sparrows will either miss the easiest shot ever or hit the most insane physics breaking bs

@farhanrahmaddani3218

3 ай бұрын

and nothing in between

@adrianstachowski9422

3 ай бұрын

Yeah. My expierence with a sparrow it: it miss a straight flying object just because the object is lower, still high above ground. Or do 90 degree turn and hit a hard manouvering F16 at it's optimal speed droping flares, chaff and shit but still manages to do a crazy spin, almost 360 and hit a target

@cooperkid965

3 ай бұрын

true that@@farhanrahmaddani3218

@nitrous_god

3 ай бұрын

@@adrianstachowski9422fr. its like me in fps games. i either hit the craziest shots and wipe the floor with the enemy team, or do fuck all, miss the easiest shots, and get the lowest kd ratio known to man lmao

@adrianstachowski9422

3 ай бұрын

@@nitrous_god in fps games (cod mostly) it might be just skill based match making ;)

US mains single handedly reversing the K/D ratio of the F-15 .3 seconds after release

@mixmaster3043

3 ай бұрын

I swear on god that i found a guy saying that the F-15 should be moved to 11.7 because its "suffers" in 12.3

@williewilson2250

3 ай бұрын

​@@mixmaster3043he suffers from mental problems

@Registered_Simp

3 ай бұрын

@@mixmaster3043 Ah yes. Cause any of the following planes should be capable of fighting an F-15 in addition to the ones that already do... -J35XS -F-104G/S -F-5E/A -F-4E/EJ/Kurnass -Su-22 -Sea Harrier FRS.1 -J35XS -JA37C -AJS37 -Mig-23M -Mig-21bis -Su-25BM -J-7E -J-8B Fuck is bro smoking? 💀💀💀

@martenkalzen3284

3 ай бұрын

​@@Registered_Simpit should be a 12.7 for sure

@lucasmateus1389

3 ай бұрын

Stock grind bro, that's hard

not having a "sparrows doNut work" pun in the thumbnail is disappointing

@mayonotes9849

3 ай бұрын

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

@Jonathansux

3 ай бұрын

Hi freezed

@croskerk

3 ай бұрын

Unwatchable now

I aspire to the level of genius it takes to come up with "double lobotomized donkeys with the iq of the plastic cd case for the bluray copy of top gun maverick"

@nebojsanesic5326

Ай бұрын

No one cares what nazis think.

@DrecnchedCanadian

27 күн бұрын

ai cant replicate this

I've noticed that ever since this major update, missiles, in general, have become more screwy. My ERs/AIM 7s screw up A LOT more often. They either won't fuse, or they'll just fly off into Narnia or just stop tracking despite maintaining lock. I genuinely think they screwed up something with the servers/cheaped out on them/servers have been under more strain. Especially after today where my sparrows worked 60% of the time on perfect launches and my 9Ls were doing the exact same thing with not fusing despite almost grazing the people they were fired at. I even had a sparrow go after a teammate 3km away from the guy I was locked onto (with a 4km distance launch). It didn't even try to go after the guy I locked on to

@nilychkirilov

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, that seems about right. You almost feel happy when the sparrow does its job these days. I've had shots where the missile went left when the locked enemy was to my right, a couple of them, in fact.

@cobracommander4609

3 ай бұрын

I've had SARH missiles from all nations have adhd and just go off and do what it wanted. Its something they did with the seeker heads. For an example me and a buddy were in a custom server and both doing a head on and my missile cork screws and his follows after it. I had the ER he had the 7M. Its kinda funny.

@jcool42069

3 ай бұрын

@cobracommander4609 Oh yeah I agree that it's all radar missiles. I've used both (have Russia, Japan, and Sweden for reference) and both of them tend to just randomly not fuse on people or they just give up on tracking. I've noticed that the ERs seem to track better, but they don't actually fuse more often, and then for the sparrows it's the other way around. I've used 530Fs as well, but not enough to form a opinion on them. Tbh I just carry full IR load outs for the most part nowadays thanks to it

@swarbricke

3 ай бұрын

So ur teammate was closer then… isn’t that exactly what he says in the video that ur doing wrong?

@cobracommander4609

3 ай бұрын

@@swarbrickehead ons as in standard launch ranges of 10-15 miles at 8-10,000 feet. Is what we were doing. So correct ranges and alts for the tests. Not mad at the results just think it’s funny

I would love to see your tutorials on jets, especially for people who recently got into flying jets (me included). The tutorials from others' yt channel 2 years ago do helped but the state of the air RB jet has changed drastically. It would really help people who just got introduce to jets. Good luck with F-104s, I'm looking forward to seeing their meme guide!

@jcool42069

3 ай бұрын

Watch DEFYN. In all of his videos he explains what he's doing and why he's doing it. The best air rb player I've ever seen

@norske_ow3440

3 ай бұрын

lol no, watch defyn or literally anyone else except this kid

@srgabrielfb

3 ай бұрын

@@jcool42069 DEFYN don't play like this guy, its a another way to play.

8:13 the fact he has put f16c back at 12.3 under his username says it all

@johnwhite4960

3 ай бұрын

You SAW! he gave himself away earlier too lol

finally someone say something about the 'muhuhuhuhu 102-0 kd ratio' yeah no shit buddy i wonder what the mig29 kd would be if it were to fought brazilian f86

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

Also soviet fighters were built to be dependent on gci guidance and control, which was at the very best incompetent and lacking in coverage at the third world countries where migs were exported. Soviet pilot instructors in their notes wrote that ever rwrs on the planes were usually broken and sometimes even radios didn't work

@iamishin7675

Күн бұрын

Scoreboard commie

the only 'proper' bvr experience I have is shitting 2 AMRAAM in a DCS F-16C at 33k fts, dive to the deck, then crash because I run out of fuel. So I have nothing to say about top tier

Still waiting on the radar, notching, and defensive maneuvering guide video 😂

I feel like the f-15 not being the reason its kd is so high is kinda wrong. The f-15 in real life came 10 years before the mig-29 and su-27, the engineerings and pilots were the reason the f-15 were dominant

@DonutWithMustache

3 ай бұрын

F-15As in USAF service didnt even have flares for the first 15 or so years. Those got added in the MSIP upgrade later.

@BAM_BAM_XCI

3 ай бұрын

@DonutWithMustache what does that have to do with it? It's the worst case scenario. the opponent was a mig 23.

@BAM_BAM_XCI

3 ай бұрын

@DonutWithMustache and it got flares dispensers they just never used them because the flares had trouble igniting at its operational altitude, not to mention flares didn't really cover the engines heat signature, it's not like video games where flares just make the missile lose lock especially the early missile.

