The Qur'an Keeps Changing! - The Topkapi Manuscript - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 32

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Islam would claim that the Topkapi Quranic manuscript is a complete collection of the Qur’an and the most similar to the Qur’an we know today, but these claims are simply not true. The 8th-century Topkapi manuscript is different from today’s Qur’an in thousands of ways. Why is this important? Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay compare today's version of the Qur’an versus the Topkapi Qur’an proving the fluid nature of the Quranic text through the centuries.
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  • @fredflintstone6394
    @fredflintstone63946 ай бұрын

    Been telling people this for years. Ever since Muhammeds Nephew took the Writings and threw away the ones he didn't like.. there have been many changes to the Quran

  • @indrajyotidutt5873

    @indrajyotidutt5873

    6 ай бұрын

    And he wasn't even a witness to the revelation, remember? So either the sahabas lied to him or, as said by you, he himself edited it.

  • @AtheistReligionIsCancer

    @AtheistReligionIsCancer

    6 ай бұрын

    That was before aisha changed it and added to it and before the Holy Tame Sheep ate of queer'an?

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    Dumb claim

  • @Maynard-il1yj

    @Maynard-il1yj

    6 ай бұрын

    @@indrajyotidutt5873was anyone when it was written?

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@AtheistReligionIsCancer ...................... Anything latest is reliable, accurate and the best.

  • @hdl135605
    @hdl1356056 ай бұрын

    The Quran keeps changing because Allah can not make up his mind. Period.

  • @christopherloh936

    @christopherloh936

    6 ай бұрын

    Your comment 😂😂😂

  • @doloman77

    @doloman77

    6 ай бұрын

    He changes based on how the writer feels that day

  • @kesilame2590

    @kesilame2590

    6 ай бұрын

    allahu snackbar!

  • @aku7598

    @aku7598

    6 ай бұрын

    Christian god, too changing his mind. He created man as normal ones. Then he realised he created man with sin, then he created Chrst to be saviour.

  • @secilrods5170

    @secilrods5170

    6 ай бұрын

    take beer allahwho? cucumber

  • @123dsj123
    @123dsj1236 ай бұрын

    We thank and praise God for Al Fadi’s involvement in these SIN findings. He is an educated native-born Arabic language speaker who shuts down any criticism from Muslims about how no one on these programs speaks and understand the Arabic language.

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    Al Fadi believes in three gods. He is scared to engage with Muslims. A child wil school him. That’s why he only appears on fully controlled platforms to avoid being challenged. Only fools take an anonymous internet clown as an authority. His followers are dumb sheep.

  • @Din.muttahh

    @Din.muttahh

    6 ай бұрын

    I wanted to comment how fadi fooled English speaking people for claiming that he knows Arabic and people think he is genius now I found you and laughed 😂 What a fool

  • @sonnyloffy8804

    @sonnyloffy8804

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Din.muttahhIslam apologists will never get it. Their brains been wired a certain way and it will only take divine intervention to make them see the true light

  • @kb4432

    @kb4432

    6 ай бұрын

    He's a Coptic with zero knowledge. Basically your riding a donkey instead of a horse 😂🤣

  • @AtheistReligionIsCancer

    @AtheistReligionIsCancer

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Din.muttahh ....except when ibn ketchup boy farogue steals your wife, like flaming homosexual mupedohammad did with his adopted sons wife, LOL

  • @kimkurbitz8503
    @kimkurbitz85036 ай бұрын

    Shalom CIRA International. Bless you abundantly for all the exposing these. Thank you!

  • @zendon4010
    @zendon40106 ай бұрын

    Aiisha had reported that a goat (PBUH) had entered the tent when she was busy and ate up some parchments which had quranic verses that had been kept in the open inside the tent. So much for allah being able to preserve the quran and the poor goat (PBUH) probably suffered from acute indigestion.

  • @albertgallegos9938

    @albertgallegos9938

    6 ай бұрын

    ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION It was narrated that Aishah said: "The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it." Sunan Ibn Majah 1944

  • @albertgallegos9938

    @albertgallegos9938

    6 ай бұрын

    ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION "Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt." Sahih al-Bukhari 4987 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION Umar said, "Ubayy was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur'an), yet we leave some of what he recites." Ubayy says, "I have taken it from the mouth of Allah's Messenger and will not leave it for anything whatever." Sahih al-Bukhari 5005 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION Umar said, "Ubayy was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur'an), yet we leave some of what he recites." Ubayy says, "I have taken it from the mouth of Allah's Messenger and will not leave it for anything whatever." Sahih al-Bukhari 5005 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION ...We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Baraat. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust." And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it... Sahih Muslim 2286 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION [Ibn Umar said]: "Let none of you say, 'I have learned the whole of the Koran,' for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, 'I have learned what remains thereof." Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada'il-al-Quran ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION It was narrated that Aishah said: "The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it." Sunan Ibn Majah 1944

  • @MustardSkaven

    @MustardSkaven

    6 ай бұрын

    Aisha was a child and Muhammad the goat had his way with her.@@albertgallegos9938

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    Muslims now claims that : "Quran is Perfectly Preserved with All Whole Full mistakes, errors, changes, erasures, additions, contradictions, corruptions and distortions. " ✋👌👍

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-om7ik6yv1w ........................ Really? Which book do you think is preserved? Your book? Our book? -11-30-23

  • @damyankuzmic5605
    @damyankuzmic56056 ай бұрын

    Kquran is Perfectly Preserved with All Whole Full mistakes errors contradictions corruptions distortions. ✋👌👍

  • @kb4432

    @kb4432

    6 ай бұрын

    Nothing in the Bible can compare to the Qur'an. "O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may get to know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware."

  • @kb4432

    @kb4432

    6 ай бұрын

    The 'Holy' Bible: "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives raped." - Bible : Isaiah (13) : 16.

  • @barryshaw5957

    @barryshaw5957

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@kb4432 - Upon the ground, or against the wall, as was foretold should be, ( Psalms 137:8 Psalms 137:9 ) and in way of retaliation for what they did to the Jews, ( 2 Chronicles 36:17 ) and this was to be done "before their eyes", in the sight of the inhabitants, which must make it the more distressing and afflicting; and, as Kimchi observes, this phrase is to be applied to the following clauses: their houses shall be spoiled; plundered of the substance, wealth, and riches in them, by the Persian soldiers: and their wives ravished; by the same, and both before their eyes, and after that slain, in like manner as they had ravished the women in Zion, ( Lamentations 5:11 ) .

  • @barryshaw5957

    @barryshaw5957

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kb4432 The Satanic verses right enough.

  • @JTST1234

    @JTST1234

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kb4432 Psalm 23 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures: He leads me beside quiet waters. He restores my soul; He guides me in the paths of righteousness For His name’s sake. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; You have anointed my head with oil; My cup overflows. Surely goodness and lovingkindness will follow me all the days of my life, And I will dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

  • @utoothheartyeight
    @utoothheartyeight6 ай бұрын

    Every time you receive a FAX, you read the "top copy" first.

  • @inkyfingers3447

    @inkyfingers3447

    6 ай бұрын

    😂.

  • @tannygodisbeautiful9690
    @tannygodisbeautiful96906 ай бұрын

    THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE NOTICING THIS

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    There are many errors in this video. Check out my reply to this video posted elsewhere.

  • @Realivangarcia

    @Realivangarcia

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604Bro Islam is such an obvious false religion. Don’t waste your time defending this crap.

  • @binhanh296

    @binhanh296

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@alfiras8604never believe one word from someone who has the name "The Best Deceiver" and anyone who worship him.

  • @okko7988
    @okko79886 ай бұрын

    YOUR VIDEO HELPED ME TO PROPERLY USE QURAN IN MY RESTROOM 😂😂

  • @jeanetteraichel8299

    @jeanetteraichel8299

    6 ай бұрын

    Great to line a letterbox or bird cage.

  • @silvesan9162

    @silvesan9162

    6 ай бұрын

    Shredded pages are good fire starters and excellent worm food in the composter.

  • @watery7019

    @watery7019

    6 ай бұрын

    You can also wipe your a** with it in the time of needs

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    Christians are dirty. They don’t wash themselves with water after going to the restroom. They use paper. How disgusting you people are. Do you wash your hands also without water and only paper?

  • @Tribal_Dad

    @Tribal_Dad

    6 ай бұрын

    That is where it belongs. Fact.

  • @SABONGPhilippines07
    @SABONGPhilippines076 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂 🇵🇭 here in the Philippines... One of my Muslim friend he allow me to read their own quran 🧐🧐🧐 ( I'm a catholic ) i noticed that many words ( has been changes ) like a FAMOUS words FIGHT all CHRISTIAN and JEWISH until the judgement... ( Order to all Muslim ) Ph version 🇵🇭 Find all CHRISTIAN and JEWISH until the judgement that and tell them about the messenger of allah (they literally change and add some words)😅

  • @kardusbox6430

    @kardusbox6430

    6 ай бұрын

    It's kill 😂

  • @lakibody

    @lakibody

    6 ай бұрын

    And these muslims go to christian countries. But in their book living beside the unbeleivers (jews,christians,) and take them as your savior or friends, you are considered kuffar, munafiq(Filthy creatures worst than dogs).And they say islam is the relegion of peace😂

  • @lakibody

    @lakibody

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kardusbox6430 I heard they considered themselves as most moral relegion in all of the world,yet in their books they have the 5 pillars of mutah and the halal relief using goat and watermelon. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @valkyrie3493

    @valkyrie3493

    6 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @kb4432

    @kb4432

    6 ай бұрын

    When the Spanish colonialists arrived in the Philippines, they found it's people to be Muslims. Eventually the armies of Spain and then America defeated and forcefully converted the people to Catholicism. The only pinoy Muslims who survived were in Mindanao. That's where you find all the ancient languages of the Philippines.

  • @Kawitamamayi
    @Kawitamamayi6 ай бұрын

    Than you for publishing this video.

  • @samuelflores1419
    @samuelflores14196 ай бұрын

    The Holes are getting Bigger and Bigger! Soon there won't be enough LIES to cover them all! God bless you both and your ministry! To God be All the Glory!

  • @indrajyotidutt5873

    @indrajyotidutt5873

    6 ай бұрын

    Amen.

