The New Republic Defense Fleets’s Hidden Advantage

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We've been very critical about the New Republic and the NR Defense Fleet in previous videos. Today we try to balance out our previous criticism by taking a look at some of the strengths of the NRDF and how its society and economy is better situated to support it during a war.
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  • @princeofpokemon2934
    @princeofpokemon29349 ай бұрын

    Considering that they field some of the most modern technology and built Star Destroyers meant specifically for countering other Imperial ships, it doesn't surprise me that the New Republic had a formidable defense fleet. I mean, the Nebula class Star Destroyers were made specifically to counter and even out gun Imperial-class Star Destroyers! Sure the new Republic is awful in terms of politics, but many people tend to overlook the New Republic defense Fleet in some regards. But I never overlooked it

  • @nicholashodges201

    @nicholashodges201

    9 ай бұрын

    You can have the best troops in the universe and ships every bit their equal. Doesn't mean squat if you have a civilian government that is too scared/cheap/whatever to use when it's needed, like with Navarro and it's pirates or the thing with Thrawne. Neither issue required more than a small task force consisting of at most a light cruiser. Both are *entirely* valid and even necessary uses of military resources. Disney's attempts to make the Republic of the pt has turned it into a joke of a Straw Man. The NR can't even handle it's basic duties. It would be one thing if it were a government made of revolutionaries. But the Rebellion was a revolution made by senators and the ousted/subjugated local governments during its entirety and even more so after 19BBY. Those people KNEW how BOTH governments worked from personal experience. They wouldn't have suddenly forgotten right after they won and it's not like they would've had a plan in place

  • @michaelramon2411

    @michaelramon2411

    9 ай бұрын

    I think it's pretty clear in the Sequels that the First Order was rather afraid of the Republic's full power. They fear Luke Skywalker's return because they think he can convince the Republic to take firm action against them, and they only attack once they can use Starkiller Base to decapitate the Republic leadership and destroy a large (and presumably the most elite) portion of their fleet. I think it's perfectly valid to think that the Republic would be able to match a conventional FO invasion, mobilize the thousands of civilian and local government ships that showed up at Exegol and activate a much larger industrial base and population to win a war of attrition. The First Order, even after 30 years, could barely match the half-paying-attention Republic's capabilities without an extremely OP superweapon.

  • @epiclye9138
    @epiclye91389 ай бұрын

    The New Republic navy that I wish was given the time to shine in the sequels

  • @GenerationTech

    @GenerationTech

    9 ай бұрын

    well considering thrawn's return we might get to see them in action

  • @neofulcrum5013

    @neofulcrum5013

    9 ай бұрын

    It bothers me so much to not have that. Not even a remnant. It’s like the people that fought in the GCW for this died for nothing.

  • @bones0013

    @bones0013

    9 ай бұрын

    @@GenerationTech i hope so

  • @mattstorm360

    @mattstorm360

    9 ай бұрын

    @@neofulcrum5013 And they kind of did. Their leaders pushed those that survived away as they decided it was time for peace. The emperor is dead, they taken the capital of the galaxy, just call the remnants of the empire warlords and start a goberment! Anyone that suggests their is a threat, well they are clearly war mongering idiots. LA LA LA- Hey, what's that red light in the sky?

  • @bradykenny5485

    @bradykenny5485

    9 ай бұрын

    @@neofulcrum5013yep. And that’s one of the primary reasons the sequels are rejected.

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum50139 ай бұрын

    They really missed their chance to flip the dynamic of the sequels: to have the new republic having to deal with the first order as a terrorist network trying to implant fear and terror tactics to get worlds to forcibly join their remnant.

  • @leafboye33

    @leafboye33

    9 ай бұрын

    They could still do that, it's only been a few years from the end of the war

  • @neofulcrum5013

    @neofulcrum5013

    9 ай бұрын

    @@leafboye33 guess time will tell. But we already know where this leads.

  • @ThobiasTutorials

    @ThobiasTutorials

    9 ай бұрын

    They've actually shown that already in Resistance; the First Order uses pirates to scare the Colossus into hiring the First Order as protection

  • @mjjfilms4597

    @mjjfilms4597

    9 ай бұрын

    They probably were doing this, but it wasn’t shown in the movies because they wanted to completely ignore the New Republic for some reason. Hopefully if the fanbase can one day accept revisiting the sequel era, we can find out what the New Republic was doing before and after the Force Awakens.

  • @Howto-mk9ly

    @Howto-mk9ly

    9 ай бұрын

    This is such a more entertaining way of looking at the sequels. Ima make my own lore just too make the sequels more interesting

  • @Tomreese130
    @Tomreese1309 ай бұрын

    With the E-Wing finally canon, I'm hoping Filoni will canonize the New Class program and the Nebula Star Destroyer.

  • @tumhalad1

    @tumhalad1

    9 ай бұрын

    I think that’s what the new cruisers are. I doubt this NR will be building triangle wedge ships

  • @MrDibara

    @MrDibara

    9 ай бұрын

    With the New Republic entering a demilitarization process (thanks Mon Mothma), I find that very unlikely, unfortunatelly. 🙁 It would have to happen at a time AFTER the events of -the GODAWFUL- Rise of Skywalker, when the Republic had just survived Palpatine's lunacy and might be feeling more interested in arming itself more, so as to not suffer another First Order situation. *Then* I can see the Nebula Star Destroyer being introduced and _God, I would _*_LOVE_*_ for them to be used against the Yuuzhan Vong!_ 😫

  • @mjjfilms4597

    @mjjfilms4597

    9 ай бұрын

    The Nebula Star Destroyers are in Ahsoka.

