The only problem with a side x side Shotgun is the guy who doesn't want to own one..!

@shaunosby5093

4 жыл бұрын

That's ok, I'll take his.

@georgehougiazos7001

4 жыл бұрын

I own 16 shotguns and have 3 side by sides..they are classy guns..traditional and if you can learn to shoot with them then your on a winner

@georgehougiazos7001

4 жыл бұрын

Yep a BENELLI auto in the pheasants..SMOKE EM

@aurora_-_

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@emmkay2513

3 жыл бұрын

Amen to that! Side by side is the classiest of all the shotguns in my opinion.

It is all true except for one thing when you miss with an over and under you just miss, with a side by side you still miss BUT IN STYLE!

@jeffersondavis2530

2 жыл бұрын

So very well said.!!!

@xeverettx2564

2 жыл бұрын

Oh truer words never spoken!!!!

@mrandmrsharper5971

2 жыл бұрын

Oh good sir, spot on

@frds_skce

Жыл бұрын

Technically, you suck at shooting And you're american too.

Someone needs to figure out how to ship all of these English side-by-sides to the US.

@bubbajones5905

5 жыл бұрын

www.vintagedoubles.com

@bubbajones5905

5 жыл бұрын

I just wish we could buy them for the prices they appear to be going for in the UK.

@MegaBoilermaker

5 жыл бұрын

@@bubbajones5905 I think that you have an import tariff/restriction problem.

@elemental4rce

5 жыл бұрын

most of the quality english guns are already there!

@vincedunn9983

5 жыл бұрын

A couple hundred??? Last one I saw (in America) was about $1000.

My advice is...make sure you buy yourself a side by side......take it out sometimes and enjoy the experience of shooting it....ok, you clay score may not be as good with it, but the smile on your face is very good compensation.

@nigelkavanagh2048

5 жыл бұрын

Very true Ken, I have won many clay shoots both down the line and sporting with my old AYA no2.and pretty handy at ducks and driven pheasant.

@burningcoal5705

4 жыл бұрын

For me I shoot clays way better with my Double Barrel than I do with my Pump Action. Then again I practice the most with Double Barrel

@RagingOatmeal

3 жыл бұрын

I found I enjoy shooting my great grandpas sxs more than my rem 870wingmaster. Theres something about the whole experience of it. More enjoyable allnway around.

The problem I have with owning six quality side-by-side, is I don't have nearly enough!

@wholeNwon

5 жыл бұрын

11 here and have room for more. So, am looking. Will there ever be enough? Doubt it.

@jsisisisjjsjsjsj2819

4 жыл бұрын

Do you use them?

@mikehenrybell2398

2 жыл бұрын

Ok boomer

Being an American, it blow my mind that y’all have all the fine English doubles over there and no one wants them.

@mattmartin1258

3 жыл бұрын

Ian Ritchie thankfully it can make them cheap. I picked up a 1906 Cogswell & Harrison with the makers original case for 360 gbp and a Laurona with mint barrels for £75 😊 I like the fact no one wants them

@julienpharand-genest1839

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmartin1258 how have found them ? I can only dream of a deal like that !

@annabeltheunicorn9374

3 жыл бұрын

Just log on to uk gun trader you should see one you like. However its proberly your goverment who will charge you mega bucks to import one. Perhaps wait for a free trade deal . Just watch out some of those guns are a bit thin in the barrels and its not like Amazon with thier return policy. Come over some time when all this crap is over. Steer clear of London its a shithole and full of well spoken arseholes lol

@mrcaboosevg6089

2 жыл бұрын

The good thing is they're cheap but that also means a lot of them get scrapped

@1992jamo

2 жыл бұрын

I recently inherited my grandfathers Charles Boswell S&S 12G. I've shot clays with U&O, but this thing I've got is a real thing of beauty. It's so well machined, hand etched, had tens of thousands of rounds through it, but still tight as new.

when guns are so rare that you can name your gun shop the gun shop

@howey935

5 жыл бұрын

KazooLordHD unfortunately that’s the U.K. the silly cunts in parliament were even talking about banning knives.

@mungo7136

5 жыл бұрын

@@howey935 Thing is - to have with you on the street anything designed to cause harm (even a small piece of plastic rod) per-se is already illegal in UK as was many times explained. Trouble us that cunts in Europarlament (as was told in some news) are thinking about banning the possession of the knives they declare to be dangerous (and obviously, slowly expanding this ban in future).

@JohnDoe-iw7zc

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and its like playing mine sweeper with your life in Europe

@anton6529

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-iw7zc It's not really. More people have died of mass shootings in the US than of bombs in Europe.

@joew8013

5 жыл бұрын

Antonbombom compare violent crimes in New York to London though

With an over and under you get more birds, with a side by side you get more invites.