  • @josephchandra97
    @josephchandra976 ай бұрын

    Br.Al Fadi is a precious treasure saved by our Lord Jesus Christ. His mother tongue is Arabic and he knows what he is talking about. God bless you Brother and your ministry for the LORD Jesus the only Truth 🙏, Way and Life. Dr.Jay Smith is an erudite scholar of Islamic studies and a fearless Christian ✝️ missionary who has risked his life to preach Christ in foreign countries.

  • @aaronmusa234

    @aaronmusa234

    6 ай бұрын

    al fadi. aka. yitzak goldstein. the arab headress was a nice touch but the truth is out

  • @alexandernorman5337
    @alexandernorman53376 ай бұрын

    The quran is a book of changes, erasures, and additions that have been perfectly preserved. ;)

  • @pietbokvanrensburg8131
    @pietbokvanrensburg81316 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. 🔥

  • @sebastiangill1447
    @sebastiangill14476 ай бұрын

    We love you guys for keeping us updated Thanks

  • @ganteng_ini_menyiksa
    @ganteng_ini_menyiksa6 ай бұрын

    The modern era has brought the problem to the Muslim's claim that Quran is the same all over the world. Quran should face the scrutiny of textual criticism just like Bible has been going through for centuries.

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    Muslims don’t rely on text. Christians rely on written texts. It’s your problem. It’s not our problem. Your methodology is text. When we show the problems in manuscript transmission. You try to divert with silly whataboutism based on fallacies. You are very dishonest people.

  • @battleofwarlords1167

    @battleofwarlords1167

    6 ай бұрын

    Quran is worst... Most garbage... From kill, then change to fight.. then change to Find..

  • @alexandernorman5337

    @alexandernorman5337

    6 ай бұрын

    It's happening.

  • @puraLusa

    @puraLusa

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@alexandernorman5337it's happening but this is being censored to the majority of muslims, meanwhile bible criticism was done with christians observing and participating - makes a hell of a difference in cultural terms. U can even say that bible criticism happened withing christian comunity 1st with the devisions between ortodox and catholic and latter the protestants, meanwhile the mulema was lobbying the ottomans to ban the printing press, something that would give regular muslims much more acess to reading, writing and the quran.

  • @secilrods5170

    @secilrods5170

    6 ай бұрын

    quran has proved that it cant withstand true criticism , allah and quran need the help of muslim to stop criticizing islam

  • @rockzalt
    @rockzalt6 ай бұрын

    The Caliph, governor or important person who paid for the construction of the Topkapi without the corrections and insertions must either have hired scribes that disagreed with a hypothetical Uthman's standardized text or the text was not standardized until the 20th century. Funny how Allah preserved those words in such a grandiose book but no complete copies of Uthman's made it to our time.

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    All hand-written copies of that size are bound to have errors. As the text gets recited by later people, they notice these errors and correct them. But the actual number of corrections in this manuscript is very few. Brubaker claims that he noted 25 instances of correction. I think there's slightly more. A few of them are simply concerning spelling variations, others are clear scribal errors. But let's get one thing clear: neither Brubaker, nor anyone with even a bit of familiarity with manuscripts or the history of the Quran would argue that the Quran was standardized in the 20th century. There are manuscripts far more ancient than that and follow the consonantal skeleton of today's text.

  • @alexandernorman5337

    @alexandernorman5337

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604 "As the text gets recited by later people, they notice these errors and correct them." And how did they know that the Topkapi had errors and the recitals they had heard didn't?" Answer - it is impossible for them to know that for sure. And so we see that the modern quran is *a man-made book* and not one handed down from God. And nor was it preserved letter for letter by God.

  • @rockzalt

    @rockzalt

    6 ай бұрын

    To be clear. Historically the1924 Huffs became the standard Quran. Was there a standard Quran before 1924? No. To inject the academic discussion with all its' minutia of details into the standardization process is not seeing the forest for the trees. It's similar to saying, "But the Trinity!!!" as a counter point. Irrelevant. Regardless of the grammar confusion contained in the Quran and the numerous finer points found in academia, the historical events show Huffs becoming the standard in the 20th century. @@alfiras8604

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@alexandernorman5337 Even at the time when the manuscript was produced, there are multiple contemporary manuscripts that have today's reading. So they could easily know what's right and what's wrong.

  • @alexandernorman5337

    @alexandernorman5337

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604 Which historical quran perfectly matches the Hafs of today? None of them do. So what you claim to be "easily" done is anything but. They're all different. Nobody would have thus known the correct one.

  • @Mystie01
    @Mystie016 ай бұрын

    Yet we're told it was 'the perfect word' and so it could never be changed or updated.

  • @ConservativeArabNet
    @ConservativeArabNet6 ай бұрын

    Amazing research

  • @saidmeku707

    @saidmeku707

    Ай бұрын

    Amazing fake research. They have been given a challenge since back then and up to now no one in the entire universe has ever done it, trying to deter people from the straight path with misquoting and misrepresentations; Quran 17:88:"Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If ˹all˺ humans and jinn were to come together to produce the equivalent of this Quran, they could not produce its equal, no matter how they supported each other.”" Quran 11:13:"Or do they say, “He1 has fabricated this ˹Quran˺!”? Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Produce ten fabricated sûrahs like it and seek help from whoever you can-other than Allah-if what you say is true!”" Quran 2:23:"And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed to Our servant,1 then produce a sûrah like it and call your helpers other than Allah, if what you say is true." Quran 10:38:"Or do they claim, “He1 made it up!”? Tell them ˹O Prophet˺, “Produce one sûrah like it then, and seek help from whoever you can-other than Allah-if what you say is true!”"

  • @heneverreturnasahorse9773
    @heneverreturnasahorse97736 ай бұрын

    Of course it keeps changing, it isn't from our true, living God.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    Is it not true dead god?

  • @mysotiras21
    @mysotiras216 ай бұрын

    When will Muslims learn? Western scholars will investigate every extravagant claim Muslims make for Islam, using facts and logic. Thus far, none of the extravagant claims has held up under scrutiny. There is zero evidence that the Qur'an has been perfectly preserved, but a mountain of data indicating that it has not. The Topkapi is not an original Uthmanic copy, nor is it identical to the modern Hafs version. Great video.

  • @YannayerAytMazighen

    @YannayerAytMazighen

    6 ай бұрын

    95% are illiterate and 4% cant get full access to this information esp in their languages only the 1% and i m one of them

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    Learned Muslims (about 20-30%), now understands that Islam is a fraudulent movement that Muhammad and his friends conspired to rob, kill and capture women in the nearby tribes.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @mysotiras ..................... When will you learn that there is not single revelation from God in the Bible, hence, not a single word of God can be found in it? -12-14-23

  • @mysotiras21

    @mysotiras21

    6 ай бұрын

    @@defenderoftruth3212 , LOL!!! Thanks for CONTRADICTING the Qur'an, which plainly states that the Torah and Gospel come from God. Moreover, there are MANY words of the TRUE God, Yahweh, in the Bible. You simply haven't read the Bible. BTW, there are NO words of God in the asinine Qur'an. The Qur'an is a CESSPOOL of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, and plagiarized materials. When Muslims claim that God wrote the Qur'an, they are INSULTING God.

  • @marlinkhoshababratdeel2250
    @marlinkhoshababratdeel22506 ай бұрын

    ‏ The man script of Qur’an is in Syriac language they were trying to share the holy Bible and The daily reading prayers From The Church to Arab dialect what it means in Syriac Aramaic Assyrian language to make it easier for them to read it in Arabic dialect so we called it Karshonee كرشوني sketch of the words ( greeshah ) .

  • @danjumadogonyaro1759
    @danjumadogonyaro17596 ай бұрын

    The muslims continue to tone down the language of the translated versions of the Quran in order to appeal to new converts.

  • @mtaylor3771
    @mtaylor37716 ай бұрын

    “Ohhhh, the Quran is so amazing, it’s a linguistic miracle! Nobody can make a Quran!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @anthonyparak3507

    @anthonyparak3507

    6 ай бұрын

    No waste of time..get real YESHUA is the God of lslam Jews n christians .. I say again.. Yeshua Messiah!

  • @probalyyacci8793

    @probalyyacci8793

    6 ай бұрын

    So try to make something like quraan if you can!

  • @HectorAcevedo-il9nw

    @HectorAcevedo-il9nw

    6 ай бұрын

    Satanic inspired with an ultimate purpose-total genocide and damnation of Gods sacred creation. Mean while Jesus teaches Love and compassion and because of that they kill him and his followers for spreading Love, hope and eternal life in paradise-pretty sad and ironic.

  • @anthonyparak3507

    @anthonyparak3507

    6 ай бұрын

    @@probalyyacci8793 we feel real, n satisfied when we publish literary work s like a scientific theory or laws or thesis for an academic degree..based on facts...qoran is not in this class..it's one man's crusade brain washing intelligent people like your self.. sorry will not buy into Islam Koran or Muhammad. no thanks

  • @Devils_Advocate_Extravalue

    @Devils_Advocate_Extravalue

    6 ай бұрын

    @@probalyyacci8793 *Joseph Smith did with Book of Mormon* Quran is about 600 pages & The Book Mormon has about 779 pages...so it can be done. Are they true...not a chance.

  • @truthaboutislam2024
    @truthaboutislam20246 ай бұрын

    (Muslims left the chat).

  • @arnorinogatao7678
    @arnorinogatao76786 ай бұрын

    Know the truth and the truth will set you free...

  • @voiceofreason9258
    @voiceofreason92582 ай бұрын

    @CIRA International - Just a question... what happened to episode 33? It seems to be missing.

  • @danielanthony8373
    @danielanthony83736 ай бұрын

    Allah is the Greatest of Deceivers !!!

  • @TheMyFour

    @TheMyFour

    6 ай бұрын

    ignorant

  • @WalterKluwers
    @WalterKluwers6 ай бұрын

    Any muslim want to refute this video? I am guessing no, cos clearly the words of Allah can be changed by Man (or sheep for the matter)

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, sure. I have challenged the claims made in this video in my reply to this video.

  • @WalterKluwers

    @WalterKluwers

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604 The claim is there are many Quranic manuscript variants. And clearly there is as you mentioned yourself The 2270 differences mentioned are spelling variations. A spelling variant is still a variant cos Allah is supposed to protect every word in the Quran. Is it not? " The others are scribal errors, and if you turn to other (often earlier) manuscripts, you get the standard reading." That means the scribes are not protected from errors when they translate? Which are the earlier manuscripts you talk about?