@mr.ballstone1914

26 күн бұрын

This guy’s argument is right and wrong at the same time. While part of it obviously was US training, tactics, etc. the plane itself still played a huge role. The reason the F-15 was facing “outdated” jets wasn’t because it was facing third world countries (many of these countries were directly funded with top of the shelf USSR equipment) but because comparatively it was simply that much more advanced for its time. Even throughout the early 1980s the main fighting force of the USSR was still the Mig-21. This doesn’t translate to War Thunder because BR isn’t sorted by historical timeframe. So yeah, it’s easy to say “It only fought Mig-21s” but when you take into account those weren’t just “outdated” jets but the literal backbone of USSR & Warsaw Pact air superiority it’s not hard to recognize that the F-15 simply was a great plane.

@DonutWithMustache

26 күн бұрын

​@@mr.ballstone1914 The F-15 was a great plane and i respect it, but please do a 10 second google search before saying incorrect things. "by the 1980s the Soviet air force was mostly MIG-21s" is just wrong. MiG-21s were gradually phased out in the 70s, except for MiG-21Bis. The primary bulk of the Soviet air force going into the 80s was MiG-23s. By the early 80s, you had aircraft such as the MiG-29 (1983) and Su-27 (1984) entering service as well, forming the back bone by the end of the decade. By the time the USSR collapsed, MiG-23 and 21 were only in reserve service/storage, with MiG-29 and Su-27 forming the bulk of the fighting force. Had the F-15 faced the Soviet Airforce any time after 1985, it would have faced Su-27s and MiG-29s almsot always. The F-15 never faced the Soviet air force directly, and we can never know for sure how it wouldve done. there is no way around this truth. What it did face was Syrian MiG-21, 23 and Su-22, Iraqi MiG-21, 23, 25, and Mirage F1, and Yugoslav MiG-21 and 29. Half of those Iraqi kills were against un-armed aircraft trying to escape to Iran for safety after the third day of the war. Until the F-15 faces against a Su-27, the aircraft designed to equal it in performance, we can not make a true deduction of the F-15's performance. Have you looked at the F-15's official kill dossier provided by the USAF? The F-15 is a great aircraft and i respect it for what it is, but if it was half as "unstoppable" as people on the internet claim it is, the US wouldn't have to list a IL-76 and some unarmed transport helicopters as "air to air combat kills" for the F-15, as if the IL-76 cargo transport was somehow supposed to fight back in a fair fight.

Actually there REALLY IS the Server-Sided Issues, and It really happens in every SARHs. But R-27ER is capable to re-acquire targets since it has DL capability, therefore any other SARHs sometimes go wrong completely. I still don't know is it missile logic or PID, but the fact is SARHs really goes wrong, and especially sparrows can go wrong too. Only R-27ER performs reliably.

and if you pause for a brief second at 1:44 you can almost hear the cry of a MiG-21bis player watching a jet die right before his missile connects another W upload, can’t wait for the next meme guide!

@mewhenitfriday

3 ай бұрын

Hi lucy

@lucinator8582

3 ай бұрын

@@mewhenitfriday hi mew

After about 30 seconds on google, I found out that F-16 pilots train anywhere from 6-9 months before they can fly the F-16, and some sources say it takes upwards of 2 YEARS before they're even allowed to fly in combat. I can assume that it's about the same for the F-15, so that 100-0 KD really isn't just because the plane is good.

@ADGMagic

Ай бұрын

The 100-0 KD is a result of a) superior US pilot training at the time compared to adversaries and b) 4th gen jet fighting 3rd gen jets, the tech difference between a f15 and the mig23/21/ect that they were fighting is huuuuge

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

​@@ADGMagic and c) mig21/23 are built to be a part of a complex air defense system with ground search radars and gci (manual and automatic) guidance, which was absent at the third world countries f15 fought in

AIM-7s are really weird with me, sometimes they'll veer off randomly for no reason (though this is kinda rare) and other times they'll refuse to stop tracking an enemy even if i haven't had them locked for 10+ seconds, them flying into clouds, near the deck, chaffing etc. It's like the missile is fueled on pure spite and rage alone

Alot of my sparrow hate comes from the F-4J. I now know that its the radar/user error/pain of 11.3 uptiers is the problem. Not the missile.

@V-V1875-h

3 ай бұрын

but it seems my sparrows are hitting and not exploding, or just flying right by even in a headon with enough time to fuse

@gato_capitalista

3 ай бұрын

Using planes like the F-14/15/16, it is the missile, it has sidelobes that are way too sensitive

@pffpffovich2398

2 ай бұрын

Nah, i had multiple moments in F-4J where my AIM-7E-2 just nose-dived to the ground when the enemy started to climb or AIM-7F fly so close they left a scar on enemy pilot's face but did not detonate and just flew to the sky.

The thing that I don’t understand is for people to say broken ass missile in top tier chat but not thinking to themselves maybe I should learn how to defeat it instead. Baffling

@DigitalShaolin

3 ай бұрын

the only way to reliably beat an r27er is to just fly below 150m lol which is something most people already do, its not something like "just notch duh!! skell izzue" because the 27er doesnt go stupid and useless immediately after losing lock like every other radar missile and besides this you need a perfect 90 degree angle and spending half of your chaff until the missile passes to defeat if. meanwhile sparrows just require turning 70 degrees and popping chaff 2 times and the missile immediately turns itself off and is unable to be used.

@Vulcan-is8tw

3 ай бұрын

Guy above me is right. You should watch Seek’s video on evading radar missiles. He tried dodging ERs with chaff/notching at BVR and it did absolutely nothing to stop it most of the time.

@niksonrex88

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, Russian dopplers are so easy to notch when at longer ranges. You have to ignore your RWR to die to a random R-27. And when you go into a furball just stay low.. I almost exclusively get killed by IR missiles.

@niksonrex88

3 ай бұрын

@@DigitalShaolinvery untrue, i have the Barak 2, F-14B, F-15A and the Flanker and have over a 2.0 KD on all of them. The only time i have gotten killed by some bullshit was when sparrows were fired at me. Sometimes they are the easiest shit to dodge and sometimes they just refuse to get off your ass. Russian radars arent that good if you notch. Ive beaten countless flankers at BVR combat by just cranking in the F-14B. Or going full perpendicular and then recommitting.

