The Panther On Steroids
Ойындар
Decal affiliate link: tinyurl.com/42thwzv3
When Update Drone Age was first shown off, one of the first tanks we saw was the German VK 3002 (or VK 30.02), which is a prototype for the infamous Panther medium tank. The production model Panther is often described as a quasi-heavy tank since it was quite heavy and had thick frontal armor. The VK 3002 is more in line with what the Panther would be if it was an actual medium. The VK is almost ten metric tons lighter than the Panther, but trades this for worse armor. The armor still isn't bad by any means, but some things will go through it pretty easily, such as the Sherman Firefly. Most importantly, the VK has a battle rating of 5.0, meaning that it absolutely stomps in downtiers. Germany truly does suffer.
Check the channel "About" section for the link to the creator of my profile picture.
Songs used (in order from first to last):
Command and Conquer: Generals - Various USA Themes
Halo 3: ODST - Rain (Deference for Darkness)
Sound mods:
Epic Thunder (Pre-release)
Gunner HEAT PC Crew Voices Mod (Personal, go play the game: gunnerheatpc.com/ )
Sponsor: apexpartner.app/redirect/spoo...
Second channel: / @spookstoon
Patreon: / spookston
Twitter: / spookston
Reddit: /u/spookston
Discord: See my Patreon page.
Twitch: / spookstonwt
Steam: goo.gl/BYQjC9
#warthunder #tanks #tankhistory
Пікірлер: 683
Decal link: tinyurl.com/42thwzv3
@familyjobe853
Жыл бұрын
Spookston ! You Own me a computer ! You must pay me a computer ! Also next video can you play the non premium Tier 1 medium tank in chinese ? Thank you
@gunmasterx1164
Жыл бұрын
play the Ho-Ri Prototype/Production next please :)
@blugastidiofable9517
Жыл бұрын
yeah I'd peg him
@vap0rw1se
Жыл бұрын
Play the L3 next
@sschuster2180
Жыл бұрын
@Spookston the AI doesn't struggle with the ground, it struggles with your tank. Select something small like the Pz. 2 H and it'll drive right past it but anything larger seems to be "too close" to the road for the AI to speed past.
Everytime spook fires I just kinda expect a “target destroyed.”
Surely germany needs another panther at a low BR.
@jPlanerv2
Жыл бұрын
Surely it wont go lower in br because German mains cant play vehicles that can be pened frontally
@ideadlift20kg83
Жыл бұрын
It currently outperforms the Panther D in KD so it will likely go up in BR. Question is will the Panther D go down or will they move the D up to 5.7 and the rest .5 BRs as well?
@eddyspageddi7128
Жыл бұрын
Yes and a tiger at 3.0 and a panther at 11.3
@adanpiumpium2613
Жыл бұрын
Leopard 2k at br 1.0 hell yeah
@Death_Trooper-177
Жыл бұрын
They need players with IQ over 11
As a Japanese person I would love to see you play Japanese tanks both modern and those from the pacific war.
@MrBlueBurd0451
Жыл бұрын
KANE LIVES!
@GhostHunterdu67
Жыл бұрын
chi-to and chi-ri
@sages9038
Жыл бұрын
Would be funny to see him prank people with the hull mounted 37mm on the Chi-Ri II
@Drake-ul6zx
Жыл бұрын
Type 74 or stb 1, he didn't made any video on these tank
@ijn4438
Жыл бұрын
@@GhostHunterdu67 Man my boy the Chi-To got massacred years back, I would even give up the better APHE for it to go back down.
The shot @ 0:50 might be him using the default ammo, which has 130mm flat pen and 520g of tnt, effectively enough to overpressure your tank so long as it pens or hits the right area. Add a sprinkling of gaigins magic and that's likely how it killed you the way it did.
@jPlanerv2
Жыл бұрын
Yep its the same way i get a lot of kills with jagtiger when i shoot mantlets of some US tanks shell doesn't go inside the tank on killcam but whole crew gets over pressured
@8ballentertainment.885
Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between it and the researchable one? I never really looked before I switched out my stock of stock ammo for the researched
@Greenguy1077
Жыл бұрын
@@8ballentertainment.885 it's was tnt
@luperamoon
Жыл бұрын
It killed him because he damaged the exposed breech, since it counts as an internal component it causes the crew to become vulnerable to overpressure despite no actual armor penetration taking place
@panther-nk2hn
Жыл бұрын
@@luperamoon Thank you, Gaijin, very cool.
