'The New Atheism' by Richard Dawkins, AAI 2007
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*** This is NOT the new talk from AAI 2009, this is from 2007. I just wanted to get it up on our youtube channel. - Josh
Richard Dawkins talks about "The New Atheism" at the AAI 2007 Conference in Washington, D.C.
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My best to the videographer who recorded this and kept up as Richard spoke and then referred to slides. Smooth and professional. Thank you.
I really liked Richard's answer about the human need for ritual: A ritual can be good, it's nothing to get upset about, it can be rather moving and beautiful to celebrate our culture in symbolic terms. As long as we remember that rituals are just that, symbolic for something else
Dawkins is so delightful! And this gives me hope for a future of reason.
Great lecture. I could listen to Dawkins all day ! What's great is that he is taking the opponents' criticism and tearing them apart.
I found religion, saw through it, tore down its walls and threw it away. I found myself, dissected the ego, extinguished the soul and let it go. I found life, climbed its mountains, walked its forests, swam its oceans, and to nature it will be given back.
Actually, 'man' was originally gender-neutral. The prefix added to the word 'man' to turn it into 'male man' survives in the word 'werewolf'. The equivalent female prefix led to the modern word 'wife'. In conclusion, 'werewolf' is sexist, and 'man' isn't.
This is awesome, I wish hispanic speaking people can have access to these lectures.
Thanx for uploading! This is one of the better of the good ones! Love it!
I encourage people to be accountable on the noble task to help Richard Dawkins as many others to establish a strong foundation for the scientific thought among our communities during this century. It is crucial for the future of life on earth.
Religion kills curiosity--our difference from animals
@vinloc3854
7 жыл бұрын
People kill curiosity, religion is made by man. Christ is truth. Not man made.
i am soooo atheist that if you disintegrate me to my cells, each and everyone of them will be atheist individually. I know my comment is out of context but i cant say it outloud in my country cause there will be consequences and they will be dire. So I just wanna go on record; im an atheist...whoaaa, feels good (to be able to and to use the opportunity be honest even it s in cyber world)
@Djorgal
9 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity. What country is it exactly? An islamic one maybe? Also what is your name and address damn infidel?!! Hmm sorry, I got carried.
What do you mean by freezing? I've noticed a lot of youtube videos keep freezing (loading, although the videos is already loaded) and I thought it's just my computer | internet connection.
I vividly recall stopping EVERYTHING we were doing in school during the second semester, this is in 6 - 9 grade junior high/middleschool, Normally having a 7 period day of math english etc., where we would spend two weeks learning what was on the standardized tests. We would be closed up into rooms with instructors for two whole weeks, our homeroom teacher, and would go over the material for a test that lasted three days.
The very process of sequences being duplicated and then variated based on the organism's needs is the very definition of adding information. It starts with a template of what came before, and then changes that sequence creating a new bit of information. Creating new information is what evolution does, it's one of the foundations of biology.
Hmmm. This wont play past 6:20. Anyone else getting this problem?
the biggest fear people have when they think of a world without religion is chaos. its an irrational fear not because lack of religions can guarantee any stabilty in the world. rather its because until now religions didnt contribute anything for peace. on the contrary wars are the product of religions. the biggest misconception is that virtue is the product of religions. no. it's the product of human intelligence just as religion is the product of human intelligence. if you are , by your nature a seeker of truth, you will be a decent human being as a consequences. and if you are logical you will be agnostic. however, you cant be a jew, christian muslim..ect and have these qualities because there is a deep contridiction.
"Atheists have no basis for morality." We know from observation that all human beings have something common to their experience: their wish to be happy and to be free from suffering and the causes of suffering. We also know from observation that all human beings are made up of the same elemental material, and that all of this elemental material has identical origins: ancient stars. This establishes our basic equality and basic commonality in an objective sense. With an objective basis for acknowledging our basic equality, and with an objective basis for acknowledging our basic commonality, we have an objective basis for moral behaviour. Behaviour which deprives other human beings of their happiness is immoral, and behaviour which does not, is not. The problem with deriving a moral code from an invisible ghost in the sky for which there is exactly zero evidence has to do with its inherent lack of objectivity. Since there is no evidence for the existence of an invisible ruler in the sky, we know that its moral edicts originate not from a really-existing ghost but from the imaginations of people who believe in ghosts. Morality which has its origins within the private perceptions of those who believe in magical ghosts is inherently unreliable, and this explains why so many of the most heinous moral crimes in human history were carried out by religious people and institutions. Nothing further needs to be said on this issue.
