Sam, I'm really becoming worried about this airplane obsession. I think it's time for an intervention.

@Wendoverproductions

4 жыл бұрын

How about you engineer yourself a door to show yourself out of.

@James-sh8mu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wendoverproductions bruh

@RealEngineering

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wendoverproductions how about I engineer a hand to slap your butt? How about that!?

@callo6149

4 жыл бұрын

Dayum

@tacticalfall4505

4 жыл бұрын

Why don’t you both go to WENDOVER, Utah which is HALF AS INTERESTING as California to ENGINEER a solution with the LORE of REAL LIFE.

Title: *"Logistics of NFL"* Content: *10% NFL, 90% airplane* *BECAUSE WENDOVER*

@derpmcgerp8062

4 жыл бұрын

*Perfectly balanced, like all things should be.*

@jackodees1765

4 жыл бұрын

It is all logistics, and it's quite relevant. They did a similar video on the logistics in F1. In football (the non-american version) it's a way smaller problem, because of national leagues, and most countries, apart from the USA, have their population, and thus most of their teams, located close together.

@smashlab119

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus you weren't kidding

@shaheerthekhan

4 жыл бұрын

Jacko Dees ya ruined it, immediately

@peterkelford

4 жыл бұрын

That's also why two close-by teams have the biggest rivalries. Home or away, the most fans can participate.

The NFL should just play in London, Ontario and claim it's actually England. That'll cut down on travel time. Just CGI the background during panoramic shots.

@robertandrews6915

3 жыл бұрын

Clever but I'm not sure if Canadians really like football. They seem to like hockey and maple trees more.

@hbk314

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertandrews6915 There is a Canadian Football League (CFL) for what it's worth. lol

@ethanryan9088

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertandrews6915 a lot of people here actually like football

@manwork1712

3 жыл бұрын

Canadian here that plays football. We like it but hockey’s better

@thomasbraun2052

3 жыл бұрын

The CFL at least used to be very popular here.

"A permanent synthetic American Football *pitch* under its grass soccer *field* " Good god man, are you trying to incite a riot or what?

@jasondashney

4 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed he chose this channel to do the troll instead of Half As Interesting.

@tomney4460

4 жыл бұрын

Like #400

@pleasestop104

3 жыл бұрын

I’m really fuckin dumb, can someone dumb it down for me?

@LPcrazy_88

3 жыл бұрын

​@@pleasestop104 He mixed the two terms around. So it would normally be said: "American Football FIELD under it's grass Soccer PITCH." (Although it would never be called Soccer Pitch, since the rest of the world calls Soccer, Football) I imagine he did it that way not so much as a troll, but just because it sounded better that way, and to avoid saying field twice.

@pleasestop104

3 жыл бұрын

LPcrazy88 oh thanks!

0:00 - “Ahh nice a video about the nfl” 1:06 - “Nevermind it’s planes again”

@OVERCAPITALIZE

4 жыл бұрын

@Flight 32X No. It's just ALWAYS about fucking airplanes

@Bryan-bh4fo

4 жыл бұрын

KENSHIRO that’s good

@e1123581321345589144

4 жыл бұрын

@Flight 32X panes solve a lot of logistical problems. I'm curious thought to see how these problems will look like if SpaceX delivers on it's promise of 40 minute to any destination using with their starship/BFR vehicle.

@juandiegoprado

4 жыл бұрын

Flight 32X It was just a joke fam

@DoctorWhom

4 жыл бұрын

@Flight 32X Planes are like Superman in comics. Superman is strong, he punches the guy. no more problem.

Me: "Hey Wendover, NFL video?" Wendover: "Airplane Video."

@Applica2000

4 жыл бұрын

The "Nope, it's a Tide ad" of Wendover Productions videos.

@adamclabaugh1945

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind them at all

0:00 ooh a football video, exciting 3:50 God dammit its just planes again

@oliviawu7625

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mattwilliams6587

3 жыл бұрын

this comment is gold

@JasperPijfers

2 жыл бұрын

Me: 0:00 sad a american football video, it'll probs involve plands tho 3:50 yay planes

These NFL teams really need to cash in on their frequent-flyer miles, imagine all the reward they could get.

@tomlxyz

2 жыл бұрын

They probably get none in their contract

@blakebrown186

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomlxyz bc

Only Wendover can talk about football and bring up aeroplanes

@daixiee

4 жыл бұрын

Zac i saw your original comment “are there any planes in this video” 😂

@Digital_Trabby

4 жыл бұрын

Zac me

@neshanthkuppuswamy2096

4 жыл бұрын

That’s why he’s the best

@mrmbwana1386

4 жыл бұрын

Title says logistics of . . .

@NaenaeGaming

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping that you would clarify by saying ‘American’ Football, not just football...

Only Wendover can make an NFL video 90% about planes.

@FRGBlackBurn

4 жыл бұрын

@The Bad Ass Corolla: exists Real Life Lore: is this a new measurement unity?

