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The Physics of Titanic's Final Plunge!

In this video we take a deep look into the final moments of the RMS Titanic and discuss what happened to the ships stern during her final moments.
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  • @csajal
    @csajal3 ай бұрын

    I have seen the ocean on a completely moonless starry night, and it's unimaginably dark. I can't even begin to fathom the horror the passengers faced during the sinking.

  • @fidan2fast

    @fidan2fast

    3 ай бұрын

    Imagine even being one of the survivors and hearing screams and metal screeching and banging in complete darkness

  • @paulr75

    @paulr75

    3 ай бұрын

    True we crossed the Atlantic in December on queen mary 2 southanpton to New York,only then can you appreciate the true horror of what it must have been like to have the ship dissapear beneath you,its just so vast out there

  • @lesliecarr312

    @lesliecarr312

    3 ай бұрын

    Wanna try fathoming the horror of the helm watch when TITANIC was barreling in at full speed and they saw that iceberg in their face at the last minute?

  • @csajal

    @csajal

    3 ай бұрын

    @lesliecarr312 True. That's why the actions of Mr. Murdoch during the proceedings of that fateful night were nothing short of legendary. He knew, realised, and appreciated the horror that's going unfold before anyone else could (minus the crow's nest)

  • @AnimeSunglasses

    @AnimeSunglasses

    3 ай бұрын

    Dread. Dread that must have felt as deep as the sea beneath them...

  • @ministryofanti-feminism1493
    @ministryofanti-feminism14933 ай бұрын

    The scale of the violence of the Titanic's demise never fails to leave me incredulous.

  • @asdf9890

    @asdf9890

    2 ай бұрын

    I feel bad for those who may have been inside during the decent 😢. What a terror for final moments.

  • @ministryofanti-feminism1493

    @ministryofanti-feminism1493

    2 ай бұрын

    @@asdf9890 It's fairly certain that there would have been people trapped inside the stern before it imploded. Horrifying notion.

  • @asdfomfglol

    @asdfomfglol

    15 күн бұрын

    Search "the lusitania". It's much worse, a similar ship to the titanic. The titanic sank in 2hours and something. The Lusitania sank in 18 minutes.

  • @GeoHvl
    @GeoHvl3 ай бұрын

    I was on a US Navy FFG out of Charleston with Mine sweeper support. Our home was the North Atlantic. I have witnessed its fury and its calms like glass. We stopped at the location given by Titanic to Carpathia in April 1975. On a beautiful, clear, cold day, the ship's Pastor gave a service, and we offered our prayers. There were no Gulls, just the vast, clear ocean and silence. I still get this horrible empty feeling from that day, thinking about all those people.

  • @brave_jedi9437
    @brave_jedi94373 ай бұрын

    You’ve included sinking animations from Honor and Glory, National Geographic, and the James Cameron movie in one video. That’s impressive, Sam.

  • @KingreX32
    @KingreX323 ай бұрын

    I feel like I'm cheating on Mike Brady by watching this video.

  • @thenatedawg1994

    @thenatedawg1994

    3 ай бұрын

    😅😅

  • @patrickhavice4541

    @patrickhavice4541

    2 ай бұрын

    Our poor friend, Mike Brady misses you

  • @jus10lewissr

    @jus10lewissr

    2 ай бұрын

    That's how I feel when I watch the Big Old Boats channel but his stuff is pretty good.

  • @GeezerVR

    @GeezerVR

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @FalconFlyer75

    @FalconFlyer75

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought he was a fan of Mike Brady

  • @TheKnightsShield
    @TheKnightsShield3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that fine forensic analysis, Mr Pence. Of course, the experience of it was... somewhat different.

  • @DeltaAlphaNovember27
    @DeltaAlphaNovember273 ай бұрын

    Thanks for confirming that the heavy steel engines don’t float!

  • @insanejughead

    @insanejughead

    2 ай бұрын

    That question has haunted me for ages. So glad to finally know!

  • @asdf9890

    @asdf9890

    2 ай бұрын

    Made total sense when he described it!

  • @user-hq6nh1rn9n

    @user-hq6nh1rn9n

    Ай бұрын

    Ships are also made of heavy steel, and they do float.

  • @titanicandbritannicproduct1912
    @titanicandbritannicproduct19123 ай бұрын

    Titanic's double bottom during the break up be like: I need to make my creators proud! AH-.... well that didn't go to plan.

  • @Realericpickens
    @Realericpickens3 ай бұрын

    The stern did not go nearly as vertical as some of the animations show. James Cameron discussed this when he ‘discovered’ that the stern could either have gone under vertically, or splashed back down when the ship broke in 2, but not both.

