The Paradox of

In this clip, John Anderson and Louise Perry discuss how the physical act of sex has been cleaved from its spiritual significance. This view leads to an intellectual paradox that comes to a head in the #MeToo movement, which contains a correct backlash against sexual harrassment in the workplace whilst maintaining sex work is legitimate and unproblematic.
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Louise Perry is a journalist and author based in London, UK. She is a columnist for UnHerd, a featured writer for the Daily Mail, and hosts Maiden Mother Matriarch, a podcast about sexual politics.
Louise is the author of the landmark book, 'The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century,' published by Polity."
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  • @NGC-gu6dz
    @NGC-gu6dz10 ай бұрын

    Schrodinger's modern woman: powerful and independent without need of protection and inevitable and perpetual victim and in need of protection.

  • @manusha1349

    @manusha1349

    10 ай бұрын

    Most women don't believe the liberal rhetoric. Just like we don't believe masculinity is toxic

  • @StimParavane

    @StimParavane

    10 ай бұрын

    Whenever it suits them.

  • @newtonia-uo4889

    @newtonia-uo4889

    9 ай бұрын

    yet where were the women when the men were trying their hardest to defend the social institutions of the family and manifestation of the duties and obligations innate in the masculine and feminine archetype? People are realizing that men have stopped being men but nothign will get fixed until people realized that men stopped being men because women stopped being women.@@manusha1349

  • @Bombadil-ez9ns

    @Bombadil-ez9ns

    9 ай бұрын

    I heard a fascinating comparison. They have moved into 'fainting couch feminism'. Safe spaces are the 21st century equivalent of the Victorian era fainting couches.

  • @billburr5881

    @billburr5881

    9 ай бұрын

    She gets to choose - empowered heroine or poor victim - which ever state is best for her at the time!

  • @dnaphysics
    @dnaphysics10 ай бұрын

    Feminism is about making rules that match women's feelings. If you do something that makes her feel bad it's illegal

  • @parrotshootist3004

    @parrotshootist3004

    10 ай бұрын

    'makes her feel', man says that 'no one makes you feel bad' *your doing that to yourself by yourself*

  • @Bennie32831

    @Bennie32831

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@parrotshootist3004true

  • @newtonia-uo4889

    @newtonia-uo4889

    9 ай бұрын

    feminism is the utter surrender of femininity and womanhood for the pursuit of also destroying masculinity.

  • @TheKCaryer

    @TheKCaryer

    9 ай бұрын

    Dnaphysics, well said, sums it up. Feminist want the "natural" authority of a man, the "natural" privilege of women, and the accountability of a child.

  • @marlanoronha4065

    @marlanoronha4065

    9 ай бұрын

    Feminism turned out to become opportunism. It's a shame because some women really need help.

  • @kevinpeterwareham8131
    @kevinpeterwareham81319 ай бұрын

    the original feminist movement was NOT about liberation it was about rights without responsibility. an example of this is the right to vote BUT not the responsibility to be drafted in war. YOU can see a recent example of this in UKRAINE over recent years the media , government and universities pushing feminism in Ukraine but as soon as the war began "men must join up to fight for Ukraine, oh no poor wimin are struggling to escape ukraine and be looked after in europe!!!!"

  • @Peterdemcsak

    @Peterdemcsak

    9 ай бұрын

    Ukraine is not really part of the Western world, let's say neither is the USA. In Europe, no one would be enlisted, or maybe they would try, but the rebels would burn down any EU country. The original feminism was about liberation. What this extreme Woke Nazi woman represents is sexist and oppressive.

  • @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226

    @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226

    9 ай бұрын

    EXACTLY.

  • @balamohammed5947

    @balamohammed5947

    9 ай бұрын

    yeah no whether they could be drafted or not such things could still affect for example becoming widows and left to take care of their children alone. no longer be able to go back home with no idea or way to move forward.

  • @Malachi_Padilla

    @Malachi_Padilla

    9 ай бұрын

    I never thought of it that way. Thank you for enlightening me.

  • @delftfietser

    @delftfietser

    9 ай бұрын

    Feminist movements exist in all western cultures to varying degrees.The draft does not. There's no absolute connection between the two.

  • @SirShiv7
    @SirShiv79 ай бұрын

    Give them an inch, they take a mile. The reason men were in charge for so long is because we prioritize logic over feelings. The current atmosphere is insanely charged and volatile because women are making the rules now, and there's no rhyme or reason to them once you dig past the *very* thin layer of 'logic' they try to plaster on it. The MeToo movement was a perfect example of this: just don't harass women! they say, then never clarify what that actually entails - so it sounds good on the surface, but underneath it's just a weapon to use against anyone at any time for any reason and is entirely dependent on 'feelings'.

