Orange has my favorite sound! Both clean and dirty! It has the exact sound I hear in my head when I think about bass

The secret to getting good recorded tones IMO, at the least the sound I always had in my head, is splitting the bass into two tracks. A lowpassed for compressing clean lows and a high-passed (or just hard low cut) with highs and mids to be distorted/saturated. There’s pedals and plugins now that work this way innately, but when I first started recording bass 20 years ago it wasn’t as common. Same principle works if you want to double electric bass with synth bass. Keep your dynamics and color and character of the high freqs, but have perfectly even and compressed low end. Funny to think Chris Squire and Geddy Lee etc were doing this live with two amps many decades ago :)

That's the best bass distortion I've ever heard your right it's so hard to get a good distorted bass tone and that nails it

I've NEVER listened to other band members crying about, "never run effects on a bass." They've heard Cliff Burton, Jack Bruce, Geezer Butler, Geddy Lee, and countless others proving how amazingly good any number of effects sound on any number of bass tones. They say those things out of fear of experimentation or others having input, or them wanting to maintain their grip on control, or just ignorance, not knowing what kind of incredible tones, sounds, and textures, can be created.

@jowlorenz9555

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad Most Guitarists got serious penis envy of bass players with unique flavor ...

@cavanray6742

3 жыл бұрын

Not mine. Find better musos. My guitarist is adamant about everyone being happy.

@vladv5126

3 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious. Nobody says anything out of "fear", unless they're complete idiots which, could be the case but it isn't the majority. As a songwriter/producer, I'm all for enhancing sound with effects as long as, and this is important, as long as they enhance something and aren't a gimmick. A bass player who's always widdling above the 15th fret with a wah constantly engaged may be having the time of his life but he's doing any song situation a disservice. Same for guitarists who only think the lowest 3 frets is all there is to a guitar. My point being, make sure you actually fulfill your instrument's role before fucking around with effects thinking you're Cliff Burton just because you're plugging into a fuzz and wah.

@scottkratka3873

3 жыл бұрын

Even Jaco used effects

@geekguitars

2 жыл бұрын

Y'all totally forgot about Les Claypool!!

Thank you for sharing the Zipper. Love that wah sound!

Great review. Orange can thank your channel, I just ordered an OB1-500, two OBC 410 Cabs two days ago...and now The Bass Butler when I don't want/ need to lug the two OBC410s around. Thanks!

sounds good. looks like a variation on the tech 21 bass DI, which I use and love.

Howabout a vocal pedal that can give us that awesome german accent !?!

@LeonOnBass

3 жыл бұрын

EHX Germanizer

@Patrickjohnphotography

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe With a few knobs so we can all get that "right" amount of German-English mumble. Big fan!

I pre-ordered it, really satisfied with sounds coming from the unit, in my opinion there are 2 or 3 „minuses” and every one leads to the other - lack of parallel output or effects loop in the unit forces putting other effects on pedalboard BEFORE the Bass Butler. It’s not a great solution for a bass player not using the amp; I sold my OB-1 500 (great amp, trully a beast, loud as hell, too loud for my usage) to buy the Butler. The best sounds from Orange BB (cute short name) come from the cabinet simulations. Using other effects after the Butler causes bypass of cabinet simulations, because they work only with the XLRs. Hope Orange’s gonna put an effects loop in the BB V2. Every other aspect of this unit is great, but forcing a „proper” way of signal path is, in fact, kinda lame.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

tbh I never use an FX way anywhere, but since this is a distortion and not just a preamp, you're right - this is a legit complaint.

@simonljunggren2727

Жыл бұрын

A late respons to this comment. In theory the jack for the expression pedal could be used as an effects loop for the dirty channel. Saw Orange Technical Director Ade Emsley mention this in some video but i have never heard about anybody actually doing it. Still no way of putting effects on clean side though.

The sound is huge indeed, i really like what i hear) It is interesting to compare this preamp with Darkglass stuff, e.g. Ultra or maybe Vintage. P.S. Pls, more videos with Ilja on the channel, he is incredibly good!

