Disney is reactive and doesn't want to pay until they have to. They didn't want announce Galaxy's Edge until they saw how much Wizarding World was beating them. Hoping Epic Universe is a big hit and Disney has to finally do something

@wyldeslash2003

Жыл бұрын

The Apple technique. Makes sense!

@xCaLLMeGHeTTo

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Disney has to do much to Disneyland in regards to Epic Universe as its on the opposite coast. There's not much crossover like there was with Universal Hollywood.

@wyldeslash2003

Жыл бұрын

@@xCaLLMeGHeTTo you’re not thinking fourth dimensionally!!!!

@xCaLLMeGHeTTo

Жыл бұрын

@@wyldeslash2003 You're right. I'm thinking FIFTH!!!!

@Foxy02016

Жыл бұрын

All the blue sky ideas this year are the only things that could compete with Epic Universe, opening Tron will do nothing to help, but I bet that Tron is their plan to compete

I would be 100% OK with an announcement that they weren't building anything new but that they were committed to fixing everything that's broken and reinvesting in the parks as they currently exist. If they don't feel they're in a financial position to spend money on that, then I certainly neither expect nor want them to spend it on new stuff they're just not going to maintain.

@haleyg6273

Жыл бұрын

This.

Of all their blue sky concepts, I actually liked the idea of the villains land the best. It's not tied to a specific IP, which makes it more enduring, and might be a fun extension of Fantasyland.

@mattmiller9809

Жыл бұрын

An expansion of Frontierland could work if you do dark style Fantasyrides for Encanto and Coco rides. This could work if blended well together. To be fair I dont think it would work or it should go into MK. Rather Epcot should be its home.

@carterd5364

Жыл бұрын

@@mattmiller9809 Or it should have no home at all since it’s a shitty idea

@droojohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@carterd5364 yikes

@TBustah

Жыл бұрын

It would need an amphitheater for character shows, with one particular villain at its center. You take an escalator deep underground. Not super deep, but deeper than a typical escalator would take you. As you travel down it, you notice that it’s getting hotter. There’s also red and orange light flickering on the walls, and you smell something strange… brimstone. At the bottom of the escalator, you find a large amphitheater lit by torches. The seating is made of what looks like bones. Faint screams can be heard in the distance, and there’s a desk and some couches on the stage. After everyone has taken their seats, the house lights dim, and a voice somewhere says, “Live, from the Underworld, it’s the Agony Ever After Show; with your host… HADES! It would be a talk show where Hades interviews all of the Disney villains who bit the dust at the end of their films and were sent to his domain. He would mock and torture them by making them relive their defeats and demise, and ask them what they were up to now… which is always some sort of fitting torture for their misdeeds. Maleficent has to use a spinning wheel to turn rose bushes into rope that is then used to flog her. Clayton is wrapped up in vines and played with like a yo-yo by a giant gorilla, while other gorillas with guns take pot shots at him. A teppanyaki chef chops up Ursula to cook her like calamari while telling her he’ll stop if she just asks him to, but she can’t because her voice has been taken away. The Evil Queen is force-fed apples by demonic versions of the seven dwarves until her stomach bursts. Dr. Facilier is repeatedly poked with giant needles like a voodoo doll by the evil spirits he used to control (that one is practically canon). To encourage repeat visits, it could be a different random trio of guests every time. After Hades is finished with the third guest, they gang up on him and point out that he was defeated by Hercules and sent to the Underworld too, which causes him to lose his cool and cast them into the pit of souls in a fiery finale.

@TheZachDub

Жыл бұрын

@@TBustah jesus bro you put a lot of time into thinking about that lmfaooo

The "what if" possible lands segment was very frustrating. What do you mean, "what if?" This is coming from the mouths of the people in charge. You have the power to do these things, why are you asking "what if?" Are your plans really that lackluster you have to tease projects that will actually never see the light of day? Tell us you're worried about Epic Universe without saying it. Not to mention, over half of the projects announced at the 2019 D23 have been CANCELLED. If you can't even deliver a spaceship earth update, don't even toy with the possibility of land expansion. It's taken 4 years to build Tron and the Splash Mountain reskin won't be complete until 2024. We're really talking about the possibility of adding themed lands? When we see them? 2054?

@karebear3152

Жыл бұрын

Again, I think these are to create a protective barrier against what happened with last time's event of projects like updated Spaceship Earth, the Play Pavillion, Reflections, etc etc etc that they're like "we're doing it!" then they suddenly just poof. so they're using the "blue sky/what if" as a barrier so that it's never "we never said this would actually happen, we just said these are ideas we've come up with that are being considered" so that when they don't, or get changed, the guests wont' throw as big of a fit.

@sarag816

Жыл бұрын

Disney right now I think is running on the idea that they will still get everyone no matter what which is true so they are like well we will get the money regardless of what we do so we can start doing less and charge people more and make the rides a little bit lackluster which is very frustrating because we know they have so much potential they aren't using.

