Growing up in a Mormon home, leaving for me was never an option; my parents and church leaders made it clear that would be leaving God and following the "world". This was hammered into me every day and so I had a deep fear of ever leaving the church. How can anyone think this is healthy for a child? After leaving as an adult both my mental and physical health improved.. I really don't know how to give any better piece of evidence rather than my own personal life experiences to show that there's something wrong here.

@nicoletassin7307

5 ай бұрын

Same!! I had to go through the humiliation and shame of excommunication but thankful at the same time.

@gracebe235

5 ай бұрын

@sarahpinho1114…..I left January 2019…..pretty sure they are a church built on lies……but there is that 1% in the back of my cult brain-washed mind, that keeps bugging me…..making me constantly ask myself, if I was right to leave? I hate it! I just want to put it behind me once and for all! The programming must run DEEP!

@emjunker

5 ай бұрын

Same.

People should be able to leave at any time for any reason and not be called names like lazy learners. We shouldn’t have to prove to anyone that our reasons for leaving are legitimate. If it’s legitimate to us, then it’s legitimate. What a person believes about god, the purpose of life and the afterlife is very personal. We shouldn’t have to be subjected to attacks on our character when we make the decision to live our lives according to our own beliefs.

@trumpdanusan

5 ай бұрын

cult will not let you leave with your dignity

This is by far the BEST argument I've ever heard that the church is a cult.

Well thought out response Carah.

someone once said to me they believed the church wasn't a cult because they donated money to help the Krishna Temple in Salem, Utah back in the 90s... *eyeroll* cause a cult wouldn't donate money to another religion..

@LindyLime

5 ай бұрын

I'd actually say they made a pretty good argument there. Cults are entirely self-serving so it would make no sense for one to donate to a "competitor."

@Clara-eu3mp

5 ай бұрын

@@LindyLime sometimes it can be self-serving to donate to another group, especially if it improves the cult's reputation or helps deter criticism. The cult I was in showed respect for a limited number of similar groups.

@towardcivicliteracy

5 ай бұрын

@@Clara-eu3mp Maybe, but I don't really see much similarity between Krishna's and LDS, overall. Of course, there is common ground across almost all world religions. Messiah figures are common, one God common, a Trinity is common, flood stories, prayer, revelation or "enlightenment." Many things.

I grew up in the Anglican church, pretty mainstream religiously and I know I still struggled when I was 12/13 with deciding to not participate anymore. I remember crying and feeling so scared of hell. I can't imagine how much worse that would be with something like Mormonism where it takes up your ENTIRE life. My thing with the "everything can be a cult" argument they were trying to make is, this argument doesn't hold water because other things that have cult like followings or fandoms don't try to stop you from leaving. I found it really galling that they used the language "someone suggested that I live a certain way" because we all know that's not what Mormonism is. You aren't allowed to just take things as suggestions. If that were the case, there wouldn't be all these "worthiness" tests and prying into people's lives.

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

Mormons don't believe in hell, so we don't frighten people into staying.

@Themanyfacesofego

5 ай бұрын

I sometimes go to the Anglican Church. It's a very gentle faith.

@LindyLime

5 ай бұрын

We don't even freaking believe in hell (not in the way other churches do)

@Pippins666

5 ай бұрын

I was an active Anglican until age 42, and it certainly was pretty gentle. 35 years an atheist, I still enjoy singing hymns and am friends with several retired vicars

@Themanyfacesofego

5 ай бұрын

@@LindyLime True. I think it was about 30 years ago we retreated from that belief.

I was brought up in a very nuanced Mormon family. I was given the ability to choose. My current belief system pretty much matches Cara's.

Mountain Meadows Massacre

@lorinapetranova2607

5 ай бұрын

Enslavement of Apache children. Documented. Congressional Records.

All religions are cults, but some cults are more disgusting than others. I leave it to others to decide where Mormonism lies in the hierarchy of cultishness - definitely below Scientology - but not by much. Evil exists - but to be truly evil requires a religion

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

I am compelled to agree with your observations

@lorinapetranova2607

5 ай бұрын

Don't insult Buddhism it's definitely Not a cult n closer to a philosophy. Islam is not a cult. There are Eastern religions that are absolutely Not cults. Many blessings.

