Worth mentioning that pre “Draft/Set” booster era, NO ONE WAS CRYING FOR A CHANGE. WotC wants more money. Fuck them and fuck their Admin team. Sorry for my passion but I love this game.

@sambrown9475

18 күн бұрын

Your passion is appreciated. Keep that anger. Nothing will change otherwise

@fettuccineinme

18 күн бұрын

There was people wanting packs with more Rares for the sake of the secondary market and the environment. Consider its very possible to open up a box of 36 packs and it doesn't have a specific Rare and/or Mythic you need for your deck. And you need a playset of that. How much actual paper and plastic waste needs to be produced just so that 1 playset of a playable card is produced? And then think about the growing playerbase in which thousands of players want that playset for their decks. That being said, this is not what they wanted.

@tcgdarren5865

18 күн бұрын

​@@sambrown9475all the passion in the world doesn't mean anything if we keep giving them money

@malockssomexmastodon4615

18 күн бұрын

@@fettuccineinme I feel like their shouldn't be the rarity system. Like if you could only play with commons and uncommons the game would be a lot more affordable, but a lot of the fun cards are rare, and the card pool is halved which really matters for standard. Otherwise the only way to play this game is to be rich or proxying a ton of cards

@JohnFromAccounting

17 күн бұрын

When there was only one type of booster pack, everyone was fine with that. Nobody wanted change because it was a good system.

This is a terrible product

@Kikasitsu

18 күн бұрын

Hasbro tries to monetize D&D, but player base said “NO.” Hasbro’s *primary* purpose is a Toy Company brand, but ADULTS tend to buy their toys, as Kids don’t usually buy toys anymore. Hasbro gets Wizards to monetize Magic, as Magic is THE OTHER PROFITABLE IP that they have - outside of D&D… (Notice where the problem now lies?)

@marcoottina654

17 күн бұрын

This "product" is an insult to anyone equipped with a brain

@unything2696

17 күн бұрын

This terrible is a product.

To quote Voxy "I feel like im losing my fucking mind. did we not just scrap set boosters and draft boosters turning them into play boosters because all the diff kinds of packs were confusing people??? why are we REGRESSING?? you FIXED IT. why are you UNDOING THE FIXING"

"Dollar store booster pack" is an insane comparison, and i wish you were wrong 🤣😭

@margaretjones2585

18 күн бұрын

Those at least come with a rare and enough cards to pseudo chaos draft

@DeiselsFaded

16 күн бұрын

​@@margaretjones2585yeah these are unironically somehow worse than dollar store booster packs

@timothyquinn4919

15 күн бұрын

you know this is going to be a 3 dolar pack because thats where we are at now.

"full spoiler season" has no meaning, we are always being spoiled cards for sets every week, or at least that's how it feels

Sure, a Rare's a Rare, but a wild card could be anything! it could even be a rare!

@ryanderenbecker8837

17 күн бұрын

So let's take the rare?

@austinchuilli3652

16 күн бұрын

@@ryanderenbecker8837 I don't know you don't get the value of excitement if you get the random rare. I vote wildcard here.

@ryanderenbecker8837

16 күн бұрын

@@austinchuilli3652 Ok, but a wildcard can also NOT be a rare, so... Let's take the thing that's a known rare. In the words of Robert Downey Jr, "never go full Peter Griffin."

"we're now in spoiler season" Are we ever not?

Bruh We had set then booster Then beyond and play Now we got *VALUE* PICK A LANE WOTC

@sambrown9475

18 күн бұрын

PREACH!!!

@WindchaserX

17 күн бұрын

You mean Epilogue, Beyond, and Value.

Maybe if it was $1 and draftable I’d buy packs without rares, but it’s neither of those

@Vagabonds-Corner

6 күн бұрын

@@margaretjones2585 that’s the frustrating part, these could have been awesome new “Pauper” limited type of thing

1.99 dollar store boosters or high theft Walmart stores. Or this could be a requirement for their print suppliers to keep the beyond booster run minimum quantities

Oh no its a (shareholders)value booster

My local LGS has been selling lucky bag repacks to parents and grand parents coming in looking for a small thing to get their younglings and found normal product too expensive for their liking. This i think is a product built on feedback

@ITAmich

17 күн бұрын

Honestly? If there were kids around when I would draft (we usually drafted once a week but it was in the evening ater dinner time so no kids were around), I would have always given commons and uncommons away for free. They were comlpetely useless to me even while I was in the process of building a competitive deck. I would simply buy all the needed commons/uncommons in bulk for like 5 / 10 euros top and never think about them anymore.

They already did it... twice... Fallen Empires and then Conflux to M14 also had them, and the second time around it was 2 bucks per... So these are gonna be like 3 bucks for no rare

I legit thought this was an off-season April Fools joke at first. I don't normally desire for a product to truly fail, but this really needs to fail HARD to send Wizards a message.