I really liked your video. I would like to say that when I was a young man, at my first hunting license (year 1982), my father gave me a side by side cal. 12\70 made by a craftsman in Brescia. It is with me even now. it failed five times (three times the springs of the hammers, one time broking of the stock and one time deformation of a firing pin after a primer perforation) but every time I repaired and use it again now. she have shot down every animal legally huntable in my country(italy)I love her and will take with me for all my life. (excuse my bad english)

@shaunosby5093

4 жыл бұрын

I have no criticism. Your English is better than my Italian.

@jsisisisjjsjsjsj2819

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaunosby5093 thanks for laugh. Also to the Italian storyteller thanks for your time😊

@RockfordOrdnance

3 жыл бұрын

No apology necessary! Your love of your gun and its heritage shows through and can be felt when reading your short story. It is a feeling most true gun lovers know well. It is partially the gun, partially the memories it evokes and partially the craftsmanship that can be marveled at. There is something about the perfect blend of walnut and steel gifted to a son by a loving father in order to carry on the age old tradition that cannot be replaced by anything else. Its too bad the anti gun crowd cannot feel what we feel if not just for a moment.

@C_Tutt

2 жыл бұрын

U got better English than half the kids in America , I don’t like typing correctly bc I’m lazy

@jeffersondavis2530

2 жыл бұрын

I respect and admire your relationship with your sxs.

My dream gun is a Holland and Holland Royal Side by Side... I'll never be able to afford it, but man are those some wonderful guns!

@AnthonyCribbs

5 жыл бұрын

my dream is an H&H double rifle that's royalty in a weapon

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

My dream gun is an Auto 5 I own 3. 😁

@charlespayne2002

5 жыл бұрын

That's a fact

@annabeltheunicorn9374

3 жыл бұрын

Better still a matched pair. Made and fitted just for you.

@anthonycapuano8554

2 жыл бұрын

I tell people my H&H double is on back order…. Lost in the supply chain along with my Rolls Royce and my Patek Phillipe 😂

*Have you EVER seen an under and over sawn off shotgun? Side by sides are just cooler!!!*

@tgsoutdoors

5 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 😂 brilliant

@john-paulsilke893

5 жыл бұрын

Come to Canada where they are legal assuming they were built that way and at least 26” overall. Still sxs look so cool although they push a little out of line when shooting especially the outside barrel, right barrel if you are a righty. It’s a very small effect but noticeable, however your inside barrel is better controlled in contrast, (at least for me, perhaps it’s my presentation?).

@jacobmccandles1767

5 жыл бұрын

In point of fact, yes. Chuck Norris used one in the movie "Hitman". Ol' Chuck made it look cool, but no, it didn't look right.

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobmccandles1767 I heard that chuck was offered a side by side but it was a Baikal so he went for the under and over.

@druesirmons3841

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Cribbs. You took the words out of my mouth lol

Pretty much everyone I have shot game with in the UK over the last 5 years shoots S/S. If you're talking clays then yes, O/U is used nearly 100% of the time. The problem with this video is that it is based on supply/demand in the market. That is not the same as usage in the field. I have 6 S/S shotguns, but how many have I bought or sold over the last 10 years? Zero. So yes, O/Us are more popular now, because of the reasons you mention, but to say that nobody uses them any more is wrong.

For a classic side by side, you may want to consider a Birmingham made (and largely hand built) Wembley and Scott 700 series from the 1960's/70's. They shoot beautifully. Classic lines with low weight and very reliable

@heathsmith1537

4 ай бұрын

I own a ‘74 W&S 700 and shoot with nothing else, beautiful bit of kit

Elegant side by side versus bulky over and under? No contest for.me !

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah just buy a sleek Auto 5

@grits_taste_good415

4 жыл бұрын

I'd have to say a over/under is less bulky

@rupertmcnaughtdavis3649

Жыл бұрын

@@bosstube9046 Rather an auto 5 than an over- and - under!

Here in the States, cowboy action sports keep the side by side alive in the market.

@OldeCountryHomesteading

3 жыл бұрын

Its unfortunate that CAS larpers are the ones keeping it alive. Need to get the wingshooters shooting sxs again.

@RockfordOrdnance

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldeCountryHomesteading I just bought one , just in time for this years pheasant season. There is just something so elegant about an English stock, splinter forend and double triggers. Dam its sexy!

@blakedavis2447

2 жыл бұрын

Old timers like double barrels for hunting in the states.

@douglasmcneil8413

2 жыл бұрын

@@blakedavis2447 Well, I guess I'm kind of an old timer. 😊

I learned to hunt birds with a pump gun. But when I became an adult my first shotgun I bought was a SXS. I just feel there is just something classy about a SXS

@kuessebrama

Жыл бұрын

I want to have one too. I have an over and under but side x sides look way cooler in my opinion.

