Kristen: "It's got great induction noise!" Subaru Artificial Sound Engineers: "Everything is going as planned, prepare the clones."

@Victic005

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Piffydaily

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@pd4165

2 жыл бұрын

As long as it's better than the old model, which sounded terrible.

@Stigmaru

2 жыл бұрын

The Active Sound really isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I ended up turning it off but that was because I need it quieter so I can talk on the phone

Is it me or does the BRZ’s engine note sound a little less artificial than the GR 86? Also Kristen’s new hair is an excellent g-meter.

@RAZGR1Z

2 жыл бұрын

Sup Topher! I'm not sure about the differences in the engine noise but I'd opt to have the dealer turn it off.

@damienlee1165

2 жыл бұрын

I had noticed how much toyota really like pumped in noise in the 86 and supra. Kinda ruins the car cause the noise sounds so fake and gamey.

@MadelnMachines

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much is artificial

@ciello___8307

2 жыл бұрын

it kinda sounds like a mild K24 to me

@yah5o

2 жыл бұрын

@@MadelnMachines you can tell by comparing the drive-by footage with the in-car one. It's all fake. On the outside the tires are louder than the engine. Awful.

Owning a first Gen gt86 and seeing the successor makes me extremely happy to know Toyota and Subaru still care about driving.

@nico3727

Жыл бұрын

what u think about 370z

@Lobo_Argent

Жыл бұрын

@@nico3727 I liked it the few times I’ve driven it on track, but you can tell it’s not as connected and definitely not as light as the 86. Still, it’s faster than the twins, but not as fun (in my opinion). Still a great car if you choose to go with it!

Zack looking remarkably cute today As to the knee issue, there are simple add on you could get. Silly that they would take them away though.

@bfife22

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in the first gen they added them in the second model year, idk why they would not think to put them in this new one haha

@ciello___8307

2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@christianmejia9069

2 жыл бұрын

This the comment 😂

@CrunchyBaguette

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta save something for a minor refresh or a new model year

@scottanthony3426

2 жыл бұрын

I can envision aftermarket (Perrin?) coming up with some knee pads. The lumbar support is a bigger issue for older drivers and longer drives. I have a '17 Limited, and that aspect of the seats is sorely lacking. The seat tends to push your torso forward into a "C" shape. I resolved it by using a small half roll (half of a cylinder shape, flat on the back) lumbar support. Would be interesting to see someone drive this new model at night and see how the headlights work. On my '17 they are utterly bizzare. Apparently there is no true high or low beam. Low beam is achieved by means of a shutter (think "eye lid") that drops down over the top half of the light source. This creates an absolutely bizzare cut off in which you have lots of light where you have light, then complete blackout above a very sharp horizontal line. It is absolute crap for hilly driving. I hope they rectified this. The engineers in charge of that should have been fired and it should not have been allowed to go to production wtih that set-up. Unfortunately it is not something you discover during a test drive, as most often those happen during daylight hours. I'd sure as hell drive a new one at night to see how well the adaptive lights work.

Matt cruising at 70-95mph through the canyons in 3rd & 4th gear like it’s nothing while giving great commentary, much respect.

@ciello___8307

Жыл бұрын

Pretty nuts. Even 60 up in those canyons feels sketch to me

Few cars which Matt has no complaints on the driving experience (aside from ergonomic complaints). This was one of them. I really want one.

@samshaw1996

2 жыл бұрын

Watch his drive with the Crawford brz.

@andrewgarcia3136

2 жыл бұрын

Get an 86 over the brz imo. 86 is a little more tail happy

@chaseeason6789

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewgarcia3136 you can't get one yet, brz's are already on boats to dealers.

@michaelvl494

2 жыл бұрын

Winding canyon roads are also one of the best experiences in the 86/brz. This review shows this car in its natural element

@carpathiandevil

2 жыл бұрын

I had a 2013 FRS and loved that car. Just did suspension, tires, tune and exhaust and it felt perfect. I enjoyed driving it more than my 400whp 2016 built STI. Now both are gone and I'm getting the itch again. I want the new Nissan Z but the more I see the new GR86 and BRZ, I'm starting to have second thoughts.

You would be so surprised at how much weight you can drop by installing aftermarket exhaust, coilovers, lightweight battery, wheels, and brembo or AP racing calipers. My 1st gen 86 was 2650 lbs and it had a turbo and front mount intercooler. Insane fun

@NarekAvetisyan

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. How much did your upgrades cost without the turbo?

