NOTE: Elgato Capture JUST updated the day this review goes live to support direct 4K60 capture from 4K X and Facecam Pro. W00T!

@iFaFo_0

3 ай бұрын

🙌

@ComradeCaylor

3 ай бұрын

But still in SDR for 4k60 capture via 4KX?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

SDR, yes

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

No, as explained in the video, 4K 240FPS gets recorded in 1080p 240FPS @@ajaysourav

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

@@ajaysourav I mean, the Mk2 won't let you pass through 4K240 at all, so

dude the production in the editing of this video alone is amazing.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

I love that you always give a review that is in depth, simple, and to the point to help assist with any purchases or thoughts of purchases, keep it up my man!!

The themes, coloring, editing... Fantastic job. I totally cow farm mushroomed right back to my 80's teenage years and had to stop the video just to get a better look at the ambiance. Lots of effort and it shows. 👍☕🐢

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

I have the 4k pro mk2 pci capture card and 2 cam links but just ordered the 4K X to go along with it, thanks for the video

Great and helpful in depth video!!! Appreciate the video!

Great review, love the new transitions!

Patiently waiting for what seemed like an eternity for something like the 4K X. Ordered mine as soon as it went live. Can't wait to try it out.

Nice video man. I was waiting for this video

I applaud the effort you put into these videos, thanks for all the info!

i bought both, needed newer hdmi spec devices. great review/info!

Love the editing

Omg I should have watched this video first. I just upgraded to the 240hz monitor and just bought the 4kpro when I should have got the 4kX nooooo. Dnt know what I was thinking as I always come to your page for information for my tech. Great video love the editing and information you give, thanks

@tekmaniacstreams

2 ай бұрын

I don't know if you made the wrong decision. I have a 240hz monitor and if I want passthrough I need the 4K Pro. It sucks that it records at 1080p 240hz when it is passthrough 4k240hz but I can just upscale it to 4K60

I absolutely love your content and we all appreciate your hard work.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for the review. Updating my PC soon and only ‘view’ the content on pass through rather than in OBS and I think I’m gonna see if the price drops on the 4k60 pro mk2

love the review!

You always surprise me with different editing styles and presentation when it comes down to these. Well, what feel like "Passion Projects" as such. P.S You always the first person I know is going to make the most informative and educational video and about capture cards and encoding. Rock on and solid work.

Great video! Did you try it with Vertical plugin? Going on TikTok or another stream? For some reason it creates an encoding overload

The 5.1 audio capture is the more interesting news to me. I know it adds more bandwidth, but I really hope they can get that working with the 4K X at a lower resolution.

Great review. I can't wait to order a 4K X.

Thank you for including the latency to preview and to keep a historic data of it, many outright skip that part. For more casual games I use my HD 60 Pro without passthrough and play it on the 4K Capture Utility instead, couple more generations and we might have a capture card where you might be able to play without noticeable input lag on the Preview.

I haven't used a capture card since the Elgato HD 60 came out so I decided to get the 4k X. I'm using it for my ultrawide Samsung Neo G9 so we'll see how that goes. I also have my gaming laptop so I can use it for that whenever I'm traveling.

Just Ordered the 4K X..Im coming from the HD 60 S+ AND im pretty sure this thing is gonna run way smoother and my streams are gonna run way better.Hopefully it ship fast

Great review. Can you confirm whether or not HDR capture is possible on macOS?

Great review, picked it up today. Do you happen to notice posterization/color banding in passthrough when using 4k 120hz HDR? It seems to happen with a 422 chroma signal, which the PS5 outputs with that combo. I don't get the posterization with a direct connection.

Amazing coverage and excited to have a decent USB 4 capture device finally!

@AlbertStewart

3 ай бұрын

This isn't even USB 4. Once USB 4 capture cards come out, we'll probably be looking at capturing 4K240 HDR 😁

Thanks for the review! Is 4k limited to 4:2:0 on the 4k X?

Hello man, thanks for the great job you do, im a streamer and i stream with dual PC, been watching the video but i still dont know if is worth to get one of the new cards, i always want to improve my stream as much as possible, so would love to know if it would improve my stream the 4k Pro, when i already have the 4k60 PRO, when my main monitor is 1440p 144hz, thanks in advance for your answer. Keep going strong.

