SOURCES: Call for a "United States of Turkic World:" www.aa.com.tr/en/world/turkic-council-eyes-forming-united-states-of-turkic-world/2192579 Turkic World Vision 2040 document www.turkkon.org/assets/pdf/haberler/turkic-world-vision-2040-2396-97.pdf Erdogan calls for Northern Cyprus to join Org of Turkic States: www.trtworld.com/turkey/erdogan-calls-for-turkish-cypriot-membership-in-turkic-council-51598 TRT World video about the Turkic Council: kzread.info/dash/bejne/enqez6lulavfpbA.html Article explaining the myths about Turanism: hungarianfreepress.com/2018/11/25/hungary-is-now-part-of-the-assembly-of-turkic-speaking-countries/ Remarks from the Speaker of the Hungarian National Assembly : hungarytoday.hu/kover-addresses-parliamentary-assembly-of-turkic-speaking-countries/ Orban's remarks calling Hungarians Huns and a Turkic people: hungarytoday.hu/orban-hungarians-are-late-descendants-of-attila/ ERRORS: Apologies for pronouncing "Kyrgyzstan" as "Kyrgyzistan!"

@larrywave

Жыл бұрын

Mongolian isnt a finno-ugric language

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@larrywave no, it's not. I know better now. 🙂

@larrywave

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell good 😁as there is lot of racist history behind calling finns Mongolian 😅

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@larrywave Totally. I didn't mean to add to that!

@larrywave

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell no hard feelings 😇

Love the turkic brothers! Sons of attila!🇭🇺

@SamiddinRaxmatov

10 ай бұрын

Love our Atilla grandfather's sons😊❤

@oghuzkhan5117

7 ай бұрын

Hajra Turan

@ModernTURKCU

4 ай бұрын

🇹🇷❤️

@bucurescu.

Ай бұрын

You are white central Europeans you have nothing with turks 😭😭😭😭😭

We wont stop trying to score a goal just because there's a goalkeeper in the way. Greetings to all my Turkic brothers and sisters from a Crimean Tatar. 🐺🐺🐺cCc Almighty Turan cCc 🐺🐺🐺

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for for comment!

@aaaa_10

2 жыл бұрын

🇹🇷❤️☪️👋 Greetings from Turkey.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaaa_10 Hello!🙋 Thanks for watching!

@yusufbozdag9567

2 жыл бұрын

Seviyoruz sizleri 🐺

@khagan5951

2 жыл бұрын

Qırım yaşasın!

Rise up my Turanic Brothers!!! 🇦🇿🇹🇷🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬

@trols2en

Жыл бұрын

🇹🇷🇦🇿🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬🇹🇲🇭🇺

@mohammedahves9144

Жыл бұрын

U need to include Afghan Pakistan man

@muhammaddinqodirov1748

Жыл бұрын

We're here👋👋🤝

@muhammaddinqodirov1748

Жыл бұрын

​@@mohammedahves9144 and more others))

@mohammedahves9144

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammaddinqodirov1748 Chechnya dagistan Bangladesh Baltistan dhagestan all of Central Asia

I would love to see this, I am from Turan Qazaqstan 🇰🇿✌😎:).

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

You would love to see a United Turkic States? Would you want it to be the same countries as are currently in the Turkic Council, or would you like a different group?

@Zhalghas-YZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Yeah, I love to see it 👀.

@muberrazeyrek8871

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Hi, I watched the video a little late, so my comment would be late. I want to add something actually a mistake made by many researchers. When the events aren’t viewed from a very broad perspective, many things can be left in purgatory. Turks haven’t been trying to unite for the past few years. This is actually a very long-term adventure. 30 years ago, when the Turkic states became independent, we took the opportunity to communicate again. First, the period of getting to know and understanding each other began. We didn't even know how close our languages were because the alphabets we used were different. Incredible work has been done on this for the last ten years. Most importantly, thousands of Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Azeri, Uzbek and Turkmen students have been educated in Turkey. There are many people who come to our country to work. It wasn’t difficult at all to get together with the effect of sharing a common language and religion. If you asked 10 years ago if it was possible for the Turkic states to unite, I would probably have said no.However, we can say that this won’t be a dream since we’ve learned that there are artificial boundaries between us and started to remove them one by one from our way. It is only necessary to determine how and which level this merger will take place. We, as Turkey, have apparently been trying to be a part of Europe for 60 years. No matter how many mistakes we have, it is a fact that the other party has never been sincere towards us. Why shouldn't we spend effort on this issue with our relatives who are hungry for development and have a lot in common?

@Ferahtub

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell it would be good if current Turkic countries unified.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@Ferahtub Do you think it will happen? When?

Love ❤Turkic states from Uzbekistan🇺🇿

@ModernTURKCU

4 ай бұрын

🇹🇷❤️

Thanks for video, greetings from Azerbaijan! As a liberal democrat, I want the establishment of the Turan state, not as a threat to others, but only to protect ourselves and to develop economically very quickly. What is happening in the world today shows that our world is heading towards polarization. We must unite for a free and secular life in order not to be eaten by another great state again. In ancient history, Turkish states were at war with each other, but they always knew how to unite against external threats. I hope in the near future we will again be united in a single great state

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I think a wider Turkish union based on liberal democracy sounds great. For all of its faults (which there are many) the European Union has provided a real incentive for the expansion of liberal, democratic systems of government. If there was a Turkic version of this that provided similar incentives to Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Central Asia I think that would be a great help to the entire world.

@yusufs1878

2 жыл бұрын

Güney Azerbaycan’ı nasıl halletmemizi önerirsin İran’a bir tehdit teşkil etmeden?

@suluklu

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell sounds great under democracy and a block iss needed a 3rd block for more balance around the world

@vizibilibende5194

Жыл бұрын

Respect to turkic country from 35 million south Azerbaycaninan türk 🐺🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇬🇰🇿🇦🇿🇹🇷🐺

@fugenturkoglu

10 ай бұрын

Tam olaraq mənim qardaşım ❤

Ties between Turkic countries is not only linguistic and you cannot compare it with Indo European speaking countries not even close. The ties between Turkic countries (Turan) is more comparable with the ties between UK-AUS-NZ-US

@s.oeksuez6472

Жыл бұрын

& CA

@baybarshan2500

Жыл бұрын

@@s.oeksuez6472 Canada was a former French colony not British one and in Canada you also have French speaking parts.

@neslisultan

Жыл бұрын

He’s American. He could never understand us or our culture or history as much as he’d like to.

@babyhereza6023

Жыл бұрын

Hungarian language is contains 27.8% words

@Sebastian-vg9nt

9 ай бұрын

Not exactly, the mentioned countries speak all the SAME language, turkic countries not. But they are pretty close though and many words are the same.

Hungaria is a Finno-Ugrian language, but it contans numerous Turkic words . In fact , t's possible to create entire sentences in Hungarian which consist of Turkic words .

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's surprising. Do you think Hungarian speakers are aware of this - that their language contains Turkic words? Or is it something that's normally forgotten (like how lots of words in English come from French)?

@robertberger4203

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Many Hungarians are aware of this . The original Hungarians came from western Siberia , and the Khant and Mansi, hunters, fishermen and reindeer herders with mongoloid features but with some Caucasian admixture , still live there . These are the two closest languages to Hungarian, but Hungarian has been separated from them for so long they are not at all mutually intelligible. But if you compare these three languages the similarities in vocabulary are obvious . Long ago, the Magyars separated themselves from the ancestors of the Khant and Mansi peoples , adopted a nomadic lifestyle and mixed with various Turkic peoples . This is how Hungarian, a Finno-Ugrian language, absorbed all those Turkic words . Hungarian, Khant and Mansi make up the Ugrian branch of the Finno-Ugrian language family . But there are only about 30,000 Khant and Mansi left and their languages are very close to extinction as they all speak Russian .

@microbus432

Жыл бұрын

@@robertberger4203 you're on the right path mate but still very far from the truth.

@SedatKPunkt

Жыл бұрын

As descendants of steppe warriors I count them as a Turkic tribe. The Bulgars have also been a Turkic tribe from Asia. But their culture and language got heavily slavicized (slavisiert).

@LalaLa-ze7kv

Жыл бұрын

@@SedatKPunkt Bulgars were not slavicized they mixed with tatars and now call themselves Volga Tatars. While those people who call themselves Bulgarians only took their name kinda like french did.

The Turkic super state will emerge as it always has time and time again throughout history. Don’t worry we are not surprised you don’t understand our history but I think we’re all grateful you made this video and that you could speak so openly and unbiased about the situation. Lots of challenges ahead but Turks love each other so we will hope for the best.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. 🙂 When were the previous Turkic superstates you refer to?

@erendogan7317

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell probably refering to ottoman times but ottoman was captured under heavy islamic influence beginning 15th century and lost its Turkic mindset till Ataturk has revived it I dont consider turanism a good idea but a trade and a culture corridor will help turkic nations live in a better world

@oguzmergun

Жыл бұрын

@@erendogan7317 huns gokturks ottomans uigurs may i mention more ?

