This is probably the most exciting time in gaming handheld history and its exactly what I needed right now

@SynikPixels

11 ай бұрын

All thanks to the steam deck

@kevinbuchanan67

11 ай бұрын

Not. Gpd were doing this way before steam deck

@sunnyspctech

11 ай бұрын

It's really all thanks to AMD, but definitely big thanks to Valve as well

@-be

11 ай бұрын

@@SynikPixels 🤣

@phertiker

11 ай бұрын

@@SynikPixels Tribalism is dumb.

It is okay to connect the G1 simultaneously to a USB4 port and Oculink Port, the GI will automatically use the 63G OCULINK connection exclusively for the eGPU and the 40G USB4 port for USB-PD and the Hub I/O. That is one area I applaud the GPD team, until we get USB4 V2 or Thunderbolt Next, being able to use both an Oculink port and USB4 port simultaneously is golden.

Finally, a true dock that you can carry with you for some extra horsepower

Another cool thing about plugging in both USB and Oculink is that the Oculink port is going to be left 100% to the GPU and the USB will handle the IO. Don't know about the video coming back to the internal screen tho.

@Ganon1337

11 ай бұрын

Does this also work with the usb-C-3.2 Slot, as seen in the video?

@proletariate1980

10 ай бұрын

​@@Ganon1337I am not an expert, but that seems highly unlikely.

It would be interesting to see a dock style eGPU expansion for those handhelds.

@ohyash

10 ай бұрын

GP Win4 has it. And I think all new GPD devices will come with it

@atretador2452

10 ай бұрын

@@ohyash I only saw a regular dock on their website, not one that includes a GPU inside.

@ohyash

10 ай бұрын

@@atretador2452 Oh, totally misunderstood your question. Yeah its not. I was saying all the GPD devices seemingly will come with Oculink port.

@atretador2452

10 ай бұрын

@@ohyash You gave me hope xD

This is awesome. Would love to see more testing done with the mini pc especially with the m2 oculink adapter!

So glad I got in on the indiegogo 😩 and thank god creators got their hands on it to just confirm my excitement, and thanks for the setup walkthrough! Definitely answered some questions!

@rramnel

10 ай бұрын

Did you receive your unit already? And any issues with it so far?

After I saw the Asus Flow line with the external 3080 I started wondering why this is not thing. Glad someone it’s finally tackling this niche,perfect for all of us ultrabook enthusiasts

Graet idea and would love to see it developed in mind for mini pcs. Some of them have really good cpus just let down a tiny bit by the their iGPUs.

@MrBeetsGaming

11 ай бұрын

I also like the idea but at the same time kind of don't see why anyone would do it.... It makes sense to me for handhelds since you can just unplug that and take it with you but why would you need a desktop to be in 2 parts? You might as well just buy a small full PC or a laptop at that point it seems like.

Your videos have convinced me that my next gaming setup will almost certainly be a gaming handheld, and a powerful GPU at home that will connect over occulink. This tech is mind-blowingly cool and versatile.

@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144

11 ай бұрын

I currently have a minipc + egpu rig and it's amazing, it runs everything at 2k@60fps. But it's kind of problematic. I wish thet tech avances more at least to have a nice cheap and really small mini itx built or a zero problem minipc rig

@aibi5532

7 ай бұрын

​​@@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144can u share the model and specs plz and price too

This Dock is what I was wishing for a long time. It will pair nicely with Thin & Light laptops too.

could've used something like this back when macs had egpu support! this definitely makes any handheld with usb4 a lot more interesting, and even makes some of the non-ryzen mini pcs viable

@MrHamncheez

11 ай бұрын

It opens the door for a thin and light ultra book too; haul this around when you need extra horsepower. its the size of a power brick from gaming laptops just a few years ago.

This vs Asus' proprietary dock would be interesting. As well as steam deck performance.

Finally a device with 7600M XT . Been waiting for this GPUs to hit the laptops

I think this is an amazing product and I think it would really be a game changer around a lot of the low-end gaming rigs. For example the single board computer. I would love to see how that is able to bring up numbers on gaming. Some of the super small like the GMK if it has the right IO to be able to use a product like this. If nothing from your channel, I've learned that there are also all sorts of different places where games bottleneck and I think it would be interesting to see a lot of the bottlenecks in those lower end gaming machines with the device like this. You can't perform miracles but you can really come close. Love the channel

That M.2 Oculink is pretty interesting!

The one thing that annoys me with handheld + egpu setups like this is having to change the graphics settings all the time. I wish there was a tool that can scan your game library and store graphics settings for handheld and egpu mode for each game, and then switch seamlessly. If there is a tool like that, someone please let me know

@DjVendetta

7 ай бұрын

dual boot.