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@WalterKluwersDid Allah say he was going to prevent reforms in the Arabic spelling conventions? Or did he say he was going to preserve his text from being manipulated and/or interpolations? Spelling variations are well discussed in Muslim literature. Let's not pretend that Muslims would find spelling variations problematic to the preservation of the Qur'an itself. More importantly, let's not pretend that Jay Smith and co. are referring to spelling variations when they mis-quoted Altikulaç.

  • @WalterKluwers

    @WalterKluwers

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604 The fact is human can change the Quran and Saudi Arabia is changing the text even now

  • @WalterKluwers

    @WalterKluwers

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604 Are you 100 percent sure the spelling variant will not change the meaning of the text? Are you a scholar? A change in spelling can result in a different meaning of a word. for example Pray/prey in english I am sure in arabic there are such words.

  • @bankubanga789
    @bankubanga7896 ай бұрын

    Wow thank you so much for all the work u guys do!!

  • @CalmAndFocus1566
    @CalmAndFocus15666 ай бұрын

    VERY TRUE... KEEP ON CHANGING

  • @mysteriesmadeknown2874
    @mysteriesmadeknown28746 ай бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    What was the Council of Nicea? As the early church was flourishing, many doctrinal disputes rose up and caused conflict within the church. In AD 325, the Roman Emperor Caesar Flavius Constantine felt compelled to resolve these conflicts, so he called a council of church leaders or elders at Nicea, which is a town located in Asia Minor, near Constantinople. The purpose of the Council of Nicea was to eliminate confusion and conflict within the church over certain doctrines. One of the main doctrines in dispute was the nature of Jesus Christ. Within the church at that time there were several questions as to Christ's deity. Is He more divine or more human? Was Jesus begotten or created? What does that mean? Is He equal to God the Father, or lower in status? Another question was about the Trinity. What is the Trinity? Is the Father the one true God, or are the Spirit, Jesus Christ and the Father the one true God together somehow? The Council of Nicea decided the answers to these questions based on the biblical teachings. A priest called Arius argued that Jesus Christ was not an eternal being, but that instead He was created by the Father at a point in time. Other bishops, notably Alexander and a deacon called Athanasius, argued the opposite: Jesus is eternal, and was with the Father "in the beginning" and was the agent by which all things were created (John 1:1-5). *Constantine told them to decide the issue by a majority vote. Three hundred bishops were included in the council, and the decision was (by an overwhelming majority) that Jesus Christ is indeed God, based on what is found in Scripture. Their decision and statement of faith became a guidepost for Christianity, called the "Nicene Creed".* The deity and consequent eternality of Christ is found throughout Scripture. In the gospels, we find Jesus claiming to be equal with God by calling himself "I AM" (John 8:58). The Pharisees clearly understood His meaning-they tried to stone him (for blaspheming) (John 8:59). The Apostle Paul said that "in [Christ] the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily" and by that he meant Christ is God (Colossians 2:9; 1:19). Jesus is the One to whom we pray for salvation (Romans 10:9-13; Joel 2:32); He is God overall (Romans 9:5); He is our God and Savior (Titus 2:13); and although the worship of angels is forbidden, we are commanded to worship Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:18-19; Revelation 22:8-9). Furthermore, Colossians 1:15-20 says, "He [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created … all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. … He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross." There is no doubt, biblically, that Jesus Christ and God the Father (Yeshua and Yahweh) are One. At the Council of Nicea, this truth was publicly acknowledged as church doctrine, and Arius' argument was deemed a heresy.

  • @albertgallegos9938

    @albertgallegos9938

    6 ай бұрын

    Very nice research 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @puraLusa

    @puraLusa

    6 ай бұрын

    Deflecting to the bible is a sign of weakness and conceiving defeat, plus false equivalence which makes it intelectual dishonesty. This coming from an atheist 😂

  • @mysotiras21

    @mysotiras21

    6 ай бұрын

    OFF TOPIC SPAM. The subject of this video is the QURAN, nothing else. If you want to discuss the Council of Nicaea, go to a channel where that is the focus.

  • @winthropbaker5494
    @winthropbaker54946 ай бұрын

    They start the bbq real well

  • @MaximilianYpplm
    @MaximilianYpplm6 ай бұрын

    Would be good to understand the change of context too with all the changes made.

  • @limayanglalkr3650
    @limayanglalkr36506 ай бұрын

    Allah lost election in Heaven and those days the party in power made some changes in the Qur'an ... 😂😂

  • @jueneturner8331
    @jueneturner83316 ай бұрын

    With all that has been found out about the development of Islam, I am curious about the development of Shia and Sunni branches. Does the info gathered about the development change the history of these two movements?

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Ali 'Imran: verse 186 3:186 You will surely be tested in your possessions and in yourselves. And you will surely hear from those who were given the Scripture before you and from those who associate others with Allah much abuse. But if you are patient and fear Allah - indeed, that is of the matters [worthy] of resolve.

  • @astrogoodvibes6164
    @astrogoodvibes61646 ай бұрын

    Is the moon god not wise enough to protect his text from modern technology and scholarship revealing the fabricators shoddy work? Weak god, week in, week out.

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    Yahweh is the Egyptian moongod.

  • @astrogoodvibes6164

    @astrogoodvibes6164

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alonzoharris326 'Al' means ''of or from god'' in Aramaic (as in Dani'al', Gabri'al', Isre'al'....it was changed to the suffix 'el' later) 'Lah' means moon god in pagan Arabia, as in Al-lah. Yahweh is an English corruption of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH which was a Midianite (N.W. part of now Jordan) term for love, desire or passion. God refers to himself by the personal name only as 'I am' in the old and new testament.

  • @alonzoharris326

    @alonzoharris326

    6 ай бұрын

    @@astrogoodvibes6164 Can you show me an academic source for Lah being a moongod? Show me a source. Show me that Lah was a moongod in Arabia. Show me a god that was called Lah. I’m waiting for your answer.

  • @astrogoodvibes6164

    @astrogoodvibes6164

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alonzoharris326 You made the initial claim that Yahweh was an Egyptian moon god. If you demand academic sources, then I demand that it is on you first to provide me with an academic source for your first claim, only then will I provide mine to prove my facts. Be prepared, mine comes from an academic who has a full degree in Islamic law from Al Azhar university in Cairo, speaks fluent Arabic (modern and ancient) as well as Aramaic.

  • @adrine5193
    @adrine51936 ай бұрын

    QURAN CORRUPTED BY GOAT AISHA EIT HALF QURAN 10 TIMES BEARST FEEDING FOR ADALID MISSING BROTHER MISSING 😂

  • @RafikKhan-ol4zk

    @RafikKhan-ol4zk

    6 ай бұрын

    You don't know what you talking Maybe remove the holy ghost from You then you can talk sence

  • @ankur7773

    @ankur7773

    6 ай бұрын

    TOVIA AND ABDULs EVERYTIME 🗣🎶PE🎶pe🎶bla🎶BLA

  • @mo_51_married_aisha_6

    @mo_51_married_aisha_6

    6 ай бұрын

    Now that's perfect preservation. The Quran came out of the goat exactly the same way it went in.🤣

  • @Bro_Mike_Phil117

    @Bro_Mike_Phil117

    6 ай бұрын

    Allah botato

  • @adrine5193

    @adrine5193

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ankur7773 BABY AISHA BABY AISHA WHERE ARE YOU HERE MOHAMMS HERE MOHAMMS HOW DO YOU DO.

  • @mxzaidi
    @mxzaidi6 ай бұрын

    Dr. Jay Smith -- A compelling argument indeed. A question please: Assuming Moh'd was fictional, how do we reconcile everything related to Moh'd: His son-in-law, Imam Ali -- cause for the Sunni-Shia conflict to this date; Ali's two sons, Hassan and Hussain and their families (the Twelver Imams of the Shiates); the battle of Karbala where Hussain and his 70 comrades were killed by Yazeed (son of Mauviya), and Hussain's shrine in Karbala that exists today? Was the Karbala battle fictional as well? Also, there's a whole genealogy, and family tree records, of the 12 Imams to this day, and their descendant living today all over the world, with documented family tree, connecting to Imam Ali, his wife Fatima (Moh'd's daughter), and their descendants. How do we reconcile all that if Moh'd were fictional?

  • @waelnahal2745
    @waelnahal27456 ай бұрын

    Mid-8th Quran : "If you should die or be stain, you shall NOT be gathered" This not only contradict the itself in hufs quran, but also contradict the whole theological staind point of the quran in many versus that clearly shows that we shall UNDOUBTEDLY be gathered.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-Ahzab: verse 39-40 33:39 [Allāh praises] those who convey the messages of Allāh1 and fear Him and do not fear anyone but Allāh. And sufficient is Allāh as Accountant. 33:40 Muḥammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allāh and seal [i.e., last] of the prophets. And ever is Allāh, of all things, Knowing.

  • @curtishill6490
    @curtishill64906 ай бұрын

    I heard a couple weeks ago that the Quran has mostly stayed word for word since its beginning!

  • @The_Zilli

    @The_Zilli

    6 ай бұрын

    well whoever told you that is full of it. I suggest checking out the YT channel Give Light to learn more about the Quran from a former Muslim.

  • @albertgallegos9938

    @albertgallegos9938

    6 ай бұрын

    ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION "Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt." Sahih al-Bukhari 4987 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION Umar said, "Ubayy was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur'an), yet we leave some of what he recites." Ubayy says, "I have taken it from the mouth of Allah's Messenger and will not leave it for anything whatever." Sahih al-Bukhari 5005 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION ...We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Baraat. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust." And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it... Sahih Muslim 2286 ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION [Ibn Umar said]: "Let none of you say, 'I have learned the whole of the Koran,' for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, 'I have learned what remains thereof." Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada'il-al-Quran ARGUMENT FROM PERFECT PRESERVATION It was narrated that Aishah said: "The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it." Sunan Ibn Majah 1944

  • @puraLusa

    @puraLusa

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@muslimsunitysoonby introducing imam interpretation and schollar agreement/ disagreement - interpretation already happened. Literary meaning is an impossible task if faith based, as being faithful is already an emotion. Basic literature 101.

  • @MustardSkaven

    @MustardSkaven

    6 ай бұрын

    There was no written Quranic text until 742. Everything was in humans memory until then. We knows humans aren't perfect and forget or misremember things.@@muslimsunitysoon

  • @MustardSkaven

    @MustardSkaven

    6 ай бұрын

    @@muslimsunitysoon I am sure Idlamists told you such falsehoods. Leaves and stones, lol. You read a Quran made in 1924.