@adamreisenauer3141

4 жыл бұрын

its so trrue tho

@crucisnh

4 жыл бұрын

I think that it was a very interesting video. Logistics is a lot more important than people realize, whether it's in pro sports or the military. (There's some old saying that military amateurs study tactics while professionals study logistics.) It makes a lot of sense that travel issues are a major hassle for NFL teams, given that they play only 1 game a week, while other pro sports teams are playing from 3-4 games a week to sometimes 6-7 games a week. Also, lots of NFL players (i.e. linemen) are significantly larger than most players in other sports. I will say that NBA players can be "large", but their size is more about height than weight and girth. I'd imagine that the major issue for NBA players is leg room. Long term, it'd seem easier for NFL teams to just lease a plane from Boeing or whatever company buys and leases out planes. And then have those planes' interiors custom designed for the needs of NFL sized players, etc. IIRC, some teams in the NBA have done just this, since custom designed planes are a lot more comfortable for NBA sized guys.

@vinaymadhugiri3

4 жыл бұрын

He combined the two aspects of my personality - Obsession with the NFL and obsession with airplanes

@AF-sb3jk

4 жыл бұрын

It's all almost completely wrong. The patriots own their own planes. Most NFL teams actually own their own planes but call it chartering. Basically the owners of the teams all have their own private planes. The Teams just :rent" the planes from the owners and it's called a business expense. He's usually pretty good, but this is fucking all wrong and just so stupid.

I played baseball at University of Hawaii, and let me tell you, that travel is hell. Would have been a lot easier if I was being paid like NFL players do though.

@thehandsomenipple3623

Жыл бұрын

how was your experience

Of course the Patriots just bought some planes.

@InfanitlyGaming

4 жыл бұрын

EanMac the tail has a decal of every Lombardi trophy they’ve won... it’s majestic

@donsuave7486

4 жыл бұрын

The plane is called AirKraft

@aced9852

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@tuckertheyoutuber901

4 жыл бұрын

Planegate

@bballkid7409

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what happens when you have the best owner in the league.

Me: Oh Nice a NFL video Wendover: Flying, 767, Chartered planes, American airlines...

@SueBobChicVid

4 жыл бұрын

Me: Almost ignores video because thumbnail has "NFL" in it. Then, sees that it's from Wendover - can't click fast enough.

@swissbreeze

4 жыл бұрын

Lucas Henveaux we get it. He talks about airplanes. Thanks for pointing that out.

@DapperHesher

4 жыл бұрын

Lucas is obviously new here.

Wendover: Makes a Video about the NFL No One: Wendover: Okay and this is how it relates to planes

@stormysamreen7062

4 жыл бұрын

so underrated

@jackodees1765

4 жыл бұрын

It litterally says the logistics problem of NFL, nothing more or less. Hmm, what will it be about?

Personally id rather see an Hawaiian or Alaskan team before I see a English team. It could be a good proof of concept if the NFL can maintain a team in both or just one of those relatively isolated parts of the US. Plus seeing a team called the Honolulu Volcanoes or something would be really cool.

@ChefofWar33

4 жыл бұрын

Alaska isnt possible. Waaaay to fucking cold and too little people. Hawaii on the other hand is legit. I dont know why they dont already have a team tbh.

@richardarriaga6271

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChefofWar33 Cold can be solved with indoor stadium, but there aren't enough people to support a football team in Alaska.

@matthewwelsh294

Жыл бұрын

@@ChefofWar33 Then explain Green Bay 😂 😂

@ChefofWar33

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewwelsh294 You dont understand real cold. Green Bay feels like Tampa Bay compared to Alaska in the late fall.

@matthewwelsh294

Жыл бұрын

@@ChefofWar33 Anchorage is not in the Arctic 😂 😂

LA Rams should have taken that skillshare course on team logo design.

@tejgaonkar6208

2 жыл бұрын

So true. How could they screw up a logo that much?

@dvhughesdesign

Жыл бұрын

Ouch! And their unis in general are vomitous.

@KanyeTheGayFish69

Жыл бұрын

@@dvhughesdesign I like the blue ones

Logistics of huge tournaments like world cup and Olympics will be interesting to watch

@uss_04

4 жыл бұрын

Some cities repurpose buildings, others build new ones. Would love to see how they consider sites and logistics for those too.

@angelrobles7201

4 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting, because it involves the logistics to host, the logistics to prepare to host, and the logistics of the different NOC that compete

@roadrunner6224

4 жыл бұрын

You mean the logistics of burning billions of dollars

@carboy101

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. I second this.

@stormysamreen7062

4 жыл бұрын

@@roadrunner6224 lol exactly

NFL does not just have a logistics problem, it also has a mental one for not putting sweet victory in the halftime show

@angelrobles7201

4 жыл бұрын

This comment wins the Internet, ladies and gentlemen!

@yacobgugsa2524

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention all the concussions that the league is ignoring

@bbolin5626

4 жыл бұрын

I have to wait 90 days to change my name While that small clip was a betrayal, they didn’t need to put in sweet victory.

@danehales2021

4 жыл бұрын

Trust me that is the lest of their worries regarding mental health

@KanyeTheGayFish69

4 жыл бұрын

G Spawn they reduced concussions 60% last year. Most of the players with Cte played when safety protocols weren’t followed.

The NFL essentially owns a day of the week. Its big.

@headcanon6408

4 жыл бұрын

Komrade BigTex sucks not only does it own a day of the week, that’s the same day of the week previously (and currently depending on who you ask) owned by churches

@ChefofWar33

4 жыл бұрын

@@headcanon6408 I dont know man. F1 is more important for me to watch on Sunday. However, racing is usually very early for Americans so I can still watch the Pats when they play.