@DigitalShaolin

3 ай бұрын

@@niksonrex88 dude your tweaking lol, watch seeks video. this is coming from one of the top war thunder players talking about how it is notching the r27er, if you are losing your bvr fight in the su27 you are simply just bad because there is no circumstance you should lose. also, even if you successfully notched the planes radar, you have to keep notching and continuously chaffing until the missile misses you because unlike any other missile ingame never goes dumb after losing lock, the missile always has the capability to lock on after launching no matter how long it has lost lock for

An issue ive been having with sparrows since even before the last major update are 2 things: It not fusing, and having it stop tracking 1 second before impact on a flawless lock backdroped by open sky. I dont have any other radar missiles myself, but i always fly with friend in the french techtree who doesn't have this issue. In fact whenever he's spectating me fire sparrows, his dialog always goes something like this: "You see that flanker? Yeah fire-yeah... oh hes cooked, its over for him hes fucking cooke- WHAAAAAAT?????" We've coined these common occurrences as "sparrow moments"

@doorknobsoup

2 ай бұрын

If it helps explain how in any way, maybe me being on xbox somehow has something to do with it? Maybe something with my settings? Because I know having HDR on fucks with the server replay. I really just don't know.

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

From my experience if your target drops chaff when your fox1 is really close to it, the missile will magically start tracking chaff even in a perfect head on shot. Luckily most of the players don't abuse this stupid gaijin 'get out of jail' card

Couple days ago I've returned to the F-4EJ Kai after grinding the entire Japan air tree with the ADTW, and it's been a blast. Even when I only had the 7-Es unlocked, the sparrows still made 80% of my kills amd it was very easy to get 2-3 kills. And after playing France for so long, having a plane with 4 decent radar missiles on top of your ir ones is a dream

@rienplayz9903

3 ай бұрын

It’s the 7Fs and 7Ms that are fucked up

@lucasboulanger5568

3 ай бұрын

​@@rienplayz9903 Yeah and I'm still doing perfectly fine with those too, and I very often get at least 2 kills with them.

@rienplayz9903

3 ай бұрын

@@lucasboulanger5568 Nice. My sparrows miss in perfect headons

@saabportly7487

3 ай бұрын

@@rienplayz9903watch the video 💀💀💀

@ToreDL87

3 ай бұрын

@@rienplayz9903 That's because the Sparrow is so low speed you can dodge it in perfect headon. There's a timing to it, watch Seek's recent radar missile guide. My advise is you wanna be slightly off-bore to keep the Sparrow turning so it can pre-empt and throw off their timing.

As a American main (sadly) I liked a lot of your points and fully agree with you. I feel like most people just get upset at how much faster and more maneuverable the er is as a su27 will always win the bvr engagement if the missile isn't notched correctly which I will admit is more challenging with the er than other missiles. As a coping mechanism to try and counter the fact that these players don't want to admit they are using the plane incorrectly they just find something else to pin the blame on. Great video and keep up the good content!

@artruisjoew5473

3 ай бұрын

No the problem with R27ER is that none of its real life problems (reliability issues due to shitty soviet electronics, low fidelity tracking means it is vulnerable to chaff and ECM, poor low altitude performance, etc) are modeled, instead gaijin just said “same general type of seeker, same performance”, which is rather bullshit. To put it Ilin perspective, the minimum engagement altitude for the 27ER IRL is 5000ft (1500m) AGL, while (navalized) sparrows were able to intercept sea skimming missiles 20ft above the wave tops. Now THAT is a difference that should be modeled properly.

@benpurcell4935

3 ай бұрын

The problem is primarily all SARH missiles are having an issue. Even the IR missiles are having trouble getting targets no matter the range.

@a.e.richardson218

2 ай бұрын

@@artruisjoew5473 this may be true but they also don't model the near useless seeker on CW sparrows before the M the one that has an 85% fail rate on tracking

@a.e.richardson218

2 ай бұрын

@@artruisjoew5473 I checked what its advertised minimum engagement altitude is. its 20m. idfk where you got 1,5km from but can you provide a source?

@pffpffovich2398

2 ай бұрын

the problem with R-27 is not only it's maneuvering and chaff ignoring but that it can re-lock on targets instantly multiple times untill they fly by the target and miss while other missiles with re-lock capabilities just do a flip and shit themselves after witnessing a single chaff\enemy turning 30 degrees.

Can't believe they're complaining about sparrows. I've been playing top tier for 2 weeks and never got killed by R-27. Instead, i ALWAYS get killed by a random Sparrow, even notching, chaffing and jinking can't trash the missile, and yet they still complain?

As a Japanese main i noticed that the aim7 got screwed with, but im pretty sure it was all missiles, like bs 45° turn to hit a teammate i didn't have lock on, when the enemy was straight ahead. Also the most annoying problem for me is the radar getting stuck in lock mode for like 30 seconds where you cant stop it and have to turn your radar on and off to fix it, it's gotten me killed a lot

There’s a catastrophic cultural interplay between nafoids and r/warthunder and I seriously doubt it won’t just keep getting worse, free kills tho ig I can’t imagine the ruski bias shrieks if Gaijin actually started modeling conscan vs inverse monopulse lmao anyways you earned yourself a sub 07

All I know is my Aim-7M's keep doing a 90 degree turn into the ground even when I have a solid lock. Edit: I have no idea what notching even means, I just hear people say to do it. I guess it s flying at a 90 degree angle while dropping chaff?

@user-if4zv5nj5m

3 ай бұрын

1. You are correct about notching 2. There are several reasons for this aim7 behavior: 2a. All fox1 missiles have their own radar seeker, so if your radar tracks a notching target, it doesn't mean that missile can see it too, usually top tier radars are harder to notch than respective radar missiles 2b. The missile doesn't know which target do you want it to hit. Your radar illuminates some area around the locked target and your sparrow goes to the strongest radar return from that area (meaning one with the highest closure speed). Usually that's your target, but sometimes it's another plane in that illuminated area 2c. Ground multipathing matters not only when your target is at extremely low alt. For example, there's your target 5 NM in front of you at somewhat high altitude, and a mountain peak at 2 NM just below the direct line from your radar to the target. The sparrow you'll launch will get confused by a strong radar return coming from that peak and head straight to the peak. To avoid it, point a sparrow high above this mountain peak before the launch, so it wouldn't have lo fly close to the ground

@jonnybgoode7742

Ай бұрын

​@@user-if4zv5nj5m 3. Russian game. Had 3 sparrows over 4 platforms track this past week. This game is ridiculous.

I'd love a tutorial on chaff management. I know you only need 1 or 2, but don't know the right timing

@norske_ow3440

3 ай бұрын

Ask anyone except this delusional yes man

a tutorial on how to defeat and/or use top tier missiles; cranking, notching, good radar use, proper countermeasure use etc. would be a very good. I'm getting to top tier myself after a lot of grinding and I'd rather know whats the proper things to do before I get clubbed and cry on a reddit post

I've been having a ton of troubles with the Sparrows lately, mainly just flying off wherever they want even when a lock is maintained. Rather frustrating, but I've come to expect that.