  • @TheDogGeneral

    @TheDogGeneral

    16 күн бұрын

    Lacking photography or video evidence of each we can't be sure the exact nature and sequence of the events if there's anything I've noticed after 50 years on Earth scenarios and depictions of the Titanic sinking in breaking into have shifted evolved and redefined over the years I for one I love the opinion that the two halves remained in one piece relative after Titanic left the surface and then separated somewhere on their way down to the bottom it's my take and I've had some people go into exorbitant fictional speculation as to the contrary which is fine in plausible but the key difference is we can't defend it really extrapolated because we're all third parties to that event there is no one alive on Earth today that was present at the sinking of the Titanic and despite its well documented event and eyewitness accounts they remain inconclusive on specific details

  • @a-guy1912
    @a-guy19123 ай бұрын

    Historic travels is the real bright side

  • @Rose19127

    @Rose19127

    3 ай бұрын

    It rocks!!

  • @Rose19127
    @Rose191273 ай бұрын

    Wow!! Sweet!!! Thanks for your presentation of the sinking of the Lusitania today!! That was amazing video!! Science and history all in one day!!

  • @PointReflex
    @PointReflex3 ай бұрын

    So my hypothesis was kinda right, it was the weight of the engines that pulled the stern down NOT the bow itself. However on a side note since most of the damage was concentrated around the forward section of the engine room, the bulkhead behind it could have been practically intact. This would explain why the Stern stayed in that slight inclined position for about a minute or two, in other words: after the breakup the engines pulled the forward section under the water so hard that the water went over that bulkhead and started to flood that compartment. Once that area flooded, the Stern went more vertical and then the next compartment got compromised due to the angle of inclination, this gave the Stern a controlled momentum on its sinking powered by the dead weight of the engines and the step by step flooding of the compartments. Like I said in the previous part of this video, it was impossible for the bow to pull down the stern after the breakup since that would require the double bottom to sustain twice to thrice the forces for which it was intended for. Plus the bow wouldn't slowly sink underwater on its own, it already lost its buoyancy and had double its weight because of that, it would have plunged full speed as soon as it disconnected itself from most of the main body that held it near the surface. A chunk of double bottom could never deal with that on its own.

  • @N19htcat

    @N19htcat

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes! I agree with most of the stuff. I also want to add, that the bow might have risen slightly for a moment in slightly more towards vertical position, as stern stopped pulling it down, and higher parts of the bow might have been still filled with air. So as I think bow at very slightest (almost unnoticed) copied behaviour of the stern. So I would say that double bottom standed no chance indeed. However I don't know if there's way to disprove it or prove it more.

  • @MrChickennugget360

    @MrChickennugget360

    3 ай бұрын

    what's funny is that means the bow was already on the ocean floor before the Stern sank. probably for as much as 8 minutes or more.

  • @Jordizzan
    @Jordizzan9 күн бұрын

    Just found this channel. I’ve been a lifelong titanic guy, got into it when I was in kindergarten. This is really good stuff. I learn new things every video.

  • @calliecat2933
    @calliecat29333 ай бұрын

    in my sleep-deprived, inattentive state I swear I thought you said "so how do we know the Titanic sank?" and I thought...because it's at the bottom of the ocean 😭 definitely not what you said lol. thanks for the video Sam!

  • @a-guy1912

    @a-guy1912

    3 ай бұрын

    Goodness

  • @DrClawandMadCat83
    @DrClawandMadCat832 ай бұрын

    Sam, I think you nailed this! Excellent analysis and research! This all makes perfect sense! ~ Phill from California

  • @mrlionsfan1135
    @mrlionsfan11352 ай бұрын

    I never thought about it at all like this! A lifetime fascination with the Titanic and it finally feels as if the pieces all finally fit together. The engines were basically cement shoes.

  • @moisesrodriguez3685
    @moisesrodriguez36853 ай бұрын

    It's nice learning new things about Titanic. Thanks for teaching us new things Sam.

  • @nautile2
    @nautile23 ай бұрын

    2 videos in one day sam!

  • @Rose19127

    @Rose19127

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes I agree with you!!

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX3 ай бұрын

    Very pleased that you took Wolfric's suggestions and added it into your remastered video! Improved the content by a whole lot.

  • @clairecelestin8437
    @clairecelestin84373 ай бұрын

    I love your content, and this one was especially good. Center of mass directly below the center of buoyancy, like a hot air balloon.

  • @HistoricTravels

    @HistoricTravels

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @mcdemuth
    @mcdemuth3 ай бұрын

    Yes, I think you are completely correct... It was like a Hot Air Balloon. The basket was the engines, and the stern was the balloon slowly deflating. When the weight was more than the lift, the stern finally sank.

  • @AvenMM2
    @AvenMM23 ай бұрын

    Your videos always bright my day!

  • @Maritime_History
    @Maritime_History3 ай бұрын

    Another intriguing video topic. Great work!

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude69063 ай бұрын

    As an engineer I'd like to see these two sections of Titanic's double-bottom raised and conserved in a museum.

  • @mikek4288

    @mikek4288

    3 ай бұрын

    hell yeah, id love to see that piece studied and possibly get some engineering research on the stresses that tiny piece went through

  • @nicholasmaude6906

    @nicholasmaude6906

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mikek4288 I know Harland&Wolf would like to.