@xsds199

3 жыл бұрын

thanks sherlock

@jackwyatt3854

3 жыл бұрын

Bryce Peters lmao way more Americans tune into NFL games than racing it’s not even close

@ghosttoast8610

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Wyatt when did he say they didnt

7:30 I have to question why so much equipment has to travel with the team, rather than league-wide supplies being stationed at each NFL stadium. Surely the players could travel only with their personal belongings and uniforms while the medical supplies, athletic tape, etc. and other general purpose supplies are located permanently at the destination.

@fredriddles1763

2 жыл бұрын

They could be worried about sabotage, or shoddy gear. Bringing their own stuff means they can take full responsibility for what goes right or wrong in the game.

@elimorozov4769

2 жыл бұрын

I think much of the items are still person-specific. Like helmets and padding and everything are often fit to the individual so it would be anything from a gamble to actually unsafe to just assume it would be there

@aditya.sagraha

2 жыл бұрын

Cowboys once carried their own sideline benches to Washington because the benches' heaters in Washington didn't work. Plus, it was a winter night game

NFL: We have a logistic problem F1: hold my Heineken

@harrywhite9030

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this for the entire video😂

@monkeylordofdoom14

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously! The F1 video boggled my mind!!!! Gave me a new found appreciation for F1!

@tjcassidy2694

4 жыл бұрын

Apples and oranges. F1 - like NASCAR and Indy Racing - stages their events in one place at a time; the NFL - like MLB, NBA and NHL - stages their events in more than a dozen places at a time.

@harrywhite9030

4 жыл бұрын

@@tjcassidy2694 they still have drive their cars and a lot of equipment between races. There's plenty of videos explaining the logistics and it makes the NFLs problems look laughable in comparison.

@dragonage200

4 жыл бұрын

TJ Cassidy while there is only one race at a time, F1 happens all over the world, sometimes with back-to-back races, racing at one place one weekend, and then another location, thousands of miles away the next week. So teams actually have multiple sets of basic equipment that they send on a complex dance choreograph all over the world. The more sensitive and upgradable equipments like cars will be sent back to the factory after each race, and then sent back out. Teams pack everything up the Sunday night after the race and have things back at the factory Monday or Tuesday. Then they have to shipped out Wednesday or Thursday for the Friday practice session. And then there are the last minute upgrade packages. Sometimes sent halfway around the world using overnight shipping. Also it doesnt matter if there are a million NFL games in a thousand different locations, each team is responsible for their own shit.

Anything: exists Wendover productions: *Zippity Zane* *This is now about p l a n e s*

@watwat2540

4 жыл бұрын

562 likes and only 2 comments? Bruh

@harshbansal7982

4 жыл бұрын

747 likes Coincidence .?Prolly not

@FussyPickles

4 жыл бұрын

touche

@brazeiar9672

4 жыл бұрын

From this video I now know that a 6'6 250lb black guy from the US needs two seats for him and each of his team mates. I think we could have guessed this.

Roster is 53 but only 45 dress for a game

@denimchicken104

4 жыл бұрын

No idea where this jabroni got 56 from

@Fopppyable

4 жыл бұрын

Remember it doesn’t matter to Sam, only the planes matter

@trharrington22

4 жыл бұрын

58 including practice squad

@wezleey25

4 жыл бұрын

@@trharrington22 53 man roster. 10 on the practice squad.

@kimjongchungus7548

4 жыл бұрын

wezleey25 practice squad doesn’t travel with team

Super Rugby trans-continental format was killed by COVID. The Jaguares scaled back to only playing in a lower standard South American league (SLAR) and the Sunwolves folded completely, with Japan focusing on expanding their own domestic league. South Africa left too and joined in with European teams to form the United Rugby Championship. Trips are long, but the furthest distance is only around 6,300 miles (Glasgow to Durban).

Planes: *exists* Wendover: Write that down! write that down!

@BookofProverbs

3 жыл бұрын

I am deceased

@princesidon

3 жыл бұрын

@@BookofProverbs Oh dear. We're sending an emergency response right away!

New video: Wendovers logistics problem of finding new airplane related topics

@swissbreeze

4 жыл бұрын

Mika de Grote we get it. He talks about airplanes. Thanks for pointing that out.

@willtheprodigy3819

4 жыл бұрын

This joke is so lame. It’s not funny anymore dude.

@swissbreeze

4 жыл бұрын

WillTheProdigy these people set an alarm to make the same joke as soon as he uploads lol

@mikaxms

4 жыл бұрын

@@willtheprodigy3819 I found it a funny spin on an admittedly old joke.

NFL: having a team overseas is a big logistics issue for us! F1 teams: *LAUGHS IN F1 CAR*

@treecrab8192

4 жыл бұрын

In F1 it’s a lot easier because they have DHL

@dodoontherocks

4 жыл бұрын

@@treecrab8192 you kidding lol

@t0misin

3 жыл бұрын

@@treecrab8192 transporting cars, computers and engines is easier than transporting helmets.

