Tbh New Jeans getting all those luxury brand ambassadorships within less than a year after debuting is definitely privilege, especially since all of them are teenagers and those brands are rather for adults

@someotheralias

2 ай бұрын

That's really insinuating that big global brands are risking laws for a Korean company that isn't even 10% of their market value. Global brands are looking at trends and NJs is trending. If it's per you're logic, every idol in Hybe would be a lux brand ambassador. It's clear to me that everyone in this video comment have no understanding of how the market works globally. Like it blows my mind that you guys think a country that isn't even top 10 of global economies, can influence major global brands to make back door deals and break laws. And not just one, 20 or 30 different global brands for ONE kpop group. Also to note, global lux brands have brand deals with trending artists in a lot of countries. China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, Mexico, Japan, countries in Europe. And guess what? Newjeans is trending for Korea. Logic is out the door with yall.

@tfwhatsdatgirl

2 ай бұрын

they had one of the most successful debuts in kpop. why wouldn't these brand deals want to work with them? be fr

@Kitty_missss

2 ай бұрын

​@@tfwhatsdatgirlgurl be fr 🤦 three months after debut, stop trying defend the fact that hype and ador pulled the strings for and are still doing it not just for newjeans but their other group

@DUNGSTA

2 ай бұрын

Well duh...

@Kitty_missss

2 ай бұрын

​@@someotheraliasgurl they weren't influential when debut they were just trending concept , three months after debut and getting a global brand ambassadorship . Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to defend hybe payola for their groups especially newjeans . Those girls are too young to be wearing clothes made for grown ups 🤦

5th and 4th gen kpop: 1.) Looks 2.)Luxury brands 3.)vocals I remember Xiumin getting hate when he said the music, vocals and authenticity should come first. Lol ladies and gents this is what kpop is now😂😂😂😂

@catherineabena5720

2 ай бұрын

ooo can i hear why you say vocals? imo i think dance is prioritised now

@oguri863

2 ай бұрын

​@@catherineabena5720 i still feel like vocal is the most important theyre singer they should know how to sing. Plus we aren't listening to their footsteps in Spotify or smth

@jksjksjksjks

2 ай бұрын

thats just hybe lol almost all their groups and soloists get negative backlash after encores cause no one can sing in that company except pledis groups like seventeen and fromis9- hybe doesnt give a f about singers they manipulate a lot during the recording thats why almost all their voices in songs sound the same the typical hybe voice effect.. their encores show the raw sound its horrible like le sserafim today with their easy encore literally 4 out of 5 couldnt sing-

@EduruChan

2 ай бұрын

@@Angelica06-gi1cy promoted by BTS and HYBE....(G)I-DLE is the only organic real self made group amongst the top 4th gen girl groups....FACT only

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

I'm so tired of this narrative. Hybe proves all the resources for their labels to traine their artists.

Those idols are not singers, they are models. For some reason before we hear their voice, they are already freaking luxury brand ambassadors. This makes it easy to scrap idols after any minor “scandals” and it makes it dangerous to literally be human. They scrapped Seunghan after only a few months for nothing, Garam….

@ridddlesizzle

2 ай бұрын

the fact that garam was actually one of the most talented lsf members and she was the best vocalist along with chaewon and yunjin it’s just heartbreaking!

@orion5445

2 ай бұрын

Ah don't bring her up please. I'm still pissed off how they hoed her.

@TheRyno525

2 ай бұрын

Who creates and big deals minor "scandals"? Fans. Who pressures company's and cries about everything an Idol does, say's, or act's? Fans. dangerous litteral human fans lmao

@kevinabstract5508

2 ай бұрын

​@@ridddlesizzle😂😂😂

@ReapingWillow

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheRyno525 Who debutes minor idols and then does everything perfectly the wrong way in order to fan the flames of a controversy surrounding said minor, a minor who was STILL IN school and therfore aby bullying issues would have been right there at the forfro t.if her life had they existed, meaning rhat either the company should have expected a controversy and been ready or simply known that there was nothing to draw and quarter a child over to begin with and made that as evident as possible from the very first accusation. Because obviously she had an incident in her VERY recent past that they 100% knew about and debuted her for one of two reasons.... that issue was jot as it seemed and she was an innocent girl defending a friend. Therefore they would have been 100% prepared with everything they needed to defend her. As it was guaranteed, the discovery of her pas, via all the anti HYBE artists people and/or the likelihood of accusations if a jealous schoolmate who knew about her past inevitably hit. They knew that what she had, which was a common case of "not what it looks like" in her past would cause what it did, as they are not new to the industry. Therefore, they would have looked for such stuff in their potential idols and if they fins it decide accordingly. Are they worth it, if so, prepare to defend them. That's what they made it seem like they were doing. Defending her. But instead they quite literally acted as if they hadn't even thought abiut looking into the past of tjeir idols despite the way in which kpop is now, and so a result hasn't prepared for that possibly being brought front and center. They acted out the ENTIRE "legal battle" over a large period of time, silenced her and anyone else involved on her behalf and allowed the entire opportunity industry to be fed lies from the other side as devolve into a moshpit of screaming animals who were feeding of each others wildly escalating anger. All of which having gone from "normal and still completely unacceptable treatment of another human being that far outweighs ANYTHING that person has been accused of and quite literally make all of them 100 times the monster that they have ever been painted as being" in response... to a level of inhuman treatment, of a child nonetheless, that is without a doubt deserving of criminal charges itself. Worse part of which was that the level of which was so unbelievably devastating and scarring when it's set upon such a fragile young girl... I couldn't even imagine how anyone involved in the disgusting display that was that case, could EVER Justify their actions therein. Nevermind continue to believe she needed to be punished for ANYTHING after what they did to her, even when there was still NOTHING solid evidence wise, and of course NO verdict. All in a case whos accusations, still, under no circumstances, would have ever even come CLOSE to warrenting what she was put through in just the journey to get there. All of that was being done to HER, whilst HYBE so clearly KNEW from the get go that she had done nothing wrong and therefore should have immediately been able to it shut down. Yet they WITHHELD proof, they REFUSED to release proof, that the little girl they had debuted, that they wre responsible for, that they fed to the wolves, had simply been innocent all along and the school had blatantly declared as such back when the situation had occurred. So, please, tell me how this wasn't COMPLETELY the fault of HYPE and their DESIRE to have thus young girl go through what she did, all so that they could just kick her out in the end, make the public say "YOU DID THE RIGHT THING! YAY! WE LOVE THE GROUP AGAIN!" made for themselves ENDLESS amounts of noise and promotion for the group, and then just toss the little girl away without EVER having cleared her name because... well, that would of courses make THEM look like what they are.

I don't think it's only HYBE I feel like a lot of music companies pull strings behind closed doors to promote their artists

@soragirl9

2 ай бұрын

I agree... This channel loves to take jabs at HYBE every time they can...

@BruhImAGirl

2 ай бұрын

tbh HYBE is the honest one. So honest about being a rotten corporation, the other 3 are the same but they don’t show it. HYBE only makes it visibly obvious they are pulling strings

@soragirl9

2 ай бұрын

yeah, don't @ me please, we clearly don't see eye to eye on this subject 😂 go speak with someone else

@BruhImAGirl

2 ай бұрын

@@soragirl9 sorry lmao I didnt mean to @ u, I'll remove it 🙊

@rihannasfinallyback9967

2 ай бұрын

Any company with millions of dollars definitely has the power to get their idols to the top in unfair ways. I mean back then companies would buy idols that were starting to get to the top so they wouldn’t have competition for their future artists. And now Hybe is pulling lots of strings for their artists. Hybe is open about the way they get their idols to the top, other companies are just good at hiding their strategies. It honestly saddens me seeing what Hybe has become, bts built hybe, bts worked so hard to get to the top and bighit decided to use their money to make a corporation that no longer wants idols to work hard to get to the top, now hybe idols are getting lots of privileges. Bighit bit the hand that fed them and I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m the future, Hybe becomes the most hated company

What was the purpose of this video? 😭😭😭 What big company anywhere is NOT gonna use its privileged to promote an artist

@sisamkhanal3136

Ай бұрын

For real ...just because it's somehow related to BTS its s big big ISSUE

@mcndreamer4155

Ай бұрын

thats what im wondering like they spend money to train them so like ...?

@thankyoudivine

Ай бұрын

Fr she said a whole lot of nothing 😂

@crunchnmunchsweettreats

Ай бұрын

Nah like deadass, this normal, they tryna promote they grouos

@KhaoRose

Ай бұрын

people are angry an agency doesn't want their investment to flop be so fr

Im NOW hearing about Illit and these girsl have gone to PARIS FASHION WEEK?! Wow...this is why me and my sister have literally been binging early 3rd and 2nd gen cause this is ridiculous lol.