Great editing, love the VHS/crt vibe. What plugin did you use? It doesn’t look like red giant at all

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

I *plugged in* a composite video cable into a CRT TV

Great quality video as always Adam! Is there any information about the experience on having the new 4K 240hz monitors that have DSC compression... how well that will work together with the passthrough and capturing?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Covered in 4K Pro specs section. Won't work with 4K X. Can't really tell you "how well" it will work until I have one

@Rezzered

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox Apologies, missed that! thanks for info!

For someone who lives in Canada thank you for adding the Canadian price. got a follow from me!

Wonderful video! Excellent advice. I do have a question though. I’m getting the 4K Pro because I think HDR will be more important and prevalent as ours TVs and monitors continue to improve. How do I ensure my PS5 and LG G2 are limited to 4K60 so I can do full resolution HDR recording? I’m fine streaming 1080p, because 4K streaming is still…impractical, at best. But I want to ensure I can make full quality VODs.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

PS5 settings - Screen - 120hz, just set it to off

@Bigshot0910

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox thank you!

Great video. Took a couple years but it finally seems to be happening. Proper 4K high fps capture on the one side, AV1 support on the platforms ... maybe another year or two and it might become the new normal. On the other hand one has to ask if all of it is even necessary. 8-10Mbit AV1 at 1080p in HDR would tick every box for me as a viewer and not blow up my connection. And I think that is true for at least everyone who is watching on a mobile device as well.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Well remember, just because you're streaming in 1080p doesn't mean you want to be limited to only playing in 1080p lol

@noenken

3 ай бұрын

Totally valid. I just think that higher resolution (especially at high fps) doesn't really make a big difference on the viewer side. I watch 960p and sometimes 720p streams on twitch that are easily good enough for a second screen today. A bump to 1080 AV1 at anything over 8bit colors (fuck those muddy shadows) is gonna be enough for almost anyone. So I expect that to be the sweetspot for a long time. @@EposVox

thanks, it seems clear now that i may go for the "4K X" since im mostly worried for having that good quality on videos, as for streaming on twitch, i can just use my old HD60 PRO i guess (which is not important atm) im mostly focusing on youtube and i want those 4k playthrus to be good, what ya think?

So no multi-app with the USB 4k X only 4K Pro? It's not easy living for new tech.. Great video as usual!

Thanks for the review. I"m looking to record at 1080p 240Hz, not for streaming, but just to record. The PC is a prebuilt HP Pavillion with a Ryzen 1700 cpu and an RX 550 and a 240 Hz 1080p monitor, ports are USB 3.1. We are simply recording the windows desktop which is showing some lab software and a video stream from a USB camera. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Is this just a single PC setup? If so, a capture card does not help you

I love your videos and how in depth they go. So I currently have the 4K60 Pro with a 3070 RTX, 32 GB of Ram and a Ryzen 7 3700X. I use my capture card to record PS5 gameplay with the 4K Utility Software from ElGato and I use OBS to record my webcam ( I do it like this so I can have full control of my webcam when editing, since I edit/export at 1440p 60FPS). Would you recommend me getting one of these capture cards to upgrade mine or should I just really stay with mine? I definitely want to eventually upgrade the GPU and CPU in the near future.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

I mean, if you want to play in 4k120, yes get 4K X. If you’re happy with your setup now, don’t waste money

Would you be willing to review the TUF GAMING CAPTURE BOX-4KPRO? I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. I've been using it for a while. It works really well. At first it did have an issue with audio buzzing, which was fixed via firmware update. Other than that, the only remaining concern is the automatic firmware update in their software doesn't work, however I was able to successfully apply the update manually. Let me know your thoughts.

And I had just bought the avermedia. Time to return.

Apologies for the follow-up question (and I appreciate it may be difficult to say), but is the 4K X currently THE external capture device to get for retro and modern captures? I know there's been recent competitors from Genki and AverMedia. Not sure if it's in the video, but the weird refresh rates of certain retro consoles... does the 4K X deal with these? I haven't a RetroTink 4K yet, but I know there was a triple-buffering mode in the 5X to help with this. The original OSSC would potentially present it with more problems in how it line-doubles.

I got a question about scaling resolutions. Can I (or rather should I) record in 4k120 to 1440p 60fps xrgb and scale that footage back to 4k in a editing software? I have a retrotink 4k and I want to make sure that the video is clean. Btw big fan of your setup and capture card videos.