@world2urnin
9 жыл бұрын
Ryan MacFarlane- A couple of points to consider- Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 Point 1 "With an objective basis for acknowledging our basic equality, and with an objective basis for acknowledging our basic commonality, we have an objective basis for moral behaviour. Behaviour which deprives other human beings of their happiness is immoral, and behaviour which does not, is not." Using your "objective basis" to evaluate behaviors "...which deprives other human beings of their happiness is immoral" would logically have you defending human life of the unborn since we all share this basic commonality from conception to grave. You are ProLife, right? And- Point 2 "...and this explains why so many of the most heinous moral crimes in human history were carried out by religious people and institutions." Your statement here ignores the facts of history. The greatest moral crimes in human history were committed by Atheists. Pol Pot (~ 1.7 million murders), Adolf Hitler (~ 16 million murders), Joseph Stalin (~23 million murders), Mao Zedong (~ 50 million murders), etc...were all atheists that had millions of murders committed in the name of their "belief systems". Murder is a heinous moral crime, right? Were these atheists wrong for committing millions of murders? Where in your paradigm do you account for their actions? The God of the Bible has given us an objective standard by which we live and laws by which all peoples are judged. Regardless of Race… black, brown, red, yellow or white… Regardless of Religion… Jew, Gentile, Atheist, Pagan or Christian….We are all under the same judge and laws. The laws provide objective standards by which we establish and value human life. We protect all human life- old, young, even the unborn… because we know life is sacred. /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}
@haiderdear909
9 жыл бұрын
Yes that fine bcoz religious morals are sanatic conclusions. Thats why we dont respects your baseless moral.
@ryanm7263
8 жыл бұрын
***** _Using your "objective basis" to evaluate behaviors would logically have you defending human life of the unborn since we all share this basic commonality from conception to grave_ No. Deriving our morality from an acknowledgement of our most fundamentally in-common nature and wishes does not lead into a pro-life conclusion. There are two criterion by which our treatment of others has an objective moral basis: 1) That we have common origins and composition, and 2) That we have common experience, i.e., the wish to be happy and not to suffer. Early in its development, an unborn fetus does not possess a nervous system capable of supporting the experience of self-awareness, and as such it is not capable of undergoing experiences like happiness and suffering. Because this is true, unborn fetuses early in their development cannot be evaluated in the same moral terms as other human beings. Those few atheist leaders responsible for great crimes against humanity did not commit their atrocities for atheistic reasons, nor was their lack of religious belief causal to their crimes. If anything, those individuals opposed established religions because their existence interfered with the cult of personality they sought to establish around themselves.
@Doriesep6622
4 жыл бұрын
Morality is all we atheists have.
Ah Dawkins, you are a genius. I want to give him a hug, seriously.
Who did the sub titles, lol.
@Fantasticlist Are you asking ME to answer his question or are you demanding HIS answer (which was edited out of the original video)?
i love all of dawkins videos and the way he explains it... it would be great if the videos have some subtitles... cuz im in mexico,... and some times i want to show them to other people but,... most of my friends dont speak in english... haha... ill keep waiting... =P
@juanriingen
3 жыл бұрын
Picachu, You are not alone, mi Amigo
Crimes cannot be undone. Jail sentences do not erase the effects of the crime, they simply act as a punishment for the criminal and prevent - quite effectively - the criminal committing any more crime whilst in prison.
Hey shotsxxx, Do YOU think it is silly to not look both ways when crossing the road?
« calling them idiots doesn't help » Wouldn't say that. Venting frustration is a very healthy psychological mechanism. Keeps one from becoming unbalanced.
Belief is not proof, it is the acceptance of an idea without evidence.
An hour of Richard Dawkins? GET IN!
Cheers!
Got to work eventually, though even after closing windows and relaoding / refreshing it still kept insisting on starting 5 minutes in, then stopping again at 6.20. Seems to be ok now. Must have been God trying to stop us seeing it :D
I'd hate to abandon ritual, I think that its how we learn music, play the drums, and dance. It is a pattern that helps us get into focus about something in mass. Coping with loss, sharing a union, etc.
