The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli | Chazz Palminteri & Michael Franzese

Explore the intriguing wisdom of Machiavelli's "The Prince" in our latest episode of The Wise and The Wiseguy, hosted by Chazz Palminteri and Michael Franzese. Join us as we dive into the deeper meanings behind this classic text. Discover how Machiavelli's counsel to rulers may have served a dual purpose-guiding leaders while subtly alerting the public to potential government tactics. Don't miss this captivating discussion that sheds light on the intricacies of power dynamics and the timeless relevance of historical insights. #TheWiseAndTheWiseguy #Machiavelli #ThePrince
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  • @billslim1112
    @billslim11129 ай бұрын

    Spot on about Machiavelli. If you actually look at his life, he worked his whole life to have a fair and democratic republic but then was exiled from power when he wrote the book. It was really his last jab at the people that exiled him by exposing their secrets and the tricks they use to keep power.

  • @samvojtech1153

    @samvojtech1153

    9 ай бұрын

    That's profound! Those power hungry folks are probably rolling in their graves... or maybe one of Dante's circles of the enferno.

  • @JohMartin37

    @JohMartin37

    9 ай бұрын

    A democratic republic? Lol it's one or the other big guy

  • @JohMartin37

    @JohMartin37

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@samvojtech1153maybe? Lol

  • @billslim1112

    @billslim1112

    9 ай бұрын

    @@JohMartin37 I can't tell if you're joking or you're actually this stupid

  • @lymphomasurvive

    @lymphomasurvive

    9 ай бұрын

    @@JohMartin37Your comment isn’t as smart as you think it is.

  • @sethburro6031
    @sethburro60319 ай бұрын

    I don't tolerate lying from people anymore... and now most people have a problem with me... which I believe shows everyone is living in a false reality. But I've become successful as a result. I appreciate what you both are doing here these young men need examples from experienced people like you.

  • @sethburro6031

    @sethburro6031

    9 ай бұрын

    @DIRECT-CALL what's happening?

  • @DemonsRow
    @DemonsRow9 ай бұрын

    These two together is Gold

  • @georgetaylor8591
    @georgetaylor8591Ай бұрын

    These two make a great sit down!! Love these guys and their way of talking the truth!!

  • @Hewhogreetswithfjre
    @Hewhogreetswithfjre8 ай бұрын

    Machiavelli said “ for a prince it’s better to be feared then loved. Because love is held with chains of obligation but fear is held with the dread of punishment”

  • @user-iq3yp2gm4w
    @user-iq3yp2gm4w9 ай бұрын

    Machiavelli states it's far better to be feared than loved if you cannot have both .

  • @Neza1234
    @Neza12349 ай бұрын

    We need a longer version

  • @janelwood585
    @janelwood5859 ай бұрын

    Michael, I am your age. The Prince and Dante’s epic poem Devine Comedy (including the Inferno-his journey thru the 9 circles of Hell) were required reading my freshman year in college. Wow! What an introduction to adulthood. They taught so many life lessons. Great podcast, gentlemen.

  • @thechase-secondchance5077
    @thechase-secondchance50778 ай бұрын

    My dad was just a kid in the 30's and 40's, growing up north of Boston. He could have gone either way in life. One time he was given a job, running numbers for some people. He walked into a room with a bag and put it on a table. A senior guy looked at him, turned and looked at the other people in the room and said to my dad, "You're Johnny M. I know your father...I know your mother. Good people. Honest people. I don't want to see you come back here ever again. Now, get out of here, go home and tell your parents you love them." My dad never went back. And no one ever bothered him or his family.

  • @Chris-oi2lr

    @Chris-oi2lr

    7 ай бұрын

    And then you woke up buddy

  • @thechase-secondchance5077

    @thechase-secondchance5077

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Chris-oi2lrtrue story.

  • @carlosherrera5624
    @carlosherrera56248 ай бұрын

    These lessons are awesome!!!!