@crystalsmith9038

2 ай бұрын

When I saw the video of them at Paris fashion week, I was asking who is this? Obviously they’re extremely gorgeous so I thought they were models, but everybody was screaming so loudly.

@jaixie

2 ай бұрын

Nobody actually tought they were newjeans. Illit had a whole survival show to form the group and have had 2 predebut variety shows, thats how they have fans already.

@jaixie

2 ай бұрын

@@karandn12344 i don't think you know what gaslighting is lol i've only seen people say they thought it was newjeans when they were hating on illit. They look nothing alike anyway and people were screaming illits names, not newjeans names at the event.

@jaixie

2 ай бұрын

Whether they deserved to be at paris fashion week or not is one thing and you can argue about that if you want, but it annoys me when people act like illit just popped up out of nowhere. If you didn't know they had a survival show and predebut content that's fine but don't act like it's weird that they have fans already without informing yourself

@crystalsmith9038

2 ай бұрын

@@karandn12344 same I thought it was new jeans bc of how many members there were and they were so gorgeous

every company in BIG 3 had their own privilege. (cmiiw) i remember how people immediately recognized Twice, Red Valvet and Blackpink before they debuted because their company and selection program was in gen 3, which left girl groups from small companies like GFriend, Mamamoo, Dreamcatcher and others starting from 0 by relying on their luck, and hardwork.

@127bubbles

2 ай бұрын

now compare their talents to 4th gen ggs 😂

@unojd2936

2 ай бұрын

​@@127bubbles Only Mamamoo and Dreamcatcher are worth something in terms of talent. What's your intention?

@pitumido892

2 ай бұрын

Twice weren’t recognised immediately bro !!! They’re weren’t so popular only after cheer up it did happen but for bp and rv they were at the leading kpop companies that time (snsd, exo , Big Bang 2ne1 etc)and got immediate succes!!! And jyp was almost falling off from the big 3

@Elyse-vp4rk

2 ай бұрын

@@pitumido892 but they all worked hard yk its really all about luck, in case some people haven’t noticed talent is not exactly noticed.

@Thelma-gv5eo

Ай бұрын

​@@pitumido892Us Once will never forget how they use to promote themselves in the street they are true Queens 👸 🙌 ❤️

i know that hybe is ''promoting" them but a predebut group???? It's not even about music in kpop at the moment, it's all about who can reach the higher level on the fashion industry

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

This has nothing to do with hybe. Illit was personally invited by acne fashion brand. Why do you care it not like it's Gucci or Prada.

@x.i_a

2 ай бұрын

​@@nicoleloss7987and how is u totally unknown yet suddenly invited by a luxury brand to attend a private fashion show that requires the attendees to have an invitation to go enter ??? imagine not knowing that its indeed the doings of hybe and their connections

@x.i_a

2 ай бұрын

@@nicoleloss7987 ah and also since u dont know much about luxury brands ; Acne Studio is on the exact same level price wise and notoriety wise as prada and gucci ; its crazily expensive and some items actually cost more than a gucci one

@Athena_208

2 ай бұрын

@@x.i_aexactly!! You’re absolutely right.

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Illit come from a survival show on jtch

I think being a kpop idol isnt easy, its 97% luck/money/connections 3% hard work/talent/perseverence etc EDIT: Lol guys take it in the wrong way please! I never said hard work dosent play a role. A lot of trainees don't debut, is it because they're not talented or don't put hard work? N the money thing was mentioned by someone else in the comment so I just added it :) this is my opinion so if you don't like it, please ignore it

@Haajjeerr

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely agree

@temperatureoflove8504

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree

@louispratsis6231

2 ай бұрын

change luck to money and i'm with you

@user-xf2vf9wn5j

2 ай бұрын

I'm increasingly reading that a big chunk of the 97% could actually be related to connections and wealth. Maybe not so much the big agencies, but for those beneath them, family links and financial support is important.

@Th3Visitor

2 ай бұрын

Exactly yes famous groups can be talented but that doesn't mean that luck didn't play a factor alot of talented groups aren't famous

i still find it ridiculous that how HYBE LITERALLY SCRAPPED TRAINEE A.

@KatieCooper258

2 ай бұрын

Now I heard rumors JJ is now a trainee under sm which breaks my heart but I don't blame him. If this was his answer to debut, then he found it. But I also wish him the best of luck on his career path. 🫶

@karlaruiz8685

2 ай бұрын

We don’t care

@amorelockster1023

2 ай бұрын

Why?

@michelleacot9249

2 ай бұрын

I followed trainee A content before, from what I remembered from their few last videos from when they went to America to train (they were scolded for losing focus about why they were there (w/c is to train) + the last evaluation performance, the staffs' concern are their teamwork. + leo's decision to leave the group. Maybe that's why they were scrapped. I was so excited for them to debut back then :(

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Correct they were not ready to debut. Leo is now a soloist under 131 entertainment Yorch is in a boy group called pow under grid entertainment Jihoon is in tws.

I'm personally getting confuse about people, when idols aren't being exposed or supported enough by labels they hate it but when idols are being exposed or supported by their labels, they hate it make up your mind. Don't get mad at me it's just an observation.

@sisamkhanal3136

Ай бұрын

True

@sm1417

Ай бұрын

The problem is hyb Stan’s used to cry for privilege of the big 3 but then hyb starts doing it you all call it promotion 😂

@sanjaykumartripathi7200

Ай бұрын

At least give them vocal training they're not models. Most of the time all of them can't sing live. I'm talking about lesserafim and new jeans. If we needed models then they can teach them modeling.no prob. Getting brand deals isn't a promotion. Brands pay them money to promote their brands

@aaaa-zu6im

Ай бұрын

​@@sanjaykumartripathi7200New jeans can sing live tho.They literally performed at lollapalooza.Even iu was impressed by one of the girls and released a collab with her🤷‍♀️

@aaaa-zu6im

Ай бұрын

​@@sm1417and the "privilege" they used to "cry about" is getting some respect in reality shows,being able to perform in award shows,getting a green room in award shows,not getting dragged for the simplest reasons like having school uniforms in concept photos,not getting dragged to court bcuz of random plagiarism accusations big 3 stans pulled out of their ass and etc etc😨

If we are being honest, kpop is loosing its uniqueness, we now have idols singing amapiano, going to fashion shows, being influencers, doing everything else but kpop, I remember when I first discovered ‘gee’ I never even knew what kpop was, but i happened to see the music video, I had no clue who they were or what they were singing but I was intrigued, it was very different from what I was used to , I didn’t even know where to watch more since it was downloaded and shared through Bluetooth but now they are just a bunch of wannabe American artists.

@blueraine21

2 ай бұрын

you are just getting old.. this is 4th gen era now not 2nd/3rd gen fossils.. adapt or get out.

@hannahedwards4125

2 ай бұрын

​@@blueraine21No, they're right, kpop now is boring af only a handful of 4th gen idols have an impact, and 5th gen are americanized af and won't get so far. 2nd, 3rd, and some of 4th gen groups are the last impactful in kpop it's a fact

@EduruChan

2 ай бұрын

@@hannahedwards4125 Only (G)I-DLE is the real Kpop left...they are the only organic real self made group amongst the top 4th gen girl groups....FACT only

@hannahedwards4125

2 ай бұрын

@@EduruChan the handful of 4th gen groups I was talking about are (gidle, Skz, and Atz) they made their group into what it is now. Most of the others are talentless or being helped heavily by their company's connections💕

@mont-hplay9

2 ай бұрын

And don’t forget that the new fans of K-pop are soooooo freaking toxic K-pop was way better when it wasn’t that popular like in 2 and 3 generations and all fans didn’t used to fight and talk shit about the K-pop group that they don’t like

Hybe disbanded gfriend literally no reason Edit: anyone that said hybe has no decision over source, gfriend was the lowest charting group under hybe, i will hold a grudge against all of you

@arinnn2052

2 ай бұрын

it's still hard for me to accept that... i miss them

@6idle4ever49

2 ай бұрын

yet ppl still worshipping that devil ass multimillion $ company like what makes its toxicity differs w another multimillion $ company

@user-oy5lz7ur7z

2 ай бұрын

Wasn't it source music decision i m confused did hybe push the disbandment

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Hybe doesn't have any authority to disband groups. Gfriend contract was with source music. Gfriend contract was 6 years. They chose not to renew. Plus gfriend owns their rights to their name. They can come back anytime they want.