  • @jontaedouglas7244

    @jontaedouglas7244

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe would of been possible a few years afterwards, sad that it’d just fall apart if we tried that now

  • @nicholasmaude6906

    @nicholasmaude6906

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jontaedouglas7244 The double-bottom was solidly built, I have no doubt those two sections could be raised it's just matter of how much money it would cost.

  • @Gilbert_The_Magnificent
    @Gilbert_The_Magnificent3 ай бұрын

    Hey Sam! What a interesting video topic! Also two videos in one day? Wow! Christmas came really early!

  • @davidponseigo8811
    @davidponseigo88113 ай бұрын

    Wonderful explanation Sam. Thanks !

  • @tjwarburton
    @tjwarburton3 ай бұрын

    The more I learn about the Titanic the more horrific this story becomes. The other ship sinking that fascinates me is the Edmund Fitzgerald.

  • @charliewatts6895

    @charliewatts6895

    3 ай бұрын

    Would love to see an analysis of what happened to the Fitz. A lot different theories - did it hit a shallow shoal which ultimately precipitated the sinking? Were the hatches unsecured? In the end she almost made it to White Fish Bay and safety. So close but so far.

  • @tjwarburton

    @tjwarburton

    3 ай бұрын

    @@charliewatts6895 It's also interesting that the Fitz split apart in the middle. One minute the Fitz was there and the next second there was nothing.

  • @Loopiar
    @Loopiar3 ай бұрын

    Huzzah! Lusitania and titanic video on the same day!!!

  • @technerdgaming9259
    @technerdgaming92593 ай бұрын

    Good to see you, Sam. Have a question. I don't know if you've covered this, but how long do you think the Titanic would have stayed afloat if the bulkheads weren't lowered?

  • @Truecrimeresearcher224

    @Truecrimeresearcher224

    3 ай бұрын

    It was kinda talked about. The D deck door opened was like a watertight door. Instead of the 2 hours 40 mins it would have been less best guess 40-hour

  • @VsFights101
    @VsFights1013 ай бұрын

    Science! And two videos in a day! 😅

  • @JesusLovesYou-nd1rz
    @JesusLovesYou-nd1rz3 ай бұрын

    Nice to see more content Sam! I've been missing your videos.

  • @bonnieking5493
    @bonnieking54932 ай бұрын

    Well done, young man. You deliver a very interesting and detailed story of this sinking.

  • @chrisdemeule5490
    @chrisdemeule54903 ай бұрын

    Good to see you, Sam! And two videos, what a treat. Interesting as always 😎

  • @BlaisPianoGuitars
    @BlaisPianoGuitarsАй бұрын

    Thanks for the amusing imagination. I've worked a lot of iron in life, it is tough stuff! and doesn't break like ceramic and it was not held together with bubble gum. My take on this is it broke off on the way down maybe 1/2 the way. Hydro forces peeled back the decks -- before completely detaching.

  • @plantbasedhealthy9149
    @plantbasedhealthy91493 ай бұрын

    I thought you said in an older video the stern didn’t sink straight upward but at an angle

  • @TheMalchikjae
    @TheMalchikjae2 ай бұрын

    I love your content. I love how you scientifically describe thing that we think that we know.

  • @atomicenergysociety6038
    @atomicenergysociety60383 ай бұрын

    As Usual...Awesome Video. Thank you!

  • @Rockpirate101
    @Rockpirate1013 ай бұрын

    Love your work Sam! ❤

  • @joshuahurt9242
    @joshuahurt92423 ай бұрын

    That sinking analysis shows that the engine room is flooded after all the break up of your double bottom, and the falling out of the so-called tower sections. The boiler rooms and engine rooms had a delay on flooding. The decks above the boiler rooms and entering rooms flooded quicker. all the boiler rooms went negative before the ship split. The turbine engine shaft run through the last three or more compartments.

  • @geraldwalker7609
    @geraldwalker76093 ай бұрын

    Sam the Science Teacher!

  • @Rose19127

    @Rose19127

    3 ай бұрын

    And History Instructor

  • @asdf9890
    @asdf98902 ай бұрын

    I subbed to your channel a while back but not sure why or when now…now I know. Great presentation! I don’t even really care about the subject, but this was very informative and entertaining.

  • @Smokr
    @Smokr3 ай бұрын

    It was both. The double-bottom was clearly still connected as only that can explain the rotation. Without the bow half pulling unevenly on one side a bit more than the other side, the stern half could not twist or rotate on it's own. Roll onto its side from uneven flooding, yes, but not rotate around it's central-length axis while upraised like that. The double-bottom clinging on for a bit and the massive weight of the engines... ta-dah. Remember the 'can't sink with only four compartments flooded." The entire bow half was now broken open and fully flooded and underwater. More than enough to drag down even the unflooded and water-tight stern half. The stern could have stayed perfectly water-tight, but the front half flooded was more than enough to drag it down entirely unflooded anyway. The stern sitting there upright like a buoy was because of the front half hanging downward like an anchor chain. The two halves were connected on the way down for a time, until they twisted and twisted and twisted as they fell, until it was pulled apart along with so much of the already mangled central sections. The two halves literally ground against each other, grinding the central already mangled area into even more debris. The stern could have been completely watertight. The entirely flooded bow half was more than enough to drag down the unflooded stern. Its is simple physics. If four compartments flooded would sink the ship, then think what the ENTIRE front half of the ship being completely flooded and underwater would do.