@LuminousSpace

3 ай бұрын

lol this basically asking for double the disk space and reboot which is wasting more time and space that changing settings@@DjVendetta

@DjVendetta

3 ай бұрын

@@LuminousSpace you know there are two m.2 slots right? Not every game is that simple to setup. I ran two when i had mine. Sold it as i built a much better matx desktop running nobara os.

I really hope the steam deck 2 is eGPU compatible in some way, an occulink connection would be amazing to have on it.

Thx for the license code website - VERY HELPFUL!!

9:05 I needed that gorgeous piece for my Asus VivoBook to unleash its power.

I like this new way to connect the gpu over oculink please make more videos about it and the available adapters from m.2 to oculink

Iv been thinking about getting a GDP and use it as a small office slash gaming handheld. This probably just closed that deal. But would love too see how it works on the ROG Ally as I'll probably still keep that and use it just for gaming.

Very interesting form factor. Quite convenient, with its drawbacks. Perhaps a Ethernet port would have been a good idea. I wonder how well it will perform in the linux environment

Looks like a cool way to upgrade video performance for almost any modern portable PC 👍

absolutely exciting product, it's rare to see actual innovation on a top quality product!!

Volume wise it looks similar to the sonnet RX 5700 they used on our Mac instructor consoles so we could get video out to the projector and second monitor(didnt properly clone if capturing from the Mac's built in port) This is much shorter, but also much wider/longer, which is what i want for personal use.

I think this tiny eGPU beebox should be the best partner of almost all mini pc that currently available! Beside, perhaps AMD already been abandoned the concept for couple of years. But, I would like to know that, whether the iGPU of the Ryzen 7000 series being enabled to hybrid crossfire with this dGPU model? 🤔

@uncleelias

8 ай бұрын

ETA Prime has a review of the GPD G1 which is a Radeon RX 7600M XT eGPU running across either Oculink or USB 4.

love the gunmetal look, gpd domination!

any chance you could show the benchmark at 1440P, because I think the PCI X4.0 might not affect that much if it's 1440P?

Many thanks, please do the test with minisforum over M.2 adapter.

Would love to see performance at 4k. I know it's a laptop gpu, but it'd be nice to see just how much occulink can put out.

@M419.99

11 ай бұрын

I think GTA V 4K wouldn't be a problem. You might have to drop down to medium mixed for newer AAA titles

That is really awesome..thanks...

I like these compact external GPU solutions.

Minisforum if you are watching add a oculink port to your PCs 🤞

Good quick review

I usually build my gamings PCs, but I gotta say, with this going on, I very well might go with solutions like this in the future. If I could someday get a laptop and a desktop, and just share one GPU between them by swapping it out? That would be pretty sick. And if it makes its way to some good handhelds? Yes please.

@LuminousSpace

3 ай бұрын

once u get this u will never use desktop, ur handheld is ur desktop...... that is what i ended up, desktop is collecting dust

Just pre-ordered one of these. Going to pair it with the Minisforun EM680. All just too cute! Lol!

@NoBodysGamer

11 ай бұрын

Where did you pre-order if tehre is no kickstarter yet?

Does this also work with the ROG Ally? And do I need and external monitor or does van it work with the handheld itself, replacing the integrated GPU? If so, then this is awesome. Please let me know

Hi! Understandable if you don’t come back to these previous videos but would something like this pair nicely with an Ayaneo AM02? I’m debating picking that mini PC up for media streaming and light gaming but I would love the option to be able to boost performance should I want to run something a bit meatier. Thanks in advance if you see this! :)

Thanks - great video. Super excited for this. Could you test with Aya Neo Geek/Aya Neo 2 plse?

Would love to see how this pairs with a Framework Laptop

All looks good as someone who play lot less i would get this as desktop replacement no need for huge enclosure with PSU (my PC is already SFF) connected to laptop when in home but i wish they could make that all connectors are in the back coz device itself looks good enough to set it up on desk but with these cables sticking in front its meh but that is my only con from what i see great stuff overall 👌

Why no 1440p testing?

Now we need more variants like 4060 or even regular rx7600

@NCXitlali

11 ай бұрын

I agree!

Why is the Oculink better than 4.0 usb and does every pc brand has this oculink option or only this Winmax 2? Is there a date when we can actually buy this small GPU? How did you connect the GPD G1 with the monitor?(it looks like as it does not have a hdmi 2.1 slot)

amazing stuff honestly

I would like to see how well this device works on laptops that doesn't have thunderbolt or usb 4. That m.2 adapter might be able to work but i want to see it in action

@naromi18

11 ай бұрын

I would too

I have a 300A desk mini pc with a 2400G for a gaming PC in the living room. A decent video might be trying some older generation mini PCs to see the difference it might provide.

