The NRSVCE Illustrated Catholic Bible
A review of the New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE) Illustrated Catholic Bible, ISBN 9780785239635.
This Bible contains the 73 books of the Catholic canon and carries an imprimatur from the conferences of Catholic bishops of the U.S. and Canada. It is a relatively large volume, 9 11/16 x 6 3/4 x 1 13/16 inches in dimensions.
The most unique feature of this Bible is its 515 (or perhaps 513) illustrations 'scanned directly from a notable Latin Bible published in Venice in 1574.' Each illustration 'is accompanied by a caption containing a verse or a couple of verses from the Bible text.'
The Anglicized, line-matched text is arranged in paragraphs in a single-column format. The 9.5 point font is bold and attractive. The words of Christ are in black ink. The outer margin is about 1.8 inches wide, making this edition suitable for note-taking. The inner margin is sufficiently wide so that the text does not drop away from the eye into the gutter.
This is not a reference edition, but the NRSV's text and translation notes are present. It does not feature explanatory notes or book introductions, but it does include a concise glossary and concordance, an index to the illustrations, and seven color maps.
The paper displays a light cream tinge and has a mild sheen. Show-through (ghosting) is visible but not distracting. I estimate the paper weight at 36 gsm.
The illustrated, imitation leather cover is flexible, with four raised hubs. The volume lies open in Genesis.
My thanks to Catholic Bible Press for providing this review copy.
Detailed contents
00:00 Dimensions, margins, layout, font ... (three charts)
00:13 Overview
02:07 Page layout
03:32 The font in the text
05:04 The font in the page-bottom notes
05:16 The note at the beginning of Esther
07:03 Paper qualities
08:03 The binding is sewn
08:43 The Bible lies open in Genesis
09:08 Headband and ribbons
09:40 The NRSV Concise Glossary and Concordance
10:33 The Illustration Index
11:20 The color maps
12:10 The paste-down construction and the cover
12:46 Presentation page & copyright page
14:13 The table of contents and prefaces
16:59 A close-up look at the font
17:45 Font comparisons
18:36 Characteristics of the NRSV
21:56 Sample illustrations
26:26 Summary
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What a beautiful Bible! I wish this were available in the RSV translation. It's too bad there aren't more premium Catholic Bibles to choose from.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
It could be that publishers haven't discovered that market yet. Perhaps things will change if Schuyler's RSV Quentel with the Apocrypha sells well. Thanks for commenting, Finian!
@NnifWald
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones the new Schuyler RSV is certainly tempting. I probably won't ever spend $200 on a Bible unless it makes the appropriate Catholic changes like the RSV2CE (e.g. "virgin," "full of grace," "only-begotten," etc.)
@Josh-yk6xk
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
@@NnifWald - Even if you and others of like mind don't purchase it, my hope is that if the Schuyler RSV with Apocrypha sells well, other publishers will discover the market for high-end Bibles that include the Deuterocanonical books. The publisher of this Illustrated Catholic Bible may then be encouraged to bring out a goatskin edition, for instance. Perhaps it's a pipe dream on my part.
@onlyhis5870
2 жыл бұрын
If you understood what was going on in the world right now, and who is orchestrating it - you wouldn’t be praising anything Catholic!
I am always glad to see an improvement in the choices of Bibles for Catholics. The gold/pattern on the page edges is a bit too much for me, but the illustrations and font seems very nice. And the rest of the Bible seems really excellent as well. I wish they(or anyone else) would produce a volume containing only the New Testament, so that we could get thick pages, bold, dark print, and yet have the volume in a practical size.
I just got this for my mother. It is an absolutely glorious Bible - everything about it screams respect for Scripture. The cover is elegant, the font is highly legible without being too big, the illustrations are beautiful and the gold edging is just stunning - it is very discretely done and just adds such a touch of class. I have not given the Bible to my Mom yet but I am so excited to do so! Thank you so much for a wonderful review!