Is the future 5.1 audio update truly limited to the 4k Pro? Other outlets are simply saying it's coming with no mention of model restrictions. I suppose it could be somewhat assumed due to usb bandwidth, but between video compression (which you've noted), resolution/framerate downscaling, and potential audio compressions it doesn't seem like an impossibility for the 4K X to me.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

They are only looking into it for 4K Pro AFAIK yes. Likely a bandwidth issue.

So i am passing through to a 165Hz 1440 monitor (hdmi limited to 144) on a 4K 60 Pro II. I don't use the HDR400 (which is not hdr) either. I see no need to upgrade at all.

Good video ! Is the codec AV1 compatible with this card ? And what the maximum bitrate recording ?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

These send uncompressed video to your PC, there is no maximum bitrate. AV1 encoding requires support from your PC - RTX 40 series or newer Nvidia, Intel Arc, or AMD RX 7000 series GPUs. Which capture card you use does not affect which encoder you choose in OBS.

Great review as always. Thanks. And I think AVerMedia lost me... Elgato brought exactly what I wanted for an external card, even with the limitations that a USB capture card has. I just got frustrated with the internal card. Really, they could have gone further. But I've already decided which one I'm going to use now in my setup.

Interesting how the 4K Pro didn't receive any upgrades to the capture hardware over the 4k60 pro m2 but the latency was nearly halved, any thoughts on why that is?

@GrundleStiltSkin

3 ай бұрын

perhaps they could update the MK2 drivers, but won't, to sell new product

Hey, great video! Do you have any advice on how to fix screen flicker with 4K X ? My TV screen goes black for a couple of seconds, but not in OBS or the capture utility. I've been trying to fix that for almost a week now. 😒

just wondering if you have any thoughts about the ShadowCast 2 Pro, cant seem to find many videos about that card

Hey there! I can't seem to get a working 4K 120 recording from my PS5 with 4K X. I did get 4K 120 file eventually, but only in 7mbit bitrate and very laggy, using OBS. I got 4090 and 14900k, so my hardware shouldn't be an issue.

I know it ain’t much, but it’s honest work LOL. This was so well explained and well made, thank you so much! I have a question, I have an M3 MacBook Pro, and would like to use it as a display for my Xbox Series X/PS5. Will the Elgato 4K X work and display the full resolution at the MacBook’s screen?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the tip! Yes, you can fullscreen the preview in OBS or maybe Quicktime, though there is added latency compared to a native input on a TV/monitor.

Way better than what AverMedia recently released. Will have to wait until they patch in LCPM 5.1 audio passthrough (at a minimum) before I consider buying a 4k Pro though.

Amazing explanation but I think my streamer x fits my needs as of now. just one question tho, what mic did you use while recording this video?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

On-camera bits with MKH-416 (other than the iPad section), voiceover with Lewitt LCT 1040

@FallenKiid

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox thank you so much. Going to look into the 416, Tom buck says he uses the mkh 50 and his voice sounds good as well. Decisions decisions.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

The 50 is good

I own a 4k pro mk2 and was considering this downscaler you linked, but AFAIK it does not support downscaling VRR, so its not worth it. Might as well suck it up and get the new 4k pro

11:12 You forgot to put your NZXT latency specs in the list, as they should be up around the 34-36 ms range, right?

After when I upgrade my streaming system to something a bit more modern, the latest 4k60 Pro (I guess it would be considered Mk. III, don't know what happen to that bit in the naming scheme) is something I'm gonna get. Lower latency is always good.

It sucks the PCIE card doesn't capture 4K120, but at leas we now have something reasonably priced that does it in the 4K X.

@JonesTheLad

3 ай бұрын

Genuine question out of curiosity - why do you want to record in 120? As far as I’m aware, there isn’t any video platform that supports 120hz videos yet… so the only “benefit” I can see (at this current point in time) is to be able to watch your gameplay back in 120hz. But you can’t share it in 120hz anywhere, right?

