Olivia Coleman's nuanced acting here is brilliant. She says so much just by giving a certain look, or nodding her head a certain way. A pleasure to watch.

@KrisKk08

25 күн бұрын

Tobias Menzies and Olivia Coleman are powerhouse actors here. Watching them is like watching a beautiful masterful work of art. Chefs kiss !

Tobias Menzies does such a good job at portraying an older Matt Smith

@nikhilpatel7832

26 күн бұрын

Matt Smith mate

@arthurteixeira9866

26 күн бұрын

@@nikhilpatel7832 good lord, thank you!

@KrisKk08

25 күн бұрын

They are a powerhouse acting team!

@blehbleh8143

21 күн бұрын

And the way both of them acted in a universe by George R. R. Martin!

@melissacarterpresley5786

17 күн бұрын

@nikhilpatel7832, Get a life.

Prince Philip didn't understand that it isn't so easy to sort yourself out as an adult when you've been emotionally damaged as a child. A good therapist and a lot of diligent work can get you there, though. Everyone deserves to have this, too.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

I would say that Philip had a rather "damaging" childhood. At least concerning his parents. A father (Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark) who had absconded with the family's money to live with his mistress in southern France; a mother (née Princess Alice of Battenberg --who was known as Princess Andrew of Greece and Denmark) had been declared insane and institutionalized for several years after her husband's abandonment. Prince Philip , Duke of Edinburgh, and his 4 older sisters were raised by their maternal grandparents; " *Louis Alexander Mountbatten, 1st Marquess of* *Milford Haven* (1854 - 1921), formerly Prince Louis Alexander of Battenberg, was a British naval officer and German prince related by marriage to the British royal family." --- Wikipedia AND " *Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine*, then [as] Princess Louis of Battenberg, later Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of Milford Haven (1863 -1950), [who] was the eldest daughter of Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse and by Rhine, and Princess Alice of the United Kingdom, daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha." -- Wikipedia After his grandfather died, he was raised by his grandmother and spent his holidays with the Mountbatten Prince Philip's maternal aunt was the Queen of Sweden. He didn't see her much.

@Pdmc-vu5gj

20 күн бұрын

Neither Philip nor Elizabeth came from a generation that had a grasp of psychology and therapy.

@here_we_go_again2571

20 күн бұрын

@@Pdmc-vu5gj Exactly! That generation just gritted their teeth and carried on, as did their parents' generation and many generations before them. Survival was the name of the game for most people throughout mankind's' history

@marywenzel3199

20 күн бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 When we think of what the people of that Greatest Generation went through, it’s small wonder that they didn’t value talking about “feelings” much. That way lay dragons. The only way to keep standing and sloughing through an often terrible set of circumstances without giving into despair and having it take them down was to bury the pain of loss deep and keep buggering on with things they could control. This was for physical survival but also for mental survival. Elizabeth and Philip came from privileged backgrounds, but even they experienced the deprivations and uncertainty of war. Philip essentially lost both of his parents at a very tender age And suffered further loss when his sister and her entire family perished in a plane crash. Homeless, penniless…devoid of his family. A person in that situation has two choices: Knuckle down and become an incredibly strong character, Teflon…. Or go to pieces and lose his mind and maybe end his own life. Philip chose the former course and his children paid the price for that, principally his eldest. But what a colorful life he had and he really turned the basically constitutionally meaningless job of consort into a life of purpose. As for Elizabeth, she was emotionally distant for different reasons. I suspect her emotional detachment came from possibly mildly autistic tendencies as we would call it now, or possibly Emotional retreat was her personal way of coping with her overbearing narcissistic mother. Despite the idyllic pictures of childhood presented by the media, I think Lilibet and Margaret were under their mother’s thumb all their lives. Their dear Papa Doted on them but his wife wore the pants in the family. The lady who terrified Adolf Hitler would certainly have been formidable in her own family circle. Charles was spoiled by this grandma, and her smothering love didn’t do his character many favors. He had the misfortune to be an emotionally needy child born to two emotionally unavailable parents. In every respect Britain might’ve been better off if his sister Anne had been born to be the Queen. There are distinct advantages to not being a pile of emotional mush when one has to wear a Crown.