As an aside, my brother in law was over from Cyprus recently. From what he tells me the value of side by sides has held over there. When I was showing him the online prices of AYAs’ over here he was close to tears.

So if you’re more competitive go for for the over/under, if you’re more relaxed and just enjoy a shoot, grab a side by side 🤷‍♂️

I don’t mind having a lower score at sporting clays. Love my sxs’s, and I hope my daughter does when she’s old enough to shoot.

I enjoyed your article, and today how true it is. I recently had a comment that my side by side was a relic, in reality it was worth more than the car he was driving. I also very much enjoy hand loading for my older guns in either black powder or smokeless, all traditional with never a plastic wad and a roll crimp.

@michelt4390

3 жыл бұрын

I wish there was easier/cheaper way to import a SxS from the UK...

I love side x side shotguns. I love the feel, balance, and vintage appearance. I find the wider, shallower forearm is more comfortable in my hand than the narrower and deeper forearm of over/unders. CZ just started marketing their Sharptail 28 gauge with 3" chambers. It just made my bucket list for grouse, woodcock, and chukar. As far as semi-autos go, I'm not a big fan, but my Remington 1100 Sporting .410 may be my favorite gun. I love the clean lines, soft recoil, and buttery smooth action. I can run 90+ clays on a 100 bird course with it.

@calebrambis1775

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I've been eyeballing the CZ Bobwhite G2 in 28 for my next toy.

@sdriza

8 ай бұрын

Have an 1100 in 20... might be my fave too

With an over and under you get more birds. With a side by side you get more invites.

@thatsallfolks9702

3 жыл бұрын

Well said Mate!

I just bought a Parker 12 gauge SxS from a 88 year old man, his father gave it to him back in 1974. This is the first time it’s been out of the family since it was purchased new. It’s now 121 years old. It’s a beautiful gun, and my most treasured firearm.

That .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer on the top right shelf tho :o

This is good news for us old fogeys that love side by side guns! I find that a SS is much lighter than an O/U, and, down here, beats are unheard of, we shoot over pointer dogs, so that implies a lot of walking, thus, a lighter gun is just the ticket.

It always amazes me when someone comes up and says that a certain gun is a problem or no good. It's usually a gun that has been around longer than the person who has this wealth of information and literally thousands of units sold to shooters around the world. So enjoy their cute little stories about how little they know about the gun they feel is below their standards and enjoy using it long after they fade away

@vincentking9980

Жыл бұрын

An interesting observation. My first shotgun was a side by side, with external hammers, and two triggers, and fixed choke barrels.. basically I had a wider sighting plane, and INSTANT choke selection, plus visual reference as to which barrel was cocked, lol! I do like the idea of a hammerless side by side, with interchangeable chokes, and two triggers :) I've got nothing against under and overs, but I've never used one myself.

Just before the start of this game season I bought a sxs. Nothing special (asi game gun) and it was purely to scratch an itch. I had a couple of mornings on the clays to get used to it and shot really well with it. And I've got to say, I love it . I shoot well with it, it's lighter than my o/u, and there is a real traditional feel about it. The only thing I don't like is the chokes are a bit more open than I'd like at cylinder and 1/4. Would have preferred 1/2 and 1/2. Anyway, sxs fan here keeping the dream alive lol.

Side by sides for me. Just as effective and much more pleasant.

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

Not as pleasant as an Auto 5

@myleschilton3473

5 жыл бұрын

bosstube Yeuch.

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

@@myleschilton3473 I have no idea what that means

@frankserra6709

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 99%/never shot Urgartechea Model 30 SxS, 28" barrels choked F&F, Case Colored Boxlock action with scroll engraving, includes original leather sling and beautiful dark wood. Paid $850., plus shipping total under $900., and DON'T HAVE ANY REGRETS...From what I've read, this 30 preceeds the new reopened Urgartechea Family name businesses and is now called the model 40. I've seen pictures of both and I'll take my 30 over the new 40. Where can we SxS Aficionados find these UNWANTED & UNFULFILLED....Urr Shotguns in England or here in the USA ?

@redroverredrover5311

3 жыл бұрын

I have CZ Coach gun ordered and only needs me picking up.It has 20 in barrel,3 in choke,hammers....now Im not so sure its such a prize.

You had me at tradition. Take my money.

Ive only owned, and will allways own, double triggered SxS. I do not like the "feel" of a O/U a d dont really trust a single trigger. SxS just feels more natural for me.

I bought an Aya Yeoman to accompany my OU and semi auto, 35 to 40 years old, cost £150, great condition and great fun, but I'll agree that with me not being the best shot in the World, I do miss more than with the OU or semi auto, lovely to look at as you say and great to have one sat in the gun cabinet.

My dad is a big fan of the over and under. Give me the classic side by side any day.