Can you make a tutorial video on the f-15

Server side issues? clipping a house 5m above its roof? never! snail hamsters never fail!

In short; skill issue I've never had issues with the Sparrows.

Looking forward to seeing a guide on cranking, notching and all things bvr from you.

Us mains always cry its a fact of life at this point

@dankmemewalker7738

3 ай бұрын

I had a whole essay typed up and ready to send but then I realized its mostly just a bunch of yappin so all I got to say is AMERICA RAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!

Me cheering as soon as I hear meteor

Hey Donut, ran into you in a game a few weeks back! Also, fantastic vid highlighting a lot of very true things

How have I not seen you before, this is such a high quality video, when I first watched I thought u were some massive youtuber that I just haven't seen before. Keep up the good work, hope you get a gaijin partnership at some point. Edit: a tutorial on chaff and chaffing while doing cas would be nice

Heya great video! I managed to reach F-14 in the last anniversary by being a gunslinger with f-5c. The BVR missile is still little confusing, but I say I am doing pretty well with the engagements for my first top tier air. Also, riding f-4j to practice BVR was also good practice for me as well. But, I say you should definitely make a guide on notching. I think you are the first one to present notching without making it too complicated to understand from enemy's perspective (that f-15 was not doing at all). I always cranked with aim-9e so I got that! also, never knew about the missile acceleration on the sparrow too. I knew I had to build up speed for the phoenix . Anyways thanks for a great coverage!

Just out of curiosity, when do you use src pd and when src pd hdn? I get the latter one is intended for fast closing rates, but I never seem to get it right.

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

Pd hdn has more detection and lock range for hot targets. For mig29 and su27 you should use hdn modes it if your targets are further than 25-30 NM because normal ones don't see anything above those ranges, and hdn detects hot fighters up to 60-65 nm. For anything closer than 30 nm normal pd/tws works better. Nato jets usually have longer detection ranges for normal pd and don't require switching to hdn and back

People do forget that this is a game and Gaijin has to balance things out. The game is Semi-historically accurate at best. Also, AIM-7 isn't exactly the best missile historically speaking.

I watched this video first about at the time it came out. I did not comment back then (I think, or rather I hope) because at the time, the only experience with radar missiles I had, were french and soviet types. However, now that I am grinding the US and have flown my F-4J for a while, here are my thoughts: It is entirely possible that this is recency bias, but I do not recall the 530D or R27 really just chasing something entirely unaffiliated with the battle or nosediving for no discernable reason. So, I am definitely in the camp of "there is something wrong with the sparrow" for now, but not because of the reasons that others have given and rather because there is a separate group on reddit, which is pretty much the complete opposite of the ones you mention in your video: You can show them that you have a solid radar lock on an enemy, but the sparrow goes 50° off bore and instead TKs someone. Obviously, unlocking could have prevented this, but when people then spew bullshit like "those are sidelobes, totally normal behavior of your radar" it gets me a little angry, because that is not how sidelobes work. So, what is my conclusion? Mainly that, after grinding my way up a third time now and really no longer being used to capable radar missiles, I need to up my game because I have a lot of embarassing deaths to R-24Rs and other sparrows and I need to work on that.

Rarely have issues with my AIM-7F's US mains can stay coping

@F-18Super

3 ай бұрын

damn you ppl are cancer. The AIM-7s work as intended but they dont compete with the R-27 which is the issue. Also why irl the Us rarely uses them over Aim-120s if ever. Plus most ppl refer to Aim-7s just going off on their own even in optimal launch conditions. and before you use the excuse of "skill issue" I actually have a 60%+ win rate in the thing with a decently high k/d

@lucasmateus1389

3 ай бұрын

Luckiest sparrow user*

@Ambush_yt

3 ай бұрын

AIM-7F's are very good , they just yap.

@F-18Super

3 ай бұрын

@@Ambush_yt yeh very good at 11.0 but bring them against an R-27 or planes at low alt and you’re better if just bringing extra aim-9s

@Ambush_yt

3 ай бұрын

​@@F-18Super the normal R-27R Is shit , I'm a Russian main and i know how bad that shit is , the R-24 is way better , the only good missiles Russia have is the R-27ER , R-27ET and R-24R

I had a vacant thought I was killing F-15s too easily in the MiG-23ML.

Ok so the problem is of me not knowing how to actually use flares/chaff properly, having no idea on how the radar works even when I research, not paying attention and getting too focused on one target, and now knowing that I have a big connection to server issue I need to work out.I need to see what I need to do with my internet.

Hello Donut, I love your videos. Is there a chance of you making a short guide on how to defeat top tier missiles and in general to improve? I'm grinding through the Mig-23M rn and it sucks ass, but I feel like there's something about it I'm missing. Thanks in advance!

@user-if4zv5nj5m

3 ай бұрын

Mig23m is a pain to fly. If you can, skip it until you get 23ml/mla/mld (I don't remember which one is in your tree). If you don't perform well with them, than it's definitely a skill issue