@Vaguenificent

3 ай бұрын

@@JonesTheLadremember also that the higher the fps the more buttery smooth the slo mo on clips gets

@JonesTheLad

3 ай бұрын

@@Vaguenificent that’s true! I like that point!! Though that is a very niche use of the 120hz capability. I wish KZread would hurry up (we all know they will one day) & add 120hz support. Phones can do 120hz, gaming consoles, tv’s, computers/laptops… we’re all just waiting to be able to watch AND share 120hz content. One day… one day. 🥲

First off, amazing color grade, colors looking sweet!! Question….What encoder option settings did you use on your Mac ultra? For my M1 Pro Mac, it only plays back smoothly when using ProRes encoder, but then a 1 min clip is 7GB! All other Mac encoders give me overload error, & laggy playback. What gives?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

HEVC and ProRes!

@AJCoReTV

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVoxthx! HEVC def doesn’t work on slower M1Pro Macs. Looks like M1 Max/ultra chips & up can handle it. Thx for confirming 🎉

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Super odd since iPhone/iPad can do it

@AJCoReTV

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox yup, I’ve completed my testing today. 4K60 “streaming”: Only works with x264 with ‘extremely fast’ preset (anything slower leads to overload). For 4k60 “recording”: Only works with ProRes. This combo also works at same time, surprisingly. (ProRes Proxy has smallest file size @ about 8gb per every 3min.) official current OBS.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

@@AJCoReTV I feel like there has to be something else funky here; I was able to do 4K60 HEVC recording on my base 8GB M1 Mac Mini I used to have. I was able to hit encoder lag sometimes (still can on the M2 Ultra) but I was still able to do it o_O I can't remember if I tested it w/ gameplay (since we didn't have 4K60 USB cards then) but I recorded a year's worth of tutorials etc., even higher than 4K since I was doing 4K30 cam and 3440x1440p60 screen at the same time.

Good to see this supporting UW (3440x1440) monitors, even if Elgato hasn’t officially announced that yet. Has anyone been able to get SUW (5120x1440) working yet?

Is the definitive guide updated as newer OBS versions come out or its not necessary for a long time?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

I swap out videos as needed for updates, otherwise adding a new chapter for broad OBS updates that don't change the core content

Excuse me for mentioning that you prefer to use magewell with RT4K? I am considering buying the 4K X for RT4K, PS5 and maybe PC but your comment caught my attention, greetings

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

It was $1800 and I don't want that to go to waste, and it's the best result you can get for HDMI 2.0 4k60 haha

@Tevex_

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox I have noticed that in the RT4K there are some problems with the RGB masks, it is completely impossible to capture them with my current 4K60 Pro, nor can I capture them with the same ElGato software and I am interested in a solution and I thought that is why you liked your Magewell capturer better

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Well you CAN capture them, they just aren’t going to look right unless the video is played back at native 4K. Magewell doesn’t fix this lol

@Tevex_

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox ohh thanks👍

What reason do you have to believe that the Avermedia HDMI 2.1 card doesn't suppory ALLM while this one does? In the PS5 settings it says that if VRR is on, then ALLM is automatically turned on as well?

Thanks for the overview! Do you know if a 165hz monitor would work through passthrough 1440p or does the card lock at 144hz or 240hz?

I know it's a rude question, but the comparison is so hard to make, so I'm commenting. Would buying the GC575 be a much better choice in the end? I thought it would be hard to notice the difference between 30ms and 60ms, although the Inputlag is definitely higher at 60ms.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Why would that be better? It’s the worst of the HDMI 2.1 options lol. Would be better off with the USB options from either AVerMedia or Elgato

how would any of you capture a 1080p 360hz monitor for a 1080p60 livestream?

For the Latency is that at 1080p or 4k 120hz? I would love for a card that could be 2-1 Frame Difference.

Though im happy with my 4k60 mk2 that I snagged for 180 USD, I'm excited to see what elgato has to offer with these new capture cards!

Ok, so it seemed glorious at the beginning, but I can't capture 1440p 60 if I passthrough 1440p 240 Hz makes it pointless since I already have the 4K60 Pro MkII and capture at 1440p60/120.

@JonesTheLad

3 ай бұрын

They can probably change this with a few software updates over time

@Alexandra-Rex

3 ай бұрын

@@JonesTheLad I doubt it, since the 4K X can do it already.

One thing I'm glad I did was buy a upscaler to use my hd60 with my PS5, hopefully one day I could afford something better since I think my HD60 is dying after years of use.

