The ORIGIN Of Monsters In Undertale | THEORY

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  • @megaloodin
    @megaloodin21 күн бұрын

    here's my theory; monsters diverged from every other member of the animal kingdom waaaaay back when. They evolved specifically to decompose rapidly, why? to deter predators. If they disappeared upon death there would be nothing for them to feed on. So, over time, monsters began to lose matter which made up their body and decompose faster upon death as a result, eventually they became made of such little matter that their souls had to rely on magic to sustain itself. Eventually, we got exactly what is seen in undertale, monsters that turn to dust immediately upon death. Relying on magic to evolve this trait resulted in them developing magic attacks, since they were literally made of the stuff, As to why they look like so many animals, it's simple, Convergent Evolution, the same reason dolphins and sharks both have darker backs and lighter underbellies, or bats growing wings despite being completely unrelated to birds As for the magic thing, I think humans use inorganic/external magic, whereas monsters use organic/internal magic; I.e we see a human using a staff to create the barrier in the intro, as opposed to, every monster in the underground, even Madjick, a magician monster, who are able to use magic from their hands, my guess is that a human needs an external factor to use their magic, and a monster does not

  • @JaxOf7

    @JaxOf7

    21 күн бұрын

    I find it funny how Andrew is basically arguing intelligent design. I like your evolution theory more, but I don't think there's actually evidence that favors one over the other.

  • @5nightsatgengars830
    @5nightsatgengars83022 күн бұрын

    5:49 gerson is most likely not a boss monster due to boss monsters not aging until they have a child and since gerson does not have children and still looks ancient he is not a boss monster

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Fair point Edit: also gerson is a turtle monster and turtles live really long so that’s probably why he’s so old and knows things about boss monsters because he was one of the original monsters and fought in the war

  • @dud3g4mer18

    @dud3g4mer18

    21 күн бұрын

    Maybe he does, we don't really know much about Gerson in UNDERTALE, but he did have Alvin in deltarune, theorethically he could also have existed in UNDERTALE at some point

  • @Kiririll579

    @Kiririll579

    20 күн бұрын

    Is there an evidence that Gerson doesn't have children though?

  • @nneykobar_hali

    @nneykobar_hali

    18 күн бұрын

    he is turtle and inherited turtle-like longgewety

  • @galvinvoltag
    @galvinvoltag22 күн бұрын

    This actually makes sense, I don't know why we haven't thought of this before.

  • @infinite_paradox

    @infinite_paradox

    20 күн бұрын

    glitchtale thought of it

  • @theepic1944

    @theepic1944

    3 күн бұрын

    Because the Undertale fandom lacks creativity.

  • @SmallJoseph
    @SmallJoseph22 күн бұрын

    I had an idea similar to this a while ago, but with the difference that: The absorption of human souls was *very* deliberately so they be used a weapon/power source of some kind, though this has the plot hole of why a 7-soul monster was ever completed. Maybe they were banished shortly after? Maybe they weren't ever meant to actually get that strong, and they sort of found that out accidentally, and then decided it was too much of a risk?

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    I’d assume that the monsters were given soul absorption for battle with other humans but ended up being feared too much by the humans that created them to the point they were slaughtered and trapped underground

  • @rogayboss69420
    @rogayboss6942021 күн бұрын

    Maybe monsters were created to assist the humans that made them in battles or wars, their ability to absorb human souls being on purpose to make them ultimate killing machines. But were sealed underground due to having too much free will, since they could decide to rebel, kill a human, and take their soul and destroy them.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    I think this is the most likely explanation to soul absorption

  • @abdillahahmad7025

    @abdillahahmad7025

    16 күн бұрын

    Ah yes, they feared a "monster uprising" the same way some of us fear an "AI uprising"

  • @conquestanddeath4406
    @conquestanddeath440621 күн бұрын

    I always imagined monsters were created when humans used magic to give souls incorporeal bodies, creating the first ghosts which possessed stuff and became the first monsters.