I've noticed that first issue on the good ol Jumbo, too. Shots that have no business penetrating going through the absolute thickest part of the mantlet
@a.b.3455
Жыл бұрын
Yea especially the german 88 loves to overpressure my jumbo.
@BIGmlems
Жыл бұрын
@@a.b.3455 wish my 8,8 would overpressure, haven't landed an mg port shot in some time without it getting eaten into oblivion.
@a.b.3455
Жыл бұрын
@@BIGmlems I love the fact that a 76mm HEAT-FS to my track can overpressure me more constantly then actual HE or APHE
@PotatoeJoe69
Жыл бұрын
I've found quite the opposite. Shots that should go thru don't. Actually I've had some really weird stuff happening against the 76mm Sherman's lately, where even tho the mantlet is paper, my German 75mm still bounces off when he's looking right at me within 200m.
@JackTheNoober
Жыл бұрын
@@BIGmlems I've noticed that if you hit the MG ports gun barrel it tends to eat the entire shot sometimes.
Would love to see some Japanese tank gameplay. The Chi-Tos are pretty good and at top tier there’s the mbts with 4 sec reloads and gen 3 thermals on the Type 16s and Type 10(s). I would’ve rather they fixed the type 10s armor then add another one, but oh well.
@frankieM_
Жыл бұрын
yeah the weirdass gaps between the composite plates is annoying
@user-ns4zm8qe9p
Жыл бұрын
We are here for the cheeto latte
@speedtrees6252
Жыл бұрын
Ngl I'd rather them add an actual fucking anti air than add the type 10(p) or fix the type 10(s) the amount if times i end up dying in spawn to CAS is just way too much. I love the Type 93 for fun, but as an actual anti air stingers are pain, dont lock on to helis until they're in sneezing range, and you'll never lock a drone at all.
@derritter3873
Жыл бұрын
@@speedtrees6252 I just have to put it out there, when I wrote Type 10(s), I meant that because there will soon be 2 Type 10s. Also as for anti air, they really should as there are a few options they can pick. The Type 81, Type 11, and the Chū-MPM. Preferably the Type 81 or Type 11 as the Chū-MPM is mainly anti heli/tank/landing ship.
@speedtrees6252
Жыл бұрын
@@derritter3873 fair, and here's hoping maybe they have something for the next dev server for AA.
Great video as always! Could you do a video about the ST-A3 next? It has good reload speed, high velocity HEAT shell and decent speed
Play Chi-Ri II but only using 45mm cannon :DD or ST-A series
@henrique2456
Жыл бұрын
💀
@michjed7
Жыл бұрын
I'm spading STAs atm, it's pain :V
@cookiecracker2
Жыл бұрын
I actually liked the sta-1
As others have already suggested, try playing the Japanese tanks with the Type 2 Model 2 Cannon, especially the Chi Nu II and the Chi To tanks. Very fun, much kill. also, there was no need for the Vk3002 protopanther, it just makes it a total of 5 panthers for a panther line up
@joshuamueller3206
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention there are so many vehicles in Germany you need to research like 12 just to get to the next rank. I ground for the Panther A like a mad man, because I wanted to skip over this one.
@lucagorosito3715
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuamueller3206 why would you skip the panthers they're great grinders (only because of how absolutely broken they are)
@wulfthemountaindragon5432
Жыл бұрын
It's a step in the right direction to fill out that annoying gap in tanks in the middle of the German tech tree. Prototypes, if used correctly, aren't really all that bad to have. They can be used to fill out such gaps so we have something to tie in with the next, actual production model of that tank. Fighting it, I shoot the front plate with the 76 and I can kill it. Side armor is the same normal panther side armor, the most armored part is the mantlet that says 50, but seems to actually be double that. And anyone getting mad at the number of panthers should probably take a look at the *hordes* of Shermans.
@joshuamueller3206
Жыл бұрын
@@lucagorosito3715 I did not skip the Panther. I skipped the VK 3002 because I just wanted the Panther.
@Chtulhu1204
Жыл бұрын
As a USSR player, I fricking hate how broken the german tree is. Especially around 4.7 -5.5. You see a german tank, aaand your dead. Sure, shoot at it all you want, never ever gonna pen it. Never ever gonna over pressure it. Shit, I swear you could fire the Sturmtiger at a Panther, and it would hit, the Panther would go "Oh, I didn't see you there, thanks for the heads up mate :)". And your dead.
Thank you for using the command and conquer generals backround music, definitely brough back some nostalgia
"That Armata in the parade..." I literally did a spit take.