Wow, this is epic in so many levels ^^
WE THANK YOU ! :D
12:10 is hilarious! "Science is interesting and if you don't agree you can fuck off." Does anyone know where to find that video?
I greatly admire this man.
@Asilaysheepless
Жыл бұрын
Me too
@mayitodelgado Hispanic speaking people? I am hispanic, I have access to these lectures, and I completely love them. Richard Dawkins is brilliant and I am aware of some of the things hispanic "Catholics" believe in.
@Horathgar42 There is a book called "Bones of contention" which goes into detail about lucy. Also think about it; a set of bones found in Africa which are held up to be the bases for Prehistoric man, when the origin of language, etc is all found in Mesopotamia.
@ananiasacts "Religion works by insinuating itself into a child's psyche before they've developed the cognitive ability to even realize that this is taking place, [etc]." VERY nicely put. I'm going to make a note of that.
Was that Hemant asking the second question?
i have problem with freezing on this video
He loves to talk about him. Because he rocks.
It's from 2007, back then there was still hope...
Agreed. And how come the Ten Commandments don't include things such as "Thou shalt not rape" but DOES include things such as "Thou shalt not worship graven images"?? Priorities!
sonnygll Personally, modern science played a key role in convincing me there is no god. Dawkins comes from a scientific background as opposed to a primarily philosophical view, and science provides tangible evidence for how and why we came to be. It's thanks to him that I'm no longer sitting on the agnostic deist fence. Each of the well-known Atheists has their role to play; each appeals to a different mindset. I'm grateful to all of them for their work and their courage to speak out.
Richard Dawkins is so awesome. I love the way that he always seems happy. He's really passionate about anything about which he speaks.
@Doriesep6622
4 жыл бұрын
He is sooo urbane and polished!
They are both reliable but in different ways.
The spontaneous leaping into existence of the universe, however I find a lot harder to make sense of (I guess this is one reason why you find more physicists than biologists who are religious). That said, as I acknowledged earlier, postulating the existence of a god(s) doesnt answer the problem it makes it worse (ie you have to assume a highly complex being sprang into existence from nothing).
Good point!
Yes perfection can be attained on this earth. It would require everyone to tear down the walls of division such as religion, political ideologies and nations. Very hard to imagine because humanity has the afflictions of greed, aversion and delusion. So all we can hope is that individuals take the time to really observe and studying their own minds. Then as awareness and higher consciousness arises we can take a moment to truly try to change ourselves not someone else.
We dont teach children how to think critically, or how to manage money with basic economics or even have required home economics where we can learn how to cook, sew, clean etc, properly. When I left High school into the real world, I was not prepared for ridiculously simple, basic LIFE necessities. Learning in a dorm room with others just as ignorant should not be the norm for our society. Let alone critical thinking.
You can go to richarddawkinsDOTnet and click on the store icon. It is the first thing that they have for sale.
Not necessarily questions, mostly statements concerning the video you sent. Scroll up and find out.
very good point
@Horathgar42 In what way has science ruled out a Designer and life source? The laws which exist point to a Designer and life source. There was a model a person made which was at a museum, it used gears and spokes to recreate our planetary system. The model was great because it showed how all the planets interacting with each other including their moons. what caught my attention is the model had a designer but the actual Solar system has none?
My statement is still not overturned.
You make interesting points. I absolutely agree with your opinion on religious dogma. Scripture and religion are two separate entities however. What if a creationist found verses within scripture that were in accord with science (and maybe even ahead of science by millenia) would that be fact or faith now?
Yes, and this is unfortunate. I think the best science class I ever took was the History of Science...just explaining where we came from and how we came to these ideas. Totally fascinating and so helpful in learning the concepts.
@aldoacosta758
3 жыл бұрын
0l u gc u
Mr. Dawkins never fails to amuse...
I've been having some heated debates with theists here and there, and I've come to the sad conclusion that no matter how much rationality you throw at them, they will NOT budge... ESPECIALLY creationists and apologists! I give you a LOT of credit Richard, simply for not giving up in the face of SO much ignorance and stubbornness! Even in my few dozen debates, I've grown frustrated with all the sheer ignorance, to the point where I've just given up trying to explain things to these people...
