I was wondering when this would be covered. I was there with my dad in the front few rows when my parents were stationed there. My dad got very impatient and wanted to beat the traffic going home so we left about a half hour before it was meant to be over. We got home and my mom was crying and hugged us. We had no idea why and she told us to look at the news on the tv. We couldn’t believe it happened since we had just left not long before there, where we standing watching. My dad’s impatience may have saved our lives. May the less fortunate ones R.I.P.

@eddiemurphy6178

Жыл бұрын

Wow.

@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934

Жыл бұрын

A simple twist of fate.

@LittleKitty22

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if your dad could sense something terrible was about to happen - I get very impatient too when I just know I have to get away from somewhere. On each occasion, it has turned out I was right. Glad to hear you got away from there before disaster struck!

@Bakmagma

Жыл бұрын

This account of the events gave me chills! You and your family were truly lucky!

@bobcoleman9045

Жыл бұрын

@@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 great song 🎵

If I could suggest a video topic, I'd like to suggest the fire that took place on the set of the Indian TV series The Sword of Tipu Sultan in 1989, which killed 62 people and remains the deadliest accident to take place on a film set to date.

@Stellra52

Жыл бұрын

Would like too see this too.

@kdfulton3152

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@larrychilders6599

Жыл бұрын

Good thing you said accident or else I'd have to say that pretty sure the filming of the 10 commandments (1929) was deadlier

@deletdis6173

Жыл бұрын

O wow that's a perfect topic for Mr. Horror.

@TinkSalsa

Жыл бұрын

@@larrychilders6599 were there deaths on that set that weren't an accident??

I used to visit air shows with my grandfather all over Germany when I was a kid. We were supposed to visit Rammstein that day, too but my mother insisted on us staying home to celebrate my father’s birthday. We were bummed but it probably saved our lives…

@cpt_nordbart

Жыл бұрын

By the way the Band is called Rammstein the airbase is called Ramstein

@matbroomfield

Жыл бұрын

There were 300,000 people there and 63 spectators died. Your chances of dying even if you were there, was minute.

@datdude3327

Жыл бұрын

@@matbroomfield yes but hundreds were hospitalised and the event itself would’ve been chaotic or even traumatic.

@tomboy_kisser

Жыл бұрын

@@datdude3327 That changes literally nothing about what Mat said in response to guest user. Please work on your reading comprehension. The world needs FAR less "likes waffles, therefore change the subject to pancakes" backpedaling-based non-sequiturs.

@C-Here

Жыл бұрын

@@tomboy_kisser 😂😂😅

Since we are on air shows, how about the story of Bud Holland? He was an arrogant B-52 pilot who constantly put both his aircraft and crew in danger for the sake of stunts. Like the time he flew three feet about a ridgeline for a photo shoot. Or how he circled his B-52 over his daughter's baseball game starting from 2,500 feet. He lost altitude and didn't recover until 1,000 feet off the ground. His command was unwilling to discipline him. Because of that, it led to the deaths of not only Holland but his three of his crewmembers in 1994 at Fairchild AFB. During a rehearsal for an upcoming air show Holland's B-52H went into a stall and crashed beside a nuclear weapons storage bunker. There was a group of spectators on hand to film and witness this as one of the crewmembers, Colonel Robert Wolff, was on board for his final flight before taking a desk job. He was a last minute addition to the crew. His wife witnessed his death.

@petermontoya1796

Жыл бұрын

I never met Bud Holland in person, but when I was stationed at Dyess AFB, Texas, he was rumored to have been there to assist in flying the B-52's off base. This was in the early 80's and Dyess AFB was transferring from a B-52 base to a B-1 base. Where those old Buffs went ?? IDK. Anyway, I was working with the 96th Bomb Wing Heavy at the 96th OMS Squadron. Apparently, "Bud" was bragging about his pilot prowess and claimed that he alone could out fly and of these "Bones" that's what the pilots call the B-1 Bomber. From what some of the crew chief guys said, Bud was a jerk to everyone. There weren't too many people that liked to fly with him. He only had a rookie crew, because the smart crew members asked to be reassigned to a different aircraft crew. I'm sure you know, if you can't trust anyone of your crew members, you don't fly with them. Like you said, because of his stupid arrogance, he killed several fine Airmen. For what ?? Steps have been taken like where everyone has a voice on the flight deck. Everyone can call "Time Out" if they feel something dangerous is gonna happen. Pig headed idiots like BUD, are the morons who don't listen, get people hurt and waste training time. Hey, thanks for that reminder. Cheers mate.

@SeamusDonohueEVEOnline

Жыл бұрын

TheFlightChannel has an episode on that: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4h9zbF-gMmTZdI.html

@Unownshipper

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Top Gun. Or at least, a more realistic, grounded in reality Top Gun. Seriously, Maverick has got to be one of the worst characters in Hollywood history (cocky, reckless, pretentious, and untrustworthy) and yet we’re meant to root for him. Why do we keep lionizing self-absorbed assholes?

@emilyadams3228

Жыл бұрын

I went to an air show at El Toro AFB between LA & San Diego in April 1985 (it's not on my paper atlas any more, don't know what happened to it), & walked around & under a B-52. And ya know, at no time did I think "Yeah, you could totally fly this like a 1922 stunt biplane." I've never been in the military, never flew anything, but I still couldn't help but respect an aircraft that I couldn't even get in frame w/a 35mm lens, even w/a whole air base to work on. And yeah...the daughter's baseball game thing? I'm no expert, but 2500 feet doesn't sound very high for a thing that's designed to cruise at 36 grand...while carrying nukes that the crew is ready to drop at a moment's notice. But to get w/in 1000 feet of the ground, and recover? Dude...for fuck's sake, I've been higher than that IN A BUILDING (Sears Tower). Had the baseball game been in there, I could've taken aerial pictures of a guy almost smashing a B-52, from a thing that's bolted to the ground. Those people at the game must've been F& terrified.

@SalisburySnake

Жыл бұрын

@@emilyadams3228 I looked it up for you... El Toro was a Marine Corps Air Station (not AFB) and was decommissioned in 1999. The site was used as the test track tor the American version of Top Gear, among other things. Some of the runways have already been replaced by a park and streets and houses. The two longest runways appear to be in the process of demolition in the latest satellite pic, which was probably a few years ago now.

that bus transporting the injured but the driver is having a hard time searching for a nearby hospital is just plain gut wrenching.

@martinstock

4 ай бұрын

Surely not the full story. Guess someone knew that there was in Ludwigshafen a hospital specialized for burns and thus told the bus driver to drive to Ludwigshafen. But couldn't tell him the exact name or address of this hospital. The BG Klinik Ludwigshafen is the competence center for burns responsible for South-West Germany and the Alsace. But there are other hospitals in Ludwigshafen as well. This hospital is even in a suburb called Oggersheim (closer to the huge BASF plant there than to Ludwigshafen city center).