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

@@lorinapetranova2607 true that. I tend to like Hinduism due to it's mathematical idea of the age of this earth and mankind. Makes better sense to me, at least

@AS72831

5 ай бұрын

@@lorinapetranova2607Islam not a cult? You’re kidding right? Absolute control over how a person lives. Sex out of wedlock, even if raped can lead to being stoned or drowned. Only if a woman of course. There’s no punishment for the man. Islam is very similar to Mormonism. Patriarchal and shaming. Culty as culty can be.

I thought they all left because of John, lol! Those guys give John a lot of power

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

By the power of John, I was compelled, LOL

@theatreguy1850

5 ай бұрын

Not all did because of John. There are many other antimos that helped too.

@autumn5852

5 ай бұрын

@@bewitched3912 lol 👍🏽

@autumn5852

5 ай бұрын

@@theatreguy1850 are you saying Mormons can’t think for themselves and have to have someone like John telling them what to do? If that’s true, that Mormon brainwashing is stronger than I thought 😳

From what I’ve learned and observed… absolutely yes. A cult!

LDS leaders constantly speak in general conference in terms of the church and Jesus himself being synonymous. If your in good standing with the church your in good standing with Jesus, and if you leave the church your leaving Jesus . That is why the greatest penalties in Mormonism ( outer darkness ) are reserved for those who leave ( apostates ), who in their view you are an apostate of Jesus . Many or most who leave Mormonism go atheist . This Authoritarianism IS CULT STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.

@towardcivicliteracy

5 ай бұрын

Haha. Basic doctrinal knowledge fail. Which actually means no outer darkness for you. You’ve failed to qualify.

Spot on Carah!!

$cientology does the exact same thing. As someone who is dealing with my partner's family disconnecting from him. A twin fucking brother....no contact. For their future zillion years. They don't even believe in God. Their God is money. Power. Control. Money power control. Excellent points. You're such a good egg. I really like your podcasts Thank you

@trumpdanusan

5 ай бұрын

contracts lds sign and date them too

Well done!

Nuancehoe I have not officially left the Mormon church but I plan on it. I am in love with a woman in the Church and she has Stockholm syndrome just like I did and I might as well leave her alone now. This is making me deeply depressed.

@green97probe

5 ай бұрын

Run and don't look back. Dating a woman in the church is a recipe for disaster. She only wants you for children. I learned that the hard way.

I always think to know if any organization is a cult, simply ask the indoctrinated members!

If it walks like a 🦆& talks like a 🦆 , it’s probably a freakin’ 🦆 !! 😀

@mylesmarkson1686

5 ай бұрын

And don't forget the green poop... That's how I can always tell that ducks have been hanging around is by all of the green poop that has matriculated to the bottom of my shoes!

My family was kicked out of the LDS because I was questioning the Book of Mormon and the Bishop. I'm thankful my mom had my back instead of reprimanding me which caused my family to be kicked out when we needed help the most.

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

They don't kick you out for questioning and certainly not the whole family.

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

​@@NancyBrown-xw8hgif a whole family is against Kirtand McConkie lawyers defending child sex abusers, sure they would 😅

@AS72831

5 ай бұрын

@@NancyBrown-xw8hgthey obviously do as per this persons comment. There is so much inconsistency among different wards/stakes. What one is exed for another isn’t. Look at Charlie Bird and his husband. Other gay married people are exed, not them, they have callings. There is definitely less ex ing nowadays because of dwindling church numbers.

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

​@@AS72831 Ive been a member for 65 years, a whole family does not kit ex-ed. Now the whole family might walk out holding hands, that does happen, but they weren't kicked out.

I love having discovered you recently. Only listened to a couple other videos though and starting this one. I'm foundry family from Salt Lake. What a relief to hear the uprising coming from within, especially from fellow Sisters and other Women. I'd really like to have a good long conversation with you, and share the damning evidence that has been revealed about how Mormonism is absolutely binding everyone to Satan, by the "promising" to follow "the[eir] commandments"... and if we don't, we accept (volunteer) to be Satan's. Utterly insane how many are not seeing that we have all "signed contracts" with the Devil.. not with Our Father.. As early as 8 when getting "baptized". What child can be accountable to agreeing to belong to the Deceiver [of] the World??? Here we go the time is at hand

@Mommadragon1976

5 ай бұрын

It's important to remember that satan is a defeated foe.

@SpartacusMA1

5 ай бұрын

You might be surprised to learn that there's just as much evidence for this Satan and "the end is near" nonsense as there is for the truthfulness of the book of Mormon.