  • @HistoricTravels

    @HistoricTravels

    3 ай бұрын

    Only issue with that is the amount of time the stern was on the surface following the break. She floated there only leaning a tiny bit forward for a minute or so before she started sinking rapidly. You would think if the bow was still connected it would of happened much quixker

  • @IloveCruiseShips1912

    @IloveCruiseShips1912

    3 ай бұрын

    There are reports that talked about the stern remaining horizontal for abit before rising such as George Synoms, Edward Buley and John Poingdestre. Titanic's stern pivoted as it sank. If the bow was still connected, it would be facing a different direction. It likely did go nearly vertical but also remaining horizontal before.

  • @Smokr

    @Smokr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@HistoricTravels You'd think. When you read witness accounts and compare them with video footage, you can see how time is distorted differently for different people in different circumstances. The stern could have risen over ten seconds or well over a minute, and every witness would describe it as a different amount of time. And that is witness accounts minutes after an accident in broad daylight by bystanders,. Now imagine the mess when the witness is part of the horror, and it's pitch black at night on the open ocean with no help in sight and your ship is sinking in the pitch black night. There is no wonder witness accounts vary so much and even conflict. Rely on science and physics and predictable behavior and take witness accounts as second- or even third-accounts, espcecially as all the witnesses were heavily traumatized and horrified at the time and then spent hours and hours in the pitch black afraid for their lives, grieving the loss of thousands whose voices were slowly going silent around them.

  • @ErickSoares3

    @ErickSoares3

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Smokr Video footage? We only have simulations of the Titanic sinking, nothing more.

  • @Blandness-j2h

    @Blandness-j2h

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@SmokrWhat video footage???

  • @aaronstreeval3910
    @aaronstreeval3910Ай бұрын

    I remember when sam had like 800 subscribers. 🥹 For your early days I learned so much about the titanic you had a video for every little tiny detail or question regarding the sinking. Although I’m subscribed I’m not a constant viewer anymore but I do drop in to watch your videos from time to time. You have come a long way sam

  • @TheVGBroadCast
    @TheVGBroadCastАй бұрын

    In a survivor interview the survivor claimed that it was "completely perpendicular" wich means it did in fact get to the 90 degree angle

  • @janisbaumrucker3431
    @janisbaumrucker3431Ай бұрын

    You are a great teacher!

  • @elainemoreland3908
    @elainemoreland39082 ай бұрын

    Very impressive and heartbreaking. Thank you Sam.

  • @BonJovi1987Fan
    @BonJovi1987FanСағат бұрын

    The debris field would be larger if it split at the surface but if it fully separated half-way down during its decent that would explain why the artifacts are not scattered so far apart.

  • @TheChadAbides
    @TheChadAbides3 ай бұрын

    This is excellent work

  • @KoolDog570
    @KoolDog5703 ай бұрын

    Sam - there is no way that a 90 ft piece of metal that measures 92 ft wide and it's only 7 ft tall can hold over 20,000 tons of flooded bow. I would have a better chance at the gym of tying a 50 lb weight to my shoelace and see if that can pick the weight up 😊 ...... Titanic broke from the bottom up. Compression smushed the double bottom together (That's why the matching section of plates are bent upwards on each piece)..... This in turn shoved the engines and bulkheads into the decks above which destroyed their structural integrity. This also pushed out cracks which radiated outwards and upwards. When the Titanic stern section was pulled down it was not by the keel plate, rather, It was pulled down by the upper decks. By this point the double bottom collapsed and the number one engine cylinders had no support because they basically were spended over a hole.... Those cylinder snapped right off the engines and fell, along with the boilers out of Boiler Room #1. Titanic is only being held together by its upper decks, which is now subjected to tension- basically they were being stretched longer than what they were designed for.... And when that happens, they're going to rip themselves apart in jagged pieces - aka, the tower sections. A complete top to bottom break would be rather clean in comparison. When the Titanic bowel section finally separated from the stern it was only being held on by B deck.... Once that ripped away, The tower's got ripped out and fell in between the bow and the stern. The stem then sank on its own accord. 😊

  • @Lisa1111

    @Lisa1111

    3 ай бұрын

    You actually had me there 👍🏽

  • @bitcrafter
    @bitcrafterАй бұрын

    I think it's also possible that if any boilers were still attached, like number one, the cold water shock would have created a lot of steam (air), as well as any steam generated from the rapid cooling of the engines that would have been filling the stern section with air, delaying it's descent like a hot air ballon until the water column could push that air out and break that buoyancy.