Fantastic device. My first time hearing about oculink. Is it a common port on new PCs?

I am also excited for the Adlink A500. You can literally fit that thing in your pocket and it has RTX 3050 mobile performance but it is not out yet. These need to go mainstream asap.

Thanks for the efforts. Does this device support 4k 144Hrz output over hdmi?

I'd like to see this with the Ace Magician AM08....if you're going to do a review of this new Ace Magician PC with the Silent, Auto, Performance dial.

at 4:15 im a bit confused, GPD themselves had mentioned that the device will automatically prioritize the oculink connection by default, and if you use the USB4 on top of oculink it will only pickup as a dock for peripherals...is that not the case anymore?!

Thank you so much for making this video. If anything, the comparison has solidified my purchasing decision for my next eGPU-enabled device. I'm gonna modify my Aorus Gaming Box 2070 into an oculink version and buy an Oculink-enabled laptop/handheld next. Really hoping Framework comes up with an Oculink module, cause that laptop's looking mighty attractive to me.

@OrPhEeUs

11 ай бұрын

Isn't most of Frameworks modularity based around USB c? I highly doubt they will have a oculink port, which is pure PCIe.

@maverickvgc4220

11 ай бұрын

An oculink module on a framework is going to be useless if not impossible. I don't know if the newer versions with USB 4 support Thunderbolt but even if they do you'd still have to go from pcie to USB 4 and then back to pcie removing any advantage oculink would have brought and losing Thunderbolt's own advantages. If they don't rework the chassis adding an oculink port at the back the only ways I see are an oculink module for the Framework 16 (using its pcie module slot) or cutting a hole in the bottom of the laptop and plug in a 90° m.2 to Oculink adapter.

@hameerz

11 ай бұрын

@@maverickvgc4220 i think all your assumptions are spot on. Hoping to see if Framework might adopt/embrace a PCIe interface for one of its module *fingers crossed*

Super cool small device but $655 if you back it now or $795 retail is insane and I can't imagine there exists a robust market. You can put together an entire desktop for that price, or put that towards a gaming laptop with dedicated graphics if you travel... I just don't get it.

It would be amazing if the power button on the dock powered on the connected device as well, like many laptop maker docks do. But perhaps that's not supported by USB4/TB/OCuLink, and is instead a proprietary solution?

I so wish the Steam Deck had support for egpus, I think egpu support on the chipset/dock is a must-have for the steam deck 2. I would replace my PC with a steam deck 2 + egpu combo.

Please test some e-sports titles with low settings so as to see how it handles high refresh gaming. It could be a great little setup when attending a LAN. Cheers!

I'm so so excited that external GPUs are finally happening, like a in a real, usable way. I remember getting a laptop years ago because I dreamed of playing games on the go, and then of course when it ended up not cutting it, I looked into an egpu. Which was real rough at the time, if you even had one of a limited number of laptops that could even do it. Back then, you were looking at doing it yourself in a big way - part sourcing, wiring, sometimes even making your own registry hacks to get things to work. There weren't really any consumer options, and basically no universal solution. Now, we're finally at a point where we can just sit down with your laptop, plug in a USB cable, and boom, you've got external GPU power. That isn't hindered by the cable, doesn't have a million weird caveats and quirks in how it works. Just awesome.

My dream is to have something like this working on a Linux-running MacBook Pro playing Windows games under Proton/Wine.

Thanks for this video! Exciting product. Could you test with a Surface Pro?

Excellent content, I wish they had something like this more available so having a light laptop was much more reasonable thing so can game at home but just use it for work. Your content is always incredible "but" you pleeeease have to run your scripts through a search/replace for the word "but"cuz the amount of times you say "but" gave me semantic satiation

I'd love to see how this egpu performs with the new Lenovo Legion Go! Im considering a buy with both, however I'd love the option of better performance when I want/need it.

On the official GPD KZread channel, they have the GPD G1 priced at $655 for the Crowd finding crew and $795 for the retail price

@brianclarke8503

11 ай бұрын

wow, that price is too high for my blood unfortunately.... i think between $500 and $600 should have been the limit

@DoubleDragon5180

11 ай бұрын

@@brianclarke8503 I agree especially with the RX 6850m XT XG Mobile from ASUS is $799 on their website and it performs better than the RX 7600m XT

This is a really interesting product, and I can't wait to see where this goes. Do you know off hand what sort of connection standard laptop GPUs use in gaming laptops? I'm curious because my knee-jerk reaction to hearing "PCIE x4" is "that's gonna bottleneck." But I also don't know if that's a standard speed connection in mobile hardware or not.