  • @shogiwar
    @shogiwar6 ай бұрын

    When was this video filmed ? 2022?

  • @janbalaz8246
    @janbalaz82466 ай бұрын

    Hi Mr Alfadi.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Fatir:verse 19-23 35:19 Not equal are the blind and the seeing, 35:20 Nor are the darknesses and the light, 35:20 Nor are the shade and the heat,1 35:22 And not equal are the living and the dead. Indeed, Allāh causes to hear whom He wills, but you cannot make hear those in the graves.1 35:23 You, [O Muḥammad], are not but a warner.

  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan37086 ай бұрын

    Very knowledgeable video. Islam can’t hide its lies anymore I was reading Daniel 12:4 and that prophecy is fulfilled. Christian scholars are studying and bringing new material every day. And die to technology informations are on our finger tips. Muslims....pleas come to Jesus because only Jesus saves.

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    Quran Surah Al-An'am: verse 19-21 6:19 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, "Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur’ān was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]." 6:20 Those to whom We have given the Scripture recognize it as they recognize their [own] sons. Those who will lose themselves [in the Hereafter] do not believe. 6:21 And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed.

  • @Tushar-AntiPorkistani

    @Tushar-AntiPorkistani

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@noreenismail3832everyone apart from Arabs have succeeded

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Tushar-AntiPorkistani ......................... Succeeded in what? There are many categories or fields of success.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Tushar-AntiPorkistani ......................... Succeeded in what? There are many categories or fields of success.

  • @vincentfernandez7328
    @vincentfernandez73286 ай бұрын

    could you scan this book and make it public?

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Quran Surah Al-An'am: verse 19-21 6:19 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, "Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur’ān was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]." 6:20 Those to whom We have given the Scripture recognize it as they recognize their [own] sons. Those who will lose themselves [in the Hereafter] do not believe. 6:21 And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed.

  • @collybever

    @collybever

    6 ай бұрын

    So you must not like the muslims who edited the Topkapi manuscript to bring it into line with Hafs it seems. As in really muslims should respect their earliest manuscripts, and ideally produce a Quran using the earliest manuscripts. The later "recitations", including the Hafs, which is used as standard now by many muslims after 20C political choices, have manifold small errors. When it comes to "partners of Allah" we should not allow any prophet to promote themself to be on the level of God. Such a person would not be biblically chosen to be a prophet, in its narratives, and such a move would be shirk, unforgivable, says the Quran.

  • @aaronharun1394H
    @aaronharun1394H6 ай бұрын

    The Quran is the most recent Book revealed and it acts as the Criterion over current Scriptures of the past that include the Torah and the Gospels.

  • @2012stvn

    @2012stvn

    6 ай бұрын

    is that the one where alla condones pedophilia ?

  • @2012stvn

    @2012stvn

    6 ай бұрын

    just like human faced flying donkeys@@garybowings1538

  • @collybever

    @collybever

    6 ай бұрын

    But it claims it is affirming previous scriptures, and they are valid and good, it says, the copies at the time. But then gets many things from those "books" wrong due to ignorance in the author(s), one calling himself ummi, i.e unstudied or could not even read, and is using identified non-canonical sources of varying quality. It is also only giving a smattering of Biblical narratives, and with errors due to use of poor sources, or maybe tampering to fit a polemical (originally unitarian) end. It's bad for instance to reduce Allah to just relate to us a slave-master, as the Biblical relationship is more complex. The gospels clearly spell out the end stage of Jesus' earthly life, deliberately to make it clear, and indeed in line with Biblical prophecy. So some one sent later would not go against that, unless he was very ignorant or freelancing for his own interests. It may say its the criterion, but it is inconsistent with what it claims it is affirming (and also an incredibly difficult book to study because of lack of a timeline, contradictions, confusing rapid switches of topic and so on - muslims seem to rely on their sheikhs who have to digest it for them.)

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    6 ай бұрын

    The Quran is the most recent Book revealed and it acts as a Criterion over current Scriptures of the past. Whatever alligns with the Quran, theres no reason to reject it. Whatever are in contradiction, theres no reason to accept it. Example is as follows: There are various beliefs on who the guests received by Abraham were. The guests received by Abraham and visited Lot that is mentioned in Genesis (in the Torah) were angels. Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men. Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Al-Quran 22: 75) In the Quran, the guests are referred to as Messengers: And certainly did Our rusul (messengers) come to Abraham with good tidings; they said, "Peace." He said, "Peace," and did not delay in bringing a roasted calf. But when he saw their hands not reaching for it, he distrusted them and felt from them apprehension. They said, "Fear not. We have been sent to the people of Lot." (Al-Quran 11: 69-70) And the guests did not reach for the food being served. And his wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob. She said, "Woe to me! Shall I give birth while I am an old woman and this, my husband, is an old man? Indeed, this is an amazing thing!" They said, "Are you amazed at the decree of Allah ? May the mercy of Allah and His blessings be upon you, people of the house. Indeed, He is Praiseworthy and Honorable." (Al-Quran 11: 71-73) Angel in form of a man informing the coming of a newborn child is consistent with angel Gabriel coming in form of a man announcing to Mary about her future son, Jesus as mentioned in the in the 19th chapter of the Quran. It is also consistent with angel informing Zachariah of the news of his newborn child, John. Both incidents mentioned in the Gospels. They said, "O Lot, indeed we are rusul (messengers) of your rabb (lord); [therefore], they will never reach you. So set out with your family during a portion of the night and let not any among you look back - except your wife; indeed, she will be struck by that which strikes them. Indeed, their appointment is [for] the morning. Is not the morning near?" (Al-Quran 11: 81) The guests identified themselves to Lot as messengers. [Abraham] said, "Then what is your business [here], O messengers?" They said, "Indeed, we have been sent to a people of criminals, Except the family of Lot; indeed, we will save them all Except his wife." Allah decreed that she is of those who remain behind. (Al-Quran 15: 57-60) Abraham referred to them as messengers and not lords. Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? (Al-Quran 3: 80)

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    6 ай бұрын

    O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book. By which Allah guides those who pursue His pleasure to the ways of peace and brings them out from darknesses into the light, by His permission, and guides them to a straight path. They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy the Messiah, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent. But the Jews and the Christians say, "We are the children of Allah and His beloved." Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination. O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger to make clear to you [the religion] after a period [of suspension] of messengers, lest you say, "There came not to us any bringer of good tidings or a warner." But there has come to you a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And Allah is over all things competent. (Al-Quran translation 5: 15-19) فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ (Allah) السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ According to arabic translations of the bible that you can find online, Allah (الله ) is the Creator of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1: 1 Indeed, your rabb (Lord) is Allah, who created the heavens and earth ... (Al-Quran translation 7: 54) People of the Scripture refers to the Jews and/or Christians.

  • @akhash9659
    @akhash96596 ай бұрын

    And they say the Bible is corrupted. Always playing victim

  • @ex-muslimtestimonies001
    @ex-muslimtestimonies0016 ай бұрын

    The holes are perfectly preserved 🙌

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    Why is it the BIOGRAPHY of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is TOTALLY HOLEY? And why the Christians are not fully aware about this HUGE HOLE? Is this what is being called a BLIND FOLLOWING? Is the story of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) NOT IMPORTANT to them when in fact, they should oblige themselves to know every minute detail of it? What is the use of venerating him when they know only a little about him? As can be observed that in spite of the 4 narratives depicted in the 4 make-believe gospels, the 4 Greek writers failed to give the full account of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). The narrative started from year 1 which tells about his miraculous conception and his birth, and then it jumped immediately to year 30 which tells about his preaching of the Aramaic Gospel to the children of Israel (Jews), and ended in year 33 where he was allegedly crucified and ascended to heaven. 28 years from year 2 to year 29 which comprised the primetime of his life are unaccounted for. Indeed, what a BIG, BIG HOLE it is!!! Such a man who hailed from a miraculous beginning cannot escape the curious and inquisitive eyes of the people. So, it could not be that there is no narrative for those 28 years. It could not be that out of his 33 years on earth, only 5 years were accounted for and having narrative. Those 28 years must have been replete with tremendous meaningful and wonderful activities. It could not be that after he ascended to heaven, people of his time blew all the memories about him into oblivion. The story of such a man like him who is revered and venerated by the people cannot easily be forgotten. But why did the 4 Greek writers skip the account of the primetime of his life? Is there something fishy that needs to be hidden? One cannot help to cast doubt that there is really something fishy in the narratives of the biography of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Indeed, I smell something fishy. -12-14-23

  • @ignaciobellota5952
    @ignaciobellota59526 ай бұрын

    Im proud to be chatholic.❤❤❤ God bless us..

  • @deborahrose1269

    @deborahrose1269

    6 ай бұрын

    Be proud to be a Christian, not a Catholic, and hope you know what it means to be a Christina…… *Christ alike *

  • @KnightlyTruth

    @KnightlyTruth

    6 ай бұрын

    I’m proud to be one too!!

  • @fotisvon9943

    @fotisvon9943

    6 ай бұрын

    Its great to be Catholic because Christ started our church!