  • @jeromegreene8957

    @jeromegreene8957

    8 ай бұрын

    Legit, that's exactly what it was about! This was about power in the wake of the Trump administration and they were lashing out at all men. It was petty and BS. It was a female form of interpersonal violence(lies, slander, rumors, character assassination, etc.) That was built off of the other sub movements that kept slipping into the mainstream which was listen and believe, times up, etc. It was all designed in order to weaponize female behavior and the worst aspects of them in order to destroy men as a whole so they can takeover. That is why throughout history if there actually was document cases of misogyny being ingrained into a culture, it was for this reason. Because fundamentally when left unchecked, females are evil as he'll and why you shouldn't trust them in certain situations.

  • @solsiminor6247

    @solsiminor6247

    7 ай бұрын

    This is a great explanation.

  • @chaosdream21

    @chaosdream21

    5 ай бұрын

    Men are by far more emotionally volatile than women. That's the reality.

  • @abhid.2679

    @abhid.2679

    4 ай бұрын

    Well said.

  • @SirShiv7

    @SirShiv7

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chaosdream21 Source: trust me, bro. 🙄 Playing devil's advocate and saying that's true, that's not the flex you think it is. If men are more volatile then they control it far, far better than women do which makes them even more guilty, not less.

  • @danieldpa8484
    @danieldpa84849 ай бұрын

    It’s Shrodingers 🏖️ syndrome - you never know if she’s offended by approaching and objectifying her, or if she’s offended if you don’t do.

  • @tshaolin971

    @tshaolin971

    8 ай бұрын

    Let the modern western woman solve this equation herself, just take a passport.

  • @Paigeturner7

    @Paigeturner7

    20 күн бұрын

    You could try asking

  • @danieldpa8484

    @danieldpa8484

    20 күн бұрын

    @@Paigeturner7 if asking would work, the issue wouldn’t exist. Asking is considered harassment if you are an attractive male, otherwise it’s 🍇. Have you been living under a rock last 10 years?

  • @SMHman666
    @SMHman6668 ай бұрын

    Harassment is only harassment when it's an approach or comment by a person she doesn't fancy. Selective offence, basically.

  • @lesterdiamond6190
    @lesterdiamond61909 ай бұрын

    I live in a dangerously cold climate where the road conditions can be life threatening. I wouldn’t even consider helping a woman after the last few years. For my brothers, there’s a big 4x4 with a tow strap/booster cables and probably a thermos of hot coffee on board.

  • @CoasterRanger

    @CoasterRanger

    9 ай бұрын

    She's a strong and independent woman. Don't get in the way of her showing it.

  • @user-lt1jd1ye3v

    @user-lt1jd1ye3v

    9 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry you don’t have chivalry where you live :( Sounds rough.

  • @lesterdiamond6190

    @lesterdiamond6190

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-lt1jd1ye3v I've learned my lesson. Women here are a lot of trouble.

  • @jimdavis8391

    @jimdavis8391

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-lt1jd1ye3vYou're sorry?

  • @gregsmall5939

    @gregsmall5939

    8 ай бұрын

    chivalry died. third wave feminists murdered it@@user-lt1jd1ye3v

  • @jeffreyoneill4082
    @jeffreyoneill408210 ай бұрын

    in the modern workplace it's too risky for men to interact with women to any personal degree. even with another witness, the claim of SA is enough to destroy many mens lives.

  • @steve3131

    @steve3131

    10 ай бұрын

    They also shouldn't help them.

  • @novoca1n3

    @novoca1n3

    10 ай бұрын

    I was told I needed to train a junior female and refused. I stated I was concerned and worried that I was being put in a position where false accusations could ruin my life

  • @Peterdemcsak

    @Peterdemcsak

    9 ай бұрын

    I mean where? A claim without evidence is worthless.

  • @Peterdemcsak

    @Peterdemcsak

    9 ай бұрын

    @@novoca1n3 Accusations are just accusations, if you're not a famous person, accusations can't hurt you. Unless you live in the USA, because the USA is a dictatorship, but accusations are not effective even in the USA.

  • @novoca1n3

    @novoca1n3

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Peterdemcsak Totally incorrect. Accusations by a woman are career destroying and a prison sentence, even if there's no evidence. Woman are believed 100% and it's up to a man to prove he's innocent, something that's near impossible in a society that's hellbent on destroying men

  • @kurtdanielson993
    @kurtdanielson9938 ай бұрын

    Woman at work. Guy she doesn't really like: "You look really nice today". Her: "HR, this guy is harassing me. Making me feel uncomfortable." Guy she likes: "You look really nice today." Her: "Gee, thanks. You look nice too."

  • @1Mutton1
    @1Mutton110 ай бұрын

    Woman got what they asked for, for men to leave them alone. Now they have to live with this.

  • @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226

    @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @haroldb1856

    @haroldb1856

    9 ай бұрын

    Although, of course they will complain about it and blame it on men.

  • @1Mutton1
    @1Mutton110 ай бұрын

    A huge number of relationships have historically started at work. This is killing relationships and families.