@kiorman6248

Жыл бұрын

There was a previously 16 turkic super states (otherwise known as turkic empire )

@nadirhikmetkuleli7335

11 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell 1-Xiongnu Kaghanate 2-Turkic Kaghanate 3-Mongol Kaghanate ( non-turkic rulers) 4-Timurid Empire

Hungary turkic and im from🇭🇺 Old Hungarians: Culture,Dna,language = turkic we have nothing to do with the Finns 😅

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I think ancient linguistic ties, real or imagined, is a bad foundation for international relations, and DNA is even worse. I don't doubt there might be some similarity in culture between the former Ottoman Empire and an eastern European country, and that's a great thing, but I doubt it comes from a shared ancestry on the plains of Manchuria ten thousand years ago!

@goktugkzlok3082

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Yeah! right. It's a bad foundation to base an international relations right ? based on linguistic ties! You mean like EU ? alright!!!!!! Do you realize that Swedish and a Portuguese, Irish and Greek, Italian and Estonian basically share NOTHING. They don't even understand each other. A bit. While most Turkic languages are literally intelligible differentiate from like %20 up to %90+. While Hungarian might be bit different which it is but still there are a lot of shared culture and heritage. As it is like rest of the Turkic group have heritage from Eurasian nomadic groups. And "surprisingly" including Hungarian all these languages share almost identical grammar and linguistic rules. And basically they all originate from almost the same region. But it's all "coincidence" :) And it's all "DEBUNKED" like you mention in the video right!!! Because eurocentric/western so called researchers says so... Sureee. Also DNA has never been the main point of Turkic history. Turks of Anatolia or "Turkish" basically Anatolian natives mixed with Turkics it's not a secret and literally doesn't change anything. You can also research about the genetic researches about ancient central Asian Turkic peoples. Most significant findings was about that over %50 of their DNA was already literal Caucasian. Because Turkics were basically the people that emerged as the final product of Eurasian steppes. And Caucasian nomadic groups like Scythians etc. all have merged into Turkic group. I mean THAT'S basically what "Turkic" is. The reason I'm talking about this.... Well like I said it's never been about "DNA" it's lingua-cultural heritage group. And lastly if any of these means "nothing" for you and isn't a base for anything. Than why does even there is a thing called "european" as majority of them doesn't even share a culture, or intelligible language, or even history-heritage. I mean they are part of same super-lingual group of "Indo-European" but that's literally means nothing as it's basically most wide spread and unrelated linguistic group on earth. And Turkic by definition is actually closer to sub groups of that group like "Germanic" for example or "Slavic" etc. And this btw is whole another subject but by comment already become too long so I'm gonna cut it here.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@goktugkzlok3082 As far as I know, the EU has never at any point claimed to be based on any linguistic ties. How could it, as it includes languages as diverse as Portuguese and Estonian? Or why would it want to? The EU was founded on commonly held political values, like democracy, but that's not linguistic and doesn't even need to be cultural. I'd say the primary aim of the EU has been to stop future wars among its members, which just happen to be together in Europe, so I guess the primary tie is geography. I don't have any problem with the Organization of Turkic States pursuing integration. I don't think it will get very far as long as most members are led by autocrats, but I could be wrong. And whatever they do, it would be great to see the member nations become more democratic and free (which is what I would say about any country in the world, including my own). Thanks for watching and commenting!

@blgram

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Magyars are not Turkic, however there are significant Turkic people in Hungary. Cumans, Pechenegs and some other Turkic tribes ended in Hungary. They have been living in Hungary for centuries, some of them have lost their identity and blended into Magyar culture. Some families are still aware of their Turkic decent.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@blgram That sounds more realistic to me, and I think it's an interesting bit of history. I don't think it's a strong enough basis for a political union (on its own) but still interesting. Thank you and thanks for watching!

Tenri Biz Menen ! Greeting to all of my Turan broters and sisters !

@pontianforests

Жыл бұрын

Cringe

@baybarshan2500

Жыл бұрын

@@pontianforests Are you gay ?

@pontianforests

Жыл бұрын

@@baybarshan2500 ya sus be :D Tanrı bize menemen yapsın yazmaya devam et Internette

@gulhayali

Жыл бұрын

@@pontianforests 😅

@xdd87

7 ай бұрын

Kes pontus dönmesi.@@pontianforests

In sha Alloh, Turon birlashajak!

@oghuzkhan5117

7 ай бұрын

In Sha Allah...Selam Turkiyeden

ORGANIZATION OF TURKIC STATES WILL BRING PEACE AND JUSTICE TO THE WORLD❗️

@heaven-earth108

15 күн бұрын

.....as your bloody history have shown ?

Fantastic editing, Fredo! I really like the flow.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks. I'm not really sure what I'm doing when it comes to editing so that's nice to hear.

Turkic languages are much more like germanic languages, or Latin languages, sometimes it more like dialects than different languages even. Its quite a close connection and many of the central Asian Turks don't want to be under Russian nor Chinese controll, a turkic power sphere would be great for everyone

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I've learned from another source that these languages are more mutually intelligbile than I had thought when I made this video. I do understand the desire not to be under Russian or Chinese control and that's totally understandable!

@Sedatyunus

Жыл бұрын

Turkic languages are pretty close to Japanese In terms of Grammar.. and Spanish in terms of pronunciation

@yuksak

Жыл бұрын

it depends. if you compare siberian turkic with turkish turkic, then yeah it’s like germanic, latin languages. but if you compare turkestan’s (central asia) turkic with caucus and turkish turkic, then it’s more like hispanic, arabic dialects.

@ArdaSReal

Жыл бұрын

@@yuksak but siberian and turkish is litterily as far apart as possible its the opposite sides of the spectrum, for that it is still farily close i would say

@Ashixai

Жыл бұрын

@@yuksak No Turk who living in Siberia their dialects looks like Mongol language and some mongol words.

Hungarians are Turks, their ancestors are Turks!

Fredo Rockwell. There is something you cannot understand about Turks (all Turkic peoples) and their languages. Let me illuminate you a little more on the issue. Except minor and marginal Siberian Turkic languages, main Turkic languages of Central Asia and Western Asia form a dialect continuum. Within this dialect continuum, there are three main subgroups. Oghuz Speakers : Turkey, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan Karluk Speakers: Uzbekistan and Uyghurs Qypchak Speakers: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tatars and Bashkirs. Speakers of each subgroup can understand speakers of their own subgroup better. An Anatolian Turkish speaker will do fairly well while speaking to an Azerbaijani Turkish speaker. An Anatolian Turkish speaker will have some difficulties while speaking to a Turkmen speaker, not as much as while speaking to a Karluk speaker though. An Azerbaijani speaker will do fine while speaking to both Anatolian Turkish speaker and a Turkmen speaker. A Karluk speaker will understand other Karluk speaker fairly easily. A Karluk speaker will have difficulties while speaking to an Oghuz speaker, but he will understand the main issue in the dialogue. A Karluk speaker will also have difficulties while talking to a Kypchak speaker. But a Karluk speaker can be understood considerably by both an Oghuz speaker and a Kypchak speaker who two cannot understand each other. An Oghuz and Kypchak speakers will recognize words here and there and half or more of a sentence many times but it will not make a whole conversation. That means speaking Turkic gets difficult as distance increases. Karluk is a bridge between Kypchak and Oghuz, A Karluk speaker can understand both subgroups, Both subgroups can understand a Karluk speaker more than they can understan each other. That is the general picture. Let's write a sentence in each subgroup and its members. Compare the linguistic material. It will make you understand the situation better. For purpose of ease, I will use standard Turkish orthography. Children write our language using Latin alphabet at school. OGHUZ SUBGROUP: Standard Turkish: Çocuklar dilimizi okulda Latin alfabesiyle yazıyorlar. Dialectal Turkish: Uşaklar dilimizi mektepte Latin alfabesi ile yazıyor. Azerbaijani: Uşaglar dilimizi mektebde latin elifbası ile yazır. Turkmen: Çagalar dilimizi mekdepde latın elipbiyi bile yazyar. KARLUK SUBGROUP: Uyghur: Balilar tilimizni mektepte latin elipbesi bilen yazidu. Uzbek: Boleler tilimizni mektebde lotin elifbosi bilen yozedi. KYPCHAK SUBROUP: Kazakh: Balalar tilimizdi mektepte latin alfaviti men jazadı. Kyrgyz: Baldar tilibizdi mektepte latın alfaviti menen jazat. Tatar: Balalar tilibizni mektepde latin elifbası bilen yaza. Bashkir: Balalar tilimizni mektepte latin alfaviti bilen yeze.

@merkezbilim5839

Ай бұрын

Abi ilk önce bukadar detaylı anlattığın için teşekkürler ben Türkiye Türküyüm bu arada. Helal olsun sana.

By the way, I would like to point out that being ruled by autocracy has never been a problem for Turks throughout history. Turks have always needed a leader and his knowledge, skill and direction to unite. Democracy is like a 3 size bigger outfit that has become a fashion later on. For this reason, unlike western societies, it is more valuable to act as a community rather than as an individual. Thanks for the video

Although Hungarian isn't a Turkic language, there is a common historical connection. Both are descendants of Steppe peoples with a strong corresponding culture. Hungary has also absorbed historical Turkic peoples such as the Cumans and Avars into its genomic pool. This alliance is not based solely on language, although the name may imply this.