OK here is my several paragraphs as requested, admittedly bit longer that I intended but I wanna get my thoughts and experience down, this is kinda just thrown down with no real structure sooo I’m gonna ramble. One thing this video didn't address that I was hoping it would is that clip of the AIM-7 nose diving into the dirt immediately after launch, I'm not some level 12 base bomber, I've been using the AIM-7's almost as long as they have been in the game and this issue is very new, my missile sometimes pull max G in a random direction (Aim-9's sometimes included in that but hard to tell coz it's the 9M) with no noticeable reason why or the other times it will work perfectly and miss the target because... reasons. The target is flying in a straight line, no countermeasures, at 5-7km's not notching or not flying close to the ground (whatever that is called) where RADAR's all go fucky wucky, a trick I use all the time but despot having the perfect shot the missile misses at the last second or if it doesn't someone with an R-27ER behind me who launched the missile after me kills the oblivious prick because his missile is faster Other issues I more commonly find in the F-16C (with the HMD) is why I would be included in the "Noob US player not defending flying in a straight line" because I'm trying to figure out what the fuck my RADAR is doing, the ACM mode will lock onto everything that isn't the enemy (mostly another missile) and TWS does... things. Resulting in me dying because I'm paying attention to that for 2-3 seconds which is a long time to not be paying attention. 99% of my deaths are to Friendly fire, an enemy I didn't see (because you can't look every direction all the time while flying at 1500km/h between trees’ and the spotting system is a bit shit at this tier) or because most planes are sluggish at supersonic speeds and can’t get close to the ground fast enough to use that trick when an R-27ER is launched at me at close range… but I can do it against AIM-7’s and R-530D’s… so yes the R-27ER is objectively better in every meaningful way than the AIM-7, Shut up (not saying we need the AIM-120, no we DO NOT NEED THAT, all people who say that are fucking idiots) Though one thing I have noticed is my missiles don't fail when I attack players away from the main fur-ball but in the chaos they do. If I catch a player out in the flanks, as one of the last few or in a custom match to test it, I can get it to work but the instant I'm around most of the enemy’s team, things just stop working. But if I only target stragglers I either get no kills or stuck in a 10 V 1, no thank you. While I don't have any top MiG’s, yet I do have the MiG-23 MLA and have use it... a lot, and I’ve had none of these issues, I fly both planes the exact same way and the 16 suffers but the MiG doesn’t (maybe bullying F-4S’s during an event would cause the... not sure). The R-24's most likely reason to miss was either target flew at tree top level, or they died to something else (which is fair and part of the game). Though I will have the MiG-29G soon (when the 30% sale drops), so I can test that... once I suffer the stock grind. I was hoping this video would be a helpful guide to adjust my play style to a new mechanic, but Donut essentially just said “it’s a skill issue” and doesn’t even address the clip he showed of the AIM-7 nose diving after launch. I thought he was going to say something along the lines of “the AIM-7 doesn’t work at low altitude because something something ground BS and they work better at higher altitudes.” But on that, every time I climb I get swatted by an R-27ER using the lock-on-after-launch thing, so never knew it was coming. But the fly low theory I had falls apart when I remember the R-24 works perfectly fine close to the ground. Though I can say with confidence I never die to an F-16’s AIM-7’s, I do to F-15’s and even thinking about it I don’t die to Gripens or Mirages SARHM’s either, so I’m not just another shit US premium bomber player. Just saying “Get Good” doesn’t help solve anything except A-10’s dying to MiG-19’s. My issues in the F-16C are my missiles have ADHD, my RADAR locking onto everything but the enemy and the R-27ER (and ET to an extent) is too good. Also, not enough countermeasures (if I run mixed, I run out to quickly). I Haven’t played the F-15 since patch day, purely because I want to save it’s RP bonuses for the next top fighter (I have every US plane) and most of its success was from bullying little Timmy and his GE Su-27, so not much to draw on (though the stock grind was painful a usual). And the F-14 is too slow for my liking, hence why I only play the F-16C at top tier US. Though on a kinda related note, for the memes and the pure chaotic bullshit it would unleash on the game would be only planes marked as "Bomber" can bomb bases, just to watch people who bomb with F-4S's and F-20's panic as they have no clue what the fuck to do. And just for the fun of it, the ground units don't spawn in for the first 10 minutes... because everything is a fighter if you try hard enough (I have a reputation for using 4 engine bombers as gunships... coz fuck it). Air RB is team death match and I want a team I can at least rely on to attempt to fight the enemy and not a building. And make the Ju-288 a Strike Aircraft and move it to 7.0, coz suffer bitch. You ruined 6.0 I literally wrote a 1000+ word essay on this... god I'm... fucking stupid... I hope this is some what coherent

@henryz7158

Ай бұрын

i aint reading allat

@Thunderbox247

Ай бұрын

@@henryz7158 the TLDR is he spent 20 ish minutes to say "it's a skill issue"

@marshall-yo5ho

3 күн бұрын

fun fact, i was the f16c that posted that clip in the video to Reddit, but for some reason the title was different, but the name and f16c decals are 100% mine, i have 1000s of clips of 7ms going completely dumb with optimal lock conditions, while at this time the aim7F worked like a charm, the 7m now works perfectly fine though

@marshall-yo5ho

3 күн бұрын

@@Thunderbox247 exactly, he actually went into one of the reddit comment sections of a post that was made about the video, and got cooked, rightfully so for just making a video saying "U.S. players just shit"

@Thunderbox247

3 күн бұрын

@@marshall-yo5ho since seeing this video I have been trying to find put why the 7M sucks, the R-27R will do it to BUT the ER won't. Still wanna do further testing to see I am correct or just a coincidence

Just asking, the pulse doppler on the F-15/F16 can have stable locks on target flying away from you? Cause on the F4S i usualy switch to standard search mode and pray that the sparrow will still connect (wich usually happens)

@user-if4zv5nj5m

3 ай бұрын

F4s has the worst tracking ability in the game for the cold targets. F15/16 have no problems of tracking anything that isn't flying a perfect notch

I think just from my experience. The major problem is not the pull or the speed or the range. But the fact that half the time when I started the sparrow, it would just stop trying to lock like I never tried to spool it up. In comparison for me the R-27ER would 99% always spool up properly. And it failing is why in head ons people with sparrows end up locking you long before launching.

@Epic_candle

3 ай бұрын

Do you use fire missile key to spool up or lock missile key? Using either is sometimes unreliable due to server issue and is recommended to have both binded in the case of failure

@krass5648

3 ай бұрын

This only happens when you try to warm up the missile with the missile launching keybind.

@alessandromenegollo7957

3 ай бұрын

I've had that happening on all missiles when using the same key to fire and spool it up, both ir and radar guided, NATO or Redfor, it's a common problem for every jet

@TheNicestPig

2 ай бұрын

This happens when you try to launch missile that has not finished spooling so it resets timer, or sometimes it just spools abnormally long and i have no idea why. Happens on every missile, frustrating af.

7:00 Well theoretically the lock sensitivity could make sparrows more susceptible to server issues if the sparrows are more sensitive Also anything that would allow for self requisition (fox 1 and fox 3’s) of an enemy would also not exhibit issues as much as any minor server issues could be self resolved by the missile in flight not requiring player input

Idk I've had a few aim 7f fly right over the target after launching in between 10km-5km but I've had some insane launchs land (launch as I was dodging or fast shot while chasing and it went for a different player)

Just wanna drop that in here: I think if you ever get bored of gajin or stupid people, you can always try playing DCS. You can trial any module for free and I think someone who is this good at BVR combat will have a lot of fun in DCS. I recommend the Flaming Cliffs 3 module. They are very simple to learn and are very very capable. They also recently recieved a nice improvement to graphics.