@MrZachgonz

3 жыл бұрын

txmisin NFL does larger quantities of equipment than F1 though. I know when they play their overseas games it was something like 30 shipping containers per team. But I do think shipping equipment between many countries in such a short time span like in F1 would be very difficult too

@1m3agle

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrZachgonz f1 brings whole mobile office buildings with them. Plus the 100s of people needed at the events and the logistical nightmare of setting everything up quickly once its in a new country

As someone who's been a football fan for a long time, I haven't really considered this topic until now. Loved watching the video as I wait for the games to begin.

But seriously, your videos are some of the best quality on KZread, they are like mini documentaries, keep up the great work!

@stormysamreen7062

4 жыл бұрын

I'd hear him talk about anything.

@TheSnufking

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you're into airplanes lol

@greensphinx

4 жыл бұрын

TheSnufking which I am

@aespa690

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. They are interesting, but frequently have misinformation or completely miss important facts or background.

10:53 "London" *Puts marker on Leicester*

@loughlinpagnucci8182

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew McColl Same thing with Ann Arbor and Detroit

@heightya

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

Thanks for the informative video. It is a small point but I need to note that the number of players on the active roster of an NFL team is not 56. It is 53. Not all of them always travel to away games, though. The game day roster is 46, and the teams regularly leave at home players who need rehab on a minor injury (i.e. injury that does not land them on injured reserve).

I don’t mind the idea of the NFL expanding outside the US. But crossing the Atlantic is ridiculous. Let’s look to Canada and Mexico.

@MustacheDLuffy

4 жыл бұрын

That makes sense but Europe already has a very big fan base for football games

@tylerlarsen1842

4 жыл бұрын

Canada is a no-go zone for the NFL because of the Canadian Football League. I can imagine NFL teams being located in Mexico, but the political tensions between the US and Mexico might prevent that from ever happening.

@wyolaskan1868

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Larsen Which is a shame.

@Jack_Greene

4 жыл бұрын

There once was a nfl league in Europe.

@wyolaskan1868

4 жыл бұрын

Jack Greene Yes, but NFL Europe never crossed the Atlantic weekly for games, either.

1:07 Wendover: alright enough about that stuff, PLANE TIME

@AF-sb3jk

4 жыл бұрын

It's all almost completely wrong. The patriots own their own planes. Most NFL teams actually own their own planes but call it chartering. Basically the owners of the teams all have their own private planes. The Teams just :rent" the planes from the owners and it's called a business expense. He's usually pretty good, but this is fucking all wrong and just so stupid.

@pyrotechnic96

4 жыл бұрын

@@AF-sb3jk He literally mentioned that the pats own their own planes

@AF-sb3jk

4 жыл бұрын

@@pyrotechnic96 Most teams actually own their own planes. The Owners techinically own them then the teams use them and it's called a "business expense" on taxes. That way they save on taxes and wh

Lol could you imagine a London vs. Patriots game...I can already hear the fans cheering, "the Redcoats are coming, the Redcoats are coming!"

@tylerlarsen1842

4 жыл бұрын

THE BRITISH ARE COMING! THE BRITISH ARE COMING!

@VisibilityFoggy

4 жыл бұрын

I think that was a Family Guy episode years back...

@golfprocory

4 жыл бұрын

The Patriots played games in London in 2009 and 2012

@TheCastedone

4 жыл бұрын

@@golfprocory but they didn't play against a London team.

@herranton

4 жыл бұрын

Hell, the Redcoats would be a great name for a London team in the NFL.

Me: “ah a video not about airplanes” ....

In short, it's hard to fly that many players (especially big guys), that much support staff and that much equipment - particularly if the team isn't near an airline hub. This is multiplied for London games, a risk of expansion there. A college football team in Hawaii, and some foreign leagues in other sports, show long distances on a regular basis are doable.

me: this is about NFL teams, there’s no way that there can be airplanes in this! Wendover: hold my aircraft

@MatthewStinar

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you thought NFL teams traveled on busses?

@StratosTitan

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Stinar maybe they should more often? Especially if the flight is only 34 minutes, the bus ride isnt that much longer. Its also way better for the environment

@MatthewStinar

4 жыл бұрын

@@StratosTitan In that part of the country, driving is painfully slow and unpredictable. That's why they have bicycle messengers. Bicycles there are more predictable and often faster than driving. You would not want to be stuck on a bus in that traffic.

@gordonou7065

4 жыл бұрын

hold my 737 because it will stall and fall

The logistics for Formula 1 racing is far more daunting.

@angelrobles7201

4 жыл бұрын

Talking about that... A Renault trailer crashed on its way from Hockenheim to Budapest... and the race is next weekend. Wonder how they'll manage this, but surely for Wendover it'll involve some planes ;)

@mohameda.4851

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelrobles7201 It doesn't matter Renault is gonna DNF from the race anyway

@guanweihe7614

4 жыл бұрын

Angel Robles the trucks normally carry pit equipment not the cars So they may lack a few tables but they will race

@angelrobles7201

4 жыл бұрын

@@mohameda.4851 The truck crashed as an empathy movement towards the drivers

@angelrobles7201

4 жыл бұрын

@@guanweihe7614 Yeah, but that shows how the logistics can be thrown to the bin with an accident

They should just make another US based team instead and call it The Greenland Sasquatches

@gearldineschneck9422

3 жыл бұрын

Sam, I'm really becoming worried about this airplane obsession. I think it's time for an intervention.