@FredoRockwell

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your considered comment! Most of the comments I have about Hungary on this video are quite angry at me for doubting the connection. I don't personally think it's important, or necessary, for nations to have a common genetic heritage to form deeper cooperative relationships. If Hungary and the Turkic nations have a cultural affinity, and it is strong enough to build bonds between them, then that sounds like a great thing. I guess I just find it odd to insist there's a strong genetic/linguistic connection (when at best there is a weak one) and THEN say this justifies cooperation. Just my thoughts, anyway! :)

@g.t.539

9 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Thanks for your response. I think I didn't express myself clearly enough. Of course, a genetic relationship is not necessary for cooperation. However, it seems that there is a wing within Orban's party (former Jobbik politicians and symphatisers) that does value that. I mean to say that in addition to the alleged language connection and the pragmatic intention, common origins are also the reasons for Hungary's entry into this alliance. And of course Hungary is not political and ideological homogeneous. So it's not surprising that some Hungarians, who would like to see themselves as native European, get angry when you talk about anthropological similarities with Eurasian people.

@darkprofile

7 ай бұрын

​@@FredoRockwell Turk identity is not based on ethnicity. Ethnich racism and ethnic nationalism is european invention. Turks built kind of nomadic federation in central asian steppes. Then spreaded to the east and west. They always built multi ethnic empires and mixed with other races. But Turks are connected to each other by Turkish language and culture. This is why when Hungarians want to be part of Turan no other Turkic country or nation has a problem with it. Because we see them as descantents of nomadic steppe people which as in Turkic confedaration thousands years ago. A Turkic superstate would be pretty strong balance power against China and Russia in Asia. And if Turkic Union will become stronger even Koreans and Japaneese people can join this alliance. Because they are not Turkic but They also have friendly ties with Turkic world especially with Turkey...

@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283

Ай бұрын

​@@darkprofileTurks are also bound by blood dude

@darkprofile

Ай бұрын

@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 The ones who think that he is pure turkish is an ignorant person. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk told "how happy who says I am Turk." he didn't say "how happy who born as Turk". Turkish nation has built multi ethnic imperials from central asia to east europe. Turks are a confederation of central asian tribes. Turks are not a single ethnic idetity based on blood. Who claim he is Turkic by genetics he must get a surprise by making a dna test.

I got to into history as a hobby about 10 years ago. Never paid much attention to Turkic history outside of the Ottomans, but jesus christ these Turks may actually have the biggest imperial history on earth. I ended up researching over 40 empires that they created from Korea to Morroco.

@keteket

3 ай бұрын

truth🫢

@azizsipahi8332

2 ай бұрын

İki Türk bir araya gelse devlet kurar diye bir anlayışımız vardır.

Great analysis. I am really thankful for your sharing this. not only he facts and history but also your opinions very sound and well ellaborated. thanks indeed.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your really kind comment!

7:05 Indians, persians and europeans lost their links like 5 thousand years ago, however, Turkic peoples were still united on 6th century. Turks are more like an ethnic group like Latin or Germanic, that belongs to recently researched "Transeurasian" linguistic family

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

I don't doubt there may be stronger cultural connections between Turkic people. But I doubt they're as significant as some politicians like to make it sound. The 6th century was a long time ago!

@Berkh

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FredoRockwell well I agree but the connections are really way more higher than the indian-german or persian-british link, especially linguistically. many traditions never changed and the idea of a political unification always stayed alive on different places. Nader Shah was a great example, he said Ottomans, Afshars and Mughals (descendant of Timurids) are originated from one nation called "Turcoman" and this nation has to unify. Nader Shah was an important ruler of Persia. also Ottomans sent military supplies to Uyghurs on their rebellion. when we look at Uyghur coat of arms and the Uyghur flag, its same with the Ottoman coat of arms and Turkish flag, just blue edition. thats the reason of it.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@Berkh I feel conflicted about this idea, to be honest. I think it's very encouraging to think the Uyghurs will receive support from other Turkic governments. It is wrong for them to be ignored, and it makes sense for Turkic nations to be most aware of their plight. At the same time, I think ethnicity is a really bad thing to found a country on. It's way too easy for ethnically based states to treat minorities badly. Also, I genuinely think the principles of good government and human rights transcend ethnic/cultural backgrounds. Or at least they should. :)

@Berkh

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell I agree. I support some sort of confederations or mechanisms like EU, EU is a great example of a unity which is based on historical or even genetical ties but acting without opressing the ones who are not European but living in Europe. I kinda want the same for Turkic nations.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@Berkh that I totally understand, and there are huge benefits from lowering barriers between countries in a region. Let's hope there is a democratic foundation in Turkey and central Asia up do this soon!

Fredo Rockwell,Emeğin için teşekkürlerimi sunarım.Ama bir şeyi gözden kaçırdın sanırım.Biz Türkler olaya dinsel olarak bakmayız.Çok az kesim öyledir onlara da saygı duyarız.Türkler olaya ırksal olarak bakarlar.Öyle olmasa idi bugün Moldova'nın içerisinde bulunan Gagavuzya ile ve diğer hristiyan Türkler ile ilgilenmezdik.Bizi Avrupa Birliğin'den ayıran özellik ise olaya ekonomik olarak bakmamamız.Biz olaya duygusal olarak yaklaşıyoruz.Türkiye Türkleri ile diğer Türkler dost değil KARDEŞTİR.

thank you for this well made video.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Found your channel. Amazing stuff! Sub is done and I will watch probably every video haha.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad to have you aboard! Let me know if you like any of the previous videos. 😀

@zeke2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Looks like you are an expert about Somaliland ;)

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeke2408 It's definitely an interest of mine, but I wouldn't say I'm an expert by any means. But the next video I'm making is actually another about Somaliland...

Thanks for sharing it.

The path to democracy from autocracy is simply free trade, and this organization is bound to open that path to the central asian turkic states which are currently enclosed by russia and china, huge military and autocratic states.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Free trade can do a lot to promote democracy, and it would be great if the Organization of Turkic States had this effect. More economic freedom doesn't always lead to more democracy and civil liberties, however - just look at China!

@kdakan

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell That's true, there needs to be empathy and cultural ties between trading nations to ensure that one state does not empower the other, as in Germany vs Europe, or become a slave labour hub to the other one, as in China vs the west. I just hope this organization to bring more wealth and freedom to the citizens of the partnering states.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a great result! I know I am critical of Erdogan's policies, but I think Turkey is a better long term partner for Central Asian countries than Putin's Russia.

The Indo-European language is not an interrelated people, but if so, Turkish is part of the fold language family, which includes Koreans, Japan, Turks and Mongolian.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree about indo-European. That's my point actually.

@luongo7886

Жыл бұрын

@Эркин Мәмбэтҗан 🇰🇿 Қыйат 卐 Norway? Norwegians are a Germanic people, not an Altaic one.

@gulhayali

Жыл бұрын

I dont know why it is called Indo-European in english, which doesnt make sense historicaly, where as in German its called Indo-Germanic and the Persian a part of it as aryans.

@abdmzn

Жыл бұрын

​@Қазақ_Қыят卐قازاق_قيات Your basic ability to speak a language has little to do with your ability to understand its origins and history. Historians and Linguists spend years of their lives studying these issues, dismissing them as "westerners that don't speak our languages" is silly and ridiculous.

Great stuff. Fantastic video Fredo. Such an interesting topic! It will be really interesting to see how this evolves. Will Turkey try to dominate? And how will the others respond?

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! To me it looks like Turkey wants to play the "older brother" role in this group. I suspect the other leaders go along with this because they perceive an advantage in the arrangement. But I'm not convinced the relationships are as strong as they appear in the photo opps! It will definitely be interesting to see how things unfold...

@Tztimelord

Жыл бұрын

You want that right? You want Turkey to dominate. Looks like somebody missed Western fantasies of Ottomans.

@bigboyrambo2009

Жыл бұрын

@@Tztimelord Turkiye has a bigger population bigger economy and the only Turk nation that has access to the sea.

@celilgunes8698

Жыл бұрын

Turkey is the key of the world. It is the middle point of transportation routes, gas pipes and so on. Turkey will definitely will be the bigger brother as seen in Karabakh war and also the inherited Ottoman State wisdom and also the Khilafat. The wisdom is from Turkey. But this is not a dictators group but it is a long awaited historic moment. If you want a prove, you can search the from singer Barış Manço named Kayaların Oğlu. He stated even the year that will happen in his song as 2023 long years ago.

@JohnJohnson-lr3zu

Жыл бұрын

We would only be happy if Turkey rules. Turkey is our big brother. Unlike others, we appreciate our big brother Turkey. Because Turkey needs help from its brotherly countries. We will only help and love each other forever.

I am an uzbek from Afghanistan, here in afghanistan there are more than 7 million Uzbeks and turkmens which are located right behind Uzbekistan and Turkministan and it's my dream to get unified with my fellow Turks.