  • @TheSkyGuy77

    @TheSkyGuy77

    21 күн бұрын

    Possible

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    20 күн бұрын

    I could see that. Ghosts definitely are more corporeal than monsters when they fuse with their bodies

  • @shadowreaperbg7759
    @shadowreaperbg775921 күн бұрын

    8:45 dude they got their own sci-fi technology

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    20 күн бұрын

    The timeline of when frisk falls is unknown but we know that enough time has passed since Chara fell in the 2010s that none of the monsters except toriel, asgore, and gerson (and maybe the dog couple) have ever seen a human. Also the description for the toy knife says plastic is a rarity nowadays which has many speculating that frisk falls down in the 2100s. It’s also possible that monsters are better with science?

  • @hopethewolf3142
    @hopethewolf314222 күн бұрын

    ANDREW! I did not need the goat jumpscare!!!

  • @shadowreaperbg7759
    @shadowreaperbg775921 күн бұрын

    Nahh this shit can go so fucking deep if you atart contesting the dots with Deltarune 😳

  • @shadowreaperbg7759

    @shadowreaperbg7759

    21 күн бұрын

    Yes I know they are different Deltarune is my favorite game I know it's not Undertale but the world building might be closer than we think it's a cool starting point for making theories

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    20 күн бұрын

    @@shadowreaperbg7759 oh don’t worry that theory is coming later 😉

  • @maybe3944
    @maybe394422 күн бұрын

    Okay so, I wanna talk about what I think here. As while your theory could very much be true, there's something I wanted to talk about that many fans don't seem to realize. When it comes to humans having magic, instead of looking at this like it's Undertale, we need to look at the game similarly as we would any other fantasy world. Humans aren't *born* with magic, sure. But they can learn it. And, in human society, they would have specific magicians that would use magic and master it so that any other random joe wouldn't just have access to magic. Everyone keeps forgetting that Undertale is a fantasy world, so the possibility of Undertale's humans being able to learn magic isn't too farfetched.

  • @WolfwhiteFox
    @WolfwhiteFox21 күн бұрын

    Okay! I have a LOT to say so first I'll start off saying, holy sh*t how is this video so underrated??? Like this is your first theory video and you ticked off all of the boxes, you made it entertaining, smart, open to opinions/suggestions, kept my attention like 👌 Amazing, truly, remember me when you're faamouusssss............... Anyway back to the topic, i absolutely love the idea of monsters being made by or a sub species of *humans,* since it's makes a lot of sense why they're so connected, I saw short for the *Glitchtale au* called *Hate's Origin* and in it a powerful human created the first monster and started the monster race and it had beautiful visuals for the metaphor. I personally had a theory that magic came down from the "heavens" or "stars" to earth and came with it was Monsters, the embodiment of Magic, and when they came they almost mimicked things of earth, animals, nature, ideas and even death (ghosts especially) and that was a long time ago, (like beginning of earth time period) and humans and monsters lived among each other until humans gained power from monster's magic, in which they started to lose when the exterminated and imprisoned them. Oooh! And i forgot to mention that you forgot that Gerson does have a kid, Alvin.... Unless he only exists in Deltarune? But then why would Gerson age in Undertale?? Idk but amazing video man! Keep going! 💖

  • @0m3g45n1p3r4lph4
    @0m3g45n1p3r4lph420 күн бұрын

    Very good theory! I think a lot of the details may have been accidental/result of experimentation with Magic, even as far as to say Monster SOULs were not explicitly intended, but formed out of magical necessity when creating life

  • @ahmadrh1386
    @ahmadrh138622 күн бұрын

    I totally think that is possible that some people learning about magic and suddenly creating different kinds of monsters but I think yyou misunderstood something in 3:13 , i think what that line is saying along the other ones is that all kind of souls have magical properties to them with h > bm > normal moster and because monsters are made mostly out of magic there isn't a barrier between their soul and outside so they can use as much as power as their souls have ( With boss monsters having stronger souls using more powerful magic ) But because humans have a really strong body so they need more mass to hold it so they have physical bodies which because their body is ( i think ) completely not made of magic there is a barricade between their soul and outside that's because not any normal human can't use magic and only magicians can use magic either they found a way to use the magic around them or found a way to harness their own souls or others with the second option being more likely Ps : sorry if i talked so much and if i had a bad grammar in my writing hope you have a nice day

