I am not normally critical of these reviews but I can’t help but wonder why you did not test this grinder for consistency/size/quality of grind. After all….it’s a grinder.

Just received my grinder today and has an exorbitant amount of retention. There was retention in the hopper, retention in the grinder and retention in the exit shoot. I was really hoping to stop having to water my beans after coming from a fellow ode gen 1. The grinder itself is high quality and grinds great. Huge retention problem, much worse than the fellow ode gen 1.

Good to see this review. The switch is absolutely absurd. I am often multitasking in the AM like filling up water, wetting paper cone, etc while grinding. Moccamaster - if you want me to buy this dealbreaker here!! Make my morning easier, not harder. Love the look and I’m sure it will be sturdy. I am curious how even it grinds, how loud it is, etc??? How does it compare in taste, fines and TDS when compared to an Encore or Fellow? That is the video I want to see!!

Appreciate the review. I've been going back and forth between a new grinder and the Fellow Ode was at the top of my list. This is helpful.

Well, it looks very Moccamaster like. Price is a bit steep, it looks like the eureka line in terms of burr size and burr adjustment.

@illiniwood

Жыл бұрын

If I were to guess, I'd say this is the Eureka Mignon Perfetto. It's the only Eureka filter grinder that has an adjustment knob that hits all of the grind sizes in one revolution. (Edit): I was wrong. The Perfetto has a 55mm burr. The KM5 has a 50mm burr. However, it does have a 310 watt motor that is hard to come by in the U.S. market. Must be why it is so heavy and has quite the kick. I can't wait to get mine.

Not sure I want to hold the switch while grinding, otherwise looks like an excellent grinder.

Serious ? You make a review of the grinder, but don't show how it grinds ? I would like to know how loud he is 🤷🏻‍♂️

@sanchez911

11 ай бұрын

Most important feature is the sound… still looking for a grinder with great sound. Any recommendations out there?

I have the moccamaster coffee brewer. Do you recommend their grinder or the ODE gen 2 grinder?

Would you recommend this or the Mahlkonig x54? I have a moccamaster brewer. Really on the fence with a few grinders. Thanks for any info!

This feels like a lot like the Eureka filtro. From the burrs, rpm, motor and the fact you have to hold the button down.

Somewhere else i saw that the finest grind on this could actually be ok for espresso? I have an express impress which has its own grinder but in case it breaks I want a good drip grinder that can also function as a backup for espresso. Thinking about the Baratza Encore ESP but know that is conical. Can someone say if they think flat burrs are indeed better for drip? Many say flat is good for clarity and conical for body?

Solid early product review. Good usable info and some good perspective. One suggestion, and I hate to be that guy, but you might be surprised how many times you used the word “actual” and I can’t think of a time that it was necessary. That said, keep up the good work!

Appreciate the review! Would love to see a comparative taste test at different grind settings. It looks like it's built like a tank plus it's got a 5 year warranty. How well does it single dose (though I don't think MM intended it to be used that way)? It obviously would look great next to your Moccamaster coffee maker.

@jdgordon194

Жыл бұрын

Technivorm Moccamaster Director of Sales Will Etherington said, “The KM5 has very low grind retention and is, therefore, a good grinder for single-dose grinding.”

I have a Rancilio Rocky grinder and it has a switch like this. The weight of the Rocky makes it secure and not move. Even has the “1 bean holder” feature haha. Not worth me changing, as the Rocky can handle espresso too.

So if I get this right, you need to remove 4 screws to clean this thing inside? How often will you need to do this?

I see you gave Ode 2 a favorable review as well. Would recommend the KM5 over the Ode 2 for use with a Moccamaster?

There is an unanswered question: What micron range does it cover? Since it is intended for filter brewing I bet it wont grind as fine as 200 microns.

Do you think they will release this in the Stone Grey soon?

Cool review! I am looking for a grinder which does both Brewed (Filter) Coffee and for Espresso ? as next to my Moccamaster I'd like to buy an Espresso machine. Which Grinder would you suggest which does both ? you mention it's not for Espresso 00:58

@marjoriecohn3868

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your budget. Maybe Baratza Encore ESP? Designed to have that flexibility for $199. The real connoisseur types have multiple grinders for different purposes. I am also looking for one that does everything.