Very interesting I like how easy it is to use but also I’m a hx stomp user and use a Cali 76tx (thanks to you) I would like to try this but using the helix just makes more sense. The only thing that stands apart is this really sounds like a ad200.

Well I just love you for the explanations starving around 04:20 - its exactly me haha Neurotically looking for my tone for live and Studio. Great review! Alles gute.

OK I am sold

Number one, this pedal sounds amazing, and number two, I’m gonna end up buying a Fender Jazz bass if I keep watching videos like this one

I want to party with this dude, DANKE!

This does sound very good! My personal preference would've been to hear less top end, but I get a feeling it's a quality pedal. An all-in-one solution like this can be a real help in preventing you from entering the endless distortion quest... I used to use the M-80 DI and was quite happy using it professionally for a decade with just a little comp in front and LPF after. Then I decided I needed a break and I've since bought seemingly every overdrive pedal ever made! PSA. Distortion... not even once. Okay, once. Or until you get a good one. Just don't overthink it. But who am I kidding....

I'll be using the ROLLS MX310 to combine and sum the 2 dir xls outs then send to PA

Sounds really good but the cost puts me off compared to it rivals, twice or three times the price, but I suppose for a professional piece of kit probably about right when compared to Darkglass etc.

Very nice sounding

wow that sounds good

Does it come in orange?

Good gnarly tone really wanna hear it with a bit o slap

Hi Gregor, nice review as always. Would you tell me what reverb did you use? To the Bass Buttler: As Hubert mentioned earlier, what is really missing is an effect loop, or better two...one for each channel like in EBS's Billy Sheehan drive.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

Little Plate from Soundtoys and their Phaser is in the same clip too

@CountNetsrac

4 жыл бұрын

BassTheWorld.com Ah software....pitty thought you might have used a pedal.

That low-gain settimg on the P-bass sounded... let's say to put it mildly, pleasing. Would the Bass Butler sound just as good through an amp - like my Orange Little Bass Thing or Terror Bass?

@mortenstrde1439

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I use mine directly into the power amp of my Thunderverb 200 or my Peavey Mark IV. Sounds massive either way. Total beast of a pedal.

At 3:04 I’m reminded of a song but I can’t remember which one it is. *Edit it reminded me of I Could Have Lied from the chili peppers lol

I tried to find the tone that was stuck in my head for years. Then I bought orange crush 100 and needed only a compression pedal for it and that's it 😂 Now I'm thinking I may need this one with my setup 😂

Impressive! Wish the video went more in depth on the controls, BUT thanks for posting this!!

This sounds amazing would you prefer this or the X ultra?

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

they're both following a similar concept, but they sound VERY different. It's safe to say: it's ok to own both ;) I personally (not really a metal guy), I like the Bass Butler with its juicy mids a bit more

05:07 Why would one not want to bring his Rickenbacker to a gig? :) Danke schön für den (das/die?) Review!

Serious question. I want to learn more. I have years of experience with audio mics and how they differ. so I get the gist and 30+years of Drums, so I have a good base, but Where can I learn more about what a "clean" bass sound is? Amps are all different, how can there be one "clean sound"??? I can hear the highs and lows as pedals change the output but what is considered " correct" or right? Is there a technically correct setup of pedals? is there a hierarchy of order. Later I'll dive into bass pickups, string choice and cable/cord effects on a sound. Thank you to all who take the time to answer. P

@basstheworldofficial

3 жыл бұрын

The clean signal in bass recording is usually a DI going into a clean channel strip, no amp

I've been looking for that Sandberg jazz bass for ever... I so want to buy it! Is it discontinued? Any idea? Any one?

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been trying to get Sandberg to make this a serial model for years... no success (and I work for sandberg)

What kind of bass the is first guy playing? The one with the four dots? I keep seeing them and I’ve never been able to see the headstock with a name.

@YouBronislas

2 жыл бұрын

Sandberg (most of them are made in Germany). I think this bass in particular is a custom modem.