  • @francesrea5935
    @francesrea5935Ай бұрын

    Very well informed, very interesting

  • @jonfoulkes3160
    @jonfoulkes31603 ай бұрын

    Spot on video boss 👊👊

  • @philiphumphrey1548
    @philiphumphrey15483 ай бұрын

    Not sure that the weight of engines was necessary for the rear half of Titanic to go vertical. The most stable position for a floating ship-shaped hollow object that is nearly full of water is with one of the ends pointing straight up. That's why most ships go stern up or stem up in the last moments before they sink, few sink on an even keel. The rear half of Titanic was longer than it was wide, and as it flooded it still made sense for one of the ends to go up, engines or no engines.

  • @philiphumphrey1548

    @philiphumphrey1548

    3 ай бұрын

    HMS Hood broke in half after a magazine explosion and the bow section of that ship still rose up vertically despite the heavy weight of the forward two gun turrets being in the middle of that half of the ship.

  • @VlajCo-di8lc
    @VlajCo-di8lc3 ай бұрын

    Accurate, precise and cool to watch!

  • @macflod
    @macflod3 ай бұрын

    I missed these videos

  • @coulie27
    @coulie273 ай бұрын

    Incredible, well explained and great vid !

  • @Mekke_Star_Studios
    @Mekke_Star_Studios3 ай бұрын

    Where is your old room where the TV Titanic stuff and so? Where is it?

  • @dan4345
    @dan434526 күн бұрын

    In the "latest" tests it is believed that the stern only rose up about 23 degrees unlike the astronimical near 90 degrees as portrayed in the movies and previous thinking. Neither half of a split in two vessel will remain buoyant as water will find its way in.

  • @Wiltshire-observer
    @Wiltshire-observer3 ай бұрын

    Steel hulled ships are now constructed with ‘expansion’ joints because of shipping accidents involving fractured steel hulls. The hulls ‘twist’ under normal sailing conditions as they ride the sea. I was on a large passenger ship a few years ago and once docked, welders arrived to weld up a crack in the top deck even though the expansion joint was doing its job !. I don’t think the Titanic was built with expansion joints at that time, so the hull itself would need regular repair despite its riveted construction. The rivets were also very brittle due to the poor metal used and the cooling of the rivets once hammered into place. In modern day terms, Titanic was fragile compared to today’s modern shipping.

  • @dishsoap1

    @dishsoap1

    3 ай бұрын

    Titanic had two expansion joints. The technology was in its infancy. It broke at the rear one. Nobody really talks about those any more. But the shadow divers investigated them on their dives to the Britannic. They realized that the Britannic’s were redesigned from the Titanic.

  • @shaunisaacs2994
    @shaunisaacs29943 ай бұрын

    Very insightful Sam . You have good instinct for what the community hasn't already heard. Also I didn't know Bernard Hill was Theodan

  • @davinp
    @davinp3 ай бұрын

    It is disputed if Titanic actually stood straight in the air as shown in James Cameron's movie

  • @mergimvllasa7577

    @mergimvllasa7577

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think we just take it as we go. In 1997, the accepted theory was basically the ship rising to 45 degrees before breaking up and then going vertical. Then it was the Titanic rising to only 23 degrees before breaking up and then listing way over to port, and now its Titanic rising to 23 degrees before breaking up and then going vertical. We don't know what really happened but if new evidence comes that suggests Titanic did not go vertical then that would probably be the new accepted theory. But for now I guess people are going off eye-witness testimonies and the documentary James Cameron made where he explained the physics and stuff. Ironically, a lot of these theories stem from him.

  • @OBrasilo

    @OBrasilo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mergimvllasa7577 It would not be. We even have Joughin suggest the ship did not go vertical but the vertical angle stubbornly remains accepted purely because of the 1997 movie.

  • @mergimvllasa7577

    @mergimvllasa7577

    3 ай бұрын

    @@OBrasilo True but he was flat out drunk, no? I'm not trying to discredit his testimony but many said the ship did go vertical. Of course it didn't go as high as in the 97 movie. At most it probably went up like 40-60 meters or so, not half the ship like in the 97 movie. James Cameron didn't create the vertical theory purely for dramatic effect, he went off testimony and any evidence the wreck left behind, he only dramatised it in the movie.

  • @EllieMaes-Grandad

    @EllieMaes-Grandad

    3 ай бұрын

    From some angles of view, directly in front or at rear, it could appear vertical [on a dark night] and from the side, think of a number from one to ninety . . .

  • @grantmctaggart9942
    @grantmctaggart99423 ай бұрын

    Nothing to do with the video but I’ve been watching your videos for years and just wanted to say you have the coolest bloody accent.

  • @kevinpoole6122
    @kevinpoole61222 ай бұрын

    I remember the day the news came through of the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald, long before Gordon Lightfoot. I’d already been fascinated by Titanic (they didn’t diagnose things like Asperger’s back then). I LOVE your channel-thank you so very much!

  • @arielfeblowitz6879
    @arielfeblowitz6879Ай бұрын

    FINALLY, glad this is being talked about, this is one of those things I think James Camerons theory is super wrong about

  • @spencerderosier6649
    @spencerderosier66492 ай бұрын

    Great channel man keep it up

  • @Grantthetruthteller
    @GrantthetruthtellerАй бұрын

    I understand that the engines both broke just behind the first cylinder. Those first cylinders are not with stern anylonger. This would mean that the bases, the jacket ingredients and the crankshaft had to break. That would require some astronomical forces to achieve. The first part of the engines may have been on the double bottom piece you referred to but are not there now. What could have happened to separate those items from the double bottom chunk you discussed.