No espresso grind? Why even make a grinder then? My KitchenAid coffee burr grinder dial from flour like espresso grind to filtered coffee all for $200. Absolutely awesome machine. Highly recommend over this grinder. Seriously.

@marjoriecohn3868

Жыл бұрын

What I can think of is this has flat burrs which some think are better for drip than conical.

Yeah, my Baratza Encore died and I'd love to go back to freshly ground AND yeah, it'd look cool next to the Moccamaster that has been great. The comments here DO bring out valid points: Switch would bug me, retention etc. I guess I'll consider the new Ode. While not architecturally matching, it may be a better way to drop $300+ Heck the Baratza didn't care that it was next to the Moccamaster :-)

Per another commenter, this is looks like a Eureka Filtro with some aesthetics to match their brewer. Not a bad move actually.

@2Amigos805

Жыл бұрын

Not the same wattage

@kuppenbender1

11 ай бұрын

@@2Amigos805Yes it is. 310w, same as the Filtro.

@2Amigos805

11 ай бұрын

@@kuppenbender1 negative. 210 vs 310

Did they make custom burrs or are these an existing set they chose for the grinder?

@braxtonjens7839

Жыл бұрын

Just speculation, but it looks like the Eureka Filtro, 50mm Pro filter burrs. Eureka came out with them last year.

@Coffeehaus

Жыл бұрын

Cannot confirm but they do look like the Eureka Pro Burrs.

How is the sound compared to the Ode 2?

@Coffeehaus

Жыл бұрын

quieter

If this was priced equivalent to the Baratza Encore, it would have been an instant buy for so many. Regardless a solid product and a great review as always!

@illiniwood

Жыл бұрын

This Moccamaster grinder has an all metal direct drive motor with a metal chassis from top to bottom and no plastic to be found. There's just no comparison to quality between the two. Plus, this grinder doesn't sound like a dying goat while it's grinding a dose of beans.

@cali_love5977

Жыл бұрын

That Baratza is junk. I bought it and the stupid top wouldn’t clip or turn without falling off. I tried to figure out what it was the rubber piece would come off. I think $300 is high, but I much rather spend that much for a high quality item than a Chinese made disposable item.

Hello and many greetings from Germany, nice video that made me buy the mill. Since I live in Germany, there was no point in buying from you - which I would have liked to do otherwise. 😄

Seniors can’t hold that for 30 seconds.😮

Wish it had a timer...

@Coffeehaus

Жыл бұрын

We are in the works of installing a SPSM (non-momentary) switch to ours. If it's feasible, we will offer it as a service for owners.

Nice looking grinder! I wish the price point was a bit lower. That grinding receptacle looks like it could cause some static issues.

@illiniwood

Жыл бұрын

If this grinder is modeled after the Eureka Mignon Brew Pro, this price point is an absolute bargain.

I respect the fact that it doesn't grind espresso. After all, it's for the Moccamaster. But needing to hold the button down while you grind the coffee? If you could just pick a # of cups and have the KM grind it, I would get this for sure. One of my pet peeves about my current grinder is that it grinds 6oz cups and the Moccamaster brews 4oz cups so I have to do a little mental math when I grind. I was really hoping this grinder would solve this for me, but instead I would need to measure the beans each time (how? on a kitchen scale? I just want my coffee) and then hold down the button. Yeesh.

@jufaeristhakha

10 ай бұрын

a little late to the party, but my thoughts are that you could measure your beans once on a scale using the collection cup from the km5, see what line it ends up at and then you would have a visual method going forward from there, no more need to weigh.

Sounds funny, but I would have liked you to actually grind something. One factor in my decision is decibels and ... pitch.

Don't see the point of holding the button down. Most comparable grinders have freedom of choice, where it grinds itself after starting. Weakly rated by Technivorm. This grinder is not considered for purchase.

Ya who the hell thought it was a good idea to 1. Make you hold down the switch 2. have no way of knowing how much coffee you are grinding. Im a huge moccamaster fan but this grinder is ridiculous