@DonutWithMustache

3 ай бұрын

Hundreds of flight hours logged on MiG-21bis module. As fun as the F-15E is, i prefer cold war stuff so im just waiting on the F-4E and MiG-23ML modules rn

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

​@@DonutWithMustachetry an f14 module. Nowadays it's the best dcs plane (although an f4 should challenge it). F14 can be effectively deployed in almost all dcs servers, from ecw to modern fox3 spamming ones. At the same time, it feels extremely cold war-ish. Clunky controls, old systems which require a lot of work to make them shine, enormous quantities of old-school gauges and switches. It feels like a mig21 on steroids, everything gives the same vibes but there are much more systems to play with and it can challenge modern fighters as well as participate in old-school fox1 missions

9:17 THAT KILL WAS INSANE!!! I always wondered why IR missile seekers could lock out to like 11 miles, THAT WAS GENIUS! Imagine the kid on the tricycle from the Incredibles... THAT WAS TOTALLY WICKED!!! That was my reaction once I figured out what you did about 2 seconds after launch.

The problem with sparrows is their speed in comparison to the R-27ER. I often shoot a sparrow 3-5 seconds before the enemy shoots the ER at 15km and then crank. The ER reaches me long before my sparrow gets anywhere close to the enemy even if he does nothing to defend. And this is why most players hate fox 1 missiles and hope for AMRAAMs, because at 15km you can shoot the AMRAAM and then go defensive without having to joust while babysitting it like the sparrow, hoping that it will hit the other guy before you get hit... or being forced to choose to gamble getting hit or wasting the missile and losing lock to defend. And in a 16 vs 16 match with your RWR getting spikes from every enemy and ally around, you lose situational awareness quite easily, considering that in most matches the enemy has the same planes as your team and you don't know if that F-16 locking you is the Israeli ally or the Japanese enemy on the other team or if that Mig-29 ping is the German on your team or the Russian on the other team... and is the lock really on you or on someone among the other 15 people around you or is it radiation bleed from an ally locking an enemy?

it has been 1 month, I've just watched my 8th or so r24r not go for a clearly painted enemy and instead kill my teammate even after I noticed and took off the lock. truly a us main skill issue and defiantly not at all in any way a bug.

TLDR: sparrow's problem is brain that ain't braining. people expect the missile to hit every single time and win every single engagement no matter what. They shoot the missile at bad angles and expect it to do all the work. Russian missiles may be overall better, but that doesn't make the sparrows inherently bad (I HATE the early sparrows they're so shit )

@marshall-yo5ho

3 күн бұрын

nope, sparrows were fixed a few months ago, they now work perfectly like the other missiles

Ive been in love for the past few weeks in the barak II using the sparrows. I think the core issue is sparrows do not have the range or speed against its compertition. still doesnt mean its a shit missile.

after I saw this video and learned what the average US main does wrong, I started to actually win more BVR/jousting engagements. especially with managing my closure rate by cutting speed in my Mirage 2000. honestly quite fun stuff

those f15 afterburner textures look amazing

The dumbass K:D ratio NCD karmafarming "meme" debunk was what sealed the deal for me. You got yourself a new subscriber.

So I just want to say one thing. I use the r27er and sometimes I launch it at close range while the lock circle is green and the missile just crashes into the ground so im pretty sure that they are doing the same in even worse conditions

Just revisited top tier with F15 and our experience is strongly different. 3 games, 12 sparrows launched in optimal conditions, only 1 tracked properly xD Vs non manouvering tunel visioned targets, headon, at high alt with strong lock shot within 10km range being higher than a target. Only one from TWELVE hit. Rest didn't even flew in right direction :D

bro, how are you switching between targets on the TWS? I can’t find the bind

@DonutWithMustache

3 ай бұрын

The bind is called "Select Radar/IRST Target to Lock " in the controls menu.

I would love that notching and cranking guide

I had war thunder for awhile but are just almost getting Japanese's jets and guide about pretty much all of it would be very good

Please do make a tutorial or BVR and radar missile combat and counters to such

I think the main issue with sparrows that makes their problems so noticeable is just how good the r74 is that thing is nuts especially when used with the helmet mounted thingy also while I do think the sparrow is good they always seem inconsistent at the worst times possible on like rear aspect stuff or even easy head ons Idk I've kinda stopped playing anything above 10.7 to 11.0 anything above that is to much of "hey have you played ace combat yeah well check this out" Hear me out ive got 1000 hours I know how to use my radars and it's just kinda inexplicable how the aim 7 sometimes shits the bed Anyways for those of you struggling in general focus on learning energy management and defensive flying first then aiming and bvr I say this because those first two things will keep you alive while the second will let you get kills and be aware always be looking up and around you even in fights you need to have good situational awareness of not just yourself but everything going on around you

I sometimes wonder if some people don't even know the Sparrow is not a fire and forget missile.

The destruction time of AIM-7M buff after losing lock is not the same as the R-27ER where the ER can still predict the last known flight path of the target where the AIM-7F/M resets its position to 0-0-0 meaning it only flies straight when you lose lock of the target. Which is why we badly needing the AIM-7MH and AIM-7P where it can predict the last known flight path of the target when you lose lock that is the same on the R-27ER, but gaijin says "Nah, we don't want something that can have the same tech as our legendary R-27ER's". Also remember that the R-27ER's are late 1980's and AIM-7M is early 1970's. Which is why we are needing the later 1980's version of the Sparrows.

@iansysoev9462

3 ай бұрын

This "prediction" is inertial guidance and it is present also on R-24Rs

@Takamiya_Mio

3 ай бұрын

Not even late 80s, its 90s. And after 1 year, AMRAAM got deployed too.

@Skinny6539

3 ай бұрын

shrimply wrong about the 0-0-0 thing, get good

@DigitalShaolin

3 ай бұрын

@@Skinny6539the aim7 loses lock and is unable to regain it, you and the guy who made this video are just yapping lmao, the sparrow will not regain lock after 3 seconds of losing signal

@Skinny6539

3 ай бұрын

@@DigitalShaolin you just said it is unable to regain the lock after its lost, and its unable to regain the lock after 3 seconds in the same sentence.. if anyone’s yappin its you lil bro 💀 🙏

it's possible that the ping affects the missile track? i normally play with 170+ ms and i dont know if this change something in the tracking compared to someone with a decent ping

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

Sometimes I play with 120-150 and I haven't noticed any difference with 40 ping servers

I'm relatively new to air battles in war thunder despite having 2 techtrees maxed out, i still can't make it past 1.0KDR because im having a hard time learning every tactics and standards. But i can affirm that Sparrows are as reliable as other counterparts, they are just a bit worse in some very specific statistics compared to R-27ER for example, which connects a bit more consistently. I am trying my best at BVR but still end up doing like 2 kills or something per match so... but yeah sparrows don't have any "issues", they are not bugged nor they are less efficient than other SARH missiles it's simply that people use them as if they were guided by god or something..