I watched this reportage of a guy who lost his wife and child in it and a nurse who was pretty new to this job and cared months long for the victims. Both had severe ptsd even after decades. It's really sad.... And for some reason it's not an event I have ever heard anyone talk about, I just randomly found it on youtube.

@profhortsunlover1536

Жыл бұрын

never heard the band Rammstein?

@mgratk

Жыл бұрын

It was VERY big news in the US at the time. Germany too of course.

@foggyfrogy

Жыл бұрын

@@profhortsunlover1536 yes it's one of my favorite bands. I'm talking about my work colleagues, they heard about it but didn't really remember what happened

@joannafeltner8313

Жыл бұрын

I lived in ramstein for almost 2 years and no one ever talked about it nor did I see these memorials. So sad.

@jhaney

7 ай бұрын

While I do not directly know the person who lost his family, I do know that his loved ones would have been handled with care. I was one of the ones who put those folks who died immediately onto the flatbeds to be taken to a hanger until the temporary morgue was in place. We placed every single person on their own cot and watched over them until all were taken to the temporary morgue. I was also the one who found Mario Naldini and with the help of another person we cut the straps holding what was left of him from his ejection seat and put him directly into a body bag. It is not that his parachute did not open as much as he ejected too low and parallel with the ground which means there was no chance of survival no matter what the parachute did.

"Failure on every level" is a common and overused phrase, but here it was a perfect fit.

I sub to dozens of youtube channels ranging on a multitude of topics and Fascinating Horror is the only one that consistently puts out a video every week at nearly the exact same time, NO EXCUSES!!! I feel a need to make this effort recognized and appreciated. Thanks FH.

@aoki6332

Жыл бұрын

and i love how the editing is good whit almost not any stock video and image like so many other channel

@JT-dh7es

Жыл бұрын

well they all just copy from eachother its not that hard

@J0SHUAKANE

Жыл бұрын

That Chapter has been putting out 2 true crime videos a week for years. Not that its a contest, but he deserves to be mentioned.

@martin-uz1py

Жыл бұрын

So long as the video is well made and interests me I don't mind a patchy delivery schedule. I don't want the creators I watch to think they have to constantly churn out stuff if it is going to be poor quality. Having said the FH does deliver constant high quality, if harrowing content.

@DaveSCameron

Жыл бұрын

And yer ma?

Two music-related facts: - the hard rock/metal band Rammstein got its name from this event and the word "ramming", and the self titled song in their debut album references this accident; - a young Boris Brejcha (who went to become a famous techno DJ) was in the crowd, and got severely injured in the face - that accident made him more reserved and discovering the passion for music, and is also why he always wears a venetian carnival mask when performing or giving interviews.

@heidibock1017

Жыл бұрын

My first thought when I saw this posted was "Ramstein....die sonne sheint."

@cpt_nordbart

Жыл бұрын

They did get the name wrong though. Rammstein, vs Ramstein

@johntaylorson7769

Жыл бұрын

Big fan of Boris Brejcha's music- I never really paid attention to the scar/burn on his face before and certainly didn't realise he got it from this. Crazy.

@apkelly01

Жыл бұрын

@@cpt_nordbart no, the name is right, the band named themselves after the disaster but put in another 'm' in their name to distinguish them from the air show.

@EveryFairyDies

Жыл бұрын

There seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether the Rammstein fact is true. Their first name was Rammstein-Flugschau (lit. Rammstein Airshow) because they wrote a song about the event called 'Ramstein' and they became known as 'that band with the Rammstein song' (remember, Rammstein formed in 1994, so the accident would still be relatively fresh in people's minds). The extra 'm' was a simple spelling error. But the band later claimed in an interview that the name actually comes from 'a doorstop device found on old gates, called Rammsteine', and the extra 'm' gives the literal translation 'ramming stone'. Also, disappointed I had to scroll this far down until someone mentioned Rammstein. 'Ja, nein, Rammstein!!'

Every time one of these videos come out, I stop, drop and watch. Immediately, wherever possible. Some of the absolute best content on this platform, no question.

@KCzz15

Жыл бұрын

I recommend Lemmino, Montemayor and Jon Bois, who are the actual best content creators in the platform. Assuming you're interested.

@sirpiss1708

Жыл бұрын

@@KCzz15 yea but they only upload once every few years

@KCzz15

Жыл бұрын

@@sirpiss1708 Months not years, but that's the tradeoff for extreme quality.

@sirpiss1708

Жыл бұрын

@@KCzz15 Jon bois hasn’t uploaded for 5 years, montemayor hasn’t for a year, lemmino hasn’t for half a year, I can appreciate very high quality but I’ll trade a small bit less quality for a lot more quantity

@KCzz15

Жыл бұрын

@@sirpiss1708 Jon Bois uploads his stuff on the Secret Base channel now, his most recent videos were 4 weeks ago, 2 months ago, and a four part mega series with part four dropping 4 months ago. It's really been a year since the battle of Salvo island for Montemayor? Wow, he's probably due for uploading soon then.

I was an Army Medevac (UH-60) pilot when this happened. My crew and I had just completed a mass casualty exercise in Frankfurt and had landed to refuel and go home. We got the call that an airliner had gone down at Ramstein, so we loaded up and relined everything getting to the scene. We didn't find out it was a mid-air airshow crash until we landed. We flew injured all over central Europe that day. It was my birthday....

@lexi-xw5tz

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for helping

@Keckegenkai

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the help!

@FM-ig3th

Жыл бұрын

Steve, I was at Flatiron Ft. Rucker when this happened . Our crews all talked about how difficult that day had to been for the Dustoff crews amidst the chaos.

@nadogrl

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service.❤

@nadogrl

Жыл бұрын

@@FM-ig3th - Thank you for your service.❤

My dad wanted to take my mum and me to that flight show. When we wanted to head off to Ramstein base I felt sick to the bone and we could not go. At first my dad was kind of angry that he missed the show. When we turned on the news in the afternoon we saw what happened. My parents turned pale. Nobody knew of course what would have happened to us or not but we felt very lucky that we did not even have to witness all those horrible scenes.

My guidance counselor in middle school was on the scene that day, and had to council the students through their trauma the following school year. She only mentioned it to me once, but I could tell that it was a very sensitive subject.

My friend, her husband and their baby son (my godson) lived nearby in Idar-Oberstein and had considered going that day, but decided against it. I nearly went crazy trying to get hold of them (6 hour time difference between us made it difficult), but was so relieved when I finally got them.