"At least 2 football games in the UK in the coming years" *released in 2019* 2020: I don't think so!

@adrianbradley8513

2 жыл бұрын

I've been to see my beloved 49ers win both of their Wembley games but I would love to go and see a game at Spurs new ground even as a neutral fan. I grew up with 3 non American Football 🏈 fans.2 of them are Spurs fans and the other brother who has been intolerant and downright cheeky to me for liking American Football 🏈 instead of soccer,supports Chelsea. I'll take great delight in telling him that the NFL has helped Spurs to build their new stadium by giving them 💲20,000,000 the next time he's rude to me.

As a huge NFL fan, with interests in aviation and economics, this may be my favorite video of all time.

@Posirep

4 жыл бұрын

If only he mentioned the mid flight wrestling

@holthogan5562

4 жыл бұрын

Then it would just be perfect.

This man is probably the only person on Earth that likes the movie Planes better than Cars.

@bbolin5626

4 жыл бұрын

The Great CooLite Planes is not that bad. There are worse animated movies out there like the Angry Birds movie, Norm of the North, and Minions.

@antonwestergaard5211

4 жыл бұрын

i feel attacked

@Lemonminer

4 жыл бұрын

The Great CooLite well I guess there’s at least two of us.

@CliffCardi

4 жыл бұрын

Angry Birds was great (partially because the first half of the movie was an allegory to the Euro Immigration crisis)

@kvltizt

4 жыл бұрын

Planes, Trains and Automobiles Watch this instead ^

I remember seeing some reality tv show from the UK and someone on the show had a bunch of SF 49ers stuff in his office. I had no idea there was an overseas NFL fan base until then. Wild.

The nfl would really need two teams to make it worth it, then any team could go over and play both before coming back. Sorta like in baseball when the giants and dodgers went out west

@lollol-kz8vc

2 жыл бұрын

yep they would need 2 teams full of brits for brits to root for an against

@siyuanhuo7301

Жыл бұрын

@@lollol-kz8vc You can put one in London (Wembley Stadium), one in Paris (Stade de France), one in Amsterdam (new venue needed), and one in Munich (Allianz Arena or Olympiastadion) and put these 4 teams in 1 division.

I'm a Brit and I had no idea the NFL was popular in the UK.

@danieldelport1537

4 жыл бұрын

I had no idea it was popular at all but I think it would be good if there was a British team, i mean why not

@gurkaransahota9785

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Golden what’s an americaphile

@kyledavis4202

4 жыл бұрын

I’m an American and I only recently realized there were a number of die hard Premier League fans in the US

@paddy1389

4 жыл бұрын

Ireland here, plenty of my friends are NFL and NBA fans and will stay up to 2 or 3am to watch games and the super bowl was televised in a few pubs here this year

@dubstepphene82

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think they should put a team in the UK. Its stupud and there's no fan base

First time I've ever heard the phrase "American Football Pitch."

@dubstepphene82

4 жыл бұрын

Its a football field not a pitch

@de132

4 жыл бұрын

@@dubstepphene82 I think Wendover was joking around

@qwertyTRiG

4 жыл бұрын

@@de132 What? Wendover? Joking? Surely not!

@Rikenm14

4 жыл бұрын

@Not Bugarev Pitch also means a field. So he is not wrong. In World football, we say football field as football pitch.

@Zveebo

4 жыл бұрын

Wendover lives in the UK, where they're called pitches, not fields - so that's why he called them that.

Fascinating topic and expertly narrated. Thank you

I so badly hope it doesn’t happen… I think it’s a cool idea on paper to have a team in London, but given no one would want to play there, it would probably be absolutely terrible year Im and year out…. If Canada didn’t have the CFL I’d say Toronto would make a heck of a lot more sense for international expansion. I think Mexico City makes more sense given it is a similar time zone and much closer. I would be very curious as to how the logistics would work for that and how football has been received down there. Great video!

@Sashabug-gd2uk

8 ай бұрын

MLB has a Toronto team and used to have another Canadian team (Montreal Expos) and there don't seem to be any issues! Canada makes perfect sense as an expansion, if you can convince them to care about football.

Me seeing the thumbnail: "Wow, a Wendover video that isn't about airplanes" Me, literally a minute and a half later: "Well shit"

@TheMelbournelad

4 жыл бұрын

PiaNoONE well to be fair it’s about logistics

How many toyota Corollas would it take to transport an NFL team from East coast to west coast ? *OH WAIT WRONG CHANNEL* 😳😨

@horuslupercal3872

4 жыл бұрын

thats implying a player can fit in a corolla

@diggydice9041

4 жыл бұрын

the same amount as it would take to go from Washington to Philly..... I'll bet one of the NFL owners owns a Car Rental already so it would be no big deal. Or they could buy an Airline Company w/ Concession Stand money....... chump change for them to travel? peace

One thing that I feel like would be more wise than to make a team in London would be to expand to Canada and possibly merging with the CFL.

@outrageddeer2101

Жыл бұрын

The Canadian government wouldn't allow it seeing how its becoming more anti American by the year

@adamcoe

7 ай бұрын

lol merging with the CFL will never happen in a billion years.