  • @elvismawhinney2494
    @elvismawhinney24949 ай бұрын

    Aw been waiting on this book review it’s a classic. Art of war soon also? Peace from Ireland 🇮🇪 ✌🏼

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    We might do that book also. Thanks for watching!

  • @Negan_1
    @Negan_19 ай бұрын

    Always one of the highlights of the week your uploads. Cheers to you both 🍷

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    So happy to know that!

  • @Khorinis139andLennox-dd2yc
    @Khorinis139andLennox-dd2yc9 ай бұрын

    Michael, you keep amazing me. Watching your growth is healing to me.

  • @danielcreed8520
    @danielcreed85209 ай бұрын

    Personally, I think anyone who exposes scams is more trustworthy than people who dare you believe that stuff can't happen to you; Why would anyone mind calling out BS, unless they had a horse in the race? This is the same reason I trust Robert Greene (as Machiavelli) for advice. Used to be a great world when you could rely on someone's word & a handshake. Thanks guys! Been looking forward to this book review. We love your work!

  • @SQTierHog
    @SQTierHog9 ай бұрын

    As always, this is gonna be great! Thanks Mr F and Mr P!

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your support! Means so much to us.

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer9 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤Great book. Machiavelli was the writer, he wrote of the Prince based on. Cesar Borgia the Spanish prince. At that time, Spain was in charge and Italy was just coming together. Great lessons learned: You need to show up. Keep your enemy’s close. The fox and lion You need to be like a fox know your environment and time. The lion when you need to react you react like a lion with anger. “Respect.” ?Frank Martinez Downey California

  • @mikeaguero2875

    @mikeaguero2875

    9 ай бұрын

    It's not "based" on Borgia ... He definitely did inspire Mac to write it though

  • @vitorferreira6062

    @vitorferreira6062

    9 ай бұрын

    Based on the "perfect Prince of Portugal" . Actually King John II of Portugal.

  • @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    7 ай бұрын

    All wrong. It's not based off anyone. Apart from the guy that wrote it.

  • @vitorferreira6062

    @vitorferreira6062

    7 ай бұрын

    @@AndrewRobertson-kl4vi actually, ir was really based on John II off Portugal. Literally...

  • @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    7 ай бұрын

    @@vitorferreira6062 yeah you said that. Don't buy it...

  • @leilagomulka5690
    @leilagomulka56909 ай бұрын

    Trust is everything. So true.

  • @emilysytpage
    @emilysytpage9 ай бұрын

    Best one so far. Really appreciate you guys doing this

  • @nighthawkkilla
    @nighthawkkilla9 ай бұрын

    What an amazing show, you both balance each other so perfectly.

  • @evancarson5011
    @evancarson50119 ай бұрын

    Thank you again for these. The insight you both have is rivaled to none. Stay blessed gentlemen👌

  • @blackgoliath962
    @blackgoliath9629 ай бұрын

    Very informative! Respect to the Wise Men

  • @husseinrashid9845
    @husseinrashid98459 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much Chazz and Michael. Another great video!

  • @Truthseeker373
    @Truthseeker3739 ай бұрын

    Crazy, I’ve just been reading The Prince, the illustrated version of the book by Global Classics which I bought on Amazon. Love it! And this popped up!

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall20239 ай бұрын

    Love ❤️ Niccolo Machiavelli The Prince 👑 Number 3 on my top 5 books 📚

  • @deltamkb

    @deltamkb

    9 күн бұрын

    What are your other top books?

  • @Randall2023

    @Randall2023

    9 күн бұрын

    @@deltamkb 1) Sun Tzu The Art of War 2) Henry David Thoreau 3) Niccolo Machiavelli The Prince 👑 4) 48 Laws of Power By Robert Greene 5) Choose Your Enemies Wisely By Patrick Bet-David

  • @MomentumMarketingTips
    @MomentumMarketingTips9 ай бұрын

    Straight wisdom here. Thanks guys

  • @SQTierHog
    @SQTierHog9 ай бұрын

    I better switch it around a little, lol... Thank you Mr P and Mr F. Brilliant lessons here, especially for my teenage sons!