Grant, this is by far the best premium bible available to us Catholics today. I purchased the hardback genuine leather edition and love it. Thank you for your review.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion regarding the genuine leather edition, Rudy!
Oh, that is a magnificent Bible. Thank you for this detailed look.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
It is a beauty! Thanks for commenting, Moving About and Manipulating Objects!
I just got this Bible today and so far I'm really liking it.
Thank you for taking the time to show this Bible. It is very beautiful. I am quite fond of Bible editions that include reproduction woodcut images (like the Lutheran Study Bible). This Bible has so many. I am in awe of the gilt edges, as well; the pattern is stunning. I hope you get some time to enjoy this edition.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Rachel! It is a very attractive Bible, and I hope it sells well, in order to encourage the publishers to continue producing Bibles with good paper, print, and binding.
What a beautifully crafted Catholic Bible. A lot of attention to detail has gone into it's construction. I love the wood carving images. The presentation is outstanding. I'm pleased the words of Christ are in black.
Ordered my copy after watching this vid. Thanks for the "unboxing" 👍
Thank you always look forward to your reviews, as I have said before. Excellent I am like you in this I am not a fan of inclusive language with the Bible but I appreciate your technical knowledge and all the fine details you give.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment, Larrym!
Just got this one in the mail last week! 🙂 Incredibly beautiful bible.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, krjohnson29. Thanks for commenting!
I bought one yesterday & love it.
Another stellar review. PS I just purchased the Divine Mercy bible. Really enjoying it! I read her autobiography a few years ago. Wonderful Saint! Happy Labor Day.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment, Donald!
@donaldmartineau8176
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones You’re welcome. I forgot to mention St. Faustina as such the inspiration for the Dive Mercy celebration.
That is a nice looking Catholic Bible, I especially like the edge lining with the designs.
I got this Bible about a couple weeks ago and i love it! Very nice Bible,my best one and the nicest one I've seen actually. Beautiful cover, very sturdy pages, nice illustrations, plenty of space on the sides if you like to take notes, 2 ribbon markers. Etc. Very nice in my opinion. It is a little expensive though, i bought it from Barnes and Noble for 79.99 plus tax so about 85 dollars. I do not regret spending a penny though. I recommend it for anyone.
the illustrations are so beautiful!
Wish they did this for Orthodox Bibles corrected to the LXX and Patriarchal Greek New Testament 🙄
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely like to see such a Bible with opaque paper; dark, line-matched text; and a sewn binding. Thanks for commenting, Peter!
Excellent video, and what a beautiful bible. Curious as to why they chose the anglicized text as this is normally used in editions destined for the UK, Australia and New Zealand markets.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good question, Tim. It could be that their market research suggested that sales will be stronger in the Commonwealth nations. Thanks for the kind comment!
Terrific presentation, as always. Thank you! This bible looks absolutely marvellous. Shame about Printed in China. I'd bet most buyers would gladly pay three times the price for this gorgeous piece of work.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that kind remark, z853c! If they desire to keep production costs down, I wonder why publishers don't encourage the development of printers in other countries where labor is inexpensive.
This looks like a beautiful Bible. I can see Amazon UK will have this available from the 16th September. I am going to pre order this. An excellent review as always it is appreciated. Thank you ) ++
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouraging comment, DinoDino! I hope you enjoy it.
The ornate gilding is a bit much for me, but the interior layout is breathtakingly gorgeous.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Thanks for commenting, M.A. Moreno!
nice to see wood cutting art return to a modern bible, and I like the font size on this.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it has some very nice features. Thanks for commenting, IG 4WDI!
@Mechtrekica
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones I just picked up this Bible today and wow it is beautiful. It even adds the prayer of Azariah and the other additions that were in the Latin Vulgate to this Bible in order. It is very unique.
I HAVE the anglisised version of the new revised standard and I got it on sale from Amazon for about $70 and it is in 13 POINT FONT. .. so I really do like it. Someone said that the British and the Americans are two people divided by a Common Language. My wife is from England.