  • @Tomreese130

    @Tomreese130

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mjjfilms4597 How do you know? Leaks?

  • @mjjfilms4597

    @mjjfilms4597

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Tomreese130 They were literally in episode 4 during the New Republic fleet scenes.

  • @CastleIvory
    @CastleIvory9 ай бұрын

    Alan's ability to read the most outlandish dialogue with a straight face always gets me.

  • @KkevrockK

    @KkevrockK

    9 ай бұрын

    You know he’s the one writing the dialogue ya?

  • @BugRib

    @BugRib

    9 ай бұрын

    @CastleIvory - What do you mean?

  • @nolanrobbins3981
    @nolanrobbins39819 ай бұрын

    One thing I love about the channel is all the cool real life history that he throws in for real life examples. Love your vids

  • @BS-rm1hv

    @BS-rm1hv

    9 ай бұрын

    The problem is that he often make digressions about completely unrelated subjects. He also makes tiresome generalizations about "democracies" and "dictatorships".

  • @SchultzDorinda

    @SchultzDorinda

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BS-rm1hv Agreed. Plus he really doesn't know what he is talking about since he completely buys into the Western Propaganda.

  • @mjjfilms4597

    @mjjfilms4597

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BS-rm1hvFound the Imperial sympathizer

  • @sethb3090

    @sethb3090

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@BS-rm1hvalso he had some bizarre, cringy, and even wildly inaccurate statements about Japan and Israel thrown in there

  • @BS-rm1hv

    @BS-rm1hv

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sethb3090 The part about Israel was particularly bad.

  • @rafaelokubo8591
    @rafaelokubo85919 ай бұрын

    1:26 If you think about it the Clone Wars era republic was a really bad government, but the series presented us throught the most elite and competent of the Republic, that's why we love them

  • @douglasbaker4562
    @douglasbaker45629 ай бұрын

    The Sherman Tank was actually an almost modular chassis. There were variants of turret weapons such as; AAA, Machine Gun Arrays, Minefield Clearing, and more!

  • @RenegadeMaster137
    @RenegadeMaster1379 ай бұрын

    I love how when Alan is talking about Star Wars, often he really isn’t just talking about Star Wars

  • @calvinmatthews1527
    @calvinmatthews15279 ай бұрын

    If we had these kinds of vessels in the sequels, they'd be a lot more enjoyable. Instead, they only gave us X-wings vs TIE Fighters (again) with different colors! Except the Resurgence class SD, I loved those.

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah but never ever did a resurgence battlescruiser fight with another capital ship 😢 wasted potential or over hype . Or Stolen Ship design from thrawn or his Empire of hand because these idiots have only one good design and they don’t seem competent enough

  • @keagansavoie3777
    @keagansavoie37779 ай бұрын

    I hate to get sappy, but I’ve loved your videos for five years now since I was 10 and they really help me get through a lot of hard times in my life, so thank you for continuing to make such intriguing and entertaining content

  • @katedoesnature1658
    @katedoesnature16589 ай бұрын

    Can always count on Generation Tech to educate me on Galactic military hardware... Home and away. Cheers!! 🥂🍾

  • @Major98
    @Major989 ай бұрын

    I'm loving all these videos your pumping out. One of the best Star Wars channels on KZread

  • @KrypticElement
    @KrypticElement9 ай бұрын

    *For the Republic*

  • @yung_andre
    @yung_andre9 ай бұрын

    I'm Loving the longer videos I enjoy sitting down watching a 20 minute video and relax after I come home from work

  • @orokusaki1243
    @orokusaki12439 ай бұрын

    Would be interesting if a society's elected officials became "monk-like", gave up their worldly possessions to govern with enlightenment that is based in the constitution of the nation. Eliminate the corrupting factors, perhaps we'd get more pure leadership towards the betterment of all - if we can ever agree on what that would actually mean and look like..

  • @oscarjarvinen8101
    @oscarjarvinen81019 ай бұрын

    As a Finn it was quite a surprise to see our national defense forces in this video. I have been watching for 2 years and would have never suspected that

  • @sindre151
    @sindre1519 ай бұрын

    I just started in university and my bachelor course in security studies evolves around many of the things you highlight in this video. I love the way real life gets used within these videos. Your chanel and way of making videos and explaining star wars has definitely shaped my choice of study. Keep it up, Alan ❤

  • @chaiwarrior111
    @chaiwarrior1119 ай бұрын

    Loved the historical references. Well done, m8.

  • @alexincobra7379
    @alexincobra73799 ай бұрын

    The Venator vs ISD comparison is bad because during the Clone Wars Venators didn't do well against Providence cruisers with short range Droid fighters. They had to outnumber their foe to get a victory, or have a Jedi general to make the difference.

  • @AGrumpyPanda

    @AGrumpyPanda

    9 ай бұрын

    The real issue is that the Republic didn't have a dedicated ship brawler. Venators did fine against the smaller Providence cruisers, but the dreadnought-scale versions used as flagships by Trench and Grievous were much larger and required more numbers (which is understandable). Say the Republic had a dedicated gun platform, basically an ISD but smaller and more reasonably designed, that could operate in squadron with a Venator or two providing fighter support, they'd be much better able to punch above their weight against larger vessels.

  • @alexincobra7379

    @alexincobra7379

    9 ай бұрын

    @@AGrumpyPanda The problem I see with Star Wars ships is that they fail specialization for large ships. The ISD is just for brawler and pursuit ship, the MC80's are just overshielded carriers. They never show what the ships can do or fight in their roles. They always sit back as fighters do all the fighting or they have and arrogant commander that let's them get destroyed because he didn't think anything can happen to his ship. That role has been overplayed in Star Wars since Empire Strikes Back at the Battle of Hoth. They need to show specialization in capital ships. You can't have a a submarine to do the destroyer's role or vice-versa. If the MC80 is playing super carrier role, then where are the picket ships that escort it. They can't be carriers, too. All the fighters can't do unlimited assaults because after ammunition runs out, then what the capital ships going to do?