  • @ythagakure
    @ythagakure9 ай бұрын

    Amazing 📕 Book… reviewed by two brilliant minds!

  • @wayneeasterbrook4128
    @wayneeasterbrook41289 ай бұрын

    Excellent episode Gentlemen. Looking forward to the following episodes with your takes on other writings.

  • @samvojtech1153
    @samvojtech11539 ай бұрын

    This podcast is so enlightening! I've read The Prince twice & it is enlightening, as well. I suggest a review of Dante's Inferno. That one is a book I will never fully understand but epic storytelling at it's best! I like to think of Dante as the Virgil to Machiavelli's Dante. Thanks so much, Men!

  • @PinkuStyle
    @PinkuStyle9 ай бұрын

    When wise mem speak, you close your mouth and listen!!

  • @patsydcomo
    @patsydcomo9 ай бұрын

    A book I read in college. Love the book!

  • @deborahbenazzi898
    @deborahbenazzi8989 ай бұрын

    Another excellent lesson-thank you wise men!❤️🙏

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @hansbenedickvelasco2511
    @hansbenedickvelasco25117 ай бұрын

    This is the kind of podcast that kids today needs to hear

  • @barbaraadams8219
    @barbaraadams82199 ай бұрын

    Excellent review. Oh the things I wish I had known. Bringing this forward now is great information for the youth of today. Thank you both for sharing your wisdom from your life experience

  • @p4pking.
    @p4pking.9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this great episode of knowledge 💯.

  • @p4pking.

    @p4pking.

    9 ай бұрын

    @DIRECT-CALL GET A JOB AND STOP TRYING TO RIP PPL OFF YOU SCAMMER.

  • @gazh9255
    @gazh92559 ай бұрын

    Great Value as always definitely making a difference thank you much gratitude.

  • @mbe131
    @mbe1319 ай бұрын

    Once again viejones! Saludos. Thanks for the Game

  • @LB__1
    @LB__19 ай бұрын

    I absolutely loved this video and the lesson. The Prince is one of my favorite books. Is there a chance of doing a video of Sun Tzu's Art of War in the future?

  • @cveroespinoza
    @cveroespinoza9 ай бұрын

    Love this!!!

  • @jezzbaker5111
    @jezzbaker51119 ай бұрын

    Absolute legends 🔥🔥🔥

  • @sunnybeachwalks4k2022
    @sunnybeachwalks4k20229 ай бұрын

    Been waiting a long time for this ! ❤ 👏🏻

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    It's finally here. And this is not the last time we're doing this book.

  • @matthewselman4579
    @matthewselman45799 ай бұрын

    Thanks guys

  • @toyasplace6128
    @toyasplace61289 ай бұрын

    I like this. I'm gonna keep watching.

  • @Chaoxianghuang
    @Chaoxianghuang19 күн бұрын

    Keep doing these book reviews 🔥 I'm going to subscribe thx

  • @Tyrock67
    @Tyrock679 ай бұрын

    Very, very good episode.

  • @meenalaregina7770
    @meenalaregina77709 ай бұрын

    Hi Michael and Chazz! How are you? Il Principe is the only book that I have read several times. It’s a great guide. Looking forward! 👑

  • @GeneClements
    @GeneClements9 ай бұрын

    The phrase "Peace for our time" is famously associated with British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. He uttered these words in a speech on September 30, 1938, after returning from a meeting with Adolf Hitler.

  • @ethansamuel5671
    @ethansamuel56719 ай бұрын

    AMAZING CONTENT

  • @jameshamm801
    @jameshamm8019 ай бұрын

    Nice Show!!!!

  • @leilagomulka5690
    @leilagomulka56909 ай бұрын

    You both rock and roll

  • @stevegarcia5932
    @stevegarcia59329 ай бұрын

    Keep up the great work Gentlemen shout out 💯🤟🏽

  • @Strangingness
    @Strangingness9 ай бұрын

    Loving this fellas, there’s alot of books I need to read, I’ve never been much of a reader but I want to be because books give you such wisdom and perspectives that you can’t find through the internet

  • @brownjatt21

    @brownjatt21

    9 ай бұрын

    I love books but cannot for the life of me ever finish one. I gave up and started with audio books. Maybe that'll work. If anything read along while the audio plays.