I'm shocked it took you more than one shot to kill that is-1, I get instantly obliterated every time
@giornogiovanna5214
Жыл бұрын
Russian bias only works when you play against them
@benitomussolini6524
Жыл бұрын
Reverse into the enemy
The ZiS-43 OR the ZiS-30. Both great and really fun tanks
When I played it and it was fully stock it's mobility caught me off, it's so fast, it was like I had it fully spaded. Really nice tank overall, had some questionable moments happen but it was a fun experience nonetheless. If you're a fan of WW2 tanks this one will surprise you in many ways.
They are a great learning tank for casemate operation. You quickly learn to turn the hull as that's faster then the turret movement.
Seeing you play the Type 16 or Type 10, or top tier JP would be cool!
I miss when the Panther A was the fast panther.
@friendlycomradeivan5393
Жыл бұрын
Still the most brawler capable, with that turret traverse speed and mobility, while VK3002 has that garbage hand cranked turret same as Panther D
@kimjanek646
Жыл бұрын
@@friendlycomradeivan5393 it’s not hand cranked. Just some underpowered electrical motor. Later it’s powered by the engine and wasn’t any faster on idle, unless the driver reved the engine.
@dreamhaze9123
Жыл бұрын
@@friendlycomradeivan5393 Panther G is plain better now.
@friendlycomradeivan5393
Жыл бұрын
@@kimjanek646 I stand corrected thank you for the info, now I wish reving the engine would make it faster
@friendlycomradeivan5393
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamhaze9123 meeehhhh, the extra armour in the bottom of the turret and the sides of the hull barely adds any relevant protection and without any engine upgrades, it makes the whole thing sluggier and just overall a fat cow that barely maneuvers in tight spaces
That thing really shouldnt be 5.0. Light tank mobility with medium tank armor and heavy tank firepower
That background music takes me back. It’s from Command & Conquer Generals back in 2003… I feel old.
I love the random meme edits you did
I like how you got killed by the breda then got revenge on the same dude in a different match lol
hey spooks, huge fan! could you try out the panther F sometime? i recently unlocked it and its stupidly good for sniping because it has a rangefinder. It also has pretty decent frontal armor for brawling. i get a lot of 5-6 kills games with it and im only level 26, so you should have a field day with it.
hey spookston I've got a video idea on the m48 super and i was wondering what is your opinion on it and if you could make a video on it. thank you
Unusual and obscure vehicles are fun to see. Could you try the QF 3.7 Ram next?
@bradentucker4854
Жыл бұрын
as a Canadian fuck yeah
@bickboose9364
Жыл бұрын
@@bradentucker4854 Did you mean: "As a Canadian fuck, yeah!" or "As a Canadian, fuck yeah!" ?
@meesamkhan4767
6 ай бұрын
@@bickboose9364 💀💀
Italian 90 is godly, you should play the semovente 90/53, its actually cracked at its BR
Spookston I was wondering if you could play the T30 Heavy as I think it's pretty good but I'd prefer to see your perspective on it.
you should try the bredda 501 it has a good amount of pen and the aphe stock round can 1 shot an Abrams from the side
Spookston what do you think about the army's new Lynx OMFV apparently there trying to replace the Bradley with it.
could you please tell your opinion about the lynx ifv? Shuld it be added?
i absolutely love this thing, I was forced to make a new account because my PC broke and i can't transfer it to PS4, and this was what i grinded. It's made me a bunch of SL
Heeey spook, can you make a video of each nation, from rank 1 to 7 matches, like the "evolution" of the tech tree :x
What do you think about the minigun sky raider and the toilet bomb?
I love how you just question random bugs that happen during a fight, and just move on after you kill them. Absolute Chad
I have 2 strikes on my channel.....should i make all my content private until the strikes have fucked off? 2 of them were for hate speech and they were war thunder streams From 2020 and i believe recently in this year I already made my past live streams private But should i just to be safe make my video clips private to?
damn, i really felt that "what" at 0:52 that is some stuff i see multiple times yet understand it less and less
japanese 5.7 with the tiger Shermann and new M36 is quite fun
i see a lot of jp mains talk about hightier and the midtier, but not that middle between. ive falled in love with the sta3 and its autoloader, it gives you insane rapid fire sniping ability at 6.7, the other sta's arent bad but they lack that 6s reload
For the overpressure thing I think something funky is going on in warthunder. I got overpressured in a challenger MK2 by a heat-fs from a tam-2c
Man I still remember the few months before this was in game. I was a new player at that time and I had to pair my Tiger H1 with my Pz 4 H and F2 to fill up my lineup before I got the Panther D.