Dollar Store type places sell something similar for Pokemon/Yugioh. I feel like it's just mtg having to 'announce' what it is that makes it look like a problem. This isn't meant to be sold at your lgs or big box retails... It's meant for the "we sell cheap things!" store.

So you cant draft it, you get a rare or mythic in 1/12 packs roughly, and the rest is commons uncommons and a land (cuz you know the spg slot like 1%) This better be at most $2 packs cuz thats even a gambling price

I hope it will be available at my Local Garbage Dump.

As a dollar sign with hands and feet, this product sounds like the perfect way to start assembling a tournament-legal competitive 60-card deck.

@zeusalternative1270

15 күн бұрын

I wish you luck on that endeavor

I feel bad for the kids who get this as a gift because their parents or grandparents knew they liked MTG. Maybe Timmy will like this for his birthday... no he wont

*sigh* time to start my printer again

It's not just a 7 card booster. It's an Arena booster in paper.

@Hagrites

18 күн бұрын

I didn't even realize that

@Xoulrath_

18 күн бұрын

Arena boosters come with a guaranteed Rare or better. Last I played a couple of years ago anyway.

@heecks9375

18 күн бұрын

Arena booster are free too, just spend 1000 gold a pack. You get a rare 100%

@scottcampbell9515

18 күн бұрын

@@heecks9375 sure many of us may know that but others might not get that or feel they need to pay to play. WotC doesn’t make a product line just because. There is a reason behind this product. This, Aftermath, and Assassin’s Creed are all a test run for something yet to come.

@scottcampbell9515

18 күн бұрын

@@Xoulrath_ sure, and what’s to say the next time they do this style of pack in paper they don’t make that change? It could happen.

High key I plan to just shoplift these whenever I'm in a Walmart.

Once they took away set boosters I knew it was only gonna get worse...

its like they heard the complaints about aftermath boosters and thought we were mad that rares were in the packs.

Gotta vote with your dollar folks, convince your 🐋 friend to spend into older sets instead of brand new stuff. Personally I stopped buying premium sets and my last products was half-sies a box of thunder junction dis-function with a friend

You know what would make sense if they did something like this but closer to what Pokemon has with trick or treat packs. Legendary and lower value planeswalker cards in Halloween costumes would be something I could see them doing at this point, especially with the horror set later this year

Heyo! Thanks for the shout out Shaf! This is such a tone deaf take on how to market products to the masses, especially with how bad some of the diagrams got for ONE boosters and other sets. Just give us old boosters damnit! Keep it simple and stop catering to the financially advantaged.

Its almost like they've lost touch

@jordanmeyler9239

17 күн бұрын

no no its the customers who are wrong

I feel as though they just got a lot of 7 card booster sleeves to fill since Aftermath 2 was cut. If it was 2 bucks and guaranteed rare with potential to get a second, worth it. But it isn't, so straight to the bin. Can't wait till WoTC shills start posting insane pulls on reddit out of value packs tho.

The perfect product for our significant other to purchase for us not knowing we dont want it

If this thing is next to the Halloween candy I will buy it and hand it out on Halloween.

Me, a Magic fan who only plays on TTS: "Aww man... that sucks. Welp, time to play with my 4 Alpha Black Lotuses!"

I'm starting to miss the set based theme booster and jumpstart.

That paper wrapping is to combat theft, not to justify paying more.

The main reason why they converted set and draft into play boosters was to solve the exact the same problem they are turning back with value boosters (a product with no use for anybody, doesn't matter if it's cheap; it won't sell just as draft used to)

What WOTC using predatory tactics again!!?? Imagine my shock

Absolutely agree that this is a dollar product. The packaging "MAY" be just a digital prototype but I am included to agree with you that it could push this into the 4-5 dollar point at big box stores. It would then be stealing from parents seeking a quick impulse reward for their kids as the pack will have an average of about $0.35 of content.

As a set collector, I feel that Wotc wants all my money. Instead that haven't got any in quite some time

Yay magic has finally made it cheaper for me to be an alcoholic!

Tbh at a dollar per pack, this might be interesting for collector box buyers. Collector boosters have a poor coverage of commons and uncommons. But probably this will be priced to aggressive to be successful.

The first Zendikar had something like this, I think each came with a full art so it wasn't worth it really, but that's back when only a few sets had full arts. And they were like $2.

Bet they won't sell these in the UK - they have advertising laws about stuff like that and there's no way these are going to be a good value

I usually am able to find amazing bulk buys filled with commons and uncomons from one or more (sometime specifically advertised which) sets, from stores that don’t like holding on to bulk, or players ridding themselves of chaff and oversized collections. 500-1000 card lots and for between 5-20 dollars, depending on a few factors. That’s what value means. More products for less money. If you go to a grocery store, value means getting extra. I fail to see the “extra” in what this product is. To me it is looking like a false promise on the packaging, and disappointment waiting to be unwrapped. Wizards had awesome value products back when bundles had 10 draft packs and the fatpacks that came with a book about the set. They had awesome value when there were commander decks for 19.99, and when intro packs /decks came with extra booster pack/s. Imagine how much more the starter kits would sell as well if they had 2-3 boosters along with the two decks. That would be value!