@mobius273

Жыл бұрын

Its so people can't hold them to anything they say

@1810jeff

Жыл бұрын

The reality is that they realize that almost every Disney location is based in a country with a tanking economy. So they're trying to give their shareholders and customers something to keep them from pulling their money all while giving themselves plausible deniability when they have to scale down the projects due to recreational spending going down.

@briansieve

Жыл бұрын

It shows that they've known all this time what guests want, but they refuse to invest in it.

"What if" is actually code word for, "This is what we wanna do, but Bob Chapek is too cheap to ever let it happen." I highly doubt we will ever get a Tomorrowland overhaul, as long as Chapek is in charge.

That parks panel looks really cringe. Your observations of the language used ("what if, what could, thought starter, etc.") is spot on.

@lutherheggs451

Жыл бұрын

Its common sense......Helen Keller could figure out that a parks panel would talk ALOT about what if scenarios, some people just seem to have this delusionally difficult time grasping that the amount of money that a company has, does NOT translate into the amount of money a company has to spend....EVERYTHING is budgeted, intelligent companies ran by intelligent people absolutely ALWAYS want their R&D constantly coming up with ideas for what if scenarios....One would have to be hugely delusional to not get that.

@chompythebeast

Жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 What is this leather-licking apologia you're so fervently spitting in these comments? Nobody cares about Disney's finances, its corporate empire that doesn't deserve to exist in its current form. If that's the excuse for Disney's miserable handling of the parks then that's a problem, not a thing to be praised or excused

"What's behind Big Thunder Mountain?" The parade warehouse. Yep.

Imagine if Universal built a Peoplemover style attraction (beyond Dr Suess) at Epic Universe after all of this Disney mess lately 🤣

@AppleGaming4Real

Жыл бұрын

Would be weird since its just across the street from the more beloved attracton

@lifeasmyselflikepanam

Жыл бұрын

I like watching your mini golf video a lot.

@TameraJacobs

Жыл бұрын

if USH did that, watch Disneyland bust their humps to get the People Mover back.

@lutherheggs451

Жыл бұрын

they already have a peoplemover at universal....Its called the backlot tram tour....Its been there for decades.

@warriorseamonkey1693

Жыл бұрын

Yoshi

Since they talked about Zootopia replacing Dinoland USA, the high-speed-chase ride sounds a LOT like a Dinosaur! retheme 😭

@Caleb-zt5ht

Жыл бұрын

That would be sad. Unfortunately you're probably right.

@cocc_goblin

Жыл бұрын

don't you dare bring that bad juju on us like that

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

Barf, too many rethemes. Nothing original.

@Luannita12

Жыл бұрын

I’m sad that it’s gonna happen anyway, because the ride vehicle model picture looks EXACTLY like Dinosaur’s seating ride (but with 1 extra lane) at DAK

@ashtonbyrd3686

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the thought of Dinoland and the dinosaur ride being replaced just makes me sad.

A word about the Villans land: considering that obscene amount of Disney Villans merch (t-shirts, backpacks & crossbody bags, jewelry, make-up, etc.) They better bring the Villans' land to fruition.

@ninabeena83

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. We should be celebrating at the very least a five year anniversary on said land/park if they had moved the last time I heard it was being kicked around as a blue sky. And that was pre Diagon Alley, which I was sure would be a kick towards it Alas 😞

@phillyguy199

Жыл бұрын

It's not going to happen. Ultimately every religious group in the US is going to tell Disney that celebrating villains aka evil is not a good idea or family oriented. This concept is D.O.A.

@tulinfirenze1990

Жыл бұрын

@@phillyguy199 LOL - one of my VERY first comments on a Disney site in 2000 was pretty much THIS, word for word. I remember I got jumped on and bashed. Twenty two years later and MY, how things have changed with the massive swing towards Right Wing Christian Fundamentalism.

@hamtarotimefan

Жыл бұрын

............ they dont make good villains anymore. its just gonna be the good old ones. which is not bad. but why not make new great villains. like real scumbags again. Bob Chepeck can be the icon of the land

@mattmiller9809

Жыл бұрын

@@hamtarotimefan I think some villains have been good recently. Take the villain from Coco. He works well at OBB at DCA. Mother Gothel is a great villain in her movie. I'm not trying to say that there hasn't been a decline in good villains but theres been some good ones in the last decade. Moana's crab villain guy is pretty good in his number. Dr. Facilier. Toy Story 3. Davy Jones. Wreck it Ralph's King Candy. Like I said, a decline in good villains but some of these are pretty iconic.

I was rooting for you, mr offhand. So sorry for your loss

@FernandoDale

Жыл бұрын

Kkk

Why didn’t they put Coco in Adventureland where they already have that Mexican looking architecture across from Pirates?

@brothkins

Жыл бұрын

never though Id see you here mr ak man

@thefuriousfatty2297

Жыл бұрын

Bx that would be a good idea

This just in: PeopleMover coming to Universal's Epic Universe!

@weeyenawyong2430

Жыл бұрын

For real 😮?