Thanks as ever, for such an engaging review - and what a beautiful bible! (The NRSV and RNJB are favourites of mine.) You'd wonder, though, who'd want to spend $50 or so on this edition, when release of an NRSV-UCE (and probably in all current formats) is imminent. God bless your work and channel.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder the same thing, Paul. But perhaps the update will be so mild that it won't matter. Thanks for the encouraging comment!
@paulcollins6732
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Check out kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJ-TypeLiMm1k9I.html. I think the changes may be more extensive than we think (20,000 changes in total)!
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcollins6732 - Perhaps. I skimmed through the document Thrift Store Bibles features in the video, and the changes seemed mild to me. But the number 20,000 does put it in a different light.
@williamockham5284
2 жыл бұрын
Personally, based on the changes I have seen, I may actually prefer the original NRSV over the Updated Edition.
@deaconjohn7875
2 жыл бұрын
@@williamockham5284 Yes, I prefer the original NRSV. Many of the changes were not improvements but made it less accurate.
It's a beauty, but I already have plenty of NRSVs. Thanks for showing it to us!
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Thrift Store Bibles!
Have this on pre-order here in the UK (out on the 16th Sept they say) and I can't wait...! Especially as there doesn't seem a lot of choice in quality text blocks for the NRSV. Love the single column, the wide margin and the illustrations. Only thing I'm not keen on is the ornate gold on the cover. It's a bit like the gold icons on the Ignatius Bibles...so guess this style of Bible ornamentation is a Catholic thing?? I'm hoping the text block might be a good candidate for a plainer goatskin rebind...
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could put it in a Bible cover, or just use a book sock (if those are sold in the UK). Thanks for commenting!
Beautiful Bible... and a great review to do it justice!
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment, Mark!
Thanks for this review! I like the bible. And the single column format with wide margins. But I don't like the NRSV translation. If they ever produce a RSV2CE version I might purchase it.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, acardnal! Like you, I would be more enthusiastic if it were in the RSV2CE. I don't recall seeing an RSV2CE published by anyone other than Ignatius Press, even though the National Council of Churches owns the copyright.
@TyroneBeiron
2 жыл бұрын
Try the Ave Press RSV 2CE Note Taking Bible with imitation leather. There may be 20% promo code via various sites, though the offer may since have expired. Includes all references to the CCC, but excludes timeline/glossary etc.
I noticed that when we have a translation list and the date of each one I have to mention that the bishop Bible and the Geneva Bible is not on the list
Where do you typically find these kinds of editions of non-evangelical publishing house Bibles?
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Some of the more out-of-the-way Bibles I review were recommended by viewers. This particular edition was suggested by a publisher.
The written WORD tells us that the best way to gain inward peace and tranquillity of mind under puzzling and disturbing troubles is to commit ourselves and our case to the LORD
Thank you so much. Do you think the font is large enough for aging eyes?
I'm new to trying to find a Bible. I have a few (KJV, Catholic Bible I've had since the 60s), but all of these names and acronyms are confusing and I forget what I've looked at and what they all mean. It's a bit too much. I like the looks of this one and illustrations, but what does "New Revised Standard Version" actually mean?
I absolutely love the layout of this Bible. The font seems the right boldness and the font looks readable. The binding and the cover looks really awesome. I'm not sure I'm so into the pattern gilding but it's surely unique. I love myself a hefty Bible, so the size of this one is in no way a bother to me, in fact I rather like the size of it. I'm not a fan of the NRSV translation, I don't like the gender inclusive language. Other than the translation, this is a very good looking Bible. Zondervan and Thomas Nelson are really putting out some awesome Bible. I would love to have some of the other major translations also in British English as that is my native language in Jamaica (the KJV obviously is already in British English). Sometimes it poses a slight awkwardness reading the American English of the translations. There was a British edition of the NKJV when was originally published, but I don't think that version is around anymore. Also there is an Anglicised edition of the ESV and NIV on Biblegateway, but there is no printed edition of either. I like that the illustrations are sketches and not coloured drawings, it sorts of integrates better into the text better.