OMG I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! Thank you for the background information, and explaining this so well! Having been part a crew that LOADED up a NFL team's equipment- with K-Loader involved to handle the larger boxes, holy cats, is there a LOT of equipment :-) And, it's heavy. Weight and balance are all important details when flying, and the larger planes do the best, more space up top, and more space in the cargo pits. I can't wait to watch more of your videos

@shintyty

3 жыл бұрын

Well, this did not age too well

@shintyty

3 жыл бұрын

Not to be mean or anything but

Jonh Hughes:Planes, Trains and Automobiles Wendover Productions: Planes, Planes and Planes

@the.abhiram.r

4 жыл бұрын

**Planes, Planes and Planeomobiles

A Mexico City team would work based on location in proximity to other teams. Not counting MC's other issues.

@sociedadnortena9514

4 жыл бұрын

Pete G imagine how the fan base would be 😳

@KeenJT

4 жыл бұрын

It would under your terms but from a marketing perspective it makes little sense

@Ivanmaradonaaa

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think Mexico City has more issues than NO or Detroit or LA for that matter?

@peteg475

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ivanmaradonaaa Any city outside the US has unique challenges for an NFL team. Do American players want to live there the majority of the time? Exchange rate for currency? Corporate and personal taxes and regulations in the host country, and how different are they from US law? Stuff like that. But like I said, MC's location makes it easier to deal with team logistics and travel than London.

@HusseinDoha

4 жыл бұрын

@@peteg475 For more than 7 months. No NFL games is played. Live in the USA if you want. MC have nice beautiful neighbourhoods. Those NFL players will feel comfy. Personal and corporate taxes?? You do know that if you pay higher taxes in a foreign country, you can offset it by claiming credit. That means the net cost will be zero. Exchange rate? They will be paid in dollars. Also the pesos is stable. Not how it was in the 1990s.

the "Wenstminster Twats" will be a great team!

@zyaicob

4 жыл бұрын

That just sounds like Saracens Rugby joke...

12:35 im so glad you wrapped the path around the edge of the map

NFL team based in a foreign city: You think: Logically, Mexico City and Toronto! Maybe somewhere in the Caribbean? You get: London :|

@sociedadnortena9514

4 жыл бұрын

d0su Mexico is a perfect market for football team since Mexicans lOovve American football

@MrBearcatjew

4 жыл бұрын

send the raiders to mexico city the nfl will double its profits!

@giths19

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrBearcatjew haha their Vegas stadium is not even complete and you want them to be moved to Mexico?

@fernando18455

4 жыл бұрын

@@giths19 Nobody besided Nevada wanted the Raiders to LV

@chaosXP3RT

4 жыл бұрын

Why not one in Puerto Rico?

When he mentions your favorite team, but only to mention that it's not as wealthy as the others...

@jdizzy2012

4 жыл бұрын

Lions 😢

@EZR725

4 жыл бұрын

Only time the Lions get mentioned smh

@Brickinasock

4 жыл бұрын

Not a bad thing though. Underdogs for life!

@vidcas1711

4 жыл бұрын

Surprised he didn't even mention the Packers, since the local airport is probably not even big enough for some of these planes

@User31129

4 жыл бұрын

Theres revenue sharing, unlike in MLB and most other pro leagues worldwide. So no team is really hurting.

Me: Wow a non airplane related video from WP 1 minute later: Airplane logistics Me: Oh well this channel is too nice to be annoyed

Great vid as always. I went to see the Jaguars vs Steelers in London in 2019 and it was excellent (as a casual American football fan)

London and Honolulu should get NFL teams at the same time. Double the logistical problems, but hey, both new teams rock the Union Jack.

@ringinfinity

4 жыл бұрын

Could make a Mexican or Canadan team we share a border with them and the travel between some of the teams would be almost as simple as playing division rivals. One problem is what division would they go to.

@derektheseahawkslightningf2932

4 жыл бұрын

London shouldn't get a team because just like the NHL and Canadian teams, it wouldn't be National anymore

@RM-jq5vi

2 жыл бұрын

would a game between the london and honolulu teams mean flying the other way around the world?

@KanyeTheGayFish69

Жыл бұрын

@@derektheseahawkslightningf2932 the nhl was never national though, the original 6 came from vogue the us and Canada

@kendallevans4079

Жыл бұрын

HW would need a stadium first. Aloha Stadium is a mess!

2:29 HIGHLY improbable actually. In the charter industry it is standard that you are not only paying for flight time, but also any ground time that requires pilots/crew/aircraft to sit and wait somewhere. As someone who works in the industry, I can tell you that ground pay rates are designed specifically to cover any cost of missing other flights.

@shankems2000

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking. There's no way in hell they're just gonna eat that cost, when they could be charging other passengers for flights.

@jokuakinyele6502

Жыл бұрын

Ok ya jackass logistics SNOB!!

Planet Earth: Guys, we have a warming problem Humans: We totally need a NFL team in London

@whoadoe

4 жыл бұрын

go dig a hole and live in it.

@tillerbuckets386

4 жыл бұрын

Shut up liberal

@deadeye4520

4 жыл бұрын

global warming is a socialist myth

@CyberNut930

4 жыл бұрын

deadeye yeah! It’s a myth....it’s currently 70 degrees outside in the middle of January here in Pennsylvania but I’m sure it’s fine. Nothing to see here! Move along!