@Disneylander

Жыл бұрын

@@weeyenawyong2430 lol, no, but it would be funny

@BanazirGalpsi1968

Жыл бұрын

@@Disneylander I know it's a joke, but who knows? There have been spoofs of Disney in universal projects. Universal has i.p. drive, all they have to do is drop it in say a minions movie as a spoof, and then they can do knock off in a universal park. They can even hire bob gurr or people of his recommendation to build it. Such a burn that would be.....

@skatealex1

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully Epic Universe can live up to the hype. Maybe it can put Disney a bit more on their toes as a theme park company.

@iilikeitlikethatii

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a real people moveR from epic universe to Universal/IOA

Real talk, if they’re going to put Encanto in the parks, IMAGINE if they did a themed restaurant a la Be Our Guest. You could dine behind the walls where Bruno lives, in the main hall of the Casita, or in one of the bedrooms, like Isabella’s garden, and have an automated dining experience that emulates the magic of the house. Hell, if they wanna go all out, maybe they could have an attraction like the Swiss family Robinson treehouse where you can explore the casita. I know these are just things they’re hoping to do in the future, but there are so many fun things they can do with the concept!

@mandybultemeier2204

Жыл бұрын

The Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse equivalent at Disneyland (Tarzan's Treehouse) is currently being remodeled. You're not far off cause everyone think it will be Encanto themed :)

@crazyfire9470

Жыл бұрын

Rip Tarzan :(

@KylertheDisneyandUniversalFan

Жыл бұрын

I would like it if the Encanto house was between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland and Bruno’s Tower in Tomorrowland.

I’ve literally been anticipating this video more than the Parks Panel itself

I'm agreeing with those who feel the "blue sky" portion of this years parks panel could become it's own panel. But I also agree it was incredibly misleading and disheartening to place it in this year's parks panel. The parks panel needs to be the "this is what we are confirming we are doing, and when we are doing it" and create a separate blue sky panel for imagineers to test concepts and ideas in front of extremely loyal patrons.

Im going to make a shirt that says "No. I havent wondered whats behind Big Thunder Mountain.".

I'll. be honest, Dallin, I'm just glad you're all right. When you were radio silence after the Parks panel, I was a little worried.

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

I literally was thinking the exact same after that day 1 video dropped and then nothing for a week.

I really hope they figure out the Tiana's Ride icon situation. I feel like the water tower is supposed have a scene in it or they would've probably made it taller. The top of the mountain could literally be anything else and it would probably look better. Also, I think if they're gonna have a police themed ride in Hong Kong, they might not change it in America.

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't understand why they don't put the water tower at the top.

My husband and I were talking about this last week. The Parks Panels were kind of bland for our "home" park (disneyland). My husband also mentioned that maybe the company doesn't know what to do with the treehouse. I don't know, why start constructing/deconstructing without a plan? It's been a very weird time. Condolences, Dallin!

@phillyguy199

Жыл бұрын

Disney doesn't know what to do with many of their attractions and buildings needing attention -- kind of a paralysis by analysis issue.

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

Disney is now run by committee. Joe Rohde was the last great creative lead for projects like Pandora. When you don't have one leader, with one vision to lead the rest, then you have nothing. It now takes 10 people's input to change a lightbulb. Walt would literally walk through Disneyland, point and say "move that there...take that out....add that" and it would be done.

@animaemusicae

Жыл бұрын

the newest rumor is that its a SEA theme

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

@@happiestplace3754 At times like these, I can't help wondering how different things would be if Jim Henson had lived another ten or twenty years.

Been very disappointed in Disneyland for a long time. They only care about the money. Most people can't afford to go anymore. The cost for a family to go is just too much. I love Disnyland living here in California. I just can't pay the ridiculous amount to go on my favorite rides anymore.

@DubsBrown

Жыл бұрын

Preach. I miss the early California Adventure years when tickets were $75. You could have the whole park to yourself on a rainy day. Now I’m more excited about Universal Nintendoland even when they removed the back to the future Ride which was my favorite.

In 1982 I rode the People Mover first thing at 8AM and the lights inside Space Mountain were on for maintenance. I'll never forget that sight...

These are my major takeaways: -The Peoplemover is never getting fixed at DL unless they close Tomorrowland and do a full rehaul, which they won’t do as they typically piecemeal those type of changes. -They don’t plan on doing any of the Blue Sky concepts. They only showed them for cheap applause. It is too late on Encanto, and Villains needs a much bigger area. - Disney is countering Epic Universe very poorly and are going to feel the effects in a big way. They likely announce several big things in the aftermath, potentially even a Villains park, but it will be way too late with the slow speed that Disney moves in constructing large projects.

@jalapeno1119

Жыл бұрын

If they really wanted to fix the People Mover, the perfect time would've been right after Star Wars Land opened.

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when I first heard the rumors about retheming the treehouse to Encanto, my very first thought was, "Only if they can do it quickly enough." Then again, I said the same thing about Pandora, and it turned out to be a hit.

@Schwanda.1

Жыл бұрын

@@jalapeno1119 while we all love the People Mover, I can’t really blame them for not fixing it. It’s difficult for a company to want to sink money into something that won’t bring people to the park. It’s a cult classic, but it doesn’t move the needle with the average guest.