  • @sexyhomeowner9345

    @sexyhomeowner9345

    10 ай бұрын

    There are other places to find a wife or husband.

  • @1Mutton1

    @1Mutton1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sexyhomeowner9345 ffs, did I say all?

  • @grapeshot3462

    @grapeshot3462

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sexyhomeowner9345 Not like there used to be. Work was an especially great place to find a partner for introverted people.

  • @1Mutton1

    @1Mutton1

    9 ай бұрын

    @@grapeshot3462 for any people. It is after all where most people spend most of their awake existence.

  • @joaopaulodasilva4899

    @joaopaulodasilva4899

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @Agent77X
    @Agent77X9 ай бұрын

    Feminism has ended up destroying the basic-traditional man-woman romantic interpersonal relationship dynamics! It is now online dating selection for hookups and dating.😮

  • @kevinpeterwareham8131
    @kevinpeterwareham81319 ай бұрын

    100 years of the matriarchy. not long till the collapse.

  • @daffidkane8350

    @daffidkane8350

    Ай бұрын

    100000 years of the patriarchy and man reached the moon. 100 years of the matriarchy and humanity is coming to an end!

  • @jacobwinn2765
    @jacobwinn276510 ай бұрын

    While the original feminist movement was about liberation, it was taken too far, to the point of saying there should be no consequences for decisions made. Many took it to the extreme, whereby they said in defiance of cultural norms women should not, and cannot be held accountable for their actions (believing, falsely, that that is the case for men and thus they should have the same). Now any pushback against female promiscuous behaviour is akin to being misogynistic, when in fact it comes from a deep caring for female wellbeing. Men are now told that women can AND SHOULD behave like the worst men, as opposed to the vast majority of men, and anything less is 'oppression'. And women are told that they can do anything they like without any accountability, but as we know, we all face consequences for our actions, and they get extremely frustrated when those consequences bear out.

  • @margaretcampbell2681

    @margaretcampbell2681

    10 ай бұрын

    I didn’t notice that women are being told they can do anything the like. Men have always been told this

  • @stevec9972

    @stevec9972

    10 ай бұрын

    ​So if you don't notice it makes it not real.

  • @cullenkehoe5184

    @cullenkehoe5184

    10 ай бұрын

    ​​@@margaretcampbell2681This isn't true at all. Women seem to set their eyes on the Donald Trump's of the world though. And those rich players do behave poorly (because all the women throw themselves at them). But those sorts are hardly representative of all men.

  • @doltBmB

    @doltBmB

    9 ай бұрын

    the origin of feminism was oppression of men

  • @Mgtowfreedom

    @Mgtowfreedom

    9 ай бұрын

    Sorry but do your research two of the original leaders of feminism were guilty of bombing government buildings !!!!! (So this popular belief that the original feminism is somehow distorted is utterly delusional) It was NEVER about equality

  • @MrLathor
    @MrLathor8 ай бұрын

    The dichotomy between what feminism says women should want and what they actually want is stark. Society desperately needs women who pushes back and points it out. It’s the only way to get through to some of these brianwashed women and may start to correct this.

  • @simonhadley8829
    @simonhadley882910 ай бұрын

    Bill Burr said it best about me too: "I think we got 'em all."

  • @Jubal.Harshaw
    @Jubal.Harshaw8 ай бұрын

    Ahhh, the 'Hashtag-Me-Too' movement in a brothel. What a concept!

  • @FarmingUnclear
    @FarmingUnclear9 ай бұрын

    The most intelligent conversation on KZread... and then there's us.

  • @floriangunzer6244

    @floriangunzer6244

    8 ай бұрын

    On point

  • @remconoordermeer7015
    @remconoordermeer70159 ай бұрын

    3:23 Uncomfortable question: how true is this? Are people, women in particular, being applauded for pursuing meaningful relationships, or, as she says, “behaving in traditional ways?” Or are they then being shamed for “submitting” to a relationship instead of being “strong and independent?”

  • @animelvr99

    @animelvr99

    8 ай бұрын

    I want to say yes to both. because it always depends on who you ask. By age, generation, race, nationality, etc. People who pursue relationships or want to be traditional are applauded and hated even when it has nothing to do with them. Use of the word 'submitting' is seen something akin to the worst thing a woman can do. Just look at dating (first dates or icks) and what's expected from men and women

  • @Shadowdrag00n

    @Shadowdrag00n

    8 ай бұрын

    @@animelvr99 Well those two words are almost the opposite to each other, what i mean in relationship and independent. You can't be in a team project then go say am going to work by myself. In a team everyone has their assigned roles and unfortunately that has ever been mixed up now a days or people are claiming on role that they're incapable or unwilling to take on. Also like most things words have power and in modern day a lot of words have been weaponized and merged together with other means to say they are the same thing. Because i would say are you not submitting to your workplace, you follow their rules and do what they tell you, but in the context of a relationship "oh it's slavery this isn't the 1950s"🤷‍♂🤷‍♂. The same with when you need to train bad habits out of people, "you being controlling etc etc" but don't you get train at your workplace to preform your role to the best of your abilities?? But to get back to what both of the above are saying, people (mostly women) have been taught to do whatever you want, no one should hold you back and you should reach beyond your means and if anyone says anything then they're just holding you back and being toxic. It's what you see when women say i want someone who makes over 100k and has x, y and z but when you ask them what they bring it's just cricket noises. Now no one is saying don't go for that but you have to work on yourself and earn that prize, it shouldn't be just given to you because you exist and that's the problem with the current wave of feminism, if you exist then you should be showered with reward and praise because of your very presence.