@xooos00

2 ай бұрын

🇹🇷🤍🇺🇿 birlashamiz

@umutkiran3035

Ай бұрын

İnşallah 🚩

@Altuntaa

4 күн бұрын

Afganistanı birliğin için almak saçma, çünkü afganlar da birliğin içine girer onun yerine sizi Türk ülkekerine almamız lazım diyorum

Exellent in depth analysis !! A feild people know little about

@FredoRockwell

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

This video wasss sooo good

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Did you watch it on double speed to finish it already?! :D

@paiwandibrahim3978

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell no I’m currently on 5th minute but so fun actually

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

I hope it keeps your interest!

Thank you for your detailed studies

@FredoRockwell

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for the interesting video but when it comes to the language comparison you made with Indi-European, it was a little strange. I'm from Uzbekistan and Turkic languages all are branches of the same family tree (Oghuz, Kipchak, etc). They sound very similar, have identical grammatical structures, have similar vocabulary and you'll find in many words just a single letter being different in Turkic languages. Especially Kazakh, Uzbek and Kirghiz people can make themselves understood when they talk with each other and a couple weeks enough to fluently speak.

@FredoRockwell

7 ай бұрын

Hiya, thanks for your comment. I've since changed my view on this issue in two years since I published this video. I understand that the languishes are more aligned than I realized. 🙂 My hope is to make an updated video on the next few months.

I just want to say Turkic languages are more like the Latin language group rather than Indo-European. If Turkic Council worked as you said it should have been called Altaic Council including Mongolia and the Tuvan Republic in Russia while Korea and Japan are observer states. Hungary is a far stretch both ways.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! I've learned from another source that these languages are more mutually intelligbile than I had thought when I made this video. I'm not sure Mongolian, Korean or Japanese are at all related to anything Turkic, though!

@Levo_D_Angelo

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell You are Turk too : kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJ6fm6mogZurpqw.html

@dsaddfgs1186

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell HUNGARİAN LANGUAGE İS COMPLETELY SAME GRAMATİCLY ON THE OTHER HAND İT İS COMPLETELY DİFFERENT LİKE WORDS

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

And this matters because...... ,🤨

This was a great video!!!

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Congrats on your monetization, btw!

are there other turkic countries that can join in future ?

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

There aren't any currently independent Turkic countries left to join, but if Russia was to break up (as many predict it may do now) there could be several new Turkic countries. Among them is Bashkortostan, which I've made a video about. There is also East Turkistan, which is now part of China.

Rise up Turks all over the world! Rule the world as your ancestors did in the past! Rise!

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Encouraging any ethnic group to conquer the world is a really nasty message. It would be more offensive of it didn't sound so silly. Instead I'd encourage Turkic people to do what I would advise anyone and everyone: be tolerant and peaceful and help make the world a better place. 🙂

huns are turk. It is not fantastic or anything, independent and impartial historians know that they are Turk.

Well this is very interesting.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it, so far!

As a hungarian, I can say that we have nothing to do with the turkic nations.

@FredoRockwell

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment! I can't tell you how many comments this video has had, angrily insisting that Hungarians are Turkic. I'm not sure why it's so important to these people, but I appreciate knowing it's not a widely held view in Hungary.

@SmokeyMountain0

6 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Some Hungarians hate Turks because of the Ottoman empire,but they dont know,Ottomans do not see themselves as Turks,they call themselves Millet(Nation) like the Roman empire they try to unite all the nations in the empire.

@xooos00

2 ай бұрын

Atilla, az Európai Hun Birodalom őse, az Ön alapítója. Így alakult ki Magyarország, természetesen nem fogunk könyörögni senkinek, hogy legyen török, csak kutassuk a történelmét, mert a világtörténelem során sok állam asszimilálódott. Lehet, hogy te nem vagy török, de Atilla török volt, és mindenki, aki meg tudja győzni Atillát, töröknek kell lennie. (bocsi lehet rossz magyar, ahogy fordításból írtam)

there is no connection between TRNC and Nagorno Karabkh. Pleasr don't try to fool people. Northern Cyprus was established after the genocide and coup attempt. Turkey used its guarantor right and saved the people of the island from genocide and coup according to international agreements. Also, Southern Cypriots rejected the Annan plan. There is no similarty between what happened above in Nagorno-Karabakh.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the issues don't seem related to you, and I mean no offence, but the justifications that the Armenian side gave for invading Azerbaijan and capturing territory in the 1988-94 conflict was to stop the persecution of ethnic-Armenians in Azerbaijan. One of Turkey's justifications for its invasion of Cyprus is, as you have just said, persecution of ethnic Turks in Cyprus. The issues are not directly related, but follow the same template. In both conflicts, both sides (Turks and Greek Cypriots, Azeris and Armenians) accuse the other of ethnic-based atrocities. If Greece gave military support to Cyprus to help it regain the territory Turkey now occupies, I'm sure Turkey would say this was unfair. To me, that's a glaring inconsistency.

@ercankement1

10 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Türkiye, Greece and the United Kingdom were guarantor countries in Cyprus. Greek officers and Greek nationalists staged a military coup in Cyprus. (Their aim was to unite Cyprus with Greece.) In 1974, Turkey launched a military operation against Cyprus. This operation is called (Atilla.) I think we have something in common with the Hungarians. :D

@cindemirlawofficecindemirh9900

19 күн бұрын

@@ercankement1 intentionally ignoring coup attempt, legitimate intervention approved by Greece and UN, Annan Plan. He intentionally neglects such facts. Armenian Cyprus issues are oranges and apples. There was a referandum organized by UN for unification. Armenia has never asked to Azerbaijanis But white christian supremacist motives you can sense in case that westerner insists on ignoring it. Its a sign of not being impartial due to white christian supremacist background.

maybe finally the world can see another bloc than europe. love the idea of turkic countries coming together

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I don't think splitting the world up into more and more blocs is the best course for the future, but I do think the countries of Central Asia would benefit from having another regional player in the mix other than just Russia and China. If the Turkic States can provide this, I think that would be great!

@Imjessieblake

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell then the european union should not exist in the first place

@Imjessieblake

10 ай бұрын

@@Wirsindimmernochhier 😂🖕🏼

Great video, Greetings from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

@FredoRockwell

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'm making another one in about six weeks. 🙂

The regimes are autocratic for the time being. Turkey was a full fledged democracy before Erdogan and will surely return back to her roots after he's gone. As for the other countries, they are still very young and look at Turkey as their role model. As soon as Turkey becomes a fully democratic country again, they will follow suit. As for the union of Turkic states, that sure would change the balance of things in the world.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I think a more democratic Turkey would be great for the entire world. Turkey is a really important country, both because of geopolitics and because of its position of leadership in the Turkic world. Let's hope things improve soon!

@direnius

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell couldn't agree more. Fascinating subject put together so well, BTW. Really enjoyed the video.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Greetings from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬

Ancient nomadic Magyars spent almost a millennium intermingling with the Scythians and the Oghur branch of the Turkic language family, and there were hundreds of thousands of Cumans who migrated to Hungary in the 1200s and 1300s, so there still is something more between them than “fantasy”

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Even if your account is true (and I don't think it is) I can't see why any of this would be relevant to modern politics. Hungarian language, culture, and religion have almost nothing in common with Turkey or other Turkic nations.

@darkprofile

7 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell How much a Bulgarian villager and a German worker has in common in culture, religion or language that they can build a european union and both are identified as European? The founder of modern Turkey Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has a quote. He said "how happy to the one who says I am a Turk". He didn't say "who is Turk, who has Turkish blood, who was born as Turk". So Hungarians are the descendants of Atila. In other european countries Atila means evil. In the world just Turkish Turks and Hungarians name their children as Atila. So It is obvious that Hungarians mixed with other races, their ethnicity changed, they have different religion. But we Turks show respect to their roots. And when they want to be part of Turan world we always wellcome them...

@FredoRockwell

7 ай бұрын

@@darkprofile The EU is not based on a common ethnicity or similarities in language. It's a group of fully democratic states with some very general shared values. There's nothing wrong in my opinion with Turkic states moving in a similar direction, but I don't think it will work if the members aren't democratic.

@darkprofile

7 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Who said the a union must be built on democratical values? And who said european union is democratical union?

@FredoRockwell

7 ай бұрын

@@darkprofile Me. And lots of other people. Autocracies make poor members of political federations, and most federations of autocratic regimes fail. Examples are the United Arab Republic and the Union State of Russia and Belarus. Autocratic leaders aren't generally willing to cede real power to a union, which is necessary for a union to be more than a talking shop. Autocratic rulers also tend to be wary of other autocratic rulers (and for good reason). Re the EU: being an established democracy is a condition of membership. You can argue that they aren't perfect democracies - which would be true - but each member holds regular elections and enjoys regular and peaceful transfers of power

Hungarians are Turanians, just like us Turks so they are our cousins. Therefore of course they are part of this council just like Pakistani Moghuls, Afgan Hazaras and Mongolians!🐺🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺

Thank you, finally an English language video about pan-Turkism! Of course, invasion of Ukraine changes some of the calculus of this a bit. Turkey is provided drones to Ukraine, so what does that mean for the Turkic states still within the Russian or post-Soviet sphere?....without Russia, landlocked Central Asia has no rail links to Europe. Iran could provide that access to the sea, however Iran is not Turkic (though about one-fifth of Iran's people, the Azeris, are Turkic) and Farsi-speaking Iran is suspicious of grand Turkic ambitions.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad you liked the video! I agree that the invasion of Ukraine changes things but I was thinking in a different way. Kazakhstan recent called on Russia to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine! Maybe Central Asia will speed up the process of finding new friends outside the CIS

@darkprofile

7 ай бұрын

After last Azerbaijan Armenia war, a corridor between Azerbaijan and Turkey was granted by Armenia. Iran see it as a threat and try to interven to stop it. If that corridor will be opened, all land locked Turkic states, their agriculture, oil and gas can transfered to Turkish ports and all Turkic world will have access to seaways from Turkey...