@xuoqq7930

2 ай бұрын

nah they did for a reason. i loved gfriend but i love Vivez. i think gfriend would’ve been like twice and everyone would be like “tHeYre pUtTinG oUt tRasH muSic, tHe CoMpNy DonT cARE AbOut TheM”

ok but my question is why do yall all of a sudden care about privileged idols now? privileged idols has been a thing since the beginning of kpop, especially if they debuted from sm, jyp, or yg and yet ive never seen all these think-pieces about “privilege” until hybe came into the mix. ever since hybe has been climbing the ranks it’s like everybody scrambling to find something new to complain about and it’s honestly getting annoying. yall are just making yourselves look more and more like bitter hypocrites.

@MadeWithCaree

2 ай бұрын

They are mad because hybe groups are getting more sucessful than their faves

@KatieCooper258

2 ай бұрын

They're just jealous cuz Hybe's groups are getting more attention than from the other companies groups.

@AARTIKUMARI-ee2vm

Ай бұрын

Frr

@juliaxiao5320

Ай бұрын

i just hate how hybe is the extreme of corporate ness and making groups like trends instead of trendsetters, its not goodin the long run and i dont even feel sorry for the idols with this company because they give such conventional and replaceable aura.

@not_in_the_mood

Ай бұрын

@@juliaxiao5320 i’m not really getting how any of that is relevant to what i said and i’m now sure what point you’re getting at either. because hybe is in fact a corporation so it makes sense for them to act all “corporate ness”, plus trends have been a thing wayyy before kpop even existed. there have always been people who set/popularize them and then others who follow that certain trend because that’s what’s in at the moment. so pls elaborate on what you mean.

It's obvious hybe's new groups got most of the success due their companys connection

@ClrrcIr

2 ай бұрын

What measure of success are you talking about here?

@cherryheartcabezas6293

2 ай бұрын

fr

@Julie-de8df

Ай бұрын

I think it’s because they are more popular right now not because they are privileged 😂

@remurrr

Ай бұрын

​@@Julie-de8dfeven If it's true that there is privilege, there's nothing wrong with that. Even if ILLIT gets the same thing, I don't think there's anything wrong, this is just part of their strategy in promoting is better than big 3

@Julie-de8df

Ай бұрын

@@remurrr yeah

Sad to see that &Team only got shown with a picture under "not so successful". I love &Team, their music, their choreos and their members. They are such a talented group, and they are gaining a lot of attention!

@user-lr2hh3bv1n

2 ай бұрын

I think it's because their songs are in Japanese language and kpop fan love kpop

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

They are successful. All of their albums charted and are certified in Japan. The even made it on to billboard top 100 Japan. They have charted on all Japanese charts.

@KatieCooper258

2 ай бұрын

As a lunè like you, this hurt the way the creator said about "some groups under hybe not being successful". We both know &TEAM is slowly getting popular each passing day. If we stay true to them, no one else will understand.

@iluvhaerin.

2 ай бұрын

frrrrrr they need more attention !!!!!

@Nicole-ee8zn

2 ай бұрын

I was watching "WAR CRY" yesterday, and they have very good vocals, visuals and their dance style is fluid too. Actually, they remind me of EXO:D

No one but TXT is BTS sibling group. People once again forget that HYBE has multiple labels under it. Until a girl group debuts under Bighit, NO ONE is BTS' sister group

@SPla488

13 күн бұрын

correct. why other people forget that bighit is private one? and they clearly said NO FEMALE TRAINEE

Some added info. ILLIT is owned by a private company called BE:LIFT Lab, whose major stakeholders were CJ ENM and HYBE as a joint venture. HYBE later acquired all of the equity that CJ ENM owned and now has the controlling stake in BE:LIFT Lab. As the parent company they can make any decision they like and the subsidiary has to follow. Most subsidiaries have autonomy unless the parent company steps in, but ultimately they have to follow the plans set forth by the parent company in the quarterly board meetings. HYBE can tell BE:LIFT and ADOR to do whatever and they have to follow. This is just how corporations work.

K-pop fans are the most clueless people in the world. If you're shocked by this then it means you were born yesterday and u have no idea how the entertainment business works. Like this is literally what Western labels like Universal Music have been doing for years- getting their new artist in front of talk shows and magazine covers even before they debut. It's how they generate interest for their artist. Of course, Hybe knew sending this group to a fashion show was going to make K-pop fans lose their minds and cause so much noise which is exactly what they wanted. This news has brought so much attention to this group which is exactly the point of it. The post on the K-pop chart alone has 6 million engements. That was honestly smart move.

@user-xf2vf9wn5j

2 ай бұрын

It's not even a entertainment industry thing. Whether you are Nike or run a lemonade stand at a market, you need to do everything you can to get your message out there and make sure what you're selling is a success. The issue here seems to be that some unwritten K-pop timeline rules are not being followed. But the company has employees who need to put food on the table and pay their bills. Why should it not take advantage of opportunities that come up.

@orion5445

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-xf2vf9wn5jI think the issue is that they're more focused on marketing groups than making good music or improving their artist's talents. From a business perspective it makes sense but if you're someone who prefers music over brand this will be a disappointment.

@Athena_208

2 ай бұрын

@@orion5445yes exactly. That is the major difference.

@celine9richardson

2 ай бұрын

@@orion5445then listen to a different company simple as 😂😂😂

@NINA_6

Ай бұрын

THIS NEED TO BE PINNED bcs yeah they want attention kpop fans so they debute also get a lot of attention THATS THE POINT.

"a team of kpop fans who love to talk SH*T about kpop" should be the tagline of this channel.

Any group debuting from the BIG 4 are ALL privileged. Not just HYBE

@spikey310

2 ай бұрын

Not really, look at yg and jyp, most of their idols have mediocre popularity, only a few like blackpink, twice, straykids and itzy are insanely popular in the current era of kpop.

@yourname4531

2 ай бұрын

Say it louder

@jayminnie9256

2 ай бұрын

@@spikey310 I mean that the privilege is already given, being under those huge companies. Now it all boils down to how effective or ineffective their management strategies are, a dedicated fandom and lots of luck.

@yourname4531

2 ай бұрын

@Ceruleanblueci-8r At least they had some management and budget. You forget that unpopular companies can’t even feed their idols and employees. I’d rather be in nugu group from the big three than just nugu from an unknown company.

@m1r__

2 ай бұрын

@@spikey310 i mean babymonster already has a 100m+ view MV debut. they're definitely privileged.

Y'all need to understand that Bts worked so hard and built hybe so they can provide a safe space for their juniors and so that their juniors can have the luxury they couldn't so hating on illit for going fashion week is immature..

@BS_WORLD7

2 ай бұрын

Quite surprising that they are already attending events without even debuting, but hating them just shows the jealousy and ain’t the right thing to do

@NINA_6

Ай бұрын

So true

@aysnass

Ай бұрын

​@@BS_WORLD7 i think they were supposed to debut before paris fw but there were some bumps in the road and they had to postpone

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

Fr, they’re just discrediting everyone involved in Hybe’s rise at this point, just because Hybe artists are doing better than their faves

HYBE were honestly really smart making Illit going to that fashion event/show. Without it I wouldn't even know that they are going to debut in a few days. It's a good marketing strategy??

@jnfr47

Ай бұрын

yeah

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

It is, people are mad that a company is actually promoting its group properly lol

@UkiLu

Ай бұрын

Naa, it just goes to show that they can't achieve much from their talents without the company allegedly 'paying' their way to fame in the industry

@theread3480

12 күн бұрын

@@UkiLuimagine getting mad that a company is doing what it’s actually supposed to do

@UkiLu

12 күн бұрын

@@theread3480 ain't nobody mad lol just say it as it is, criticism is not hate luv

Black Label gg is coming 😅 if its true that a chaebol's granddaughter is going to debut it will shake the industry and will definitely take privileges to a higher level.

@addractivesullhoon

Ай бұрын

Agreeing

@runnnnnnnntoJesus

Ай бұрын

i'm late, but considering south korea's addiction to anything luxury, and debuting a group who are literally chaebols. you know south korea will be head over heels + Teddy's music

@remurrr

Ай бұрын

her name?