  • @brastionskywarrior6951
    @brastionskywarrior695122 күн бұрын

    One problem you have not solved is how people know monsters can absorb human souls in the first place. This implies once upon a time someone before the human-monster war absorbed a human soul and became powerful. This was probably a single event which helped catalyze the war. Perhaps some magicians attempted to create monsters more powerful than boss monsters for use in human conflicts. And some specific monster became very powerful by absorbing the souls of as few as 6 sacrificed/murdered humans. Resulting in disaster. The memory of this event lived on either resulting in the war immediately, within a few decades or later on down the centuries. The monsters may not mention such an event because A: the event happened so long ago or far away that they were not very aware of it B: the monsters never mention it as it would not paint them in a good light

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    I’d assume that soul absorption was a purposeful inclusion in their creation which explains why they know about it in the first place because the waterfall signs say that no human souls were taken during the war. They also say that the monsters don’t know why the humans attacked so it was probably the fear of this soul absorption ability which led to the war

  • @JacksonVoet

    @JacksonVoet

    13 күн бұрын

    @@awesomeandrewgames Yeah, basically. Monsters were not the instigators here, and they didn’t absorb souls likely due to the fact that they are disgusted by it.

  • @tetankdank1599
    @tetankdank159918 күн бұрын

    I like to think that the reason why humans can not use magic is because of the witch trials that began in the 1500s (or was it 1600s?). All humans with or suspected to be able to use magic were killed, leaving little to no humans with magical abilities. That would explain why humans can no longer access magic.

  • @JacksonVoet

    @JacksonVoet

    13 күн бұрын

    They inadvertently anti eugenics themselves. They removed the one cool thing they had that wasn’t just murder.

  • @rfurthegamer3412
    @rfurthegamer341220 күн бұрын

    What is tstundereplane based on? The humans in the flashback use swords and spears, so how was tsundereplane created?

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    20 күн бұрын

    There is a theory that tstundereplane is a ghost possessing a toy plane due to them having a death animation rather than turning to dust. No matter what you believe, that’s the only way an airplane monster even makes sense

  • @theepic1944
    @theepic19443 күн бұрын

    You know, no one in the Undertale fandom has ever thought about that question like the monsters just exist for no reason until now.

  • @bradshawplays
    @bradshawplays18 күн бұрын

    one day there was two races, mettatons and spamtons one day, one became [BIGSHOT]'s and the other gained the power of n- oh there already dead.

  • @shimaumaaa
    @shimaumaaa21 күн бұрын

    imagine experimenting with magic on something as powerful as an elephant. a monster like that would be stronger than a boss monster surely

  • @arishachoudhury_
    @arishachoudhury_21 күн бұрын

    i think the ability to take a human sould isn't a defense mechanism,but something about how human souls are so powerful that they persist after death, meaning anyone could take one (apartfrom other humans i think)

  • @sambuujargalsaihan6101
    @sambuujargalsaihan610123 күн бұрын

    Fun fact low subscribers KZread have 378 subscribers but most popular video is 123k view and have 645 subscribers now

  • @SullyTheLightnerd

    @SullyTheLightnerd

    22 күн бұрын

    What?