@jezcoates

Жыл бұрын

I went to Idar Oberstein on a school exchange. Many, many years ago and still have fond memories of that time 😊

I've noticed a few commenters mention the German band Rammstein, which derived it's name from the disaster at Ramstein airbase. Their first album had a song about it, called Rammstein. The song's lyrics read as a poem and is set to a dirge, remembering the horror of that day. The imagery of the official music video to the song doesn't reference the airshow at all: it uses images from a live performance of the band and the David Lynch movie Lost Highway. Rammstein Rammstein Ein Mensch brennt A human burns Rammstein Rammstein Fleischgeruch in der Luft Smell of burning flesh in the air Rammstein Rammstein Ein Kind stirbt A child dies Rammstein Rammstein Die Sonne scheint The sun shines Rammstein Rammstein Ein Flammenmeer A sea of flames Rammstein Rammstein Blut gerinnt auf dem Asphalt Blood coagulating on the asphalt Rammstein Rammstein Mütter schreien Mothers cry Rammstein Rammstein Die Sonne scheint The sun shines Rammstein Rammstein Ein Massengrab A mass grave Rammstein Rammstein Kein Entrinnen No escape Rammstein Rammstein Kein Vogel singt mehr No bird song anymore Rammstein Rammstein Und die Sonne scheint And the sun shines Rammstein Rammstein Rammstein Rammstein Rammstein

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

Wow.

@DARWINZOO

Жыл бұрын

Thank God someone brought that up! 62 year old American My heart burns

@giacomocasanova2893

Жыл бұрын

@DAS KEEP why would they have lived on the base?

@gty7kgle

Жыл бұрын

The song also starts with the sound of a jet engine

@weerwolfproductions

Жыл бұрын

@@gty7kgle Ha, i never noticed! Thanks for pointing it out. I have trouble hearing higher notes, but after cranking up the sound of the song i could hear it.

Kim Strader was the pilot of the medivac helicopter that got hit. He was a friend of my parents. Brought gifts for the births of my brother and sister. His wife even gave my mom a very nice antique rocking chair. He was an amazingly sweet man. RIP Kim ❤️

There used to be a video series called Faces of Death. And they showed this disaster in its entirety. Including the part when the plane slams down into the parking lot setting off a lot of chain reaction explosions from cars catching on fire.

@iansmith3975

Жыл бұрын

i remember those videos! i also remember some of them being fake?

@boltvanderhuge8711

Жыл бұрын

@@iansmith3975 Yeah at least 1/5 of the segments were blatantly fake iirc. Also before anyone goes searching for the series, chances are very high that you've already seen all of the real segments if you've spent any time on the internet watching accident/war/assassination vids.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368

Жыл бұрын

@@boltvanderhuge8711 Allan A. Apone, a make-up and special FX artist for _Faces of Death,_ said that 40% of the movie is fake.

@darabennett4316

Жыл бұрын

There's another bad airshow crash that happened, I believe, in Germany , years after this one. In the 90s. It involved just one jet, but that one jet did some serious damage. You may know exactly what I'm talking about. But the video you see is from a crowd member, who happened to be filming at that exact moment. Most videos will show just clips of the aftermath, but some channels will show the whole entire chaos happening. Like body parts laying about, and well we'll just keep it at body parts. Anyways, was some bad shit.

@darabennett4316

Жыл бұрын

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 whaa?! Never did watch those, but I just always thought it was the real deal.

When you think about an airshow disaster, you usually only think about the aircrafts and pilots involved in the accident, and forget how spectators on the ground could be impacted if not a safe distance from the crash. 28 dead instanly, 70 total death toll, 500 requiring hospital treatment...I'd have never thought an air show accident could cause that sort of carnage. But in hindsight and all things considered, it's not unfathomable. All it takes is just the wrong timing, lack of safety precautions, and disorganized management for such casualties to occur.

@MrJest2

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't just there that conditions were sketchy on the ground; until this disaster it was very common during airshows both in Europe and in the US for the spectators to be positioned dangerously "close to the action", since it's sometimes difficult to see what aircraft performing are doing from a few thousand feet away (either horizontally or vertically). Ramstein changed all that, pretty much everywhere, which is why it's very rare now for any spectator to get injured even when accidents happen. The only example I can think of recently was when the P-51 crashed at the air races a few years back, but that was a true freak occurrence.

@Fireglo

Жыл бұрын

Don't tell me what I think. You're wrong.

What a timely topic. The Blue Angels were in town for an air show this weekend and did several passes over my place. The noise was unreal. I can’t imagine how loud a crash like this would be.

@ZGryphon

Жыл бұрын

I used to work in an office park that was about half a mile from Hanscom Air Force Base in Massachusetts. Once the USAF Thunderbirds were in town to perform at an air show at Hanscom, and on the Friday before the show weekend, they made a point of passing over the office park as low and loud as they could around midafternoon, to see how many car alarms they could set off. (Answer: All of them.)

@Kimberly-tj1fv

Жыл бұрын

They were in Portland Ore a few weeks ago. We live on the approach to PDX they were flying in the gorge. Very loud

@zac-oros

Жыл бұрын

Cleveland what up

@Firstfalconfree

Жыл бұрын

Love the Blue Angels. My mom delivered some of their kids, so we have some really cool pictures from them. The stuff they do is unreal. We live near an Air Force Base, so the sound of the jets is just background noise now. Even the jumpy ponies don't stop eating hay when a pair of jets fly over anymore. 😂 I enjoyed watching air shows as a kid, but I can't bring myself to go anymore. As a teenager, I went to an air show on Tyndall AFB (one of many that I'd attended there). When the jet swooped down low to "race" the jet engine equipped truck (a popular stunt I'd seen before), I saw the jet start to wobble, and try to pull up. I immediately had a bad feeling about the way it was moving. A breath later, the jet nosedived right into the ground and exploded. This was in the early 2000s, so spectators were all at a safe distance, and medical responded immediately, but the pilot was killed on impact. It was horrible.

@jamessimms415

Жыл бұрын

When the BA are back @ home station, they put on a ‘free show’, so to speak; for the beach goers on the coast. A few vids out there of then scattering pop up tents, etc….

I watched this happen from the Autobahn next to the runway. We were in a traffic jam, trying to get to the Air Base. We sat in total disbelief. I still hear the screams. Then decades later (2018) I was driving to my doc appointment and ended up seeing the Military plane crash on HW 21 (Savannah)in front of me. Luckily I was too far away both times to get injured. Still have nightmares about both events. I’ve been living in the Ramstein area for almost all my live and know several victims. They all say the same, accidents happen, but the response to the disaster was a disaster. No one expected this to happen, so they had to scramble to get medical personal, ambulances and helicopters ready to transport victims.

My family was there that day. They say I saved our lives because I said was thirsty, so we had to move from the spot we were going to watch from to get drinks. But I have no memory of it at all. I was five years old, so I don’t know if I just blocked out the traumatic memory or what. Watching this video was hard, and I ended up crying, so maybe deep down I do remember.

@warfieldcustoms

Жыл бұрын

I was there. I was 10 years old. My mother saved us. We were in area where the wreckage fell but had started to walk back to the cars a few moments before the planes hit. My Mother had a terrible feeling in her gut and told my father she thought it was dangerous because they were right over us and we could feel the heat and heavy gusts of wind when they flew over us.He was irritated but decided ok, and we slowly started to walk back, then we stopped and watched the Pierced Heart. When it happened we started to run, my mother dragging me while I in shock looked behind us at the fire and wreckage heading towards the ground. People screaming and crying. Many of them severely burned. We had a spot on the grass. The people we said hello to around us before we left were no longer there, only thing Remaining was fire and wreckage. Truly one of the most horrific experiences I have ever had. Afterwards we never spoke of it.