  • @animelvr99

    @animelvr99

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Shadowdrag00n to your first paragraph "opposite to each other, what i mean in relationship and independent". . You can't be in a team project then go say am going to work by myself. In a team everyone has their assigned roles and unfortunately that has ever been mixed up now a days or people are claiming on role that they're incapable or unwilling to take on." you proved the point. while they are opposite but also work in tandem. we have our roles in that relationship but we work independently. its moving towards the same goal. and as you said later working on ourselves for the betterment of the relationship. its always about the context. for answering the OP its always about context. talk to people in the 1950s and women would be applauded for pursuing relationships to marry. and talk to present day theres a community who would shame women for pursuing relationships. Even tho feminism is suppose to be about being able to chose for any gender. even some men will think 'oh I'm rich, have status and do xyz' they should get women bc thats traditional. it doesn't always work that way. they will be applauded by some and other will say its toxic masculinity. it always depend on who you ask

  • @Shadowdrag00n

    @Shadowdrag00n

    8 ай бұрын

    @@animelvr99 No such thing as toxic masculinity just toxic people, a very confused misconception no a days. With the team section i think i might have not explained it enough as you missed my point. But what i was trying to say like a team project, it's one team but everyone is has their own roles and can work independently...but to the same goal. So for example if we are doing a project on ancient Rome, everyone would go find information on a set topic independently but would all come back to the end goal of it all coming together to give a wide spread history on ancient Rome. Now if same project but when everyone comes back someone has comeback with history on the early days of the American wild west, now that has nothing to do with the end goal and you've just gone and done your own thing. Does that make a bit more sense now?

  • @animelvr99

    @animelvr99

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Shadowdrag00n okay toxic people. that applies better. I agree with that. I get the team project metaphor. they work independent going towards the same goal for Rome and not America Wild West. no one would award the latter since the project is for Rome. same with relationships with varied goals. its very binary. either you got it right or wrong. that makes sense. it circles back to the OP question. which is less binary. because it depends on the relationship and their goals for it. bc everyone has their own goal for their 'team project' relationship. both partners need to agree on their roles, the goals and the relationship changes and is an ongoing project. so if the goal/role for your relationship is different from mine, its not about being applauded or shamed. its about if it works for you or not is what I'm getting at. if you desire a,b,c in your relationship and your partner does to, its great. If you want a,b,c and your partner wants x,y,z its most likely not going to work. even if you guys are both great people independently. and I can agree the wants in a relationship can be misplaced. like your example of woman wanting 100k man and xyz but not having that in her life. she should be working towards what she wants. she shouldn't just be given that from the get go. the sad part is that men and women are judged/vauled differently even when we want that equality. we see enough content that men are wanted for what they provide. And women valued for being traditional which can mean a lot. it sucks for both. bc what we want as individuals doesn't always align with society. to be clear: im not working for you to agree with me or vice versa. its just a different POV with valid points. bc there is no one right answer. its usually subjective.

  • @autoclearanceuk7191
    @autoclearanceuk71919 ай бұрын

    Nearly all the long term couples I know met at their workplace.

  • @supremereader7614
    @supremereader76149 ай бұрын

    "Don't tell me to smile... but if you wanna hire a professional, that's totally cool."

  • @vaelicusthepaladin
    @vaelicusthepaladin9 ай бұрын

    Louise perry is brilliant

  • @TheInverseable
    @TheInverseable9 ай бұрын

    Femism freed me from being a social pariah for choosing to be single despite being quite well off so i have to thank yea.

  • @237domingo

    @237domingo

    9 ай бұрын

    how do you think infertile women was treated in ancient times?? they were abandon in the forest?? It's so sad that a lot of women don't even now their own tradition, only the feminist version therefore they really think that every they have they have it because of feminism! You are not a social pariah because you have friends and or family. having friends depends of you social skill. if you tell me that you find all your friends within feminism then you have a serious problem: a true friends is someone with whom you could drastically disagree and still be able to enjoy the company. And for the family part, Ii don't see haw feminism will help you maintain a family. feminism tend to destroyunnecessary

  • @alexanderthegreatoz5945

    @alexanderthegreatoz5945

    9 ай бұрын

    Feminism inevitably unshackled men, and simultaneously sent women on a one way trip to get lost in the wilderness.