I remember seeing this and being pissed. All my rig is Orange...and I had JUST bought the Tech 21 dUg Pinnick signature and this was released like a few days later. Keeping the Tech 21...it's just awesome.

Sounds kinda weird on its own, but in a mix, it sounds absolutely filthy! I wish you could run it so one of the XLR’s could send a blend out. A lot of smaller venues don’t have many channels to spare, and you don’t wanna put your clean distortion blend level at the mercy of a sound guy that might hate distorted bass.

If it can give me Mel Schacher and Geddy Lee, I'm sold! Secondly,, re-run this demo with a Rick!

That has a seriously seductive tone!

Can you use this as pretty much a bass head for a cab?

@hdr96k

Жыл бұрын

yes.

Who's the guy in the beginning?

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

Ilja John Lappin

I feel like this pedal (and video) proves someone at Orange (and Bass the World?) is a King’s X fan.

What a good sound! Any idea about the inspiration behind it being called Bass Butler?

@Joshthellama

3 жыл бұрын

Named in honor of Geezer Butler I imagine

@geddeeee

2 жыл бұрын

It's called the Bass Butler because it delivers bass tone to you as a butler would deliver anything you ask for. Nothing to do with Geezer. Just Ade Emsley's tongue in cheek british humour. Same as the Little Bass Thing... He called it that because it was little and a bass 'thing'. He couldn't think of anything better.... Ha ha ha...

It's a great concept but it doesn't have TS clean/dirty outs which is a big miss for me. You can't bi-amp w it.

@dcon9370

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can....run the XLRs into a stereo power amp...thats what i do..clean n a dirty side, independent...

3:18 revörb

Nah, I'll stick the with the DG X7.

@waynealderman1921

4 жыл бұрын

I just wish the DG X7 had an option to disengage the parallel output.

If they can make it smaller I would buy it..

only thinga it needs are AUX-in & phones-out.

Sounded good through my new ADAM Audio 2.1.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

Mixed on Adam speakers ;)

Someone should run a Moog through that pedal.....

The bass butler sounds great…but that Zipper pedal was fucking awesome too

Gregor you remind me of a big Teddy Bear

you can buy a cheapo 2 channel mixer with an aux, and rat pedal, and behringer comp for half the price.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

sure, no one’s holding you back from doing that

@betetete6072

4 жыл бұрын

@@basstheworldofficial this comment is for the folks who dont know you can instead of dropping 499.00 on what is basically a compressor tube distortion and di. but its cool cant argue with that. the price is super unbased.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

but you’re completely ignoring the factor of quality and convenience and the fantastic sounding cab sim. The setup you describe would sound nothing like this pedal

'crush'... arf.

If only it was so funking expensive

The ZIPPER. NOTE YOU'RE TALKING!

£345... wow :(

Baez batlah

Interesting that Gregor does not call Ilja a bassist, I assume because he used a pick

My “concern” with this dual XLR output is that you present these to a sound guy. He then proceeds to completely make a hash of the mix of the two sounds coming from the unit. He has them badly balanced, way too much of one channel and not enough of the other in the mix. We are as musicians don’t always get a say at soundcheck, we can’t hear the sound as we are on stage. There is too much room for error. There should be the two separate channels that blend into one output to the desk. This is far more sensible and takes most of the knob twiddling away and out of the equation.

@sliverhandsonbasses

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. On the tech21 DI-2112 (which has a similar design) there is a sum switch to have all the signals running evenly on every output. I’ve never ever gigged with the option of having more than a single channel available for my bass...

@toefes

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you can use the ‘amp’ labeled output into a single (mono) DI.

The bass is better than the pedal. What kind is that? Bass I mean.

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

There are multiple basses in this video

Anyone else find this dudes accent hard to understand?

@Scarabee80

3 жыл бұрын

He is German

If they can make it smaller I would buy it..

@EvilBlakey

4 жыл бұрын

Darkglass X7 is what you're looking for