  • @5nightsatgengars830

    @5nightsatgengars830

    22 күн бұрын

    Heh try 3.23k

  • @rfurthegamer3412

    @rfurthegamer3412

    20 күн бұрын

    You… have 2 subs… this guy has 3.2k

  • @havzp1802
    @havzp180221 күн бұрын

    And what if the real history about the war is different? I mean, most of the monsters haven't seen a human in their lifes, so under the history of humans being the bad ones the underground would have monsters like Undyne willing to fight until their death, and not the possibility of some monsters starting to think if they get out there wouldn't be a need for another war, Asgore would have started all the story when he was mad after Asriel's death, in those years probably a lot of survivors wouldn't be alive so everyone believed Asgore, then because the story gave hope to monsterkind Asgore wasn't able to even consider the option of telling the truth, idk, also good video :D

  • @emvk2002
    @emvk200221 күн бұрын

    A nice, well thought-out theory

  • @Cesares-yu4le
    @Cesares-yu4le22 күн бұрын

    Yo man, you're super underrated, good video.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @FlowerOfRegrets
    @FlowerOfRegrets20 күн бұрын

    Personal headcanon for humans, even though I have no evidence for it Ancient humans during the war were able to synthesize their stronger souls into a stronger form of magic compared to the monsters using their weapons and staffs, these synthesizers were eventually lost through the passage of time or unable to function after so long, which is why we never see Frisk using magic. And this still keeps the snowdin book in line, as they require objects to use magic, but the magic they use isn't an expression of themselves.

  • @RustysRevenge
    @RustysRevenge11 күн бұрын

    A question that popped in my head after Undertale Yellow came out was were is the Underground under, the vanillia intro implies Europe, Yellow Soul implies America, and Undertale Yellow implies Japan. Wait how are there airplane monsters if they were sealed during medieval times, let alone monster from completely different cultures?

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    11 күн бұрын

    Tsundereplane is likely a toy plane which is possessed by a ghost (it explodes rather than turning to dust and also can respond to the narrator in checks which Napstablook also does)

  • @arishachoudhury_
    @arishachoudhury_21 күн бұрын

    THANK YOU I WAS WONDERING

  • @Adhamadous
    @Adhamadous18 күн бұрын

    they were ghosts who kept possessing stuff turning into monsters and the next generations being exactly like them source : trust me bro

  • @TheSkyGuy77
    @TheSkyGuy7721 күн бұрын

    (super crazy theory ahead 😂) What if one of those human magicians was the one who created them? One who was very very interested in a experimenting with souls. Created an underground facility to conduct these experiments in secret. For what purpose..? To rule the world. Someone, though, found out. And the other humans attacked the created monsters in fear. The monsters then retreated to the place they originally came from. Some time later, this soul magic wielding person was also thrown into Mt. Ebott. (Crazy theory, probably missing a lot of details and whatnot. But hey, thanks for reading)

  • @jacobcostanza2772
    @jacobcostanza277221 күн бұрын

    There is only one tiny thing you missed. You implied that monsters are entirely made of magic but in the game it does say that they do have some physical matter. They just don't have as much as humans do. The problem with the Amagalmates is that they lost what physicality they had and became blobs of magic. But besides that small nitpick, you made a great video!

  • @aresrivera9744
    @aresrivera974420 күн бұрын

    So when it comes to humans using magic I don’t think they can at least not magic without a mediator. Hear me out. frisk can use magic in the game but it’s in the form of an item called the hush puppy. When frisk eats it the spell activates. Frisk isn’t using magic, but instead is using an item as a conduit if you get what I’m saying. And our only shots of the wizards are with the staff casting a spell which technically isn’t that much different from Frisk eating the hush puppy. What I think is that it’s a manifestation of determination. We know from asriel’s boss fight that determination can just summon physical items out of nothing and have them accomplish a certain goal . So what if the magicians were just doing that to create objects that had the spell built in like the hush puppy. It would seem like magic to everyone else but as stated in the true lab, it’s just soul power and soul power for humans is determination seemingly.