This video did exactly the opposite of what it was supposed to

I’m 17 and I’ve pretty much only ever shot sxs, I started when I was about 6 on a single barrel 410 just to get the ropes in a wood with my dad and quickly moved into an AYA sxs 28 bore, I took that to my first ever driven shoot and that was what I was dropped into. A few years down the line I was claying with a mate and he’d just got a 20 bore berreta and I had a try and it was different to my AYA but I just preferred the feel of a sxs so I stuck with it a few years back now when I was 13/14 I tried out my dads AYA sxs 12 bore and I was hooked after that a year later my grandad gave me his BSA sxs 12 bore (which was my dad first 12 bore and also my grandads first gun he bought) and I was hooked i still use it to this day and I love the look surprised people give when they see someone my age shooting a sxs still

@stevenward6453

5 жыл бұрын

Good lad I love side by side's have shot with every thing from a 410 too an 8bore double side by side 12 and 10 bore autos Beretta over and unders in 12 and 20 bore but nothing on this planet shoots more natural than a good side by side that fits you just don't think you just shoot keep it up man brilliant

@jamesfairmind2247

5 жыл бұрын

Congratulations, you are a discerning man of taste and not a sheep who simply follows what everyone else does.

@idleonlooker1078

5 жыл бұрын

Good on you!! I've used both u/o and sxs- and for me nothing compares to a lovely side by side!! Classy and elegant for sure - and yet so beautiful to use!! 👍

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

Pick up an Auto 5 you'll never touch a SxS or OU again

@flyingtigers7856

4 жыл бұрын

@@bosstube9046 are you able to make any other comment???

"People don't learn to shoot walking the hedge rows with their Father, Uncle etc" paraphrased, but that pretty sums up more problems than this video could possibly cover.

@tgsoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Very true 😞

Good video. Thank you. I live in the states and shoot very challenging walk up in the mountains. The reason I take my sxs more often is the weight savings. I take more punishment in recoil, but I don't shoot it as often as a target gun. I don't shoot any gun better or worse than another. I've done the work and know how to shoot. What I believe will be the death knell for Edwardian & Victorian guns will be the ban on lead (as we now have in California). I did just pick up a Dickinson 20 bore. 20ga. Light. Double trigers. Full set of thin wall chokes.

@tgsoutdoors

5 жыл бұрын

With the ban on lead, is it only steel that has really taken off? We still sell limited quantities on bismuth and tungsten matrix load

@scottnathanphoto

5 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors We have steel, tungsten matrix and Hevi-shot. The trouble is that steel while inferior with respect to density and killing power is still affordable. Hevi for example is around $50.00 per box of 25. Bismuth is a bit cheaper and more old gun friendlier. That said, if one cares, it's a very toxic substance.

@franksmith8210

5 жыл бұрын

We tested some bismuth shells last year here in central California on quail and they did fantastic. That's what we plan to use this season.

I’ve got an AYA Yeoman and enjoy shooting it. My safe queen at the moment is an unused 20b Tempio light. I think most people nowadays tend to have a number of different shotguns for different uses, a pump or semi for instance for wildfowling, an over and under for clays and a side by side for rough shoots and Days. Let’s face it, for the price of a weekend away you can pick up a nice S xS, why not buy one and preserve another shotgun for the next generation? Next purchase for me is probably a sidelock.

@eric44707

5 жыл бұрын

Engin Hussein how do you like that tempio. I just picked up a 20b Magnus. Not a safe queen though. I’m gonna hunt it. But cautiously. Lol

I like the triple barreled :D

@dalekidd420

5 жыл бұрын

I hope you're talking about a European-made Drilling, because Chiappa's "Triple Threat" is an overweight, awkward POS... It feels like a fencepost and weighs more than a fully loaded "tacticool" pump gun with extended mag tube and half a dozen ridiculous add-ons hanging from the forend!

@genericclass4058

5 жыл бұрын

Look up Lancaster Quad Barrel

@Goatboysminion

5 жыл бұрын

Love the Chiappa!

@dalekidd420

5 жыл бұрын

@@Goatboysminion Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder... I find them overweight, unbalanced, and ugly.

@diamonddog257

5 жыл бұрын

from Canada : screw you air-heads ... I was invited to a great manor house ... outside London; To ostensibly purchase a 'new-old' triple barrel .. [ and it was all 20g .... Not a drilling ] - and 150,000$ [CAN] Similarly .... I was strong enough to lift and point a 4-bore Double ...... Now this was 'Sporting'

Just stumbled across this channel today. Good video and presentation, you get straight to the point! I'm more of a target shooter than shotgun shooter but wanted to support your channel so have subbed anyway 👍

Alays give u guys a thumbs up cuz ur shows amazing. Ive only had a license for past three years and always wanted a sidebyside because its where it came from. First gun was a 690 field 3 because i saved up for it but always wanted a side by side. Im definitely coming to ur shop for my first side by side so look forward to seen you

I wonder why all the best shots in the world shoot over and under's, surely they must all be wrong. It was considered very unsporting to use a breech loader when the muzzle loader was in fashion. It's called progress guys!