  • @roguerifter9724

    @roguerifter9724

    9 ай бұрын

    @@AGrumpyPanda The Republic had its own Brawler type Destroyers (The Victory classes) while the Empire had its own Carrier Destroyers (The Secutor class) And both were made canon by the first canon novel but as far as I know they have never appeared on screen.

  • @bjturon
    @bjturon9 ай бұрын

    I hope we get to see more of the new star-cruiser, see it in action under competent commanders.

  • @Engine33Truck
    @Engine33Truck8 ай бұрын

    If people want to see a good example of what a Venator class would do to an Imperial class: the Battle of Sibuyan Sea. A battle that took place during WWII, where a Japanese fleet centered around their most powerful battleships (without aircraft carriers or really any air cover) was attacked by like 1/3 or the carrier air power US Admiral Halsey had at his disposal.

  • @cliphound80
    @cliphound809 ай бұрын

    An amazing channel and it has been my go to for Star Wars topics for several years and I enjoy very much the down-to Earth,real-world perspectives and examples. I have been a big EC Henry fan for some time too. I try to get in single detail I can about Star Wars content as he does to understand the background details about the Star Ware universe and the everyday people that live in it.

  • @Lyle_K
    @Lyle_K9 ай бұрын

    So my question would be what is the purpose of having a fleet the size we see all in one spot? We’re they defending something?

  • @GenerationTech

    @GenerationTech

    9 ай бұрын

    It's actually not too large, probably just a sector fleet. This might be chandrila the capital of the new republic during this time not a 100% sure

  • @MercenaryPen

    @MercenaryPen

    9 ай бұрын

    My suspicion is more that they were in position as a reaction force, ready to move to any trouble spot that might arise

  • @andrewm3210

    @andrewm3210

    9 ай бұрын

    I think that this would be the equivalent of an aircraft carrier battle group centered around Home One. The New Republic presumably has many of these battle groups throughout their territory.

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    Home one is the flagship , so that fleet is its escort which is a “of course” thing and Hera is its mission commander , Maybe its a special quick response force or maybe assembled by Hera in response to the Sudden new dark Jedi attack and escape of Morgan and theft of a freaking super star destroyer Hyper drive , The Govt maybe stupid but Hera is still Quick on responding to a threat right

  • @somting125
    @somting1259 ай бұрын

    "Things are bad when politicians are designing military hardware" - this is still prevalent in the US. The "Rule of Cool" is a major part of design decisions, as shown in the contracts given in the competitions between the x-32 and x-35, as well as the yf-23 vs the f22 prototype

  • @mathieugariepy2948
    @mathieugariepy29488 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @Fedaygin
    @Fedaygin9 ай бұрын

    Aah good talks as ofteeeeeeen happens 🙂 I also like the background tracks & the right volume level that you almost always used 🙂

  • @zouro
    @zouro9 ай бұрын

    Yo gen. Allot of what say hits deep here and is very relative, and again always love your perspective and how it sheds light in the darkest time 👌 thanks for doing you bro

  • @OllamhDrab
    @OllamhDrab9 ай бұрын

    Yaknow, it looks like they have a pretty good *fleet* at this point (it seems less clear if they have much of anything by the time of the sequels) ...but I definitely think the showrunners need to actually show us some of the quality and clueful *people* you'd expect a system like that to produce. Cause we just haven't seen much of what really makes a Navy, namely the crews really being dedicated and brave and knowing their stuff and their leadership having a clue, ...if what we've seen so far is meant to be kind of the exception, presumably a not-too-rare exception, we should really see some of em be on the ball or at least make sense once in a while. :) I suppose I'd rather see a bit more nuance there. LIke it looks like it wouldn't have changed the outcome much if the cruiser Baylan met had a bit more going on upstairs, you know?

  • @raidenex
    @raidenex9 ай бұрын

    I disagree on the idea of a free market being necessary; in fact, the free market is what allowed Morgan Elsbeth to use the New Republic's own shipyards on Corellia to build the Eye of Sion. Going back further, the free market was manipulated by Sidious to enable the Clone Wars and eventually the Jedi Purge.

  • @JenniferKokoski

    @JenniferKokoski

    9 ай бұрын

    Sidious staged a war by having the Trade Generation forcibly invade Naboo to get them to pay their tarrifs. Then manipulated Dooku into backing a droid Separatist war on the Republic by conquering outer rim worlds that didn't join them. That's not free trade. That's corruption. Sidious is entire plan was to undermine the Republic and turn it into a dictatorship. Eslpeth is using greed and corruption to fund her personal war in order to achieve power. Free trade and a capitalistic system is not necessarily free of greed or corruption anymore than a closed controlled dictorial system. The difference here is that in a republic, power is shared among the people while in a corrupt dictatorial system power is held by only a few while the rest are made to serve the dictatorship.

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    They forgot to Demilitarise the enemy and rogue destructive elements inside and around the new republic and Listening to the Enemies rumours of Next Empress Directly went into demilitarisation mode with Neutralising the threats . The fact that they demilitarised recently organised Rag tag Rebellion fleet is stupid on many levels

  • @joshuahietala5174
    @joshuahietala51748 ай бұрын

    3:13 Finnish mentioned torilla tavataan

  • @mandoleg
    @mandoleg9 ай бұрын

    Love your videos

  • @charlietownsend4416
    @charlietownsend44169 ай бұрын

    Man, this is a great video to show to people who say that "Senator Armstrong was right"

  • 9 ай бұрын

    'Depth out of Field': an entirely new technique of cinematic video style, first implemented right here

  • @lelandgrubson2736
    @lelandgrubson27369 ай бұрын

    2:57 that part had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣 like com'on really?