Sorry man i didn't know you asked a question concerning the video. What is your question sir?
I wasn't referring to my survival either, I was referring to the survival of of the less fortunate people and kids in third world countries who die everyday from lack of good water to drink and food.
If I hit you in the face, it is unethical. It causes you a less comfortable existence for a time. If I call it something, it is still unethical, because it still causes you a less comfortable existence for a time. If me hitting you in the face causes me joy, it causes you pain, and me joy, it does not cancel out (both people still feel the effects of the act, they dont dissapear because they're the opposite). Thus, if I imprison someone, in doing so cause joy, it is still unethical.
@Gazdo01 I was stating explicitly "in the examples", thus encompassing *all* the examples I gave you. Not just the Inquisition. Please try to read what's there.
Great vid
@Horathgar42 This we can agree, the debate is essential for truth to win out.
You know what, I kind of agree with that.
The power to change everything is omnipotence, knowing all is omniscience. If you know (using omniscience) HOW you are going to change a future event, you cannot change your mind - which means you're not omnipotenet. If you decide to prove doubters wrong and use your omnipotence to change the future event in a different way from the way you knew you were going to, then you are not omniscient, because you were wrong in the first place. That is why the two are mutually exclusive.
I am so thankful for free will to choose the truth!
@vinloc3854
7 жыл бұрын
What is truth?
@JimbleBass Unfortunately not. Wish I were, but Im not in Austin and haven't the money to donate ATM. I was just giving examples of what some atheist groups do for socialization.
Would you consider secular meditation a science? I do consider it as a science because of the careful analysis involved but I can see where others would argue that it is just a natural process.
Oh to be without Christ how empty life must be. "There is no God beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me and be ye save all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:21a-22 'I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11b "Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Mathew 11:28 The Justice of God was satisfied at Golgotha, Trust Christ alone
@nin8halos- Correction it was George Wald who said " spontanous generation of a lving organisml is impossible. Yet here we are I believe in spontanous generation." The origins of life, Scientific American, vol 190,
Me too, I get all giddy.
@mayitodelgado why wouldn't they have access to it - I found it ;-) and what ar 'hispanic' speaking people? you means - "I wish these lectures were available in Spanish" ;-)
Again, I'm not a philosopher akido - I'm just some bloke, please define your technical terms if you feel that I'm misunderstanding them. Science is not based upon unproveable axioms (unlike some branches of mathematics) - it is based on the actual physical laws that are an actual feature of the universe. This is why we can often apply our theories to make new things - radio, GM foods, aircraft etc... If you really think science doesn't deal with reality - don't get on a plane!
My friend who is a believer started a conversation about the Ark. I said that a pair of the same species would result in inbreeding and death. And he proposed in all seriousness that Atlantis offered cloning technology to archive the DNA of many individuals to reconstruct after the flood. Isn't it brilliant?
@ruecks Do you really think religion doesn't affect other people? And society as a whole? Do you think that it's influence is entirely positive?
Angels worship God because he is their creator and deserves their worship, just as he is our creator and deserves our worship. There is nothing we can offer God for the wonderful gift of life he gave to us for FREE, so the least we can do is say "thank you Lord" and that is what worship is. Why wont he accept worship? He deserves it!!
I would say it is wise to assume you are real and what you can see is real - and therefore it makes sense to take care when crossing the road. We actually do live in a fantasy, the world we percieve with our eyes is a fabulous model that our brains construct for us to navigate around our world.
Funny definition considering I've often used that to describe any religious individual I've had the misfortune of hearing speak
Circular reasoning it may be, but to accept the alternative "If I can see / hear / smell / touch something then it cannot be real" is simply absurd! Look both ways when crossing the road is still good advice. The proof of the existence of the real world is the fact of its existence.
I'm not a philosopher and if it takes a philosopher to doubt the existence of reality, I'm glad that i'm not one! The thought experiment you describe is interesting and at this time, I cannot think of a way to disprove it - neither can you, neither can anyone else - even Dawkins. Maybe you cannot be sure that the real world is real, but it's still worth looking both ways when crossing the road.
@MrGoblinCock Look for the youtube video "A universe from nothing" by Laurence Krauss.