  • @deborahrose1269

    @deborahrose1269

    6 ай бұрын

    @@fotisvon9943 You're capping 🧢 gibberish….where did you read that ✍️ in Bible because God never started any church

  • @deborahrose1269

    @deborahrose1269

    6 ай бұрын

    @@KnightlyTruth proud to be Christian not a Church

  • @alfiras8604
    @alfiras86046 ай бұрын

    There are many errors and misrepresentations in this video. I'll be open to discussing these (and more) in a discussion/debate with you, if you are interested. Until then, I'll just say this: 1. The 2270 differences mentioned are spelling variations. See what Altikulaç says in full: "There are differences between the Topkapi mushaf and the Fahd edition in around 2270 places ... And the reason for the apparent large number (of differences) is that many of the words that are written with a different spelling are from the category of words that are repeated throughout the Qur'an. There are some examples to that: The words alā (على) and ḥattā (حتى) appear in the Topkapi muṣḥaf written with an alif, as {علا} and {حتا} in more than 780 places. The words bi āyātinā, bi āyātihi, bi āyāt, and bi āyātī are written with two yā’s instead of one as present in the Muṣḥaf al-Madinah, in more than 90 places. Words such as yastaḥyī, nastaḥyī, nuḥyī are written in the Muṣḥaf al-Madinah with one yā’, but in the Topkapi muṣḥaf, they are written with two yā’s. All of these are purely spelling variations, which are well documented in the later Muslim literature as well. None of these cause a difference in the way the word is recited. It's comparable to spelling "colour" as "color". 2. You mention the following variant at 14:38 discussed by Keith Small "O Lord, You know what we conceal and what he revealed" instead of "O Lord, You know what we conceal and what we reveal". This is inaccurate. The actual variant Keith Small claims to be present in this manuscript is a diacritical one: it has يعلن instead of نعلن. This would translate to "O Lord, You know what we conceal and what he reveals". In either case, this variant simply doesn't make sense. You can find the standard dotting in other (even earlier) ms: Codex Parisino Petropolitanus, Codex Amrensis and others: corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/27/page/3v?sura=14&verse=38 3. You mention an insertion of the lām, lām, hā of the word allāh in Q66:8. This is correct, yet your translation of this variant does not take this into account (and is thus wrong). The correct translation would be: O you who believe, turn to ا (alif) with a sincere repentance. The alif is, as you yourself note, clearly written by the original scribe. You don't need to be an expert to know that this is a scribal error. Here is Hythem Sidky's critique of Brubaker: "Example 11 is remarkable in demonstrating the lengths to which Brubaker goes in order to avoid suggesting scribal error as an explanation ... Brubaker starts considering alternative readings of the consonantal text before conceding: “It is not clear to me what was intended by the original version, or whether it could have been read viably” (p. 65). It seems pretty reasonable to me that the scribe wrote the first letter of allāh, began a new line, and accidentally forgot to complete the word. That such a scenario is not suggested deprives the reader of a perfectly valid and indeed better explanation. 4. You mention an insertion of the word huwa in the Topkapi manuscript in Q9:72. This is correct, but the standard reading can be found in multiple contemporary and earlier manuscripts. The following is Hythem Sidky's explanation of this correction: "There are exactly six verses containing the precise formula with huwa and another six without [it]. Earlier muṣḥafs containing the standard text include Saray Medina 1a, Wetzstein II 1913, Arabe 328a, and BL Or. 2165" So we now can infer the following: If the scribe of the Topkpai codex was intentionally trying to change the Qur'an's text, he failed. The reading we have today exists in manuscripts even earlier than the Topkapi codex -> his variant didn't manage to replace the original text. Thus, there was no actual change to the Qur'an itself. There was a change in a random manuscript, yes. But this can be easily explained as a scribal error (in this case, the scribe most likely confused 2 formulas that occur frequently in the Quran). If someone were asked to write the Qur'an today, he would make mistakes. Especially if he wasn't a proficient scribe, or proficient in reciting the text. Why should variants in early manuscripts have any special theological value IF we can show that the person who wrote it did not manage to change the Qur'an itself?

  • @therealkingbaldwin

    @therealkingbaldwin

    6 ай бұрын

    Sounds like you agreed with the video lmao we appreciate the elaboration of the facts but this is not a refutation. The claim is there are many Quranic manuscript variants. Muslims claim the bible is corrupted on the basis of scribal errors and poor translation decisions into other languages, yet this is equally as much of a “problem” with muslims. The issue is nobody knows what the 100% accurate manuscript with zero errors is, but personally I dont think it’s necessary I believe the message of the quran has been preserved for the most part. But nobody knows what the original quran is or was. And its a theological problem in as much as the meanings are contradictory and need to be reconciled, and saying there are earlier manuscripts that say something different doesnt establish anything. Be earlier does not equal more true.

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@therealkingbaldwinI was expecting a reply like this. No, I do not agree with the video, and this is not an "elaboration". Let me put this in a way you'll understand: 1. The majority of "variants" are spelling differences. 2. The others are scribal errors, and if you turn to other (often earlier) manuscripts, you get the standard reading. In other words, the Qur'an's text itself hasn't been changed. Let's say someone finds a difference in a midieval hand-written New Testament manuscript. Would you say this difference poses a threat to the accuracy/preservation of the text itself if there are dozens of manuscripts produced earlier which have the expected reading?

  • @therealkingbaldwin

    @therealkingbaldwin

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604The video claimed a majority of the differences are spelling and grammar

  • @therealkingbaldwin

    @therealkingbaldwin

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alfiras8604and yes the video also references scribal errors. But you skipped over the manuscript verses with blatant contradiction. But yes like the video says, most of them are spelling or scribal errors. So thanks for agreeing and elaborating on the claim. I completely understood what you are trying to say and I agree with it, but it goes against what most of the muslim world argues. The muslims say the quran has never had any variants and has been perfectly preserved in all cases and its always been that way. Christians allow for minor grammatical and scribal errors because it was written by man inspired by God, its a bigger issue for muslims because they claim God said specific words and the quran is those words verbatim. So even a minor error or difference is a big deal if the claim is its the literal word for word verbatim speech of God

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@therealkingbaldwinWhere did they say that among the 2270 variations, majority are spelling-related? I "skipped over" 2 variations mentioned here, but they're actually more problematic than the ones discussed above. I also didn't want the reply to be too long (the above reply was already long enough). The supposed "contradiction" in Q3:158 is actually a spelling variant. I discussed it in my (informal) review of Robert Spencer's Critical Qur'an: "Unsurprisingly, this is not a valid reading. Instead, this is simply a [mistranslation of a] spelling difference due to an ancient spelling practice whereby an additional alif is added to the particle la-, if it is followed by a word that begins with a hamzah. According to Abū Dāwūd Sulaymān b. Najāḥ, this spelling practice also appears in some muṣḥafs at other parts of the Qurʾān as well such as at Q37:68 {la-ila l-jaḥīm}, 9:47 {la-awḍaʿū} and in all muṣḥafs at Q27:21{la-adhbaḥannahu}.7 In all of such cases, this additional alif is not vocalized, and the meaning of the verse is unchanged." www.academia.edu/79218897/Book_Review_Robert_Spencer_The_Critical_Quran_Explained_from_Key_Islamic_Commentaries_and_Contemporary_Historical_Research If you don't trust my analysis, you can also find this in Marijn Van Putten's recent book Qur'anic Arabic: In the Quran the asseverative la- is frequently spelled ال before 1sg. form of the verb.2 It is attested once in the CE in /la-ʔaḏbaḥanna-h/ ‘I will surely slaughter him’ (Q27:21), but attested in quite a few more places in Early Quranic Manuscripts ... The spelling as لا is not just restricted to cases of the asseverative particle before a 1sg. verb, but can occur before any word that starts with a hamzah; Al- Dānī (Muqniʕ, 36) reports the spelling لااوضعوا’ they were active’ (Q9:47), which is indeed attested in early manuscripts (gk; bl; Rampur Raza). And likewise, for the asseverative particle combined with the preposition إلى we find the spelling {لاالى} (Q3:158: S, W,36 Q47, gk,37 cpp; Q37:68: W, Arabe 333d), as pointed out by Diem (1979, §26). A close examination of early manuscripts will likely uncover even more cases. The other one is discussed in Hythem Sidky's review of Brubaker's book: The presentation of example 14 as described in the book is entirely unconvincing. Brubaker asserts that Q 4:167 in the Topkapı muṣḥaf has an erasure that takes the verse away from conformity with the standard text. He then opines that “the reason for this erasure is unclear, but its precision in taking out the selected words is evident” (p. 71). There are several reasons to question this conclusion, not the least of which is a total lack of precision in the supposed erasure. The first relevant line ends in wa-ṣaddū ʿan sabīli (“and who turn from the way of”) with an additional erased alif belonging to the next word, allāh. The second line, which is partially and unevenly faded (in brackets) but still readable, continues: [llāhi qad] ḍallū ḍalālan baʿīdā (“[God have certainly] wandered far astray”). The faded passage, which includes part of the ḍād of the word ḍallū, contrary to Brubaker’s claim of precision erasure, simply appears to have been worn out."

  • @mkutluk
    @mkutluk6 ай бұрын

    From this video, I understand that the corrections made on the Topkapi scripts are more of a clarification purposes. Although you mentioned over 2000 differences, it was not clear from the video what those changes were. Could you kindly show if there are additions or subtractions of verses or chapters? Otherwise it is not worth mentioning, it just proves Muslims claims. I really appreciate your work and we expect more in depth analysis and evidence showing those big differences between the scripts, like verses or chapters added or deleted etc.

  • @WebinarPerson

    @WebinarPerson

    6 ай бұрын

    Word "we" instead of word "he" is more than enough to say that someone changed the text! 😂

  • @mkutluk

    @mkutluk

    6 ай бұрын

    @@WebinarPersonMay be some small touches have been made to correct the grammar, understanding etc. But the use of plural “We” instead of “He” is suspicious. Sounds like those are adopted from Christian texts as “We” imply Trinity 😂

  • @alfiras8604

    @alfiras8604

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@WebinarPersonThe variant is not accurately translated, and doesn't even make sense. See my reply to this video elsewhere. You can find other contemporary and earlier manuscripts with today's reading.

  • @generationsofmotivation9212

    @generationsofmotivation9212

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@alfiras8604 earlier manuscripts? And what are these manuscripts names? Even if other manuscripts let's say "have no changes" it doesn't matter because there's changes in current Quran even in the modern English translation some stories aren't the same as the Arabic translation. And its not a "transliteration" issue. I speak and read arabic so its weird to see that and then my muslim friends tell me nothings changed when literally its right there. Besdies that, the current Quran is contradictory unless you want to really go out of your way to make up reasons to how it's not, so is Allah contradictory? Christian Prince on youtube typically proves this rather easily. But we know the Quran has changed no matter what because there's periods of 100s of years between Muhammad's death and any actual written manuscripts. Muslims literally believe somebody memorized the whole Quran and wrote it all down by memory. I'd like to see any Muslim do that with today's Quran live streamed in a empty room with cameras at every angle. Let's see how accurate the writings would be lol zero chance of 100% accuracy and now take into consideration aisha and the goat, Muhammad's best friend and his brother etc and you realize there's been many changes. Which is why sunni and Shia who kill each other endlessly over this because Allah provided an incomplete book and trusted somebody called Muhammad, who couldn't even read or write and had his tongue controlled by the devil for some years so how do muslims know and can guarantee that when Muhammad's tongue was controlled by the devil none of what the devil did while controlling Muhammad's tongue is in the Quran today?