As some have already written, this incident seems to be connected to the Ustica plane crash. The ustica accident remains one of the most controversial and well-known in Italy. Another plane crash in Italy concerns Alitalia 112 (or the Longa mountain disaster). it was solved by blaming the pilots, but there is a lot of controversy over this case. Fifty years have passed and Italian TV never talks about it.

@emmepi4945

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the connection is related to the fact that both the Italian pilots that were scrambled on their fighter jets towards the Itavia flight (still for reasons not clear even after all this years) died in the Rammstein incident… i’m more prone to see it as a tragic coincidence, who knows…

@emmepi4945

Жыл бұрын

Comunque grazie per aver riportato anche del volo 112, è una storia che non conoscevo.

@underwaterdick

Жыл бұрын

@@emmepi4945 aviation history shows this to be a tragic coincidence, not a "connection". Many pilots survive one accident, only to be killed in another. It's a risk that they face every time they fly. The Actress Kristen Scott Thomas lost her father in a Royal Navy Sea Vixen crash, he was the member of a display team called "Simons Circus" (not a display accident btw). His wife then married another member of the team, who was later killed in a Royal Navy F4 Phantom. So she lost both her Father and Steo Father in flying accidents. Some strange connection? No, sad accidents in an extremely dangerous occupation.

@Z80Fan

Жыл бұрын

@@underwaterdick If you knew a bit more of the italian republic's history, you'll probably understand why people are suspicious about a simple "sad accident".

@underwaterdick

Жыл бұрын

@@Z80Fan maybe I would. I know very little of their history. I do however know a lot about aviation, flying and aircraft accidents. So my comment was based on the fact that many pilots experience multiple accidents surviving more than one maybe and being killed by another, and many families lose multiple family members to flying accidents.

This is the first time you've done a video that involves me (sort of). I was a student at Ramstein American High School at the time. My friends and I went to go and look at all of the military hardware and enjoy the flying displays. For us, this was a routine event that happened every year, no big deal... My dad wanted to see "Crocodile Dundee 2," so we left the airshow and headed to the theater in Landstuhl, meaning a really bad movie may have saved my life. When we left the theater we heard the loud bang and could see the smoke cloud from rising from the base. Clogged roads, helicopters everywhere. The next day was spent with phone calls from family in the States making sure we were OK. We were lucky that none of our family or friends were injured... unlike so many other. Again, I count very myself lucky.

@v-town1980

Жыл бұрын

What a tragedy...calling Crocodile Dundee 2 really bad!

I have seen several videos of the disaster at Ramstein Air Base. None have ever talked about the chaos and mismanagement of the rescue efforts. Thanks for bringing something new to the table.

@indahooddererste

Жыл бұрын

It is at least covered in the german wikipedia atricle. The biggest thread was a total 180° difference between the american and german system how to handle mass casualtie events and also uncompatible equipments.

My father was in the US Army reserves and his unit was stationed in Germany during the late 80s. They were staying at a base about an hour away from Rammstein when this happened. He remembers listening to the news about it on the radio with his army buddies and everyone being shocked. He and his buddies were already pretty on edge being stationed in Germany, since they were told that if the USSR decided to invade they'd basically be on the front lines. I can't imagine hearing about a disaster like this helped their nerves much.

@fritzfxx

Жыл бұрын

As someone who wasn't even born til '90, it never occurred to me how high stress euro military bases could be in the 80s.

@ticketyboo2456

Жыл бұрын

KanashimiBeast He must hang his head in shame thinking about his negligent comrades.

@SanneNC

Жыл бұрын

@@tatumergo3931 I'll have to ask him for more details, it's been a while since he told those stories so my memory is fuzzy on the specifics. He does have one interesting story about a trip he and some buddies took to East Berlin. My father won Soldier of the Month for his battalion (still has the plaque to prove it) and part of the prize was a guided tour of Berlin. He also made a habit of collecting souvenir pins from every city in Germany he visited. As a kid I remember him showing off this traditional Bavarian-style hat that was COVERED in different pins. So when he was in East Berlin he naturally went to pick up a pin as well. He remembers standing in line to buy the pin, and he was in between a German soldier and a Russian soldier. All three of them were in uniform and kept eyeing each other nervously. He says it was a surreal experience.

@v-town1980

Жыл бұрын

@@fritzfxx '90? That sucks.

Leaving the show to try to find a bathroom saved my life that day. Many of the casualties were in my unit. The aftermath was even more chaotic than described.

I was in the US Navy when this tragedy occurred and remember it well, but was unaware of how lack of clear communication had such a large effect. Although air show maneuvers have been moved a safer distance from the crowds of spectators, have rules changed to improve communications and is there a clear chain of command for a disaster response?

@saragreen4578

Жыл бұрын

9-11 caused heightened awareness of the need for disaster response training, not only on military bases, but for all first responders and hospital staves, at least in the western hemisphere.

@thefisherking78

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely. The DOD has done a great deal to formalize our emergency management methodology, and to do more engagement with local authorities to plan and exercise our response to major events requiring combined action. Establishing incident command with clear roles and responsibilities is critical. I say this as a 22-yr USAF officer who has been ANG for most of my career with multiple activations to support natural disasters plus COVID. It's always a bit chaotic at first but we're way better than we used to be.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

Жыл бұрын

Navy stint from '94 to '98 here... AND even my first cruise, there were MANY drills and op's involving efforts to work WITH local authorities around disasters and mass casualty events. They were also hell-bending to urge anyone with linguistic ability to take a test and try for jobs as "translator" for liaison offices all over Europe, just to have extra personnel to roust around for coordinating multiple agency operations. I even helped a couple guys get into and pass the testing for entry. It was a wide-open field in the 90's... AND it didn''t matter much what languages you could speak as long as you had decent English skills and at least passable for one or two others. ;o)

@tony.bickert

Жыл бұрын

The military has always been known for unclear chain of command and the resulting delays in responding.

One of the most famous desasters in Germany. I remember it well. Have you made a video about Loveparade, Duisburg in Germany? Or the very disturbing incident in Cologne/ Köln Volkenhofen, where a man killed children and teachers in an elementary school with a self constructed fire device? This world is a disturbing and threatening place :(

@larrychilders6599

Жыл бұрын

That last one is more Disturban's wheelhouse

@thefisherking78

Жыл бұрын

@@larrychilders6599 niiiiiiice

@vladimirenlow4388

Жыл бұрын

@@larrychilders6599 True. I notice that FH used to cover serial killers in the early days of his channel but long ago switched to accidents and human-origin disasters.