@JETZcorp

4 жыл бұрын

@@CyberNut930 Average temperatures are up less than 2 degrees on average. I doubt if it was 68.5 degrees you would call that all normal. A hot day doesn't prove global warming anymore than a cold day disproves it. Weather is not climate. Both sides need to stop cherrypicking.

The Toronto Wolfpack played in the English RFL for 3 seasons playing home games in Toronto. It's been done. The team went under due to the pandemic. The league could easily buy a plane and fit it for teams to use for flying to London. The league is doing over $17bn in revenue. If they want to make it work, they will.

Logistics or economics of the fifa World Cup ?? Could you make a video on it

@nope2dat

4 жыл бұрын

CSPS it’s fairly simple give it to a tiny oil state and turn a blind eye to their moral crimes and they’ll pay for everything

@KillingTheMotivation

4 жыл бұрын

Other than hosting it, it’s very much a profitable venture for the rest of the teams. You travel there once and maybe do a few domestic trips dependent on where your next match is, and then go home. Only usually like below 50 people in total per nation too.

@c.t.i.d2204

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Finlay I know I hate corrupt fifa and qatar really wish it was hosted in England or Spain and portugal

@c.t.i.d2204

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Fradley I was more thinking of the building of infrastructure and the money involved as it takes years to prepare for this month long tournament

@rafaelluna2529

4 жыл бұрын

@@c.t.i.d2204 It had to be in Asia tho since FIFA rotates host continents. I would have liked to see it in China

This has a very simple solution. You build a practice facility in an american city. base the team there for 8 weeks while they play their road games then ship them to London for their block of home games. you could go 4 away + 8 home + 4 away and you've limited it to two transatlantic flights per season, the same amount any team takes to play in London currently.

@siyuanhuo7301

Жыл бұрын

This then gets more complicated if that team then makes the playoffs.

When Jacksonville gets mentioned.

I went to one of the London games this year, it actually seemed to have a very European feel, a lot of the fans had come over from the continent especially Holland and Germany so I think it's more a European thing than just British

Me: Wendover posted a video not about planes? Also me: 1:08 oh there it is

This is very enlightening. Thank you

NFL should probably invest in Starship from New York to Paris :30 mins.

FIFA World Cup logistics next, please!

@juanramirezgonzalez2213

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and why are NFL players paid less than most athletes for example MLB player contracts

@jorgemacias4006

4 жыл бұрын

@@juanramirezgonzalez2213 Women are paid less too

@EZR725

4 жыл бұрын

@@jorgemacias4006 🤣🤣🤣

@EZR725

4 жыл бұрын

@@juanramirezgonzalez2213 NFL has a lot more players to pay. So even though they make the most, instead of 10-13 guys a team they gave to pay 53. Also they have a real salary cap tip influence parity where other sports like MLB dont

@juanramirezgonzalez2213

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah what about guaranteed paid contracts the MLBPA has got those , and if girls want equal pay than maybe they can start showing up bkz we (GenY) went to and support say girls volleyball games religiously

Oh, no! An NFL team has to shell out another million dollars! NFL Owner: "Ms. Smith, the petty cash box, please."

@eternalreign2313

4 жыл бұрын

Haha pretty much what I was thinking. He even led off with how wealthy the league is. It would cost a west coast team $1m to fly to London? They pay 95% of their players more than that per year. QB's are making over $30m per year. I think they can afford it.

Hey! Video is great, same as pretty much all the content you post! Just wanted to point out that you mentioned Providence, Rhode Island twice as the home of the New England Patriots, when in reality they play in Foxborough, Massachussets. Keep up with the great, great work! Best, Luciano.

As mentioned, jet lag is a big factor. I witness this a lot in the Super Rugby league, where the travelling teams fatigue by the 3rd quarter. Another problem for leagues, located between time zones longer than 8 hours, is that the audience watches a lot of the live nights games in the early mornings where they stay.

Hawaii also has an NCAA exemption allowing them to play 13 games a year. This allows them to have an extra home game to help pay for the extra travel costs they incur because of their location.

Even in a video about the NFL wendover makes sure to talk about planes first

@RJT80

4 жыл бұрын

When you realize his videos are actually about logistics then it begins to make sense.

Your research is amazing.

I really like Wendover for making any topic interesting, I've never thought about logistics of NFL or any sport league but I start to watch and really want to know how it's done. And I'm even not from America and only seen a couple of SuperBowls on internet.

Hawaii also has 85 scholarship players and 70 players on its travel roster rather than the NFL's 53 man rosters. And they manage that amount of travel on a minuscule fraction of an NFL team's budget.

@twilson3133

4 жыл бұрын

I think the biggest problem would be convincing players to play in another country an ocean away

@urbanerabyss4387

4 жыл бұрын

Trenton Wilson Taxes would be an issue for players too

@horushyperion76

4 жыл бұрын

@@urbanerabyss4387 yeah for sure tho they get pay millions

No One: Wendover Productions: Everything must have a logistics problem

@luisquezada9806

4 жыл бұрын

Wendover: Everything must include planes

@thorskjelver8564

4 жыл бұрын

Everything does to some degree.

Shoutout to all the Baltimore cut scenes in this video!

Wendover: "Today: NFL" 1 minute in: "Planes!"