@ciello___8307

Жыл бұрын

Yes but theres a reason why its not like that stock. High performance parts cost a lot of money and add up

Picking up my GR86 base tomorrow morning after waiting for 11 months :')

It be cool to do more guest one takes in the canyon. Obviously still keep Zach, but an occasional passenger with Segura, Liberman, etc would be fun to watch.

@Mayor-McCheese

2 жыл бұрын

Segura especially lol

@teoshineent.9244

2 жыл бұрын

With Cammisa 👌🏾

@redlion145

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Kristen's comments, and I always enjoy Cammisa. It's nice to get another viewpoint without having to watch a separate video. Bring on the crossover content, so long as it doesn't break a winning formula.

@fatguyonthc

2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to push for Tom and Bert to do one of Cleetus’ ppv. They would have had a ton of fun at the Danger Ranger and I think Garret might have a future as a standup.

@uniawesomeness

2 жыл бұрын

2nd this

This car is the formula of a true driver’s car; lightweight + RWD + manual + naturally aspirated

@papa_pt

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the RUF Yellowbird and all GT2s aren't true driver's cars by that then. Audi quattro, Renault 5 Turbo, etc

@CarsOverPeople

2 жыл бұрын

@@papa_pt Some of those are definitely driver’s cars too, in their own rights, but the rawest & simpliest formula is what I listed. It’s a formula that has & will always work.

@Vamppas

2 жыл бұрын

Just like GMA T50! But it is even more lighter, 3x more power, much more revs, 3x more cylinders. Most epic drivers car ever.

@alfredwilsbury8397

2 жыл бұрын

Man a GT3 would be sooo nice

@brencelt

2 жыл бұрын

Why this isn't turbocharged is beyond me??! Another 100hp, still an immensely enjoyable 'drivers' car.

I’ve owned multiple WRX’s and now I have a BRZ. Hands down, it is way more fun to drive than any other car that I’ve owned.

Thanks to the LA Canyons mod in Assetto Corsa I can recognize where they're going 😁

@Zaratium

2 жыл бұрын

same hehe

@tmolne117

2 жыл бұрын

alternatively you could move to the base of the mountains where they film and experience it yourself. Not that I did that.

@salg3014

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know where they are? I'm in socal and would LOVE to take that drive.

The moment Matt said he thinks the steering wheel is a little small, man I would love to see you drive a newer Peugeot with their tiny steering wheels.

My E36 M3 was the perfect car to me. My current 13 frs is good but slow and unrefined. This seems to be the perfect trade off and probably my next car.

@IdontNeedHandles

2 жыл бұрын

same here. my track e36 m3 handling is perfect but it has some reliability issues now. im thinking of test drive brz and get it if it feels as good.

@R34GTRR35

2 жыл бұрын

Gee how exciting

@6mtzhp55

2 жыл бұрын

Loved my E36 but even meticulously taken care of, they used a lot of glue and it's coming undone. Went to an S2K, but if this generation of BRZ/GR was available I'd be really torn. It might not be much slower than a tired, high mile S50B30US or S52B32US.

@GearheadSynthesis

2 жыл бұрын

@@6mtzhp55 I did the same thing and regretted getting rid of the 36.

@6mtzhp55

2 жыл бұрын

@@GearheadSynthesis I still love the memories with it, but I'd want an Estoril Blue manual and those just will never be worth what they ask today (to me) since inflation happened. Maybe if a recession collapses the market I will put one in my garage.

Thank Subaru and Toyota for bringing back the 90's vibe and refining it into a modern weapon.

The 86 at 10:37 be like "oh hi"

@necromoni

2 жыл бұрын

was looking for this one

@IdontNeedHandles

2 жыл бұрын

i envy your eyes :)

I have a boosted first gen and I gotta say, still absolutely love it. It solves all the problems the original had and with the right mods you only suffer from the added weigh, which is mostly nullified from the added power. This new gen BRZ looks great, but I much prefer the old style.

Kristen is great. Happy to see her on video.

This should be a massive hit, well done Toyota/subaru for catering to the enthusiast

I've not seen a single bad review of BRZ/GR86. I have it slated as my next purchase.

“You can spend that and not even look back about it”…. I might just do that one day soon!

In this episode, we learn that Kristen is smaller than Matt :surprise-pikachu:

I've been blown away by how amazing the lights are on some modern cars and how terrible they were on others. As someone who spends half their commute in darkness, this is great information to know about a car. VERY rare to hear anyone comment on something so critical.

As a former owner of 1st gen BRZ, really excited to drive the new one. Plan to buy one of the special editions with STi parts once they are out.