Why are there no Turkish subtitles?

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I don't know. I haven't paid for someone to make a translation and a subtitle file, but Google should offer an option for automated translations.

@pesetmekyokkacssart7483

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell No videos and subtitles about Turks? This is really annoying my friend. Please subtitles🙏

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you're annoyed, but this video was made before I knew how to add subtitles. If you can find someone who will translate the subtitles for free I'd be glad to add them. I've done this with videos about Russia, and volunteers have kindly agreed to translate subtitles for those into Russian and even Ukrainian. I'd also add Azeri, Uzbek, and the languages of the many other countries covered in this video. Some day when I have a lager budget I hope to make subtitles in many languages as a matter of course. 🙂

You are missing the point completely, The people of the member countries of the Turkic counsel feel and regard themselves as brothers uniting under TURAN !

appearence of a new turkic coalition would be a pretty big gamechanger in asian geopolitical structure and connecting those countries via land might somewhat impossible but if that is done then surely you might call it a superpower yet russia iran and in the end china would probably be in trouble as their sphere of influence would be much much more limited west might profit from it as the rivaling eastern block ex soviet and communist regimes would have to face another threat so some sort of support might be possible geopolitically speaking not openly maybe but under the table it can also be a stabiliser in the middle east as it will dwarf major powers like saudi arabia and iran and might put an end to the conflicts that are appearing randomly like mushrooms. if such thing happens ill rather want the capital to be in one of asian turkic countries not turkey but it looks like turkey would be the both military and economical powerhouse of this structure and turkey is having an economical crisis quite bad at the moment we dont have a lira to spend on anything.. yet still doesnt matter what political party comes to power turkish people in turkey might disagree on social or economic sides of the political view in the end everyone is a nationalist and every political party has to support this new organisation in order to keep people happy.. whether they do someting actually has a value or for a show i dont know but if in we are in it definitely.. btw looks like erdogan is going out of the office next year and opposition is quite democratic we might see some serious changes in the upcoming year with a new government

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your comment! I think a unified and strong Turkic state will need the individual members to be stronger first. The unrest in Kazakhstan is very worrying and I don't think things will become more democratic in the short term. It's great to hear that Turkey is becoming more democratic, but you are correct the economy is a big problem. And it's been a big problem for a long time. But let's hope things improve!

hello, sorry for that questions but I have to ask, why do you and many western as well youtubers always call the Central Asian republic as a former Soviet republics when you talk about Central Asia? BUT, we do not call countries like USA, India,Pakistan or Canada as the former countries of the former British Empire. It is true that the Soviets(Russia) ruled us for a little more than 1 century, but this doesn't mean we are still dependent on Russia and it has been more than 30 years since the fall of the Soviet state . By the way as a Uzbek I can easily understand turkish and kyrgyz (without learning these languages).... thanks

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Great question, and I can see how this would be annoying. I think this is partly just a habit that's developed over time. I'll try to stop. 🙂

@ahadjonolimjonov3756

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell that will be great, Thank you mr Fredo!

Good job, Fredo! Your most observations and comments are to the point. I have to correct one very important point; there is not such a thing like Azerbaijan Turk, Kazakh Turk or Ozbek Turk but just Turk! Those names intentionally address by Stalin for to divide Turkic Power. Therefore the general population of Turkic people quite more than noticed. For example 28% of Iran's population Turks! Therefore, direct Turkic people population is around 345M . Also, I believe this Turkic state will also lead all Islamic states as used to be in history, eventually! Rusia and Iran not a big deal for Turks but just matter of time but real fight will be between Turks and the encient enemy of Turks! Whom build the great wall to protect themself from Turks! However, neither USA, nor EU don't want such a powerfull Turkic state. Therefore, they ll do their best to divide the Turkic States after they done with China! Of course if they can figure it out how to exist till that time.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! I could be wrong, but aren't there languages the different Turkic groups you mention different from each other? Stalin may have created the Republic system in the Soviet Union, but I don't think he caused these different languages to appear. I know they have similarities, but being similar is not the same as identical. If there is a sincere attempt to create a democratic Turkic state I wish it well. I also suspect the US government would welcome a stable, democratic state in the heart of Asia. Thanks again!

@timestorm8246

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell not language but dialect is different! I was point out Turkish race not language, while mentioning Stalin!

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@timestorm8246 Okay, but the difference between a language and a dialect is subjective and arbitrary. I don't doubt that there are linguistic and cultural ties, but I don't think there's much meaning in saying that a thousand years ago the ancestors or one people were in the same group as the ancestors of another. It's historically interesting, but shouldn't be the basis for driving political change today

@timestorm8246

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell well, first of all even you mentioned that Turkish history goes back 2500 years ago which is not correct, know part is 5000 years ago 3000bc and unknow part is not clear but place is south of Siberia. Therefore, it's very normal to see that much dialect and severe differences among those dialect coz of other language effects! For example most common modern Turkish and Azerbaijan Turkish no need any translation but only a few days verbally practice. But I understand you, your most info comes from internet and like Wikipedia type sources, it's very normal. I strongly recommend you to turn on a Turkish tv and Azerbaijani tv. you could understand yourself both are same after 5 minutes listening!

I don't think either merging as a federal state would be possible. But the cooperation regarding economic and security issues will probably keep thriving with increased acceleration. Turkic countries merging? not likely; geopolitic bloc with military pact ? indeed.

Huge respect to Turkic countries from China 🇨🇳.

@halilefe6075

2 жыл бұрын

Bro you killing uyghurs

@halilefe6075

2 жыл бұрын

@@tim.2543 inner mongol? Uyghur is turkic man

@lichking9510

2 жыл бұрын

finally, a worthy opponent... 🤣

@luongo7886

Жыл бұрын

Yes, freedom and independence for East Turkestan and Inner Mongolia plus other regions. 😁

@era6519

7 ай бұрын

Greetings from Kazakhstan 👋

Iam nogai turk we are muslim Elhamdülillah

@tahabeksfk292

Жыл бұрын

@Erqĭn Məmbetdjan 🇰🇿 Q̆iat Қыят qandaysız qardashim

@Thechildofthemoon1

3 ай бұрын

We have brothers from every religion. We are not all muslims and genetics are more important than religion.

I feel like this organization could get a big boost or drawback depending on how well Turkey does in Syria this fall and what goes on between Azerbaijan and Armenia

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest boost would come from a weakened Russia, which is already happening. But this is a cause of the current conflict in the Caucuses so maybe I'm making the same point ...

@dreamcast3607

Жыл бұрын

@@necatkarasahin8544 right they better let China get a military base 😅

As a hungarian I can say it is a bit more complicated than that.We had so many wars with Turkey in the past 5-600 years..And Tukey took over Eastern Europe many times...(and our blood and languages mixed because many Turkish settled here ).And that is probably not 100%true that we came from the huns,but 100%we came from the Urals.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for leaving a more in depth explanation! What you are saying fits with what I've read since making this video - that there are Turkic elements in Hungarian but they probably come from cultural mingling rather than point to a Turkic origin for the Hungarian people. And, of course, as a Finno-Ugric speaking people, it would make sense if they originated in the Urals where there are so many other peoples today speaking similar languages (like Komi). But whether all of this ancient history is correct or not, do you think it forms the basis for Hungary to join a Turkic confederation?

@MIKRASIATISSA

Жыл бұрын

Turkic tribes faught with one another all the time according to the Chinese sources, and tbh, it makes perfect sense. These people were not like us modern-day civilizations, they wouldn't think the way we do now. Back in days, being ethnically, linguistically,culturally related to another tribe was probably not a big thing. Things may have worsened after converting from Tengrism. Magyars moved west and became Christians, while Oghuz moved from Caucasus to Anatolia and became Muslims. But yeah, it was loooooooong long time ago and we all intermixed with surrounding nations. Y'all became more Austrian, Slav, and we became more Greek, Armenian, Slav, Persian and Arab. We still have a lot in common, but can't really say we are one nation.

