Welcome to the GHOST SHIPS, GALES AND FORGOTTEN TALES channel! Here you'll find the most interesting, obscure, haunting and informative true tales of Great Lakes shipwrecks and maritime history. It is all presented to you by Wes Oleszewski the author of more than two dozen books- more than 17 of which are on the subject of Great Lakes maritime adventures. He will take you THERE in each episode and you will find yourself going along on his research- somewhere back in time and feel as if you are really there. You'll meet real people who long ago worked the lakes and many of whom are still on the bottom of those five freshwater seas. Tune in today, and let the adventure begin!
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I grew up in the little town where brage 115 was found! These ships always facinated me
I have a Question: What are the Different types of Pilot House arrangements for lake freighters, and what are said arrangements called? Of course, I am not talking about the position of where the Pilot house is relative to the ship (as in Pilot house forward or all cabins aft), no, I am asking about the arrangement between the Pilot house and the cabins with it on the bow of the ship. Ships like the Calcite, Daniel J. Morrell, Cedarville, & S.T. Crapo, along with many other ships, had that certain arrangement with a Single deck of cabins and above it is the smaller pilot house.
Maritime history is fascinating. Around that time, women, instead of getting a "bbl," Brazilian Butt Lift, they added um, volume to their rear and by wearing "bustles," a large padded thing they wore under skirts. Interesting how the word has similar meaning...🤔
That may be where it originated
Those quarters were lovely. I saw where someone took the superstructure from an old ship, placed it on a foundation and made it their house! I love the idea, more so after seeing those photos. 🌹⚓
Photos thanks to the Library of Congress. Your tax dollars at work.
@@authorwes Ah, thank you! An immense source.
Do you know we’re I can some models of the Great Lake freighters
Not really- I build my own.
I RODE IT ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO AND LOVED IT. ABOARD WERE A GAGGLE OF COLLEGE ENVIRONMENTALISTS HYSTERICAL THAT IT BURNED COAL INSTEAD OF ENJOYING THE RIDE ! 'INDOCTRINATED YOUNG ZOMBIES !!!
When they put living quarters over the engine room, I would think the noise would be enough to make sleep impossible. 🤔 Or am I wrong?
People can learn to sleep anywhere.
The Stewart J Cort (of 1972) and the Presque Isle (of 1973) are the only Two Footers that are Pre-Edmund Fitzgerald Sinking. Also, I do highly think that the Presque Isle should have been one whole ship instead of a Tug Barge Combination. I honestly Do Not like the Tug Barge Combination.
I really enjoy your informative videos. I'm kinda a Great Lakes junkie when it comes to nautical history and with a Great Lakes library of over 150 books and counting (btw 10% are written by a guy named Wes Oleszewski) I really take heed to your recommendations and did find a copy of that Huron Cement history book. Thanks again for all you do for Great Lakes history.
COOL! Thanks for reading my books!! I'm just finishing book number 21- should be out next spring.
The Hilton is considered the Prototype of all Lumber Hooker Boats. It could be considered the Prototype of all Future Lake Freighters because it, like the R. J. Hackett that would come later, has the Pilot House Forward & Engine Cabins aft arrangement with an open spar-deck in the middle for Cargo.
Imagine, Two Fictional Ship companies. One is the Whale-Back Bulk & Oil Corporation, which uses only Whaleback Steamers and Barges, and the other is the Monitor Maritime Company, which uses only Monitor vessels. Also, my personal favorite of the 3 Monitor class vessels is actually the Yuma, which isn't a true monitor, but it's still a Monitor.
I say that one day, the Welland Ship Canal & the St Lawrence Seaway should be widened to allow larger ships such as the Footers to reach the Sea. Also, If only there were lists of all Past Ships owned by Companies on the Great Lakes.
In the end, whether composite hulled or Regular. Whether long or short, All Wood, All Iron, or All Steel, Lake Freighters are Cool, and the Classic Design is Unmatched.
Whale Backs could be built in the modern Day. With all the advances in technology, people can make them work.
With all the changes in Technology, new Whalebacks could be built that are more efficient and overall better than the Originals. Also, I made up some Fictional company for a Fictional fleet of Ships that just so happen to be Whalebacks. This company is called the WhaleBack Bulk & Oil Corporation.
Fictional corporation Name Idea: The WhaleBack Bulk & Oil Corporation. (It’s just some idea I had).
6:11 & 7:09, If those lake Boats could talk, they would all probably be very annoyed because they are all stuck waiting. The Captains too must be quite pissed because all their waiting is eating the Profits that they so desire.
Lake Freighters certainly come in many different Pilothouse & Cabin Arrangements. Some freighters have Very small Boxy Pilothouses, some have Small Cylindrical Pilothouses high up and in-front of the Bow Cabins. Some have Small Cylindrical Pilothouses atop the Bow Cabins, others have Larger Pilothouses on top of the Cabins. Some have more cabins, some have less. Lake Freighters truly are each individually very unique among each other. The only common similarity was their arrangement of Pilot House Forward & Engine Cabins Aft.
I dont understand why there was no apparent attempts made at radio communication between these ships.
There are radio communications, but they are all very passive. NO ONE will EVER imply or comment on how one captain is operating their vessel. It is all up to the captain alone. It always has been and always will be.
Yes, would love to see videos about individual boats (origin, ownership, costs, unique features, etc.)
You're talking about how obsolete scanners were briefly but us railfans use them daily
Good point. BTW- I just had to buy a new scanner.