@timcrouch4801
2 жыл бұрын
You can get printed anglicized editions of the ESV and NIV in the UK. Try Amazon UK, Bible Society and SPCK and see if they can deliver to Jamaica.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Edward! I have an Anglicized ESV -- evangelicalbible.com sold them about a decade ago --, but I've not seen an Anglicized NIV. This particular Bible has some very nice features, and it makes me hopeful that the trend toward higher quality publications from the publishers will continue.
@edwardgraham9443
2 жыл бұрын
@@timcrouch4801 Great, I will look into this. Thank you.
@edwardgraham9443
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones In my opinion, I think this is where Bible publishing should be focused now. I think we have enough very good English translations, so focusing on the presentation of the text should be their main focus. Thinlines or at least thin and personal or handsized Bibles are what the majority of people seem to want but at the same time they don't want to lose the readability and thickness of the paper. I'm not sure that the physics can work in their favour but that's what they want. Large enough print in a small package where they can take notes and underline with minimal to no ghosting or bleed through. This is what publishers should be focusing on, how can we do this, if it's even possible to get this done. I for one am not the greatest fan of thinlines because of their small print and often things like concordances, full set of translators notes, maps or even references and paper quality are sacrificedto cut down on thickness and if they are included, the font size is so small, it's practically unreadable. That being said, I like the direction publishers like Zondervan and Thomas Nelson are going. You're even getting raised hubs on leathersoft Bibles, two thick double sided satin ribbons and decent paper. All this make for a better Bible reading experience, which is what you want, people reading their Bibles. It's time for Crossway and to a lesser extent Holman to catch up, especially with their ribbons, not Crossway and Holman Bibles have some terrible ribbons and the Crossway has some very tissue thin paper. At least their fonts are very nice, but the comfort print of Zondervan and Thomas Nelson are boss at the moment. They are headed in the right way I believe.
Christian Book Distributors doesn't have this one, but does have one published by Thomas Nelson (also owned by HarperCollins). I wonder if they will be the publisher for this Bible in the US.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Michael! The ISBN is the same, so another possibility is that 'Thomas Nelson Bibles' is an error in CBD's description. Perhaps someone who purchases it through CBD will let us know.
@michaelmurphy8678
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Oh, I see that now. For some reason, when I search by ISBN, it showed no matches. It's probably an error by CBD. This looks like a really neat Bible. Not many that have these kind of historic illustrations.
woah
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
That was my reaction when I first took it out of the box. Thanks for commenting, Masto!
I’d love to have this Bible. However, I’m not ‘into’ this 'gender-neutral’ stuff. Is there a traditional version of this?
looks okay , i hate to sound scrupulous but we Catholics just don't make quality bibles like the protestants do .. with the exception of baronius press and the word on fire bible these imitation leather bibles just dont cut it .. thats just me tho
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I believe there will be a leather-over-board option also -- much more expensive, though. The less expensive imitation leather edition would be a good candidate for a rebind. Thanks for commenting!
@jillchristensen5093
2 жыл бұрын
Fellow Catholic here. I’m inclined to agree. I just looked up this Bible and the real leather version is also hardcover. What do Catholic publishers have against nice, floppy leather bound bibles? So much effort went into this Bible only to be either artificial leather or hardcover.
@krjohnson29
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you'd honestly be able to tell much difference between this imitation leather cover and a high quality genuine leather one. In fact it seems to be much higher quality than many genuine leather versions I have held. I expect it will age quite nicely too, but we shall see. Personally I no longer can justify buying real leather bibles anymore given the abundance of high quality imitation leather versions these days and the sad realities of modern industrial animal agriculture.