@Shelldrakeaus

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. It's like when you pull out a metal chassis long range rifle and all the crusty old men turn up their nose.

@bobmasencup5819

5 жыл бұрын

It's not just about the destination but about the journey. Once you fish with a fly rod you will understand this. You catch fewer fish but the ones you land are infinitely more rewarding. Same with the SxS. If you're going to war, use the semi-auto. If going for the enjoyment, use the SxS. A souped up muscle car will get you to your destination faster, but a Rolls Royce Corniche will make the trip a hell of a lot more enjoyable. Slow down and enjoy the journey my friend.

@rustyshackleford17

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobmasencup5819 I never understood the SxS fetish. If you like them, cool. However, there isn't some mystical properties about them that makes you sit down and write poetry about trees blowing in the wind and seeing shapes of fluffy animals in the clouds...

@bigrich7026

2 жыл бұрын

I used to work at a shotgun shooting range. Clays, trap, skeet and some 8-13 station monster machine my boss made up (which the big machine was nice cause I pulled from the seat and just hit proper combo of buttons) when there was a disagreement or someone thought they were hot shit he would make me hand throw ritz crackers. I think it's time to get out the Ritz cracker thrower guys..

I believe your right on all accounts. I'm new to shooting but I have an o/u and a semi auto. But I want a side by side just like my father had. My local shooting grounds you may have 1 or possibly 2 shooting a s/s but very rare. I'd say over the last year 60% are o/u the rest are now semi auto's.

I have the Stoeger uplander 12 gauge with 28" barrels also rated for steel shot . 3" chambers. Cylinder, modified, modified/ improved and full choke. I love it so far 9 ruffed grouse and a pheasant this hunting season.

Would love to see you do a review on the Stoeger Uplander/Longfowler sxs

My grandad taught me to shoot with a side by side from a moving sidecar on his motorcycle when I was about 12 or 13.

I prefer the satisfaction of get from hitting something with my side by side than I can ever get from my over under browning

Good video! Thanks for the info !

I have both SBS and O/U and shoot clays with both - they are very different but both very special to shoot. Great opinion piece.

I'm not gonna lie I want to own a SxS so that I can pair it with my snub-nosed .357

I learned to shoot with my grandad sitting on the back of the tractor with his old SXS. There will always be one in my cabinet to keep the memories alive. Nothing quite like pulling out a 100 year old hand build sxs at a shoot and banging away next to the O/U crowd.

My father in law owns a late 1800's side by side coach gun(I call it that because his Grandfather work the stagecoaches for Wells Fargo in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.) As far as I know it has not been fired since the 1940's. He has other shotguns and just has the Side by side as a historic piece.

I have one of both but love my side by side and never get rid of it, lovely light gun especially for snap shooting!!!

Oddly I own Both types, and my scores are virtually identical, Remember you don,t `LOOK` at the barrels its 80% out there and 20%-ish. . barrels You point a shotgun not `aim` hence good fit and eyes (?) Fashion has caused this trend. I also shoot Auto`s Seemples to shoot, and don,t knock you about. . its horses for courses . , go and try BOTH (3)!!

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

Sofalugger. Totally agree mate. Its all about fit. Nothing else.

@sofalugger

5 жыл бұрын

Spot On..Just shot 25 Str8 @ wi 40+yr owd B25. .(Adjst stock) Seemples. . . .

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

@@sofalugger well done👏👏👏

Totally disagree, side by sides are making a comeback!

@abdullahal-shimri3091

4 жыл бұрын

like the fountain pen or film photography

@la_old_salt2241

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahal-shimri3091 Some of us still write with fountain pens also thanks.

@Thisisahandle701

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahal-shimri3091 lol 👍

@416loren

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought one. CZ Bobwhite, 28 ga.

Excellent Channel !

Plz give review over turky made mavoric shotgun mising and sometimes double fire problem. Thanx

Mobile chokes. Steel proofed. Single trigger. Pistol grip. Great features on a side by side. Hmmm sounds like a fabarm classis 12.

I must be the exception to the rule then...got an O/U (double trigger) and a Semi in the cabinet, next purchase will definitely be a sxs...why the heck not? They're just prettier!

@roeng1368

5 жыл бұрын

They are very light if you are rough shooting over hilly ground where the going is hard. Every ounce counts if you are carrying a gun for hours.