  • @G-yf5jr
    @G-yf5jr6 ай бұрын

    They change it to suites their needs.

  • @Truthteller1010
    @Truthteller10106 ай бұрын

    Clearly the text has change but does it change the recitation from the 8th century to the 1924 version?

  • @chriseasterly5142

    @chriseasterly5142

    6 ай бұрын

    I thought Muslims say not one letter has ever been changed. That’s a bunch of crap.

  • @antjosh4507
    @antjosh45076 ай бұрын

    no all perfect God in all universe can be inconsistent. believe on a true god and receive his abundant blessings and world peace praying as one peoples

  • @eva4adam451
    @eva4adam4516 ай бұрын

    The university in Leiden NL Still produces the oldfasioned story about mekka mohammed and coran. I heard probably Persians can read old arabic.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    It's because it created a team led by Dr. Marijn Van Putten, Professor in that university, to study the Qur'an, Islam and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Dr. Putten has written a book, QUR'AN DATES BACK TO MUHAMMAD?. -12-14-23

  • @boriserjavec6470
    @boriserjavec64706 ай бұрын

    also the sher ali translation of quran, has the verses numbered wrong

  • @bebobauomy1265
    @bebobauomy12653 ай бұрын

    There is a lot of deception in this video. Yes, there are many differences between the current Qur’an and the Topkapi Qur’an, but those differences are almost spelling differences, and this is actually what Dr. Tayyar proved in his book. For example, from the 2260 differences, +780 differences are the result of writing the preposition “على” as it is pronounced, "علا" ( We write this preposition "على" but we pronounce it "علا". ), another +150 differences are the result of writing the long vowels letters as two letters instead of one letter, almost all of the remaining differences result from not writing the letter 'alif' ( That is used as a long vowel. ), a phenomenon known in first and second century manuscripts, the rest of the "differences" are copyists' errors, it is possible to easily know the difference between a scribal error and a distortion by seeing whether this "difference" is repeated in any other manuscript or not. Secondly, Western manuscript scholars have already agreed that the current Qur’an is identical to the Uthmanic Qur’an (codex). All manuscripts of the first and second centuries discovered have already proven this fact. Even if these 2260 difference are WORDS, not just letters, it means that the current Qur’an is at least 97% similar to the Topkapi Qur’an. BTW, I checked Surah 14:38, 3:158 and THEY ARE IDENTICAL TO THE CURRENT Qur’an, in other words, more than half of the video is based on a lie, of course I'd be happy if you could prove me wrong.

  • @davidludwig5859
    @davidludwig58596 ай бұрын

    Imagine if large numbers of those followers find out the truth and discover the saviour ❤ it'll be the largest victory of life over death in history. Praise be to the Almighty whose mercy and grace never end.

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    A lot of Muslims understood that Islam is only made by Muhammad for Muhammad. Millions are leaving this death cult in Arabian countries.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    By N.S. Gill Updated on May 21, 2019 The Arian controversy (not to be confused with the Indo-Europeans known as Aryans) was a discourse that occurred in the Christian church of the 4th century CE, that threatened to upend the meaning of the church itself. The Christian church, like the Judaic church before it, was committed to monotheism: all the Abrahamic religions say there is only one God. Arius (256-336 CE), a fairly obscure scholar and presbyter at Alexandria and originally from Libya, is said to have argued that the incarnation of Jesus Christ threatened that monotheistic status of the Christian church, because he was not of the same substance as God, instead a creature made by God and so capable of vice. The Council of Nicea was called, in part, to resolve this issue. The Council of Nicea The first council of Nicea (Nicaea) was the first ecumenical council of the Christian church, and it lasted between May and August, 325 CE. It was held in Nicea, Bithynia (in Anatolia, modern Turkey), and a total of 318 bishops attended, according to the records of the bishop at Nicea, Athanasius (bishop from 328-273). The number 318 is a symbolic number for the Abrahamic religions: basically, there would be one participant at Nicea to represent each of the members of the Biblical Abraham's household. The Nicean council had three goals: to resolve the Melitian controversy-which was over the readmission to the Church of lapsed Christians, to establish how to calculate the date of Easter each year, and to settle matters stirred up by Arius, the presbyter at Alexandria. Athanasius (296-373 CE) was an important fourth-century Christian theologian and one of the eight great Doctors of the Church. He was also the major, albeit polemical and biased, contemporary source we have on the beliefs of Arius and his followers. Athanasius' interpretation was followed by the later Church historians Socrates, Sozomen, and Theodoret.

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    Church Councils *When Christianity took hold in the Roman Empire, the doctrine had yet to be fixed. A council is an assembly of theologians and church dignitaries called together to discuss the doctrine of the church. There have been 21 councils of what became the Catholic Church-17 of them occurred before 1453).* The problems of interpretation (part of the doctrinal issues), emerged when theologians tried to rationally explain the simultaneously divine and human aspects of Christ. This was especially difficult to do without resorting to pagan concepts, in particular having more than one divine being. Once the councils had determined such aspects of doctrine and heresy, as they did in the early councils, they moved on to church hierarchy and behavior. The Arians were not opponents of the orthodox position because orthodoxy had yet to be defined. *Opposing Images of God* *At heart, the controversy in front of the church was how to fit Christ into the religion as a divine figure without disrupting the notion of monotheism. In the 4th century, there were several possible ideas that would account for that.* The Sabellians (after the Libyan Sabellius) taught that there was a single entity, the prosōpon, made up of God the Father and Christ the Son. The Trinitarian Church fathers, Bishop Alexander of Alexandria and his deacon, Athanasius, believed there were three persons in one god (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). The Monarchianists believed in only one indivisible being. These included Arius, who was presbyter in Alexandria under the Trinitarian bishop, and Eusebius, Bishop of Nicomedia (the man who coined the term "oecumenical council" and who had estimated participation at a substantially lower and more realistic attendance of 250 bishops). When Alexander accused Arius of denying the second and third person of the Godhead, Arius accused Alexander of Sabellian tendencies. Homo Ousion vs. Homoi Ousion The sticking point at the Nicene Council was a concept found nowhere in the Bible: homoousion. According to the concept of homo + ousion, Christ the Son was consubstantial-the word is the Roman translation from the Greek, and it means that there was no difference between the Father and the Son. Arius and Eusebius disagreed. Arius thought the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were materially separate from each other, and that the Father created the Son as a separate entity: the argument hinged on the birth of Christ to a human mother. Here is a passage from a letter Arian wrote to Eusebius: " (4.) We are not able to listen to these kinds of impieties, even if the heretics threaten us with ten thousand deaths. But what do we say and think and what have we previously taught and do we presently teach? - that the Son is not unbegotten, nor a part of an unbegotten entity in any way, nor from anything in existence, but that he is subsisting in will and intention before time and before the ages, full God, the only-begotten, unchangeable. (5.) Before he was begotten, or created, or defined, or established, he did not exist. For he was not unbegotten. But we are persecuted because we have said the Son has a beginning but God has no beginning. We are persecuted because of that and for saying he came from non-being. But we said this since he is not a portion of God nor of anything in existence. That is why we are persecuted; you know the rest." *Arius and his followers, the Arians, believed if the Son were equal to the Father, there would be more than one God: but Christianity had to be a monotheistic religion, and Athanasius believed that by insisting Christ was a separate entity, Arius was taking the church into mythology or worse, polytheism.* *Further, opposing Trinitarians believed that making Christ a subordinate to God diminished the importance of the Son. Wavering Decision of Constantine At the Nicean council, the Trinitarian bishops prevailed, and the Trinity was established as the core of the Christian church. Emperor Constantine (280-337 CE), who may or may not have been a Christian at the time-Constantine was baptized shortly before he died, but had made Christianity the official state religion of the Roman Empire by the time of the Nicean council-intervened. The decision of the Trinitarians made Arius's questions heresy akin to revolt, so Constantine exiled the excommunicated Arius to Illyria (modern Albania).* Constantine's friend and Arian-sympathizer Eusebius, and a neighboring bishop, Theognis, were also exiled-to Gaul (modern France). In 328, however, Constantine reversed his opinion about the Arian heresy and had both exiled bishops reinstated. At the same time, Arius was recalled from exile. Eusebius eventually withdrew his objection, but still wouldn't sign the statement of faith. Constantine's sister and Eusebius worked on the emperor to obtain reinstatement for Arius, and they would have succeeded, if Arius hadn't suddenly died-by poisoning, probably, or, as some prefer to believe, by divine intervention.

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    After Nicea Arianism regained momentum and evolved (becoming popular with some of the tribes that were invading the Roman Empire, like the Visigoths) and survived in some form until the reigns of Gratian and Theodosius, at which time, St. Ambrose (c. 340-397) set to work stamping it out. But the debate by no means was over in the 4th century. Debate continued into the fifth century and beyond, with: " ... confrontation between the Alexandrian school, with its allegorical interpretation of scripture and its emphasis on the one nature of the divine Logos made flesh, and the Antiochene school, which favoured a more literal reading of scripture and stressed the two natures in Christ after the union." (Pauline Allen, 2000) Anniversary of the Nicene Creed August 25, 2012, marked the 1687th anniversary of the creation of the upshot of the Council of Nicea, an initially controversial document cataloging the basic beliefs of Christians -- the Nicene Creed.

  • @RafikKhan-ol4zk
    @RafikKhan-ol4zk6 ай бұрын

    Web site information

  • @hundtim
    @hundtim6 ай бұрын

    One muslim told me it is only different dialects in the quran. It didnt matter what I told him.

  • @Jawwad124
    @Jawwad12425 күн бұрын

    Musaf is written by a man and they can make mistake and correct them after oral verification (Hufaz). Remember they didn't had printing press back than. It doesn't make sense to invalidate the whole book by just these arguments.

  • @aprabowo1
    @aprabowo16 ай бұрын

    Lakum dinukum waliyadin Amin.

  • @obadiahrichard4605
    @obadiahrichard46056 ай бұрын

    Allah in QUR'AN love changing his mind that was the reason Qur'an changes time to time

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    I believe it's the god of the Bible that keeps on changing his mind. How many times he repented after his commands failed? What kind of god is that who don't know what will happen next? -12-14-23

  • @EleazarDuprees
    @EleazarDuprees6 ай бұрын

    Indeed Allah is the greatest of deceivers or schemers. He doesn't have to be rational, because his will is not bound by any nature.