@chompythebeast

Жыл бұрын

@@Schwanda.1 And people still try to maintain that catering to what "sells" will naturally produce the highest quality product for the consumer. What a bald-faced lie that capitalists have to tell themselves, or more importantly, to their consumer dupes

Even though my expectations were already low for the parks panel (I wasn’t expecting a fifth gate or a reimagined Tomorrowland with a newly built Peoplemover), I was still disappointed with the parks panel. I’ve dropped the MCU and Disney Star Wars has been hit or miss for me, so the parks panel was really the only thing I was looking forward to. I think this panel was proof for me that at this point, the Disney Parks are cheapening out and are creatively bankrupt. At least the Haunted Mansion fan in me will finally get the Hatbox Ghost over here in Florida and Happily Ever After will be back too. That I can get excited for! For the next 100 years of the Disney Parks? I don’t think so… At least Bleach Thousand Year Blood War wasn’t shown at the expo, so that gives me hope Disney didn’t acquire the streaming rights to the anime :)

@NinthShinigami

Жыл бұрын

To elaborate on my comment, instead of giving us a reimagined Journey into Imagination, something people have begged for for years, they just give us a Figment meet and greet. Cool for Figment fans, but what about Journey fans? Instead of updating or trying to make an effort to repair, refurbish, or reinvent older lands and attractions, they’re just replacing them with IP that have no real thematic sense being there and are only fueled by temporary success (I’m looking at you Zootopia, Moana, Coco, and Encanto). And Coco and Encanto in Magic Kingdom? Seriously? When you have EPCOT? I’m not Team IPCOT, but come on Disney, THAT’S a brain dead move. The idea that it’s even being talked about is concerning to me, let alone actually executing the idea. Only the villains area sounds like it could work and even compliment the Magic Kingdom. Each of those Blue Sky projects were some sort of response to Epic Universe, but I’m thinking they’re each a bluff. They’re just setting themselves up for more disappointment from fans. I know we just went through a pandemic and it screwed up everything, but when your rival right down the street can build new original rides in a short time, is rapidly building their next gate, and even expanding, experimenting, and innovating across their international parks post-pandemic… to me, something’s up. Not to mention that these last few years have actually been some of their most profitable. Even attractions mentioned in the last D23 weren’t given any updates. Maybe they’re not dead, but they couldn’t even give us an update on them (except for that Avengers ride). Sorry Josh, but I can’t really look forward to the next 100 years if this is where the Disney Parks are headed. I do wanna clarify this is just the way I feel about it. Not everyone feels this way, and I’m more than sure lots of you are excited for what’s coming. This is simply my two cents as a Disney Parks fan.

@NinthShinigami

Жыл бұрын

As for the rest of the expo, it seemed pretty disappointing too. I can’t speak on Marvel cause like I said I don’t watch the MCU anymore, but Lucasfilm was meh for me besides Mando S3 and Tales of Jedi. I am however cautiously optimistic for Indy 5. Disney and Pixar didn’t interest me much, although I do wanna watch Disenchanted and another Inside Out sounds neat. I’m also cautiously optimistic for Percy Jackson. I could care less for the live actions. Thankfully, Disney didn’t mention Bleach Thousand Year Blood War, so hopefully this means they don’t have the streaming rights to the anime, although it wouldn’t be the absolute WORST thing, but still a really bad thing (that new trailer was absolutely gorgeous too).

@BAM5636

Жыл бұрын

@Ninth Shinigami Happy about Figment but I was definitely hoping for a refurbishment of journey for sure. Would have rather they done that to be honest. Also bring back Dreamfinder!!!

@BAM5636

Жыл бұрын

@Ninth Shinigami Also oddly optimistic about Indy 5. I am not sure why exactly but it feels like it might be a solid close and Indy needs a solid close out to Indy. That was a neat presentation.

@NinthShinigami

Жыл бұрын

@@BAM5636 fr, even some younger EPCOT fans (such as myself 🤪) wanna see Journey in its original glory!

The lack of peoplemover news was truly disturbing.

@TargetSniper365

Жыл бұрын

@Native KZreadr bro have you seen Disneyland Tomorrowland?!?! At least you guys have a solid peoplemover and tron

@robertclark8546

Жыл бұрын

@@TargetSniper365 Disneyland's Abandonland

@phillyguy199

Жыл бұрын

It shows Disney doesn't really know what to do with Tomorrowland in Disneyland. There is one group I'm sure that sees the entire concept as a money pit because of the changing notion of "tomorrow." The other group can dream and imagine but the entire land is so defunct that it would need a good $800 million to $1 Billion to resuscitate it.

@SoarinToTower

Жыл бұрын

@Native KZreadr I think the fact that the only Disney World news was some blue-sky concepts shows that they don't really know what to do- or at least, they don't want to do much if they don't have to

@SoarinToTower

Жыл бұрын

@@TargetSniper365 Although that is true, the Peoplemover is still working in Disney World, and Tron... well, they tell me it's coming eventually

We should pressure Pixar or some animators to put a People Mover into an upcoming film. Once it's in a movie, they'd have to bring it back.