@carmencollor1224

18 күн бұрын

He didn't? With his own personal history? He certainly did.

It's really sad that the kids' immediate reaction to a simple invitation is "What have I done now?" or if there is bad news, showing the kind of relationship they had with Elizabeth.

@bananamanchester4156

25 күн бұрын

Indeed! It really struck me when Andrew was the only one who met her with a wide, happy smile. He knew how to charm and m*nipulate her, certainly, but there is also the distinct feeling that he's the only one who feels a real connection with her, to the point where he WANTS to see her, and doesn't question why she wants to see him. Shame about the real life Andrew, of course :/

@mck2021

19 күн бұрын

Remember that The Crown is a dramatisation, not a documentary.

@bananamanchester4156

18 күн бұрын

@@mck2021 there's always one 😅 WE KNOW DEAR.

@KarmicSalt

17 күн бұрын

you do know this is crap

@gox8468

16 күн бұрын

Since when do we censor the word manipulate????

These two are powerhouse actors. My god it’s like looking at a beautiful masterful piece of art.

What makes me sad is that Philip didn’t even try to defend Charles. He just said that he has always been lost. It is sad that his relationship with his eldest son and child is that damaged.

@lordalessan

26 күн бұрын

At least he redeemed himself by encouraging William to make peace with Charles.

@robertisham5279

26 күн бұрын

Did he actually say that about Charles in real life?

@jasonkoch3182

26 күн бұрын

It’s a television show. There’s little doubt that Charles and Philip had a rough relationship but this conversation is entirely fictional, scripted for an excellent drama but nothing more.

@jasonkoch3182

26 күн бұрын

@@robertisham5279never publicly. This was an entirely fictional conversation.

@jasonkoch3182

26 күн бұрын

@@lordalessanin the show. But don’t forget this is entirely fictional, scripted entirely for an excellent television show but nothing more.

This honestly sounds like prolonged postpartum depression to me..

@mikeconnolly6845

26 күн бұрын

she never had the time to be a mother to her young children, Charles wasn’t even three when George VI first became ill and Elizabeth was taking over many of his duties. I do think her relationship with all her children improved by her eighties and definitely in her nineties, but it was so tough to be given such a responsibility at just 25.

@gein87

26 күн бұрын

Everything is "depression" nowadays 🙄😑

@xyinterrupted

25 күн бұрын

​@@gein87 Or...it might be better mental health literacy. Just a thought ✌️

@Francesca.C.

24 күн бұрын

​@@gein87 I agree with you

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

@@gein87 People felt depressed back then too. They just coped with it in different ways. Including some, being institutionalized, if their coping skills were poor OR their depression very deep (melancolia)

Unfortunately, the late Queen was not exactly June Cleaver. This trait of not really feeling a lot for your kids can be inherited. Queen Mary was famous for being a horrible mother with little natural affection for them. And she was Elizabeth's grandmother.

@lesleyschultz6846

24 күн бұрын

Queen Victoria didn't like her children much either, particular her eldest son, whom she blamed for her beloved Albert's death. She said and wrote terrible things about her children and treated some with great cruelty. But her mother was a horrible mother too.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

@ KrisKk08 Personality traits can be inherited. I think that HMTQ just needed a pre-natal class or two or three to get the hang of it. But back then, nobody did that sort of thing; unless a class was for poor people whom society assumed did not know how to care for their children. Skip forward two generations; I remember Catherine and William having some sort of sessions with pre-delivery/ pre-natal nurses Also, William was an EMT and EMT pilot. Charles did change William's and Harry's diapers. I think if the marriage had not been so fractious that he would have spent more time with the boys. I somehow can't invision Prince Philip changing nappies. BUT he was a royal naval officer who had served on a combat ship during WW2 -- So he might have been able to do it.😁

@jenniferdaniels701

22 күн бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 And I'm sure becoming a queen at 25, with two toddlers didn't help. Didn't she and Philip go on a world tour for a long time shortly after becoming queen? How can a kid not feel abandoned when your parents are suddenly traveling the world and too busy for you. If she could have been a mother as heir for more years, raised her children to an age where they could understand what was going on and why things changed the way they did...