I was in the U.S. Air Force and was at the airshow when this happened. I was actually stationed at Spangdahlem Air Base, a bit northwest of Ramstein, and had driven down with a couple of friends to watch the airshow. We were going to leave soon after the crash happened. I didnt actually see the crash at the moment of impact, because I was getting a snack at one of the food stands, but I remember how quickly it all went to hell. -Mass chaos. People running everywhere, rumors flying, security police and fire converging on the area. We were told to leave the area, then told to stop leaving the area. The gates got locked down to the point that ambulances werent even allowed to enter the base. My squadron back at Spangdahlem knew we had went there, and we found out later that they initially thought we may have been among the dead (remember, these were the days before cell phones and email). The first thing I thought was that we'd had a mass bombing like what had happened at Rhein-Main Air Base about 3 years before. Sounds farfetched but IDGAF. - I was also in the Pentagon in 2001 when it got hit. You'd like to think situational awareness and preparedness improved in the span of time between these events, but it had just as much initial pandemonium. TBH, I think events like this always invoke initial confusion and reactive panic. Its just human nature. I retired from the Air Force after 24 years in 2006. My life is more boring now, and Im happy for it.

Sabotage was suspected because two of the pilots that died (Mario Naldini and Ivo Nutarelli) were key witnesses in the deadly Itavia flight 870 crash (Strage di Ustica), still unsolved

@RatusMax

Жыл бұрын

it was bad luck lol. They could have made the plane fail at any point. Even before the event.

@elennapointer701

Жыл бұрын

Seems unlikely. No saboteur could guarantee the outcome, plus they killed another pilot too, not to mention 62 innocent bystanders.

@velox__

Жыл бұрын

if you're gonna sabotage, why do it at an event with 300 000 potential witnesses... edit: my point being that any acusations of conspiracy are silly.

@Noname-xi7xi

Жыл бұрын

@@elennapointer701 I agree 100%, These are the theories that come out from some reporters who need to sell more copies of their magazines or some sentimental Air Force airmen that can't admit that they simply screwed up the manouver.

@Noname-xi7xi

Жыл бұрын

@@velox__ Correct, probably because the sabotage theory is just bullshit and nothing more.

I've been waiting for this one. I lived in a town nearby (Zweibrücken), and my dad was stationed at Ramstein when this happened. I wasn't there, but my best friend kept calling me every 5 minutes because her dad hadn't checked in (he was the fire chief) and she was freaking out. One of my other HS friends STILL has PTSD from being there that day. He says he can still smell the burning sometimes.

@schrbtschtaeter3367

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in Homburg/Saar, just a stone's throw from Zweibrücken, and my dad, a surgeon and burns specialist, was treating victims of this disaster at Lebach hospital.

@maryscott9430

Жыл бұрын

It was scary as hell. I can remember the sights, smells and sounds from there to this day

@robertjonas6216

Жыл бұрын

I was stationed at Zweibruecken a couple of months after this happened. One of my supervisors who was there that day had a video tape of the whole thing. A few months later, I went to a benefit concert at Ramstein that took my place in one of the hangers. Bon Jovi, Lita Ford and others performed.

I remember this disaster because I was a paramedic in training at the time. At that time in Germany we used a connection system for hypodermic needles and connecting hoses that was called "Rekord". The Americans used the "Luer" system. The systems are incompatible. A patient who received an infusion needle from an American and who needed another infusion after the first infusion bottle had been run through could not be treated by the German rescue service because the German infusion tube could not be connected to the American intravenous cannula. In a patient with shock symptoms, it was often not possible to get a new access because the circulation was so centralized that venipuncture was no longer possible. The problem was known beforehand for those who were interested. Both systems were shown during the training and it was explained that they do not go together. Theoretically, there were adapters from Luer to Rekord and vice versa. In practice, such adapters were never available where they were needed. There was no DIN/ISO standard for equipping rescue equipment. Everyone packed what they thought would be good. None of those responsible came up with the idea that during an operation it might be necessary to work with personnel who applied the other standard. It is unforgivable that the German cars with emergency doctors (NEF - Notarzteinsatzfahrzeuge) were not allowed onto the premises by the American guard. The American doctrine of transporting seriously injured people by bus instead of waiting for rescue helicopters was also unforgivable and certainly cost some lives.

I would have been about ten years old, living in the UK, when this happened. I do have a vague recollection that our favourite local air show was either cancelled or had no aerobatics in the year following.

Also reminds me of the 2011 Reno Air Races disaster 2011 was a rough year for disasters, really both natural and man made

@spiritmatter1553

Жыл бұрын

2011 was the year of Fukushima. ☢️🌊

I remember this day vividly. My Dad was part of the RAF UK Support unit stationed at Ramstein at the time. Our car broke down on the way back from a holiday in France the night before and we didn't get back to Landstuhl until the early hours of that morning, or my whole family would have gone to this air show as we had the year before. Sometimes what seems like misfortune can be the total opposite. Instead we slept in late and witnessed the aircraft do this manouvre with binoculars from a high rise balcony a couple of kilometers away. Then we saw the smoke rising above trees which blocked our view of the ground. The first we knew about what had happened was when our relatives started calling from the UK to check we were OK, as they had seen it on the news. Several high ranking officers in the RAF had warned the US station Commander beforehand that it was probably a bad idea to let the Italian pilots try this directly over the crowd, but they were overruled, with these horrendous consequences.

@thefisherking78

Жыл бұрын

Jeez. It seems almost every air disaster that becomes a textbook case in risk management (and the basis for a new rule) has some footnote about a commander overruling such objections.

@reverendjames9842

Жыл бұрын

@@thefisherking78 Really? I watched a lot of these vids in lockdown. Not sure why, but was wondering if this would be covered. Not a memory I wanted replayed, but count my lucky stars. Weirdly and this is absolutely true, my sister is now on tour with the band Rammstein as a lighting technician and the song with the same title they did is definitely about the catastrophe. Just translate the lyrics. Very odd I know.

My uncle was there. He was stationed at Ramstein for 25 years while he ran the America News Network for the Americans on base and nearby Kaiserslautern. It was literally chaos, poor folks

This popped up in my recommended out of nowhere after the tragedy at Dallas yesterday. Crazy timing.

Ignoring all of the bureaucracy and other protocol errors, this seems like another excellent if tragic example of why it's good to try to know at least the basics of the main language of whatever country you're in. I have to wonder how many of the dead besides those instantly killed might have lived if at least some of the American drivers could have asked for directions in German, especially that bus full of people that drove miles away for hours since I assume at least one of the people abroad the bus died. (I also have to wonder if I had heard of this disaster before like I'm decently sure I've heard of the air base, but given that I apparently can't see "Ramstein" without thinking of the band Rammstein, I will probably remain uncertain on that front. Oh well.)

@thefisherking78

Жыл бұрын

The band's name is derived from the name of the base and stems directly from this disaster, so if you're a fan, you've probably heard about this. Also, I'm seeing them tonight so this timing is awesome.

@nlwilson4892

Жыл бұрын

@@thefisherking78 So you searched for the band and found this video? Enjoy the gig!

@nlwilson4892

Жыл бұрын

I knew a British soldier who had been based in Germany for 15 years, never learnt the language at all. Another I knew was fluent.