  • @gkrebs6636
    @gkrebs663610 ай бұрын

    This was excellent!

  • @Femmeaesthetic
    @Femmeaesthetic9 ай бұрын

    I think she makes a fair point how this movement has gone backwards and it's so upside down, apparently harassment in workplace is outrageous but we have to accept women working in a industry that involves exploitation to sell s#x.

  • @barbararadzeviciusbondi4150
    @barbararadzeviciusbondi415010 ай бұрын

    Excellent explaination

  • @johngriffin2133
    @johngriffin21339 ай бұрын

    Great Commentary

  • @anthonyscully2998
    @anthonyscully299810 ай бұрын

    im only critical of people who engage in intercourse out side of marriage if they dont take contraceptives

  • @Alteringrealitystudios
    @Alteringrealitystudios8 ай бұрын

    Anyting to gain a special status that that allows one ro step on everyone else. Even those more capable and qualified.

  • @Radiatron18
    @Radiatron188 ай бұрын

    She has such a brilliant mind she’s captivating

  • @Ag3nt0fCha0s
    @Ag3nt0fCha0s8 ай бұрын

    This made me think about the female colleagues that have pursued me over the years

  • @devingarrett5800
    @devingarrett58009 ай бұрын

    No it's more to do with Hegalian dialectic rejection of logic and reason that is fundamental to leftist doctrines.

  • @jps0117
    @jps011710 ай бұрын

    Louise Perry makes some valid points, but many conservatives would look askance at reversing a "revolution" that occurred half a century ago -- as if we even could. Such (now historical) revolutions can only be managed. Women are different from each other, and not all of them fit Perry's description. I think the best we can do is take her valid points and manage our own lives better, if need be -- but we can't manage the lives of hundreds of millions of people. That would hardly be a conservative project.

  • @91722854

    @91722854

    9 ай бұрын

    that's coz the conservatives (some of them) are rather extreme, they have black or white mindset and can't even contemplate grey areas when their very existence is already inside the grey zone, which pushes them to either end of the extremes and making conversations and thoughtful and productive arguments really difficult

  • @ZipMapp

    @ZipMapp

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@91722854This can be said even more strongly about democrats

  • @mylesleggette7520

    @mylesleggette7520

    9 ай бұрын

    @@91722854 I like how you typed all of that out, then realized you were showing that you are exactly what you accuse conservatives of being, so you added in that weak parenthetical at the beginning. As usual, liberals are all about projection.

  • @nobledarkmoon

    @nobledarkmoon

    9 ай бұрын

    No matriarchy has ever grown a society. They have either died out, or at best remained stable at a low level. The population decline either gets nipped in the bud soon or things will become more polarized and draconian down the track. When you have the full weight of the law that can be used against you. If you flirt or help someone that law can be used against you if expectations are not met or they feel slighted. This is a tremendous power imbalance, the risk is to high and the reward is not worth the risk. Why would a guy want to put himself into a position of legal liability?

  • @scartissuefilms

    @scartissuefilms

    8 ай бұрын

    Conservatives are going to have to step up, and step up HARD at some point...because leftism is not just destroying society, it's driving the species extinct. It's getting to the point where it no longer matters what the left thinks, it's a matter of survival.

  • @professionalhermit4592
    @professionalhermit459210 ай бұрын

    Sounds like she describes the consequences of an internal contradiction which tends to nullify a philosophical as sound or valid.

  • @powerdove

    @powerdove

    10 ай бұрын

    All political philosophies have internal contradictions though, it's one of the sticky things about trying to pin down 'truth' as a concept in relation to human perception

  • @ZipMapp

    @ZipMapp

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@powerdoveNot at all. You can refine the statement to fit reality. Or you can make less ambitious claims to prevent such contradictions. Not all political stances make such wild claims that they end up contradicting themselves

  • @powerdove

    @powerdove

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ZipMapp sounds like you don't know what a political philosophy is

  • @ZipMapp

    @ZipMapp

    9 ай бұрын

    @@powerdove The word you're looking for is ideology

  • @powerdove

    @powerdove

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ZipMapp no, I stand by my original comment.

  • @tips4truckers252
    @tips4truckers2529 ай бұрын

    Interesting

  • @frydguy2331
    @frydguy23318 ай бұрын

    Can we discuss the fact that the name of the symbol used...#... used to be called "POUND"??? Pound me too Yup. Not the best choice for a name... Now it sounds like a complaint that the accused DIDNT "pound me too" and it's about jealousy and "a woman scorned" Now you understand why the older generations laughed at this concept. Women angrily yelling "pound me too"

  • @Rick_Cleland

    @Rick_Cleland

    5 ай бұрын

  • @raymondpaller6475
    @raymondpaller64758 ай бұрын

    Believe all women: & then watch the Amber Heards have huge incentive to game the system. Yeah great idea.

  • @jeromegreene8957

    @jeromegreene8957

    8 ай бұрын

    That was the point.