  • @simonhengle8316
    @simonhengle83166 ай бұрын

    Does Dr. J Smith mean 2024 for the new research date? or is this a repeat?

  • @YeshuaELcross
    @YeshuaELcross6 ай бұрын

    Would just be simpler to say Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords, all will come to know him from the greatest to the least.

  • @kb4432

    @kb4432

    6 ай бұрын

    Jesus, the Son of Mary is more factual. You can also say the Messiah

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @Yeshua ..................... Lord of Lords? You mean Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is the lord of the Father, lord of the Holy Spirit? So Prophet jESUs (pbuh) dethroned the Father? Dethroned the Holy Spirit? Did he stage a coup d'etat? King of Kings? Prophet jESUs (pbuh) did not possess a single attribute of being a King. 1). A king must have a kingdom, or a state to rule with. He has none. 2). A king must have a harem of women. He has none 3). A king must have a huge number of followers to protect him. He has none. 4). H is followers are willing to die for the King. His disciples all fled. 5). A king can enact new laws. He did not. 6). A king can sign treaty with other kings or head of states. He had not. 7). A King is respected by other kings, or leaders. He was mocked and crucified. He was not respected. Who do you think possessed all these attributes? -12-14-23

  • @YeshuaELcross

    @YeshuaELcross

    6 ай бұрын

    @defenderoftruth3212 The LORD in Hebrew translates to YWHW (hand, nail, behold, nail). Who is this YHWH? it's Jesus, "if you've seen me you've seen the FATHER" 😆 check mate dummies

  • @YeshuaELcross

    @YeshuaELcross

    6 ай бұрын

    @defenderoftruth3212 The LORD in Hebrew points to YHWH, and those four letters translates into (hand, behold, nail, behold). Who are they referencing "Jesus said if you've seen me, you've also seen the father" Jesus also said "before Abraham was I am" hope this blesses you and finds you well.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-Baqarah: verse 28-29 2:28 How can you deny Allah? You were lifeless and He gave you life, then He will cause you to die and again bring you to life, and then to Him you will ˹all˺ be returned. 2:29 He is the One Who created everything in the earth for you. Then He turned towards the heaven, forming it into seven heavens. And He has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things.

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    Quran 33:53: - O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity. IS THIS QURAN VERSE FROM ALLAH OR MADE BY MUHAMMAD?

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-Hajj: verse 73-74 22:73 O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for it [i.e., that purpose]. And if the fly should steal from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued. 22:74 They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.

  • @oOIYvYIOo
    @oOIYvYIOo6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your work in exposing one of the biggest heresies (number 153º in the Holy Catholic Roman Orthodox Church) and kaballas of Human kind. From and Orthodox priest.

  • @theodorepaul2610
    @theodorepaul26106 ай бұрын

    When they say the 8th century... do they mean the 700s or 800s? Technically, the 8th century is the seven-hundreds. But it sounds like maybe he means it's dated from the 800's. Does anyone know for sure which they mean?

  • @lionelroland6674

    @lionelroland6674

    6 ай бұрын

    It’s the 700’s

  • @richardtodd6559
    @richardtodd65596 ай бұрын

    And how many versions of the bible…because we keep changing it…to suit modern society

  • @saraoostrum300
    @saraoostrum300Ай бұрын

    BIBLE Book above all books! ❤

  • @marlinkhoshababratdeel2250
    @marlinkhoshababratdeel22506 ай бұрын

    Because the alphabet was Aramaic Assyrian Syriac alphabet it has no doubt so they they changed it and it was not dated like the Arabic today

  • @probalyyacci8793
    @probalyyacci87936 ай бұрын

    AllahuAkbar☝🏻

  • @greendotscott5038
    @greendotscott50386 ай бұрын

    Fiction books usually do.

  • @EeustaceE
    @EeustaceE6 ай бұрын

    The amendments did not go through parliamentary constitution 😅

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    Quran Surah Al-An'am: verse 19-21 6:19 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, "Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur’ān was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]." 6:20 Those to whom We have given the Scripture recognize it as they recognize their [own] sons. Those who will lose themselves [in the Hereafter] do not believe. 6:21 And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed.

  • @teresitaekim2565
    @teresitaekim25656 ай бұрын

    The Qur'an is changing because Qur'an was written by many people. They changed many things over the years.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-'Ankabut: verse 47-52 29:47 And thus We have sent down to you the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān]. And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture believe in it. And among these [people of Makkah] are those who believe in it. And none reject Our verses except the disbelievers. 29:48 And you did not recite before it any scripture, nor did you inscribe one with your right hand. Then [i.e., otherwise] the falsifiers would have had [cause for] doubt. 29:49 Rather, it [i.e., the Qur’ān] is distinct verses [preserved] within the breasts of those who have been given knowledge. And none reject Our verses except the wrongdoers. 29:50 And they ask: “Why have no miracles been sent down to (Muhammad) from his Lord? Say (O Muhammad): “(The task of giving) miracles are within the Power of Allah alone - as for me, I am only a plain warner.” 29:51 (Is it right for them to ask for other miracles?) Is it not sufficient for them that We have revealed to you the Qur’an which is recited to them? Surely, in the Qur’an there is a mercy and an admonition to true believers. 29:52 Say (O Muhammad): “Allah is the All-Sufficient Witness (in the matter discussed) between me and you. He knows all that is in the heavens and the earth. And those who believe in falsehood, and deny Allah it is they who are the losers.”

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah An-Nahl: verse 71-72 16:71 And Allah has favoured some of you over others in provision. But those who have been much favoured would not share their wealth with those ˹bondspeople˺ in their possession, making them their equals.1 Do they then deny Allah’s favours? 16:72 And Allah has made for you spouses of your own kind, and given you through your spouses children and grandchildren.1 And He has granted you good, lawful provisions. Are they then faithful to falsehood and ungrateful for Allah’s favours?

  • @turboleggy

    @turboleggy

    6 ай бұрын

    But if the prophet was here, she wouldnt be my spouse right? Because she could legally divorce me for him? And then if she was 25 and he died, she couldnt remarry and had to stay a widow all her life? How long do you think each suckle lasts? I mean 5 suckles from 10, each suckle should be strong and full. I guess theres just something i dont understand about wanting your female members of your family to do this to males so that makes them unlawful? I mean like is that an honor and makes things safer? By this logic every man that enters your home should suckle your wife or daughter. Then its all halal. sorry just following tbe prophets example here - multiple times he had people suckle Aisha] reported that 'in what was revealed of the Kur'an, ten attested breast-feeds were mentioned as required to establish the marriage-ban [i.e. render the suckled person a mahram]. The ten were replaced by mention of five attested breast-feeds. The Prophet died and the five were still being recited in the Kur'an. No man ever called upon 'A'isha who had not completed the minimum course of five sucklings.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@turboleggy ........................ Where in the Qur'an that says like that?

  • @bibledynasty5050
    @bibledynasty50506 ай бұрын

    You guys are mistaken. The 'WE" in the Qu'ran is not the royal 'WE', because that concept didn't start at that period in time. This came much much later. Secondly, you need to read allot of islamic books to understand that the 'WE' in the Qu'ran, is actually MOHAMMED UNIFYING HIMSELF WITH ALLAH AND HIS COMPANIONS and it is also the UNIFICATION OF ALL PREVIOUS PROPHETS WITH THEIRS. The WE is the unification of ALL these as ONE.

  • @LEGIOUSIAM888

    @LEGIOUSIAM888

    6 ай бұрын

    behold the nail behold the hand he did it for you...

  • @generationsofmotivation9212

    @generationsofmotivation9212

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh so Muhammad is one with Allah? So how did satan control his tongue for years?It's not the royal "we" sure. I've heard this one many times and I usually let muslims get away with saying it because it's so stupid arguing it. Anyway, if Allah and Muhammad are one, why did Allah only give Muhammad one Quran, but Muhammad had to ask for more? What's the point of this other than to glorify Muhammad himself? And The Quran is written in a way to give itself excuses for all the faults in it. You know this for sure because if you ever debate a muslim it's like debating someone who has excuses for everything imaginable. History doesn't matter, archeology doesn't matter, manuscripts don't matter nothing. Just Allah. Even though No original uthman Quran exists. But theres over 6000 new testament manuscripts that exist. So which book can easily be changed? The one with 6000 manuscripts written within decades after Jesus' crucifixion were talking 20-40 years after. Or the book with massive gapes in history no original writings and very little orignal manuscripts having to do with the Quran itself that date back to the time period of Muhammad? And a book which was apparently recited by memory and written down. It's simple, which book is easier to change? The one with a lot of supporting documents or the one with little? but of course muslims will argue Allah knows best, which is why I'm assuming Muhammad calls for the killing of specific groups of people because Muhammad knows best as well right? Or Abdul, Mahmmud, Gamal etc since Muhammad for some reason has many names besides his original name given to him by his parents. Do you know what the meaning of the name Muhammad is in arabic? Its obvious why the Islamic prophet chose this name for himself once you know. Knowing that name makes it obvious why muslim pray for Muhammad as well in their prayers even though he should be in heaven right? But if Muhammad is having infinite sex and hard penis like the Quran says awaits every muslim man in heaven then I doubt these prayers are doing anything because hes so busy with women like he was on earth. Just like a true prophet and The women really get left out in islam and just become sex slaves even moms become sex slaves in heaven for all the men who are so great and deserving lol the women become all the same saying the same thing everytime. I had to reread this part of the Quran in arabic because I thought it was false English translation I was wrong it's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I dunno how you can stay muslim, just listen to Christian Prince on youtube. Study non bias sources. But Islam is so much like a cult most people can't leave it or their family kills them, abuses them or anything, unless that persons leaves before anything like that happens. But Islam is love, which is completely false from an objective standpoint but whatever. It seems to me muslims like pretending to be Chirstian by saying things like that. I think thats why Muhammad stole many Jewish stories and added it to the Quran because wanted to be a Jewish or Christian prophet. I mean Muhammad even said the jews and Christians are good until both jews and Christians denied Muhammad as a true prophet after he failed simple tests. Then Muhammad changes his mind and says they are bad he's like a kid lol. But apparently Muhammad and Allah are one we are all one, which is why sunni and Shia kill each other till this day and always have from the beginning because Allah trusted a guy who couldn't read or write and didn't write anything down so everyone is left confused after he died and fight each other.