I know this isn't the focus of this review, but how is the audio delay on either product? I ask that because I need to extract the audio without using these cheapo Amazon HDMI 2.1 Audio Extraction devices that never seem to last. It would be great to monitor that input in real time and ditch the cheap hardware. Maybe there is better purpose-driven hardware I'm missing. Using VRR on consoles with a PC monitor that has no dedicated audio out is a mess!

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Covered in the latency section; though you want to use Windows listen as (in my experience) OBS audio monitoring adds even more delay

@justpetettv

3 ай бұрын

You can also try Voicemeter Potato for transmitting audio from gaming PC to streaming PC. Unsure which has the better overall latency though.

U should review the Roland Bridge Cast X

Hey great video! Quick question, will the 4k x work on Mac m2 chips? Thanks

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Yep

Hey man, can we change sharpness settings in video config ,4k x ?

Can't it help single stream computers if I need to connect a camera with HDMI out? Even cameras that support webcam mode usually only does that in 1080p.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Well yes, but that’s for *outside sources*. A camera is still an outside source lol

Getting a 4K X. I've been waiting for a decent USB capture card for 4K, let alone 4K at 60 FPS. Used the link, I support supporting good creators.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

This card capture card will be good with the Nintendo switch?

U should review the genki shadow cast pro 2 its really good from what ive heard

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

It’s on my list!

@foundoasis7342

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox nice looking Foward to it

What is the benefit of 10gbps USB over my current HD60S+? Improved latency and stability? Thanks.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

And all the new specs it can pass through and capture… lol

I'm curious if the ezcoo 2.1 can downscaling 4K 120hz HDR signal to a 1080p HDR signal

Are we losing accurate color information with the mjpeg on the 4kx? It looked like in the comparison that it was darker. Can this be helped? 16:53

From a nerdy technical side the new cards are great to know, but from a painfree use side of things, the HD60X will be part of my rig for the foreseeable future. PCIe cards are messy not by themselves, but from the PC side of things, as any really usable PCIe ports are connected to the mainboard chip and not to the CPU, limiting the overall bandwidth to whatever is available on the connection between the chip and CPU. And that's a nightbare, since MANY parts in and around the PC are part of that party, including some M2 SSD connections, the ethernet, wifi and bluetooth connections, onboard sound and many usb ports as well. And the latter will keep me from going 4K on a usb card as well. Until I upgrade my PC, I will not stream in AV1 as well, so even in theory, HDR is out of the question here. Many things, I don't need to think about for now. Oh, one thing thats really nice to have on the HD60X: It gives me a seperate audio input for Windows. Do the new 4K X and 4K Pro have this feature as well? Because that - to me is even more crucial to consider.

upgrading from an elgato hd60s+ that has up until restricted passthrough to 4k60. the elgato 4K X will allow me to have 4k120 hdr passthrough and capture in 1440p60 hdr @£230 i think

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

It will!

@k_DEDb07

3 ай бұрын

thank you for addressing my comment love your videos. have a great Feb😎

Well it’s one step closer. But please just gimmie a 4k pcie card that can do 144hz pass through and have multiple input ports. I wanna be able to have signal from another pc and then a switch and ps5 without having to constantly swap cables.

Damn was hoping the 4k pro would allow 4k60 while passthrough 4k 240.

@tekmaniacstreams

3 ай бұрын

Also the only reason I don't want the 4k x is because I do use two instances of OBS.

Does this mean that I can capture 4k30p 10-bit 422, slog 3 footage from my Sony cameras into OBS onto the capture card, and color grade it in premiere? I've wanted to consider 10 bit capture recording from the 4k hdmi capture card from blackmagic because it does 10-bit, but was waiting to see if competitors would do something about it. Curious what this new gen of elgatos can do.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Not exactly. 4K30 can do 4:2:2 YUY2, 4:2:0 NV12, or 4:2:0 P010 (10-bit) So you can do 10-bit OR 4:2:2 OBS doesn't even have a 4:2:2 10-bit format it supports anyway

Great video! Quick question - for the 4K X, do I need to use the USB 3.2 C-to-C cable or can I use a USB C-to-A cable similar to the HD60 X? Just asking as I have limited USB C inputs on my motherboard.

@vincentvega3093

3 ай бұрын

USB-A will limit you to 5Gbps. Your motherboard port must be 10Gbps and up.