What does a magic god pack look like??? 🤔🤔

@toddpacker1015

18 күн бұрын

A Collector Booster.

Here is a wild thought. I'd buy more product if it was cheaper

If this is truly exclusive to big box stores, there could be a silver lining. If this is all that's available at Walie World, then it could drive traffic to local game stores/comic book shops

The stupid thing is that people will still buy these and then WotC will look at data and see they sell so they'll keep making them.

WotC merged the Draft and Set boosters to reduce the number of booster products players had to track. So naturally the best option is to introduce a new type of booster and completely undo that. The Play Booster’s reason for existing was just nullified. Honestly, I think the best option for what packs we should have is just two and only two: the $4 draft booster designed exclusively to draft, and something like a $6-$7 Set booster that has your Booster Fun, art cards, and extended art, basically merging the Set and Collector boosters. But unfortunately WotC is allergic to good ideas.

Commenting for algorithm Hate for Hasbro from Canada ❤️❤️

Wotc overestimated the player base's tolerance for aftermath style products

What people are missing is that this kind of pack already exists, made by third parties. Wizards only wants a piece of that pie. Which doesn't mean these are a good deal or that Wizards are any good

I feel for the people at Wizards. I can’t imagine the insanity that they probably have to deal with via Hasbro just milking this game to death - one that they surely love as well. Short term gains for the long term destruction of MtG. Definitely found myself googling how to play 40K, pricing, local scene the last few weeks.

Under the sole condition that these packs are a dollar (which may be the case knowing what the rare-per-dollar rate roughly is), I actually really like these for super cheap pseudo-pauper drafts. Burrow seems like a very fun set and I think having the limited experience, even if you pull little value, could be fun for specific play groups. If they're at the aforementioned price point I'm going to buy some of these.

Did they not just reduce the amount of boosters due to confusion?

@JakesFavorites

17 күн бұрын

No, it was due to not being able to support all languages with all boosters. This is a bulk sheet release valve they've resorted to in the past for Walmarts and stuff.

Its an ebay mystery pack. Chance at black lotus! Very infinitely small! But not impossible!

I mean Pokémon has the 3 card boosters for $1 and they’re pretty good. No guaranteed rares but they’re still pretty good depending on your hits. You can make bank of those if you pull the right cards. Just like any other booster pack.

They just need to SLOW DOWN….. it’s literally always a product, we can’t enjoy what we have because it’s always something. In addition to that, it’s always 5 million versions of one thing. Why can’t we just go back to REGULAR, EVERYDAY BOOSTER PACKS!?? Novel idea!

We formalized Dollarama Booster packs LETS GO

I thought this was gonna be a cut the chaffe booster. How like with after math and assassins creed have no commons. When I heard it was the oppisite, I nearly threw my phone.

Ughhhhh.... draft chaff with a minimal chance of getting a Special Guest card? How can they say with a straight face that this is not like an "inexpensive" lottery booster?

If they cram the universe’s beyond into the aftermath sized card list I’d support it over a full set

If these end up $1 a pack I think this could be okay like the 3 card Pokemon packs at the dollar store but otherwise these are trash. Only reason I think this is okay is because smaller kids might want to buy theme for this set because of “cute animals”

The value is not for us, is for Ha$bro

When hasbro is intent on destroying itself.

Ooh, ooh! I wonder if it’ll be as successful as other 7 card boosters with no rares like the immensely successful Homelands! Or the mighty and popular Fallen Empires! 😂

If this was a $1 pack like the dollar store Pokémon packs, it would be ok. But I bet it’s $3 at the min. This is not only a bad deal but it’s just trash being sold that is going into the landfill.

Honestly if it was $2.50 or less then I would buy it. I like going to my LGS, checking the bulk card section and hanging out for a bit. I would buy a pack or two when I go but they're like 6-12 bucks. I could be dumb for saying this but I would pay $2.50 to support my LGS a bit everytime I go and try the new set out.

@tcgdarren5865

18 күн бұрын

Why when you can probably just spend less than $2.50 on whatever card you're hoping to pull out of this POS lol

@bombay9891

18 күн бұрын

@@tcgdarren5865 It depends what the pull rate on rares are but, yeah.

If they are $2 per pack msrp I think it’s a real cool idea. We’ll see. As a share holder I’d rather them not make this.

The sad part is even with a guaranteed rare slot, the normal packs aren’t even worth it. 99% of rares are jank rares that’s not even worth a quarter. The pack with no rare will have the same value as a pack with rares like 80% of the time.