  • @pyrese
    @pyrese9 ай бұрын

    This is great. Class is in session

  • @jonnydoe11
    @jonnydoe119 ай бұрын

    Would be great of you guys could do a podcast on Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

  • @user-jv4fk9ec5m
    @user-jv4fk9ec5m9 ай бұрын

    Love it 👑👑♥️♥️

  • @sammygaudino8906
    @sammygaudino89069 ай бұрын

    Great book I've just read it.

  • @scottparker9756
    @scottparker97569 ай бұрын

    Iv audiobooked that book twice just got the book to read out library to day

  • @MotivationGMS
    @MotivationGMS9 ай бұрын

    Appreciate

  • @alexkarman4679
    @alexkarman46792 күн бұрын

    A serious academic endeavor is comparing and contrasting Machiavelli's "The Prince" with Castigliano's "The Courtier" -- two diametrically opposed handbooks for princes. Machiavelli recommends maintaining a low profile, yet getting he high priority items done, whereas Castiglione recommends "sprezzatura" (little flame): being a shining example to the prince, focusing on getting the more spectacular and therefore more persuasive items done.

  • @joshbrownell551
    @joshbrownell5519 ай бұрын

    I really want to read this book

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    Highly recommended. You can definitely learn so much from it.

  • @jamesdoherty5666
    @jamesdoherty56667 ай бұрын

    Gentlemen, I’ve got to tell you I admire the hell out of both of you Michael always admired you when I was a little kid, but I saw the whole thing go down and it was in the paper every day. I was like 10 years old reading up on all that and I said that guy is doing things right but I knew I always wanted to be an actor and I said maybe someday I can play in a movie Mr. Palmentari I just always admired your work as an actor, a writer and after 32 years of acting so far myself, I’m just waiting to retire from my police officer job how ironic and get back in the Hollywood full-time had a nice little five-year run while I was out there now I’m on the East Coast raising all my kids As soon as I retire in two years, I’m heading back out for three years stent. See if I can get things going again, but I have not stopped working the whole time the movie here, a movie there a commercial here a commercial there please keep this show I love it it passes time for me and it’s really insightful. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 God bless the both of you.

  • @royrey689
    @royrey6899 ай бұрын

    Fantastic episode, thank you! Would you consider As a man thinketh by James Allen? I think it would be a good one👍

  • @husseinrashid9845
    @husseinrashid98459 ай бұрын

    Please do one on The Richest Man in Babylon. Thank you!

  • @kenkrausse3624
    @kenkrausse36249 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    No, Thank you! Keep supporting my friend.

  • @NicknSuzSegura
    @NicknSuzSegura3 ай бұрын

    Good Morning from Santa Maria

  • @sirchadiusmaximusiii
    @sirchadiusmaximusiii8 ай бұрын

    I get in trouble constantly for NOT lying. That tells you all you need to know about today’s societal standards.

  • @jacksonbryant3862
    @jacksonbryant3862Ай бұрын

    Machiavelli wrote this to Lorenzo di Piero de' Medici, the ruler of Florence at the time. Lorenzo if I’m not mistaken was not a good prince and Machiavelli knew it. It was more about him being able to spread his writings than helping Lorenzo.

  • @martintinajero9140
    @martintinajero91409 ай бұрын

    I think the prince is a interesting book, and the man who wrote it was a realist, and can we have a video talking about the art of war? I think the prince and the art of war are similar in a way.

  • @mikeaguero2875

    @mikeaguero2875

    9 ай бұрын

    They aren't similar but they go together like a burger goes together with fries

  • @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    @AndrewRobertson-kl4vi

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@mikeaguero2875Great analogy mate.