  • @marklittle8805

    @marklittle8805

    8 ай бұрын

    Amber Heard just destroyed the Metoo movement in one trial

  • @guptayush179
    @guptayush1799 ай бұрын

    Nice shoes, ma'am 0:40

  • @buster-vu7sx
    @buster-vu7sx8 ай бұрын

    PaRaDoX. If you incentivise something, you get more of it. If you punish an action, you get less of it. This isn't rocket science.

  • @herooflight7931
    @herooflight79318 ай бұрын

    The MeToo movement is petty and pathetic and their rule is weak

  • @autoclearanceuk7191
    @autoclearanceuk71919 ай бұрын

    There was no paradox there. Clickbait title.

  • @terrymcfadden954
    @terrymcfadden9543 ай бұрын

    The women I have known are mostly hyper energetic, doing multiple things at once, contradictory, abusive at home in emotional or financial or physical ways, manipulative, don’t obey the laws to a T but destroy those who make mistakes. Since women have joined the law and government, what we see are people who are cruelly and usually punished, mugshots and mistakes haunt us for years, we are considered “dangerous” for nonviolent offenses, no such thing as rehabilitation. They gossip and spread barbs. They make oppressive and intrusive laws. Our police have now turned against us. Lawyers and judges have to take their “feelings” into account.

  • @margaretcampbell2681
    @margaretcampbell268110 ай бұрын

    Is she blaming women for this?

  • @gabez8

    @gabez8

    10 ай бұрын

    Chivalry is dead and women killed it!

  • @margaretcampbell2681

    @margaretcampbell2681

    10 ай бұрын

    @@gabez8 I agree

  • @heidiharpur8294

    @heidiharpur8294

    9 ай бұрын

    what should women have done to be given equal rights such as voting? Should they have rights to be on boards, go to university etc or, is their only role to procreate? @@gabez8

  • @healthymindhappierlife5089

    @healthymindhappierlife5089

    9 ай бұрын

    Observing something honestly and stating fact is not placing blame. If you feel she is blaming women thats a you thing. Don't self victimize.

  • @haroldb1856

    @haroldb1856

    9 ай бұрын

    Don't blame the victim!

  • @commonwunder
    @commonwunder9 ай бұрын

    It's a pity that the population of the West are so impressed with novelty. It is their defining characteristic. The largest casualty of this obsession... is tradition. Tradition is viewed as stodgy and staid, the antithesis of shiny, sparkly newness. Whereas all other cultures consider 'tradition' as a hard fought battle, won to stabilise their society. In the West it is considered a tool of oppression. Without tradition, a population is led into the frivolity of decadence. A meaningless society devoid of any innate significance. To a point where nothing makes sense anymore, seems rational or trustworthy. Humans need meaning, they need a sense of continuation with the past. Anxiety and distrust are a constant... in a society where boundaries are in constant flux. Since the US won WWII, western society generally and America specifically, has felt no slow down in its unprecedented growth. No nation state has had all of its society's 'resource needs' within its own borders before. It cemented the US as invincible... an untouchable power base. From which to influence the entire world. With so much abundance, its society has become deeply decadent. Decadence coupled with a lust for novelty... destroys hard fought for roles, attitudes and beliefs. The amount of change in the West 'since the end of WWII', is almost too vast for cultural critics to form theories on. If this constant change were directional... it might be considered valuable, in and of itself. But the West is driven by Neoliberal Capitalism. To become successfully entrepreneurial is to become a king. It's driven by individual greed, not for the overall betterment of the population, or society as a whole. Society is dragged along behind the wealthy entrepreneurial classes whims. Neoliberal Capitalism leads nowhere. Just a circular continuation of an endless reimagining of consumer products to sell. The West is defined by a fundamental absence of progress for those that live there. Only the pretence of progress... a never-ending supply of new versions of old stuff for individuals to buy. Western Capitalist society cannot improve humanities existence on this planet. For humanity... it is a dead end. The people of the West feel the existential void of its society. Without tradition, without a sense of nationhood or 'the spiritual'. The basic elements, that bind society's together. Which the West has burned in its quest for extreme novelty. The dream of becoming entrepreneurial and climbing the giant Western pyramid sales scheme, is not a human value worth investing your life in. Or for investing the future of humanity on. The West is a dystopian idealists dream. Where the only people awake are the poor.

  • @benjaminchartier6458

    @benjaminchartier6458

    9 ай бұрын

    The discarding of traditions for which provide value have indeed led us to a deep spiritual emptiness, the void left by the discarding of Christianity. Even many evangelical churches are setting aside their biblical values for a sensationalism more appropriate on Jerry Springer than in a pulpit. There is no substitute for genuine,grounded faith for the stabilization of society

  • @jimdavis8391

    @jimdavis8391

    9 ай бұрын

    They killed God. The death of consumerism is near however. It's coming and will be a blessing!