  • @jamiewalsh3349

    @jamiewalsh3349

    9 ай бұрын

    It may happen in about 200 years time

  • @kalvinravn8431
    @kalvinravn84319 ай бұрын

    Exactly my good friend, get both sides of the story and make your own decisions….Words of wisdom for all things in life. Great video as always good sir.

  • @NightlingGaming
    @NightlingGaming9 ай бұрын

    "We may forget, and the little guys may kick us in the nuts" he posted this on 9/11 god damn 😂

  • @GRIGGINS1
    @GRIGGINS19 ай бұрын

    Ironically the concept of Drone Swarms and Lasers has made the DOD begin research into a new Class of Battleship. They want ships that can deploy more anti air and anti surface weapons than the Ticos and Burkes can in fleet defense. History sure does rhythm.

  • @soyivangarcia
    @soyivangarcia8 ай бұрын

    There's a problem with the focus of image in your planes. The video is a 10, as always 😊

  • @Andrewbaysura1
    @Andrewbaysura14 ай бұрын

    I really wish we could explore the New Republic more, we are still coming off of the Empire fighting the early Rebel Alliance, maybe even further back. I want to see all types of Spaceships, airforce inside a planet's atmosphere, ground forces and their walkers, if they modernized the ATTE, etc

  • @FallenRingbearer
    @FallenRingbearer9 ай бұрын

    Was this Star Wars or Earth Wars lol. Good video man.

  • @Celestial_Reach
    @Celestial_Reach9 ай бұрын

    ive always loved your content, because you dont hold back. you speak in anology, that makes sense, and it doesnt matter who looks dumb when you do so. ive yet to see you be so striaght forward, besides your beautiful sign off standing with our republic. and i agree what you did there calling someone abit of a cry baby.... it was earned. much love

  • @goasu151
    @goasu1519 ай бұрын

    Above and beyond. Great video. Best, US Military Veteran (Submarines)

  • @The7thFleet
    @The7thFleet9 ай бұрын

    Finland mentioned🇫🇮

  • @lifevest1
    @lifevest19 ай бұрын

    New Republic soliders look very cartoonish. I’m talking like halloween costume, cosplay levels. Uniforms don’t seem to fit, they look like children! I understand if it was early Rebellion and they had to use hand me downs.

  • @richardstone5552
    @richardstone55529 ай бұрын

    Cool

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman21859 ай бұрын

    10:22 I beg to differ here. It used to be the minority party would work with the majority party and each side would make concessions to the other in a good-faith effort to craft the best policy, one that takes into consideration the opposing point of view. The majority didn’t stream roll the minority and in turn the minority didn’t use procedural hurdles or antics to impede the process. Sure it wasn’t perfect and progress toward a more free and just society for all, under these terms, was made incrementally but at the same time as progress was made on one front, backsliding occurred on another. Now politicians in the US aren’t even liked by their constituents from their same party because many of their constituents are now so cynical about government meanwhile politicians are spending increasingly astronomical amounts of money to promote their elections and relying more on big money donors, so the politicians stop listening to their constituents and instead cater to their donors.

  • @kenle2

    @kenle2

    9 ай бұрын

    That's because we are also spending beyond "astronomical amounts of money" on EVERYTHING else besides elections. And someone has to pay for it. And that amount of money makes the people who distribute it in the government insulated and free to indulge their own beliefs and values without regard to anything a "minority" wants or even regards to their rights. The trappings of democracy mean little when a bureaucrat can just say "these are the rules and regulations. Just elect a different legislature if you want to change them, but until then, we'll write them and enforce them however we damn well please. Or you can go to court against our permanent administrative system. That will take you 10 years and cost millions. Have a nice day."

  • @IvanKinkle
    @IvanKinkle9 ай бұрын

    The Rebel Alliance was confident and smart, the Empire aswell was very smart and perhaps over confident in some ways, but when the war ended, it was back to bureaucracy.

  • @tailssonicteam1604
    @tailssonicteam16049 ай бұрын

    4:08 The JSDF from the anime Gate. Really good anime highly recommend it

  • @dmac4278
    @dmac42789 ай бұрын

    i know that you making a point about quantity and ease of production with the sherman tank but i think the russian t-34 is probably a better example of the quality vs quantity argument since it went up against panzers and tigers at the height of their deployments

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    Agree

  • @sierravortec2494
    @sierravortec24949 ай бұрын

    Best Star Wars channel on KZread hands down

  • @Versudan
    @Versudan9 ай бұрын

    Just a matter of time until Star Wars takes the next step real militaries did from aircraft carrier to cruise missile: Shoddy hyperdrive one use RKVs. Which stops being a fun setting real quick when a planet can be killed instantly from the other side of the galaxy before they even know they're in danger.

  • @rhov-anion
    @rhov-anion9 ай бұрын

    "You know things are bad when a politician begins designing military hardware." Reminds me about how Old Toothbrush-Mustache would draw designs for vehicles. I've seen his drawing of a Volkswagon. We may not think of a VW Bug as "military hardware" today, but it was absolutely used by the Wehrmacht.

  • @kenle2

    @kenle2

    9 ай бұрын

    Not the Bug. The Kübelwagen was the original German military "Jeep". After the war, the bulbous "Bug" body was built to fit over the Volkswagon commercial model.