@krjohnson29
2 жыл бұрын
@Neil D The imitation leather has as been getting a lot better, and the stuff on this particular Bible is fantastic. This isn't the cheap stuff that one typically thinks of.
@Chilling498
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Beautiful bible
His voice makes me want to drink tea and smoke a pipe.
Hi Grant, The caption for the book of Jude is a little odd. The opening verse says 'servant of Jesus' and 'brother of James', but the caption reads 'brother of Jesus'! Is this deliberate, do you think, or an error? A little odd anyway. Keep up the good work!
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was deliberate. The intro to Jude in the Challoner Douay-Rheims calls him 'brother to St. James the Less.' But the intro to James says 'It was written by the apostle ST. JAMES, called THE LESS, who was also called THE BROTHER OF OUR LORD, being his kinsman (for cousins german with the Hebrews were called brothers)."
@paulcollins6732
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Thanks!
Hi Thank you for such a detailed review. What is your opinion of the St. Joseph New Catholic Bible translation published by the Catholic Book Publishing Corp? Is this translation a revision of an earlier translation or is it a totally new translation based on original texts? Thanks
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Asereko8! I don't have any experience with the New Catholic Bible. From what I can tell, it's a new translation. You can read it online at BibleGateway.com.
@Asereko8
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Thank you 😊
R. Grant Jones do you by chance know good Catholic bibles with creeds in them?
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
No, sorry. I can't think of any.
Great video,
Another fine review, on the topic of illustrated bibles have you seen worthy word's facsimile of the 1846 illuminated bible? It's the single best illustrated bible I've come across
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement, Gilbert! I just Googled the Worthy Word 1846 Illuminated Bible, and it is impressive. I wonder how it compares to the edition available at GreatSite.com.
@gilbertculloden87
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones I believe the Greatsite edition is larger than the Worthy Word edition (though the Worthy Word edition is the same size as Greatsite's "regular" 1611 KJV, which is plenty big enough for me). I ordered the Worthy Word edition and it's one of my favorite Bibles. I was a bit concerned about ghosting with all the illustrations, but it's really not an issue, and I'd heartily recommend it to anyone interested. Someone scanned a copy of the original 1846 edition at archive.org if you're interested in seeing how the illustrations are laid out in the text. (I tried to post a link but KZread doesn't seem to be letting me)
Well done as always.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, Mike!
I think as people get OLDER they are going to ONLY read bigger PRINT that CAN be seen.
Like you, I like Bibles. The number of English Bibles is bewildering. I just ordered the NASB 2020, and I will get the Updated American Standard Version, the Updated NRSV, and the Legacy Standard Bible. Maybe then I’ll stop. Are you still in the Orthodox Church? I went to the Antiochian Orthodox Church for a few years, but now attend a Lutheran Church. I hope you review the Bible’s I hope to purchase soon.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, Alan! I hope to review the NRSV Updated Edition and the full LSB once they're available. The Updated ASV doesn't interest me much -- I like the archaic language in the original. To answer your question, no, I haven't been to an Orthodox church since around 2005. But I do agree with them on several fairly significant points.
@alanpruett2217
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Although it may not interest you, I hope you do review the updates ASV as well, when it is available to you. I am interested to know in terms of literalness, how it scores compared to the Legacy Standard Version and NASB20.
This Roman Catholic Bible is a Very Gorgeous, Very Beautiful and Very Luxurious and More Premium Really.
Good day, Dr. Jones. If I could ask your opinion: strictly in terms of translation, if you had to choose between the NRSV-CE and the ESV-CE, which would you prefer? Thanks for your time and for the continued videos!
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
I would choose the ESV-CE. Thanks for the question, Parker.
@Ambrose_op
Жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Thank you for the response, Dr. Jones. By chance, have you seen the Cambridge Cornerstone ESV-CE, and do you have any thoughts on it?
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
@@Ambrose_op - no, I haven't seen it in person. From the photos, it looks like a simple text Bible, like the ESV-CE I reviewed a few years ago.