  • @RedCyclone-in5ly
    @RedCyclone-in5ly22 күн бұрын

    I have this theory that humans do in fact have magic but it isn't elemental like monster magic maybe its more of emotional magic so for example a person with kindness magic can just make anyone passive by being themselves they're so nice that you can't bring yourself to kill them or a person with bravery can scare off people who are less brave than him or even someone with justice inspiring other people to help them or follow them even if they have disagreements or dislike eachother but are united by justice maybe sparing someone is magic because it does require pacifying the monster in some way because no matter what you do just sparing an enemy shouldn't make that enemy just become friends with you maybe they'd surrender if pressed but they wouldn't just straight up like you so maybe after doing a specific set of actions humans can cast a spell (spare) which pacifies an enemy so they can't keep having ill intent towards you or even maybe immobilize them and maybe fighting is just uses the same concept but by evil/aggressive people

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Hmm so it’s like a bridge between magic and soul power?

  • @Hanzlolz-yy9ct
    @Hanzlolz-yy9ct22 күн бұрын

    Nice vid!

  • @TheSoph_
    @TheSoph_20 күн бұрын

    🔥🔥ANOTHER ONE🔥🔥

  • @nneykobar_hali
    @nneykobar_hali18 күн бұрын

    How would thay know about "no aging when no son or father" if there never was a fatherless boss monster before(exept for asgore , but he couldnt had a father to confirm that he would age)? +"two races lived on earth" implyes times of co-existing , which supports idea of asgore being not the first one. +i belive "bullet patterns" phrase means just that magic comes to monsters as natural as bleeding to us. They are made of the thing! We see them use magic not for atacks repeatedly throuout the game. Toriel cookes with fire , Sans Sanses around , papyrus gets hold of seemingly endless amount of bones to gift to undyne , muffet muffets spiders into pastery(i hope it is magic) these are just things i can name of the top of my head. Humans can use magic , its just hard for them and requires studying , prsctice , magical parents, charisma and whatever else dnd-flawored stuff is on the table. Not for comon human to just do magic wherever just to express themselves. +saving and loading might be caused by lack of humans in the underground. As seen with omega flowey & Asriel god of hyperdeath , you cannot save and load in a presense of soul , more powerfull then yours. And seen with flowey loosing his powers the seccond we show up. This might be the reason. so i think that the "first generation of monsters was trapped underground" part complitely bonkers. but its an impotant part of internet theorising. heh. pluss from how monsters of the past speak of surface it seems that they shared more of a connection to it then "cozy birthplace" + i am not sure if human in starting animation(201x) is chara. not sure. not sure. i always interprited it to be frisk. I hope this disprooves parts of the theory i am disprooving. no problems with other parts. but i am a bit on side of "world might make sence within itself , we don't need for exemple an explanation to why combat is turn based there. it just is. this world just started like this or whatever" but goo i love non-bonkers theories. and i love finding holes in them. and i would love you to poke holes in my counter arguments!

  • @user-yj4sd1fz6n
    @user-yj4sd1fz6n22 күн бұрын

    Cool

  • @idioticlight
    @idioticlight21 күн бұрын

    i imagine that instead of just poofing into the existance the monsters were objects brought to life with emotion like dolls or clay statues (or just fucking rocks). similar to how ghost monsters can become corporeal and fuse with an object with enough emotion. also that maybe boss monsters required the sacrifice of another living being, like say, the classical sacrificial animal the goat. at first that was just a stray thought, but considering a boss monster makes their parent age to mature it could be that a mature boss monster requires the life force of another being. In reproduction this lifeforce is taken from the parent, in creation its taken from a sacrificed animal.

  • @michaeldoerrler2363

    @michaeldoerrler2363

    21 күн бұрын

    That sounds very similar to how darkners are created. Maybe there's a connection there?

  • @idioticlight

    @idioticlight

    21 күн бұрын

    @@michaeldoerrler2363 I mean the darkners and lightners dynamic is kinda similar to the ut monsters and humans dynamic

  • @natsu3270
    @natsu327021 күн бұрын

    would be a dope paralel with darkners in deltarune, since it "kinda" works similar??

  • @docriv6446
    @docriv644621 күн бұрын

    What is loxx based off of?

  • @seba2937
    @seba293722 күн бұрын

    an amazing theory. truly, it's a shame Toby did´t placed the moment when Chara falled down before the 2000, because that means the humans only came in 10 years, and the monsters wasn't so long trapped on the underground. i thinked Clover was from the 1880 or something like that, it could be a great date for his clothes.