  • @Andrewbaysura1
    @Andrewbaysura14 ай бұрын

    Since the Cal Kestis trilogy will probably push into the return of the Jedi era or maybe even after when the New Republic finally is starting to form... or takes place throughout both, I hope we see some cool New Republic military vehicles.

  • @ThrawnFett123
    @ThrawnFett1239 ай бұрын

    My only difference of opinion with this video is you're assuming the Republic Navy would magically gain the tactical and strategic know how to use their ships and carriers effectively against the Empire. They say that every military is built to win the last war it fought. The Empire military is very much an example of this, where super powerful battleships carry only enough cheap easily replaced fighters to screen themselves as they advance to brawling distance to wipe out the carrier/battleship hybrids and their support fleet. This was the exact Clone Wars era tactic both sides but especially the Republic for some reason employed that the Imperial tactics evolved to beat. In a "the Republic military and Imperial military are dropped into a timewarp from their Palpatines on down, and both start fighting" scenario, the Imperial military would likely come out on top. This is because the tactics and equipment of the Republic were severely compromised by both Palpatine feeding a stalemate and the Jedi themselves overconfidence in their individual abilities. Core doctrinal flaws like this are extremely hard to overcome, and would likely be fatally so for the Republic military. This isn't to say I disagree with the core of your analysis, just that I disagree with that specific example. Given the capabilities and equipment of the Republic military, it SHOULD be able to easily overcome the Empire. But the misuse of equipment and core flaws in its tactics would likely lead to crippling losses in the opening engagement against the already numerically and doctrinally evolved Empire.

  • @graveyardshift6691

    @graveyardshift6691

    9 ай бұрын

    Point in support of this. The Imperial War Machine is not hampered by the Jedi Ideology and Imperial Officers don't take backseat to Jedi who 'Are keepers of the peace. Not Soldiers.' Very few Jedi were as capable as Anakin and Obi-Wan. So unless you equip your average Task Force with one of the rare exceptional Jedi Generals, the Imperial War Machine will walk all over your Republic Task Force because Imperial Officers are free and encouraged to be Aggressive with proper war doctrine as opposed to average Jedi shenanigans.

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter97249 ай бұрын

    As much as I love small and midsized ships in general and Star Wars I'm not sure I would want to go one on one with an ISD in the New Republic Cruiser (Which I still think is probably a Frigate based on its size) From what we see in the movies and TV shows Imperial Starfighters don't usually do as poorly against Rebel starfighters as they do in the books and games so I'm not sure a two squadron deficient wouldn't hurt the New Republic ship's chances badly. Also if the cruiser doesn't have the firepower to hold its own against the ISD its best hope of winning a battle IMO is to knock out the ISD before its fighters need to rearm and refuel. New Republic starfighters have a much higher anti-ship capability then their Imperial counterparts on average but they run out of ammo for their heavy weapons fast, and the time it takes to load their launcher in a hanger bay could easily give an ISD the time to blow their carrier to ashes unless the carrier has the guns to hold off an ISD or defenses which can hold out against the ISD's weapons long enough to get the fighter back into the battle.

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    A heavily armed and armoured profundity MC75 or a Bothan assault cruiser and Corona class frigate with 48 instead of its 36 starfigters and a CR90 Design with heavy Point defensive Ion flak and Heavy Laser cannon weapons and a single squadron of starfighters would have been enough Gamechinging Actually I would have liked a 600-1000 Main line warship and a escort ship would have worked out How many of the new Vespar Cruisers can be built in the cost of ISD including logistics and star fighter acquisition costs . Definitely more than a ten , So yeah I think if swarm tactics worked with CIS droid star fighters it would be a Overwhelming Advantage In case of New republic Star fighters and maybe even stall until a Star Cruiser arrives Also If the ISD attacks a target planet or station it would definitely have some of its own star fighters and if in a empty space ,Just turn and run as your Starfighters keep the ISD busy and jump behind you after you do so But I’m Not impressed by this ship Is reality

  • @roguerifter9724

    @roguerifter9724

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sumukhvmrsat6347 This. I would take a mixed squadron of Nebulon-Bs, CC-9600s, and DP20s over an ISD any day,and I would probably prefer a couple of Vespars with a few escort ships over an ISD. if they ever give us actual stats on a Vaspar and it isn't revealed she lacks the on board weapons to at least bloody the nose of a warship that is. Given how absurdly under-armed for their size most of the Resistance capital ships were in the ST the onboard weapons or lack thereof of on a Vespar is a concern unless something offical shows otherwise. There's a reason Venators had enough weapons to hold their own against a warship in a straight fight. Because in a setting where FTL works the way it does in Star Wars there's always a reasonable risk that an enemy ship can jump in and force combat while most of the fighters are away or when they are reloading on board, and the carrier needs enough punch to hold such an attack off.

  • @lewycraft
    @lewycraft9 ай бұрын

    About military parades, as i felt it was a bit of a poke at recent Polish Armed Forces Day. While yes, a lot of times they are a waste of money, they at the same time can be used in much more possitive way. A possibility for regular people to see the soldiers that risk their lives for their safety, to appreciate their hard work. And while yes, competend and strong military don't need to show their strength, it is sometimes better to show it sometimes, if it means we don't have to see if it is capable.

  • @USAFraimius

    @USAFraimius

    9 ай бұрын

    It was probably more a poke a Trump's planned parade and Putin's antics.

  • @adrianowen476

    @adrianowen476

    9 ай бұрын

    While I doubt Alan is as clueless as the average American about the rest of the world, I also don't think he's as clued in to military parades as you think. Poland has Every right to be proud of there military. The point I think Alan was trying to make was that countries that have military displays and parades Every month are showing "little dick" energy.