Hey, Kristen is back. Cool.

I like the sass, this was a fun one!

@TheV8Pumpkin

2 жыл бұрын

Bro how did you wst h a 20 min video in 3 mins lmao

Cheers Matt and Kristen, enjoyed the video. Knew it went pretty well, surprised how nice it sounds.

Watching this because I worked on an older BRZ today and enjoyed the drive outside of the things the owner didn't fix. Feels alot like a bigger S2000 but the power doesn't have to be wrapped out where you feel like you're hurting the car to have fun. Not my A4 but would buy 1 given the right circumstances.

One of my favourite SmokingTire videos - manual, lightweight, beautiful driving and fabulous roads. Also I love the interior of that motor.

Been waiting for this one, the only car I'm looking at right now.

@normanparthiban4383

2 жыл бұрын

Same this thing is very exciting. Can’t decide if I wanna go fresh off the lot or used in 1 year

@RmB9104

2 жыл бұрын

@@normanparthiban4383 buy new dude. Buying used tells nothing to the brands to keep making cars like these.

@normanparthiban4383

2 жыл бұрын

@@RmB9104 I agree. that’s the dilemma. I’m not super wealthy and I just graduated college a year ago so I’m trying to be careful with money

@adamb3129

2 жыл бұрын

@@normanparthiban4383 get new. Used car market is crazy and use 1st gens are going for more than new 2nd gens. Get a car you know hasn’t been beat on imo. Unless you get an absolutely amazing deal

@RmB9104

2 жыл бұрын

@@normanparthiban4383 I get it. I'm the same LOL. But if last gen is anything to go by, I'd expect the car to be for sold 9 years. Plenty of room for money saving.

Awesome! The last time Kristen was in a TST video was the 720s spider video if memory serves me well. (I'm aware she's on the pod often)

The hair G-meter shows how quick Mat is going. Otherwise the camera is disguising it a bit.

Kristen & Matt, that was fantastic thank you all the way from down under .

I really enjoyed when you reviewed the Crawford version of the last BRZ, I can't wait to see you review their take on this model.

I want to put in an order now. Thanks for another awesome video!!

Wait is this the Kristin Lee that did that amazing E60 M5 video on Cape Cod all those years ago then ended up writing articles in the big time. If so, yay!

Just ordered mine. Cant wait 😁

The intelligent and useful dialogue is much appreciated. Thanks, Matt and Kristen!

Seems like an absolute steal at this price point too! Thanks for the banter as well, wouldn't mind more guest appearances in One Takes :)

I didn't buy the last one, bought the NDrf instead. THIS is the improvement I was waiting for.

I love this thing, I can't wait to drive one. Great review.

I nearly bought a less gen BRZ (in yellow interestingly enough) But I opted instead for WRX that was going for nearly the same exact price because of the extra performance and room. This new BRZ is totally on my radar for my next car purchase

I really like a one-take format. Very upfront and real

This is like the ultimate weekend track day platform on a budget. With the increased rigidity and center of gravity as well as keeping the weight down and getting the 2.4, you could build this thing up in a hurry. Upgrade the brakes, throw on some 2 or 3-way coilovers and maybe a few bracing components and/or aero and wring out a little more power and you are good to go for some serious lap times. It would take on cars with significantly more power and much bigger price tags while still comfortably getting you to work during the week.

@heyhayhay247

2 жыл бұрын

Let's take your statement and test it... $30,000 car + $3,000 BBK + $3,000 coilovers + $2,000 for ~25hp + $1500 aero + $1500 better wheels/tires = $41,000 This is assuming you do all the work yourself. OR...just buy a 987.2 Cayman S and save the rest for track time.

@PapaTroll86

2 жыл бұрын

@@heyhayhay247 Even if you did find one in great condition for that price, you would still have to track prep it. This will cost even more since the car will be at least moderately used. And maintenance and repair costs (even if you do it yourself, which you would absolutely have to in this case) would be SIGNIFICANTLY higher for the Cayman S. It would add up exponentially faster than the BRZ and the longer you track it, the less budget friendly it will be. In 10 years when this BRZ is the same age as that Cayman S, it certainly won't cost $30k (if you want to compare it to a 10 year old Porsche.) There are many more budget friendly builds if you are on a tighter budget than either of these cars, especially if you are turning to the used market, but if you are looking for a brand new car to have fun with on the track, this would check a lot of boxes.