@M85619

Жыл бұрын

@@nlwilson4892 thats pretty damn stubborn if not ignorant, 15 years in their country..no excuse, show some respect and learn a phrase or 2

@c.w.8200

Жыл бұрын

@@M85619 I agree that it's important to be able to communicate on a basic level but some people are just extremely bad at learning languages. I've lived abroad for years and people say they can barely understand my heavy accent while my husband loves nothing more than to make fun of me for it. I really envy people who are good at languages.

Just saw the Frecce Tricolori at the Airpower Airshow in Austria last weekend. Really sad that they can't come to germany anymore.

I always wonder why we change security measures only when people have died already. Isn't it common sense that aircraft should not perform risky maneuvers over an area that is full of people? How is it possible that nobody thought about this before?

@kgjung2310

Жыл бұрын

"Sir, don't you think it's dangerous to have these planes over a crowd of civilians? What if something happens?" "Sergeant, nothing like that will happen. Besides, having the plane fly over the crowd will please and amaze the spectators. It'll make for some cool photos."

@pmberry

Жыл бұрын

Hindsight makes everything obvious.

@jamessimms415

Жыл бұрын

Air regulations, rules written after accidents in other industries are written in the blood of the victims. Hard fact to swallow.

@hansvonmannschaft9062

Жыл бұрын

Airshow accidents go back to the early 1900's. May be like Nascar, where people go to see people explode in crashes. Who knows. Humanity missing the Colosseum, perhaps?

@majungasaurusaaaa

Жыл бұрын

The thing is if you're gonna go down the bubblewrap road you may as well cancel everything that is fun and exciting/profitable. Without accidents it's next to impossible to draw the appropriate line.

The real breakdown was having aircraft do dangerous stunts 100 feet above people. Criticize emergency logistics all you like, but that was the cause of injuries.

Tragedies like this are heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the scene that day.

10:30 I spent a bit of time on the base and I wish the memorials were more prominent. I found the one outside the base by accident due to Google Maps.. it's inside a grove of trees and doesn't have much signage. If I weren't biking to work daily I probably never would have been curious enough to find it.

Love how emergency contingency were the least of their concern until the disaster, they were NOT prepared for anything to go wrong,

@davidcox3076

Жыл бұрын

Hundreds of people in attendance. With aircraft flying just overhead. Mass casualty event? Nah, unlikely to happen.

I was living in Germany at the time and remember this. I also remember a photo of a man running back to pick up a small child. It turned out to be his child but it was still dramatic

I've been to several air shows when young. The possibility of becoming involved in a accident was always with me. Twice during different shows a aircraft crashed, but fortunately nowhere near a crowd. On both the pilots survived.

I recently had to do incident management training for my job and, man, this was like a perfect storm of "what not to do". Since my training was through FEMA, I like to believe that we learned a valuable lesson from this, but I also would rather that there was never a situation that necessitated proving that.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

Жыл бұрын

Part of disaster management is understanding that EVERY disaster or mass casualty situation starts out as a "total clusterf***" that needs sorted out. Lessons DO get learned every time, and refinements to operations and protocols happen over time. It's just an ongoing thing... AND by the nature of emergencies, you can't really out-plan a disaster. It's ALWAYS going to start out as a "total clusterf***" that needs sorted out. All you can really do is try to get better and more efficient about it every time. ;o)

@MrJest2

Жыл бұрын

As the saying goes, "Safety regulations are written in blood". I don't recall when the standardized Incident Command system was first created or started to get widespread adoption, but I was trained in it in the mid-to-late 90s at my company - long after I'd left the military, back around the time the Ramstein disaster occurred. I don't know for sure, but I don't think back then in the military we had anything like this standardized response setup.

@Karamarika

Жыл бұрын

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 unfortunately that's how we learn. You can't think of everything that could go wrong. There are so many moving parts. That's why it angers me that people get prosecuted in other countries for accidents. They aren't "on purposes." Unless there is some sort of obvious gross negligence involved, then no one should be going to prison over an accident.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

Жыл бұрын

@@Karamarika As Picard once told Data in "Star Trek The Next Generation"... "You can do everything right... answer every question and solve every problem... and it can still blow up in your face. That's not weakness. It's life." Most accidents, by their nature are NOT on purpose. They don't generally come at a predetermined rate or on a schedule. It's what makes them accidents... I ride a motorcycle, so I'm well aware. I have to work through a precarious balance between enough gear to protect me against most of the obvious hazard in case something goes wrong that I can't do anything about by skill alone... AND so much crap needlessly attached that I can no longer control the bike. You can't ride if you can't move and flex comfortably and relatively easily... BUT if it's not leather, you're GOING to burn on asphalt... let alone the "skid resistance time" quantified in seconds at given speed (usually 100 mph in the U.S.) AND yeah, it can suck when people are needlessly prosecuted over accidents... BUT after so many of these kinds of videos and as far back in history as these accidents have been documented, there does come some substance to a legitimate early conclusion "there's negligence until proven otherwise"... AND a part of our "learning process" also involves investigation. Done well (like the FAA and NTSB seems to do most of the time) it moves through a court and gets disseminated to legitimate findings and prescribed improvements... Sometimes, the police are the only qualified "investigators" available, to. They have their own system for doing things... Maybe THAT is where some kind of business or improvement can be applied... I'm not smart enough (yet) to have an answer for that... It sucks, and sometimes it's still "wrong" in some technical manner or other, but it's the best we've got to date... ;o)

I normally never comment on videos, but I have to here. Thank you so much Fascinating Horror for covering this case! I suggested it in February and I’m so thankful that you picked it up. I also have a personal connecting to the disaster. I live around 15 min from Ramstein and on that day, my parents wanted to go to the air show. It was always very special to the German people (American burgers and ice cream couldn’t be bought on every corner in the 80s in Germany). But their friends, who wanted to join them overslept, so my parents decided to go somewhere else. Because there were no cellphones in the 80s, everyone was worried sick about my parents! It must have been such a relief when they came home that night. Anyways, maybe I wouldn’t be here today if their friends woke up on time… crazy to think about it…

Thanks for reporting and describing the events without resorting to showing the horrible video. Anyone who wants to see it can surely find it. And those who may have never heard of the incident, or those who did but never knew the sad background, do not need to see the video to understand what happened. This is where skill at writing, editing, and narration can still tell the story just as well as showing it. Thank you.

@63electricmayhem

Жыл бұрын

I second this. I really appreciate being able to learn without having to see the actual footage.

@CovidConQuitTheCensorship

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. I don't like what has happened to this channel. I used to watch FOR the graphic content, then I think he was banned, reappeared but now obviously not the same. It's a shame

@CovidConQuitTheCensorship

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I was confusing this channel with horror stories. I would delete my comment they took that function away from me, along with editing

I think it is very helpful and good that they explain from the history of the military and bases before the accident, which is something not many other channels have. Every time I learn about this type of accident I think of the jet fuel, the speed, the horror of having no escape. In the case of this accident, however, the more I looked into it, the more I was stunned by the unbelievable facts that there was no proper coordination in terms of rescue. Even though it was 34 years ago, it is surprising.