It could be a BOAT!

I'm awaiting the "booster booster". A booster whose content is just another booster. Wait, no cards, just the packaging. A packaging wrapping another, empty packaging. That's it

Is threshold considered kicker or horsemanship?

@jamesoakley9333

18 күн бұрын

No extra cost= horsemanship

I feel like, cause bloomburrow is sorta a product which under my predictions is going to pull a lot of new fans into mtg (because furrys and parents are going to love this set), that wotc is just trying to capitalize off of these new and unexperienced players. If gamestores receive these products then i will take every opportunity to tell people at my lgs toxnot buy this product, thats what i did for double feature and i feel like thats gonna be similar, but we will see. Iam still hyped for these anthros but damn hasbro

for 50 cents i might buy

I mean if they were like 2$ or something then value boosters aint that bad, but like we all know these fucks are gonna be like 4$ or something to cover the raising costs of draft boosters.

Wait mtg cards are sold at Walmart? Since when? Haven't been selling mtg cards at Walmarts in years.

2026 WOTC: so we analised rhe buying behavior of the people. And we decide to reduce the varaity of boosters. NOW WE HAVE VALUEBOOSTERS FOR THE PRICE OF PLAYBOOSTERS. PLAYBOOSTERS ARE NOT EVEN LONGER. THEREFOR THE VALUE BOOSTER CONTAIN UP TO 15 CARDS AND NO RARE GARANTEED.

Sorry for ruining your wind down yesterday

They are just trying to confuse parents and grandparents.

First time ever, booster with NOT GUARANTEED RARE

@JakesFavorites

17 күн бұрын

There have been packs like this before, but they were discontinued. This is just the new name for them.

So charge the same for half the cards? So we're getting fucked, got it

They are introducing a cheaper booster in order to raise the price in the original. Its not about value,casual players or something else.

Been doing an AVG price cost analysis will have video coming out tomorrow evening, but in short not worth anything at all. WOTC are so out of touch.

And there are people had the audacity to tell me Value boosters are better to draft pauper. I replied you're paying for the same or even more money to draft as you need to buy twice the amount of packs. Then, you have the same amount of commons for the lesser value. Value boosters my ass. This is even worse than Fallen Empires or Aftermath.

If it's not a dollar, it's not it.

It's a small booster for kids to pick up with their lunch money. Get them in young.

They had better not pull this crap with the final fantasy set

Even though it's luck when it comes to winning and if you know deck building, WOTC is saying magic is pay to win which is a damn shame.

So the Value Boosters may contain $0 value

0 rares means more pauper cards in a pack?

@hyp3rsqu1d81

18 күн бұрын

​@darkma1ice even if it's for pauper in not paying more than 50 cents for a pack that only has commons

@tuongpham7609

18 күн бұрын

@@hyp3rsqu1d81 I mean, how much value is in a $5 pack when the rares are like a quarter?

Half of a booster Not half the price

Who is it for? It's for scamming grandmothers in a target who would otherwise be buying their grandkids product that might actually satiate their need for cards

@DevinVT1

17 күн бұрын

Bro most kids would be happy with any cards. It’s not that serious

@cedarbobedar7223

17 күн бұрын

@@DevinVT1 You don't have kids, do you? lol

Man, the product offerings just keep getting worse and worse. In terms of alternative booster packs, my favorite will always be the theme boosters since you got a decent bulk of commons and uncommons, Standard Jumpstart left a lot to be desired since it lacked the powerlevel of Jumpstart and Jumpstart 2022, and now those are gone and these are replacing it? It's laughable to call them value, I'd legit rather sell them at 2 commons, 2 uncommons and 1 guaranteed rare compared to the bunk they got now, and even then, it would still be a hard sell.

at 1 dollar, this is ok, at 1.01 this is a scam

It depends on the price. If they cost only 2-3bucks and hanging everywhere, I could see that product especially for kids! Magic shouldn't be a luxury hobby. But if they could produce a booster only 3 bucks, why are playboosters so expensive.

shareholder value from ha$blow. And remember they want to make dungeons and dragons digital so they can lootbox and paywall anything good behind them. All they care is number must go up and if it kills the line in 3 years it appeases the real bosses for 2 then they flog some new nonsense.

They're doing 2 things with this: Testing the waters to see people's reactions to exploiting their player base as hard as they can, and also desensitizing everyone for their end-game plan of making all boosters value boosters. They wouldn't be doing this if some corporate troglodyte didn't already mandate that all of their boosters change to this for maximum profits. They probably got some pushback from the underlings, so this is the compromise, to test the waters and also ready people's minds for the direction they plan to go.

this looks like it was made for crappy mtg mystery cubes.

I'll still just buy singles. THAT supports my LGS better than this

its a value booster, value for them LOL