@aerinauraviel6590

5 ай бұрын

@@SpartacusMA1 it's essential to be clear about one's own biases of belief that could distort, twist, or mis-interpret evidence based on a perception which limits possibility, even lending to cognitive dissonance; when looking at things scientifically, according to a "scientific method", and BE*ing a scientist. 🌠🌠🌠 If we are aiming for revealing TRUTH. The kind of "Umtimate TRUTH" that cannot be corrupted or distorted or change in its most essential elements and essence, no matter how much Fire of our skepticism and questioning, and testing, we put upon it and subject it to. Seeking for that which is most 'Noble'. We have to proof it 🙌❤️‍🔥🙌 To respond more specifically to your comment.. I have seen just as much evidence that we are likely very confused about what we think we know, what the stories say/mean, and even, what the words actually say/mean; as that we don't even know what we are looking at, or what False Authority and False Power "are"/"is", and REALLY means.. for us all, the Earth, this Life, and all which is Sacred, Holy and Divine. 🙏🌹🕊

@SpartacusMA1

5 ай бұрын

@@aerinauraviel6590 you said exactly jack shit. I would think that if you were a scientist you'd be using clear language instead of Deepak word salad. Clarifying biases isn't very useful if you can't even communicate clearly.

@aerinauraviel6590

5 ай бұрын

@@SpartacusMA1 😂💦 You just proofed my point with your bias and baseless accusations.✌️ Sounding as though you took some kind of personal offense which then you used to justify a kind of attack against me, personally. Anyone can name-call, it doesn't "scream" intelligence. Quite the opposite, in fact. Peace

"One of the things that really stands out about a cult is not allowing anyone to leave with dignity. Can you tell who your favorite post-Mormons are and the typical way you describe post-Mormons publicly on your show?"

Once you break out of the bubble and your eyes are open to the truth, you ask yourself why was I believing that crap for so long ?!!

Every time she talks I learn something🤗

Looking great? Check! Being smart? Check! ❤❤❤

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Perfecting ways to keep people in a religion.

If jesus has not returned yet, why the Joseph Smith story? The aaronic priesthood was jewish and obsolete. It was used for animal sacrifice. The melchizedek priesthood was canaanite and only held by melchizedek and jesus. The letter j symbol and sound did not exist in any language over 500 years ago. So no jesus, John, Jeremiah, Joseph, ect.

@Clara-eu3mp

5 ай бұрын

The letter didn't exist to represent the sound, but the sound absolutely did exist, though not in every language.

Is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints a cult? Yes, yes it is

How are you defining "cult"?

Bring me on your show. I’d be happy to answer what I can’t answer. 😂. Btw, I actually agree that many of your criticisms have some legitimacy, but I’m still a believer in the Restored Gospel, in general.

@trumpdanusan

5 ай бұрын

notbing needed restoring what purpose Jesus coming 2000 years ago?

cults needs pr department, spin machine. Titles used by Cults call him Nelson dood

I really don't understand why you leave so many crap comments up from hateful mormons on your channel.

Motmons and muslims seem to have a lot of common points

It's a cult for sure.

They always attack the word of God they have a special revelation

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

They always defend child molestors with special revelation of an un-named apparition with flaming sword to convince grown-assed married men to shag teenagers was somehow godly is pure horseshit.

Guess I've been blocked, no free thinking here.😮

@CarahBurrell

5 ай бұрын

You have?

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

@@CarahBurrell figured out it was KZread, I talk to much. However there are two postings that have never shown up, why is that?

You mean like how we believe that if people leave our church they will still in all likelihood go to a heaven that is glorious beyond all comprehension? We're so good at fear tactics!

@katiecrozier3179

5 ай бұрын

That's not what the temple teaches

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

@@katiecrozier3179 We don't even believe in a hell, spirit prison yes. A person will go there for a time to pay for their own sins, not a pleasant experience I'm told. Then they will be resurrected and obtain a glory, they will not enter God's presence but they will be happy. God is not an ogre, he has no desire to see his children suffer.

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

Isn't it amazing, all the disinformation being thrown about.😵‍💫

@SpartacusMA1

5 ай бұрын

I guess you haven't heard about apostates. 🤔

@bewitched3912

5 ай бұрын

​@@katiecrozier3179since Hitler was posthumously baptized six times, whatever point you wanted to make is moot

yeah...hmm...this is feeling like a really subtle pipeline...you say and post the right things in clips. i dunno, im a propaganda vibe.