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

@@remurrrI think it’s Annie

@Acj41

29 күн бұрын

Is she a singer? Or just hype

the only problem about HBYE is that, they are group of companies and fans were divided because the fans want they're fave group to be the top notch. Hybe fans were fighting for their groups, while groups have a good relationship the fans and companies did not (i guees) because the companies itself keep in debuting group left and right and fans were'nt happy (i'm one of them). While JYP groups were divided into Division system, fans are loving them seeing together because fow what i have observe, fans from different groups supporting other group from the same company.

It’s on the individual if they want to listen to more groups or not at the end of the day NORMAL fans don’t care what subcompany or whatever another group is under , I started with new jeans and now listen to many groups

Yall love coming at HYBE alot and its freaking stupid If they promote them "its priviledge" If they dont "Its mistreatment" If their albums sell too well "its payola" (you dont even know what dat means) If their albums dont sell "they're flops" And yet HYBE still gives their groups at least 2 comebacks every year with singles, solo works and more I don't care if they model for 373737373 Just listen to the music and move on already

@Miist3rDuce1

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@btsmochimi7924

Ай бұрын

Yup privilege is good! Its unfair to others but so what? The world is unfair to begin with. This is a pill that is hard to swallow for some kpop stans out there.

@Purple_Poppy

Ай бұрын

@@btsmochimi7924 Exactly!!! Fun fact is they don't care unless its HYBE there was absolutely no one talking about Riize when Sth similar happened with them

@exogen9428

Ай бұрын

​@@Purple_PoppyStop it, riize are literally getting hate from everywhere and for the smallest bs, they can't even be mentioned when it comes to privileges cause sm is literally doing nothing for them

@Purple_Poppy

Ай бұрын

@@exogen9428 *Doing nothing for them* only in sense of protection which is normal with SM atp but you cannot say SM did not promote them bro they literally got a deal even before their debut and besides that is the kind of privilege we are talking about in this context

I am guessing this is hybe hating channel 😂😂😂

But tbh you can’t blame hybe for its popularity now, I praise bighit / hybe for getting such a talented n energetic artists , esp BTS which made hybe so popular. Tbh I didn’t know hybe through BTS but from Enhypen, it’s not a privilege. People automatically nowadays already believe that hybe is so good that any artist they debut are prob gonna be good, like I’m not lying their songs and concept is so unique and different from other companies plus their lore>>>>

@Laibahsiddiqui

2 ай бұрын

Ikr 😭🤌🏻 they all are so good 😌

More than half of the subscribers of hybe are armies ...

Kinda off topic but yk, armies don’t really stan other k-pop groups because the whole thing of k-pop is the music video and the looks not really the songs. Armies aren’t k-pop fans they’re just music fans. As an army I am still a kpop Stan but I don’t Stan many groups.

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

True true

All this because illit got invited to paris fashion Week. The marketing strategy has changed for big girlgroups after BP debuted, be it Aespa, Ive, newjeans. Its for status in the industry. "Like the brand we are also premium " Kind of image.

I mean I would hope the idols that are in the most profitable companies in kpop are enjoying some sort of privilege. This is why they roll the dice to debut in hype

Hybe is just like SM and YG in early 2010's

@JoyRoy-pd5tz

2 ай бұрын

This time big hit now privilege hybe talentless vocal and show off 😒 under many subsidiary companies

@EduruChan

2 ай бұрын

@@JoyRoy-pd5tz True...(G)I-DLE is the only organic real self made group amongst the top 4th gen girl groups....FACT only

@127bubbles

2 ай бұрын

at least yg and sm had some of the most talented kpop idols back then😂

@JoyRoy-pd5tz

2 ай бұрын

@@127bubbles example yg g dragon,top,desuang,teayoung,cl,minzy,psy,Lee hi, and now many more Bobby,b.I,Mino,yoon ,yedam,whole akmu, sechskies, and sm Kai,teayone, Wendy ,seulgi ,hoyeon,temin ,shinee and super junior vocal many more times talented than hybe

@dilpreetkaur557

2 ай бұрын

YG have a beef with almost all Korean awards shows. hype and sm are shady af

This is dumb. Are we surprised that a company uses their resources to try to make their products successful? Are we supposed to be surprised that bigger companies have more resources to make their products successful? It's like being surprised that Apple uses their resources to make products that garner interest before they're released. Additionally, if Hybe artists have a greater chance at success at debut, then debuting at Hybe becomes more attractive to trainees. If more trainees want to debut with Hybe, then it becomes more competitive to become a Hybe trainee and debut. Which means those that debut with Hybe likely had to outperform their peers in a very competitive environment. Is that privilege or merit?

BTS used to be a victim of the privilege that the big 3 had but now bts is making their own privilege through hybe 👏👏

Came here after listening to Leserrafim s live encore and i must say hybe should debut some talented singers.

@demonslayer4951

2 ай бұрын

Yunjin & Chaewon> other group😂😂👏👏

@blueraine21

2 ай бұрын

talented singers wont make them money

@Lolo77573

2 ай бұрын

@@blueraine21 what’s the point to Stan a singer who can’t even sing 🫢

@Lolo77573

2 ай бұрын

@@demonslayer4951 hahahaha 🤡

@amnasalman3960

2 ай бұрын

​@@demonslayer4951fun fact: yunjin was trained under SM and chaewon was trained under woolim entertainment

Why are "Big Company's" big and why do they remain big? and why do group's under big label's usually succeed? People can call it privileged if they'd like, But maybe Big company's are big because they have the best talent scouts, the best producer's, song writers, video directors, ect. The Idols are picked by the agencies, and the agencies have to pay for the talent that they have working for them so where is the privilege? The best agencies want the most talented, so they pay to find, train, and release what people like. Period

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

@bellearena000Right so let’s just casually ignore the existence of BTS, TXT, Enhypen, fromis_9, Seventeen and GFRIEND… “Hybe artists aren’t talented” be so for real lmao, you’re just mad.

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

@bellearena000 Yalls hate against Hybe is so forced it’s genuinely funny

you dont see these types of conversations until hybe idols did it lol. Fans get mad when their idols dont get promoted and they get angry when they promote them. Kpop fans are insane breed.

I don't know what you mean with "their music is so good they would be popular in any other company"- no they wouldn't, they wouldn't have the same writers they have now, they don't write or compose their music. These girls are just performers just like every other group under Hype ( excl. BTS). Which is completely fine, but we all should stop compare Performers with Artists and separate these two.

@joansapy6648

2 ай бұрын

Seventeen as well since they also produce their music

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Fromis9 lesserafim newjeans txt and boynextdoor all write composer and producer . Boynextdoor was trained under koz entertainment

@paularsg_

2 ай бұрын

most hybe groups have members that participate in songwriting

@Zero0Zero0000

Ай бұрын

So actors are not artists because they just say the words that were written to them? Is that kpoppies logic?

@cherinlady

Ай бұрын

@@bellearena000me when im in denial

ILLIT: How to be New Jeans but failed version. Belief used all Enhypen money to fly them to Paris Fashion Week when most of them underage and people drinking wine there

@karlaruiz8685

2 ай бұрын

Enhypen money 😂 please

@amorelockster1023

2 ай бұрын

Lmao

@Chachixo

2 ай бұрын

what does adults drinking wine have to do with anything?

@Kiraaa-vp5re

2 ай бұрын

Like the way enhypen used bts money😂??

@user-rr5ik8dn5j

2 ай бұрын

The group hasn't debuted stfu

HYBE forgot to add the privilege to have a proper vocal coach to their artists. Dancing and visuals is the only qualification they need and just slap 100x layers of heavy autotune and VIOLA! Debut time. 😂

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Hybe artist can sing. You really need to stop that nonsense narrative. Jyp and sm entertainment ex vocals coaches have been working at hybe since it was form .

@Idkk-lz9bx

2 ай бұрын

Visual is more important to K-pop fans. The most popular idols are most of the time visuals not vocalists

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

You do realize that half of hybe artist were trained under the big3 before they came to hybe. Please. Also most of hybe staff is ex jyp and sm entertainment staff . Including vocals coaches.

@Cartesianess

2 ай бұрын

@@nicoleloss7987 Yeah they can sing. Not just good singers though. Jungkook is the only decent vocalist in HYBE before Pledis entered the scene.

@userj793

2 ай бұрын

Right now i saw in twitter one of hybe group recent music show encore omg😂😂 After seeing your comment it reminding me that.

I believe that Hybe is actually following more of the structure of American major labels which is what I feel is attracting alot of the international fandoms because of how they're marketing and managing their groups.