  • @daniel_najar
    @daniel_najar9 ай бұрын

    Some people will do anything to get power. This story from the book always stood out to me. Dude invited every powerful person in the city to a party and then killed them all. ------- When Agathocles the Sicilian became King of Syracuse, he did so not only as a private citizen, but as one who came from the lowliest and most humble circumstances. He was the son of a potter, and led a wicked life from first to last.30 And yet he combined his wickedness with such skill of mind and body that when he joined the army, he rose through the ranks to become Praetor of Syracuse. Once established in that position, he set about becoming prince and retaining his principality by means of violence, without depending on others for that which he had originally been granted by his fellow citizens. He conspired with Hamilcar the Carthaginian, 31 who was waging war in Sicily with his army, and one morning Agathocles called together the people and the senate of Syracuse as if to discuss important issues concerning the republic, and then at a signal to his soldiers had them kill all the senators and the richest men of the city. Then he became the unchallenged prince of that city.

  • @carlitocouture8640
    @carlitocouture86409 ай бұрын

    this editing is so weird i hate how it cuts just so we can hear these two go on and on

  • @maryryan9464

    @maryryan9464

    9 ай бұрын

    Your watching too much tv, I dont get ur editing comment I gotta be honest

  • @Maxim89Il
    @Maxim89Il9 ай бұрын

    Exactly! The whole book is a sarcastic criticism of those in power. They didn't need his advice to do what he was already doing. Even the title, "The Prince." A prince. In a Republic.

  • @laterrydorsey303

    @laterrydorsey303

    9 ай бұрын

    It's not a Prince in a republic. It's a Prince in a Principality. Essentially, a Monarchy type government. He addresses republics in The Discourses on Livey. I wonder if Michael is familiar with that one. I think you should read it again...

  • @bigfrankfraser1391
    @bigfrankfraser13916 ай бұрын

    the prince is one of many books i have read in my time working as a vatican archivist (i always read when not busy) the prince was one that i leant to a priest friend (lovely guy, hes now a bishop), he said that the prince along with the book of five rings are 2 books everyone should read, they are such important works in terms of existing as human beings. my takeaway from the prince was that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" edit: i even had my own little nook deep in the archives that to this day has a little plaque that says "the second home of father francis" it was put there by the devils advocate (an actual job in the vatican) i often got into philosophical debates with, he put the plaque there when i retired and told me "even though you are no longer an archivist you are always welcome to sit here and read" and whenever im in italy, i pop by and go to my little nook and read. i am no longer a priest due to personal reasons and whenever i visit the vatican i still somehow get into fun little debates with the devils advocate

  • @josephmuela5389
    @josephmuela53899 ай бұрын

    I read part of the prince in high school. What I believe is that, over the years, it leads to looking for other books that slowly slide you down the hill into self destruction. But that’s me

  • @SA-kz6zc

    @SA-kz6zc

    9 ай бұрын

    So you feel like it was a negative thing to read it?

  • @sprafa

    @sprafa

    9 ай бұрын

    It seems like Michael (correctly ?) picked up that it’s meant to be a satire of dishonest governance, not a praise and manual to do it. Similar to how Wolf of Wall Street is understood by finance types to be a great romp because they ignore the ending

  • @maryryan9464

    @maryryan9464

    9 ай бұрын

    Can understand comment on reading miachavelli, but one question is this the same miachavelli that Tupac quoted persay.

  • @jjosifovic
    @jjosifovic9 ай бұрын

    It’s a good book I’m also a fan of Cesare Borgia

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    We might check it out too!

  • @bobmckenzie946
    @bobmckenzie9469 ай бұрын

    Chazz that is so true what your father said about the mob my dad said some same thing but different context he said make people want what you can offer and not want what they can offer you godbless you and Michael youse both are veterans in your field I feel blessed to be able to watch youse guys and learn more ❤

  • @loganm986
    @loganm9868 ай бұрын

    Something about 2 Italian wiseguys talking about a Florentine noble where it was basically the mafia in the city-states is funny to think about how things dont change in 500 years or 5000 years

  • @yacovrubin47
    @yacovrubin478 ай бұрын

    "to live outside the law you must be honest" B.Dylan

  • @danxxfriedman6070
    @danxxfriedman60702 ай бұрын

    Chaz read the Bad War by King

  • @SolidDragonUK
    @SolidDragonUK9 ай бұрын

    Given the subject matter and the individual. One could think that material gain was the priority.