  • @rmartinson19

    @rmartinson19

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree with most of your points about culture, but think you are badly misunderstanding a couple of things about capitalism. First, capitalism HAS in fact improved the human condition considerably and measurably. In fact it has improved human life more than literally any other factor by enabling the spread of technologies and wealth to every corner of the globe. We are living in the most prosperous time in human history entirely because of it and the people who harnessed it for the betterment of the world. The likelihood of death by starvation, thirst, disease and war is lower than it has ever been, and that is because of market capitalism and the people who harnessed it. Access to information and opportunity is greater than it has ever been, and that's because of capitalism and those who harnessed it. It wasn't feudalism or socialism that fixed those problems, nor was it religion or charity. In fact, aside from convincing more moderate political ideologies to pursue certain societal reforms, socialism has never achieved anything but the WORSENING of the human condition and the expansion of totalitarianism. Second, capitalism is not truly an ideology or a system, nor is it opposed to tradition. It doesn't have attitudes toward "newness" and novelty. Those are all cultural issues entirely separate from capitalism. It is not consumerism, nor is it cronyism. At its most basic, capitalism the the ABSENCE of an economic ideology or system. It is what happens when people step back and let others do what they want with their economic lives. It is freedom to make your own choices in the marketplace. In the same way that political freedom allows rapid improvements in a society by virtue of creating a de facto political meritocracy, economic freedom (otherwise known as capitalism) makes the market a meritocracy. Now obviously, just like political freedom, capitalism needs limits and guardrails to keep it from going off the rails into plain self-destructive anarchy, but properly harnessed, freedom is the most powerful tool human civilization has ever used. So of course capitalism "leads nowhere", because the very concept of "leading" is anathema to it. It's not a deity that somehow guides humanity, it's a passive tool that we can choose to use for whatever end we desire. It doesn't lead anywhere, WE do. If someone is stabbed to death, do you blame the knife? Or do you blame the person who misused it? Because your whole spiel about why capitalism sucks is the equivalent of you blaming the knife instead of the wielder, out of some bizarre belief that knives somehow force people to do nasty things with them. Like the knife, Capitalism is nothing but a tool. It does only what its wielders use it to do.

  • @rianmacdonald9454

    @rianmacdonald9454

    8 ай бұрын

    remove indirect refences to religion - and I can agree 100% with you.

  • @commonwunder

    @commonwunder

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rianmacdonald9454 Tradition is an antidote to anxiety. Religion is inextricably linked to tradition. Unfortunately, religion is the most potent placebo, to rid yourself of innate anxiety. It is necessary, albeit vital… to vast swathes of people. It injects itself directly into peoples fear and soothes immediately. Nothing else comes close to it. People will always turn to ‘the cure’ that is religion. It is a chameleon, it may change its colours but it is always with us. Try telling me that the people of the West aren’t fully signed up, members of a quasi-Hellenistic cult. It is a religion, masquerading as a system of governance. Those that consider themselves secular know ‘democracy’ is sacred to them. It’s sacrilege, if ‘anyone or nation’ defiles or debases ‘democracy’ and its tenets. Righteous indignation and fervent screams that the perpetrators are obviously evil. Religion is everywhere… it is how humans cope with anxiety. They build religions.

  • @SirFluffy100
    @SirFluffy1008 ай бұрын

    What! Consent! Its consent, thats the difference. In both work places. Harassment comes from lack of consent.

  • @dannysullivan3951
    @dannysullivan395113 күн бұрын

    Tough to be conservative and intelligent, you've only got belief to fall back on.

  • @thinkharder1645
    @thinkharder164510 ай бұрын

    They wanted it all, but can't handle what they got.... And now, its to let to reverse.

  • @erindeerhart5538
    @erindeerhart55389 ай бұрын

    Even for someone who's highly intelligent, this video seems to have no actual point. What are you both trying to say here?

  • @rianmacdonald9454

    @rianmacdonald9454

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah I struggled to understand any point to this - although picked up on a slight hint of her blaming the loss of religious values'' - almost as if she was having a dig at the growing number of atheists, and like all good religious people tries to shift the blame on to others - as said before she may want to read her bible in that case - as a lot of the protection/laws afforded to women come from a secular view point and would disappear instantly under her traditional religious values. That is something that always makes me laugh with women who claim traditional religious values, you really sure you want to do that, as I will hold you to ever word in that bible.

  • @daffidkane8350
    @daffidkane8350Ай бұрын

    Hedonism and materialism does not work and undermines family and community. The seven deadly sins still make sense and are relevant.

  • @terrymcfadden954
    @terrymcfadden9543 ай бұрын

    When i say women are making intrusive laws, that are violating our rights and nature, I look only to the women I know. They smoke marijuana but men are more severely charged. They speed or disobey traffic laws. They tailgate when driving. They get by with being late, with doing less than work, and although every detail doesn’t fit every woman, there has been a long clear pattern since the 1960s.