NGL the pre debut group attending the fashion show is cringe asf. They look so uncomfortable as well

@STAYing_for_kids

2 ай бұрын

Ikr 😭✋🏻 and people are defending them by saying that they worked hard for it??? I mean there are much more popular survival shows and they didn't get the chance to attend but this group did and it's really cringe that a group which hasn't even debuted yet is attending such a event 💀

@leavemealone743

2 ай бұрын

@@STAYing_for_kidsand its not the predebut group’s fault, blame the company

@Melia_67

2 ай бұрын

They served visuals and received the most cheers out of everyone. Keep crying tho!😂

@Melia_67

2 ай бұрын

@@leavemealone743There is nothing wrong with anything. They were invited by Acne Studios. Do you want them to decline the invite because jealous K-pop fans?😅

@leavemealone743

2 ай бұрын

@@Melia_67 i never said they should decline, people should stop blaming

Literal children in this comment section thinking LVMH, a giant company led by the RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLRD, would accept money from company like HYBE to have their artists be ambassadors for their brands (yes BRANDS) globally or otherwise. HYBE is big but not that big compared to LVMH. Also, why some of you think these fashion shows are that prestigious? These are shows for boutiques and stores to order their purchases. Any big spenders can come. Yes it is open to the public and EVEN fashion students.

kpop is a business, so it is only reasonable that big companies which have more resources and connections are going to use those resources and connections. it is a privilege, and?

@ellapatella2574

Ай бұрын

right? seems like fans jus want every group to suffer in order to succeed ,, idk

I don’t understand the problem with a company using privilege/money to promote idols. I mean isn’t that the whole point? To popularize your company, Idols, groups, etc. While it may not seem fair because there are other groups that weren’t properly promoted or aren’t as popular as they should be, why hate on a group/company that is able to???

Double standards is crazy tho, literally SM had Riize and Aespa being brand ambassadors even before debut and no one said a thing but when it’s hybe y’all are yapping everywhere

@BELIEVER78989

2 ай бұрын

Its jealousy atp😂😂

ILL'IT is a new gg under belift lab and juniors of ENHYPEN. They were formed through the survival show RUNext which was a collaboration between belift lab and JTBC. their group name symbolises I WILL DO IT or somthing around the lines that means we can do anything. The group consists of 2 members with heavenly vocals (PARK MINJU- 19 and LEE WONHEE- 16), 2 members with breathtaking and different dance styles (HOKAZONO IROHA- 16, SAKAI MOKA- 19) and an all rounder (NOH YUNAH- 20). At first this was a six member group with LEE YOUNGSEO a part of it but later she terminated her contract with belift due to unknown reasons. Their group's concept is very unique and their debut is announced to be on 25th march, 2024 with the first album SUPER REAL ME which features members in alternate realities with a SUPER ME version of themselves and a REAL ME version. I hope you support these girls since they've worked very hard this past year with a lot of uncertainity and hardship in the survival show RUNext. Plz show them some love!!!

When it comes to new jeans success why eveybody says its cz of hybe ???? Like look at baby monster... they were even more famous than nj blackpink yg both promoted them ...but their songs couldn't match the expectations. .. look at nmixx they r also from big3 .. jyp himself promoted them .. but though they are very talented still not successful as nj . Its not about hybe or big 3. If you are talented mainly if people like your songs obviously u will be successful... look at their songs hype boy attention super shy etc etc .. they are all hits ... obviously hybe helps them like other companies but mainly its their songs ...

@sarangheo3294

2 ай бұрын

@@ridddlesizzle 1st of all I have already mentioned that nmixx is really talented probably more than nj but many people hated their debut...till now many people don't like their music style ... that doesn't mean jyp didn't promoted them . Look at yg .. they promoted babymonster more than a year .. BP promoted them but their debut could not perform well. Gfriend also from hybe .. but they are not as successful as nj . People love nj 's music their style ... their songs go viral specially in Korea... big 3 also promote their groups very well . A group's success mostly depends on their music not on promotions.

@blueraine21

2 ай бұрын

Its not "everybody", its only YG/ SM stans who are being toxic.. IDK why they feel so threatened by HYBE artists that they have to waste their time bringing down other idols.. They like to pretend their groups didnt also get the same privilege treatment like Babymonster being so overhyped before they even debut and Aespa being all over the news cos SM debuting another GG back in 2020.. But when it comes to HYBE, they keep saying nonsense like its all privilege, payola or disgusting.. They cant accept that its HYBE era now.

@potathottwit7604

2 ай бұрын

An nj stan. You have short attention span & like mid people at best😂 nj release music for people like you who only cares about popularity. They make music for the sake of virality & their writing skills is nowhere near a beginner

@ridddlesizzle

2 ай бұрын

@@sarangheo3294 DISBANDING GFRIEND AFTER MAGO’s success proved how much of a favorite they were to hybe😭 also idk but you all keep forgetting that baemon hasn’t made an ot7 comeback yet!

@sarangheo3294

2 ай бұрын

@@blueraine21 exactly ..they always pretend like hybe groups are successful for hybe's promotions .... when yg sm literally promote their groups more than hybe . Hybe didn't even promote new Jeans like nmixx and baby monster. Koreans love nj music.. also kpop fans . They just don't wanna admit .

Trust me all hybe bbgs have a good amount of common fans not all but a pretty good percentage of them even if they super different they all give homely vibes in a similar way it’s so cute

@preciouslyunhinged

2 ай бұрын

I agree....I stan probably all boy groups at hybe...nah all groups😂...

@germanher7528

2 ай бұрын

yeah lower IQ fans are the majority of HYBE's fans @@preciouslyunhinged

@Laibahsiddiqui

2 ай бұрын

​@@preciouslyunhingedyeahh me too 😂

@cherinlady

Ай бұрын

hybe bbgs

Hybe is definitely the most privileged. They proved that by sending a group that hasn’t even debuted yet to Paris fashion week. We already knew Hybe has a lot of payola especially after seeing how much play listing Newjeans has received and Hybe made it obvious they were using all their connections on them. Ik kpop is more out their now because of BP and Bts but it’s still crazy that all rookie groups from Hybe are going to fashion shows and becoming ambassadors for huge brands and to top it off going to American music festivals. Hybe is ruining kpop

@dagmarbubolz7999

Ай бұрын

they go because they want them, and they want them because Hybe is the biggest now and that's good for their own businesses + Hybe has built the best connections to the US, and it's not priviledge, they worked hard on that and invested the most. Maybe if SM and YG wouldn't do so much shit, and not mismanaging making their best and famous artists flee, they might be at a better place.

These days K-Pop is now more about fashion influences, looks, money, popularity etc rather than music

the big 3 done it long time ago but no one fucking care and suddenly hybe become big and outshine the big 3 and yall suddenly bark out of nowhere...double standard smh

You know what if I was the chairman or ceo of a company I would do the same thing as hybe have done. End of the discussion.

@yourname4531

2 ай бұрын

Ikr All these people in the comment section may not even understand how to do business, especially in South Korea, especially in the music industry. However, this does not prevent them from analyzing/criticizing the work of experts.

@BruhImAGirl

2 ай бұрын

@@yourname4531 at this point business affects the artistic freedom of an idol and that's where the biggest problem is. When someone releases objectively bad music the backlash is a fraction of that when someone has body hair or a pimple. Music just feels forced.

@yourname4531

2 ай бұрын

@BruhImAGirl I would agree with you. Except that hybe labels support their artists when it comes to solo activities. BTS and Seventeen write many songs by themselves. Other artists also actively participate in the production and staging choreography. And that someone cares about pimples or body hair has nothing to do with music. This is a problem of society, not of artists and their music.

@dagmarbubolz7999

Ай бұрын

@@BruhImAGirl as if the Kpop world left their idols artistic freedom for the most part, are you for real?

Ofc hybe want money and they have the privilege to promote their artists

Well nowadays k-pop fans more care about brand deals of their favs than actual music. If the artist has big brand deals they think it's enough to prove their talent. Rather than music videos they want them to watch in fashion weeks. So companies doing everything to promote their artists through brands.

a company is supposed to promote their idols, hybe has the money for it and so they do PERIOD.💀

As a BTS fan, i only think of BTS and TXT to be a "family"cause both of these are under the same sub label Bighit. For groups like Enhypen, Newjeans, Lesserafim, SVT and others, i dont think them as a part of family since all they dont come under the same sun label as BTS and TXT but hey i still love svt ( my sec ultimate grp) , enhypen, nj, lesserafim, its just i cant seem to think of these ones as a family.

@Xstarzones2

Ай бұрын

But they all under Hybe tho still.

