The origins of the Bessemer Class Great Lakes ore boats and a clever trick by John D. Rockefeller

The Bessemer class of ore freighters on the Great Lakes were a recognizable and powerful breed of vessel. There would have been far fewer of them had it not been for a clever ploy pulled by robber-baron John D. Rockefeller on six of the biggest builders of ships on the Great Lakes. They took the bait and Rockefeller got the last laugh.
Built in 1896, Bessemer Class vessels were still working the lakes as late as 1967.

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  • @shanepatrick4534
    @shanepatrick45342 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful bit of history on a very cold night.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!.

  • @steamandsmoke97
    @steamandsmoke972 жыл бұрын

    I love how all of the Vessels were named after very Prominent Men in the Engineering & Development of Steam Power, The Iron & Steel Industry, Electricity, and Telegraphy. And all owned by the World's Largest Oil Tycoon of the day. God I love Industrial History!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep- I found that really cool. Marine Review named them all in 1896 and listed for what they were famed.

  • @leehanna4929
    @leehanna49292 жыл бұрын

    You certainly make the history of Great Lakes boats interesting! Thanks for another good lesson!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @historyduck4402
    @historyduck44022 жыл бұрын

    These were very interesting designs for freighters on the great lakes

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think so too!

  • @jackrabbit5047
    @jackrabbit50472 жыл бұрын

    I really love the aesthetic of those old Lakes steamers.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know... they have great lines.

  • @robertmccracken72
    @robertmccracken722 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!! I love the turn of the century steel industry. Pittsburgh, Youngstown and Cleveland contributed so much to the development of the entire world!!!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more!

  • @tomcook5813
    @tomcook58132 жыл бұрын

    I met Samuel F B Morse III, he was quite elderly and that was around 1990, he was an amateur radio operator in our local radio club in Yucaipa Ca. Very nice gent, was fun to meet the grandson of the inventor of the Morse alphabet 😃.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a cool story! BTW- I have looked at everything that I have and I cannot find an accurate height for the Anderson" pilothouse or cabins. So your guess is as good as mine- perhaps better. Sorry.

  • @tomcook5813

    @tomcook5813

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes That’s ok Wes, It means a lot you looked. You keep makin em, I’ll keep watching em! Howdy from Oklahoma!

  • @aspiceronni4462
    @aspiceronni44622 жыл бұрын

    Another great history lesson I didn't know I needed, but I'm grateful I got. Thanks, Wes.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it!

  • @paulmore4118
    @paulmore4118 Жыл бұрын

    I have painted a picture of one of the Bessemer vessels, I just loved that style with the twin stacks and side boards. I still have it.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    Жыл бұрын

    That is awesome!

  • @davidkalbacker6033
    @davidkalbacker60332 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation and information-- many many thanks

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @frankz5864
    @frankz58642 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another excellent History lesson and keep up the great work!!!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @randyclyde4939
    @randyclyde49392 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks, Wes! A marvellous story and one with great history! I always enjoy your in-depth work and look forward to the next one!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @rodneywalat8956
    @rodneywalat89562 жыл бұрын

    If only Ken Burns would get together with Wes and collaborate on a historic project about Great Lakes history like this (I'm talking mini-series here since 1hour would not be enough), I'll bet it would out class his Civil War series and any other series that he has ever made. I could see it becoming required viewing in U.S. History classes throughout the country. Wes has a way of taking us back through time in a time machine.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fell free to contact him... his agent will say, "...who? What? How'd you get my number!? CLICK!"

  • @daviddavid5880
    @daviddavid58802 жыл бұрын

    Wait... the guy who bit off way more than he could chew had labor problems? Imagine everyone's shock. Nice vid. Keep 'em coming.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL a lesson in history.

  • @Calcite_II
    @Calcite_II2 жыл бұрын

    Great videos Wes, love watching them! I’ve been watching them whenever I can!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @scottyb68
    @scottyb682 жыл бұрын

    I am honored to have a class named for me.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rockefeller just knew you'd be coming along and said, "We must name our fleet after him," and so the did.

  • @antonfarquar8799
    @antonfarquar87992 жыл бұрын

    superb presentation - would be interesting to know the fates of these ships.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hummm... since I could tell folks every singe one, that may be another video.