@ryantrimble4192

3 ай бұрын

thank you!!@@vincentvega3093

@Drew_Koch

3 ай бұрын

The port on your motherboard needs to support 10Gbps. So USB 3.2 Gen 2. It can be A or C.

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Yeah USB A isn't inherently limited to 5, I even showed 10gbps A ports in the video. Just need to get a 10gbps capable cable and make sure you have a 10gbps type A port.

Any news about color range on these new cards or its the same as before? Just watched your video about full vs partial color range..

@EposVox

2 ай бұрын

I’m not sure I understand the question. The video about full vs partial is a static concept, there’s not going to be any news about it.

@meugameplay4k

2 ай бұрын

@@EposVox in that video you said that some capture cards can handle full color range, with chroma subsampling 4:4:4, and that was not the case of Elgato 4K60 Pro..

@EposVox

2 ай бұрын

@@meugameplay4k all cards can handle limited/full color ranges. For chroma subsampling, yes, I discuss that in the specs section of this video lol

I have some Windows BSOD issues with the current Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk.II. Seemingly it'll happen at random. With the new PCI-E card, did it use a new driver package or the same ones? I'm almost tempted to upgrade to fix these random system crashes, and yes I've worked with Elgato's support for over a month, and still getting the crashes after driver upgrades, downgrades, you name it.

@sagi9407

3 ай бұрын

By any chance your 4K60 Pro MK2 is experiencing BSOD due to: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error: SYMBOL_NAME: SC0710_X64+264ec6 MODULE_NAME: SC0710_X64 IMAGE_NAME: SC0710.X64.SYS STACK_COMMAND: .cxr; .ecxr ; kb BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET: 264ec6 FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_SC0710_X64!unknown_function OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64 OSNAME: Windows 10 FAILURE_ID_HASH: {8c8cdb1b-a17d-eadd-623d-c40d05e49c5d}

@sagi9407

3 ай бұрын

I've tried current, older, beta drivers suggested by Elgato tech support for over 2 months. Nothing has helped. The SC0710.X64.SYS error is asinine.

@Aldranis

3 ай бұрын

@@sagi9407yes, that’s exactly what happens. The older driver they had me downgrade to has made the BSOD less frequent, but it will still happen on occasion.

@Aldranis

3 ай бұрын

So I received my 4K Pro and installed it about an hour ago. I can confirm that it does use a different driver package. Latest as of 2/4/2024 is version: 1.1.0.202 from 12/8/2023. So far no SC0710_X64 BSOD's, but I'll monitor it over the next month and will respond if I get one.

@sagi9407

3 ай бұрын

👍 nice, keep us posted!

looks like we are gonna have to wait for another generation to be able to stream proper ultrawide. Thanks for the review!

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think so, just gotta wait in Elgato to get the EDIDs sorted and driver updated

@primo8825

3 ай бұрын

oh right, thanks so much clarifying that! I thought because the capture hardware was the same no more could be done. I will soon up upgrading my 100hz ultrawide to one of the new 240hz ones so I can't wait for a product that can handle with it! Tired of using geforce experience!

Question, what pc mother board do you recommend, it looks like my pc will need to be revamped..

So do we still need the Elgato Chatlink/Pro in conjunction with an HDMI Audio Extractor for gameplay audio with the 4K Pro while using a wireless headset with consoles?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Won't work for that

I am returning my 4k Pro because I wanted to capture 4k HDR while passing through. I did the Elgato suggestion and it says if I have a Ps5 playing HDR at 120hz that it can record in 4k 30 HDR which would be fine for me. But your spreadsheet says that if I have a 4k 120 HDR input I won't be able to?? Who's wrong?

@EposVox

2 ай бұрын

I keep going through their capture card selector and I cannot replicate this. It chooses 4K Pro if you choose windows desktop, but it doesn’t claim you can capture 4k30 HDR from 4k120

@EposVox

2 ай бұрын

Also Elgato has the exact table I showed posted here: help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/articles/23479165158029-Elgato-Game-Capture-4K-Pro-Supported-Resolutions-and-Frame-Rates

Can this capture cards support wierd 16:10 rsolutions, like for example 2880x1800 - pass trought ?

Hold on.. 16:18 so it records 4K at 120Hz at MJPEG format only? Not NV12!