It felt more like a hype pitch you'd give to shareholders, like they're trying to leverage the fans' excitement to fund these projects. My main complaint was that if we're going to just do blue sky anyway, then why not talk about tomorrowland? Are they really not even thinking about it?

I think my favorite part of the not-great Hulk character is that, for some INSANE reason, they had Mark Ruffalo pre-record that awkward “I was watching the panel and wanted to say hi” moment that they aired literal seconds before the character walked out and you can hear just how much it doesn’t sound like Mark Ruffalo 😅

Something small that kinda bothered me was when they were talking about Tiana's Bayou Adventure, they were talking about how immersed and familiar they were getting with New Orleans...and then proceeded to mispronounce the city every time. Just made what they were saying about the research they were doing on the city seem really disingenuous.

@nathanlong5374

Жыл бұрын

For those wondering, it's pronounced "New Orlins" not "New OrlEEns."

@phillyguy199

Жыл бұрын

Meh, no one really knows how to pronounce it. I've even heard it New Or-lee ON with the "ON" sounding like AH-N.

@nathanlong5374

Жыл бұрын

@@phillyguy199 There is a correct way to pronounce it. Just because non locals say it wrong doesnt mean theres more than one correct pronounciation. But the point is that if you are saying how much research you're doing and how much respect you have for the culture, you should pronounce the city's name correctly. The easiest way to show respect is to pronounce someone's (or in this case a place's) name correctly.

@emmaycheyt

Жыл бұрын

There are a few different correct ways to pronounce the name of the Crescent City. If you’re from there and talking to other natives, it’s “N’awlins.” If you’re talking to other people, it’s “New OR-lee-uns.” It is NEVER NEVER NEVER “New Or-LEENS,” and that Imagineer who pronounced it that way should be transferred to designs for the Black Cauldron kiddie ride.

"We were all so excited." Not me. I recognize and know how awful Disney and the Parks have been under Chapek.

@twilightsky1580

Жыл бұрын

This!

@lutherheggs451

Жыл бұрын

Weird since Chapek was the head of the parks before he became the CEO....Oh wait who actually needs to know things like facts, when you can just fart out stupidity about Chapek endlessly..

@poletooke4691

Жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 Chapek wasn't fully in charge at that point. I dont consider that to be the Parks under Chapek since there was a check to Chapek's awful decisions whereas now there isn't.

@Courier_333

Жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 yes and Chapek ruined galaxy's edge by cutting the budget. Àctual cast members at the parks hate the man, you don't know anything

@Brand0n3500Official

Жыл бұрын

pin this.

I really liked the people mover. When you weren't sure what you wanted to do next, or just needed a break it was a great ride to collect your thoughts on or just people watch. It would mean so much to alot of folks to have this ride come back. It's really the only thing I wanted.

@Pantheragem

Жыл бұрын

There's not really any rides like that now. The train I guess. It was also a great reason to use the Skyway when you just wanted a leisurely ride.

This shall be the start of your villain arch

@tulinfirenze1990

Жыл бұрын

Arc

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

the snow shovel for dirt in the intro... 🤣

My sincere condolences. The people mover was a great mover of people RIP

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

It did what it said on the label. You can't say that for everything these days.

As someone who’s home Mansion is WDW’s, I was absolutely thrilled to hear the Hatbox Ghost is materializing in WDW. I can’t wait to see him in action

@rebeccaheuer3255

Жыл бұрын

Coming Soon in 2036! 😂😂

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

Epic Universe: "Oh how cute, you added ONE animatronic. Have you seen our ENTIRE new theme park we built?"

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

I know, right? It's extra special because he's never been East before.

As a WDW Frontierland cast member, I had a mini heart attack when they said “new frontiers” followed by a picture of Big Thunder Mountain. Don’t scare me like that!

My opinion is they should have announced going all out on parks updates. Universal is currently building an entire new gate that is going to bring in a ton of competition and Disney can afford to do some minor updates at the least.

I'm sorry for everyone who was excited about this D23 😔. Keep the dream alive though

@happiestplace3754

Жыл бұрын

I held the faith, but I was forsaken.

2:39 * about bringing back happily ever after* Josh: “You know what?” Someone in the crowd, who speaks for all of our hopes and dreams: “SAY IT”

I heavily suspect the Tokyo changes are gonna be cut back drastically because japan is going through a very serious currency devaluation which historically destroys recreational spending which means less people spending money at theme parks.

@tulinfirenze1990

Жыл бұрын

Japan has been in recession for DECADES and still the parks are SWAMPED there. For many years, Tokyo Disneyland was the most visited park in the world until the MK took that title a few years back. I believe, like many other people that the WDC actually massages the numbers to make their flagship park at their flagship resort appear as the most visited because they couldn't stand the "disgrace" of that title going to a park not even owned by themselves.

@1810jeff

Жыл бұрын

@@tulinfirenze1990 A recession and heading for hyperinflation are two different things, it's the combination of the two that change things. People always seem to forget what happens during times of high inflation.