  • @lewycraft

    @lewycraft

    9 ай бұрын

    @@adrianowen476 maybe, it's just that a lot of people in the west were very sceptic last month, when the parade took place

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield35999 ай бұрын

    Ford didn’t practically invent mass production, he did invent mass production. I am glad they kept Mon Mothma pretty close to the way she was originally written.

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies669 ай бұрын

    New republic in cannon verse, had a case of adhering to ignorance is bliss, when it came to the rising threat of the first order, despite all of the warnings and threat assessments they got from Leia and her allies. And why they got caught with their pants down as they cut the head off the new republic political and military leadership with the attack on Hosinan. So that the NRDF may have a decent modernised small sized military, but they were not enough to match the armed might of the first order, taking advantage of the surprise and chaos caused by their opening gambit to size control of the galaxy.

  • @prestomeungyobrock
    @prestomeungyobrock9 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @IvanKinkle
    @IvanKinkle9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 That “GATE” reference. Good anime.

  • @MrParac
    @MrParac9 ай бұрын

    is it only me or Alan's camera was not well focused? lol

  • @Kubinda12345
    @Kubinda123459 ай бұрын

    I would put another argument in the New Republic fleet's favor. The New Republic military command knew that the First Order could try something which is why they've put most of the fleet in the Hosnian System. And they predicted the First Order correctly since it truly tried to destroy the New Republic in one swift strike against its capital. The miscalculation was just that the First Order wouldn't use its fleet but a system destroying superweapon.

  • @crackey3852
    @crackey38529 ай бұрын

    I hope we get to see this in action somehow, and it also sucks that the story has to play into the sequel trilogy. I also don't buy that the new Republic would be as useless as it is since the rebellion was decently competent, but if the new Republic isn't completely moronic then the events of TFA wouldn't have happened

  • @user-yc9vv9xb8s
    @user-yc9vv9xb8s9 ай бұрын

    Quick question, generations tech on Star Wars the force awakens which planets were the ones that were attacked corusant Naboo or not

  • @cloudmaster182

    @cloudmaster182

    9 ай бұрын

    Completely different planets

  • @user-yc9vv9xb8s

    @user-yc9vv9xb8s

    9 ай бұрын

    @@cloudmaster182 so even now those planets are alive they should’ve acted as the new republic capital

  • @Major98

    @Major98

    9 ай бұрын

    I think your thinking of Hosnian Prime. Lucasfilm didn't want Abrams to blow up Coruscant so they created Hosnian Prime as the New Republic capitol

  • @user-yc9vv9xb8s

    @user-yc9vv9xb8s

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Major98 but wait in the new Star Wars movie? Will Rey Skywalker go to corasaunt or Naboo

  • @Major98

    @Major98

    9 ай бұрын

    @user-yc9vv9xb8s no idea. I'm thinking Rey's movie ties into a new Jedi order and obviously there will be at least one recognizable planet. There has to be.

  • @reggieallen1270
    @reggieallen12709 ай бұрын

    Great video but my man didn’t even talk about the fleet 😂

  • @alexincobra7379
    @alexincobra73799 ай бұрын

    The Japanese Defense Force Navy name was forced on it after losing to the USA in WWII. Their largest ship not larger than a helicopter destroyer, or amfibious assault ship. The New Republic fleet battle group size looks weak because they only have one HomeOne MC80 and six frigates around it. There are no sister ships of MC80 size around or the fleets are stretched so thin around the galaxy that the only use on MC80 as an anchor to a few frigates. Pirates and other factions are able to amass large fleets to assault planets at will.

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    One Home one with its 72 - 96 Star fighters and its Advanced fire control benefitting it to use even its turbo lasers equally effective against Starfighters like Normal point defence Lasers can and will Destroy any amassed Pirate fleet in traditional Fleet Combat Any day

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347

    @sumukhvmrsat6347

    9 ай бұрын

    And Jap Helicopter destroyers are capable of carrying and launching F35s and other VTOL capable aircraft , along with its traditional launch Jets , They are what a nebula class star destroyer to a Inperial star destroyer really only the name is helicopter destroyer really it is a average Aircraft air craft carrier but as in japans case very advanced

  • @alexincobra7379

    @alexincobra7379

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sumukhvmrsat6347 On ship can't be everywhere at once and one fighter can get through. Just because something has good stats, doesn't mean it can battle all by itself with no other large picket ships. That why a lot of Star Wars writing makes no sense. They rely on plot armor to do all the fighting for them. They need a good size battlegroup to handle major threats. Look how their soldiers dress, in NASA pajamas. That doesn't look ready to fight a battle. Don't get caught sounding like those typical arrogant Imperial officers, "nothing cat get through our defenses." Pirates are not the only factions in the Galaxy that can amass fleets. That's alright, I can't wait till the Yuzaan Vong creams their ass like in Legends then they ran to The Imperial Remnant for help.

  • @trainknut
    @trainknut9 ай бұрын

    I'm still waiting to see a Venator in New Republic/Rebel Alliance markings, there's no way they didn't have a couple. The Republic had way too many, and they fit the Alliance's MO way too well for every single one to have been unceremoniously scrapped. If they managed to acquire hundreds of B and X wings under the Empire's nose and even capture a fucking starship carrier, I'm sure a Venator, which were being scrapped on hundreds of planets, would have been at least a plausible acquisition for the Rebels. It'd be nice to see a modified "rebel" Venator, perhaps using a patchwork of ISD parts to replace aging and battle-damaged components, maybe parts of the superstructure previously enclosed within the hull have become exposed due to shortages of materials for repairs and/or parts cannibalism for other parts of the ship. That would be one _hell_ of a capital ship design in my opinion.