  • @Vector_QF8
    @Vector_QF82 жыл бұрын

    What a great story! This was really well told, and I was completely engaged. I would love a “now the rest of the story” i.e. what happened to the vast fleet over the years. Thanks Wes! BTW - I got the Witch of November and really enjoyed the read!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! The publisher is OUT of them right now, and the printer is having supply chain issues. So, I'm glad that you got yours.

  • @BigLisaFan

    @BigLisaFan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Douglass Houghton ended up in Toronto, Canada as part of the breakwater wall at Ontario Place along with the Howard L. Shaw and Victorious. Nice to see what it looked like in the heyday of operation.

  • @-Cece

    @-Cece

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Wes you are amazing in voice and content. Sounds like something I would enjoy on PBS on wintry afternoon.

  • @rodneywalat8956

    @rodneywalat8956

    2 жыл бұрын

    If only Ken Burns would get together with Wes and collaborate on a historic project about Great Lakes history like this (I'm talking mini-series here), I'll bet it would out class his Civil War series and any other series that he has ever made.

  • @nothereatallo.o
    @nothereatallo.o2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson! Not sure if you are aware, but Bessemer himself tried to do some ship building in the 1870s. Look up the SS Bessemer for a good read/laugh.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info!

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson80082 жыл бұрын

    Very cool video, thanks for putting in all the research here. I had to grin as you revealed the bidding results, as that was clearly a Rockefeller move! Though I have no idea how anyone would find the information, it'd be interesting to learn how much money he then made from the vessels thru his ownership. Thanks again, Wes!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tried to figure that up... but my calculator just displayed, "YOU WANT WHAT?"

  • @thomasm195
    @thomasm1952 жыл бұрын

    Great video ,thanks for sharing 👍

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the visit

  • @kellybreen5526
    @kellybreen55262 жыл бұрын

    Your videos have a lot of depth to them. I am glad I subscribed and look forward to your latest.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you this one took more than a week of research alone, then it took 3 days to produce. The process is very similar to writing a chapter in on my books.

  • @kellybreen5526

    @kellybreen5526

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes I think my father had every one of your books. Like I told you, he gives the Yankcanuck in the 50's. Two of his 3 older brothers fired on salt water in the 30's and in the Merchant Marine. His oldest brother was killed by U510 in the Point Pleasant Park I February 1945. I grew up with Sailors and appreciate your work.

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby14022 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good story, thanks for posting it. Got any more lake boat books in the works?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet! We're sort of in the selling year after "Witch of November" was released. However, I have the feeling that my publisher will be asking for another fairly soon.

  • @JeffersonMartinSynfluent
    @JeffersonMartinSynfluent2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that Rockefeller named one of the ore carriers after Alexander Holley who is the undisputed engineer and creator of the layout of the modern steelmaking facility as we now know it.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, all of the Bessemer steamers and some of the barges were named for famous inventors or engineering pioneers.

  • @andrewostrelczuk406
    @andrewostrelczuk4062 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully done Wes!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks!

  • @georgepayne3231
    @georgepayne32312 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Would like to see one on the Corrigan fleet.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    You and me both!

  • @georgepayne3231

    @georgepayne3231

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes i am a shirt tail relative of a Corrigan sister. I have a cousin working on a book.

  • @carllafrance5510
    @carllafrance55102 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Wess! Very well done ! You really know your stuff ! You should be on discovery channel history channel Or PBS ! Have a great day !

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Naaa... those production companies gave up calling me 20 years ago... because I wanted to be paid.

  • @carllafrance5510

    @carllafrance5510

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes Good point you should be paid The quality you put into your Productions You tube is going main stream And will be the new history channel. Have a great day

  • @andrewostrelczuk406

    @andrewostrelczuk406

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wes you’re not the first and probably not the Last to get your work all inspected and talked about with some Big Wigs (In their own minds) and offered Peanuts for pay or worse! I’m glad that you resisted that temptation for your reward you may not even know it, you got to keep your sanity. I’ve heard about the Burn out experience from a few souls who once had it all and as if overnight had been reduced to ruined dreams.