  • @bradleybeauchamp5582
    @bradleybeauchamp55822 ай бұрын

    Historic Travels Your missing a very big structural component of the Olympic Class Ships that surely effected how the Titanic broke apart and sank and that is the double and in some places triple plated strength decks. Between C Deck and D Deck there was an extra layer of steel plating to help strengthen the ships for the super structure that made up the 4 decks above the Hull. When Titanic started to break apart the double bottom would have been the first to give way buckling upwards. After that the upper decks would have started to pull apart, leaving arguably the strongest part of the ship in the middle still hanging on mostly still attached. You can observe the wreck at the rear end of the Bow section how loose and pulled apart from the frames the steel hull plating is. Based off of that and how clean of a break there is on the double bottom on both the Bow, Stern, and the double bottom pieces that were found further out in the debris field shows that likely the last part of the ship to give way and separate was the strength decks between D and C Deck. This was more than likely what held Titanic together long enough to pull the stern vertical. The main consensus over the years has been that Titanic fully broke apart at the surface, but from cataloging every single piece of debris found on the ocean bottom, the size of the overall debris field and proximity of the pieces with there original locations within the ship is apparently painting a different picture. If in fact that is the case and Titanic didn't fully break apart at the surface the pulled apart, over hanging hull steel plating, and the collapsed pushed down upper area of the rear of the Bow Section could have been caused by the Stern flailing about still buoyant being pulled down by the Bow. It could also explain why the Stern is so badly destroyed with just about all of the steel plated hull being separated from the frames and hanging off the sides. Also based off of how badly the Stern section had imploded could suggest that it did not have time to fill with enough water before it was pulled down two or three hundred foot for implosions to begin. Something to think about for sure.

  • @AMINKINGDT
    @AMINKINGDT3 ай бұрын

    Bro's working hard 2 videos in one day 😶

  • @IMAMONGUS
    @IMAMONGUS3 ай бұрын

    I just love your content!

  • @camf33
    @camf332 ай бұрын

    I have exactly thought of this theory too.. my other crazy theory is that the ship separated when the stern was on its way to the bottom, thus the bow still holds the responsibility of pulling the stern down, and at that moment with both sections submerged and on their way to the bottom is when the third piece gave and we ended up with the double bottom separated. So many what ifs.. in the end we'll never know for sure but for sure we'll know the physical forces at play were devastating as no other maritime disaster has ever seen.

  • @thweepz
    @thweepz2 ай бұрын

    Supposedly the cylinder for the reciprocating engine on the starboard side fell off and this facilitated the list to port

  • @matthewhainer189
    @matthewhainer1893 ай бұрын

    If I had been there, I could have stopped her from sinking

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts3 ай бұрын

    So the theory that the greater damage to her stern was from the bow pulling the stern under before it could slowly fill with water, causing more and greater cavitation, is wrong? Weren't there also heavy machines in the bow? How come the damage is not the same?

  • @thomasstambaugh5181
    @thomasstambaugh51812 ай бұрын

    I suspect that a quick diagram explaining "center of buoyancy" and "center of mass" might have clarified your description. I appears to me that after the bow and stern sections separated, the center of buoyancy of the stern moved well aft of the center of mass (because the reciprocating engines aggregated so much mass towards the very bow of the stern section). The center of mass pulled down, the center of buoyancy pushed up, and the resulting torque rotated the stern section so that the center of mass was directly beneath the center of buoyancy. The incoming water then caused the stern section to sink as described in the video. I appreciate the effort and time invested in this interesting video.

  • @Bryzerse
    @Bryzerse3 ай бұрын

    I've never really considered this before, but I suppose it's a lot like if you try to hold something very buoyant, like a pool noodle, under the water. The part pulling upwards is actually remarkable stable.

  • @fitzcaraldozito
    @fitzcaraldozito21 күн бұрын

    Could you make another video to give more details about the implosion?.. For example, How deep this happened? Could there have been some people still alive in the stern after going under water?.. After the main implosion, could have been some mini air pockets remaining in the stern (same in the bow), as in safes or empty locked bottles etc.. I know that some little flasks of perfume had survived the sinking and were lifted up from the wreck in the nineties, indicating there were still mini bubbles of 1912 air into them (!) I find this fascinating

  • @douglasnieblas74
    @douglasnieblas743 ай бұрын

    Also the forward high pressure cylinders broke away from the stern section on the way down. The wreck only contains the low pressure cylinders still seated at the forward end of the stern section. This may have played a part in causing the stern to rotate on its way to the bottom.