@here_we_go_again2571

22 күн бұрын

@@jenniferdaniels701 Yes that Commonwealth tour(s) was what George VI and his consort were planning on doing before he became ill. The Commonwealth (a trading and cultural bloc) was George VI's pet, post-WW2 project. It still is a great idea.

@jenniferdaniels701

22 күн бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 I think it's a good idea, too. But the timing of the tour wasn't good for the family as a family. As The Firm, it was business as usual- George VI can't make it, okay, send in his replacement, Elizabeth II.

It's hilarious that Philip compliments Liz on having been a largely absent parent.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

Philip truly loved Elizabeth. What do you expect him to say? "Yeah you messed up?" *No!* He tried to ease her pain and anxiety. There was nothing she could do at that time about things that happened years before!

@TrackerNeil

23 күн бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 There's another option; he could suggest they do better from that moment on.

@A_R_888

22 күн бұрын

A woman who has clearly been the child/grandchild of emotionally remote mothers could not offer her own children what she never had. Elizabeth did the best she could with this limitation and her adult children came to appreciate this.

She made up for it by being the Best Grandmother she could be.

@laurelgardner

20 күн бұрын

She tried to keep her grandchildren away from their mother's funeral.

@dsatt57

16 күн бұрын

Considering how much Harry didn’t want to walk and how angry it made him being forced, she was right. I remember thinking at the time it was cruel for them to have to walk having suddenly lost their mother. It was child abuse, they were children! They shouldn’t have been put on public display.

With the right spouses Charles, Anne and Edward turned out all right. Poor Andrew is the spoiled brat who is hopelessly lost.

@victoriafrost5461

24 күн бұрын

That's very true.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

Andrew never would have stood for a woman who tried to dominate him. Fergie just "went with the flow" Neither of them are deep thinkers.

@Pisti846

23 күн бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 Huh? Camilla SUPPORTS HM. Catherine supports William.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

@@Pisti846 Yes, Camilla, unlike Diana, supports Charles! Catherine supports Wiliam and Sophie supports Edward. Even Fergie supports Andrew (they have remained friends over the years) Princess Anne's husband is also very supportive of her and vice versa.

@tiararoxeanne1318

23 күн бұрын

​@@here_we_go_again2571Diana supported Charles, but she didn't allow him to have a mistress. Fergie didn't care about Andrew sexcapades because she did so herself. If these facts made you think Fergie was the supportive spouse instead of Diana, I pity the person who would become your spouse.

Very entertaining. Wonderful acting. but no one can know which topics Elizabeth and Phillip discussed in private, let alone the jist of their conversations.

@kittykatz4001

21 күн бұрын

This isn’t a documentary.

@ssmith6870

16 күн бұрын

I think we do know that it was never this topic.

@ianhudson7350

15 күн бұрын

MOST of this show is contrived..... May God rest our Queen for a job incredibly well done.

@hutch1197

13 күн бұрын

@@kittykatz4001 It's not a documentary??? Oh my God!!! How on earth did you figure that out? And thank you for being the first person (and not the MILLIONTH person) to point this out in the comments section. Thank you for sharing with us your superior ability to see these things. You are an impressively intelligent person.

They never had a chance. They didn't have a mother, they had a monarch.

@MsJubjubbird

26 күн бұрын

Anne said she had very loving parents. Just they were away a lot.

@cje3247

26 күн бұрын

@@MsJubjubbirdYou can’t be “loving” if you aren’t there.