I've seen like 5 different videos about this disaster from 5 different KZreadrs and television shows, but I never knew little details like how a plane hit a medevac helicopter and that they were selling ice cream. Just goes to show the top notch quality of this channel.

If civilization goes on another 1000 years, the world will be covered in memorials.

Yes,i know about this disaster. Just horrible. Every time i hear about this disaster i remeber another one,crash at air show in Lviv,Ukraine,in 2002...

Something that should also be mentioned is, that the plane crashing into the crowd also hit a barbed wire fence, that was in front of the spectators. So basically the crowd was hit by flaming hot barbed wire combined with the debris and gasoline.

I was an preteen/teen airshow fanatic in the '80s, so I remember reading everything I could find about this when it happened (which was admittedly not a lot in those days). I experienced the knock-on effects of the disaster myself the next year, when a show I was attending here in the US pushed the crowd so far back for safety in reaction to the Ramstein crash that we could barely see anything. It took airshow organizers a couple of years to figure out a reasonable balance. A few years before, in 1981, I had attended an open house at the AIr National Guard base in Bangor, Maine, and my parents cajoled me into taking the flightline walk before the show and getting all six Thunderbirds pilots' autographs on my program booklet. A few months later, four of the six were killed in a training crash. It's a dangerous business, doing stunts in high-performance aircraft.

This has been covered many times before but you did a great job covering the aftermath

1:08 flawless German you got there! Must have taken a while to get right. Such effort👍 Gut gemacht 🇩🇪

@mournblade1066

Жыл бұрын

Most German words should be fairly easy for native English speakers to pronounce, since English is a direct derivative of German. And the language rules of German--unlike English--are fairly straightforward. (English, by comparison, is a nightmare for many non-native speakers.) French--now THAT'S a language I could never speak without butchering it.

@SharkUsingaComputer

Жыл бұрын

@@mournblade1066 yup, german is very easy for native english speakers to learn. i think the only hurdles in learning german are absurdly long words/strings of consonants... looking at you *der Dschungel*.....

@FizzleFX

Жыл бұрын

@@mournblade1066 actually no. Many on yt have issues pronouncing words. A few key bits don't even exist in English. Like Umlauts. ÄÖÜ. or EI. Pronounced like the Y in My. Etc. Also German Gramma is a lot more difficult! I am German and yet I yearn for your rule set. Street names alone got a few pages worth of rules you learn at school. Its not as bad as Russian or Chinese or Latin but still nowhere near English. The one upside German got is that we can slap words together to create new ones. German is a very precise language. One word one meaning, for the most part. Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. One word. Grammatikalisch korrekt. Made up out of 6 words. You really can narrow stuff down like that... Oh well... Btw Avgn used German in DEADLY TOWERS. Pretty good too. still many butcher it and it's funny. South Park in particular often just uses German sounding noises. Hilarious! ... I for once enjoy listening to British accents. Oh and ofc we Germans may learn English in school. All of us. But most forget it just to butcher it years later. Ahha Try the song DENGLISCH by Wiseguys . Those have fun either way!

@mournblade1066

Жыл бұрын

@@FizzleFX I studied the German language for 5 and a half years in school. Granted, the verb tenses were difficult, but the pronunciation (including umlauts and what not) were fairly easy, BECAUSE the German language is so straight-forward. In other words, "EI" is ALWAYS pronounced like "III" in English, and "IE" is ALWAYS pronounced like "EEE." Yeah, we might not have the umlaut over the A, O, and U, but once we know how to pronounce them, it is always the same. Sure, German has sounds that aren't normally used in English, but my point is, their rules are very straight forward, and few (if any) exceptions. For example, "IE" and "EI" in English can be pronounced in several different ways, which makes spelling insanely difficult even for native English speakers.

@mournblade1066

Жыл бұрын

@@FizzleFX "German is a very precise language." That, mein Freund, is exactly why I say that German is easier to learn, BECAUSE it is precise. And that is why I love it! English is a total mess.

I really enjoy your video delivery. It’s clear, not boring and not drawn out. I get all the information I need in 10 minutes or so.

I appreciate your dedication to regular posting as well as your non-sensational way of covering the topics on your channel. It's very respectful to all involved.

Now please cover the loveparade desaster too. Germany has a lot of desasters that might not be known outside of its boundaries.

@serduncan6933

Жыл бұрын

I think this is true for every country. Huge local events are no more than a Sidenote in international News, If even that

@FM-hw8yv

Жыл бұрын

@@serduncan6933 Which is why I like this channel. He covers all desasters, no matter how big or small.

My family and I just watched a Blue Angels show at the Joint Base/AFB in Charleston, SC. It was stunning. This is so awful. 💔

I've been watching this channel for a few years now, and it's been really neat to see it climb up in subscriber count. Good luck to you @Fascinating Horror, looks like a million is on the horizon! You've earned the success!

Thank you for making a video on this! The footage from that day, and the interviews from survivors, are horrendous. Can’t imagine the psychological effects this incident must’ve had on everyone involved.

there was another problem, I remember. The american Paramedics used venous canulas which weren't compatible with ours. So the time they took to install the canulas were wasted, because they had to be removed again and new ones had to be put in. There was no triage, it was a messy load and go operation, which isn't how we do it in Germany...

@mikeblatzheim2797

Жыл бұрын

@@3338MAN One central qualified person of responsibility gets appointed for any incident, the so-called "Einsatzleiter". Their sole responsibility is to keep an overview of the situation, coordinate the rescue effort and handle internal as well as externally communications. Depending on the size of the incident there may be multiple people helping with this task, but the Einsatzleiter (almost) always has the final say. This includes incidents where multiple different organisations are active, which will defer to the already appointed incident manager (which happens as soon as the first rescuers arrive). In a case like the Rammstein Air Base crash such a person would've had the personnel set up a triage, coordinated the first aid efforts as well as the transport to and communication with hospitals nearby.

I saw the Frecce Tricolori at the EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, a few years before this accident. Their routine was absolutely amazing. The news of the crash was heartbreaking.

Awesome video with great in-depth content delivered on time like always. Fascinating Horror is one of the best channels of all time

I've commented this before, but I'd love to see you cover the Frank Slide, or the partial collapse of Turtle mountain here in Alberta in the early hours of 1903. It killed more than 90 people and the rocks still surround the highway. It's eerie to drive through, especially knowing that there are still bodies and houses under the rubble (though thoroughly pulverised; nothing would truly remain). The witness accounts are freaky to read, and someone had to sprint down the tracks to stop a CPR train from running into the rocks. There are several factors that played into the collapse, and they range from weak geologic formation (the Indigenous of the area considered the mountain dangerous, and called it "the mountain that walks"), to mining, to odd weather patterns. In fact, the mountain is still under observation because it still holds the potential of another partial collapse.

Tragedies like this really annoy me because so many innocent lives were lost due to the negligence of people "supposedly" educated and trained in safety protocol. Makes you not want to trust these individuals at all.