I'm debating getting a F-4S so I can get familiar with the radar and missile stuff while I grind out the rest of my jets, so a guide on how to use this stuff and how to counter it would be very useful.

@ADGMagic

Ай бұрын

Don't bother with the f4s, learn to use the f5C and you will have much more success at top tier. F4S lets you get lazy and just dump bombs and hope for easy head-on 7f shots, f5c teaches you how to actually dogfight which is a more transferable skill to the top tier american jets.

i watched the whole video, and i have not disagreed to even SINGLE point/sentance you made as a french OTP, this is truly one of the videos of all the time.

@dankmemewalker7738

3 ай бұрын

As a US main I don't know how I should feel. Part of me feels insulted by the fact Donut just keeps insulting every US player, and the other part completely agrees with him. Would I be considered a US noob since I got to top tier with the A10 premium when the F14A just came out? Never really bombed bases much but I did use the AIM9L so it took me some time getting used to the lower pulling rear aspect missiles. And a hot minute learning to not spam flares in an aircraft with only a few. But I did my time with the F4J and F8E and eventually the F14A. And I have just recently finished researching all the US planes and getting starting on Israel. Maybe I'm just getting pressed for feeling like I'm being attacked even though I'm not :/

please make a tutorial explaining how to properly and reliably notch radar missles the only way i manage to defend against radar missles is flying low or watching my rwr and trying to make it shut up by flying 90 degrees until the rwr quiets down and then i try dropping some chaff so that the other players plane locks on the chaff instead of relocking me but sometimes the radar missles still hit me i guess i notched too late then

bro for me sparrows don't even work at all, I can't even enable the missile seeker

honestly my r27s hit every time i have a good lock and sometimes my sparrows forget they theyre meant to be missiles

I am new to this game, a tutorial video would be great. Your chanel is awesome, keep up the good work.

As someone who caved into my friends and bought the old event Tornado for the Germans (it dipped below 50 gaijin coin, and I don’t regret a thing) I’d love to see a guide on how I can more effectively avoid radar missiles, considering how many times I’ve been obliterated by Strelas in GRB already

@vukasinrebic1707

3 ай бұрын

Strela is ir missle. And its absolutely bonkers. It dosent care about range or flares or evasive manouvers. If you get locked 90% of time you die thats it. Just fly rly low so they cant see you at all from trees or whatever and you should be fine bcs it dosent have any radar at all.

@tangohotel2599

3 ай бұрын

@@vukasinrebic1707 yeah that’s what I try but then I usually get picked off by either a Pantsir or a 2S6

They’re good it’s the r-27er is in a league of its own lmao no contest, it’s just absurd

13:47 Flanker IS actually broken in-game. - It's RWR should have higher angles on which it can detect enemy's radars - It's radar should have almost double lock distance in TWS mode (about 80 KM) and stable lock around 100 KM in TWS HDN mode - It's flight model is still underperforming quite much; It should fuck everything in the game in ine-circle, but for some stupid reason, it can't outturn even a fucking MiG-29SMT, let alone something as good as F-15/F-16 - It's engines are supposed to be a bit stronger than they are Honorable mention is that it's cockpit is also quite not exactly as it should be. I've been in a cockpit of a real Flanker on "МАКС" airshow and it's a bit different. Though, it might've been a modification. So, all summed up - Yes, Flanker is broken... Since it underperforms so hard, it's not even "balancing" anymore. I'd rather to play with R-27ERs against AMRAAMs but properly flying jet, than it is now.

@DonutWithMustache

2 ай бұрын

- you are correct about the RWR stuff. - The radar did not have the upgraded TWS, at least not the variant we have ingame (base model N001 radar). You are speaking of the N001V which we will get on future variants of the Flanker. - the flight model is perfect. The instructor is not. In air RB the plane flies like shit because the ingame instructor limits its AoA, similar to the swedish J-35 or the french Mirage F.1. If you try the Flanker in simulator battles (where there is no instructor), it flies incredibly well. - Gaijin is using thr "intake loss" excuse for artificially nerfing the engine (the same excuse they used to make the F-15, MiG-29, and Mirage F1 engines weaker.) - The cockpit is correct, at least for a Su-27S. What you might have seen at MAKS was probably a upgraded export demonstrator, likely Su-27SM or SK. Also no the flanker is not "underperforming". Its strong, just not the strongest (Gripen takes the cake).

@MrSukaBlyat

2 ай бұрын

@@DonutWithMustache You're probably right about the radar and cockpit; We Russians are quite bad when it comes to mass-producting complicated things and even serial vehicles can have notable differences, when legaly still being the same exact model. And now, especially after almost 40 years after Flanker's introduction, it's quite hard to find proper data even on Russian. Intructor is really one hell of a weird thing. If it's what is limiting the Flanker (And probably many other planes, like Fulcrum-F), then Gaijin probably should do something about it (except they won't bc it's gaijin) The point that I'm trying to make - Personally, SMT is much more enjoyable to me when comparing how it performs and how Flanker does. Yes, I can't become a BVR bus really, but do I even need to, considering how everyone is playing? And when merging with someone - this plane is at least capable with outturning people, unlike the Sukhoy's brick. The fact that on same airspeed Flanker can pull only 11-12 G in a turn and F-15 can do almost 15-16 G isn't funny at all, imo, when remembering that these planes are surprisingly close IRL to each other in terms of flight performance and should be going toe to toe. But oh well. Upd: Also, I don't own basically anything except for the Soviets and (very soon) US jets, so I can't really compare all toptier vehicles by myself, so you definitely have more experience here. I (and probably many others) would actually love to see a video about this topic, with objective view on all the top planes we have currently.

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

​@@DonutWithMustacheconsidering flight model: compared to dcs flanker, su27 in wt performs really close, BUT it bleeds much more energy in subsonic maneuvers. In dcs, when pulling as hard as g-limiter allows at 700-750 kmph it performs a 180 horizontal turn as fast as in wt, but looses around 100kmph compared with 250-300 kmph in wt

I had a similar experience with the aim 9L. Everyone including my friends would complain when I managed to successfully use them.