Play the jumbo with the AP shell
In-game def prefer the Panther D to the VK but that's also down to the D being absurdly low br for having such good hull armor compared to everything around it
the turret rotation on this thing kills me every time
Since you mentioned it what about the KV2 with the 107mm?
Whenever I play the panther i have this sense of dread when playing on snow maps cause I constantly fear the transmission bursting into flames
So its a panther with no steroids at all?
Breda 501 has a dumb huge amount of explosive filler so maybe that's why it overpressured
Maybe do a video comparing the Panzer 3 M to the Panzer 4 G at the same br? Why the latter is absurdly undertiered
*Me the last Japanese main playing the Chi-Ri in honor of that poor soul *Truly a dying breed* Also yes please play more Japan, like the Chi-Nu II and the Type 74's or Type 61
@jonathanallen3688
Жыл бұрын
I play the Chi-nu II instead. The chi-ri can be fun but it's just so slow and such a big target.
The hangar AI struggles in that area because during winter event they changed hangar. In that area where they struggle, there was narrowing caused by snow piles and tanks always slowed down and had to pathfind way through it. I think they changed hangar but actually never touched AI and pathfinding, meaning hangar looks like summer one but AI acts like its winter hangar. Also this has never happened before that event so im pretty sure thats the cause.
talking about the armata,have you seen that new vid about it?
I'd like to see your opinion on both the porsche tigers please (normal and zimmerit covered versions)
@pure-coordination
Жыл бұрын
Porsche tiger is shit, command tiger is unstoppable
The only youtuber who actually gets uptiered.
play the P-61C-1 if ya want, its quite a funky plane.
Ok so i need some help, im a new player and ineed help with something. Whats the feature that makes you stop ur turret from moving but u can still move ur camera? Ive been trying to find the key bind. Yet i cant.
@kimjanek646
Жыл бұрын
Just search in the view options. There should be something that you bind to a key that allows looking around. Not sure how it’s called.
@terroah4832
Жыл бұрын
@@kimjanek646 Ive.. tried that.
@kimjanek646
Жыл бұрын
@@terroah4832 Controls -> Common -> View controls -> Mouse look activation
@terroah4832
Жыл бұрын
@@kimjanek646 Thank you!
1:59 that is most likely because of last christmas still when there was tight gap there and it seems they've never bothered to fix it. So the AI still think that there's a tight gap there
I love it when spookston complaines about teasmates only bringing one vehicle and than dieing and leaving yet he does the same thing....
maybe you could do quick play/avoid for tanks in the tech tree
The Panther is an medium tank under Wehrmacht doctrine. Gun caliber not armor determined what the tank would be considered. A 75mm main gun made it a medium, only the Allies used armor thickness to determine classification.
0:44 the new overpressure mechanics really need just removed. I have a clip of me in a m60 bouncing a heat shell off of the side of the hull at a really high angle and the heat shell from a 105 on this German m48 overpressured me aulthough it litterally bounced off and hit the ground about 80 feet away. it wasnt even from the concussion forces of the shell like it litterly killed the tank with overpressure from 80 feet
Am I tripping or every once in a while the vid glitches and starts to freeze even when the videos been loaded
Here’s a fun little fact: gaijin sorta did an oopsie and made the panther D have the same maneuverability of the VK while having its armor
Spookston : Aims at some point in the forest Screen: Target destroyed
imo the VK just looks like a so much more slick and clean design too, i know the sideskirts can be useful for the panther but for looks it just seems cleaner without them
2:07 Ah this is the humor we come for once again
"There's an endangered species right there-" Boom
fCK I noticed, you add soundtrack from C&C Generalz lol, I'm feel I'm playing that game.
spookston you should do a video about the EE-T2 Osório MBT!
Hey spookston! Big fan of your videos I’m thinking of picking up the T14 American premium vehicle but I’m not sure if it’s a good purchase and the video you made on it was 2 years ago so is it possible to get an updated take on the T14? Thanks and keep making videos!
@uisce_
Жыл бұрын
Just wait for it to go on the Warbonds shop. It's there relatively often
@fullsetsunk4090
Жыл бұрын
I believe it got a BR increase since then It's a decent tank if you angle your armor but the gun is a short 75 which struggles against heavier opponents in uptiers Also as the other guy said it shows up for warbonds occasionally I'd say the premium M18 would be a better pick, there's also a sale coming in late october/early november with 50% off on all vehicles
@Tanker19
Жыл бұрын
@@fullsetsunk4090 awesome! Figured there wouldn’t be much new but since the BR increase wasn’t sure if it was totally outclassed by stuff like tigers and IS’s I’ll wait for that sale tho!