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea9 ай бұрын

    I always thought Palpatine was inspired by pizza when he commissioned the design of the Star Destroyers. Because they do look a bit like pizza slices.

  • @jfb173jb
    @jfb173jb9 ай бұрын

    The part about the ones at the top getting kicked down, you do acknowledge we're not the first to do or think that. Or to have that problem. The British before the USA didn't expect the colonies to fight back enough to strain their army. The Ottomans underestimated the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula and they helped topple their empire. Or even the matters with the Romans and Egyptians.

  • @tonynelligan1930
    @tonynelligan19309 ай бұрын

    the problem is the new rep. will within 100 years or so become the new sith empire basically so what's the point? can not recall if this is cannon or such so much reading out there to recall. but in one clip it talks about jedi, sith, and rep. alliance if that helps what timeline this is.

  • @GoranXII
    @GoranXII9 ай бұрын

    Star Destroyers are made for _space_ combat. Line-of-sight weapons make a lot more sense when horizons don't exist (except in and around planets, and even then a ship sitting in orbit has a horizon distance in the four-figures range at least). Honestly, if it wasn't for the hand-wave nature of the show, fighters wouldn't exist.

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd9 ай бұрын

    so in my mind the problem is that the core worlds are too cozy they didnt really see that much of a problem when the Empire was in charge and now they just see all this talk of dangers lurking on the outer rim as people trying to feel important again, in there mind its a case of why should i be concerned everything around here is fine, meanwhile the person standing right next to them smiling at them is someone that's an empire sympathizer that would love nothing more than to shove this cut of (i forget what they call coffee in star wars) down your throat till you choke on my fist but on the outside they just say ""oh dont worry ill cover the rest of the shift you go home and bee with your kids"" you think they are been nice but they just dont want you around one its easier to mess with the numbers when your not there and to they dont have to look at your face yes they can fudge the numbers while your there but if you do happen to wake up from your slumber and see what they are doing and well its just a pain to have to dispose of the body. then you have all the old members of the rebellion that aren't in the core worlds because they were inconvenient to have around so they were pushed into the background or given backwater post to keep them out of the way they are seeing all the warning signs and there warnings are falling on deaf ears but they are incomand of powerful ships that cant do anything because they don't have orders to despite repeated request to let them look into problems.

  • @momaw_C1-10P
    @momaw_C1-10P9 ай бұрын

    It's like if the Imperial Navy got a do-over and instead of Star Destroyers committed to Arquitens

  • @MinhVu-yz5rr
    @MinhVu-yz5rr9 ай бұрын

    Not strong enough to survive the First Order tho. Ohhhh burnn, literally

  • @bet0v966

    @bet0v966

    9 ай бұрын

    That was some decades later. By then, remnants were playing it smart by laying so low there was no threat that that the New Republic felt safe & became lazy

  • @GGBlaster

    @GGBlaster

    9 ай бұрын

    Well, it’s kinda hard to defend against a Death Star sniper-shotgun from across the Galaxy.

  • @MinhVu-yz5rr

    @MinhVu-yz5rr

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@GGBlasterfair enough, but what they could have done was to scatter the fleet. Doesn't even need to be a coordinated jump. Would have taken them less than 1-2 minutes and astromechs can do that in a sec or so.

  • @MinhVu-yz5rr

    @MinhVu-yz5rr

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bet0v966 I think it was 20-25 years and I was thinking more in line with an evacuation/scattering formation plan so that the Republic Fleet could survive. It's just seeing them without these kind of contingency plans makes the Republic Defense Fleet so incompetent

  • @bet0v966

    @bet0v966

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MinhVu-yz5rr There was no way for them to evacuate that New Republic capital planet or the ones next to it. The attack by that new super weapon happened so fast. By the time they noticed, their skies were already enveloped in the coming red glow. There was no contingency plan for another super weapon. For all the New Republic knew nothing that big was going on. By time we get to a lil before sequel trilogy, there are no Imperial remnants left in the open & no attacks, nor any fighting between planets they needed to placate. That’s why its fleet basically disappears. There was no enemy or potential threat. Once people like Leia were saying there was one in the Outer Rim, The First Order, coming it was too late b/c they TFO had planted supporters in the senate & imperial loyalists who prevented any rearmament to prepare

  • @biostemm
    @biostemm9 ай бұрын

    If the New Republic was competent, the plot, and their eventual defeat, couldn't happen... that's why!

  • @orokusaki1243

    @orokusaki1243

    9 ай бұрын

    What was the source of that "incompetence" though? If there's undiscovered imperial loyalists throughout, then it becomes comparable to the criminal Underworld that also pervades society, largely unchecked. "Agendas" get pushed by extremists. People become "hurt" or "victims" and demand justice. Such people may inspire others to be "victims" which then all becomes mainstream. These people then enter leadership positions, to further their original agenda that may run counter to popular/reasonable society. Like rotting from the inside out.

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z9 ай бұрын

    New Republic Fleet got that big hand-fin energy.

  • @seltin1988
    @seltin19889 ай бұрын

    i do wonder what kind of ship will take over after the carrier? maybe as aircraft gets better we dont need carriers to store them and the idea of a fleet wil be obselet?

  • @cyberstormalpha789

    @cyberstormalpha789

    9 ай бұрын

    That probably won't happen for a long while. We already have the capability to strike the other side of the world from the Central US, but once those planes run out of ordinance... The ability to rearm so close is key to the power projection.

  • @oler777
    @oler7779 ай бұрын

    10:28 bussy!