Nice one, would prefer the RSV
Fantastic Quality Video Really
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, Sagar!
@sagarmukherjee2277
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Your Most Welcome.
I would trade my bnib ESV Topaz for that.
Hi All, I am looking to purchase a Douah Rheims Catholic Bible with a leather cover but all the bibles i have encountered have thin paper. I really want something that is going to be thicker and stronger. Can anyone recommend a print that is easy to ready and strong. Thankyou
@deaconjohn7875
2 жыл бұрын
Baronius press has a Douay Rheims in Large print and the paper is print without bleed through. Their "flexible" bonded leather is actually stiff like a hard back but if your criteria is big print and thick paper...this one is good on both points. It is sewn binding but the signatures are a little uneven but it does not detract from the strong points I mentioned.
(JOY JESUS).
Nice
Can I buy one
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
If you're in the US, you can buy it here www.christianbook.com/nrsvce-illustrated-catholic-comfort-leather-black/9780785239635/pd/239631 or here www.amazon.com/NRSVCE-Illustrated-Catholic-Leathersoft-Comfort/dp/0785239634 .
Can you please check out The Antioch Bible by Gorgias Press
Does this have deutrocanonicals chapters
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
The Deuterocanonical books are included. I'm not sure what you mean by 'chapters.' In each book, the text is divided into chapters.
@vinodfurtado
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@@RGrantJones does it have all the 18 Deuterocanonical books. i could not see them all in the index. only few i suppose
@RGrantJones
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@@vinodfurtado - it has the standard set that are published in Catholic Bibles in America. It omits 2 and 3 Maccabees, for instance, and Psalm 151.
@vinodfurtado
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@@RGrantJones Please suggest me one with all books apocrypha + good font size 12 /13 + price no constraint [ 50 -60$]
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
@@vinodfurtado - do you need an NRSV, or would an ESV do? Cambridge publishes both translations in editions with the additional books. I've reviewed an NRSV here kzread.info/dash/bejne/qX2n2JKvfpatm5s.html and an ESV here kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJyk286gcq_MksY.html .
Really Good Bible.
"...but quite a lot more literal than the New Jerusalem Bible, The Jerusalem Bible, or even the Revised New Jerusalem Bible." Okay, but what about the Revised New Revised Jerusalem Bible" 🤪
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
That could be published next year, followed almost immediately by the Revised New Revised Jerusalem Bible Updated Edition!
Its a beauty, too bad its single column!
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Fitting the illustrations into a two-column format may have been too challenging for the designers. Thanks for commenting, Joe!
what do you mean by gender inclusive language?
Hi - many thanks for the review.. Grant (presuming that to be your Christian name..) please can i ask a favour..? I was brought up catholic. I'm not catholic anymore after a 'road to Damascus' conversion here in the UK 25yrs ago.. but i'm confused ref the NRSV / RSV / RSV-CE / RSV-CE2...and other 'catholicy' bibles.. i note at the start you mention that there are more books - more material in the NRSV which you compared size-wise. Is there any way you could put something together explaining to the uneducated in this matter, how all these versions 'sit together' (or not)... which one's are 'catholic versions' - and what on earth that means..?? Just completely befuddled with why all these 'catholicy' type bibles exist - where they come from and why.. and why one is a 'catholic version and one not... Many thanks in advance...
@dannySG61
2 жыл бұрын
A Catholic Bible has the deuterocanonical books.
@christianwolstencroft3431
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannySG61 You mean the 'Apocrypha'.. or other books also..? So none of the other 'RSV type bibles will have the deuterocanonical books... just the 'catholic' versions.. and which one's are they..? And why do the non catholic versions exist?