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield41735 ай бұрын

    A big part of The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli takes after Cesare Borgia. In this work, Machiavelli idealizes him and uses him as an example as the ideal exercise of politics. An exercise that, according to Machiavelli, doesn’t have to respond to morality but only to the laws of power. Bing search

  • @blabberwulf7650
    @blabberwulf76509 ай бұрын

    How many did you watch ?

  • @mrgraham5521
    @mrgraham55219 ай бұрын

    Great book. The best novel on philosophy for my money is The Brothers Karamazov. Have either of you read it? If so, quick thoughts?

  • @Plentolen
    @Plentolen2 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @mattsilver1550
    @mattsilver15509 ай бұрын

    Does anybody know the best translation for the prince , in Canada

  • @franciscohorna5542
    @franciscohorna55429 ай бұрын

    great video wathen right now god bless me safe there

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    Enjoy watching this episode!

  • @ubv273
    @ubv2739 ай бұрын

    You should read arthashastra written by chanakya, he was an ancient indian statesman/sage, he was responsible for building one of the largest empire in the world.

  • @maryryan9464
    @maryryan94649 ай бұрын

    Oprah, but written by the late jerry springer another good listen💯

  • @user-jm3sy6kd5f
    @user-jm3sy6kd5f9 ай бұрын

    Please review the book Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.

  • @Jay1980bka
    @Jay1980bka9 ай бұрын

    Lots of glitches in this video

  • @stephenreeds3632
    @stephenreeds36325 ай бұрын

    Fascinating that neither interrupts. Machiavelli had that down. A man who interrupts is trying to assert power. Beware of them.

  • @reneehomen2226
    @reneehomen22269 ай бұрын

    I agree that , lie to me once , ok, lie to me again , I'm done.

  • @stevenguevara2184
    @stevenguevara21849 ай бұрын

    It should be required reading in high school. I feel He was an Italian patriot who was tired of The Church, and Foreigners reeking havoc on The Peninsula. He wanted a united State.

  • @turkish.2651
    @turkish.26519 ай бұрын

    Machiavelli is the indian chanakya ⭐️

  • @RealAmericanSicko
    @RealAmericanSicko8 ай бұрын

    this was great. about mandatory service - unfortunately the military isnt what it used to be. look up jamesons travels he coverd military content. pretty enlightening

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall20239 ай бұрын

    Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

  • @zlexgamer9407
    @zlexgamer94074 ай бұрын

    Thank you for mentioned us, long live Israel 🇮🇱❤️

  • @Stephen340
    @Stephen3409 ай бұрын

    You guys should read gypsies the hidden American it about gypsy history in America

  • @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    @TheWiseandtheWiseguy

    9 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the suggestion. We'll keep that in mind.

  • @alanturner4326
    @alanturner43268 ай бұрын

    Bertrand Russell said the prince was a hand book for the mafia.

  • @morgancasey
    @morgancasey9 ай бұрын

    Would you ever take an interest in the Book of Five Rings ?:)

  • @RaineriRi
    @RaineriRi9 ай бұрын

    I'm more of an Anti-Machiavel guy. Frederick didn't have to write a job application like Niccolo did, and he dissected and refuted Niccolo's arguments well because he clearly had a better understanding of said issues due to his background and status. And even though Frederick basically forgot his own teachings soon after the book was published, I personally prefer his view of the world over Niccolo's.

  • @laterrydorsey303

    @laterrydorsey303

    9 ай бұрын

    Who is Fredrick? And what was refuted? Because Machiavelli is mostly about human nature. No one refutes human nature.

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