Gods I love Thursdays! An awesome vid to watch before work! Start my day off right~💕💕💕 Thank you for such grand work, remember that you are loved and valued

@ImmortalTreknique

Жыл бұрын

It's Tuesday. Check you are meant to be at work today.👊

@Zipzap1313

Жыл бұрын

@@ImmortalTreknique Thankfully I'm off this Tuesday ~💕💕💕

A great retelling of this horrific event. Mr. Fascinating is exactly that!!

You're so damn good at this my dude, every single video is interesting and in depth. One of my absolute favorites!

I've only briefly learned little to no detail about this incident and it drives me crazy since it's the name of my favorite band haha thanks so much for another banger video!

@user-cs8pb5mi7n

Жыл бұрын

Band is named after this incident

@fsujavi16

Жыл бұрын

There’s some horrible in person footage of it. I remember one that showed an engine rollling through the crowd. awful

Good Tuesday morning everyone.

@ImmortalTreknique

Жыл бұрын

Right back at you my good man 👊🍻

@CheleAne

Жыл бұрын

Good morning!!!!!❤️

@gracewsho

Жыл бұрын

Good morning Sean

I was listening to (the band) Rammstein today who got their name from this disaster. The song they have of the same name is about the Ramstein airshow too, it's super dark.

Nothing makes my morning like waking up to a new Fascinating Horror video. I didn't realize it until just now but this is easily my favorite channel on youtube.

Some disasters are caused by a series of bad events. Others are caused by a lack of imagination. It was totally conceivable that a midair crash could occur, but the military and civilian forces in the area never went through the thought exercise of what that worst-case-scenario would be like and how complicated it’d be. As a result, many more died unnecessarily. Scary to think of.

@ecm84ee

Жыл бұрын

I don't think imagination is quite the right word for that....

@tanler7953

Жыл бұрын

By design? Perhaps there was some tension between American and German authorities and discussions were avoided that weren't considered absolutely necessary.

@runlarryrun77

Жыл бұрын

"It'll be ok", but it wasn't ok, in fact about the worst possible thing that could have happened did happen. A short anatomy of too many disasters.

@ruthgar9753

Жыл бұрын

It was another 'Titanic' situation. I bet there were people, junior officers that did think about the worse case scenarios, and tried to bring their ideas to the senior officers but just like 'Mr. Andrews wanting all of the lifeboats he had designed Titanic to hold', those junior officers were brushed off by the seniors saying that nothing serious will go wrong, and anything that happens we can handle. But just like the 'Titanic', the airshow had its' own 'Iceberg' show up.

Closing in on a million subs! Way to go, “Mr. Crow”!

I don't often leave comments, but I wanted to thank you for uploading your videos with subtitles!

You do such a great job with these videos. Even if the subject matter is not to my taste, I still watch them as they are so well done. Thank you.

It’s like the Le Mans crash but in the air.

I’ve worked as a civilian paramedic and an army flight medic. I can see where the German paramedics got angry but in all likelihood the army medics had minimal training and minimal equipment. At that point a casevac isn’t the worst option provided you can get them to a higher standard of care (and that station isn’t over whelmed) . Goes back to that saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Once you have 500+ casualties the horse is out of the barn.

Oh my gosh! Did you read my comment about this!? Amazing video as always. Informative and respectful as always.

Thank you for another comprehensive story -- you are the best! When I hear that music, I know it's time to strap in...

You really have a great voice to tell us about these disasters. It's very comfortable hearing you talk. Great quality content and always well-made. Thank you!

I was there. We were close to the front. My dad jumped on me and my mom to sheild us from debris and screaming people. Then my mom and dad started helping the wounded. It was so scary!!

Almost at that 1milli mark bro !! Keep up the fantastic content we enjoy ! 👍🏼👑

I love this channel. I love watching on my way to work.

Communication! The most important factor in managing any disaster. And they failed at it more then you can fail...

I used to live there and went to the airshow 81 and 82. It was HUGE!!! I was 8 and 9 y/o and it was exciting and terrifying sometimes. In 88 I had a dream of the airshow and relived how it was but I was extra terrified in the dream. When I woke up I walked into the living room and my mom tells me about the accident. I've had other dreams and that foretold of things. I don't consider myself psychic.

Another fascinating episode, thankyou. I can't help but wonder how many deaths were a result of delayed treatment, shows just how important communication and navigation is.

Thank you for covering this.

This has always haunted my partner and her family a bit. Her mother was actually really close to the pilots who went up and was there when it happened, and to this day still blames herself for not being able to do more to prevent their deaths.

@mph1ish

8 ай бұрын

What could she possibly have done??

@doggylover108

4 ай бұрын

This doesn’t make any sense.

"Sorry, you don't have permission to save people from that massive, horrific explosion." Military intelligence at its finest, folks.

I CAN REMEMBER THIS DISASTER WHEN IT HAPPENED BUT I HAVE LEARNED LOT'S OF NEW INFO I DIDN'T GET FROM THE NEWS CHANNELS BACK IN THE DAY FROM THIS VERY EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO ! ! !

Excellent as ever! Thank you so much!

This is a huge violation of how international groups are suppose to act in an emergency situation in non-wartime or battle field areas. The fact that American Military where stopping German Medical personnel from entering the base, or that no American Medics appeared to be on the scene in an American Airfield, and so on should have resulted in a shit storm of inquiries by both the American and German governments, and even some court marshals and tribunal cases being brought against the American Military authorities at the Base.

Looking forward to another interesting video

I appreciated this short documentary on the incident. Every couple years, I look for videos about this as it was so incredibly tragic and something I don't think I'll ever forget. I also scroll through the comments to see if there are others that ended up missing the airshow due to some unforseen circumstances. My dad was actually working on the base that day and my mom was suppose to drive us (my sister and I) into the base and airshow to meet up with my Dad for the afternoon. We got out to our car and it would not start... nothing, just would not turn over. After 10 mins my mother gave up and we went inside to call my Dad and let him know we wouldn't make it. Now if you know my Dad, he is meticulous about car maintenance. There was no mechanical issue that should have prevented it starting. That night when he got home late, having to help with the injured and clean up, he went down to check the car and it started right up and never had a mechanical issue in the remaining time we owned it. Its completely unexplainable and I don't even know if we would have been anywhere near the crash had we made it in but there were definitely other forces at work that day!

Thank you for yet another excellent video. ❤️

May I suggest the Roland Mill explosion in 1979 as a topic? One of the greatest ones in peacetime, causing the death of 14 people with hundreds wounded. Many of the helpers suffered from inhalation of microparticles, including my great-uncle, who succumbed to the exposure 15 years later

@CoraBuhlert

Жыл бұрын

Seconding this. I'm from Bremen and this disaster is etched into my memory. I remember driving past the mill with my parents a few days after the explosion and how the entire area was covered in flour dust, which looked like fine snow. For a long time, I was very nervous whenever I had to drive past the Roland Mill. My sympathies on the loss of your great-uncle BTW.