@heyhayhay247

2 жыл бұрын

@@PapaTroll86 the Cayman is going to need brake pads and maybe some minor cooling upgrades at most. FCP Euro's insane lifetime warranty makes maintenance cost a nonissue. Then, in 10 years, the same Cayman will be worth 2 or 3 times what the BRZ will. All that mod money spent on the BRZ won't be worth anything on the used market.

Really liked this video. Loved the guest! ❤🔥

You nailed it. Every word well placed.

Wow seeing how impressed you are I'm happy I ordered one! 😃

The video quality is so good at 4K now, thanks for upgrading those GoPros

What a nice surprise !!! I miss Kristen... Met her a couple of times at the Redwoods... Wow please bring her along on more videos... Hola to Kirsten!

Oh my God KL!!!! So excited for this.

Oh wow. I see where Subaru got the tail lamps for the new WRX. BRZ sounds good from in the cabin and wow, it looks like Matt was bombing through the canyons in that thing. I love a good four cylinder power plant. IMO, 220+hp is plenty for a car like the BRZ. Great tires for the owner's local road conditions, and as Matt mentioned, brake hardware improvement, will make that car amazing.

This looks like a blast, I am tempted to test drive one.

So excited for the GR86 - all the reservations I had about the first gen car are now gone. GR86 and 2022 Tundra in the driveway - I like that combo!

Matt I’m 5’11” 185lbs and I had issues in the 2013 BRZ I tracked because no knee pads. So much so that I bought aftermarket ones. So your point is valid even for “smaller dudes”. :) Great episode, and more Kristen in the car please. I found myself agreeing with her a lot and you two have a good chemistry. It’s clear that your friends and can share open and honest opinions.

have one of these pre-orded and I can't wait till it comes in! great vid!

@noahbusker2674

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@adamadam6351

2 жыл бұрын

congratulations !!

@HR-lm3jh

2 жыл бұрын

what color?

@yowadup1000

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys !

@adamb3129

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! You’re a smart man

Matt is the Best Damn Car Guru Review Man on the interwebs. I bought my Suzuki after watching his DRIVE Episode years ago, So satisfied with that purchase cant stipulate that more, Cute Car Gal, she should not be afraid to drive on cam, everybody's got to do things to challenge themselves. It's exciting, makes your heart beat, makes you feel accomplished after, makes you feel alive.

As a first gen owner, can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

I have a 2016 FRS with headers and a tune and I'm very excited to get in one of these and see if it wins me over.

Just ordered one should be here next month ☺️☺️☺️

I really like the look of the new BRZ, the front end looks almost Viper-esque

Love it...looks like a lot of fun and love the Suby tuned engine....also the passenger is cuter than Zach haha!

Awesome, now I need to know how to drive standard before I get one.

Can’t wait to cop one of these

Zach or Kristen, it’s always nice to get two opinions or perspectives on these drives 👍👍

The Murai is sold in New York, I saw one last week and I was very surprised because I thought the same thing. I live in Orange County NY btw…

That gas door effectively makes it a three door! :)

I drove one of these this weekend back to back with my 2013 BRZ. It was nice, there's noticeably more torque down low. The interior is nicer. The car felt a little softer than mine in a way that wasn't particularly appealing to me. My car feels a bit more raw/connected. I was seriously thinking about upgrading, but I found I preferred my car. My car with a supercharger would be better than the new car in every way except interior and reliability.

I went from never wanting the old model to really wanting this new one. It's finally a proper sports car.

16:42 "this thing rips" is probably one of the best compliments you can give a $30k car

10:30 Nice gearing, 2nd is good for 60 MPH 16:00 Fastest new car for $30k? 17:30 A good S2K replacement, NA motor, high revving, lightweight; potentially reliable

Can't wait to see the GR86 review! Like the styling on that one more & will daily drive it haha!

Fully agree with Matt that it needs knee pads. I banged my knees constantly on the pre refresh first gen BRZ. Sad they didn't make a comeback with this new gen.

Daily drivable sportscar. Thank you for bringing this in 2021. 👍

I always got the impression the original was good but not quite great. Sounds like it's got past that point and is now great. Also, spectacular light in this vid!

I like the GR86 front end better, but they have different sway bar mounting points and setups. It would be hard to choose one without driving them both. Of course parts can be changed, and even with the inflation I expect the Subaru to be lower in price. I hope many people buy these cars. A lightweight RWD naturally aspirated engine car with a manual transmission won’t be available for much longer.

great vid

Kristen Lee is at The Drive now too!? My day has been made!

Guys, please do more shows together. Always enjoy your joint shows/podcasts.