@Divsx4

Ай бұрын

​@@Xstarzones2no they joined after bighit turned to hybe the main company is bighit where bts and txt work under but yeah for me too bighit is emotion and its a family not hybe which only uses others for promotion purpose

First of all I'm here for TWS only because I really don't understand why tws is being dragged because pledis is working on TWS even before being acquired by hybe, they had 4 trainee from pledis only. They didn't climb up on chart just over night, plot twist literally started gaining attention after they started promoting in music shows and Koreans are literally listening to them, from kids to teenagers to adults. Even idols are talking about it. Pledis is promoting them really well in Korea and Japan that's why they are gaining attention. It's not like they have become overly successful just because of one song, general public is enjoying it because of relatable lyrics and cute vibes of song. Otherwise &team and bnd would have gotten the same privilege. TWS ain't special añd pledis or all companies have their own staff, they never did anything illegal for seventeen, only attention tws got was being brother group of seventeen, they are gaining attention for that not being under hybe that's for sure. Even seventeen members are not promoting tws like they did during dream academy where all members put stories for that show. All credit should be given to pledis for exceptional promotions. And please watch their latest soundwave fanmeet in mall. People of all ages were there and there were so many people.

@nicoleloss7987

2 ай бұрын

Correct. Tws is pledis entertainment groups. Trained and creatived by pledis entertainment. Not hybe.

@polar7335

2 ай бұрын

Well one of the members was for sure a HYBE trainee since he’s from big hit. Plus seventeen has given them a lot of attention on social media and even at their debut showcase. Pointing out their privilege doesn’t bring down their value.

@chitra17rawat

2 ай бұрын

@@polar7335 privilege and accusing pledis of chart manipulation is two different thing, that's why I said 4 members there are total of 6 members. Ofcourse seventeen members posted about them that's why I also wrote that the only privilege tws has is being seventeen's company juniors not basically being under hybe because of that would be the case bnd and andteam would have gotten the same amount of attention and also plot twist is genuinely good song and Korean gp is loving it not only public but most idols are doing challenges in fanmeets, or singing it during live. All GROUPs from big company gets limelight it's not a big deal. My main problem was when they said about chart manipulation that's it..

@polar7335

2 ай бұрын

@@chitra17rawat BND and &team have no one to hype them up since they are the only groups y see their respective labels. Hence how they are starting “lower down the totem pole” compared to TWS who have seventeen heavily promoting them ( plus carats are very much about the family agenda). Plot twist was a hit for elementary / high schoolers which was great, I don’t think pledis manipulated.

@chitra17rawat

2 ай бұрын

@@polar7335 yah that's why I said the only privilege they got is being seventeen's brother group. That's the fact it's not even something to argue about.

People actually thought the group in the fashion week was Newjeans which is simply EMBARRASSING

@fluffycoil

2 ай бұрын

That was edited by a jobless freak

@amaradey

2 ай бұрын

i mean, what did they expect? nobody knows that gg, they have nothing to their name as a kpop group and individual artists, and hybe sends them to pfw??? ofc no one gonna recognize or even care abt them there!

@user-rr5ik8dn5j

2 ай бұрын

Nobody thought that.... Everyone was screaming their name. You can literally hear fans calling out ILLIT members name in every video. Yall really have to resort to lying

@itgetsworse601

2 ай бұрын

@@user-rr5ik8dn5j girl- everyone put the caption Newjeans

@jiachiia4615

2 ай бұрын

no one thought…and i hope you know that thinking they look similar is racist!!!

hybe is definitely the best company right now, not even close, they are the best at everything, music, promotion, choreography, concepts, mvs, money. its to the point that, if i had a child that wanted to be an idol, i would only let them if it was with hybe

@ni-kingtaehyunjkyoongs2758

2 ай бұрын

The benefit of hybe is that they have a lot of debuts and move their trainee within their label so you get more chances to debut. Despite that although their artist are guaranteed sucess internationally they are not guaranteed prestige in korean. Nj might have been lucky but enhypen as much as I love them and rich yes they are so hybe debuts are guaranteed money and high earnings are not popular in korea. So if yor goal is money then yeah hybe is good but success and prestige in korea are not guaranteed. So knetizens and korean trainees that want fame in their home country don't favor hybe as much

@aerabyeol

Ай бұрын

nah they just have money

@btsmochimi7924

Ай бұрын

​@@aerabyeol and the money is properly allocated! Not like sm😂

@LilianeJaner

27 күн бұрын

YES! Like promotions are crazy ! If you debut under the right subsidiary, they WILL go all out !

@themita4

8 күн бұрын

​@@aerabyeol they have money to pay for the idols unlike other groups who were not being paid.

NewJeans is the biggest budget artist debut ever. Not only kpop. The amount of money invested in them is hideous.

@YuRi-py7nv

2 ай бұрын

Don't lie its hideous just look at all the debut from others like aespa launched with much larger scale than newjeans with their own universe line, babymonster their whole show plus blackpink promoting them, its not just newjeans also if you are launched from big company do yo expect their budget to be that of small companies? Newjeans are not the' biggest budget artist' shut your brain if u donot know whats right or wrong

@haerinisinlovewithhanni

2 ай бұрын

They had an app made for just njs

@vixxexo6855

2 ай бұрын

@@YuRi-py7nvYour grammar is so bad. Makes sense an illiterate stans illiterate group New Jeans.

@abshiro.143

2 ай бұрын

​@@haerinisinlovewithhanni phoning?

@haerinisinlovewithhanni

2 ай бұрын

@@abshiro.143 yes and if you're a member of phoning you get shit load of content

I don’t see any wrong in this. HYBE is a big company of course they’re gonna promote the heck out of their artists. If they could bring their artists to perform at Mars, they would. I would too if I were the CEO and wanna make money. Its business after all. They are where they are at right now is because of the success of BTS. BTS didn’t have that privilege back then, why should the rest under that label follow BTS’ path? That doesn’t make any sense. BTS made it easy for the juniors and i’m pretty sure the boys are proud of making that change. As long as HYBE makes good and quality music, theres nothing wrong with feeding their artists. Anyway, BTS PAVED THE WAY AND FREE PALESTINE! ✌🏼

Only Jyp is the big company where it is not guaranteed that every new group will be popular but with SM/YG and Hybe it's the case

rookie groups not from hybe have already got ambassadorship A WEEK AFTER debut so the previledge doesn't lie only in hybe lol. Also ppl accusing hybe for'payola' need to know that they were the only company that got 2 trillion won profit so clearly they're not the ones doing payola . also payola is related with radio so I don't get kpop stans at all. Also if I worked my a## to get in that company.. that company better promote me and give me all the previledge and not lock me in the basement lol

@taylorbase7177

2 ай бұрын

so are every other group I don’t know why you guys harp on hybe so much

@dagmarbubolz7999

Ай бұрын

@@thriciaalejandro2482 no she just proved that all companies promote, it's literally their business, and if other companies don't promote than it's not because the management goes "well lets just NOT do it", but because they lack in budget.

Hybe paid millions of dollars for their new groups. To promote them by making challenges with BTS , svt etc. and even buying awards. I think this is not right they don't even act like rookies and don't even struggle like other idols. They don't even respect other idols .

@simplygold-je2ey

2 ай бұрын

buy awards🤣🤣🤣 what awards did they buy?? You all be finding anything to try and drag Hybe down. Sorry for you, it's not going to happen

@badkarma5245

2 ай бұрын

Truth hurts i know ​@@simplygold-je2ey

@BangTanSonyeondan_baldhead_era

2 ай бұрын

Any proof that they are buying awards?. Lol YG is known for that. Using mediaplay to make bp seems bigger, they just caught lying about faking Blackpink world tour records. Buying awards for them, and let's not forget the streaming farms in Thailand, where Yg literally paid a people to stream their artist songs.

@guitarmyheartsbeat

2 ай бұрын

@@simplygold-je2ey Boy They won awards they don't even deserve. And not even big girl groups than them win before ever They won in that categories isn't it wierd. I agree they are talented but not enough to beat big girl groups like previous generations.Even they get surprise themselves.

@BELIEVER78989

2 ай бұрын

"Don't Respect other idols" are you high lmao, so you were ok with these things when Big 3 were doing the same back then but now when Hybe is dominating the industry suddenly y'all have problem with these things😂😂😂

Doesnt matter what you or I think Hybe will continue to be successful while we debate about it in the comment section. Like them or hate them Hybe groups are making money.

@Laibahsiddiqui

2 ай бұрын

Fr bro 😪

That's why I'm glad that Stray Kids debuted in a normal way and members became ambassadors of different brands only after a few years of being the idols. Also, they haven't become popular from the start, they slowly built up and became really famous only on a second-third year.

