent oversight or accountability ... there certainly isn't any sign of the money being spent in the vast majority of our Indigenous communities.
@paulwary
4 ай бұрын
I started off undecided, somewhat leaning to yes. Gradually the yes campaign convinced me to vote no.
@grannyannie2948
4 ай бұрын
And yet states and councils seek to legislate it anyway. It's become an example of the real problem with modern politics ignoring what the people actually want.
We need to rethink our governance, including the ceiling on assets and how surplus is managed. corporations and their ceos get unheard off amounts while the rest of us struggles to pay electricity bills.
@elbertmoreno2159
3 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
I HATE the term ELITE!! It implies something special which it definitely IS NOT!!!
@FiveLiver
4 ай бұрын
He is describing them as they see themselves.
Another Great One John.
We can’t trust, these days. Our representatives not only don’t represent us, they don’t represent themselves truthfully. Lying is the culture. Say what people want to hear and then do what you like.
This is so true.
This guy is a really clear thinker and has done a brilliant job of connecting with the perspective of working class people, impressive considering he’s a university professor. Great work, sir. His ability to get right to the heart of the issues in such a succinct way is refreshing
Goodwin speaks truth to power. Heed his words, ans spread them. Share this important conversation.
You are both amazing men fighting for our freedom…thank you and God bless you🙏😇💕❤️
Very informative. Deeply thought provoking. Thank you John, and thank you Matthew. We must get Matthew out here to hear more of his talks.
Excellent interview
excellent podcast. Thank you
Excellent!!!!
Whether an author was a professor chased from their position for political reasons or not is something I look for in pop-academic books these days- they tend to have a uniquely compelling tone and perspective!
My thanks. Carry on, 2024!
00:02 Recognition of people's values and voice in institutions is crucial. 02:21 Growing rebellion among voters against the new elite imposing its values 07:03 Challenging the broken status quo and giving a voice to the rest of the country. 09:09 The elites and the masses are drifting further apart on cultural issues. 13:48 Conservatives need to find a new approach post-red War. 16:04 Contemporary conservatism is failing to adapt to cultural debates 20:07 Institutions have become politicized and lack diverse ideas. 22:06 Brexit's promise of 'Take Back Control' has not been fulfilled. 26:05 The new elite is reshaping Britishness and Englishness around diversity and multiculturalism while denigrating the national community. 28:11 National identity eroded by globalization and distant elite. 32:32 Non-Elite universities in Britain have become deeply politicized and have given rise to a legislation to protect academic freedom. 34:44 University institutions are requiring ideological conformity for academics and students. 38:49 Challenging the prevailing narrative on institutional racism and inequality 40:59 Breakdown of traditional narratives leading to individual uncertainty and lack of social trust. 45:24 The expansion of concepts like hate crimes and white privilege is causing division in society. 47:30 Society is realizing the hidden agendas behind certain ideologies. 51:54 Police morale collapsed leading to reduced law enforcement amidst BLM protests. 53:53 The working class will suffer from the culture war.
@st.joanne
4 ай бұрын
Thank you
Thank you .
Love this.
Thank you
Exactly right, thank you.
In a few recent job applications I have had to identify working in a diverse environment with diverse people. This therefore means I have to label work colleagues based on their dna instead of their work and work ethic. This is discrimination and divisive requests in these gov jobs. It's a total joke!
Thanx Matt
thank you keep walking