@EspenSGX

Жыл бұрын

Have you met the OLC?

@ttintagel

Жыл бұрын

I hope not! The rest of the world is looking to them for innovation, even if they're not yet prepared to spend what it takes to do the same.

Heh, this whole PeopleMover thing reminds me of all the WandaVision speculation: people drew /so/ many conclusions based on casting, curtains, whatever--a thousand Easter eggs that they swore Meant Something, even though Marvel had given no indication. It seems a lot of the big companies love the mad fan speculation, but increasingly they're having to deal with the backlash when those guesses don't pan out. And while it's true, the fans do it to themselves, the companies know what's going on,and could short circuit the frenzy with a single Tweet most times ("No, WV isn't bringing mutants back." "No, the PeopleMover isn't being announced at D23--or ever." etc). Because by not doing that, they're training fans to do what you're now doing: not hyping yourself up over what might be, and just waiting to hear from Disney about what they're absolutely promising to do (unless they don't again :p).

@lutherheggs451

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They could care less about "fan speculation".....They don't care that people hype themselves up for things that they have never even mentioned in passing....They don't care, its people talking about the thing they want them to talk about...They love that "special" people were hilariously stupidly reading into Wandavision, they wouldn't come out and say if they were right or wrong about anything because they're talking about it, which means they're watching it....Its their entire goal...

You knew he would milk this, for everything he could. Maybe now Mr. Chapek will see the seriousness of this situation, and have tremendous sympathy and sorrow, for Dallin, give in and bring the PeopleMover back. But, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

@chrismcdowell7138

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Just read that an interviewer ‘accidentally’ referred to Bob Chapek, as Bob Paycheck. Not into name calling, but this has to be a great example of a Freudian slip. Wonder if it will catch on, if it hasn’t already.

I hope one day Disney will consider a Halloween town area w/nightmare before Christmas, Halloweentown and hocus pocus areas...

@TheZachDub

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That would be awesome!

@ttintagel

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Just a Nightmare Before Christmas attraction would be enough for me! I've been banging on about it for decades now. It seems like such a no-brainer. You could have all the holiday lands inside it so it wouldn't feel irrelevant at any given time of the year.

@wintergirl_93

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@@ttintagel YES!!!!!

Fans: Bring back the PeopleMover! Chapek: Okay, say that again, and take out anything not IP-related. Fans: … Chapek: That’s what I thought.

The way Hulk's arms move make him look like an animatronic lol

@JasonRasmussen

Жыл бұрын

Animatronics move better.

There’s only one man, one man who can save us all. And that man’s name. Is Jean Lafitte

The thing about Disney parks is, everything that's been going on there lately and especially the Genie+/Lightning Lane business just makes me less likely to want to even visit them... with the possible exception of the Tokyo resort if I ever manage to get over there (Japan's kind of hard to get into these days). I guess I wasn't expecting much. What I see is leadership that's singularly unwilling to follow through on any of the airy promises they made years ago, and instead focused on throwing out more airy promises, while they continue to make the actual experience of visiting the parks more and more unpleasant. There's actually a lot of cool stuff at Disney World already that wasn't there the last time I went, and I'd love to experience it--except I'm not sure I want to experience *Disney* right now. And there are so many other things to see in the world, including other cool theme parks.

@Mchannnel

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Yeah. My home park (Tokyo) slowly became the most affordable one over the years…however, they just started to charge fastpass (about 14USD/ride) which is a HUGE bummer😅 We also have Universal Studios in Osaka, and that park is much more attractive for many due to Harry Potter and Nintendo post COVID. (And I heard Disney’s ticket is way more restricted than Universal’s) Japan has finally started to loosen up entry restrictions so I hope you could visit Tokyo Disney Resort soon!!!

@MattMcIrvin

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@@Mchannnel Of course, what's different about Tokyo is that it's the one where Disney is not holding the purse strings.

@Mchannnel

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@@MattMcIrvin Yeah…Oriental Land Company still spares no expense compared to Disney which is cool

@ttintagel

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Yeah, even though I still enjoy reading about them and watching videos about them online, I've pretty much made peace with the fact that it's unlikely I'll ever go to a Disney park again.

HAHA I just finished telling the kids about this and then the email with your PAIN thumbnail came up.

Disney is dead to me after all these live action remakes Kathleen Kennedy still in a Job and those Magic Bands tracking devices... Now the Peoplemover not coming back!

Anyone else wonder why he was using a snow shovel in dirt?

Tarzan's is probably going to be nothing but an expensive Fantasmic viewing area

I knew Bob (Cheap peak / PayCheck) is cutting corners for Disney, hopefully no disaster is coming up as a result of him cutting corners.

Honestly this year's D23 Expo didn't really announce anything interesting to me... movie wise and parks wise. I really REALLY hope Disney pays more attention to the parks soon. Sorry for your loss tho

This is by far one of the best videos about the Disney theme parks. You are one of the strongest voices in regards to the dreaming all of the park attendees are guilty of and created a video that perfectly captured the magic of our visions and hopes and the disappointment felt when we feel let down. Your videos have been a beacon to me and my family, a motivator for our voices to be shared with other Disney fans, and the ground that allows us to recognize that Disney is still ultimately the source of the dreaming in the first place. Thank you for responsibly dreaming and sharing your thoughts with us fearlessly and creatively.