@jintsuubest9331
Жыл бұрын
It use to be really good at being a heavy tank with serviceable gun. Now it is just a overweighted Sherman. I never hand an issue one shooting them whenever I saw one.
@Tanker19
Жыл бұрын
@@jintsuubest9331 thanks for the info still might consider it but definitely will take into consideration!
Please do some more videos on Japanese vehicles. The Chi-Ri and Ho-Ri production are both really fun to play.
This thing is so frustrating to fight against. I've found that I can't even pen the front plate, straight on, with a shell that has ~150mm of pen (500 meters, 30° angle) like, even in an uptier this thing is wild. They're phenomenal at spawn camping not even 3 minutes into a Ground RB match, as I've fallen victim to that many times. I get out of spawn, reach a shooting position and then one of these is already behind our entire team. I can't imagine having to face this at 4.0, that's absolutely ridiculous. Yeah it's armor is a lot thinner, but it sure as hell doesn't behave that way.
@aexandereung5686
Жыл бұрын
what tank is that exactly?
@cldus7442
Жыл бұрын
just... shoot the muzzle brake. It'll destroy the barrel instantly with like anything. Then shoot the mantlet because he has no turret traverse
@aexandereung5686
Жыл бұрын
@@cldus7442 easier said than done, if you slightly miss the tip and hit the barrel from the side it wouldnt do any damage.
3:23 that fit so incredibly well
I would like to see you play the super Pershing because it is my favorite tank of WWII
Please try out the tiger h1and marder 3h at toptier it works relativly good
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the car sound at the start is a Mk 4 Supra 2step-ing
I would love to see a video on the history and absurdity of the M-50 Ontos. The USMC really said MOAR GUNS
As a Japanese main, I'd love to see you play some top tier japanese games and to hear your impression of the lineup. I think its pretty good but christ it needs an actual anti air, not the type 10(p) that gaijin is giving us. Also would love to see you play the Chi-Ri II, the Chi-Ha Short gun and Long gun, and maybe the type 87 RCV and Type 74 whichever model you'd wanna play.
Panther A : why are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?
3:27 If you want to play japanese vehicles I recommend the chi-to and the type 75 sph, I find those the most fun.
I hope they start adding more variants of American vehicles such as the regular T95 medium tank with the 90mm stabilized gun with apsfds. Perhaps more pre-cold war tanks. Maybe something that can’t be penned frontally from 1000m
"bitch" is my favorite lineup
Maybe you should play type 74 G? It's probably worst 9.0 premium right now. And Japan don't have alternative. Would've been interesting to hear your opinion on that tank
I love your videos a lot, keep it up. Your my favorite youtuber! Bye!
👍. Down / same tiers are pretty rare in my experience. Panzer 4 / 5, ru 251, Ferdinand, cent 5/1, cent mk 3, action x, any of the 103’s, Would be a good tank to play. Don’t see many if any vids on that
The way it’s going, we’re gonna have an open-top variant at 4.7 in the next update.
Command and conquer generals USA theme made me drop my tears
Play the Breda 501 and explain why that thing should stay 4.0
@ideadlift20kg83
Жыл бұрын
I hope it goes up to 5.3
It's fucking insane that this is 5.0 while the only 76 Sherman with a lower BR is the M4A1.
0:50 Just the absolute confusion that "...w-what?" conveyed XD WTF Gaijin?!
I don't know if you've played the Object 906, but I'm sure you know how much of a cheese that can be. Definitely one of my favorite soviet tanks.
Would it be possible to eventually the char 25t please
So this is basically Germany’s firefly. You can go through about everything but a lot can easily go through you.
Next german addition: wooden panther mockup
Would love to see M56 zooming around.
When a prototype Panther goes faster then any of panther in it's ranks *Sonic noises*
It can surprisingly keep up at 5.7 (When I put the tiger H1 I keep getting up tier to 5.7)
surely you try out the M10 GMC?
Could you do the German BMP-1 next? Specifically stock, I wanna see someone put that stock missile to work XD
@Cheesycat0
Жыл бұрын
u don't. u use ur cannon
Imagine if there was a VK25.XX or something along those lines with the long 75 and the layout of a slightly smaller panther and even less armor, allowing it to act as a light tank.
@donaldscott9909
Жыл бұрын
no
@Cheesycat0
Жыл бұрын
@@robertharris6092 it will be 5.7 considering the m18
Spookston's mind melting after becoming the average 5.0-5.7 German player