The Over The Top Swing Myth - Real Student Golf Lesson
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The over-the-top golf swing lesson that is making golfers worse. Use these simple ideas to help your golf swing. Hit straighter driver shots and iron shots with Mark's easy golf lessons.
Stop slicing the tee shots, fix your over-the-top golf swing with measured data, and leave the golf myths behind.
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OMG!!!! Lightbulb!!! 💡💡💡🤯🤯🤯 I went out to the garden, some practice swings in front of the window for reflection. Holy mother of golf! Thanks so much👍👍
Mark! You really outdid yourself on this one. I don't know what is more incredible, the fact it's so simple and easy, or that I have never heard it, or anything similar before.
Ive watched 1000's of YT golf vids and this is the first time I've ever seen this @3:15 makes complete sense. Gunna give it a try.
Always a great source of understanding, this video is one of your best! Excellent explanation; excellent drills!
OMG this is why you are my favorite KZread golf coach. I've been struggling with the over the top swing and have tried everything I've seen on KZread but this might just be the solution as is makes so much sense! Will let you know how I get on with this in mind.
Great explanation on how subtle this OTT move is, which I have been fighting for years on, hopefully these drills will get this resolved, thanks, cheers
Smartest golf instructor on KZread. And your ideas/lesson are very original and different. Thank u
Such a good video mark. I’ve been struggling with this and get the club completely vertical on the down swing
Great lesson Mark. I look forward to working on this. At the beginning of the year I was hitting all my clubs so well. Then about 6 weeks ago I started shanking short irons. Then all of a sudden I lost 30-40 yards on irons...but the ball was going crazy high. Looking at divot patterns I am severly out to in and I'm having trouble sorting that out. Thanx for the video.
Beautiful Mark. Thank you! I was literally working on my pelvis tilt today at the range and had no idea WHY I was losing control when I didn't have that "tilt" and more arch in my back. Talk about perfect timing for a video! Worth a sub for sure.
This!!!!! I can’t tell you how stoked I am to get this information. I have been struggling to the point of throwing the god damn towel in. I’ve been struggling with the frustration of no matter what I try I never get that eureka moment. I think this could be it! 🙏🏻 thanks Mark. 👍🏽
Mark - You've uncovered my issue. I've never heard this before. Thank you!!
what a revelation . i hope this will fix my swing path for good after trying it with different coaches in a year. looking forward to trying it at the range
I really appreciate how concise your info is, all meat and potatoes no fluff!
I've been doing a similar drill, but adding in a kind of left leg stamp as I'm finishing the backswing. It's a bit like your drill where you lift the left foot and put it down again. So my drill covers a full ribcage turn (which was a big issue for me), the downward movement (crouch) which shallows the path and lowers the hands, and also the early move into the left side. It's wonderful!
Amazing how you can figure out something that detailed! Thanks for sharing
The feel that has really helped me with this is "Start on the same arc you came back on" ... my over the top tends to come from me "feeling" as if I'm trying to go from backswing to the ball in a straight line (creating a situation where I drastically move everything from right of target to left after hitting the ball causing a slice). This drill really puts it into perspective where the pelvis is leading that feel! Thanks for the drill Mark.
4:14 wow just what I’m working on with my lessons. In one lesson I went from -13 to +3 swing path just with him saying to me to feel like my club is scrapping down a wall behind me. Obs I was doing the wall drill with an alignment stick. Very good thanks mark 👍
So good. Been struggling with this for 2 years now.
Great video. This really works well. Getting a much more solid contact. Overdrawing some shots but I think that is just a timing issue. 👍
Wow. i will try it. I know it's going to work. Thank you. I'v been working on shalowing for so long.
Liking these drills. Been combining the split hand drill with some Trackman “Tracy” analytics to improve club to path and get things a little more neutral.
Absolutely Mind blowing !!!😮😮. Thanks Mark
The wrong, turning underneath action, has crept into my game over a 3 month period. Sometimes I turn and strike it pure but didn't realise why. Now I know. Will be working on this from tomorrow. Thanks Mark
GREAT - I have started doing the Rahm 3/4 swing to help my striking and this HELPS & works great with the Rahm work i have been doing. Awesome addition to my range work.
@mikeneuburger3989
11 ай бұрын
Best thing I ever did was shorten my backswing a bit. Helped me realize I wasn’t turning through enough. Started even doing half backswings and focusing on the turn and the finish. Good stuff
Great video Mark. Always cut through the crap and give us all very useful information that will really help 👏🏼
@MarkCrossfield
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, that means a lot to me. 👍
@eddiekay1700
11 ай бұрын
You are the #1 golf follow on KZread thank you
Easily my favourite tip. Thanks Mark.
Fantastic angles mark…super advice
Thanks Mark, as always a beautiful tip 😊
Fantastic drills Mark!
I have this “over the top action “ Iv been working on tilts rather than rotation , so thanks will give this ago
Always great tips........you're welcome
similar to Monte Scheinblum's "zipper away" drill. the best teachers all comverge on similar ideas, though they express then differently
So this fault for me has been giving me the Tom Hanks! No bend in the hips at setup, right hip flying forward in the down swing, in turn throwing the hands way in front and coming down steep and across. Been able to play some ok golf with some thoughts that basically get me into a decent position at impact. But actually understanding the fault and having it resolved at setup is going to be a game changer for me! Do you still do one to one lessons?