@hannahedwards4125

2 ай бұрын

Ikrr, even though they're from a big company, they've never relied on its connections and worked hard for themselves becoming one of the biggest groups in kpop and the leaders of the entire 4th generation ❤️🖤❤️🖤

@reinhoang7461

2 ай бұрын

While I agree that SKZ slowly built things up, they are fortunate for being in one of the big 3. You will never know what connections they have behind the closed door. I speculate that they used to be not that well known, but the moment they showed potential to blow up (God's Menu era), that was when JYP invested and gave them even more oppoturnities. In conclusion, I wouldn't think of SKZ as a self-made but a self-produce group in which the members are really passionate with their music.

@ImOnAutopilot

2 ай бұрын

@@reinhoang7461 that is of course, but we have examples in history of K-pop, that shows that even a group from a small company can become highly popular. Everyone knows the history about BTS and Big Hit Entertainment, right? What was a small company back then became what we can see today. Members of BTS at some point of history were sent back to dorm because of lack of funding. And look at them now. So, it's possible, and, I think, with the level of Stray Kids' talent it would be possible for them too.

@jksfangs

2 ай бұрын

I feel like you're missing the point that they were promoted through a survival show which usually generates a LARGE amount of traction (plus they are literally from JYP, so they already have eyes on them). Of course, they became ambassadors slowly over the years, but you have to remember that it wasn't the trend at the time to be signed as an ambassador.... when we talk about organic growth BTS would be the best example

@sweetlikebubblegum_

Ай бұрын

jyp is slow tho so

TF with you all people? 6 years ago you are all complaining to companies mistreating their idols and now these companies had changed the game for the better idol treatment and you still complaining?

I disagree with the shared fans part, majority ARMYs are CAROTs and vice versa.

@lucidalvamaria2554

2 ай бұрын

Carats*

I really don't have time to follow all the KPOP tea, so I follow this channel for the summaries. But taking jabs at HYBE (and their idols) every time really pisses me off...

Hybe went from being the struggling company to privileged company that's success loves success gotta love their hustle.

@ridddlesizzle

2 ай бұрын

NOT HYBE IT WAS BIGHIT ENTERTAINMENT, HYBE HAS NEVER STRUGGLED EVEN A BIT.

@stefania8292

2 ай бұрын

BIG HIT is not Hybe

@Thelma-gv5eo

Ай бұрын

What do I miss,Hype use to struggle?....what happen when they struggle bec all I remember was Bighit struggling 😔 🤧 🤔

HYBE bought awards, streaming with massive playlistening, brand deals and more and i am done with everyone pretending they didn't

@sophiandablay9829

2 ай бұрын

And what are they gonna do about it. Like there’s not point of complaining if nothings going to change just get on with your life

@ayesharehan2098

2 ай бұрын

lol sounds like ur new to kpop cuz literally every company did and still is doing what hybe is currently doing but just because they're are more open and out to the world doesn't mean they're the only villain here because the behind doors one are the worst worst

@TheRyno525

2 ай бұрын

LMAO!! Let's do something people used to do in the past for a minute... Let's think logically, Once a group wins an award does that award suddenly increase a company's profit margin? and if so provide proof how already won awards does so. I can tell you flat out it's worth NOTHING AFTER being awarded. So why would a company decrease it's profits to buy awards? and why would they pay for brand deals that they make nothing on? Decreasing profit again. Logic say's that sounds stupid and baseless UNLESS they lose money just to try to look cool for everyone on social media.....😂

@vixxexo6855

2 ай бұрын

@@sophiandablay9829Does Hybe pay you for you to defend them like that? Hybe legit uses playlistening for their streetwalkers New Jeans. Their songs are flop in the west and somehow they are in western playlists.

@BELIEVER78989

2 ай бұрын

Big 3 did the same back then infact they did even worse, I am glad finally someone is taking over the Big 3 monopoly in the industry.

it's envy that the pre-debut group was at fashion week , they were just invited because the brand also wants their brand to be promoted even steeper . .

Fans criticise companies for not properly promoting their artists. And yet they hate on hybe for using their money to promote their groups?? Sending ILLIT to the Paris fashion show is a way of promoting them and giving them exposure before their debut. What’s wrong with that?? Haters just seem to see them as a threat to their faves… Groups debuting under the Big 3 + Hybe have always been privileged. Why are people suddenly acting so surprised? Isn’t that privilege exactly the reason why trainees desire to debut under them? For guaranteed success and a steady income? This whole privilege discussion just seems so unnecessary to me… Kpop fans love to hate on Hybe since they’re the most successful company at the moment. Why hate on them especially when the Big 3 aren’t any better? All of them are definitely pulling some strings for their groups… It’s just more obvious with hybe… Let’s just chill

@sophiandablay9829

2 ай бұрын

FRRRR

Being a Brand Ambassador before releasing a single a song is ridiculous and does screams privilege. If anything, it risks hurting the groups reputation pre-debut. I don’t care if it’s being normalized; I do not support this trend and think it’s very cringy.

The big 3 always used their connections and power to push their groups..it only became a problem when it is hybe lmao The whole point of debuting in a big company is to get better promo Y’all are not ready for that discussion

@btsmochimi7924

Ай бұрын

Yes😂 people are villanizing privileges when everyone has one! Including folks who have access to the internet. We should try to lessen prying at other people's lives with envy. It would make the world a better place.

Just to make you clear hybe has amazing marketing ideas and strategy to bring up their idols in peak and if you have source using is it the better option rather than not contributing to their idols Newjeans brings a lot of sings after Attention and lots of people were eger to know about the group if they would be on hybe or not they would get famous and bringing up new concept and changes are important for a business as for ill it fans said the show have worst judgment thats why most of the people were not concered about them..I THINK THIS CREATOR HAVE JUST SOME ISSUE WITH HYBE

It’s like being sm idol circa 2009-2012, and yg idol circa 2015-2018. Why so surprise? I swear kpop stans always looking for villain of all things.

Tbh, I used to have an ex-coworker that came from Hong Kong. She told me a story about how her friend went to SM entertainment and became a trainee. He has been trained for a few years. He actually trained with super junior when they were still trainee. However, SM didn’t pick him in the debut line, so at the end he left SM and now he became a stylist in China. My coworker actually show me his pictures and he actually looks so good hahaha.

@aerabyeol

Ай бұрын

thats so cool hahs

@kellycnbunny1929

Ай бұрын

@@aerabyeol Yeah it’s, but sadly he couldn’t make to the debut line. Due to back then the company can only put one Chinese member into that group. Which only Han Geng can get that offer.

@jeppyjep

Ай бұрын

People dont realize that luck plays a huge factor in debuting. They thought its all hard work and talents but there's countless of trainees that worked just as hard yet didnt debut.

@kellycnbunny1929

Ай бұрын

@@jeppyjep Yep, plus out of budget back then.

my thing is, its reasonable for bts and blackpink for example to get this opportunity to be global ambassadors because of their impact OVER time, i get that this groups are popular and have reached a gp acceptance to some level but the reason bts and bp are at the level they are is because they are an annomaly, they literally reached a level of popularity unhear of and after years and years and hard work on their career they got these opportunities with brands, giving that out to rookies and groups that havent even debuted yet and on top of that havent even proved themselves periodically just seems insane and honestly takes all the prestige of how much their sunbaes have worked to be where they are for them to just receive it as soon as they debut... seems very unfair to me, at least give them 3 years to prove themselves. i get the idea of "if they have the resources, why not" as a business major it makes total sense from a strategic business plan, at the end of the day, the more revenue they get if they get their groups out there as much as they can its just very insatisfactory to watch because it makes the group look like they aint worhty of it or havent worked hard enough of it compared to their seniors

@aerabyeol

Ай бұрын

nah bp had it from the begining they didnt build themselves the company did this can only ork for groups like bts, skz, twice, gidle etc

@iamandreasilva

Ай бұрын

@@aerabyeol what are u talking about? they started the embassador thingy 3 years after their debit, they never were ambassadors before that

@aerabyeol

Ай бұрын

they started in 2017..@@iamandreasilva

LOL all of your complains but that was a company is suppose to be doing 😂 HYBE really know how to sell their idols.

jype cant relate, they are already certified by iso that their company is clean and doesnt do payola/manipulations/sajaegi. jype groups took YEARS (especially twice, stray kids, itzy) before getting brand ambassadorships

@orion5445

2 ай бұрын

That mainly bc JYP who's an idol himself is in charge of debuting new groups.