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV4442 ай бұрын

    Hello Sam 😀 I just read this following story about the 'Titanic Cat': "Jenny the cat was the Titanic's mascot, brought on board to help fight rodents. She lived in the ship's galley and was cared for by a laborer named Jim Mulholland. During the sea trials, Jenny gave birth to kittens and Jim found them a comfortable place next to the ship's galley. Caring for the mother cat and her kittens broke up the monotony of Jim's work preparing the Titanic for sailing. Jenny seemed content with her warm place near the boilers, her babies, and the kitchen scraps that Jim brought her. However, as soon as the ship docked in Southampton, England, just before it began its maiden voyage (to New York), Jenny took a good look at her surroundings and quickly began grabbing her kittens by the necks and carrying them out. One by one, down the gangway she led them out of the ship. Jim watched her carefully and realized that this cat must know something that no one else does. He then quickly gathered his few belongings and left the ship as well... Years later, Irish Road published Jenny's story after a journalist spoke to a very old man - Jim, who told the story. He survived thanks to the cat and her kittens who warned him." Have you heard this story before, and is it authentic?

  • @opieshomeshop

    @opieshomeshop

    2 ай бұрын

    Because clearly cats have 120 IQs and can see into the future......

  • @mightyV444

    @mightyV444

    2 ай бұрын

    @@opieshomeshop - Well, Ancient Egypt had worshipped cats, so there may well be more to them than meets the eye! 😄

  • @opieshomeshop

    @opieshomeshop

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mightyV444 Many nations worshipped cats. Ancient Assyrians as well. Biblical Israel. U.S. England and Germany in modern times.

  • @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming
    @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming3 ай бұрын

    You forgot to crucial and key moment in the break up. When the double bottom bent upwards Just before the break up, everything at Ground Zero, meaning everything under the two sections of double bottom that got ripped off, we’re shoved upwards into the decks above, and this includes the two low pressure cylinders of the engines. When the bottom of the ship split open, least two cylinders broke off of the main section of engine and fell out of the ship along with coal bunkers and the entire contents of boiler room one.

  • @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming

    @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Correction: only the forward starboard low pressure cylinder slid out, which accounted for the port list and rotation (as many survivors said “she described a semicircle” in their testamony) before the stern finally sunk. It is not known when the forward port cylinder fell out of the wreck. Possibly happened when the stern imploded.

  • @kavinskysmith4094
    @kavinskysmith40943 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised you didnt think of that earlier with the engines as it makes sense, the rest of the ship is just basic steel, the point where the engines were would be reinforced just to take the strain of the weight, and would be the fulcrum that broke the ships back

  • @Echo4Sierra4160
    @Echo4Sierra41603 ай бұрын

    A couple years after James Camerons movie came out they found out the Titanics structure could only stay together up until the stern raised about 20 degrees and it wouldn't crash down because not all the parts would fail at the same time.

  • @a-guy1912
    @a-guy19123 ай бұрын

    Hey, I recently found out frog m oceanliner designs that apparently before titanic even sank, a lady was walking down the grand staircase when she slipped and broke her arm, and then went to titanic's hospital, which I didn't even know existed for some reason

  • @the_rover1

    @the_rover1

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe some kind of infirmary? A room to treat passengers that suffer from sea sickness, injury or any kind of inflammation/infect that ought not spread through the ship.

  • @a-guy1912

    @a-guy1912

    3 ай бұрын

    @@the_rover1 makes sense

  • @henrynevins
    @henrynevinsАй бұрын

    Sam, have you ever considered becoming a naval architect or marine engineer? There are several good schools on the New York City area such as Webb Institute, tuition free. There's also the US Merchant Marine Academy where tuition is free. The professional organization graduates from these schools join is SNAME Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers of which I am a member. It was my interest and love of Titanic, plus ship travel on many great liners, most now gone, when I was young that lead to my career. My first ship travel was a transatlantic crossing aboard the SS United States when I was 12 yrs old. She still exists, docked in Philadelphia. The SSUS built in 1952 is still the fastest ship in the world, so technologically advanced in hull design, fire proof and power, that her design is taught today at the US Naval Academy as the ideal standard to strive for, built better than any new ship constructed today. I enjoy your thorough analysis of Titanic. BTW, oddly enough I married a girl from Belfast, Northern Ireland who's grandfather and his brother both worked on Titanic during her construction, taking my love of Titanic to a whole new level...LOL I once spoke with Peter Gimbel backstage after a private screening, prior to the TV airing of his film diving to the Andrea Doria and bringing up the ship's safe. This was prior to the discovery of Titanic and I wondered what Titanic's condition might be on the bottom, compared to the Andrea Doria. I theorized that both ships would move through the water to the bottom at about 18 to 20 kts then impact the bottom. One question was "were Andrea Doria's boilers still in place or had broke loose?" He said they were still attached and in place. My final question, "was the Doria's bow damaged in any way from when it made contact with the bottom?" He looked at me very surprised and said "How did you know, I never said anything about it, yes the bow is crumpled and bent." My point was, that one day, even now, someone will discover the front stem and bow of Titanic beneath bottom is likely crumpled inward. Her bow is deeply buried up to the anchors, hitting with enough force that the hydraulic action of the completely filled bow blew the forward deck hatch off, landing several feet ahead of the bow section on the bottom . Best, J. Scott Johnkins, NA

  • @andrewmcleod9312
    @andrewmcleod93122 ай бұрын

    The double bottom (keel) broke first, there's a section of it on the ocean floor. Looks almost like it was guillotined. Makes sense when you think about it. All that weight bearing down on the keel (bottom) of the ship.