Disney: “Hey, you know that thing you want?……Nah.” 😑

Honestly, I think it is very safe to say that we are in the darkest age that Disney Parks has ever experienced. Not from a financial perspective, which is all they care about, but the Disney experience for the guest is worse now than I think it's ever been, especially in California. And I guess they're not even squeamish about 100% of everything needing to be from an IP from the last two decades at the oldest. The parks are absolutely hemorrhaging their timelessness

“Here lies Dallin’s hopes and dreams, R.I.P.”

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

Took 5 years for just the Tron ride. We will never see Villains Land in our lifetime (the original concept was proposed back in the 80’s, so we’re already 35 years out).

This whole D23 has been a mess! I was hoping the people mover would come back to Disneyland with a new updated Tomorrowland on both coast but NOTHING!!! Everything has been horrible, I don’t wanna get started on the announcements

@phillyguy199

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I know, right? They don't need to "Blue Sky" Magic Kingdom, when they have a perfectly derelict land to re-imagine in Anaheim.

Dallin, so good to see you back, I honestly was going to send you a DM on Instagram, just to see if you were ok since you went dark after day 1 of D23. I'm glad to hear others felt the same, and even other channels have been sending you shout outs and condolences in their D23 wrap up videos. You should take it as a compliment that so many people know who you are, and respect your work and what you say. This D23 was a major disappoint to everyone, and I'm glad you didn't hold back on your rants, unlike some vloggers, who are still drinking the Kool-Aid (for fear from Disney) and saying "everything was great! Look at all these new lands that we ARE DEFINITLY getting!" Sad days my friend, sad days.

Snow shovel in dirt. The metaphor is too deep. You’re an artist.

There is no one steering the ship--they are just taking their direction from a bunch of corporate surveys.

Remember: it’s the HOPE that kills you! As someone who loves Emperors New Groove, soaring over California, and OG California Adventure, I’m used to being ignored by the imagineers.

Seems that western disney parks always gets the short end of the stick. Compared to many overseas disney parks that have a whole buffet of new rides and lands to look forward to. Very disappointed, but not surprised.

the idea of a villains themed land FINALLY happening really excites me. I WANT A VILLAINS LAND, DANG IT!

I was shocked and upset when the Peoplemover was shut down many years ago now. Tomorrowlands magic was having the movement of the Peoplemover, along with all the other attractions. That movement gave Tomorrow land that futuristic busy look, that it has completely lost since it was shut down! I think Disney seriously needs to reconsider the Peoplemover, and reactivate it, if only to bring back the critical movement it adds to Tomorrowland, and if only for nostalgia's sake, bring it back! 🐭

I think a lot of fans - especially those in the room - misinterpreted what Josh said. Happily Ever After, the show, is not coming back. Rather the song is going to be incorporated into a fireworks show next year (could even just be a tag to the current show). The applause and cheers were so loud that people couldn’t hear the rest of Josh’s statement.

People Mover coming back in the year 2052!!! I'll actually have arthritis by then so I'll legitimately need it🤣

I'd like to point out that he said that the Happily Ever After ANTHEM will return, not necessarily the show. From my personal resources, they've said "A Brand New Updated Show featuring the Happily Ever After Anthem"...so basically we have no idea. It could be the exact same show it could be a completely different show. They worded it in such a way that they could put on any show involving the song, and hold up to what he just announced at the panel.

My favorite part of going to the park panel was trying to decipher all the announcements. I felt like a member of S.E.A. trying to translate his language on the spot such as the Paradise Pier redesign is actually code that the cheapest hotel at disneyland is going to get a price increase or that no concrete plan for Dinoland means it there won't be a new land due to budget cuts and is actually going to be where they store all of those giant kites. But my condolences for the people mover, I too had my dreams crushed when there was no mention of a new American or French friend being added to the Duffy lineup at either the Parks or Duffy panel.

I just don’t get the near fetishization the People Mover has been getting. It was a boring ride that the train does a better job of offering the same “relaxing” appeal without the need to get off at a particular time. Give us new dark rides or a coaster. Don’t bother spending funds for the park on the People Mover of all things.

It just feels like Disney isn't giving the original park the focus it deserves. I understand space is limited, but surely they can give us SOMETHING, right?

I’ll never forgive them for that Figment bait either. That was mean. A meet and greet is great and all, but we’ve had two Figment meet and greets in the past.

Somedays I feel like people like y'all care more about the parks than Disney does

Dude, I scream with joy when I heard they're FINALLY Bring the Hatbox Ghost to the Florida Haunted Mansion. :D My prayers have been answered!

I don’t love how everything in the parks has to be IP related. The best Disney rides are the original ones, and now we don’t get that at all anymore.