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Yes. NV12 would be WAY too much bandwidth for USB lol. That being said, I showed comparisons; I'm not seeing ANY compression artifacts in it, and it's full range 4:4:4 so it's a compelling option

@MJ7productions

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox Yes! It's way too much for USB bandwidth that's why this should have been the PCIe version! I'm not a streamer I usually record my gameplay and edit it later, so were you able to import your recordings in Premiere Pro? Is there any issues with this format in editing? I was going to buy it, now I'm re-thinking about it 😅 especially that YT still does not support 120Hz!

@MJ7productions

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox also, what's the maximum bitrate that the Elgato 4K X can capture? Is there any picture improvement compared to Elgato 4K Pro Mk.2?

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

The recordings work as any other OBS recording, nothing about this card changes its compatibility. There is no "maximum bitrate" on any modern capture card. They send uncompressed images, so there's no quality to improve in that regard

@MJ7productions

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox I usually use Elgato 4K Software, I can adjust the bitrate to 140 mb/s using 4K Pro Mk.2. So I'm not familiar with OBS Studio. So what's the major downside in the different format if it's compatible? Is it color degrading?

Hi, I followed the extra steps for audio for game capture for macOS within OBS - but there's still no audio being captured. Just video. Please help!

How would you game at 1440/360 or 1440/480 and stream at 1080/60?

5:52 the fact that it cannot record in 4k60 from a 4k120hz feed makes the avermedia the clear winner. I was worried for a sec I got the GC553g2 over this lol. (EDIT: lol nvm saw your comment) But I am still having handshake issues with the PS5 to the OLED :( (Edit 2: I just saw the end of the video where you talk about ALLM, is that really not supported on the GC553G2?!, could that be the reason why I am having handshake issues since that is enabled??) Where does it say that this capture card supports that feature while the Avermedia one doesn't ?? I feel scammed knowing that wow... Thanks in advance & awesome editing in this video. THUMBS UP!

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

AVerMedia is not "the clear winner" wut? Their PCIe card is literally their USB card on a PCIe carrier card. If you're going to get a USB card anyway, get the 4K X which can do more capture specs than the AVerMedia, at HALF the latency....

@gster109

3 ай бұрын

Yes I edited my comment because I saw your pinned comment. Could you please clear up my other question in regards to how you know that ALLM is not supported on the Avermedia 4k120hz card ? Could that be the reason that I am having those "Invalid signal & random drop outs on this card?! I would be so upset if thats the case.. I didn't even think that it would be a drawback since it seems like such a basic feature that OLED owners take advantage of...@@EposVox

A side by side comparison of different video formats like mjepg , nv12 , and xrgb seems quite futile on a KZread video one KZread’s server side video conversion has taken place

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Well that’s why I zoomed in, but also that… proves the point lol you can’t notice in videos

If you wanted, could you use the 4k x to record on a single pc. I want to buy it for my current xbox series x but plan to get a pc in the future. Would I be able to use it for that pc instead of needing to buy a recording software?

@EposVox

2 ай бұрын

You dont need to buy recording software. OBS is free. You COULD use it to record your PC, but it would provide you nothing of value over using OBS and would be a waste of money

@gryski

2 ай бұрын

@@EposVox Oh okay, thank you!

I have no clue if i should upgrade to the 4K X since i got my 4k 60 Pro not even a week ago. I mainly use it to capture my PS5 so 4k 60fps is kinda more than enough for most of the games but since the 4K X has a similar pricetag to what i paid for the 4k 60 Pro i'm wondering if i shouldn't just refund the 4k 60 Pro and go with the 4K X to technically get more value for my bucks to be prepared for the future

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

Get dat upgrade

@eirik1068

3 ай бұрын

Do it!

Wouldnt capturing with the 4k pro in ultrawide still give you that letterbox effect anyways? Thats mainly the reason why I've stayed away from ultrawide for some time

@EposVox

3 ай бұрын

I mean, it captures the native ultrawide resolution without letterboxing. So you could make native ultrawide content, integrate it into a layout, or crop the sides off if you have a centered HUD (that Splitgate footage crops perfectly to 16:9 w/ the HUD centered), however you want. But no, the card doesn't magically make the footage not ultrawide lol

@ZeGamingOfficial

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVox Very useful info. Thanks. I might do some more research on ultrawide streaming first before getting one