  • @kingofdemons948

    @kingofdemons948

    22 күн бұрын

    It’s possible frisk fell in the 2100s

  • @PyroManiac753

    @PyroManiac753

    22 күн бұрын

    Chara fell in 201X. They said that in the genocide route.

  • @seba2937

    @seba2937

    21 күн бұрын

    Oh shit i forgot frisk didn't falled at 201X

  • @LittleDevilAkuma

    @LittleDevilAkuma

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the case of humans falling into the underground is... pretty odd. No human wanted to check a moutain that there's a whole history of two races about? Only some 8 children through a coinidentally short period of time?

  • @kingofdemons948

    @kingofdemons948

    21 күн бұрын

    @@LittleDevilAkuma you’re forgetting people say those who climb mount Ebbot disappear. People were probably to scared to check it out. Asriel asked frisk why they’d even climb the mountain due to the legends.

  • @5nightsatgengars830
    @5nightsatgengars83022 күн бұрын

    Nice video ❤❤

  • @markmark-wt8sd
    @markmark-wt8sd21 күн бұрын

    Lets talk about the birds and the flowers

  • @calebdemosthene284
    @calebdemosthene28422 күн бұрын

    7:08 one question,if it only unique to the underground then after frisk goes outside of the underground then they should lose the ability to save and load.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Oh boy you actually just got my brain cogs turning. So the only ending in which you actually leave the underground is the true pacifist. Obviously in this ending, it wouldn’t make sense for us to be able to do a true reset without returning to the underground. BUT hear me out. When flowery confronts us after the TPE he begs us to let frisk and everyone else live their life on the surface and closes with “see you soon Chara” (or whatever you named the fallen human). Since the barrier is destroyed and frisk is gone, it’s possible that Chara’s spirit is now the most determined being in the underground since they’ve been awoken through frisk (narachara theory). This would mean that for a brief moment after the true pacifist ending, the player leaves frisk and inhabits Chara’s body where their consciousness apparently still resides and uses their determination to complete a true reset. It’s definitely not a flawless explanation but I hope it suffices and it’s actually something I think could be made a separate video.

  • @calebdemosthene284

    @calebdemosthene284

    14 күн бұрын

    @awesomeandrewgames 1 frisk does leave the underground in a neutral run but I have a theory on why we are still able to reset.frisk does not save after they left the underground and so when we can still go back and redo the ending or reset back to the beginning.