Your argument is, as summed up at the end, why are God’s rules something You agree with? Again, don’t like the religious beliefs of a group, then don’t stay or join that group! The “Rules” of the LDS church, are no different than Catholics, or other Christians…to say so is just being ignorant of other paths. Also, no LDS member is going to say another Christian believer is going to Hell, again cause LDS does not have “Hell”. And I have heard more talk of Jesus’s “if not against us” speech from the pulpit than”we are right”

@EchoesfromtheTabernacle

5 ай бұрын

You don't get to declare your religion is the same as everyone else as a shield. None of your references are controlling to the point of those other religions prescribing underwear. Plenty of members have judged non members and Christians to hell or the Terrestrial and telestial kingdoms.

@chlyri

5 ай бұрын

the rules actually are different. pay to play, for one. those temple ordinances that have had to change because people weren't comfortable, and the "anything that isn't faith promoting is anti- mormon, so you can't look at it!" rule.

@Freerangemormon

5 ай бұрын

@@EchoesfromtheTabernacle nope, Just hats, face coverings, and for priests, daily outerwear. Also, you can hardly call either of those “hell”, as the word is usually used and she knows it, but uses it for shock factor. Also think an interview to go to the Temple is rough? How about going to confession every week, and telling a priest everything you did wrong, and then given a “punishment”of prayer for it, based on his discretion. Also, this is taught to the children as well, and they are expected to do the same, Each week. So yes, as I said to argue that the LDS church is somehow different is being ignorant of the similarities between other faiths.

@Freerangemormon

5 ай бұрын

@@chlyri interesting argument on the “pay to play”….never have I seen a collection plate on a stick shoved in front of someone before sacrament was given, as a matter of fact I have accompanied a friend to Catholic Church many times this week, and From Ash Wednesday, the Thursday mass, And the Friday Stations of the Cross service, and Saturday Vigil all had point which in-front of the group, you “had to give”, as a matter of fact they even gave a out a bowl for you to fill at home and bring back at the end of lent. As far as “non-faith promoting”, the actual suggestion is to just stay away from the negative “worldly” nonsense that is prevalent in today’s world. How many business leaders, or secular therapists have suggested to “stay off social media”? Or “don’t watch the news”? Are they trying to control your thoughts or just trying to help stop the cycle of BS feed to people today? So change to help people “feel more comfortable” is bad? Weird concept, so I suppose again the Catholics should ditch the English masses and go back to Latin a Language few speak in daily life. Also, should lose the little “worship band” that most have now instead of a choir? These were all things added to make folks “more comfortable”. What is or is not socially acceptable, changes, and with that what people think is appropriate changes.

@Clara-eu3mp

5 ай бұрын

If the rules are no different from other Christians, then why would the LDS consider itself the only true church?

The word cult is a trigger word, it's used to frighten and degrade. However I'm very happy to belong to the best cult ever.

@sarahpinho1114

5 ай бұрын

When I was a member some people said I belonged to a cult, and now I see why they said that. Most of the world can see the red flags, but it's really hard to see it when you're in.

@jessea2871

5 ай бұрын

by what standard are you judging what the best cult is? have you been in several??

@Lomochenko

5 ай бұрын

Keep cultin. Keep chanting silly phrases in the temple. Nobody cares.

@NancyBrown-xw8hg

5 ай бұрын

@@jessea2871 Well in my wonderful cult if I get sick dinners show up at my door. If my hubby were to lose his job we would get free food and they'll pay my electric bill. I have a ministering brother who comes and takes my garbage out to the street for me and in the winter he shovels the snow. Once a week my teenagers would disappear to go to some wholesome activity. In the summer they go to camp and have a lot of fun. We have wonderful Christmas parties and in the summer we have a big barbeque. We can use the building for free, weddings and funerals free. The Bishop doesn't even charge a fee, at funerals even the food is free. If I move a group will help me pack up the truck. They have a wonderful education system called pathways where people can get a degree from BYU-Idaho online, at very little cost. We have an employment center where they help you find a job or start a business. There are lots of opportunities to serve others an we get together once a week to sing and praise the Lord. The greatest blessing is the peace we find in our lives.

@EchoesfromtheTabernacle

5 ай бұрын

Jehovah's witnesses disagree with you.