Overjoyed to think that Happily Ever After will return. Sad to think that Disney now has another chance to ruin it with the new, Chapek-approved "less for more" philosophy.

I’m glad we, the fans, are talking about this panel, specifically because of Happily Ever After coming back. It’s not only an exciting announcement, but it’s something fans were begging for that very few of us thought would happen. So they’re listening, Which means we should speak up about what we want to see.

Hey!! Love your videos and RIP People Mover 🙏 Sooo random question: Where do you buy your shirts? My fiancé and I were watching this video and he really liked all the button up shirts you're wearing.

Their motto was if we don't get cheers just say "this is for you our biggest fans!". You'll get them every time.

To speak of dying dreams…I’ve always hoped they’ll bring back the full Figment ride. They’ve got the finances to do it in a way they did not when the ride relied upon sponsors. When they were talking about the Figment stuff I was absolutely on the edge of my seat hoping they’d finally do it. But no. Talk about murdered dreams-if they won’t do it while revamping Figment’s image, they never will.

On the bright side, at least there’s still a people mover you can ride. It’s just over here on the East Coast in Florida

My condolences 🙏 I am mainly excited for the idea of Villains having their own land ❤️

@happiestplace3754

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Don't get too excited...

@alliekuma4234

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@@happiestplace3754 Nope, just excited for the idea even if it doesn't happen. I'd honestly be surprised if it did but it's still cool to imagine.

Immediately after the panel ended, I knew you would not disappoint with this video. Worth the wait. My condolences on your loss. It does hurt. 🙏

You forgot to mention the Hatbox ghost coming to Disney World! Very excited about that

You know what they also didn’t talk about, the “third gate” at Disneyland. The concept art had something that looked like a Frozen ride.. all somewhere at the end of Downtown Disney. They never mentioned the entrance refurb of Tomorrowland which was super fuzzy anyway other than the 60s retro look with blue and green plants. I kind of wish they would get rid of Pixie Hallow. It’s never opened anyway.

Very well-said. You would think that after so long without the expo, this one would be way more enthralling than it actually was. Perhaps somewhere in the near future we’ll get some sort of announcement for literally any part of DL’s Tomorrowland being remodeled, but until then it’s a disappointing time to be a diehard parks fan. We’re getting another cruise ship, but no major announcements regarding the parks?? I completely feel your frustration.

I know it's probably not going to stay that way, but a transition from Encanto to villains though a big patch of spiky vines would kind of fit. The Encanto was surrounded by thorns and mountains, and Maleficent's castle was also surrounded by those sorts of things. Don't really think I'd want them to be backed up on each other, but it's at least an option.

The announcement for the People Mover was what I wanted most😭.

Epcot needs a coaster in Japan, updated Snow White dark ride in Germany, Mr. Toad in the UK; and toboggan or flume type ride in Canada.

In my mind the reason all the stuff at Disney World is blue sky and no dates is because they are waiting to see if when Epic Universe opens at Universal will it affect their attendance and their hotel reservations. If it does, I can guarantee you they will announce that they are starting construction on that area beyond Big Thunder. They are choosing to be reactive instead of proactive. That way they do not have to spend the money if they don’t need to and can continue making bigger profits by increasing the prices on everything. The thing they are not thinking about though is if it does affect them they may get so far behind Universal it’s gonna be very difficult to bring those people back. You know how long it takes Disney to build anything. If they don’t start construction on items until they see their attendance being affected it’ll take at least 3 to 4 years before it’s finished being built. By the time they would open that section beyond big thunder for guests I can almost guarantee you they’ll already have a new land added and built and opened at Epic Universe.

@phillyguy199

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If I ever make it to Orlando, it's Universal first, Disney second. Not out of spite or anything -- I just want to see the Potter parks first.

Offhand Disney! Thank you for the news, you have people moved us throughout these years 😅

When I realized the people mover announcement wasn’t gonna happen, I immediately thought of you. Keep your head up!

a soul-crushing notification to receive.

I am very sorry that at Disneyland in Anaheim, CA, part of Tomorrowland, we are not bringing back the New Peoplemover. But when Tomorrowland is refurbished, in the above ground platform, they can still remove all the old / unused Peoplemover & Rocket Rod tracks as well as removing the old & unused Rocket Rod satellite from the top pylon to pave the way for a Heathrow Pod Tout with windows and air conditioners without motorized tracks.

They may surprise us one day and the *PeopleMover* might just spring up out of nowhere. We are sill wondering about the Twitter video that Bob DeMero posted (I think that's who posted it). So many questions and not enough answers.

I always thought Disneyland was a dry park until you mentioned that Walt had a bar on the Mark Twain. Wild!

How bout Splash Mountain stays and Tiana gets a restaurant. What a massive waste of money and effort. F'n rocket rods too... why lord, why?

@phillyguy199

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Is everyone forgetting the main reason for the reskin is because of the Song of the South relationship?

@phillyguy199

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@@eth39232 Too bad it will never leave the Disney Vault. Ha!

I’m wondering how they’re going to compete with Epic Universe at Universal. I’m more excited about Super Mario land than anything Disney has announced.