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

Nothings prettier than an Auto 5

@johnm3907

5 жыл бұрын

bosstube are you married to your auto 5? And its a spud ugly gun

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnm3907 no but I've yet to find a woman that can match her looks

That declining demand has forced prices to lower on double barrel side by sides for product lines to stay sales competitive. I took advantage of that, and in doing so, I have had very good experiences with the Churchill Akkar 500 series, long barrel, wood stock, side by sides. They are beautiful, simple, and affordable machines, and I love the tradition associated with them. The build quality is fantastic, but it is hard to teach people to use them, because, like you said, they have an unconventional sight picture. They are viewed as an interesting yet almost decorative antiquity by most people at the range, even though they aren't old guns. They perform perfectly and reliably for harvesting game, and have fed me well for many nights, but I feel that in time, they may be something left only to rich firearms collectors and museums. Thanks for the video~

30-40 quid for a side by side? dayummmmmmm they go for so much more here in the US than our pump or semis are even on par with over and under price wise.

The best posotive of the side by side is that it looks awesome

A day in the field with a truly superb double at a bargain price is certainly worth the cost of bismuth.

Hi Johnny, just picked up a 1968 Elgoibar 12 Gauge. Really good fun and enjoyed and will continue to enjoy shooting it. It has a side pin that locks the barrels in place through the fences. Is this unusual or just particular to that gun? Would love some info! Cheers! Keep up the good work...

My double barrel is the first gun I've ever bought and I'm really happy with it. Its never once jammed on me, had a problem, and I can use 9mm adaptors to practice target shooting in a normal range. I also love the ability to turn on safety since I need to be able to sling it over my shoulder and walk around while hunting. Most shotguns don't have a safety you need to have the shell unchambered.

@wholeNwon

3 жыл бұрын

I've never seen a shotgun without a safety and I've been around for a while. Long ago some pigeon ring guns were built without them.

@juto8809

5 ай бұрын

My guy where do you find a shotgun for hunting without safety?

On a technical level, there is no question that an Over and Under is more effective for the everyday shooter. However. I shoot with both but I always enjoy a Side by Side far more for several reasons. Firstly, it is far more elegant and Gentlemanly, and if I don't kill quite so many birds then the relatively small difference in score is a small sacrifice for shooting with some style and grace with a wonderful piece of craftsmanship and sense of history, rather than with an intent of cold industrial slaughter. In my experience those in the gun-line who only think about kill ratios are not the sort of people you would want as friends (and they nearly always drive flash cars and seem very insecure) I mean, if you just want to kill then what does that say about you?

@tgsoutdoors

5 жыл бұрын

Feeling a lot of people got the wrong impression of this video - pro- side by side revival video is a must

Still the best looking guns though.

Iv been shooting sxs since a very young age, and have only ever used a o/u once on a guest day I didn't know I was shooting on. Even though I would love to buy one, I keep picking up my old Holloway and naughton because it works and looks so damb sexy.

Good video. My answer, you need both because there is nothing like shooting a beautiful old side by side with a double trigger.. makes me smile and reminds me of when I started shooting.

Well they have no appreciation for the classics

As an American, both over/under and side by sides are no longer popular, it's all about semi-autos

@elgringo5137

5 жыл бұрын

RogueSquadronWeapons sucks considering the reliability comparison. I hope the oxu's and sxs's come back around for that reason.

@jacobmccandles1767

5 жыл бұрын

RogueSquadronWeapons as your fellow yank I would say that has a lot to do with game populations and publicly available hunting. Given a limit of 8 partridge, 4 grouse, 3 pheasant, and 15 doves, 7 ducks, 4 dark geese, and 7 snow geese, and a very good chance of bagging much of this on the same day or two, semis make sense. Having a 3rd, 4th, 5th, and sometimes 6th round on board is nice when quail or partridge provide a loose flush. They also ease the recoil of heavy 3" and 3 1/2" duck and goose loads, or an active day in a dove stand or at the trap club. I like my doubles, but my self shuckers and trombones get more play.

@jacobmccandles1767

5 жыл бұрын

Anti Federal there was a time when the LAPD used Stevens SxSs for serving high risk warrants. #4 in the first barrel, and #4 Buck in the other. Something about doubles being appropriate for dangerous game, be it beast or man. ...and yet now we see semi-autos in the same roll, with lives at stake, in spite of the fact that shotguns tend to settle the matter with just a round or two. I can only surmise they have improved. Would I be afraid to use a double barrel for that purpose? I have, and no (though no shots were fired). Would I be afraid of a well maintained self loader? Also no.

@roguesqadronairsoft

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobmccandles1767 well you see, my comment was supposed to poke at bongistanis about not being able to own semi auto shotguns, or at least without tight control.

@jacobmccandles1767

5 жыл бұрын

RogueSquadronWeapons i confess I had temporarily forgotten about that. Indeed, the biggest reason for those of us on the left side of the pond is: because we can.