The only thing I still don’t understand with radar AAMs is why so many of them seemingly fail to fuse or don’t track despite a solid lock, doesn’t matter what nation it is is just happens sometimes. Generally I do find sparrows to be perfectly fine tho and definitely believe player skill plays a huge part in how missiles perform

I played the f14a back on release and i loved the 6 sparrow combo. But in my opinion the reason why sparrows seem bad now is that people are more educated on how to defeat them. Before on F14A release, no one knew how to dodge them. I believe its a shift in the meta. Also Im only 6.23 into the vid I hope you didnt go over this :D

@user-if4zv5nj5m

Ай бұрын

From my experience sparrow is still a very deadly missile at br 12.0 and below. Planes there don't have complex rwrs and their countermeasures count is usually limited. I enjoy playing f14a with 6 sparrows even though I have unlocked f15 and su27 and from my experience sparrow is the best missile at that br

We could consider the remote possibility that, in a game notorious for spaghetti code, the “changes that weren’t nerfs”, still managed to break something in the Sparrow’s behavior

@InTheMood-fi3bh

3 ай бұрын

I’m sure that player skill has something to do with it, but a ton of people including other KZreadrs have reported that the sparrow is acting funky

@Purplegreen45

3 ай бұрын

@@InTheMood-fi3bh player skill has nothing to do with it, I have thousands of hours and just flat out stopped using the aim7 because it's a waste of pylon space. Missed 70% of the time on non-maneuvering targets above me, it's broken as fuck because Gaijin is incompetent as fuck, like always.

@InTheMood-fi3bh

3 ай бұрын

@@Purplegreen45 yeah, I don't know what the guy in the video is on about, sparrows are kind of broken right now

@Squeaky_Ben

8 күн бұрын

After managing to not score a kill on a F-104 that was: -not using chaff -not evading -not flying low -coming straight at me in a straight line -getting 4 AIM-7F fired at it I thoroughly have to question my sanity how this is even possible. I will upload the video soon.

i cant agree more to say sparrows are like a 50/50, they either do imposible kills, or fly straight to the ground or to space the moment i fire them even at high altitudes

honestly my opinion on the matter is that most dont know that sparrows DONT KNOW WHAT THE GROUND IS. theyll launch a sparrow while screaming around on the deck and then wonder why the missile goes into the ground since they expect it to act like an ir missile, yknow missile goes directly to target and you get a kill. to be honest i feel like this type of player will try the same thing but with an amraam, and get the same result only to go crying about it.

@Red_Lion2000

3 ай бұрын

well when the vast majority of the combat takes placce on the deck what do you expect? As someone who flies USSR and US at top tier, the R27ER is leagues above the aim7f-m. I actually die to the r27er, I never die to aim7's and aim54.

nailed it. top tier, because of the amount of knowledge required and the abundance of people rushing into it, is genuinely more about the pilot than the plane. this is why I can fly out something as dogshit as the FGR phantom, with 9Gs and E2s, into top tier, and get multiple kills per match on average. same goes for jets like the tornado or just slightly suboptimal ones like the tomcat. stats matter when the pilots are equally matched. knowledge is what matters when they’re not, and it’s why you die in your fancy F-15 against a harrier after he defeats all your sparrows and smacks you with a 9M, or why your 27ER misses and your target’s skyflash hits you in the face. genuinely, it’s not the plane, it’s the pilot. it’s part of what makes war thunder high tiers so fun. skill and knowledge matter more than your plane’s statcard more often than not, and it makes for satisfying gameplay. of course, 16v16 clusterfucks still cause plenty of issues, but it’s manageable most of the time if you try.

the only issues with it I've noticed are ones with the proximity fuse but that is a common issue with missiles, missiles not tracking off the rail which is a problem with all missiles, and when using it in air assault arcade sometimes they can't decide which bomber to hit and fly in between them. the missiles are more effective against players than they are against bots a lot of the time.

I would love to see a tutorial on notching and chaff use, have no clue how to do that and it limits my play style

And this video shows the reason, why i always say that i am a Goodish pilot. I can hold my self in a Dogfight, but when it comes to BVR? Yea im a bit of a lost cause there… but atleast i am trying to evade incoming missiles?

I haven't played in a while and I came to this video wondering "what did gaijin do to the sparrows? They were fine when I left?" I'm relieved that everything is fine

Your point on amerimains stands, But the reported problem was that aim7M would literally go straight for ground off the rail. I got into my f16adf, launched at a easy kill, went straight down. Took my f15, same problem. F14a, no problems at all with the F or E.

@a.e.richardson218

2 ай бұрын

I've had this issue with my 24r's and 27er's too its so cancer watching my missile eat dirt instant esp when I only have 2 ;-;

my sparrows are just flying right up and blows up 50% of the time

@elkrumb9159

3 ай бұрын

50%?????? What are you doing?

This video shows perfectly what's wrong with the top tier (I'm not a good player myself but doing Japanese and Russian trees for F15j and Mig 23s I learned something) the US players often are keyboard-clicking monkeys and sometimes they'll get something right but too often being the only Japanese F15 or F16 on the US team I knew it would be a loss. I do not want to offend anyone because I know very well that everyone has their own problems I myself am a wallet warrior but still my 1st top tier premium was bought after i had jets with missiles

Meteor goes hard with the kill montage

As someone who has played the J-11, I can quite confidently say that it's op af.

I love your montages in videos

Please teach me how to proper do bvrc (I am ussr main in air and I think I got IR and dogfights but I need help in bvr) more specifically how to notch and crank correctly with and without chaff and how to maintain lock for as long as possible when the enemy is executing defensive maneuvers.

@user-if4zv5nj5m

3 ай бұрын

1. Notch is pretty straightforward: turn until you'll see an enemy directly at 3/9 o'clock at your rwr, pull some small turns left/right/up/down while dropping chaff, and you should be good. Decreasing your speed also helps but it will haunt you later. 2. Notching without chaff is the same but requires extreme precision, so you better practice Notching with chaff and, when you'll master it, you won't need advises anymore) 3. Cranking is really simple-turn either left or right until the target is positioned at the very edge of your radar screen. Which side to crank depends on an overall tactical situation (crank towards your teammates, not other enemies) and weather you want to decrease the distance between you and your target for a consecutive shot or keep it as long as possible

Between 6 months and 12 months ago before the introduction of the F-16C, there was some problem with the code of the game or idk but suddenly 3 of 4 missiles launches in my Tomcat in easy head ons shots the missile drifted to the ground, rn the sparrows works better than ever, but u can check the reel on my channel, WT just dont work sometimes lol

holy you need to get the medal of honor for the sparrows

now we get the same with fox-3.

I had most promlems with my French fox 1 missiles but oh well I still don’t complain

My Sparrow experience goes like this: Completely ignores enemy evasive maneuvers, chaff and will just have its own radar to guide with because my lock is focused on a cloud of chaff, or it will launch from the rail and immediately nose dive into dirt when aiming at co-level/climbing targets.