  • @Jmurky1234
    @Jmurky12343 ай бұрын

    Ohhhh exciting!

  • @samfromportadown
    @samfromportadown3 ай бұрын

    The sinking of the stern section was helped along by the fact that the watertight doors in the bulkheads towards the aft of the ship had been opened by the crew during the sinking to facilitate moving hoses and other sorts of things back and forth. It's also likely that the breakup caused deformation of the sides of the hull to extend backwards beyond the reciprocating engine room, at least to the turbine room, and much like the iceberg damage this would have enabled those compartments to begin flooding from the sides. If the ship had broken perfectly cleanly, as if cut by a giant laser, and if the watertight doors in the stern remained closed, it might have stayed afloat. But as it was, it was doomed.

  • @dougbackman7788
    @dougbackman77883 ай бұрын

    Let's not forget the breakup begun right underneath the front set of low pressure cylinders. This pushed them up and rearward severing them from the rest of the engine.

  • @drawingyters
    @drawingyters3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting I love your videos Sam

  • @nathanbond8165
    @nathanbond81652 ай бұрын

    Makes a lot of sense in fact the stern section was so stable in the water many survivors reported that that for a moment or two they thought that the stern was going to stay on the surface and save people's lives because it seemed like it wasn't going to sink and it was stable but then it ultimately just slid to the water

  • @owengifkins995
    @owengifkins9952 ай бұрын

    Petition for Sam and Rachel to watch a historic travels video together 👇

  • @clairefunnell8481
    @clairefunnell84813 ай бұрын

    Makes sense to me. Engines are the heaviest things on the ship. Sad to see Titanic sink again but it's history. Love it Sam.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @danifreeland5158
    @danifreeland51583 ай бұрын

    Fascinating...

  • @johnrobinson5156
    @johnrobinson51563 ай бұрын

    Physics wins again!

  • @davetomlinson9063
    @davetomlinson90633 ай бұрын

    One hundred and twelve years ago and people are still fascinated by all the what if’s,all died that night let them rest easy.

  • @speedbirdoneone
    @speedbirdoneone2 ай бұрын

    The stern did not go vertical. Survivors were split on whether she broke up. Some experts in insisted she was intact on the ocean floor right up to the day she was found.

  • @reneedailey1696

    @reneedailey1696

    Ай бұрын

    Those experts are wrong, as we're the survivors who said she didn't break up. It bears remembering that those who said she did not, were at bad angles, trying to see in total darkness- those who knew the ship split were close enough to gauge what was happening.

  • @taras3702
    @taras37022 ай бұрын

    The breakup almost certainly began when the keel jackknifed and bent upwards, breaking the bedplates for the reciprocating engines. Where the two chunks of the keel came together there is clear evidence of this. While this was happening, cracks were spreading in the decks above, focusing on the uptake for boiler rooms one and two, which led to Titanic splitting in two. When the bow detached, the severed forward low-pressure cylinders tumbled out immediately after the forward tower fell into the water. The tattered double bottom could well has been the last structure to fail.

  • @AudiA8L3.0TDI
    @AudiA8L3.0TDI2 ай бұрын

    thanks for making amazing videos! If you could decide to raise one of the ocean liners (speaking that they didnt fall apart) which one would you raise? And if we did, do you think we could restore it, or mabye build a accurate replica of it? If you read this thanks, i love your videos :D

  • @normangiven6436
    @normangiven64362 ай бұрын

    Debris field analysis confirms the breakup occurred about 2/3's of the way to the bottom. the field is too small to have broken up on the surface.

  • @patrickhavice4541
    @patrickhavice45412 ай бұрын

    Im glad that you and THaG are able to work together to make such videos, but I still think youre missing the the mark on the brakeup. The with the ship at a high angle, the bottom would've been under compressive forces, which is shown by the "S-folding" of the metal sheets on those double bottom pieces. When the ship broke, the double bottom gave in to the compressive forces and was bent up into the engine room, and all the way up into the galley. It was the strength plating on B deck that held the ship briefly together before bending apart, creating those famous gaps in the expansion joints of the superstructure. The brakeup isnt a clean cut but a compressive bend that ejected entire chunks of the ship and completely crushed some of it. I wish that THaG and channels like this would employ engineering knowledge and techniques with these topics instead of tearing the ship like paper. It gives the wrong impression of the actual events from that night.

  • @Spmstudios2122
    @Spmstudios21223 ай бұрын

    2 historic travels videos In a day? (even if the other was a compilation)

  • @Rose19127

    @Rose19127

    3 ай бұрын

    Science and history all in one day!!

  • @Spmstudios2122

    @Spmstudios2122

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Rose19127 yep

  • @idk-cb8di

    @idk-cb8di

    3 ай бұрын

    This was also posted on the day the Lusitania sunk (May 7th)