There is a similar example of this in a similar sport already. The English Rugby League added the Toronto Wolfpack to that countries' third division. What they did was Toronto would travel to England and stay there for about a month. They would come back and play a month at home with teams coming over from England. After the first two seasons the team was a win away from the first division. English League logistics though is different as there is no draft and salary cap. Many players that made the team were from Canada, United States, and Europe. Also Air Transat (a Canadian Airline) is the main airline that covers all the flying across the pond. I don't know if a British airline or American airline would do that kind of sponsorship. At the end it is very possible, if done right.

@VisibilityFoggy

4 жыл бұрын

I would be in favor of this if the airline that sponsored the team was Spirit and all the players had to climb into their economy section of an A320neo. I've been stuck on their flights to South America with all the "big seats" in front sold out. Walking is a challenge for the first 12 hours after I land.

@giths19

4 жыл бұрын

NFL makes too much money for anyone to give them anything for free. Also with the rugby arrangement you mentioned where Toronto goes away for a month the plane doesn't sit waiting for a full day and can resume service immediately after dropping the team off. Rugby teams carry less equipment which helps with the logistics and may not require a 767 an A321 or a 737 would be enough.

Me: Aw sweet a non airplane video Wendover: NFL CHARTERS FLIGHTS

Earned a sub from me. Appreciate the effort put into this vid

I’m really surprised about Canada not hosting a game.

@louispecceu2952

4 жыл бұрын

Arvind Talukdar they have the cfl and are generally closer to the US, so they already have exposure to football

@desmondd1984

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes Buffalo plays (preseason I think?) games in Toronto.

@zeroeffortmemes

4 жыл бұрын

Buffalo occasionally goes up there and the Packers and Raiders played a preseason game in Canada this year

@gusdrivinginaustralia6168

4 жыл бұрын

Also have Toronto Wolfpack playing rugby league in third division in England.

@Posirep

4 жыл бұрын

Eh. If you live in Toronto you're like an hour drive from Buffalo. But the downside is that it's Buffalo.

The earth is tiny. Imagine the travel costs for teams in opposite sides of Jupiter...

@vasishtvasudevan4059

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanswimmer1287 Truman Show

And here I am complaining how expensive my Lyft 4$ fares are.

@Bigavac

4 жыл бұрын

turns out you're not a football team

In Canada the CFL charters a few 737-200s and -300s from charter airline Nolinor. They have enough planes for the 9 soon to be 10 team league

Fantastic video Great job I love it

Viewers: So many airplane videos!! Wendover: NFL Video Viewers: oooo😯 Wendover: 😏... airplane video in disguise

@airwipe1639

4 жыл бұрын

Frederic Simeon he’s always been unloading aviation related videos... and people are still crazy about it?

@fredericsimeon6625

4 жыл бұрын

@@airwipe1639 oh don't get me wrong😅 my major revolves around engineering and aviation a d I love this

@emilianoramirez5398

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@edofluit6568

4 жыл бұрын

what the fuck are these cancerous emoji's

I talked about this in my sports management class and got laid. Thanks

@cullenzimprich930

4 жыл бұрын

Bronguero Rao lol

@riveraJG

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@zodddgod1782

4 жыл бұрын

@@riveraJG Riverplate better ok

@nicholaslivermore

4 жыл бұрын

Bronguero Rao your teacher must have really like it.

@Simplecracker3

4 жыл бұрын

Laid by a plane

I can see a future where the NFL has a European conference. A system in which most games stay within Europe, though they have a few cross Atlantic games a year and a new version of the super bowl where the American winners play against the European winners for an international title. A league where free agency and the draft is shared internationally as well. That would be 50+ years from now, but I can see it.

@jeffbenton6183

3 жыл бұрын

They used to have NFL Europe

@paulgaither

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbenton6183 - No, that was a minor league that was NOT connected to NFL teams. They did not bid with other teams in free agency, nor play games or make the playoffs or anything.

@jeffbenton6183

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulgaither yeah, I know it was a minor league. Their uniforms were awesome though

I hate ads but damn does this guy give some smooth transitions

You said "match" (not game) when playing overseas in London/Sydney. Awesome!

historian: are you familiar with 19th century history? wendover: I thought anything before the 20th century is myth.. historian: why? wendover: there weren't any airplanes before the 20th century.

As a Irish nfl fan I love the international games in London I go to all of them that I can

I was at the Jets game in Foxborough

I'm surprised no one else has pointed this out yet, but team rosters are 53, not 56, players.

@philipkvamme1389

4 жыл бұрын

I knew that sounded wrong. Also, the Patriots play near Boston, unless they just land there for some reason...

@zkbrhodas8753

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t watch American football

@GaviLazan

4 жыл бұрын

@@philipkvamme1389 maybe it's easier to get to Foxboro from Providence? It's about the same amount of time (40min/30mi) from each there and Logan, so maybe traffic and the size of the airport plays a factor. I also am pretty sure sure the Jets usually bus to games that are that close, I've seen posts on social media of them getting on and off branded busses on their way to games. Unless they drive them separately or ship them as well which seems even more ridiculous.

@philipkvamme1389

4 жыл бұрын

That must be it, since I think I saw elsewhere that the Pats fly their planes out of Providence. Thanks for the info

@FeelsGreatBaby

4 жыл бұрын

Also that the MLB makes more revenue than the NFL