  • @user-yz9uw5wo4k
    @user-yz9uw5wo4k6 ай бұрын

    It changes as the Cow'run .

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Examples of New Testament Contradictions In the New Testament, there are contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke. Both genealogies begin with Jesus’ father, who is identified as Joseph (which is curious, given that Mary was supposedly impregnated by the Holy Ghost). But Matthew says Joseph’s father was Jacob, while Luke claims he was Heli. Matthew lists 26 generations between Jesus and King David, whereas Luke records 41. Matthew runs Jesus’ line of descent through David’s son Solomon, while Luke has it going through David’s son Nathan. The story of Jesus’ birth is also contradictory. Matthew 2:13-15 depicts Joseph and Mary as fleeing to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately after the wise men from the east had brought gifts. But Luke 2:22-40 claims that after the birth of Jesus, his parents remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary’s purification (which was 40 days, under the Mosaic law). Afterwards, they brought Jesus to Jerusalem “to present him to the Lord,” and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke mentions no journey into Egypt or visit by wise men from the east.

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    Are Allah’s decrees changed or not? 1. “Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers,” (6:34). 2. “The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115). 3. None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” (2:106). 4. When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not,” (16:101).

  • @mjsaedy6637
    @mjsaedy66376 ай бұрын

    And while debating a few letters... Christians cant agree on the number of books in the Bible!!!!

  • @doludeli
    @doludeli6 ай бұрын

    The term "Quran is not changed" refers to its message, not the text.. For examle, do these "researchers" find a difference between, what was forbidden on the older texts but not forbidden on the texts today. That's the matter. Only idiots or ill-wishers can go to a claim of distortion through the caligrapjy.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Regarding the last words of Jesus while on the cross, Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.” John 19:30 alleges the last words were, “It is finished.” There are even contradictions in the accounts of the resurrection - the supposed event that is the very foundation of the Christian religion. Mark 16:2 states that on the day of the resurrection, certain women arrived at the tomb at the rising of the sun. But John 20:1 informs us they arrived when it was yet dark. Luke 24:2 describes the tomb as open when the women arrived, whereas Matthew 28:1-2 indicates it was closed. Mark 16:5 declares that the women saw a young man at the tomb, Luke 24:4 says they saw two men, Matthew 28:2 reports they saw an angel, and John 20:11-12 claims they saw two angels. Also in the resurrection stories, there are contradictions as to the identity of the women who came to the tomb,[7] whether the men or angels the women saw were inside or outside the tomb,[8] whether the men or angels were standing or sitting,[9] and whether Mary Magdalene recognized the risen Jesus when he first appeared to her.[10] As a final example of a New Testament contradiction, the conflicting accounts of Paul’s conversion can be cited. Acts 9:7 states that when Jesus called Paul to preach the gospel, the men who were with Paul heard a voice but saw no man. According to Acts 22:9, however, the men saw a light but didn’t hear the voice speaking to Paul. The foregoing examples are just a few of the hundreds of contradictions contained in the Old and New Testaments. Each contradiction is an instance where at least one of the verses is wrong. Thus, hundreds of contradictions mean there are at least hundreds of incorrect statements in the Bible.

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses? 1. “And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam,” (39:12). 2. “When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.” (7:143). 3. “And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam,” (2:132).

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah As-Sajda: verse 2-3 32:2 [This is] the revelation of the Book about which there is no doubt from the Lord of the worlds. 32:3 Or do they say, "He invented it"? Rather, it is the truth from your Lord, [O Muḥammad], that you may warn a people to whom no warner has come before you [so] perhaps they will be guided. Qur’an Surah Al-'Ankabut: verse 45-49 29:45 Recite what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, ˹genuine˺ prayer should deter ˹one˺ from indecency and wickedness. The remembrance of Allah is ˹an˺ even greater ˹deterrent˺. And Allah ˹fully˺ knows what you ˹all˺ do. 29:46 Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.” *29:47** Similarly ˹to earlier messengers˺, We have revealed to you a Book ˹O Prophet˺. ˹The faithful of˺ those to whom We gave the Scriptures believe in it, as do some of these ˹pagan Arabs˺. And none denies Our revelations except the ˹stubborn˺ disbelievers.*

  • @generationsofmotivation9212

    @generationsofmotivation9212

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-om7ik6yv1wthis person does not answer questions, see how they avoided your question by qouting random verses in the Quran. I'm tempted to completey destroy this comment but I already did that in another one of their comments. They take out verses not knowing the context since the Bible is written like a story. And then they claim look this is contradictory when In fact they just look dumb to Chirstians who actually know the Bible and study it. It's typical, I debate a lot of muslims they will have excuses or lies even for abusing wife's or anything you can imagine as long as "Allah" wins in their eyes. Chirstian Prince on youtube completely destroys Muslims daily. Even their precious Muhammad Hijab looked dumb debating him lol.

  • @stephenhazeldene7719
    @stephenhazeldene77196 ай бұрын

    The Bible has been changed many times

  • @VCRider
    @VCRider6 ай бұрын

    So the Topkapi is the top copy ?

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah An-Nisa verse : 163-166 4:163 Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muḥammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And We revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants,1 Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms]. 4:164 And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech. 4:165 [We sent] messengers as bringers of good tidings and warners so that mankind will have no argument against Allah after the messengers. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. 4:166 But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness.

  • @user-om7ik6yv1w

    @user-om7ik6yv1w

    6 ай бұрын

    Is there or is there not compulsion in Islam according to the Qur’an? 1. “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” (2:256). 2. “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, - that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” (9:3). 3. “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” (9:5). 4. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” (9:29).

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-om7ik6yv1w ................ What you are giving are the verses relayed during the time of war. Of course, there is no compulsion in Islam. It's up to you if you chose Hell over Paradise. You have the free will to choose. But at least you are being warned about which option would you take. Obey Allah SWT and you'll go to Paradise and have an everlasting life there. Disobey him, reject His message in the Qur'an, then you'll go to Hell, and will have an everlasting life there. -12-14-25

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-om7ik6yv1w ................ What you are giving are the verses relayed during the time of war. Of course, there is no compulsion in Islam. It's up to you if you chose Hell over Paradise. You have the free will to choose. But at least you are being warned about which option would you take. Obey Allah SWT and you'll go to Paradise and have an everlasting life there. Disobey him, reject His message in the Qur'an, then you'll go to Hell, and will have an everlasting life there. -12-14-25

  • @iamthenotbenamed365
    @iamthenotbenamed3656 ай бұрын

    Change = Good, a Dia-Mond should be Polished ...

  • @josephmedina6403
    @josephmedina64036 ай бұрын

    The Quaran is form of historical documents ...so to say . History does not change. You cannot change what has already happened.

  • @pipitarfany3098
    @pipitarfany30986 ай бұрын

    *a claim that no christian can ever prove, while it is so easy if they are really sure, just show us what is changing?*

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Concerning the death of Judas, the disloyal disciple, Matthew 27:5 states he took the money he had received for betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and “went and hanged himself.” To the contrary, Acts 1:18 claims Judas used the money to purchase a field and “falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.” In describing Jesus being led to his execution, John 19:17 recounts that he carried his own cross. But Mark 15:21-23 disagrees by saying a man called Simon carried the cross. As for the crucifixion, Matthew 27:44 tells us Jesus was taunted by both criminals who were being crucified with him. But Luke 23:39-43 relates that only one of the criminals taunted Jesus, the other criminal rebuked the one who was doing the taunting, and Jesus told the criminal who was defending him, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

  • @generationsofmotivation9212

    @generationsofmotivation9212

    6 ай бұрын

    First off it's clear you don't read the Bible. You use Google for sure because these scriptures are easy for me to disprove as being contradictory and I'm not a scholar or Christian apologist. Matthew 27:5 clearly says in verses Matthew 27:7 and 27:8 that the priests took the money and bought a field with it that is named the field of Blood. And this was also a prophecy spoken by Jeremy in Matthew 27-9. So you take scripture out of context and don't even read the verses directly underneath it which is an issue for you. because Acts 1-18 is literally saying that Judahs betrayal of Jesus purchased a field with the reward of iniquity. Acts 1-19 and a Acts 1-20 which are directly under Acts 1:18 are clearly talking about the field that the priests bought with the coins judas threw down. In Matthew 27:7 and 27:8 Here it is clearly. Acts 1-19 " And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood." The exact same field the priests bought and named with the money Judas threw on the temple floor. So, it's referencing the field the priests bought in Matthew 27-8. The argument about the cross is pretty basic so it shows you dont study the Bible at all. Because Jesus carried the cross himself while being beaten, wiped and rocks being thrown at him. But Eventually, Jesus could no longer carry the cross himself due to the abuse and weakness that built up from the long walk with the cross, so Simon helped Jesus carry the cross the rest of the way. I dunno how you got that as being contradictory tbh. It's an entire story that isn't summed up in one or two verses you'd have to read it all to know what happened. Not just pick out verses and claim there contradictory without reading the book. Now as for Matthew 27-44 it shows you don't understand once again. Because Everyone was mocking Jesus on the way to the crucifixion spot this was before he was crucified including the two men. Luke 23:39-42 is taking place after Jesus and the 2 men were crucified. And one of the men next to Jesus believed unto Jesus as the Messiah and the other denied him. Jesus forgave the one who believed him its pretty simple. One of the men who just mocked him was forgiven right there on the spot when he believed Jesus. So again not contradictory

  • @noreenismail3832

    @noreenismail3832

    6 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-Baqarah: verse 78-79 2:78 And among them are the illiterate who know nothing about the Scripture except lies, and ˹so˺ they ˹wishfully˺ speculate. 2:79 So woe1 to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”-seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.

  • @noreenismail3832
    @noreenismail38326 ай бұрын

    Qur’an Surah Al-Baqarah: verse 212-213 2:212 The life of this world has been made appealing to the disbelievers, and they mock the believers. Those who are mindful ˹of Allah˺ will rank above them on the Day of Judgment. And Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit. *2:213 Humanity had once been one community ˹of believers before they lost faith˺. Then Allah raised prophets as deliverers of good news and as warners, and revealed to them the Scriptures in truth to judge among people regarding their disputes. And no one disputed the Scriptures except the very people who received them after clear proofs had come to them-out of jealousy. Then Allah, by His grace, has guided the believers to the truth regarding those disputes. And Allah guides whoever He wills to the Straight Path.*

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