@cje3247

26 күн бұрын

Agree. 💯

@dalemcspadden943

26 күн бұрын

Harsh

@MsJubjubbird

25 күн бұрын

@@cje3247 she means that when they were there, they were very involved and nurturing. In an interview she was talking about the bedtime stories her father would come up with and such. And they sent letters and things when they were away. Just their jobs required them to travel

Philip knew that she was right, but there was no point in him pressing the point further because it would hardly have helped her to blame herself. It was too late for regrets: what was done was done, and no remorse or depression was going to change facts. She was a prisoner of her time and always went with the flow and buried her head in the sand hoping that problems would magically disappear if she didn't look at them. She had neither the strength, nor the education that would have allowed her to stand up to those bullies like Churchill or Lascelles, who shaped the first years of her reign and set her up for a disastrous approach to family life.

@thetruthhurts7675

26 күн бұрын

This conversation NEVER happened, it is an entirely fictional event, scripted by the writer's immagination for the TV show. You then like some silly little school child try to make something of fiction about the royal Family. Foolish, foolish child!

@michaelplunkett8059

24 күн бұрын

Alas, she had a job to do that did NOT allow ignoring her ministers. She provided a supportive upbringing as she had received. Given the post 1960 social prbadly. of society, she didn't do too bafly.

I feel like Andrew was bred of a mom who spoiled him, a racist dad, all the money in the world, and a family unit that rarely showed loving affection. Lethal combination.

Stick around and keep breathing...for all our sakes. Truer words...

For “royalty”, they lose some of their humanity.

@kaviyaprabharan1832

26 күн бұрын

Not some but 99 %humanity out of 100%

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

@ tconcotelli If her father had lived longer; and if the world situation post- WW2 and during the earliest days of the Commonwealth had been more peaceful (i.e. no Cold War with Joe Stalin threatening to take over Europe and China going Communist) the situation would have been very different for Elizabeth II. She loved being a naval officer's wife and she made quite a few friends (and had a "normal" life) when she was only Princess Elizabeth.

Her strength and stay.....

It’s crazy cause her mother and the king were so involved so how when and where did it not translate for her

@sarahudson108

19 күн бұрын

When Charles and Anne were little , she was busy starting her reign, she was the original working mum , by the time Andrew and Edward were born in the 1960's she was able to spend more time with them, No parent is perfect but all four knew their mum loved them .

@cynthiachengmintz672

16 күн бұрын

@@sarahudson108yet Andrew turned out to be the one with the most issues in real life.

@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254

14 күн бұрын

​@sarahudson108 Please she sent them to live with her parents and Margaret while Philip was in the Navy

EDWARD turned out fine..... and now that CHARLES has CAMILA by his side , he is doing great

@blitzmom2674

22 күн бұрын

He's a totalitarian WEF hypocrite.

@rhyfeddu

12 күн бұрын

😬

Apparently there are many scales of poverty.Not just monetary scale.

En cual cabeza puede caber.. hacerle saber a un hijo que : "su hermano es el hijo preferido de su madre...." tanto lujo y tanto dinero, para tan poca educación y mínima sabiduría....!!!

What a pitiful lot they are. Just one constant, long, never-ending car crash.

@jonathanslater1397

26 күн бұрын

What a ridiculous system to make a family so insanely privileged but also so intensely miserable.

@cje3247

26 күн бұрын

William and his family are fine.

@KrisKk08

25 күн бұрын

These two are such powerhouse actors, we forget it’s not the real Royal family. Coleman and Menzies are chefs kiss 😘

Remember she was 26yo when she became Queen. She was the youngest world leader and Head of an Empire. On top of all that she had to be a mother as well. All because of a responsibility forced on her by a selfish, irresponsible, disloyal uncle Edward III, a man with no honour. Her Late Majesty carried the Nation and The Commonwealth on her back for 70 years. May God give her a well-deserved rest.

@oyaami1874

5 күн бұрын

I think you will find that is was the commonwealth who carried the british, including the royals on their backs.

Yeah. I don't believe they had any kind of self revelations about the grim parenting or that they ever had a conversation like this.

It’s a script. A story. Fiction!