  • @Livelarge913
    @Livelarge9139 ай бұрын

    Taking a woman serious in 2003 American is a waste of time.

  • @matthewapsey4869
    @matthewapsey48699 ай бұрын

    Dude speaks so slowly

  • @Rn-pp9et

    @Rn-pp9et

    8 ай бұрын

    So you can listen to him at 1.5x the speed :D

  • @downtoearth1950
    @downtoearth19509 ай бұрын

    religion of all types strictly controlled a womans sexuality, they moved away from that

  • @minha95.h
    @minha95.h10 ай бұрын

    does this lady understand "Consent"?

  • @newtonia-uo4889

    @newtonia-uo4889

    9 ай бұрын

    yes, she knows about it, she also knows that there are many more things that goes on beyond just consent.

  • @aldobonaso3481

    @aldobonaso3481

    9 ай бұрын

    she's clearly talking about the distance between the actions of people, and the ideology that they claim to subscribe to...there's a clear divide. People should act what they preach.

  • @Kidna
    @Kidna8 ай бұрын

    I think her takes are completely wrong.

  • @genovasquez8361
    @genovasquez83619 ай бұрын

    men are no longer approaching women, So now you women have to aggressively chase a man, an have to approach men, May the best woman win. Good Luck

  • @rianmacdonald9454

    @rianmacdonald9454

    8 ай бұрын

    well, lets face it, that won't happen - all that will happen is the vast majority of men will be left alone in PEACE, and then women have no chance, when a man finds out how peaceful and better life is without chasing women. and the few good ladies out there - well they will have the pick of the litter ad be wifed up very quickly.

  • @Messier45_Pleiades
    @Messier45_Pleiades10 ай бұрын

    The sad part about Me/Too is that so many women have been subjected to unwanted touching by men.

  • @philliphickox4023

    @philliphickox4023

    10 ай бұрын

    "Warted" warts are caused by a virus. Unwanted warts can be sexually transmitted, not only by men, but by women as well.

  • @craigmunday3707

    @craigmunday3707

    10 ай бұрын

    It's dishonest to talk about metoo without also recognising the large number of false accusations that have been made by women during that time.

  • @jkbrown5496

    @jkbrown5496

    10 ай бұрын

    But the consequence is that the good men will just stop interacting with women since no one knows what any particular woman considers unwanted/inappropriate and have a strong desire not to inflict on the women. On the other hand, those in power positions will continue with the unwanted contact with just an occasional complaint.

  • @philliphickox4023

    @philliphickox4023

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jkbrown5496 "those in power positions" I think that it an over generalisation and misses one important attribute and that is there is a certain class or group who lack empathy and simply don't care, such as sociopaths and narcissists.

  • @novoca1n3

    @novoca1n3

    10 ай бұрын

    It's only unwanted when the woman decides that the man doing the touching isn't a Chad. If she likes him she'll throw herself at him and flirt like crazy

  • @LordVautier
    @LordVautier8 ай бұрын

    Guys, here is a simple way to address a compliment you wish to make to a lady; "Excuse me, miss, but I feel terribly rude for interrupting you, but I couldn't for the life of me let this moment pass before me eyes without telling you how beautiful you are..." Just practice and expect lots of women to take it no further than "thank you", so politely leave. Others will ask your name. Make yourself interesting to talk about when she asks, but try to make her talk about herself. Be of good grooming. Smell nice. Eat right. Lift heavy things. Watch the news. Respect women enough for their independence. Make thier day one day by having some value, and complimenting them when it could well be the worst day of their life. Stay frosty, and stay healthy 🫡

  • @willek1335

    @willek1335

    7 ай бұрын

    All that works, except this rubs me the wrong way. "I feel terribly rude for interrupting you" If you omit that, because I would be lying, but leaves the other feely stuff preceding it, then I'm ok with it.

  • @LordVautier

    @LordVautier

    7 ай бұрын

    @willek1335 don't feel rude for interrupting someone going about their day then. Up to you 😊

  • @aalliaandreadis5109

    @aalliaandreadis5109

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@LordVautier these boys just need to be taught simple manners

  • @LordVautier

    @LordVautier

    20 күн бұрын

    @@aalliaandreadis5109 I wouldn't disagree

  • @WiseOwl_1408
    @WiseOwl_14089 ай бұрын

    She is aging fast. No wonder shes flipped opinions

  • @bendikkirkbakk1833
    @bendikkirkbakk18339 ай бұрын

    I Know i shouldent. Not nice hurting others. But anybody else?. I Just wan't to take what i Wan't. They be jizzyin and jiggeling.

  • @ChadThundercock69
    @ChadThundercock698 ай бұрын

    Best selling novel during Me Too movement was 50 Shades of Gray. .......Go figure!

  • @TimBitts649
    @TimBitts64910 ай бұрын

    Whaifalthist channel. Bright young man recent video on feminism from a young right wing American male point of view.