Best video yet! I struggle so hard with an over the top driver swing. I was doing something similar to this on the range today and getting some good results, but wasn’t really sure what I was doing differently. This video has validated what I was doing and explains exactly what I was struggling to put my finger on earlier!
This is a great vid 👍
Mark another brilliant video
Question on RH golf swing and the inside of right arm to face forward...I have found this facing forward leads to pulls as my right arm naturally turns inward at impact, if I setup inward I don't seem to pull or have tendency to feel over the top... can you cover this subject please and help with correct delivery?
Heard you talk a lot about adding more tilt in the past but it has always been shank city for me when I’ve tried it. Maybe I am already tilted and adding more is too much?
Thank you Mark… Thank you for proving that Shakira was right to say, “Hips don’t lie.” No, seriously…this is a great video. Love the bio mechanical understanding of what’s going on with our swings! Exciting stuff.
This is brilliant!
Interesting! Looks like their wrists are also close to parallel to the ground than the over the top example
There a oldish video of tiger woods. Having the same problem. He had to work on it for ages he said.
I've never seen this concept explained so simply. Just turn into your backswing, bend the way you're facing, then start downswing. I did a search for similar wording on the web and found nothing. This is a very easy thought to take to my practice.
That's an amazing insight to the golf swing and a brilliant drill to help respect 👏
OMG this is my bad swing the hips feel like they collapse as I force the power. My fix is turn back with tilt then my only swing thought is feel the lead shoulder to drive down first and under me.
Love it, going to try this with both irons and driver over the next few weeks, much prefer evidence based tuition to absolute clickbait nonsense!
Really what your showing here is allowing the club to drop down (not back) before rotation. Justin Rose, Ernie Els both talk about this.
Golf is a funny game. I came into a lesson swinging the opposite to this student. 7-11 degrees from the inside. Instructor said, "try swinging over the top." Path went to 2-3 from the inside. Baby draws. Feel vs Real.
@barking_mad6649
11 ай бұрын
I think just how different the two are is still heavily understated. Just small changes on camera can feel worlds apart in physical feels.
@jonathanthomason7896
11 ай бұрын
@@barking_mad6649 Couldn't agree more.
good shit brah
Hovland, Scottie, etc have over the top swing paths. They do shallow it but they follow an over the top path with their hands.
Watch how much Mcilroy dips/squats in the initial part of the downswing. Same thought.
The human body is a wonderful reactive machine. For me and my swing I do slightly disagree with Mark, and I emphasise this relates to my swing not necessarily someone else's, in order to allow my lower body to rotate properly, in transition I need to have the feeling of the club grip moving more out than down thereby giving myself room to rotate. But that is because I have a history of coming to far from the inside (typically 8-10 degrees from inside) which started because I had to much slide in my swing. Once I have the feeling of the club being sufficiently far away from the body in transition, rotating happens pretty naturally
Why hasn’t there been any course vlogs with the coach recently?
Interesting. As a beginner, I naturally always draw my irons, so I guess I'm doing it right. My woods on the other hand slice horribly, so I gotta fix that.
I saw two coaches in the 20 years 2000-2020 and both put me off ever seeing any more coaches. They were both pushing the hand/club drop at the top of the backswing and to me as a scientific thinker it was just wrong. I didn't know what was right but I knew this wasn't the solution. It was trying fix a symptom not the disease. More recently I had some lessons with a coach and all he concentrated on was grip and takeaway. He said if the grip, stance and first 12 inches of the takeaway were correct I had enough coordination to get back to the ball in the right place. He was right.
@barking_mad6649
11 ай бұрын
Mark has taught dropping the club behind you at the top of the swing, and allowing it to fall. I tried this and to be fair it worked, but I could sense it was way too much manipulation. This drill is much better in my opinion. I'd agree to an extent about the takeaway, but at the end of the day if tour first move is for the hands or trail shoulder to come forward at the top of the swing, then you're always going to be OTT. As I am 😂
Hey Mark: Tell your FCPX video guy that he needs to fix whatever he is doing because he keeps releasing videos that either missing plug-ins or media. That is why so many of your videos are plagued by “red Ts”. Otherwise love your videos and podcasts. I never miss a one. Keep up the great work!
This usually happens when you keep posture and start to turn with your hips first then letting the arms move down still in posture. Result shallow plane.
i'm looking at mark's legs. the legs initiate the actual bending the hips, pelvis, etc seems to follow the feet / legs, eh?
@barking_mad6649
11 ай бұрын
The first move should be a shift in pressure as the body re centres before the top of the swing is reached, followed by this movement. If you do this without shifting pressure you'll just crunch backwards and your low point will cause fats.
You’re Welcome! Errr, I mean Thank You!!
If only I could find a coach that could articulate movements that make sense rather than going through the motions and just providing general movements that make no sense to the student other than confusing them.
Need more muppet golf!!!
Miracle Swing Experience promotes an over the top swing.
@dsc-nr5zy
3 ай бұрын
You can play with that kind of swing, and I've done it for years, but good luck hitting high draws. It's a fade-type point and shoot swing.
I tried this but unfortunately it didn't work for me, probably because it gave me no feel for where the club head was supposed to go. The drill that did work was to take the club to the top of the backswing then feel like the head was running away and down a wall placed behind me. Doing that slowly at first got the club back on plane. Obviously I turn with it too, but that's not the feeling, the turn just happens. Over the top is no more.