The fact that science consistently yields succesful results and constantly proves itself right is proof enough for me. Of course you cannot actually do an experiment to prove that science is effective because the doing of that particular experiment entails using science in some shape or form Philosophy can be affective, but only when it is backed up by science.
People make remixes all the time, doesn't mean it was a creationist who edited them.
@TomFynn I agree with you completely as long as the approach doesn't involve judging him as though he is part of a religious sect that is not his own. Show them that their source material and what they believe doesn't add up, or even add up with reality in general, is completely alright in my book.
Is the "Thou shalt not covet thy neigbor's ass." a refference to Minchin?
20:00 to 21:30 is my favorite
Just imagine covers of science magazines when we discover teapot orbiting the sun between earth and martian orbit. #mind_on_xkcd
@lollertoaster
10 жыл бұрын
***** lmao ^ω^
@bradgrady7497
10 жыл бұрын
***** The Pot, the Cup, and the Steamy liquid.
@lvgxc10
9 жыл бұрын
I know.... Thor and Isis will love it
@frankmurphyburr3598
8 жыл бұрын
+lollertoaster as a teapot orbiter, I find your comments offensively funny
If you reread my post you'll see that I was talking about the origin of the universe and not the origin of life. Given the immense age and size of out universe combined with the fact that the physics seems very conducive to the existence of complex organised systems, then the spontaneous emergence of life within our universe doesnt challenge my credulity. Continued
I live in the Bible belt of the United States. And it depresses the hell out of me that I have to find solace in videos like this and KZreadrs who feel the same as I do because there's so many people here whose minds are closed off to logic and reason. It's better than nothing though. :p
I think the greatest problem we face in dialogue with various religions, particularly the Judaic ones, is that when they ask us why we do not believe and we respond with a detailed answer, they take offense. This is a failure on the theist's part to recognize our response as just that, a response. It is not an attack. Specifically of the Judaic variety, the worshiper tends to get into some kind of pseudo-romance with his vision of God, and disbelief is misinterpreted as emotional rejection.
megoofychick Russell, actually did analytical philosophy, much like Dennett. So science was used, and it was even then, advanced enough to show there was no gap for god. What Dawkins did different that was really good, was expand on WHY evolution made the argument from design useless. I like all the newer atheist authors and have bought and read their books. I am very glad they are speaking out too. I'll continue.
@DentistD1G Good on ya buddy! I hope more people see the light
Long after we're dead, these people will be in the history books, if all goes as it should.
1 Corinthians1:18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.” 20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
@markgg1 Actually it is the other part of the story of the Gospel which many miss is it is first the Holy Spirit which is knocking on the heart of people, but people resist the Holy spIrit of God which convicts the world of Sin. Many missionaries who work in remote areas find people who already have a knowledge of God. Who sent the missionary to that area? God said he moves heaven and earth for one who seeks him
you dont need to hit a child in the face because he took food, you have to scold the child and make him feel bad for what he did, showing him the wrongness in it, that is reasonable punishment, it does not need to be the application of force. Stealing is stealing whether it be food or a car or a book, stealing is stealing. Whether you teach the adult to precure money legally, it does not still take away the fact that he stole. And everyone knows that you have to work to get money
@Fantasticlist That's like saying "If you quit eating meat, how can you tell me that you ever really liked meat?" Of course I was a Christian. I adhered to my irrationality as though my eternal life depended on it. Because, of course, I thought that it did. But as I said, we've all got to wake up sometime. I began learning more about how the world actually works and as an uncontrollable result, my faith faded away. It doesn't mean I am lying about being Christian. It simply means I woke up.
I ♥ Dawkins. His ability to laugh at the theists that send him hate mail or create those fake videos is awesome and always good for a laugh.
Considering that the Bible has only been printed (and therefore sold) 2 million copies, I'd say that atheism has a pretty damn good start with those statistics he just listed. GO DAWKINS!!!!
Throneofdecay- It should be clear from my first comment that I do not choose to "believe" something that is "likely imaginary". In fact I went so far as to say that I tend towards atheism. The argument that a highly organised organism(s) (gods) simply sprang intro existence and then created the universe, seems very much weaker than saying that simple mass/energy did so. However both seem bazaar to me.