@xooos00

2 ай бұрын

​@@MIKRASIATISSAkızım senin Türk düşmanı yorumunu başka bir sitede görmüştüm cidden... Ve Türk olmadığını bu yüzden de Araplarla Ermenilerle yunanlarla katıldığımız yalanını söylüyorsun 😂 gizli olduğunu mu sandın??? Türk değilsin ve bu lafı bir Türk'ün yüzüne söyleyemeyeceğini biliyorsun çünkü biz Türk'üz ve sen kötü bir sahte hesapsın 🥺

7:08 surprisingly India has somewhat fine relations with all these countries. It is somewhat weird to think about but yeah.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

If I was India, that's what I would do. I don't know any details, but I saw Pakistani flags in some of the videos of state visits I searched through. It must be an important place to build alliances for India. If you can have good relations with all of them, that's a huge win!

@younggamer7218

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell yes that is definitely true. Mostly India wants geopolitical dominance over Pakistan.

@ChadPANDA...

2 жыл бұрын

As an indian I can say that main reason this government is trying to have some form of good relations because 1. Pakistan as pakistan is trying to gain support on "Kashmir issue" and to prevent india surrounding it and to prevent india from in general growing economic ties with the Stans (ex pakistan refused to let a natural gas pipeline from Stans to india eventhough it would benifit pakistan) so india is trying to counter pakistan 2. Natural gas - india wants natural gas and it is now trying to transport it from Iran ( it was proposed ig ) and in general increasing trade between the Stans and india

@younggamer7218

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChadPANDA... I can confirm as a fellow Indian. That's why I made this comment.

Great video, don't agree with everything but still a well researched video in which you reason your points in a good way. That said, the ties between Turkic peoples is a whole lot different than "Indo European". Turkic people aren't just related linguistically but also ethnically. We have similar cultures from the same origin, share the same history, we share a common mythology and past. We are a people splintered into many because of our nomadic past. We mixed, changed, adapted to the regions we settled in but we still feel connected. I do not think the Turkic council will turn into "Turania" soon but I can definitely see a EU light happening. Lighter on the loss of sovereignty. But tighter on millitary cooperation. And esp economic cooperation. In general tight economic cooperation strengthens the economies of everyone involved and makes them stronger against those outside of those intergovernmental organizations / economic treaties. I believe Turkey will have a somewhat democratization affect among Turkic countries. Erdogan is an authoritarian populist but he hasn't got much time left. And even then he is no dictator, still elected and with popular support. In turn I think other Turkic countries will further solidify Turkic secularism, albeit without alienating the conservatives. In the past 5 years there has been a dramatic shift. Previously Turkic nationalism and pan Turk ideas were mostly dominated by Turks from Turkey on the internet/youtube. The comment sections of video's about Turkic history etc were dominated by Turks from Turkey. The videos made by Turkish people. But nowadays most of the comments are a mix of Turkic people from all over the Turkic world. Videos and channels promoting Turkic unity made by people from all over the Turkic world. Turkish news videos have tons of Azerbaijani comments and comments from other Turkic people. Turkish videos about the army, music etc all full of comments from other Turkic people. After the fall of the USSR there has been a slow awakening of Turkic identities among former USSR lands. But in the past 5 to 10 years with this has had a rapid rise. Turkey's millitary successes, esp against Russia also help. Azerbaijan and Turkey have always been incredibly close. With sayings like "two states, one nation". But after Karabağ it's a whole different level. P.s. Ukraine also applied (and I believe was accepted) as an observer state for the Turkic Council. They point to the Ukrainian Tatars and the Crimean Khanate etc. as the reason.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your extensive comment. Since making this video I've learned more about the connection between Turkic cultures, and I'm aware now they're more connected than I realized. I hope you're right, and that the Turkic Council spreads democracy and turns into something like the EU. That would be great!

@revertrevertz5438

2 жыл бұрын

TBH I see more of the Eurasian Union developing further, before a Turkic Union can even be suggested. All central Asian states’ biggest builds es partner is Russia. The Turkic Council might work more like the Commonwealth, rather than a EU type of Union.

It seems all the world is going towards Super States, these organisations don't need to be same as the entities we know as governments but could be more like versions of European Union. For example there is a East African Union in the process and these unions seem to be the only path for prospering to smaller nations. Economic relations will be the deciding factor on the future of these proposed Super states.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a fair commentary. I suspect there will be more attempts to create economically integrated regions, and once economic integration gets entrenched political integration may follow. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Hungary has several connections to the Turkic world through more ancient tribal mixing (onogurs, partially avars) as they left the Ural Mountains and into Europe around 6th-9th century (adopted a Turkic script) so..not 10 thousand years ago and not through the Huns. + over a 100 year ottoman rule in 1500 and 1600s. So the ties are significant in my opinion. Quick linguistic comparison mostly derived from the ottoman rule: Zsebemben sok kicsi alma van Cebimde çok küçük elma var

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Do you think ancient genetic and linguistic connections are relevant to modern politics? For example, on this basis the UK should have especially close ties to German speaking countries. That would seem a bit silly to me, at least on that basis.

@baristurk8547

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell Let me tell you this: Pecheneg Turks, despite being Christians, changed sides and sided with their compatriots in the battle of Manzikert, which was the end of Eastern Rome.

@shomurodov_fan_page9254

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell dear fredo,If any historical script is ever to be found,lingustics first refer to hungarian to learn actual meaning in case these words arent found to be in other turkic languages

Also there have christian turkic peoples in Moıdova and their language extremly same in Turkish and Azeri language. They called Gagauz

Where are you from Fredo

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I live in the UK but originally I'm from Georgia in the USA. 🙂

@tahabeksfk292

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell wow you know Turk nations but some peoples dont know turk nations

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@tahabeksfk292 I'm no expert, but I do enjoy learning about Turkic countries. Make sure your watch my video about Bashkortostan! 🙂

17:46 the only? What about Wallachia and Moldva, about Serbia and Montenegro, about Germany and Austria?????

@FredoRockwell

8 күн бұрын

I made that video a long time ago. Can you explain your question a bit more? Thanks.

wonderful stuff! As a Hungarian i have zero clue why we are in this other than WW2 theories... i dont even know if we get any kind of benefit from it other than weird memes.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad you liked it! I wonder if the problems in Kazakhstan will undermine support for the Organization now. What do you think?

@UniquelyUnseen

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell At this stage, I'm not really sure. From what i gathered the whole Organization is materailly a bloc like the Nordic Council, and Kazakhs arent less Turkic.. the people may not really care.

@footballfan5462

2 жыл бұрын

Hungarians are 5 percent central Asian from kipchak and huns

@cultureofturk711

2 жыл бұрын

why not believe ???????

@footballfan5462

2 жыл бұрын

@@cultureofturk711 some Hungarians want to be accepted by Europe and reject their central Asian origin

I don't think it's fair to compare Turkic language family with the Indo-European one. For one, the latter is far too broad a term to derive any significant amount of meaning. You pointed it out yourself! Imagine comparing English, Indian and Farsi! That's ridiculous, they are far too removed! Indo-European shouldn't even be a language family. It is unlike any other in how broad it is.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Indo European languages are more diverse than Turkic ones. I would probably leave that out, or change it if I was making the video today. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Mongolian isn't Finno-Ugric, but a member of its own Mongolic language family. The hypothesis is only believed of by some Turanists (which also includes Korean and Japanese), which seems more and more unlikely as time goes. Great video still :)

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And fior the comment. To be honest, I didn't invest much time reseaeching Finno Ugric languages so thank you for the correction! This Turanism mythology is more pervasive than I realized!

@suntzu2812

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FredoRockwell ​ Who said Mongolian is Finno Ugric??? As a Turanist myself this is the first time I am hearing about this. Maybe you westoids need to learn that you are indeed as ignorant as how the world makes fun of you all! Finn-Oghur or Uralic or Finnish and Hungarian language group is its own thing. Mongolian was once scattered among these so-called Mongol tribes like native American tribes, no evidence exists before Genghis Khan. Korean and Japanese and Turkic languages belong to the Altaic group, which is the sibling group of Uralic languages. You dont even know what you are talking about and calling the theories "Turanism mythology". Disgusting.

@suntzu2812

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell There is a surviving Oghur Turkish tho, called Chuvash Turkish. Volga Bulgars and the first Bulgarian Empire had a large Oghur Turkish speaking population too. Guess what happened to them. Serbian Empire and Eastern Rome happened. Genocide, assimilation.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@suntzu2812 Thanks for watching! This is something I had heard long ago, but like Turanism, it appears to be based on a discredited linguistic idea. My apologies. Sometimes people just really want to be related to people they are not, and their wishes get mixed up with real history. Not that it is really in any way relevant to modern events, of course, but these pernicious ideas do still cause problems .

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@suntzu2812 Bearing a historical grievance from the Roman Empire is a bit extreme, don't you think?

Chinese chronics says that they named people living in the Altai Mountains at S.Sybearia Turk, this area is accepted as the source place of "R" DNA, so any person has R DNA as the majority of DNA is Turkic . Chinese chronics says Turks went west and east down to central Assia and united with tribes there and built up Turkic kingdoms.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. It's interesting to speculate about the origin of Turkic people, but do you think DNA or mentions of ancient Turkic people should be relevant to modern culture or politics in Turkic countries?