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages9 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion9 ай бұрын

    I have a question: Can the nomadic tactics such as pillaging the enemy's territory and feigned retreat will worked in space warfare? From how I see it during the Clones Wars, it seemed to work well for the Separatists and they only lost because of Palpatine did not want them to win.

  • @marcelgrabowski5939

    @marcelgrabowski5939

    9 ай бұрын

    What kind of space warfare? Star Wars? Yup, space is so big that you can always just hide somewhere and strike whenever you want on everything with exception of heavily fortified targets. Hard sci-fi? Why pillage, when you can shot planet-cracking kinetic projectile or Nicol Dyson Beam at target? About less advanced hard sci-fi, it could force enemy to split his forces, but he will exactly know where you are nearly all the time, because there is no realistic stealth in space for a spacecraft.

  • @dorinxtg
    @dorinxtg9 ай бұрын

    Auto focus issues?

  • @dillonroberts9945
    @dillonroberts99459 ай бұрын

    Both the Japanese and Finnish are scary as hell to fight going from their history. Just because people don't like fighting, doesn't mean they aren't afraid to be brutal when needed

  • @kenle2

    @kenle2

    9 ай бұрын

    In the Japanese case, they kind of went overboard. Then the U.S. went even more overboard. So ...

  • @dillonroberts9945

    @dillonroberts9945

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kenle2 oh the Japanese definitely went overboard don't get me wrong, but they were terrifying and usually peaceful when not in war time

  • @cd5sircoupe
    @cd5sircoupe9 ай бұрын

    As a PoliSci and History major, I can agree with that. The current timeline's fucked.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts26889 ай бұрын

    Planes were not the initial counter to battleships.. the mine... the torpedo and then the submarine launched torpedo were... battleships can still be very relevant due to their unique abilities...

  • @motherteresa8418
    @motherteresa84189 ай бұрын

    The galactic Republic was so long its enough time foy more species to emerge

  • @Imnotyourfriendbuddy1
    @Imnotyourfriendbuddy19 ай бұрын

    As a political science major what you said about us is true. In class today we were wondering when people would care enough to cane eachother on the house fool again.

  • @johnnyjet3.1412
    @johnnyjet3.14129 ай бұрын

    The answer is armed merchantmen - Baltimore Clippers!

  • @kurukblackflame
    @kurukblackflame9 ай бұрын

    I don't know if I agree with the idea that a Repuilic era (clone wars) fleet would wipe the floor with an Imperial fleet. Yes, in the real world aircraft carriers will beat battleships because the carriers can usually send out several waves of attack aircraft in the time it would take for the battleships to get close. Okay-Now what if the battleships can teleport? Or move so fast that they cannot be engaged by the air wings until they are already in gunnery range of the carriers? Light speed travel exists in the Star Wars universe-Which means big gun battleships are highly effective. I'd also argue that the tie fighter compliment of an ISD would be quite capable of fending off Clone attack craft, since Ties are dedicated anti-fighter ships wheras the heavier Republican 'fighters' compromise their dogfighting abilities by being designed to attack capital ships.

  • @motherteresa8418
    @motherteresa84189 ай бұрын

    Is majority rule form of democracy or the greatest threat to democracy

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge20859 ай бұрын

    ✌️✌️

  • @strambino1
    @strambino19 ай бұрын

    The new republic built the type of ship that the empire should have built. The cruiser that they have is a much more efficient use of resources. Especially because of the hyper drive capable fighter squadrons on board new republic cruisers. Long range scouting can actually be done by X-Wing fighters and Y-wings rather than using the whole ship to patrol a given area.

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor90029 ай бұрын

    "Israel is a flawed but functional Democracy" By 3 months this video has a 20% chance of having been aged like milk

  • @samuelstone3680
    @samuelstone36809 ай бұрын

    15:27, somewhat disagree with the motion that defense spending can't create economic growth in free economic systems. Such as how individual states can benefit from factories placed in their territory, e.g. US state representatives that hold and produce nuclear warheads heavily advocate for increased ICBM production mainly in their territory to increase local employment, local spending and thus Aggregate Expenditure, increasing GDP. Good video and concept though.

  • @bioniccrouton
    @bioniccrouton9 ай бұрын

    Alan, love your videos but the focus needs help. Still watched though.

  • @Otterdisappointment
    @Otterdisappointment9 ай бұрын

    Shortening what I said on the last one, the smaller transport and carrier focused navy are hyper-efficient. No one builds super-heavies anymore. It’s cheaper this way.

  • @schitflowsdwnhil
    @schitflowsdwnhil9 ай бұрын

    Since you say that sometimes your channel goes too far to one side and likes to go to the other side afterward, are you going to talk about all of the corruption in Ukraine and how the US via NATO, considering their behavior toward Russia over the last few decades, shares a significant amount of blame for the conflict going on between Russia and Ukraine now and draw the comparisons between this real world situation and what's going on with the new Republic, the remaining imperials, and the subsequent First Order? Long sentence 😅 Good video still and love your channel for years now!

  • @East10Outpost
    @East10Outpost9 ай бұрын

    When are you just going to make a geopolitical channel? I feel like a majority of your audience would subscribe to that.

  • @Em.P14
    @Em.P149 ай бұрын

    If one more youtuber pulls off the "speak softly and keep a big stick behind your back" quote, then its getting sus. I've seen this a few times by now, it is like as if there was a specific word/quote was chosen that every creator has to use in his video, almost like secret messages for spies or sleeper agents. If im a later, they ain't workin, try an other one.

  • @becominglessofmyself7032
    @becominglessofmyself70329 ай бұрын

    Doesn't seem to matter since the entire fleet got destroyed in the sequels

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