According to C.G.rules of the road the Calloway has right of way and you're to let him pass ahead.
Isn't there a rule about "careless and reckless operation"?
What became of that captain? Can’t imagine that move went well with anyone on the lakes let alone Interlake.
The president of Interlake took his copy of the video and kept it for the next time management of the tin-stackers complained about one of the Interlake boats- then he sent that video to them with a note that read something like, "Oh yeah? Look what one of your boats did to us!"
There it is. The L6-S-B1 class of Lake Boat. There is also the AAA class of lake freighters that includes the Aurther M. Anderson, Cason J. Callaway, and the Philip R. Clarke (and others). Anyways, I wonder how ships are given their own classifications.
The idea of Package freighters to me on the Great Lakes is certainly unique. Most Cargoes carried on the Great Lakes are Bulk cargoes, but some cargoes are finished products that need to be delivered to stores for people to buy them.
The Roger Blough caught fire in 1971, and then it catches fire again in 2021.
Imagine what it would be like to have a Modern Day Whaleback. It would probably have a better design because technology has changed so much since the days of Alexander MacDougall.
Wes: keeps saying Polock. 0:53 Me: Smiles in Polish.
The Crew in the Crescent City: “You Wouldn’t Dare Execute us!!!” Anyways, does anyone imagine scenarios in Fantasy Fiction where there are nations and lands far away from the main setting that utilizes cool LakeBoat type Freighters and other cool Steam Ships and other technologies, or is that just me? Also, imagine a Lake Freighter GrainBoat called the SS Eustace Bruh. Funny name.
I do believe that you could make some good money by making models and selling them. Also, it’s funny. When I read the name of the video, I thought it said “Don’t be Afraid to Sink,” but it actually says “Don’t be Afraid to Stink.” Also, I would definitely like to imagine putting a Model of a Great Lake freighter in a pool and creating lots of big waves in said pool to simulate a Storm.
I am someone who likes HO scale Trains. Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a lake freighter model in HO scale that floats and runs? I would like that.
I really love how in the intro he highlights the AMA and what she did on November 11th '75 she's really overshadowed by the Fitz.
Your latest videos on the C4s brought to the Lakes are set as for kids so comments are disabled. I had a question regarding them.
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@@authorwes ah understandable. How can viewers submit questions?
No more comments? Michipecoten a ww ll boat ? ie ship !
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@@authorwes 🤷♂️ don’t recall ubber bad comments but it’s your channel , but ya them idiots always been a part of YT 😢 ✌️🤙 BTW thanks for the reply
a common visitor where i live, love your vids wes!
Watch for a future video on Captain TJs channel. He is the captain of the Manitoulin. He indicated that he would capture some video of transferring the taconite to his ship. That'll be interesting to watch.
Hey W. Wes Olsezewski, Is it possible for you to talk about all the Job Positions of a Crew in a LakeBoat? I am interested in the arrangement and the different roles different crew members play.
This broke my heart when I heard about her .I was both a gateman and helmsman on board her back in the 80's She was a beautiful ship in my eyes cause we really took care of her back then ! I believe she was scrapped for insurance purposes! Greed due to the political reasons of cutback of coal
Honestly, in my opinion, lake freighters with really small Pilot Houses are my favorite. And sure, I like ships like the Triple A Triplets (Arthur M. Anderson, Cason J. Callaway, and Philip R. Clarke), as well as the Honorable James L. Oberstar, The Michipicoten, The Roger Blough, The Stewart J. Cort, and generally most other ships with the Classic design, however, I really like the ships with the small Pilot Houses. In the end, all Lake Freighters are cool in my opinion, and I have never even seen one in person. Only in videos such as these and clips.
One thing I have thought up is that the Welland Canal and the St Lawrence Seaway should both be widened. The reason being that one day, the Iron will eventually run out, and once it does, then all the lake freighters will have to transition to delivering other kind of cargos, like intermodal freight, and Widening the Welland Canal & the ST Lawrence Seaway would allow larger ships like the Footers to pass through. Also, I wonder, what was the shortest Great Lake’s Ship to sport the Classic Design for Lake Freighters? Finally, the Arthur M. Anderson, the Cason J. Callaway, and the Philip R. Clarke are all Fine looking LakeFreighters (and you said they are known as the Triple A class LakeFreighter? I need to know more about all the different classes of lake Freighter).
It doesn't have the classic design, But it's still a neat Freighter.
Brilliant engineering, cooperation & integrity- an unknown phenomenon in this “ smart “ generation. Must have been absolutely amazing to be in Detroit in 1912.
The Ojibway makes quick work of the task. Good content.
Yep- they do an amazing job.
I used to work for the Ann Arbor Railroad. Had old pics of the car ferry’s with trains derailed in the ferry
Hey Wes, i really enjoyed your video on the EM Ford. I was just curious when you heard the steam whistle from the EM Ford, what ship on the Great Lakes do you think closely resembles that sound? I am going to do a mini documentary on the EM Ford myself, and I wanted to get a steam salute from the ship, but i can't find one anywhere. Thanks for reading this!
None. Her whistle was unique
She would have been fun to ride.
How did the Calloway not ground out? She drafts more than 10 feet.
The Mauthe's crew were watching on radar and asked the same question.
Was anything done to the other captain?
Nope.
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Is that you?
@@authorwes yea, I'm the guy who asked about the whistle. Just made a timestamp for ppl to hear the salute.
Who was the captain of the Mauthe during this trip?
Contact me at [email protected] for that