@shomurodov_fan_page9254

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell yes,at least for surviving

The Hungarian language is perhaps more Finno-Ugric than Turkish. On the other hand, the Turkish influence is so strong that the possibility of a creole or Turkic language has been suggested several times. Most of its basic words are of Turkish origin. In second place, the proportion of Finno-Ugric base words is 30-40 percent. 10-20% are words of Iranian, Indo-Aryan and Dravidian origin. Grammar was also heavily influenced by Turks. Perhaps half of the grammatical elements are of Finno-Ugric origin. This question is difficult to decide because the grammatical structures of the Turkish and Finno-Ugric language families are similar. The composition of the Hungarian gene pool is very interesting. 4% Far East (today's China and southern Siberia). 10% are of Northern Afghan origin, (Its belong to to the subcontinent of India, cultural and anthropological), 10% Middle East (today's Syria) 36% Central Asian (Turkish language influence) The 40% Scandinavian-Germanic gene pool was surprising to me. There is strong German linguistic influence for now days Hungarian language. Based on the gene pool, it may be older, perhaps Eastern Gothic and Gepids. Unfortunately, this seemingly innocent question has been completely politicized. The liberal side does not even want to hear about the East and Turkish kinship. The conservative side, on the other hand, views the West with suspicion, feels separate from it, and considers the East more of a relative.

A new Turkic state has already come to being but not yet announced!

My friend, the problem is that Western societies are obsessed with the idea that Hungarian people are not descended from Turks. But the fact is that the Turks are a society descended from Asian Hungarians. The ancestors of the Turkish society are Ephthalites. That is why the Anatolian Turks consider Attila as their ancestor. Finno-Ugric, on the other hand, is the common language of societies of Mongolian origin. Although Hungarians are from this family group as a language structure, they are part of the common heritage of the Turkish society that forms the Ural-Altay language family. The Turks call it TURAN, this ideology includes not only the Turks, but also the Mongols, Finns, Koreans and Japanese. The reason for its coverage is due to the fact that societies from the Ural, Altay and Ugric branches have developed a common way of life and culture for thousands of years. The greatest examples of this are Attila, Genghis Khan, Timur and Hulagu Khan. These leaders were not only the leaders of Mongolian societies, but also the leaders of Turkic societies. Turkish and Mongolian languages are well spoken leaders.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

My friend, hardly anyone in "the west" has any idea that people think that Hungary might be a Turkic country. There's barely anything written about this in English. Also, only crackpots and racists think that what tribe might have a genetic relationship to another tribe thousands of years ago is politically relevant today. The idea seems absurd to me, and I suspect to most people in Europe and North America. I have ancestors from several European countries, and I think this is mildly interesting, but I don't for a moment think I have any real political connection to these countries two hundred years after my ancestors left these lands. Again, that would be absurd. The OTS is a very interesting organization, and I can see the benefit in cooperation, but the only justifiable reason for it to exist is cultural and linguistic connections which exist today, not DNA from the tenth century. 🙂

@AhmetDiyorki

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell I said that this is due to the fact that they have developed a common lifestyle and culture. Although Genghis Khan was a Mongol, he also led the Turkic communities. Yes, you're right, racism is complete nonsense, I look at it in your context. As a result, one way or another, all people dispersed from a single geography and community and formed their own. There is such a fact, for example, when refugees from the Middle East want to migrate to Europe, Europeans definitely do not want this. Obviously, despite accepting a large number of refugees, the Turks do not want this either. The reason for this is not only the economy, but also cultural discontent. The reason why the leaders came together in this organization is a cultural partnership between the communities. In this context, I would very much like to see Korea, Mongolia and Japan in this organization in the future. The more communities unite on earth, the more globalized the humans becomes.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@AhmetDiyorki Korea and Japan, just like Hungary, have no cultural connection to the Turkic countries. If there are connections, they are very distant, faint, and most people are unaware of them. There can be no cultural or linguistic justification for including any of these countries. The only justification is something that happened in history centuries ago that most people have forgotten - and I think that brings the OTS into disrepute.

@cagantaskn3528

8 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell My brother, you still don't understand / see the point. The real thing is to become a whole as humanity, the unification of the humanity in the Earth to open a new era in the history, era of the terraforming other planets, the era which starts the Golden Age of the Humanity, the era of great unification. - We are not looking fo the DNA - Heritage - Roots - Background. Nomadic people who lived in the Siberia and on the Eurasian Steppes had tamed the very first horse in the human history, they were dominant on their land, they built powerful tribes, sometimes they merged and created super-states and empires such as Gokturks, Xiong-Nu Khaganate, Hun Empire etc. This culture has forged in thousands of years. Some people from this very culture called themselves "Mongol", some called "Hun", some called "Turk". Names are insignificant for these nomadic people who created this culture. Only ideology and the aim of these people were to conquer where they can reach with their horses. These people were in love with their elegant horses, these people were stargazing and watching the blue skies in a great inspiration. "Tengrism" , which is the old-religion of the nomadic people has emerged in context of these ideologies and feelings. - This ideology is still alive regardless of individual religious beliefs. Culture and language are the most important values which bring humans and therefore governments/states together in the light of the same goal or interest. It does not matter what percentage of Hungarians are of Turkic origin. It does not matter what percentage of Anatolian Turks have Greek or Roman DNA. It was not and will not be the point. It is all insignificant. We are not racists. Because there is no "pure race" in the world. Culture and language are the only important things which describe a human being. To be able to feel in the same way, to be able to fight and die side by side, to be able to unite under the name which you think describes you the most. If people of this world want to unite under the name of "Turk", let it be. If the Hungarians, regardless of their DNA results or their roots, want to become a Turkic State and want to be called as "Sons of Attila", let it be. British, French, Italian, Turk etc. They are all just names. Only thing matters is to unite under the same goal. You see, almost every Turkic person wants to call even Japanese and Koreans brothers/sisters. "They were part of the mainland Asia, our ancestors lived together" they say. I wish we all could call others brothers/sisters. It is so hard for someone to call another "brother" from the heart even if this person is an individual from your nation yet Turks can do say that even to Japanese. The instinct and desire to unite with other people... - Keep in mind that humanity can only be united step by step. In the light of this ideology, we must start from somewhere. Easiest and most efficient way is to create EU-like structures. Unlike EU, a possible Turkic Union is going to be very strong in terms of cultural and linguistic ties of the countries. These people see themselves as brothers/sisters and can understand each other in their mother tongues. This is something very special. It won't just be an economic / trade based union, it will become something better. A federation of the same culture. This structure will emerge as a 3rd block in the world. There is no country in the world right now with a possibility to unite almost 350 million people with such ease. A beacon of the countries who are not willing to take a side in a possible world war. A lighthouse of the people who want to follow their will instead of Globalist Agenda and its evil. (I am referring to ones who control almost all of the banking system, energy sources and distribution, the creators of this selfish-consumption based economic system which is doomed to explode). - Technology and Science as a role-model : With the fall of the EU which we all witness in the next 20-30 years, Europe will have to strenghten its ties with Turkic States. Other than China and USA, Turkic States will become one of the very few countries in the world which are independent in terms of Energy. Uranium, Torium, Natural Gas, Fossil Fuels, Rare Earth Elements are very rich. Other than that, Nuclear Fusion Reactors with an efficiency higher than 1.0 (For example : 100 MegaWatt Input, 150 MegaWatt Output) can be made by Turks. If not, one of the necessary key elements which is highly crucial for these reactors are Borium, Turkey holds %70 of the whole worlds Borium reserves. Humanity's leap in the tech and science depends on the Turkish interests. The other key element for reaction itself to happen is Helium-3 Isotope. There are not enough of it in the world. Our beloved Moon holds millions of tons of it. Turks must hurry the space rush 2.0 too. All of those concepts will determine whether this union is ready to lead the humanity or not.

TURKIYE'NIN Counsel ZAFER, INSHA ALLAH GUUL from Somalia

Merhaba ben Türkiye Türk'ü selam Türkistan hadi turana 🎉

Many subjects in Russia Federation also must been in Turan. Because they are turkic. Hope it happens soon.

@xooos00

2 ай бұрын

We only want the Turks and our homeland, not the Russians. Our homeland is within Russia, Russia not among the Turks

Is this a satire or a serious video?

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Oh totally, 100% serious. Beyond serious, really.

@Obrez1

2 жыл бұрын

It becomes satirical when you take something too serious...

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@Obrez1 I know. Just look at my reply to your question for a great example. 😀

I don't want Turan but I want the Turkic Union of course with european values Our union should have better human rights and democracy than the EU

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

That's something I would definitely support! Democracy and human rights in the EU is far from perfect. If anyone can do better I think that would be excellent! Thanks for watching and commenting (and look for my video about a Turkic people later this week). 🙂

Love the video man, however there are some wrong stuff that I do believe needed to be fact checked better. First of all Turkic languages are very similar in fact. As a Turkish person I can easily understand Azerbaijan and Tatar Turkish while I can understand half of the things an Uzbek is saying. Secondly Hungarians and Turks are in fact related. They both shared numerous Khaganates and Empires throughout the history before each went to their own immigration routes. The most famous of these empires is the Xiongnu Empire. And even today you can see a lot of similar words and similar structures in modern Hungarian and Modern Turkic Languages. It would be wrong to say Hungarians are Turkic but it is not wrong to say that Huns and Turks share a common ancestor. So it is not pseudoscience. It is still an on-going argument in the scientific community. And these arguments will continue for a very long time because it is a matter of classification than actual facts. Lastly, you never mentioned one of the main reason why this union exists. It is because Turkic people are known for their extreme patriotism. And this patriotism is usually linked with a very strong Turkic identity where Turkic people take pride in their culture and history. This is same with most politicians as well as most citizens. I hope these helps clear the misinformation.