@potathottwit7604

2 ай бұрын

​@@orion5445 yes that's true he's icuded in the process of choosing who to debut but the sad part is he rarely participate in the making of concept, music & promotions of the groups whom he helped be formed. Its just sad since jyp (the man himself) wrote, choreographed & produced songs to his artists that helped them go big & even bigger especially with TWICE. But after seeing the music twice, itzy & nmixx put out, I guess its safe to say that he definitely hired new staffs in the headquarters since they're doing good. Might not be in charts but the feedback overall?? Its much better compared to 2022 & 2023

@Thelma-gv5eo

Ай бұрын

❤️🙌👏👏 so damn true

@vwxyzee

Ай бұрын

😂😂 so youre telling other groups except jyp is doing payola lol

@sankijeu

Ай бұрын

@@vwxyzee erm...look it up yourself jype as a company has already been examined and certified for not practicing corruption in the company by ISO. not their fault if other companies arent certified clean in payola

HYBE is the most successful and famous music and entertainment company in Korea and Internationally with great recognition. Hybe came from nothing to now a multi million empire that continues to grow and expand. Ppl can knock them all they want but they cannot deny the impact of Hybe. Hybe are the biggest, powerful force in the industry to be reckoned with, their position at the top, highly respected and to be commended. Hybe know how to succeed in business and they know how to nuture all the newest and future talents. They excel at what they do and that has got them to where they are today. They have and continue to produce great music and great Artists. To be an idol for the prestigious Hybe, you are very lucky and have a chance of a great career under their wings, if you have the work ethic, the determination and the potential, Hybe supports and steers you to great success. Long may Hybe prosper. Hybe is always the best and is only for the best.

@SBBunny93

2 ай бұрын

Most successful COMPANIES because Hybe has like 100 subsidiaries lol.

@oofgottarunn

2 ай бұрын

@@SBBunny93 is that a bad thing? if anything it just allows more staff teams to focus on their respective groups, u wont have to worry about a certain group being ignored or thrown into the dungeon.

@SBBunny93

2 ай бұрын

@@oofgottarunn never said it was lol.

@SBBunny93

2 ай бұрын

@@oofgottarunn and no you don’t have to worry about being thrown into the dungeon just disbanded lol.

@Multi_Stan148

2 ай бұрын

Bruh hell no!, HYBE is one of the most incompetent companies ever. Atp they are just gambling instead of making groups. They treat their artist like shit and don't even protect them. There are many examples of their shitty treatment and ignorance. 1 BTS: During I-land Taehyung said that he was once scolded for putting SALT on his chicken, Suga said in an episode of Suchwita that they ( BTS ) would go to a restaurant that gave many free side dishes, they would eat some, and then ask the restaurant to save the rest so that they can eat it later. 2 TXT: Pre-debut TXT used to get 1-2 drinks and mix water into them so that all 5 members could drink them. Not to mention the shitty practice rooms. 3 Seventeen: They got physical punishments. Le Serafilm: Lost a member because of false bullying accusations, the company couldn't protect Garam. Zerobaseone: Ricky was insulted during a live just because he didn't get permission beforehand. Kepler: Do I even have to write anything?

You've made very valid points, and it makes sense when the company want to promote them, but they should be promoting their music. They could put them in a musical event not a fashion one. Even tho now days fashion is part of being a k idol, music should always come first. And still, as a fashion lover, I feel like people should earn this place and not have it be something earned from money.

Bro whoever said hybe artists aren’t close needs to wake up because they are all literally close and even have a gc together and TxT’s soobin kept a check on enhypen when the members got covid and they even did a game show for all the artists (at the time) and TxT and enhypen did a game show together

@orion5445

2 ай бұрын

Well you see the difference here is that idols under Big 3 literally grew up training together so you get more of a family sense from those labels than HYBE.

It’s not only hybe bestie.

HYBE isn’t comparable to SM, JYP, and YG. The labels ** under ** HYBE are comparable to SM, JYP, and YG HYBE isn’t a label. HYBE is not an entertainment company. Nothing exists like HYBE in Korea before HYBE.

join hybe is so hard. n even harder to be debuted. when they finally can debut, why cant theu have privilege?

What I’m hearing is there’s no proof of anything and people are just jealous of idols who get to debut under Hybe because BTS are huge artists 💀 People are taking Brand Ambassadorships too seriously. Jennie from Blackpink got her Chanel brand deal when she was just a rookie, the other members were also invited to numerous events just like NewJeans before they decided on a certain brand. It only took the other Blackpink members so long because YG was holding them back which is why the 3 got brand deals around the same time when their 1st full album dropped. People need to think logically instead of being very jealous of successful idols under popular companies. Brand deals are for publicity a brand chooses a model who is very popular to represent them which is why they have MANY. If an idol or group is booking a lot of brand deals in South Korea and are called Blue Chips then don’t be surprised they’re getting a brand deal with a luxury brand

As long a bang pd still in hybe, my trust still with hybe. Bang pd sees potential in the long run instead of the current talent. Reminded I-land when Sunoo get chosen instead of K. Idol ≠ pure singer. Idol is total package. You cant blame the company and idols if they are popular, its the fan and public who make them popular. No one can be popular without fans. As long as the company is not associated with drugs, abuse power and overwork idols, I am actually okay. For musicality part, it can be both subjective and objective. Fans have grown affection towards their idols, even if they dont sound as good as other idols, they are blinded by love. As long as fans are happy, I dont think anything else matters. Just because your favourite idol is less popular doesnt give you the right to bring down less talented idols. Less talented idols need to work harder to improve themselves, their fans find satisfactions from seeing improvements over the years. Idols are dream job for both talented and untalented people. Fans choose who they want to like. Regardless of the hate, true fans wont back down from seeing their potential and supporting their source of happiness.

@sashastephans

Ай бұрын

Stop building your para social relationship with bang PD, you will only get hurt in the end. Please stop it.

@trna5252

Ай бұрын

@@sashastephans thats the risk of being a fan. Life wont be as much fun if you detach yourself too much. Rather than parasocial, I would prefer use the word branding. Trust in the work of artists that I admire; musician, writer, producer, painter, mangaka etc

@sashastephans

Ай бұрын

@@trna5252 if you say so 🤷

Connections & Payola (sajaegi). YG & JYP is already cleared with ISO, they're 100% transparent with everything put out so the remaining definitely pulls ton shit of strings. YG & JYP may have connection BUT this type of connection isn't something YG & JYP would pull.

@mickavo1650

2 ай бұрын

Lol only JYP that had been cleared

@BELIEVER78989

2 ай бұрын

YG and SM are the kings of payola😂😂😂

@Thelma-gv5eo

Ай бұрын

Your pfp😂😂😂

@Starlight06

Ай бұрын

Hybe is literally certified, it’s been verified they don’t pay their way to awards or brand deals, be so for real rn. The Hybe hate train is so forced yall look so funny

This video is very disingenuous; they've had plenty of exposure prior to this fashion show. And no shit they have HYBE support, they are owned by HYBE. It's not privilege, it's business.

I find it so ironic that BTS was an underdog group from an underdog company, but now that HYBE has become totally the topdog and dominated everything. I also found the fashion show invite is quite out of vanity and privilege rather than any substance. These fashion shows should focus on celebrities that have been in the industry for a while and people associated with fashion like they used to do. This new Kpop trend of having new idols or un-debuted idols to fashion shows has cheapened the whole fashion shows too!

@paularsg_

2 ай бұрын

nah illit ate. they looked awesome and if u were even slightly interested in the group you'd know that they're known for their unique style even as predebut idols

Kpop companies built their kingdom owing to the "family" they created among kpop stans per company as dabbled on in this video. Their rookie groups always had sure fans because of that so called family. Now those fandoms remain bitter about BTS being the outsider who overtook everyone to unreachable levels and naturally, all groups under Hybe still are the outsiders to that long reigning rule big3 stans were used to and were a part of. Crazy when you realize privilege was not an issue until they could no longer catch up to Hybe.

when idols get treated badly, you guys complain. when the label treat their artist so well, you call them 'privilege kids' or 'nepo babies'.. wtf you guys want? sheesh

You touched on it really briefly but Riize has two already debuted (and popular) idols in the group so when the group debuted, getting a brand deal so soon makes sense when two of the idols were already 3 years into their career and had already had offers coming in for a few years.

Hybe is making big3 stans shake and I love it 😂😂😂😂😂

They have all been doing it. It just that HYBE don't need to hide it they know their ambition. They didn't come here to play and business is business. There is no problem here.