@sarahjones-jf4pr

24 күн бұрын

This is but the real Family is exactly like this.

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

Historical Fiction = To fill in the gaps from diaries, testimonies, interviews, etc.. Not historical fact -- A blending of fact and fiction.

It's fiction!! 😂😂

Gente esse homem é lindo demais pra mim ganha de longe dos outros dois principes Philip esse ultimo foi o pior, chato pra um caramba

¡Hola, buenas tardes! ⛅

Favorite child, lol!! Shouldn't be sth like that. Philip triggered the point of who the "champ" is the Coleman(Elizabeth) is more divided between being a mother and Queen. Like the mistakes i made in the youth(2 firsts) the repairing with the next one's 2.0 but seem worried with the road are taken at that time line!! My opinion is before death and facing God judgement there's no much place of favorites, more like a soul how can be saved and pass the other kingdom, the "Kingdom of Heaven".

What about Andrew? Has he changed?

@here_we_go_again2571

23 күн бұрын

No. Andrew was always a spoilt, entitled brat. Philip was chiefly concerned with Charles and Anne. Elizabeth busied herself with the younger two boys. Philip did not neglect Andrew or Edward, but they came along several years after Charles and Anne. Philip was not overly involved with the younger two boys. As they grew older, they also bonded with him.

@caterpillar1936

7 күн бұрын

Andrew had to settle out of a trial of sexual assault against minors. I would say no.

You do realise that none of the private conversations actually happened? Why speculate on what is essentially a fictional account of conversations that no one knows if they even happened, let alone who said what to whom. The makers of the series have repeatedly refused to put a disclaimer at the beginning of each show stating that the show is a work of fiction as they believe people understand that they made up these private scenes and conversations for dramatic purposes. Apparently not if some of the comments here are an example.

Let’s face it - they were terrible parents.

How could parents have a favorite child, how awful is that!

@honinakecheta601

21 күн бұрын

Every parent has a favorite child that is just reality lol

@nikunjdixit1175

19 күн бұрын

Like Philip said, any honest parent will admit to having a favorite child. That doesn't mean that you don't love the other children.

@lisaseatle4965

16 күн бұрын

I think everyone has a favourite. That’s pretty normal

in days of social media thoughts like - Am/Was I good mother appear fashionable. Outside of social media such bull crap did not exist. The bond between child and mother is unique. It is something that is business of the child and the mother alone. Others opinion do not matter in this case.

@Elizabeth-tq7qw

26 күн бұрын

Sadly, mothers have been hurting themselves with the “was/am I a good mother” question for much longer than social media has been around. Well, at least in the U.S., which is where my experience is. It seemed like that question started in the last two decades of the 20th century (for the U.S.). But I agree that social media has made it worse.

@iracture

26 күн бұрын

@@Elizabeth-tq7qw Thats same as asking one self am I best version of myself - its part of continuous improvement. What social media has done is forced mothers to look at mothers around them and then judge themselves based on others experiences of motherhood. That is so so sick at every level. Every mum-child relationship is unique. The twinkle in ur childs eyes will communicate, the trust the child places in u..the bond u feel towards the child will tell u whether u experienced the joys of motherhood...nothing else..

@MsJubjubbird

26 күн бұрын

Before social media there were the magazines. I am sure most parents do the best job they can.

@cje3247

26 күн бұрын

@@MsJubjubbirdNot all.

@iracture

26 күн бұрын

@@MsJubjubbird really..I thought this was due to social media invention. Too much intrusion into what is very a private thing. Some parents have stronger nesting instinct than others. Not sure what these magazines and social media channels are selling and why do they find an audience.

Jesus ANDREW was the favorite? If there is any truth to this then that explains…a lot.

Very awkward scene. There's no chemistry whatsoever. They are completely strangers forced to act. Such rusty feeling overwhelms that room like toxic smoke from the cigars.

Who gives a f?

Very awkward scene. There's no chemistry here whatsoever. They are completely strangers forced to act. Such rusty feeling overwhelms that room like toxic smoke from ghe cigars.