  • @sambuujargalsaihan6101
    @sambuujargalsaihan610123 күн бұрын

    Hey is been long time no see i haven't saw you for 1 mouth

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    23 күн бұрын

    I got busy 😢 I’m back tho live tmr too

  • @miniwhiffy3465
    @miniwhiffy346522 күн бұрын

    Sparing is also magic, also good question we dunno where they came from

  • @connorbyers2415
    @connorbyers241522 күн бұрын

    I am happy to see someone has finally found that humans can indeed use magic in Undertale. The book on the shelf does not say humans cannot use magic; it says they cannot express themselves with magic. As for this theory, it's plausible that humans created Monsters, but this theory is improbable. In the Undertale world, there are deities mentioned between The Angel, that is the Monsters' God, as well the Christian God himself in very subtle ways. ( Such as Christmas and Santa Claus, and Flowey in the omega Flowey fight saying, "I only need one more before I become GOD." As well as the traditional name of hell, when Sans tells us that we should be burning in hell. Not to also mention the number 666 associated with Gaster.) Note: Flowey may be implying he will become A GOD, but the word A is not mentioned in what he says. This specifically tells me that he is talking about The Angel or God himself. It's more likely a deity created the monsters and humans than humans somehow having the power to do it themselves. I want to mention a few things, monsters are mostly made of magic, and monsters do indeed have a bit of physical material. Monsters in Undertale are based on Monsters in mythology in some of them. The Dreemurrs are basically built off of Pucas from Irish mythology. One last thing, the save and load function only being usable in the underground has contradicting arguments to be made. Humanity won the war against Monsters. When we play Undertale, we can see specific monsters are actually stat-wise stronger than our human protagonist. It's due to the save and load function that we are able to beat these foes because we memorize their attack patterns. Monsters have more potent attack and defense stats, alongside health. When we fight Asgore, Asgore has 3500 health compared to Toriel, having only 425 or 450. This suggests that Asgore has L.O.V.E., Killing the six humans before Frisk did level his health up. As well as we know monsters only use their full force due to their will to hurt. As for humans, once we get used to the bar to deal a lot of damage. If Asgore wanted to hit Frisk, he very well could since humans have such weak HP. Asgore lowered his attack due to wanting to avoid winning. Crap, if Asgore was angry on a genocide route, he may be a worthy contender after Sans to fight. Asgore's natural attack and defense are 80 and 80. He would only need to do 2-3 hits with level 20 of 99/99 to kill us. So, seeing that stat-wise, Monsters are naturally stronger, where am I going with the save and load function? If Monsters can kill, Frisk and Asgore can kill 6 humans with the save and load feature; how in the world did not one soul fall into the Monsters' hands? The save and load function had to be on the surface at least at one point 2000 years ago. Btw, Asgore has been ruling the Underground for 2000 years to be exact. Monsters were sealed underground between 0 A.D to 299 A.D. The war did not take place close to the 1400's.

  • @sambuujargalsaihan6101
    @sambuujargalsaihan610122 күн бұрын

    I can't access to discount because say email didn't exist

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    😢 why

  • @enchantedgoldenapple3290
    @enchantedgoldenapple329022 күн бұрын

    what is mk based off of?

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Dinosaur. Specifically trex due to their lack of arms (trexs have very short arms) Monster kid is also a child so I’d assume that their parents have arms and evolution realized they can’t use those arms hence why MK doesn’t have them (could also be a thing that grows in later)

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja1522 күн бұрын

    I found another member of the Archie squad!

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Yesssss

  • @TheGamerninja15

    @TheGamerninja15

    21 күн бұрын

    @@awesomeandrewgames :D

  • @paperprince2953
    @paperprince295321 күн бұрын

    Sans, Papyrus & Undyne were all boss monsters. As we already know from what you said, they are the only characters to not instantly die and give speeches. And Undyne didn't just survive because of her sheer DETERMINATION, i was playing the game and in one of the phone calls, Undyne literally calls her own fight as a "boss fight", she calls herself a boss. This word is only used for boss monsters. So their SOUL being heard or shown to be shattered is rather irrelevant

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    “A Boss monster’s SOUL is strong enough to persist after death” - waterfall sign “There are three known Boss Monsters, all of a total bloodline: Toriel, Asgore, and their son Asriel.” - the Undertale wiki There is a difference between a monster that is a “boss” and a “boss monster” and only these 3 meet the requirements because we see their souls persist after they die (remember that the soul persisting is different than someone being able to give a speech after the killing blow and when the skeletons and Undyne turn to dust their souls are instantly gone as well)

  • @paperprince2953

    @paperprince2953

    21 күн бұрын

    @@awesomeandrewgames hm. now that i really think of it now, you're right

  • @Marloweemery2013
    @Marloweemery201322 күн бұрын

    For a sec I thought you were underlab 💀 Anyways great theory!

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    20 күн бұрын

    Holy cow I’m honored

  • @calebdemosthene284
    @calebdemosthene28422 күн бұрын

    also why does the combo of a human soul and a monster soul specially when a monster soul absorb a human soul they become powerful enough to take on multiple humans.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    It would make no sense if the monsters were natural creatures but if you assume they were created by humans, it’s possible they were given the ability to absorb human souls because they were created for war with other humans.