  • @tdave1234
    @tdave12342 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video. Thank you!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stevenflebbe
    @stevenflebbe2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you won't mind a correction. Sir Henry Bessemer wasn't the father of the blast furnace, which was first used in the 14th century. Blast furnaces convert iron ore to almost pure iron, which is then refined into steel. Until the 19th century, this was a long process that produced relatively small amounts of steel at a time. Bessemer's contribution was to invent a new, faster steel making process using the Bessemer converter, which blew air through molten iron, converting it very quickly into steel, allowing larger amounts of steel to be produced in much less time.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh I don't mind... if you don't mind... his innovation was to blow oxygen through the molten iron... "air" has too many impurities and is more than 70 % nitrogen. Now we're even.

  • @haroldadelman1130
    @haroldadelman11302 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Wes! Thanks!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @TimCan144
    @TimCan1442 жыл бұрын

    never heard of these ships before, it's weird to see these kinds of lake boats with two funnels, also I am very happy that you actually show the general arrangement plans for these ships as they are hard to find online, I have found the plans to the Carl D Bradley but they are unfortunately low quality and hard to make a model off of, do you plan on going over her in the future?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps- but I normally work in the more obscure wrecks.

  • @TimCan144

    @TimCan144

    Жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes Good news, I found high quality cutaway plan of Carl D Bradley

  • @pipebender2522
    @pipebender25222 жыл бұрын

    Not being from Bay City, I guess that Frank Wheelers West Bay City shipyard is now Wheelers Landing; now a marina. That makes it across the Saginaw River from the former Defoe shipyard. Am I correct? Thanks for all this great history Mr. Oleszewski.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. It was just east of the railroad bridge and is now "Wheeler's Landing" marina.

  • @StephenMortimer
    @StephenMortimer2 жыл бұрын

    I just read the "Panic of 1819" (Browning) very informative

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll have to check it out.

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads19822 ай бұрын

    Interesting to know that there were different Classes of Lakeboats on the Great Lakes. There is the L6-S-B1 class of LakeBoats, the AAA class of Lake Boats, and the Bessemer class of OreBoats. How many classes of Lake Boat is there, and what is the histories of each of the different classes?

  • @mikeoswald8053
    @mikeoswald80532 жыл бұрын

    A great way to end the day. By the by, will my hero Klyde Morris be soon seen in the wheelhouse of a lake boat?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did that once way back about 30 years ago. Someone looked at the image and said, "Great freight image... what's that standing there?" Thus, I never try and wear both hats at the same time. ;)

  • @elijahbey3366
    @elijahbey33662 жыл бұрын

    Wes, my man!!!

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right on.

  • @vincentfontana7915
    @vincentfontana79152 жыл бұрын

    Question what are the long beams that hang from deck to just above water line on early steam ships ?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fenders. Or some may say bumpers. They protect the hull plates from dents when locking, rafting or docking. You may ask why not pull them up on deck when not doing those things? Well, the best place to store them, is just to leave them hanging.

  • @484berkshire
    @484berkshire2 жыл бұрын

    Was there any reason for deciding to keep the pilothouse so far back, besides the carryover from package freighter design?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    None that I could really nail down.

  • @greatlakefreighters889
    @greatlakefreighters8892 жыл бұрын

    how do you find these prints they look facinating

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch this and you'll find out... kzread.info/dash/bejne/aX6np8qFl8-Tl7w.html

  • @zeusapollo8688
    @zeusapollo86882 жыл бұрын

    What is the distinction between barge and freighter in this instance?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was blurred in the early days of wooden shipping on the lakes, as some of the small steam propellers were deemed "Steam Barge" but by the 1890s the term began to fade. Technically, and barge is a vessel without the ability to move under it's own power.

  • @velezdragon3574
    @velezdragon35742 жыл бұрын

    Why do they have two funnels?

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better draft for the boilers

  • @chrisschanbacher9061
    @chrisschanbacher90612 жыл бұрын

    Oh and it's pronounced like "redding" as in the past tense of read.

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh! Okay... and now you have 3 tries at pronouncing my last name... on video... for everyone to see... and me to correct you... ready set go....

  • @chrisschanbacher9061

    @chrisschanbacher9061

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes I'm not going to try it, I'll strike out lol.

  • @chrisschanbacher9061

    @chrisschanbacher9061

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes What the heck I'll give it a try, is it pronounced "smith"? Keep up the good work, enjoy your videos.

  • @eltoro6688

    @eltoro6688

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@authorwes , Ola-Shevskee

  • @markbaker3639
    @markbaker36392 жыл бұрын

    Really a rock bottom price? 😉

  • @authorwes

    @authorwes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pun intended- glad you got it.