So I'm gonna be looking for a SBS double barrel pretty soon. From the beginning of the video, it seems like a good idea to visit England, buy it, and ship it to the states.

Great interesting video. I have to agree with you. But I will always have a side by side in the gun cabinet as I like to nod to tradition 👍

Agree with all points here. However, I’d add another reason I didn’t consider a SxS as my first gun - the only ones that were available were much older and much more likely to require work on them. The second-hand OU was only a few years old and much less likely to cost me money in repairs in the next few years. It was a similar attitude to buying my first car - I had an average budget, would have considered anything, but the running costs were a big factor! I would love to try a newish Parallelo and would definitely still consider buying a SxS

I think the next big thing will be semi auto's. My brother as been saying it for ages. It won't be long before you see them on game shoots. There design allows more tech to reduce recoil ect.

@AlexSmith-lr5uo

6 ай бұрын

Semi autos, mostly have been banned.

I have both and love them.

You are a brave man fair comments I’m old school side x side for me I can shoot equally I find no advantages or disadvantages. Thanks for sharing 👍👌🦆

I shoot sxs and an in the market for a sensible £400 job so let me know next time you’re throwing one out👍🏻🇬🇧

From what I'm seeing here in the 'colonies' (America) is that SXS's are getting a BIT more prevalent. Certainly, O/U are more numerous. Automatics are becoming the default shotgun.

@wholeNwon

5 жыл бұрын

Semi-auto.

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

Auto 5s for life

I have shot O/Us since I started shooting 30 years ago. Current main gun is a Superposed I recently picked up a Merkel sbs and I'm finding that it fits well and it shoots as well as my O/Us on our club sporting ground. Putting a recoil pad has helped with recoil, with factory loads, and also fits me better now. I usually hand load 7/8 oz and it's a pussycat with these loads and the clays still break. Paid about 175 stl which is crazy as a new merkel is about 1500 over here.

I have learned on all types of flat shooting sxs o/u pump or semi great video , most people go with their first gun type.

Why side by side? Because Doom.

I'll keep my Coach Gun.

So true I learnt to shoot a with old English sxs 25years ago had lamber o/u for first gun which was great gun then changed it for Beretta 682 gold as you do upgrade changed it for fabarm classis 2 years ago and cost a lot to change but I think it worth it a they are great for rough shooting get a bit hot at clays and always have someone asking to have shot with it

Have you got any kofs sceptre sxe 12 bores to do a review on ?

Good video - I think it is horses for courses. I have a big heavy Nikko O/U trap gun with which I can shoot clays for hours without recoil fatigue but it's a couple of pounds heavier than my Webley & Scott 700 sxs, hence the latter is harder on the shoulder but easier to carry. Both shoot equally accurately when I do my part, but neither are as accurate as my two Browning Auto5s. The reality is that the semi-autos are a superior design to either design of double barrel gun because they have a single barrel, with no parallax between shots.

@joaolitos

5 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who nows something about guns... The rest all kids , probably they never shot a gun

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

@@joaolitos You really are a dick

I only ever use a Semi or a Pump gun on Game / Pigeon shoots, or in the Field

@oltsah7629

5 жыл бұрын

Shot many years with an over under, never touching one again. They are in no comparison to pumps or semiautos.

@bosstube9046

5 жыл бұрын

@@oltsah7629 try an Auto 5 handles and points kinda like a mix of both

Which is EXACTLY why I have bought two, old, beautifully crafted side by sides. An enormous return in beauty and hand-made, old school, gunsmithing craftsmanship for a very reasonable price. Oh...and I also have a run-of-the-mill, CNC machined, production line over/under for actual competition.

Can you ship some of these really cheap SXSs to the United States? More specifically, can I buy some and have 'em shipped over?

I took your advice and bought a Baikal side by side IJ58 not a bad gun

@MegaBoilermaker

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 50 year old Baikal 16 gauge hammer gun that is as tight as the day I bought it new.

@GWLAD

5 жыл бұрын

Lilac Tortoise well that’s your opinion and your entitled to it

I much prefer a sxs for practical reasons. They're more comfortable to carry broken over your arm, the cartridges don't fall out or partially fall out like in the top barrel of an OU, so when you go to close the gun to take a shot the gun won't close. They're easier to load too. The double trigger and auto safe are great features that take only a few moments of practice to become second nature to use, oh yeah, and they look much better too! I've a perfectly good beretta that sits in the cabinet unused and a semi auto with even more dust on it. If is shoot less accurately with a sxs than an ou it's by such a small percentage that it's unrecognisable in the field, maybe if you were keeping score clay shooting it would be there, but that's of little interest to me. Everything about an sxs is more pleasurable to use, in my eyes.