  • @calebdemosthene284

    @calebdemosthene284

    14 күн бұрын

    @@awesomeandrewgames but that does not explain why the combo of a monster and human soul is many times more powerful than the sum of it parts

  • @SullyTheLightnerd
    @SullyTheLightnerd23 күн бұрын

    Toriel was the first ever monster. And since I couldn’t keep it in my pants me and her made many more monsters.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    23 күн бұрын

    Dude quit spoiling the video

  • @Idk4x

    @Idk4x

    22 күн бұрын

    🗿

  • @Goobert77

    @Goobert77

    22 күн бұрын

    Average sully comment:

  • @thechickenresistance
    @thechickenresistance21 күн бұрын

    heat flamesman tell me what this is based on

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Ooga booga me make fire

  • @TheSkyGuy77

    @TheSkyGuy77

    21 күн бұрын

    Sentient flames 😂

  • @Dustin-trustinO12
    @Dustin-trustinO1222 күн бұрын

    it's like in pixar universe.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Man what

  • @Dustin-trustinO12

    @Dustin-trustinO12

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@awesomeandrewgames In pixar movie brave, there's a witch makes a spell to make items alive, these items evolved into toys from toy story and cars from cars. pixar universe theory.

  • @Goat_Chest
    @Goat_Chest22 күн бұрын

    Cooked

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Omg it’s the chest of a goat

  • @WhiteCresentKnight
    @WhiteCresentKnight21 күн бұрын

    It would be a cool AU to have monsters be man made beings, but there’s no reason monsters can’t be naturally occurring like humans. And as far as monsters that are also machines or made object, there’s a precedent for objects to become inhabited by magic or magic will just form the shape.

  • @nneykobar_hali

    @nneykobar_hali

    18 күн бұрын

    i belive that monsters are naturazl and native to the world.

  • @sambuujargalsaihan6101
    @sambuujargalsaihan610122 күн бұрын

    I got sacred 😢😢😢

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Goat baaa

  • @axelperez2917
    @axelperez291722 күн бұрын

    Peak video. Though I have to say mostly... Why? In this hypothetical scenario why would the wizards create a species like that? Also, I feel like in Undertale, the monsters are like their own species instead of experiments, since the war had race war implications, like they just met each other and one fay war just broke out. This is specially true for Delta rune, where magic has been taking a backseat in the lightworld, yet monsters seem yo be thriving normally. Aside from that. I think you made a great video! While how you put the evidence together is still in need of some improvement, the evidence itself is pretty well researched and good! I hope tha you have a nice day.

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words! It’s possible the wizards created the monsters for war, hence why they grow powerful with a human soul, but the humans they were supposed to fight for got scared of their power and decided to fight them. Think of it like the Frankenstein story where people see Frankenstein’s appearance and assume he is a monster when he doesn’t have any ill intentions. You can still have your race war cake and eat it too, the theory only seeks to explain their origins, but obviously once the monsters are created the events still unfold the same had they not been created by humans

  • @axelperez2917

    @axelperez2917

    21 күн бұрын

    @@awesomeandrewgames Oh. Ok. That makes sense. I understand what you were going for now. I wish you luck on your soul theory!

  • @sambuujargalsaihan6101
    @sambuujargalsaihan610121 күн бұрын

    Sorry i can't join you 😔

  • @Gamety75
    @Gamety7522 күн бұрын

    why am i always late

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    21 күн бұрын

    Smh it’s cool we’ll pretend you’re on time I gochu

  • @Itsicedwater
    @Itsicedwater19 күн бұрын

    This theory is sigma skibidi rizzler and ohio!

  • @GOC7153
    @GOC715323 күн бұрын

    I am the firs- Nevermind

  • @awesomeandrewgames

    @awesomeandrewgames

    23 күн бұрын

    Second

  • @GOC7153

    @GOC7153

    21 күн бұрын

    Wait.. so technically if we labeled Generations the same in Undertale as we do on this Earth. Assuming that Chara fell in 2010 and Frisk fell in 2110. Chara and Asriel would be Gen-Z's, while Frisk would be a... future Gen-E or Gen-F?

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