@FredoRockwell

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I'm aware I got the language issue wrong. I'm hoping to make a new video on this topic this year and I'll address that. Thanks for the other points as well. 🙂

The Aim is Red apple...

is Mongolian Finno-Ugric ?

@FredoRockwell

7 ай бұрын

No. I relied on some out of date information. Sorry. 🙁

Turks rise !!!

OTS was Nursultan Nazarbayev's idea.

Kazakhstan will be a superpower. Turkey's time has passed. We have all the resources and we are bigger in territory.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! That would be interesting to see. Do you think Kazakhstan would become more democratic as this happened?

@mr.redius

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell We will soon see what example Kazakhstan sets for other Turkic countries. Turkey lives in the past like Russia.

@canozkul2866

2 жыл бұрын

Its up to elections in 2023 Turkey if erdogan go everything will change (I hope)

@mr.redius

2 жыл бұрын

@@canozkul2866 He is a dictator like Putin will not leave his post.

@lichking9510

2 жыл бұрын

All Turkic are our brothers and sisters. If you lead, we(Turkey) will follow.

Do u speak any of those language..

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! No, I don't - sorry.

@levolevo1059

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell why don't you check American Canadian geographical Indian names of the area and compare it with alyatic languages ..even name Canada etymology. Ural altay and fino ugur close but ural altay languages mainly turkic ..I use to speak Finnish and I am Turkish myself..did 66.000 miles in America..some one has to do a research of it but noone does ..

I see a confederation here in the future. It means united in foreign policies and defence and independent in domestic issues. I would like to see that in may lifetime. Best regards to my turkic brothers and sisters from Türkiye

The single pilot example was introduced as the European Union, but this union does not have to be exactly the same as the European Union. Because Turks have had different administrations and cultures since their history. There are also different road maps in the modern world. It is not a combination based entirely on Europe anyway. It may be a unique combination. Maybe better than Europe, maybe worse. Neither you nor I can see this. I think it will be a slightly longer process.

Hungarians are Huns, this is a fact.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like an alternative fact to me, but either way - do you think this issue is relevant to modern politics?

@absoluteanonomity6994

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell whether is relevant or not is irrelevant to the topic. Have you met the Hungarian president? Check out his facial.appeatence and tell me if he looks like a Hun or not. Most Magyars have the same appearance as his.

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@absoluteanonomity6994 I think classifying people's ethnicity by their facial appearance is a really bad foundation for any political action.

The Russian Federation and Communist China are the ones who should be most fearful of greater cooperation between the Turkic peoples. Russia sees the former Soviet Republics that are part of the Turkic Council as rightfully their vassal states, much as they see Ukraine and the Baltic States as rightfully their vassal states. Unity amongst the Turkic peoples can only hurt Russia's interests in the region. The Chinese Communist Party also cannot be comfortable with more integrated and cooperative Turkic peoples bordering China's Turkic Uyghur population. Long term greater unity amongst the Turkic peoples could prove to be a big thorn in the side of both Russia and China and a ray of hope to those under Russia and China's thumb. How this all plays out in light of Russia's invasion of Ukraine will be very interesting to watch.

evidence. examples. 9:38 'heavy handed' and 'excessive'. how?

Their languages are way more closer than indo-european example

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I understand that now. See multiple previous comment threads on this subject.

The flag is not blue. It is the color of Turks. Turquisie

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

In English (the language of the video) turquoise is considered a shade of blue. I'm aware that different languages (including Russian, Italian and many others) this is not the case. Thanks for the comment, though. I'm hoping to make another video about this topic soon and I'll try to me more precise.

@celilgunes8698

Жыл бұрын

@@FredoRockwell wow you are reading the comments, thanks for reading. Sorry for sounding little bit unfriendly 😅

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

@@celilgunes8698 I didn't think you were unfriendly - don't worry! I appreciate knowing how I can be more accurate. 🙂

Somaliland and Somalia peacefully merged in 1960 and breakaway again in 1991.

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are correct of course. I didn't think of that because Somaliland was independent in 1960 for such a short time, but of course what you say is correct. 🙂

I am a turkish speaker (french with roots from turkey). First thanks for your interesting video and presentation. I would just just add some informations about the language. The comparaison between turkic languages and indo-european languages is not really relevant as someone who speaks russian cannot understand someone who speaks spanish for exemple. When a turkish speaker from turkey can easily understand or learn a turkic language far east for exemple uyghur or yakut. Also hungarian is not turkic yes but still it is very very easy to learn hungarian when you speak a turkic language. The grammar is so similar that you just have to learn the vocabulary (wich is not the hardest thing to do when learning a language). I do speak french as well and had a hard time to learn english at the time also french ppl do not have the feeling to be part to the same ppl with english or german or even other latin languages when turkish ppl feel like they are from central asia and feel very closely liked to these ppl from central asia. You might know thzt everyone on turkey or Azerbaïdjan for exemple would say : one nation two states to describe their link to each others. I am a EU citizen and I dont feel that so far that exist in the EU citizens hart .. I agree that they are autocrats but maybe that union can do good about the rights of these ppl against russian and chinese pressions .. French ppl always say that the union creats the straight.. I hope that they can be united and become more democratic with time.. that would be so perfect :)

Good and interesting, but seems way off on the linguistic analysis around 7 minutes. Indo-European is a much broader category than Turkic. (Turkic languages are in turn Altaic). Spanish compared to Italian is surely a much better comparison than English to Russian, as I believe at least many of the Turkic languages in question are mutually intelligible to at least some extent.

@FredoRockwell

Ай бұрын

Yes - it's a mistake. Please see other comments. But thank you for watching and commenting!🙂

This is as informative as CNN's reports on Saddam Husein's WMD's

@FredoRockwell

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ Fredo Rockwell: interesting topic, however you are - at least about Hungary - simply echoing/repeating the mainstream media's defamation (bad talk), which lets me wonder if the same is the case about Türkiye and other mentioned supposedly "authoritarian" states. I'd like to name two examples: 1. On what grounds do you question Hungarian being related to turkic languages? Do you speak Hungarian, or did you ask anybody in Hungary? I don't think you have, because any - somewhat educated - Hungarian could have told you that the Finno-Ugric theory was a tool invented by the Austrian Empire for "taming" the notorious Hungarian freedom fighters. Telling them that they were descendants of the "Finno-Ugrians" was meant to show them that their anscestors were sipmple hunters and gatherers, and no warriors. But Hungarians are in fact descendants of the Huns - hence our people is called in English and in several other languages HUNgarians - and not of the "Finno-Ugrians". I don't deny that there are similarities in for instance between Finnish or Estonian and Hungarian, but those similarities come from the close settlement areas of these peoples in the caucasus region where they interacted (e.g. traded) with each other for a long time. On the other hand there are far more grammatical similarities between Hungarian and Turkic languages, like the missing genders and a lot of similar words. 2. Switzerland is considered to be one of the most democratic nation with its "direct democracy", right? Well Hungary has something very similar, called "national consultation", which means that voters are regularly asked for their opinion about the main political topics. As a matter of fact there is actually one going on as I'm writing this comment, I filled the questionnaire today about e.g. am I in favor of Ukraine joining the EU or not; if I agree that LMBTQ/gender ideology has no place in kindergardens and schools; etc. So if the people of a country are asked regularly about the most important topics, how can it be authoritarian?! Are people asked in this fashion in the UK, US, Germany, France, etc.? Not that I know of, and Brexit was a rare exception. So if you ask me, Hungary is more democratic than almost all of the western democracies. I rest my case.

@FredoRockwell

5 ай бұрын

I question it as a historical fact, but more importantly I don't think it's relevant to the subject of this video - modern-day politics. If there is a linguistic or cultural connection it's very slight today at best.

@attilagyori9995

5 ай бұрын

@@FredoRockwell I beg to differ, history shapes the opinions and relationships of countries to each other and this is also valid for politics. In other words history is always relevant for politics. In your video you say that Orbán invented the idea of being related to turk nations, which is false, because - however far in the past - we have a common history, still traceable in our languages.

@FredoRockwell

5 ай бұрын

Having linguistic and cultural ties can provide a platform for political and economic cooperation. Historic ties without these connections are potentially interesting to historians, but the only politicians interested in this sort of thing are far right nationalists who construct fantasies to gull people into giving up their rights and freedoms to the state. We can disagree, but I don't think that's a good thing, sorry

Good video. However, it is not like Indo-European, the Turkic language is like Slavic, germanic as well as Latin. Turkic languages are more similar compared to those mentioned.

@FredoRockwell

6 ай бұрын

I know. Sorry. See numerous previous comments. 🙂

Turan☝️