@kinyouz-nn4897
2 жыл бұрын
the books are the Deuterocanonical books(the apocryphal books) These consist of seven books: Tobias, Judith, Baruch, Ecclesiasticus, Wisdom, First and Second Machabees(also certain additions to Esther and Daniel) wich are found in the septuagint(The Greek Old Testament) the dead sea scrolls and in the vulgate( the latin translation of the bible) and these books are used by catholics the orthodox and i think some sects of the protestants use them and this is a link for someone explaining why they have extra books in the bible kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4mssraTg5rJdbw.html note there are more apocryphal books used by orthodox sects alone like psalms 151 3 - 4 Machabees the book of jasher , enoch etc
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting question! I believe the RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible (NOAB) started the trend toward Bibles with a larger number of Apocryphal works. The RSV NOAB was intended to be useable by Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants. As a result, it includes 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, 1 Esdras, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 2 Esdras, works that aren't normally included in the Catholic canon. The NRSV version of the NOAB also included those books. And now one can find other editions of the NRSV that include all the books in the NOAB, such as the one I showed in the video. You might call them ecumenical Bibles rather than Catholic Bibles. Catholic Bibles will include 73 books, rather than the 66 books of the Protestant canon. The additional books are listed in kinyou z-nn's comment, and those books appear in the order shown in this video. The ecumenical Bibles I mentioned above typically place the Apocryphal books in a separate section. Older Protestant Bibles such as the Geneva Bible and the KJV originally included all the Deuterocanonical books, plus 1 and 2 Esdras. Since the 1820s, KJVs with the Apocrypha have been harder to find, but Cambridge currently publishes an edition of the Cameo with them all. I believe the Revised English Bible is typically printed with this set of additional books in a separate section -- a larger set than the Catholic Deuterocanonicals, but smaller than the collection of books bound into the ecumenical Bibles. Further complicating matters is the fact that a few multidenominational translations have Catholic editions. In the 1960s the text of the RSV New Testament was modified and, when printed with the RSV Old Testament with the Deuterocanonical books placed in Catholic order, it became the RSV Catholic Edition. More modifications were made in the first decade of this century, I believe, -- especially to the Old Testament -- and the RSV2CE was born. Something similar was done with the NRSV and the ESV, so there are now Catholic editions of each. So the RSVCE, RSV2CE, NRSVCE, and the ESV-CE were all originally translated by committees composed largely of Protestants, but they all include the Deuterocanonical books in Catholic order. The Douay-Rheims, NAB, NABRE, Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, and Revised New Jerusalem Bible all started life as Catholic Bibles. I've typed largely this off the top of my head, making minimal use of reference works, so the above may include errors. But this channel has highly knowledgeable viewers whom I trust will correct my more egregious misrepresentations!
@christianwolstencroft3431
2 жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones very many thanks for your insights. 👍🙂
The Publishers who Print & Community must take a STAND & OBJECT on Translation as well as OMITTING the VERSE from Bible . Christians must know those verses from the Bible which was /is printed were REMOVED. Eg. [ In Original KJV Bible , all chapter & verse present .] But Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV those chapters ,verses are as follows. Matthew 17:21 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Matthew 18:11 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Mark 23:14 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Mark 9:44 ,46 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Mark 11:26 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Mark 15:28 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Luke 17:36 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Luke 23:17 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] John 5:4 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Acts 8:37 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Acts 15:34 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Acts 24:7 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Acts 28:29 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] Romans 16:24 Removed - [ Missing in NIV , NASV, NCV,NRSV, RSV ] And this became the jokes in front of All . People Questions on it. Which is your Accurate Bible.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, E.S Raj.
Everything about this bible is perfect...except the translation. A shame.
Not a fan of the Anglicizing. But really nice Bible!
Beautiful but it’s the NRSV which is gender inclusive. Too bad.
@RGrantJones
2 жыл бұрын
I understand that reaction. Thanks for commending, rraddena!
@acardnal
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Gorgeous bible and I love the single column layout and everything else. BUT I dislike the NRSV translation. I, too, would love to see this in the RSV2CE version.
apocryphal bible for Protestants and non-Orthodox Jews and Deuterononication