@ljp200

5 жыл бұрын

I have a very hard time seeing any of your points I must admit. More comfortable is a matter of habit, you hold a over and under a bit different, sxs tend to be a bit lighter weight so that may make a difference. I have no idea how you manage to have cartridges fall out. If the gun won't close you have a defective gun. Loading is a pure matter of practice on the different systems, I have seen as many students have problems with a sxs as an over and under. Personally I can use all systems and have thousands of rounds of training in both O/U and sxs. Auto safe is standard on any over and under game gun, what you describe are clay guns and if you prefer there are over and under guns with double triggers like there are sxs guns with single triggers. Managing the safety is to be automatic when you raise and lover the gun from shooting position meaning in an optimal world you would never use the automatic safety on either a O/U or a sxs. Looks are purely a matter of personal taste so no critique there ;) Everyone are to use whatever they see fit them better and I do have students that from the start prefer sxs and all the better, but I have

@timkelly633

5 жыл бұрын

@@ljp200 If you're rough shooting and have a broken but loaded OU then the cartridge in the top barrel of the OU can move so that it's not fully in the chamber, you then try to close the gun and the cartridge stops it from closing. If you don't rough shoot or shoot walked up you wouldn't have the issue, but I can't be the only one who's had that trouble with an OU?

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

@@timkelly633 Instant barrel selection on a double trigger gun is an advantage not to be overlooked as well mate. I love a traditional gun myself.

@joaolitos

5 жыл бұрын

You don't own any gun

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

5 жыл бұрын

@@joaolitos ONLY 9.

Would love to see some of those old SxS’s available in the US. My dad has a German 16 gauge and I just bought my first 12 gauge. I love them….

I love my side by sides! My kid thinks I'm old fashioned. Go figure lol. "C'mon Pop, get with the times and dump those double bubbles!" NOT A CHANCE!

I'm 22, been a sgc holder since 13, I started to shoot with silver sabel in 20g and when I moved up to 12g I was shooting a Davidson sxs, John macnab highlander, 1871 William Rochester Pape and a franchi affinity 1. I have always regretted selling my silver sabel and when I was buying cartridges yesterday, I seen a 12g silver sabel deluxe for sale. Immediately picked it up and felt at home with it. Its now in my cabinet! I will always use sxs, I shoot better with them and prefer the look of them. So much so that I will soon be parting with the macnab highlander

I shoot a 1912 German Hubertus 16 Bore SxS... I love it. It is a handsome piece that exudes charm and style. Shooting it says so much without me saying a word.

I'm very fortunate because on the shooting etate that I live on nearly the whole team of guns are side-by-side and it's really a splendid site to watch and shoot with

I already have a SXS Merkel. I'd really love to have a SXS Hammer gun too.

All very true . My 1st 12 bore i got when i was a kid was a ward and son hammergun made in late 1800s. Still got it and its in excellent condition. As tight on the face as the day it was made . In the last 35 years only one v spring been replaced for many thousands of cartridges shot out the old pipes. And can break clays off the high tower with it using comp ex fibre which pattern very even in it just as easy as i can with my Berreta o.u. love all guns but theres just something about a s.s. Especially if its ENGLISH🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.

Im a surgeon with my sxp 41/50 on clays when the top gun got 40. Id love to do pheasants with it shame we cant ....yet

We were kids and my friend and I would go out quail hunting. I had my dad's 410 and Jeff had his dad's side by side 12 ga.. For a bit of fun jeff would put in two shells and point it in a safe direction and pull both triggers at the same time. He was always proud of the slightly black and blue mark's that were left on his arm.

OMG. John you're killing me. I found an AyA No.1 that looks to be in very nice condition for under half of cost new.. I was considering it. Now I'm not so sure. Maybe for the better. I can spend the money on more shells and a few hunting trips. Thanks for your honest take on the subject.

@elemental4rce

5 жыл бұрын

find a decent #2 for 700-1200 if you can, great solid guns and heavy enough to use all day but still feel nice to use and also usually have 2 3/4 chambers if you feel that's relevant for you

@danhill6333

5 жыл бұрын

@@elemental4rce Sadly that may be a tall order in that price range here in the USA. AyA doesn't seem to be as available and prices on gunbroker are a bit above that range. I will keep my eyes open. Thanks for recommendation.

@elemental4rce

5 жыл бұрын

@@danhill6333 didn't realise you were in the U.S! I think a lot of expensive English guns go to America collectors now but I don't know what the average market for sbs are like in America. Hope you find something :)

@danhill6333

5 жыл бұрын

@@elemental4rce SxS are definitely a niche market in the US. It's the same here as Johnny describes in England. Originally the only reason I both a SxS was to shoot two vintagers matches a year. But as I've been watching more videos like The Gun Shop and others I'm getting more interested in SxS especially nicer ones that are within my budget.