@alanpaone

11 ай бұрын

most modern ones are PCIe4x8, but it needs to be a very fast gpu for it to be as much of a bottleneck as you'd think

Creo que las nuevas consolas-PC debería tener un puerto Oculink para sacarles más provecho con una eGPU.

Hi! What laptop do you use in video? Thx!

It's interesting that this eGPU doesn't seem to have any performance loss vs having the GPU natively in laptop board

Hey ETA, it looks like the minis forum PC was running a much older driver. Do you think that could be accounting for some of the lost performance as well?

Connect it to the Phantom Canyon Please!!! Thanks for awesome review. 🤘

I'd love to see a comparison to the GPD G1

I don't know if it's me, but that connector looks strangely similar to the one that you put in your Asus products (for example the Asus ROG Ally). Do you know if they are maybe compatible with this OCuLink connector?

Curious if the usb4 / occulink comparison you did, would be different with same drivers on both. Appears usb4 pc was using old gpu drivers?

Awesome! Let's see them produce versions with beefier GPUs.

Can you test it with a thin and light laptop? Such as the acer swift 3/x with 2 m.2 ports

Slight nitpicking from me, but I wish the OCuLink on G1 runs at x8 instead of x4, that way we can tunnel back the graphics from G1 to the internal display without sacrificing that much performance compared to Thunderbolt / USB4 back-tunneling.

For PCs with no NVMe slot (particularly the small form factor ones) or no USB 4.0 port, hopefully someone can sell a PCIe to the Oculink expansion slot to tap that eGPU power.

Might be a dumb question but can this be daisy chained to another TB 4 Dock? Can you maybe test this? Like this: Gpd Dock --> TB4 Dock --> Thunderbolt Notebook?

Finallyyyyy The review I’vee Been waiting Moreee pls oculink on other brand and Lappys

what will be the performance improvement if I want to use windows handheld's display instead of external monitor?

What USB4 controller IC does it use? You mentioned Linux, lspci would show. Or hwinfo64 should. Please, please this would be invaluable info.

I've got 2 quetions: 1. is there any other competitors of this class or size / smaller? any with slightly more powerful GPU's within? 2. Can this be used in tandem with a Galaxy S23 series to a TV or external monitor to boost game performance even within Dex Mode?

I wonder when Minisforum will make an update for their minPC that uses laptop GPUs, but with this 7600m xt

@ETA PRIME : What causes the BUS interface to be downgraded? In the "UM790 Pro First Look, The The Power Of Ryzen 9 7940HS In A Tiny Foot Print!" at 4:58, the BUS interface is not downgraded and shows "PCIe x16 4.0 @ x16 4.0". Is there a way to retrieve these settings and restart the tests?

Could you please test some raytracing with that thing? At 1080p at medium RT settings, something like that.

Love this eGPU, but how much longer before we see mini PCs and handhelds using this chip?

Does this work with the ROG Ally? The oculink cable connector looks the same connection as the xg mobile cable. Love the channel! Thanks

@maverickvgc4220

11 ай бұрын

No, Asus swapped some pins exactly to male it incompatible.

This would work great for how my kids use all my GPD, OneXplayer and SteamDeck devices with our family room TV. I'm an old school PC/Xbox gamer (we dont have an xbox currently) and I really like how there are various ways to introduce PC gaming to my young kids without letting them get their paws on my 3090 Desktop 😅

Can you pair a CHUWI Larkbox Pro Mini PC with this E-GPU? How does it perform? Which Mini PC performs best with this eGPU?

Did anyone else catch the marketing for this thing with FSR 3 support and the supposed 2x improvement over fsr 2.0? That's the first I've heard of that performance comparison!

Thank you kindly for this video, could you make a similar video with a Beelink GTR7 Pro and a GPD G1 eGPU. I have this combination, but I can't get it to work with Win11 Pro. Thank you in advance.

Great video

apparently you can adjust the 2230 slot in the WM2 to support Oculink

@maverickvgc4220

11 ай бұрын

You can do that in every 2230 slot on every device, you're chanching the connector but they still are 4 pcie lanes.

Hvala!

I have a TH3P4G3 and an UM690 miniPC.

I wonder if I ever will be able to get their products :D

now i need an oculink enclosure

Am I the only person that noticed that at 8:33 the GPD WinMax2 and the mini pc have completely different driver versions?

Can you do a video explaining how you set up the gpd g1 to run on legion go just got a g1 and I'm having trouble getting it to work well

I'd love GPD to make a full size(16") slim/lightweight laptop with oculink port. That's exactly what I'm currently looking for (ROG Flow is too expensive IMO)

@drishalballaney6590

9 ай бұрын

tbh I would love if they do a slightly thicker 13in laptop with good cooling and HS cpu, that would also be amazing