I had a first gen frs and the knee pads are definitely needed

I bought a memery foam back rest for my car for $12 at TJMAXX and if your doesn't have lumbar support I highly reccomend.

I’m gunna have to buy one now! What are those watches? More information please.

Man I'm liking this car more and more, it really does sound pretty nice. I want to give it a try. Also yes mat, as a tall guy myself banging my knees in cars happens all the time. I wish they'd stop putting controls and pointy, hard surfaces near the side of the legs.

@weasle2904

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that sound is very fake, coming from the speakers. Matt criticized it when he first drove it but when his lady friend said "it sounds nice" he just went along with it lol

@Globbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@weasle2904 Yeah I understand that, I'm not a fan of the speakers myself. It did seem like the Toyota variant was worse.

@weasle2904

2 жыл бұрын

@@Globbs The GR86 actually seems to the more track focused variant. It's engine is slightly more powerful.

@spartanV48

2 жыл бұрын

@@weasle2904 both BRZ and GR86 are the same engine

I have the exact same model and colour on order. Arrives early next year.

I feel like if this came out in 1994, collectors would be paying huge bucks for it now. Definitely a future classic.

@sebastiantorres1358

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I can see these cars going for a lot of money in like 15-20 years

@omarawilson2853

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiantorres1358 unfortunately. I’d hate for it not be accessible for young new enthusiasts 20 years from now, especially when that’s the point of it.

@balancemode4112

2 жыл бұрын

straight facts

@VirtualGuth

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiantorres1358 I highly doubt it as I imagine within that timeframe we'll know exactly how much time the ICE will have left on our roads. The vast majority of people will applaud such news or won't give a crap either way. The few car enthusiasts left at that point won't likely want to shell out much money for ICE-based vehicles once they know that they'll be banned, or that they'll no longer be able to buy gasoline (or both) in the near future. Drive 'em & enjoy 'em while you still can, that's what such cars are built for anyway.

“DONT you dare crap on Honda 4 cylinders, Honda makes great 4 cylinders” lmao

@jpslayermayor9293

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct of course, but they certainly dont sound melodious or exciting since days of V-tech and S2000 are past. So Kristin was right too.

CG Lock device for seat belt will help hold you in place better and require less bracing with knees, feet, etc

I had to put knee pads after a day long autocross so no worries Matt…..I’m with you as well 😅

Matt Love your vids brother. You forgot one thing about not turbo charging these vehicles.. It would add cost $$. Not only that neither Subaru or Toyota wants to compete with themselves and market a lower cost competitor to the supra or WRX. I had an STI in '06 it was a fun car.. I would totally go for a NA car like this for the pure driving fun !

Knee pads were one of the first mods I did in my 1st gen BRZ

I want the manual version but don’t want to give up the Eyesight system and have heard negative stuff about the weak synchros on the manual transmissions. My Subaru Forester Wilderness has Eyesight system and I really like it. Also does this car not have a spare tire?

With your experience of driving Porsches do you think i will miss my 997 c2s if i get this? I feel the 997 is a little quick for the b roads in england and this looks more fun. What are you thoughts. Thanks.

I get bruises on my left knee EVEN with the knee pads on my '17 when I autocross on 200TW tires.

8:50 Matt: Do you remember the knee pads?” Me: lol

I was wanting the cheaper premium ($2500 less, and I like lightweight 17" wheels), but only the Limited has a blind spot warning system, and that's a must-have for me (and probably my insurance company). Still, since I've parted with my '19 Toyota 86, I guess I'll just have to learn to live with the 18" Pilot Sports :-) But steering-sensitive headlights might be really good, and I'll trust them; the LED headlights were on my 86 were great.

Its not just a you thing! My knees are bruised af after a day of holding my 6'2 220 lb self in slippery leather seat through twisties in my S550 Mustang, I could easily see that happening in other vehicles.

nice review big difference between fro suspension front is aluminum

I like the performance updates, not a fan of the styling changes (boring front, less sculpted rear, weird winglets on rear wheel arches). I’m keeping my FRS with its knee pads(aftermarket alcantara). It’s perfectly fun to drive even with less power. Or maybe I’ll go to a Z06 or Cayman GT4(RS) next!

Her Hair ROCKS ! Totally 80s/90s vibe !

Buying one of these.

I've always like the concept and design of these cars. I've been contemplating if this would be the eventual replacement for my MK 7 GTI ...?

@vapor4den

2 жыл бұрын

I will test drive the gti and the brz, don’t know witch one I’ll get yet… Gti have a better interior but the steering feel/input of the Brz is on another level from what I hear.